1 00:00:15,316 --> 00:00:22,956 Speaker 1: Pushkin. Hey Eddie here, before we get started, I wanted 2 00:00:22,996 --> 00:00:24,916 Speaker 1: you to know that you can listen to Car Show 3 00:00:24,956 --> 00:00:29,276 Speaker 1: add free by becoming a Pushkin Plus subscriber. You'll also 4 00:00:29,316 --> 00:00:32,796 Speaker 1: get access to detours, bonus episodes of Car Show where 5 00:00:32,836 --> 00:00:37,676 Speaker 1: we go for extended drives, play outtakes, and more fine 6 00:00:37,716 --> 00:00:40,636 Speaker 1: Pushkin Plus on the Car Show page, in Apple Podcasts, 7 00:00:41,156 --> 00:00:46,916 Speaker 1: or at pushkin dot Fm. In some ways, the most 8 00:00:46,956 --> 00:00:50,836 Speaker 1: important cars in the world are our first cars. These 9 00:00:50,876 --> 00:00:53,156 Speaker 1: were the cars that gave us our first real taste 10 00:00:53,156 --> 00:00:56,316 Speaker 1: of freedom, not to mention our first taste of the 11 00:00:56,396 --> 00:01:02,156 Speaker 1: late night Taco Bell drive through. First cars are important 12 00:01:02,236 --> 00:01:04,196 Speaker 1: enough to us here at Car Show that we're going 13 00:01:04,276 --> 00:01:06,196 Speaker 1: to mix it up this week and do a couple 14 00:01:06,236 --> 00:01:09,916 Speaker 1: of interviews with two of our favorite polymaths, Lake Bell 15 00:01:10,036 --> 00:01:15,076 Speaker 1: and Rob Kordry. Lake and Rob are actors, writers, directors, 16 00:01:15,076 --> 00:01:20,036 Speaker 1: and voice artists. To these multi hyphenets, we add car people. 17 00:01:20,676 --> 00:01:22,916 Speaker 1: They're going to tell us about their first cars and 18 00:01:22,996 --> 00:01:27,196 Speaker 1: how formative they were to their lives and careers. I'm 19 00:01:27,276 --> 00:01:31,116 Speaker 1: Eddie Alterman. On this special Hollywood episode of Car Show, 20 00:01:31,516 --> 00:01:35,356 Speaker 1: we delve into the automotive lives of these two committed gearheads. 21 00:01:38,316 --> 00:01:41,516 Speaker 1: First up, is Lake Bell. You might know her as 22 00:01:41,556 --> 00:01:44,836 Speaker 1: Agnes Adler in the movie It's Complicated or as the 23 00:01:44,956 --> 00:01:49,476 Speaker 1: voice of Katrina peanut Butter in BoJack Horsemen. She also 24 00:01:49,516 --> 00:01:53,356 Speaker 1: wrote and directed the film In a World. Lake's car 25 00:01:53,476 --> 00:01:57,276 Speaker 1: enthusiasm runs in the family. She grew up in Florida 26 00:01:57,276 --> 00:02:00,436 Speaker 1: and New York, and her dad, Harvey Siegel, is a 27 00:02:00,476 --> 00:02:03,716 Speaker 1: collector of Shelby Cobras and special Fords like the GT 28 00:02:03,876 --> 00:02:08,636 Speaker 1: forty and the Shelby Mustang KR. In our conversation, Lake 29 00:02:08,676 --> 00:02:11,436 Speaker 1: talks about everything from the car that sparked her obsession 30 00:02:11,516 --> 00:02:16,396 Speaker 1: with Italian medal to finally mastering the manual transmission. But 31 00:02:16,636 --> 00:02:20,676 Speaker 1: first we play my favorite parlor game. Guess that first car. 32 00:02:21,876 --> 00:02:23,876 Speaker 1: Do you mean the first card that I purchased with 33 00:02:23,916 --> 00:02:27,916 Speaker 1: my own money or the car that I was generously 34 00:02:27,996 --> 00:02:30,556 Speaker 1: given from my father the car that you were given 35 00:02:30,596 --> 00:02:33,036 Speaker 1: from your father? Okay? So that tells me something. So 36 00:02:33,796 --> 00:02:35,956 Speaker 1: let me ask you a couple of questions. Did you 37 00:02:36,316 --> 00:02:40,996 Speaker 1: start driving in New York City or in Florida, Florida? Okay? 38 00:02:41,676 --> 00:02:46,756 Speaker 1: Was it domestic or import? Import? And it was your 39 00:02:46,836 --> 00:02:52,836 Speaker 1: dad's car? No alease? Okay, give me three guesses. BMW 40 00:02:52,916 --> 00:02:56,556 Speaker 1: three series convertible, No, sir, to this day, I'm just 41 00:02:56,796 --> 00:02:59,236 Speaker 1: I'm not a convertible person. But you're kind of going 42 00:02:59,236 --> 00:03:02,276 Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. To be honest, Really, you're giving 43 00:03:02,276 --> 00:03:10,196 Speaker 1: Harvey too much credit. So Honda Civic no warmer. Warmer 44 00:03:10,356 --> 00:03:14,556 Speaker 1: in the sense that it's less exotic and less sort 45 00:03:14,556 --> 00:03:19,676 Speaker 1: of rich kitty, but still but little a sprinkle of 46 00:03:20,396 --> 00:03:22,636 Speaker 1: I mean, there was a great privilege in the car 47 00:03:22,676 --> 00:03:26,676 Speaker 1: that I have. It's getting tough. Well, let me let 48 00:03:26,716 --> 00:03:29,356 Speaker 1: me say this. It's I mean, if you're a father 49 00:03:29,796 --> 00:03:32,996 Speaker 1: and you don't want your daughter getting in a in 50 00:03:33,076 --> 00:03:36,156 Speaker 1: a bender, you know, a fender bender or whatnot after 51 00:03:36,236 --> 00:03:40,596 Speaker 1: a bender? What what would you want her to drive? 52 00:03:40,636 --> 00:03:41,996 Speaker 1: Would you want her to be in a in a 53 00:03:42,036 --> 00:03:43,876 Speaker 1: two door? No? Would you want her to be even 54 00:03:43,876 --> 00:03:46,636 Speaker 1: in a sedan? Probably not. If you're really neurotic in 55 00:03:46,676 --> 00:03:49,556 Speaker 1: you're Jewish and you're from New York, you're gonna want 56 00:03:50,036 --> 00:03:54,196 Speaker 1: an suv. You want to put some metal around. Yeah, 57 00:03:54,276 --> 00:03:56,956 Speaker 1: you want her a little higher up? So was it 58 00:03:57,156 --> 00:04:02,236 Speaker 1: a Nissan pathbinder? Closer? See, now you're in the pocket. 59 00:04:02,396 --> 00:04:05,076 Speaker 1: Now you're in the zone. We almost got that one 60 00:04:05,476 --> 00:04:08,276 Speaker 1: floor runner. Okay, there he is got it. Yes, I 61 00:04:08,316 --> 00:04:12,916 Speaker 1: got it. Okay, Forerunner, that's a great choice. He got 62 00:04:12,916 --> 00:04:15,516 Speaker 1: me the Forerunner, and it was boy, it was terrific. 63 00:04:15,676 --> 00:04:19,476 Speaker 1: But I will say there was one kicker about it, 64 00:04:19,556 --> 00:04:24,356 Speaker 1: which is just ironic really, given that it is the Forerunner. 65 00:04:24,956 --> 00:04:30,236 Speaker 1: He got the two wheel drive, didn't mean yeah. But 66 00:04:30,276 --> 00:04:32,076 Speaker 1: then I ended up going to Skidmore for a year. 67 00:04:32,116 --> 00:04:34,356 Speaker 1: And let me tell you something. Upstate New York, I 68 00:04:34,676 --> 00:04:37,076 Speaker 1: bought a lot of kitty litter for the back for 69 00:04:37,116 --> 00:04:39,876 Speaker 1: the trunk. Let me tell you didn't have a cat. 70 00:04:40,196 --> 00:04:44,356 Speaker 1: Didn't have a cat, but you put snow tires on it, right, 71 00:04:44,996 --> 00:04:47,276 Speaker 1: you know what we put There was like a lot 72 00:04:47,276 --> 00:04:50,556 Speaker 1: of talk of putting chains on the tires, which, you know, 73 00:04:50,756 --> 00:04:53,556 Speaker 1: the eighteen year old version of myself I was like, 74 00:04:53,676 --> 00:04:55,596 Speaker 1: I don't know how to I don't even know where 75 00:04:55,636 --> 00:04:57,476 Speaker 1: to begin with that, Like I don't know, like who 76 00:04:57,476 --> 00:05:00,116 Speaker 1: am I gonna go to? I don't want to do it. 77 00:05:00,116 --> 00:05:02,636 Speaker 1: It seems like a big you know, because then you 78 00:05:02,636 --> 00:05:04,236 Speaker 1: would drive into the city and all of a sudden 79 00:05:04,236 --> 00:05:05,796 Speaker 1: you got chains on your tire, and what I'm supposed 80 00:05:05,796 --> 00:05:07,236 Speaker 1: to take them all? Yeah, you just take them off. 81 00:05:07,276 --> 00:05:09,996 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not taking no. So it was it 82 00:05:10,076 --> 00:05:13,836 Speaker 1: was more just like bricks and kitty litter in the back. Smart. 83 00:05:14,316 --> 00:05:17,636 Speaker 1: I was eighteen, listen, I you know, I ended up 84 00:05:17,716 --> 00:05:20,956 Speaker 1: leaving going to England. So I left at nineteen to 85 00:05:20,956 --> 00:05:22,836 Speaker 1: go to England. And that's where I have my first 86 00:05:22,836 --> 00:05:26,676 Speaker 1: car that I actually purchased because I collect I saved 87 00:05:26,756 --> 00:05:30,476 Speaker 1: up some money. I had two thousand dollars. So that's 88 00:05:30,476 --> 00:05:32,836 Speaker 1: going to help you figure out and guess what I 89 00:05:32,876 --> 00:05:36,956 Speaker 1: consider my real first car. Okay, So was this a 90 00:05:36,996 --> 00:05:41,236 Speaker 1: car that you could only get in your own I 91 00:05:41,276 --> 00:05:45,916 Speaker 1: mean no, but the thematic of the UK is heavily 92 00:05:45,916 --> 00:05:49,916 Speaker 1: at large here, okay, So a Mini, yes, sir, nineteen 93 00:05:49,956 --> 00:05:54,476 Speaker 1: eighty seven deg And at the time I didn't even 94 00:05:54,556 --> 00:05:57,756 Speaker 1: drive stick. So I had this like real kind of 95 00:05:58,556 --> 00:06:01,316 Speaker 1: block against driving stick because driving in my family was 96 00:06:01,436 --> 00:06:04,156 Speaker 1: such a thing and like if you're not going to drive, 97 00:06:04,436 --> 00:06:07,596 Speaker 1: you know, how dare you not drive stick? And you know, 98 00:06:07,636 --> 00:06:09,916 Speaker 1: there was just such an onnus on it that I 99 00:06:09,956 --> 00:06:13,036 Speaker 1: was rebelling by saying, I'm going to buy an automatic. 100 00:06:13,556 --> 00:06:17,796 Speaker 1: And if you think of like a nineteen eighty seven 101 00:06:17,836 --> 00:06:22,836 Speaker 1: Austin Mini, that's automatic, I mean that's like a go cart. Yeah, 102 00:06:22,996 --> 00:06:26,356 Speaker 1: that's basically a golf cart, right, and you were in London. 103 00:06:27,196 --> 00:06:30,836 Speaker 1: It's super parkable. That's a big kind of spectrum to 104 00:06:30,916 --> 00:06:33,116 Speaker 1: go from. I know, I know, but I mean in 105 00:06:33,596 --> 00:06:36,276 Speaker 1: the UK, a Mini is like an suv. I mean 106 00:06:36,316 --> 00:06:38,316 Speaker 1: you can fit ten people in there. I know they're 107 00:06:38,436 --> 00:06:42,036 Speaker 1: huge inside kind of Yeah, I mean I really. I 108 00:06:42,076 --> 00:06:44,996 Speaker 1: mean I was nineteen and then twenty twenty one. I 109 00:06:45,236 --> 00:06:48,196 Speaker 1: spent four years in London and that that red Mini 110 00:06:48,356 --> 00:06:52,676 Speaker 1: was like integral to my existence and my lifeline to 111 00:06:52,916 --> 00:06:54,716 Speaker 1: my social life. I mean I was the only one 112 00:06:54,756 --> 00:06:58,356 Speaker 1: with the car, so you know, everyone's like, gonna take 113 00:06:58,476 --> 00:07:02,476 Speaker 1: that call, we'll get in. So do you you were 114 00:07:02,476 --> 00:07:07,076 Speaker 1: like the designated driver always that's sort of unfair. Yeah, 115 00:07:07,116 --> 00:07:09,596 Speaker 1: but it's cool to have wheels, so you know you've 116 00:07:09,596 --> 00:07:13,036 Speaker 1: given your take. Yeah, did you get the knowledge of 117 00:07:13,276 --> 00:07:16,076 Speaker 1: like how to get around London because you know Kevys 118 00:07:16,116 --> 00:07:19,236 Speaker 1: talk about that. Oh yeah we had um, I had 119 00:07:19,316 --> 00:07:21,516 Speaker 1: my eight to Z map. You would just have to 120 00:07:21,516 --> 00:07:24,076 Speaker 1: look up where you're going. So you go in the 121 00:07:24,116 --> 00:07:26,916 Speaker 1: back and you're like, okay, I'm going to Shu you know, 122 00:07:27,116 --> 00:07:31,276 Speaker 1: like Bluvod you know who, and then you go se 123 00:07:31,756 --> 00:07:33,636 Speaker 1: twelve or whatever, and then you have to look it 124 00:07:33,756 --> 00:07:36,476 Speaker 1: up and figure it the fuck out, and then you 125 00:07:36,596 --> 00:07:40,676 Speaker 1: came back to the US. Was the Four Runners still there? No? No, 126 00:07:40,756 --> 00:07:42,676 Speaker 1: We sold the fur Runner and then I moved to 127 00:07:42,796 --> 00:07:45,876 Speaker 1: LA and then I had to again I had to 128 00:07:45,876 --> 00:07:49,076 Speaker 1: borrow money for this one because in in LA. Again, 129 00:07:49,196 --> 00:07:51,396 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I can just you know, sell 130 00:07:51,476 --> 00:07:54,556 Speaker 1: the mini for like seven dollars and then and then 131 00:07:54,796 --> 00:07:56,996 Speaker 1: you know, get a car in LA. But of course 132 00:07:57,156 --> 00:08:01,636 Speaker 1: my dad was like, you'd drive in in LA. You 133 00:08:01,676 --> 00:08:04,076 Speaker 1: can't have a small car, you know. He's like, you 134 00:08:04,116 --> 00:08:07,276 Speaker 1: need a proper SUV. You know, like he had a 135 00:08:07,316 --> 00:08:10,156 Speaker 1: real thing about like kids and su I want to 136 00:08:10,196 --> 00:08:12,756 Speaker 1: talk about your family. I love that imitation of your dad. 137 00:08:13,236 --> 00:08:16,076 Speaker 1: So he's a Brooklyn guy, you know what. He is 138 00:08:16,236 --> 00:08:20,756 Speaker 1: a New York your quintessential New York gentleman jew. So 139 00:08:20,876 --> 00:08:24,516 Speaker 1: he has um. You know, my brother and my sisters 140 00:08:24,516 --> 00:08:28,756 Speaker 1: and I all kind of amp up his plosives and 141 00:08:28,796 --> 00:08:31,396 Speaker 1: whatnot when we do an impression of him, because if 142 00:08:31,396 --> 00:08:34,476 Speaker 1: we didn't, it just wouldn't be as fun. But you know, 143 00:08:34,756 --> 00:08:38,396 Speaker 1: you know the key, you know, you don't want to 144 00:08:39,636 --> 00:08:42,156 Speaker 1: load of the ground. That's how he speaks. And then 145 00:08:42,196 --> 00:08:44,716 Speaker 1: my mom has like a really sort of like the 146 00:08:44,836 --> 00:08:47,156 Speaker 1: opposite of whatever that is. So she has a very 147 00:08:47,156 --> 00:08:50,916 Speaker 1: sort of um, soft spoken, um, you know, sort of 148 00:08:51,236 --> 00:08:56,396 Speaker 1: more quintessentially kind of waspy sound. So they have a 149 00:08:56,916 --> 00:09:02,116 Speaker 1: real vocal cortail. And speaking of sounds, I mean often 150 00:09:02,116 --> 00:09:05,276 Speaker 1: when I think about cars, I grew up with um 151 00:09:05,756 --> 00:09:09,036 Speaker 1: on race car trucks my whole life because of my father, 152 00:09:09,156 --> 00:09:14,276 Speaker 1: other Harvey Seagal, who owned and restored Virginia International Raceway, 153 00:09:14,596 --> 00:09:19,556 Speaker 1: um as well as best you know, yeah you should, 154 00:09:19,716 --> 00:09:23,116 Speaker 1: you should, um, but I'd been going to like Lime 155 00:09:23,236 --> 00:09:25,316 Speaker 1: Rock and you know, the Poconos and you know just 156 00:09:25,756 --> 00:09:29,236 Speaker 1: I mean but really vir and and the New Jersey 157 00:09:29,236 --> 00:09:32,676 Speaker 1: Motorsport Park was also his, and so you know, he 158 00:09:32,716 --> 00:09:37,436 Speaker 1: had been an amateur racer and very serious collector for 159 00:09:37,516 --> 00:09:42,156 Speaker 1: my whole life. So, um, this relationship I had with 160 00:09:42,276 --> 00:09:48,356 Speaker 1: cars really stemmed from you know, the car world was 161 00:09:49,036 --> 00:09:51,796 Speaker 1: the way in to connect with him. In many ways, 162 00:09:52,156 --> 00:09:55,836 Speaker 1: it's just that's his that's like his other children, you know. 163 00:09:55,956 --> 00:09:59,596 Speaker 1: And so there were times where it's like, oh, I 164 00:09:59,636 --> 00:10:03,196 Speaker 1: didn't really know how to access and have a deep 165 00:10:03,236 --> 00:10:05,996 Speaker 1: conversation with him, but he would take me to the 166 00:10:06,116 --> 00:10:08,796 Speaker 1: Javit Center to the auto show and we would walk 167 00:10:08,836 --> 00:10:13,076 Speaker 1: around and those are really important moments, you know, because 168 00:10:13,076 --> 00:10:17,156 Speaker 1: those are like kind of my main connection point. And 169 00:10:18,596 --> 00:10:22,276 Speaker 1: he enjoys telling you know, his children the kind of 170 00:10:22,676 --> 00:10:29,356 Speaker 1: history of certain cars, the great kind of melodramatic stories 171 00:10:29,396 --> 00:10:33,756 Speaker 1: of racers, and and why you know, why Porsche is 172 00:10:33,836 --> 00:10:37,676 Speaker 1: cool and what or why it isn't you know, and 173 00:10:37,716 --> 00:10:41,876 Speaker 1: why he prefers forwards in general. The smells and the 174 00:10:41,996 --> 00:10:48,036 Speaker 1: experiential kind of connection that I have to automotives in 175 00:10:48,116 --> 00:10:52,036 Speaker 1: general is just you know, it comes from this place 176 00:10:52,076 --> 00:10:54,276 Speaker 1: and then now I've taken on its own life, within 177 00:10:54,356 --> 00:10:57,876 Speaker 1: my own sort of experience. I had the same sort 178 00:10:57,876 --> 00:11:00,716 Speaker 1: of experience with my father. I got all these talmudic 179 00:11:00,916 --> 00:11:04,596 Speaker 1: lessons through the car business. You know. He was so 180 00:11:05,076 --> 00:11:08,556 Speaker 1: into cars, and I inherited that from him. But that's 181 00:11:08,556 --> 00:11:11,436 Speaker 1: how he liked taught me about the world. Absolutely. I mean, 182 00:11:11,756 --> 00:11:18,756 Speaker 1: cars are touch points for indelible moments in our life. 183 00:11:19,036 --> 00:11:23,636 Speaker 1: There's a nostalgia and a sort of visceral kind of 184 00:11:24,236 --> 00:11:26,556 Speaker 1: the smells and the sounds and the way the leather 185 00:11:26,636 --> 00:11:29,316 Speaker 1: felt or the way the fabric felt, or whatever it 186 00:11:29,396 --> 00:11:32,036 Speaker 1: is about a car that really reminds you, Oh God. 187 00:11:32,076 --> 00:11:34,516 Speaker 1: That's when I went to Skidmore or oh god, that's 188 00:11:34,516 --> 00:11:37,276 Speaker 1: when I lived right on Creek Road, remember in you know, 189 00:11:37,836 --> 00:11:43,596 Speaker 1: And so there's utility involved. Obviously, there is efficiency involved, 190 00:11:43,596 --> 00:11:46,276 Speaker 1: but then there's also just like god, that's your conduit 191 00:11:46,316 --> 00:11:49,716 Speaker 1: to getting anywhere. You know, it's a privilege, Like not 192 00:11:49,956 --> 00:11:53,436 Speaker 1: everyone gets to have a car, like it still ends 193 00:11:53,476 --> 00:11:57,036 Speaker 1: up being this thing that's that's special. You know, whether 194 00:11:57,116 --> 00:12:00,036 Speaker 1: you're a single mom of five kids, you know, and 195 00:12:00,116 --> 00:12:03,556 Speaker 1: you need that goddamn car, or if you're just like 196 00:12:03,876 --> 00:12:09,116 Speaker 1: I have dreamed of this two four six my entire life, 197 00:12:09,356 --> 00:12:11,596 Speaker 1: you know, and finally made enough money to get it. 198 00:12:14,596 --> 00:12:19,356 Speaker 1: There's this kind of magic of self guided locomotion, right, 199 00:12:19,676 --> 00:12:23,596 Speaker 1: self directed locomotion. There's nothing but when you're like driving 200 00:12:23,636 --> 00:12:27,076 Speaker 1: and in control, it's incredible. It's an incredible feeling of power. 201 00:12:27,676 --> 00:12:33,396 Speaker 1: There is a sense of sacred privacy, the sanctity of 202 00:12:33,436 --> 00:12:37,556 Speaker 1: that cocoon that you've earned that can take cute places. 203 00:12:37,756 --> 00:12:41,356 Speaker 1: I mean, good lord, it's magic, you know. It's That's 204 00:12:41,356 --> 00:12:44,516 Speaker 1: why I say it's a privilege, because we often forget 205 00:12:44,596 --> 00:12:47,716 Speaker 1: and we take it for granted. But I mean, that's 206 00:12:47,716 --> 00:12:51,796 Speaker 1: why there's so many times while you're driving and you're 207 00:12:51,836 --> 00:12:53,916 Speaker 1: in the car and you're listening to a song and 208 00:12:53,956 --> 00:12:58,316 Speaker 1: a song comes on and you're like, I could drive 209 00:12:58,436 --> 00:13:02,236 Speaker 1: to Oregon, you know, and there's something about you know, 210 00:13:02,276 --> 00:13:05,476 Speaker 1: like you're not going to do it, but you could. Yeah, 211 00:13:05,476 --> 00:13:28,036 Speaker 1: exactly the promise of the maybe how do cars inform character? 212 00:13:28,276 --> 00:13:32,676 Speaker 1: Like one of the coolest I thought car character matchups 213 00:13:33,076 --> 00:13:36,556 Speaker 1: was in It's Complicated and Alec Baldwin's character driving that 214 00:13:36,636 --> 00:13:40,196 Speaker 1: blue nine to eleven Caabrio. I'm like, of course, well 215 00:13:40,676 --> 00:13:43,196 Speaker 1: I know, and you know what it's like. For instance, 216 00:13:43,236 --> 00:13:46,396 Speaker 1: there was in a world I had to have. I 217 00:13:46,556 --> 00:13:51,556 Speaker 1: had to have like a certain kind of nineties Corvette 218 00:13:51,636 --> 00:13:55,836 Speaker 1: and it had to be maroon. It had to be maroon, 219 00:13:56,276 --> 00:14:00,516 Speaker 1: like like metallic maroon for my dad in it, played 220 00:14:00,596 --> 00:14:03,836 Speaker 1: by Fred Melman, who is like the king, right, but 221 00:14:03,956 --> 00:14:07,476 Speaker 1: the best And I have a whole scene in there 222 00:14:07,756 --> 00:14:10,876 Speaker 1: where you know, the father who's just not considering his 223 00:14:10,956 --> 00:14:13,996 Speaker 1: daughter at all, Um says, you know, I'll take you there, 224 00:14:13,996 --> 00:14:16,716 Speaker 1: and of course there's no back seat in that model, right, 225 00:14:16,996 --> 00:14:21,316 Speaker 1: So she's like, there's a whole there's story in that 226 00:14:22,236 --> 00:14:25,116 Speaker 1: of like yeah, like if we get into an accident, 227 00:14:25,196 --> 00:14:29,076 Speaker 1: like you're you're cooked, like there's no seed for you 228 00:14:29,196 --> 00:14:33,756 Speaker 1: at this table. Okay, all about him in that sort 229 00:14:33,756 --> 00:14:37,716 Speaker 1: of like maroon car. It's like, no, it's not red. 230 00:14:39,556 --> 00:14:42,916 Speaker 1: Oh it's got a metallic Who have a red corvette? Like, 231 00:14:42,956 --> 00:14:45,676 Speaker 1: you can't have a red corvette. That's totally cliche. I 232 00:14:45,756 --> 00:14:53,036 Speaker 1: have a maroon corvette. Yeah, Burgundy, marooney that maroon love 233 00:14:53,036 --> 00:14:55,276 Speaker 1: it um. So Anyway, those are the kind of things 234 00:14:55,276 --> 00:14:57,636 Speaker 1: where I really enjoy when I'm making a film or 235 00:14:57,796 --> 00:15:01,516 Speaker 1: or you know, creating a character. I do think about 236 00:15:01,516 --> 00:15:05,236 Speaker 1: it a lot. Um. I think it says in the 237 00:15:05,276 --> 00:15:08,116 Speaker 1: same way that the wardrobe says a lot. You know, 238 00:15:08,156 --> 00:15:10,996 Speaker 1: you can you can paint a picture of what someone's 239 00:15:11,596 --> 00:15:15,116 Speaker 1: morning routine might be like and what they're doing off 240 00:15:15,156 --> 00:15:18,196 Speaker 1: camera if you can know what they are dawning or 241 00:15:18,236 --> 00:15:22,076 Speaker 1: what they are driving. What are some of your favorite 242 00:15:22,636 --> 00:15:26,436 Speaker 1: movie cars? Well, I mean, look Scorsese, Good Fellas for 243 00:15:26,516 --> 00:15:31,556 Speaker 1: Me was a really good car film. I mean there's 244 00:15:31,596 --> 00:15:39,476 Speaker 1: just something about those massive body U sixties seventies caddies, 245 00:15:39,716 --> 00:15:42,676 Speaker 1: the El Dorados and the ber Ritzes and the you know, 246 00:15:42,876 --> 00:15:46,676 Speaker 1: there's such balls that like to take up that much 247 00:15:46,716 --> 00:15:51,476 Speaker 1: space for two doors. You know, you're like like tiny inside, 248 00:15:51,796 --> 00:15:55,636 Speaker 1: huge on the outside. Yeah, Like I'm taking up some space, 249 00:15:55,836 --> 00:15:58,316 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's just a little 250 00:15:58,716 --> 00:16:02,156 Speaker 1: but it's it's it's perfection. It's so gradyos right, Like 251 00:16:02,236 --> 00:16:05,356 Speaker 1: remember in that scene and she's like, oh, I thought 252 00:16:05,356 --> 00:16:08,556 Speaker 1: that you know, these the wives would be so fancy. 253 00:16:09,116 --> 00:16:12,316 Speaker 1: You were all like wearing those rayon blands. That's when 254 00:16:12,356 --> 00:16:15,756 Speaker 1: those cars were. They were not like europeanngts. Yeah, and 255 00:16:15,916 --> 00:16:19,156 Speaker 1: which I really and yet I understand and see the 256 00:16:19,156 --> 00:16:22,596 Speaker 1: appeal in it. I mean I have looked into purchasing one, 257 00:16:23,476 --> 00:16:26,236 Speaker 1: but um, you know, I wouldn't kick one of those 258 00:16:26,276 --> 00:16:29,476 Speaker 1: out of bed, but um, I you know, because also 259 00:16:29,516 --> 00:16:35,116 Speaker 1: there is something so unbelievably sort of whimsical and wacky 260 00:16:35,276 --> 00:16:37,636 Speaker 1: about the color schemes they had in that day. It's 261 00:16:37,676 --> 00:16:43,316 Speaker 1: like all white on white and then bright cherry red interior, 262 00:16:43,516 --> 00:16:46,996 Speaker 1: and it's like that was just yeah, that's factory you know, 263 00:16:47,156 --> 00:16:52,396 Speaker 1: Like I love it. I love it. It's got such 264 00:16:52,676 --> 00:16:56,836 Speaker 1: um personality. And now it's like, uh, what kind of 265 00:16:56,836 --> 00:16:59,876 Speaker 1: gray do you want? So when you were growing up, 266 00:16:59,916 --> 00:17:02,596 Speaker 1: did did your dad teach you how to drive on 267 00:17:02,636 --> 00:17:07,636 Speaker 1: the track? So I was terrified of speed. I'm still 268 00:17:07,676 --> 00:17:11,756 Speaker 1: not a massive speed demon. I'm more interested in the 269 00:17:11,916 --> 00:17:15,556 Speaker 1: kind of tetris driving, I call it, which is like 270 00:17:15,636 --> 00:17:18,276 Speaker 1: city driving where it's like, oh, this person going over there, Okay, 271 00:17:18,316 --> 00:17:20,196 Speaker 1: I'll go over there. You know, it's like oh, I 272 00:17:20,316 --> 00:17:22,076 Speaker 1: see you, I see you. Okay, you're up my ass Orr. 273 00:17:22,076 --> 00:17:24,676 Speaker 1: I watched this. You know, it's like I think I 274 00:17:24,836 --> 00:17:28,876 Speaker 1: probably would be more interested in like rally driving, you know. Um, 275 00:17:28,996 --> 00:17:33,916 Speaker 1: but that said, um, my father did teach me to 276 00:17:34,116 --> 00:17:37,556 Speaker 1: drive on a KR five hundred, so King of the 277 00:17:37,596 --> 00:17:41,596 Speaker 1: Road five hundred. Yeah. He's a big Shelby Cober guy. Yeah, 278 00:17:41,636 --> 00:17:45,916 Speaker 1: and you know, my relationship was good with him. But 279 00:17:46,036 --> 00:17:48,316 Speaker 1: I mean that's a lot because remember I had in 280 00:17:48,316 --> 00:17:51,756 Speaker 1: the whole like hang up about manual when I was 281 00:17:51,756 --> 00:17:53,876 Speaker 1: a kid, and so I was just like, oh shit, 282 00:17:54,236 --> 00:17:56,476 Speaker 1: like you know, he's I'm just gonna fucking fuck this 283 00:17:56,516 --> 00:17:58,516 Speaker 1: car up. Who was it a test? You think? Like 284 00:17:58,676 --> 00:18:02,436 Speaker 1: he was saying, like, honestly, this is it's cars is 285 00:18:02,436 --> 00:18:05,156 Speaker 1: where he shines, right, So like he really was like 286 00:18:05,196 --> 00:18:07,396 Speaker 1: all right, kid, you know, like get in there and 287 00:18:07,676 --> 00:18:08,916 Speaker 1: let's see what we can do. When we were out 288 00:18:08,916 --> 00:18:11,956 Speaker 1: in the in New Jersey at our country house and 289 00:18:12,596 --> 00:18:15,916 Speaker 1: that's where his like uh mechanics live and where we 290 00:18:15,996 --> 00:18:19,876 Speaker 1: have a big garage of toys and we were on 291 00:18:19,916 --> 00:18:23,356 Speaker 1: like a gravel road and we were in the KR 292 00:18:23,756 --> 00:18:25,916 Speaker 1: and he's like, go ahead, give it a go. And 293 00:18:25,916 --> 00:18:31,396 Speaker 1: I was like throwing it in first and then you know, 294 00:18:31,476 --> 00:18:36,836 Speaker 1: just like fourth, just like such tentative clutch touching, like 295 00:18:36,996 --> 00:18:40,596 Speaker 1: not oh got stalling, you know. But then of course 296 00:18:40,876 --> 00:18:43,276 Speaker 1: it's like once you get it into first, it's like 297 00:18:43,316 --> 00:18:45,436 Speaker 1: the torque on the thing is like insane. You could 298 00:18:45,436 --> 00:18:47,876 Speaker 1: throw it in third and you're fine, you know, like, 299 00:18:49,556 --> 00:18:52,516 Speaker 1: so explain what the KR is. You're like in a 300 00:18:52,716 --> 00:18:57,156 Speaker 1: Mustang like beast basically, and it's like, I mean, it's 301 00:18:57,196 --> 00:18:59,876 Speaker 1: called King of the Road. So I think you know, 302 00:18:59,916 --> 00:19:01,836 Speaker 1: when you're coming out with balls of steel like that, 303 00:19:01,956 --> 00:19:04,596 Speaker 1: I think you understand exactly what we're dealing with. You know, 304 00:19:04,716 --> 00:19:07,716 Speaker 1: it was complicated sometimes where you know, it felt like 305 00:19:07,996 --> 00:19:11,676 Speaker 1: there was and onus, as I said, on manual shift 306 00:19:11,716 --> 00:19:13,356 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And I would talk to my 307 00:19:13,396 --> 00:19:16,036 Speaker 1: brother about it, who did race, and I'd be like, 308 00:19:16,076 --> 00:19:18,436 Speaker 1: are you I mean, I just feel like I don't know. 309 00:19:18,876 --> 00:19:21,876 Speaker 1: He's like, you can do it. Like kids in fucking 310 00:19:22,036 --> 00:19:26,076 Speaker 1: rural whatever driving stick you know, they're like fourteen year 311 00:19:26,076 --> 00:19:30,436 Speaker 1: olds driving stick trucks. Everywhere, you know, to tend to farms, 312 00:19:30,476 --> 00:19:34,196 Speaker 1: like why are you making this so neurotic? And so eventually, 313 00:19:34,396 --> 00:19:37,916 Speaker 1: when I was a big kid and grown up, I 314 00:19:38,116 --> 00:19:41,556 Speaker 1: found a mini, secondhand mini that had all this, like, um, 315 00:19:42,076 --> 00:19:45,236 Speaker 1: it was a Cooper that had a bunch of aftermarket 316 00:19:45,236 --> 00:19:47,676 Speaker 1: shit on it and it was lowered and I was like, 317 00:19:47,796 --> 00:19:49,876 Speaker 1: but it's a mini, Like why is it lowered? They're like, 318 00:19:49,916 --> 00:19:52,396 Speaker 1: I don't know. The guy, some guy from Devo owned it. 319 00:19:52,476 --> 00:19:56,196 Speaker 1: I was like really, yeah, it was really cool, I know. 320 00:19:56,236 --> 00:19:57,876 Speaker 1: So immediately I was like, well, yeah, I need to 321 00:19:57,916 --> 00:20:02,716 Speaker 1: buy this. So um. I went to this dealer in Lakenyata, 322 00:20:03,076 --> 00:20:06,036 Speaker 1: like it was really far from my house, and I 323 00:20:06,076 --> 00:20:09,956 Speaker 1: took a cab there and I fucking and got there, 324 00:20:10,236 --> 00:20:13,876 Speaker 1: signed all the paperwork, and the guy gave me the 325 00:20:13,956 --> 00:20:17,476 Speaker 1: keys and I said, listen, I don't fully know how 326 00:20:17,516 --> 00:20:19,716 Speaker 1: to drive manual. I've only done it once on a 327 00:20:19,796 --> 00:20:24,756 Speaker 1: KR and and he's like like not at all. And 328 00:20:24,796 --> 00:20:28,076 Speaker 1: I was like, well, could you just give me like 329 00:20:28,116 --> 00:20:31,996 Speaker 1: a parking lot tutorial, you know, and he was like yeah, okay. 330 00:20:32,356 --> 00:20:34,436 Speaker 1: So then we're just in the parking lot with this 331 00:20:34,556 --> 00:20:38,956 Speaker 1: random guy and we just you know, he gave me 332 00:20:38,996 --> 00:20:42,876 Speaker 1: some hot tips and I with because it wasn't like 333 00:20:42,956 --> 00:20:45,676 Speaker 1: the onus of my cool driving dad. I just was 334 00:20:45,716 --> 00:20:48,356 Speaker 1: like I felt more comfortable in a way, you know, 335 00:20:48,756 --> 00:20:51,276 Speaker 1: to just do it. And I drove it off and 336 00:20:51,316 --> 00:20:54,556 Speaker 1: I drove got right on the highway and went home 337 00:20:54,596 --> 00:20:57,036 Speaker 1: and I just thought, oh my god. I literally talking 338 00:20:57,076 --> 00:20:59,916 Speaker 1: to myself, I was like, Okay, at the RP, I'm now, 339 00:20:59,996 --> 00:21:02,436 Speaker 1: you know. And so that's that became my Mini for 340 00:21:02,516 --> 00:21:05,076 Speaker 1: many many years, you know. And so because I had 341 00:21:05,116 --> 00:21:09,556 Speaker 1: this this connection to the Mini, because it was my car, 342 00:21:09,556 --> 00:21:12,196 Speaker 1: and because it was like, god, my formative years in England, 343 00:21:12,276 --> 00:21:16,196 Speaker 1: like you know, those are the years like nineteen twenty two, 344 00:21:16,276 --> 00:21:19,676 Speaker 1: you know, like that's big deal. So to have it 345 00:21:19,716 --> 00:21:22,676 Speaker 1: again at like twenty six or whatever, you know, one 346 00:21:22,716 --> 00:21:24,796 Speaker 1: that I earned because I was like on TV shows 347 00:21:24,796 --> 00:21:26,836 Speaker 1: and I could buy a car now and and it's 348 00:21:26,836 --> 00:21:28,756 Speaker 1: going to be a stick damn it. You know. It's 349 00:21:28,796 --> 00:21:33,156 Speaker 1: like it was a real kind of moment for me. See, 350 00:21:33,316 --> 00:21:36,516 Speaker 1: I made it. I made it. I got my fucking 351 00:21:36,916 --> 00:21:40,676 Speaker 1: lowered Mini that hits on like every parking lot I 352 00:21:40,676 --> 00:21:44,476 Speaker 1: went into would be like scrash, you know. But it's 353 00:21:44,516 --> 00:21:47,116 Speaker 1: also like the antithesis of like a Harvey car. It's 354 00:21:47,116 --> 00:21:50,756 Speaker 1: not like a big boy for it exactly. It was 355 00:21:50,796 --> 00:21:54,836 Speaker 1: like I had to define my own automotive journey. So 356 00:21:55,316 --> 00:21:58,356 Speaker 1: what was sort of like your spark car? You know 357 00:21:58,396 --> 00:22:01,316 Speaker 1: how Burgers talk about having a spark bird, like the 358 00:22:01,356 --> 00:22:03,316 Speaker 1: first bird that they like fell in love with and 359 00:22:03,596 --> 00:22:06,356 Speaker 1: got them into it. Is there one for you? Yeah? 360 00:22:06,436 --> 00:22:09,436 Speaker 1: I mean I got a lot of spark cars. Um. 361 00:22:09,556 --> 00:22:13,716 Speaker 1: You know I when I first saw a Lamborghini Mura, 362 00:22:14,276 --> 00:22:20,636 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sorry what I just was like, 363 00:22:22,276 --> 00:22:26,236 Speaker 1: am I am I dating that car? Like? Did he? 364 00:22:26,676 --> 00:22:29,276 Speaker 1: Is that car throwing me rhythm right now? Like? You know, 365 00:22:29,356 --> 00:22:33,116 Speaker 1: I just just like what is happening to me? M 366 00:22:35,636 --> 00:22:40,196 Speaker 1: And there was something about the Italian cars of that era, 367 00:22:40,276 --> 00:22:44,676 Speaker 1: the seventies, um kind of shark cars I call them, 368 00:22:44,676 --> 00:22:47,756 Speaker 1: where they're just they just you know, they're dangerous, but 369 00:22:47,836 --> 00:22:51,436 Speaker 1: you love them and you're intrigued by them. Um and 370 00:22:51,636 --> 00:22:53,716 Speaker 1: they probably break down a lot. I don't know, but 371 00:22:54,116 --> 00:22:56,916 Speaker 1: you know it's like the detO, Mazzo and the you 372 00:22:56,956 --> 00:23:01,956 Speaker 1: know the kind of these these beautiful, um, very sexy 373 00:23:02,596 --> 00:23:07,036 Speaker 1: uh Italian you know, I love Italian culture. So for me, 374 00:23:07,076 --> 00:23:10,636 Speaker 1: I think that really sold it even harder to me 375 00:23:10,756 --> 00:23:13,436 Speaker 1: I was like, so then I started learning Italian just 376 00:23:13,436 --> 00:23:15,436 Speaker 1: so that, you know, one day. But I also love 377 00:23:15,476 --> 00:23:20,196 Speaker 1: the the original. I saw them on the track and 378 00:23:20,236 --> 00:23:24,396 Speaker 1: they were so damn cute and all with such great 379 00:23:24,436 --> 00:23:27,836 Speaker 1: personality and senses of humor. I was like, I can 380 00:23:27,876 --> 00:23:30,756 Speaker 1: get into this. So just to go back to it 381 00:23:30,796 --> 00:23:32,396 Speaker 1: was like, there's a sense of humor to the Mini, 382 00:23:32,476 --> 00:23:34,676 Speaker 1: So I think that's what I was gravitating too. I 383 00:23:34,716 --> 00:23:38,476 Speaker 1: wasn't like, oh, I want to be you know, sexy, 384 00:23:39,116 --> 00:23:41,516 Speaker 1: you know, badass girl. Yet I just wasn't there. I 385 00:23:41,596 --> 00:23:44,236 Speaker 1: was like, I'm still a kid in some ways, and 386 00:23:44,276 --> 00:23:47,156 Speaker 1: I just think this is cute. And then the Mirra 387 00:23:47,596 --> 00:23:49,796 Speaker 1: was just like, wow, I'm going to be an adult 388 00:23:49,836 --> 00:23:54,196 Speaker 1: one day, That's what I said. Really interesting polls, right, 389 00:23:54,316 --> 00:23:57,556 Speaker 1: you know, like I know, culture. And then of course 390 00:23:57,556 --> 00:24:01,196 Speaker 1: it was like the Pantera, you know, the shapes were 391 00:24:01,636 --> 00:24:05,876 Speaker 1: were were appealing, you know, and so impractical, and there's 392 00:24:05,916 --> 00:24:10,116 Speaker 1: you know, killed Bill um. Oh yeah, Bill drives a mangusta. 393 00:24:10,236 --> 00:24:13,636 Speaker 1: He tries to. Yeah, the mangusta is amazing, just the wheels, 394 00:24:13,676 --> 00:24:15,836 Speaker 1: the way they like they're punched into the body and 395 00:24:15,876 --> 00:24:21,916 Speaker 1: they're just like, oh, just oozing. Just I mean, I yeah, 396 00:24:22,516 --> 00:24:25,356 Speaker 1: just like this is all kinds of wrong, and give 397 00:24:25,396 --> 00:24:28,476 Speaker 1: me the case, like the worst car to drive, so 398 00:24:28,676 --> 00:24:35,756 Speaker 1: unreliable that okay, light me around three dream cars. Well 399 00:24:36,076 --> 00:24:38,316 Speaker 1: you got me onto the Mangusta. So let's do a 400 00:24:38,316 --> 00:24:40,596 Speaker 1: little Mangousta. Let's get a two four six in there, 401 00:24:40,796 --> 00:24:45,676 Speaker 1: and then I'd like a Pontiac Transam. You would with 402 00:24:45,716 --> 00:24:50,436 Speaker 1: the screaming Chicken. Yeah, absolutely, I listen. I like a 403 00:24:50,516 --> 00:24:55,836 Speaker 1: car with a sense of humor and with a whole 404 00:24:55,916 --> 00:24:58,356 Speaker 1: like I could build a whole character around it, you know, 405 00:24:58,636 --> 00:25:02,316 Speaker 1: smoking in the Bandit, Yeah, smoking in the bandit. Yeah. 406 00:25:02,356 --> 00:25:07,636 Speaker 1: If anyone has a Pontiac Transam with the fucking bird 407 00:25:07,716 --> 00:25:11,956 Speaker 1: and all, call me. My friend Ilana who writes for 408 00:25:12,036 --> 00:25:16,316 Speaker 1: Current Driver. She's got one. It's brown. Oh I love brown, 409 00:25:17,356 --> 00:25:22,476 Speaker 1: so sick. Yeah, I mean listen, I gotta talk to Ilana. 410 00:25:22,316 --> 00:25:37,116 Speaker 1: Ye take care of it. Next up Lake's friend and 411 00:25:37,196 --> 00:25:40,876 Speaker 1: now mine, Rob Cordry. You probably know Rob from The 412 00:25:40,956 --> 00:25:44,196 Speaker 1: Daily Show with John Stewart, where his stand up segments 413 00:25:44,316 --> 00:25:48,196 Speaker 1: bristled with manic energy, or from Hot Tub Time Machine, 414 00:25:48,756 --> 00:25:51,116 Speaker 1: which is maybe the best movie title this side of 415 00:25:51,156 --> 00:25:54,796 Speaker 1: Snakes on a plane. He's brought his ink black comedy 416 00:25:54,836 --> 00:25:57,876 Speaker 1: to shows like Ballers with the Rock and now the 417 00:25:57,956 --> 00:26:01,756 Speaker 1: latest American iteration of Top Gear with Dak Shephard and 418 00:26:01,916 --> 00:26:07,356 Speaker 1: Jethro Bobbingdon. Their new season launches July. First, we spoke 419 00:26:07,396 --> 00:26:11,236 Speaker 1: with Rob about his first car and those thereafter. Why 420 00:26:11,276 --> 00:26:13,996 Speaker 1: does the trans am always keep coming up? Thank you 421 00:26:13,996 --> 00:26:16,876 Speaker 1: for being here. You're one of my favorite closet car geek. 422 00:26:16,956 --> 00:26:20,796 Speaker 1: But now you've you've outed yourself with your Top year experience. Yeah, 423 00:26:20,876 --> 00:26:24,916 Speaker 1: I've finally come out. I've had the courage. You know. 424 00:26:24,996 --> 00:26:27,756 Speaker 1: All my friends are like, what are you talking about. 425 00:26:27,876 --> 00:26:30,276 Speaker 1: You're not a car guy. And I was like, I 426 00:26:30,396 --> 00:26:33,596 Speaker 1: met you in New York. Like, I lived in New 427 00:26:33,676 --> 00:26:36,716 Speaker 1: York for twelve years and I kind of dropped the 428 00:26:36,756 --> 00:26:40,516 Speaker 1: whole car thing because there's no need for it, and 429 00:26:41,036 --> 00:26:42,556 Speaker 1: I don't know, I just kind of lost the fire. 430 00:26:42,596 --> 00:26:46,036 Speaker 1: But then when I moved to La it's it's, you know, 431 00:26:46,236 --> 00:26:49,676 Speaker 1: fast to rekindle. Oh yeah, it's a car show every 432 00:26:49,756 --> 00:26:53,716 Speaker 1: day in LA. But yeah, yeah, I admire your bravery. 433 00:26:54,116 --> 00:26:57,836 Speaker 1: My dentist invited me to his cars and coffee. Everybody's 434 00:26:57,876 --> 00:27:03,396 Speaker 1: got a car shown you. That's awesome. Um So I 435 00:27:03,476 --> 00:27:08,116 Speaker 1: want to take you back to the beginning. Okay, I 436 00:27:08,316 --> 00:27:11,796 Speaker 1: googled this, so it was no you know process of 437 00:27:12,316 --> 00:27:15,196 Speaker 1: you know, divination. I just figured I should do a 438 00:27:15,196 --> 00:27:18,396 Speaker 1: little research and figure out what your first car was. Um, 439 00:27:18,716 --> 00:27:24,756 Speaker 1: it was a nineteen seventy five Ford Pinto wagon white 440 00:27:25,036 --> 00:27:30,076 Speaker 1: with the woody walls. M A right piece of shit. 441 00:27:31,716 --> 00:27:33,596 Speaker 1: And now this this is a car that had a 442 00:27:33,636 --> 00:27:38,316 Speaker 1: reputation for exploding if a bird so much as shit 443 00:27:38,436 --> 00:27:40,596 Speaker 1: on it. Right, Oh yeah, you will. You know what 444 00:27:40,636 --> 00:27:42,796 Speaker 1: I was fond of saying, because I loved that car 445 00:27:43,116 --> 00:27:45,516 Speaker 1: when I had it, right, like it was my first car. 446 00:27:45,556 --> 00:27:50,836 Speaker 1: I got it for five bucks, you know, um five bucks, 447 00:27:50,876 --> 00:27:53,436 Speaker 1: five bucks from this old man who just used to 448 00:27:53,516 --> 00:27:56,756 Speaker 1: drive it to the dump and he just you know 449 00:27:56,796 --> 00:27:59,716 Speaker 1: how like you need a bill of sale. Yeah, well 450 00:27:59,716 --> 00:28:02,956 Speaker 1: he actually collected the five bucks that usually you just 451 00:28:02,996 --> 00:28:05,996 Speaker 1: write down, but he was really by the book, so 452 00:28:06,396 --> 00:28:10,556 Speaker 1: he was like and five dollars please. So I actually 453 00:28:10,636 --> 00:28:13,796 Speaker 1: bought bought it for five bucks. And yeah that it 454 00:28:13,876 --> 00:28:18,796 Speaker 1: wasn't the wagons apparently that were famous for exploding. And 455 00:28:18,836 --> 00:28:21,036 Speaker 1: you know, I did a piece on this. It hasn't 456 00:28:21,076 --> 00:28:24,756 Speaker 1: aired yet, it's going to be in our third season. Um, 457 00:28:24,836 --> 00:28:29,276 Speaker 1: about the Ford Pinto and its tendency to explode, and 458 00:28:29,316 --> 00:28:32,076 Speaker 1: it's sort of a tongue in cheek piece, but it 459 00:28:32,156 --> 00:28:37,836 Speaker 1: was greatly exaggerated. To say the least. The American cars 460 00:28:37,876 --> 00:28:41,956 Speaker 1: were losing at that point. You know, all the great 461 00:28:42,036 --> 00:28:46,836 Speaker 1: muscle cars were sort of fading away, and it was 462 00:28:46,876 --> 00:28:50,476 Speaker 1: all being smogged out of existing. Like yeah, powers being 463 00:28:50,556 --> 00:28:53,076 Speaker 1: choked down, and you had like the trans Answer making 464 00:28:53,636 --> 00:28:57,396 Speaker 1: ten horse power and had you know good. I drove 465 00:28:57,436 --> 00:29:00,676 Speaker 1: one of those, man, I drove on I drove top gear, 466 00:29:00,796 --> 00:29:04,596 Speaker 1: like nineteen seventy eight, like the Smokey and the Bandit 467 00:29:04,716 --> 00:29:08,756 Speaker 1: carcam What a piece of shit. I mean, it was 468 00:29:08,796 --> 00:29:12,796 Speaker 1: a gorgeous, museum quality car. The guy had done beautiful 469 00:29:12,836 --> 00:29:15,076 Speaker 1: work on it, but he was like, yeah, trying not 470 00:29:15,116 --> 00:29:19,196 Speaker 1: to take it above fifty five it'll overheat. It just 471 00:29:19,196 --> 00:29:22,076 Speaker 1: spent the whole day overeating. Yeah, I mean, the best 472 00:29:22,156 --> 00:29:24,956 Speaker 1: one of those in the world is still an unmitigated 473 00:29:25,036 --> 00:29:28,356 Speaker 1: piece of crap. Yeah, it's too bad. It's too bad. 474 00:29:28,676 --> 00:29:31,316 Speaker 1: But I want to talk more about that Pinto because like, 475 00:29:31,476 --> 00:29:35,796 Speaker 1: do you have any memorable adventures Oh yeah in that Yeah. 476 00:29:35,836 --> 00:29:39,316 Speaker 1: So I loved that car more than anything I would 477 00:29:39,316 --> 00:29:44,316 Speaker 1: go into, you know whatever. The East Coast equivalent of 478 00:29:44,356 --> 00:29:46,916 Speaker 1: an O'Reilly's is and try and like, what am I 479 00:29:46,916 --> 00:29:48,996 Speaker 1: going to do to this car? And there's nothing. I 480 00:29:48,996 --> 00:29:50,756 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm doing in a car. I had 481 00:29:50,836 --> 00:29:53,916 Speaker 1: no idea I'd end up getting an air freshener or something. 482 00:29:53,956 --> 00:29:56,916 Speaker 1: And I had a girlfriend at the time. I was 483 00:29:57,396 --> 00:29:59,756 Speaker 1: very much in love. She was like two years older 484 00:29:59,756 --> 00:30:03,436 Speaker 1: than me. She was in college, you know. And and 485 00:30:03,516 --> 00:30:05,156 Speaker 1: I used to take her out in my car and 486 00:30:05,156 --> 00:30:09,556 Speaker 1: it was a wagon. And it came that I was 487 00:30:09,796 --> 00:30:13,276 Speaker 1: the guy, the old older than the dirt man. This 488 00:30:13,316 --> 00:30:15,596 Speaker 1: guy could barely walk. And he was like, and if 489 00:30:15,596 --> 00:30:18,196 Speaker 1: you notice here in the bed we've got, um, you 490 00:30:18,316 --> 00:30:21,076 Speaker 1: gotta left a pillow and a blanket there for you 491 00:30:21,196 --> 00:30:24,036 Speaker 1: in case you want to take a nap while you're driving. 492 00:30:25,836 --> 00:30:29,596 Speaker 1: So so yeah, I used to park with my girlfriend 493 00:30:29,596 --> 00:30:34,196 Speaker 1: in the cemetery built only guy that had a pillow 494 00:30:34,196 --> 00:30:36,876 Speaker 1: in the back of his car, that's for sure. Um 495 00:30:36,956 --> 00:30:43,996 Speaker 1: an old man's pillow. And it used to didn't last. No, 496 00:30:44,156 --> 00:30:47,756 Speaker 1: she cheated on me. She cheated on me. Now forget now, 497 00:30:47,836 --> 00:30:50,036 Speaker 1: she probably cheated on me with somebody else's car. Really, 498 00:30:50,636 --> 00:30:53,036 Speaker 1: it was probably that car that killed it because the 499 00:30:53,076 --> 00:30:58,036 Speaker 1: floorboard on the passenger seat was completely rusted out. So 500 00:30:58,276 --> 00:31:01,116 Speaker 1: every time we went over a puddle, which in Boston 501 00:31:01,676 --> 00:31:06,036 Speaker 1: was significant, like they were everywhere, she would get soaked. 502 00:31:07,516 --> 00:31:11,076 Speaker 1: She would to like just put her feet up on 503 00:31:11,156 --> 00:31:16,156 Speaker 1: the dashboard. What we went over a puddle? And I 504 00:31:16,156 --> 00:31:19,196 Speaker 1: would like to drive by my old house growing up 505 00:31:19,276 --> 00:31:22,876 Speaker 1: right now and see if they've paved over the holes 506 00:31:22,996 --> 00:31:27,316 Speaker 1: that car left in the driveway, because apparently oil is 507 00:31:27,356 --> 00:31:31,556 Speaker 1: a corrosive. I had no idea there were you know, 508 00:31:31,836 --> 00:31:35,676 Speaker 1: two inch deep holes and that, and I had that 509 00:31:35,716 --> 00:31:41,156 Speaker 1: car for maybe two years, burned a hole right in there. Amazing, yeah, 510 00:31:41,196 --> 00:31:45,076 Speaker 1: and left its mark. Do you have like sort of 511 00:31:45,076 --> 00:31:49,636 Speaker 1: memorable associations with moments in your life and certain cars? 512 00:31:49,916 --> 00:31:54,516 Speaker 1: Those cars were long before I even realized that acting 513 00:31:55,676 --> 00:31:59,236 Speaker 1: was a job that people could do. You know, growing 514 00:31:59,316 --> 00:32:04,396 Speaker 1: up in Weymouth, Massachusetts, it's like ten minutes fifteen minutes 515 00:32:04,396 --> 00:32:09,796 Speaker 1: south of Boston, there wasn't a job that people Nobody 516 00:32:10,076 --> 00:32:14,796 Speaker 1: ever left Weymouth and let alone became you know, you know, 517 00:32:14,876 --> 00:32:18,996 Speaker 1: became movie actors or TV actors. So it took a 518 00:32:19,076 --> 00:32:21,716 Speaker 1: long time for me to realize that was an actual goal. 519 00:32:22,276 --> 00:32:24,916 Speaker 1: So I would say it would have to be if 520 00:32:24,956 --> 00:32:27,116 Speaker 1: I had any car connection to my career, it would 521 00:32:27,156 --> 00:32:30,916 Speaker 1: be that my wife and I when we were living 522 00:32:30,916 --> 00:32:34,076 Speaker 1: in New York. I was on the Daily Show and 523 00:32:34,796 --> 00:32:38,636 Speaker 1: I inherited her father had died, and I we inherited 524 00:32:38,716 --> 00:32:46,436 Speaker 1: a what wasn't ninety four Corolla five speed? Another piece 525 00:32:46,476 --> 00:32:48,996 Speaker 1: of crap in a long line of crappy cars I've had, 526 00:32:49,036 --> 00:32:53,796 Speaker 1: but that car. Man. I lived in Brooklyn. The Daily 527 00:32:53,836 --> 00:32:58,236 Speaker 1: Show was on like fifty fifth and by the water, 528 00:32:58,436 --> 00:33:00,196 Speaker 1: like all the way as far as you can get 529 00:33:00,236 --> 00:33:03,636 Speaker 1: away from Brooklyn, and I used to race myself every 530 00:33:03,676 --> 00:33:07,676 Speaker 1: single day and if I caught the lights right, I 531 00:33:07,716 --> 00:33:09,596 Speaker 1: can make it home. I think I may home once 532 00:33:09,596 --> 00:33:14,196 Speaker 1: in twelve minutes and my friend Jim. My friend Jim 533 00:33:14,276 --> 00:33:16,076 Speaker 1: said Hey, can I get a ride home with you? 534 00:33:16,156 --> 00:33:17,756 Speaker 1: He was just like, live right down the block. And 535 00:33:17,796 --> 00:33:23,156 Speaker 1: I was like, you can, but I want to warn you. 536 00:33:23,156 --> 00:33:26,876 Speaker 1: You're not going to enjoy the ride. It's it's gonna 537 00:33:26,916 --> 00:33:31,756 Speaker 1: be terrible. I drive like an a hole and he 538 00:33:31,836 --> 00:33:34,556 Speaker 1: was like, ah, come on, come on, I'm an adult, 539 00:33:34,436 --> 00:33:37,996 Speaker 1: and he's just gripping every handle in the car. I 540 00:33:37,996 --> 00:33:40,636 Speaker 1: didn't hit a brake once. It's like when you're driving 541 00:33:40,636 --> 00:33:43,196 Speaker 1: in New York there's taxi driver rules. You don't look 542 00:33:43,236 --> 00:33:48,316 Speaker 1: behind you, you just turn switch lanes. It's it's one 543 00:33:48,356 --> 00:33:51,516 Speaker 1: of the best driving environments in the world. It really is, 544 00:33:51,836 --> 00:33:53,716 Speaker 1: if you know how to do it. If if you're 545 00:33:53,756 --> 00:33:58,076 Speaker 1: confident in the taxi driver rules, you cannot hesitate. You 546 00:33:58,156 --> 00:34:04,276 Speaker 1: can't hesitate. Yeah. When I constantly cut into long lines 547 00:34:04,356 --> 00:34:07,916 Speaker 1: to get off, I hear in LA because everybody they're 548 00:34:07,916 --> 00:34:12,116 Speaker 1: not great drivers, that they're very careful drivers, they're very 549 00:34:12,156 --> 00:34:15,956 Speaker 1: courteous to a fault, and so they'll be waiting in 550 00:34:16,036 --> 00:34:18,196 Speaker 1: a long line to get off the highway and I 551 00:34:18,316 --> 00:34:20,516 Speaker 1: just scream right down to the very end of that 552 00:34:20,556 --> 00:34:23,036 Speaker 1: line and just cut someone off. And I call it 553 00:34:23,116 --> 00:34:28,436 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Brooklyn and Crooklyn ning it. I love that. I mean, 554 00:34:28,436 --> 00:34:32,756 Speaker 1: do you think legalized marijuana has anything to do with it? 555 00:34:32,756 --> 00:34:36,636 Speaker 1: It's not helping the melanists in Yeah, it's it definitely 556 00:34:36,636 --> 00:34:40,556 Speaker 1: doesn't help. No. I mean, I think the richest experience 557 00:34:41,036 --> 00:34:43,036 Speaker 1: in New York it's behind the wheel of the car 558 00:34:43,316 --> 00:34:45,996 Speaker 1: because you're so stressed out and you're just it's moment 559 00:34:45,996 --> 00:34:49,876 Speaker 1: to moment, and you know, you kind of I think 560 00:34:49,916 --> 00:34:53,036 Speaker 1: cars are about context in some way, Like you know 561 00:34:53,476 --> 00:34:56,116 Speaker 1: that piece of shit, Carolla is like maybe the best 562 00:34:56,156 --> 00:34:59,156 Speaker 1: car for New York City. You don't care about it 563 00:34:59,196 --> 00:35:01,916 Speaker 1: for sure. No, And you're gonna get You're gonna be 564 00:35:01,996 --> 00:35:04,836 Speaker 1: rubbing and dinging it up, and oh yeah, you don't 565 00:35:04,836 --> 00:35:07,116 Speaker 1: care what happens to it. I mean, do you remember 566 00:35:07,156 --> 00:35:14,636 Speaker 1: all those no radio signs? Yes? Yeah, yeah, the car 567 00:35:14,796 --> 00:35:18,356 Speaker 1: was just sort of like a delivery system for the radio. 568 00:35:18,516 --> 00:35:23,476 Speaker 1: And yeah, would smash windows and just grabbed those like yeah, 569 00:35:23,596 --> 00:35:26,916 Speaker 1: I had an ashtray full of change, and that was 570 00:35:26,956 --> 00:35:30,636 Speaker 1: my mistake. So my window got smashed and they just 571 00:35:30,756 --> 00:35:35,956 Speaker 1: took like four dollars and pennies and nickels, you know, 572 00:35:36,356 --> 00:35:40,356 Speaker 1: and a couple of very valuable quarters in Manhattan. You know. 573 00:35:40,436 --> 00:35:44,716 Speaker 1: The quarters are like you know, although have you ever 574 00:35:44,716 --> 00:35:47,676 Speaker 1: heard of the Universal Life Church. It's one of those 575 00:35:47,676 --> 00:35:52,996 Speaker 1: like sort of matchbook churches that you just you become 576 00:35:53,396 --> 00:35:56,396 Speaker 1: a minister just so you can marry people. Oh my 577 00:35:56,476 --> 00:35:59,116 Speaker 1: daughter just did that. Yeah, sure, sure, a lot of people. 578 00:35:59,236 --> 00:36:02,156 Speaker 1: I actually married our friend Lake Bell. You're the efficient. 579 00:36:02,356 --> 00:36:05,756 Speaker 1: I was the efficient. Yeah, I didn't marry them, so 580 00:36:05,956 --> 00:36:08,876 Speaker 1: I did it originally so I could get the parking 581 00:36:08,876 --> 00:36:13,836 Speaker 1: PA asked, I got a minister parking past and a 582 00:36:13,836 --> 00:36:15,356 Speaker 1: little thing that you know, what do they call those 583 00:36:15,356 --> 00:36:19,036 Speaker 1: things you clip on your rear view mirror, the a 584 00:36:19,076 --> 00:36:22,876 Speaker 1: little thing that said pastor. And I had an official 585 00:36:22,916 --> 00:36:25,796 Speaker 1: thing with a gold seal on my dashboards. So if 586 00:36:25,836 --> 00:36:29,316 Speaker 1: I parked in Manhattan anywhere near like a block or 587 00:36:29,316 --> 00:36:31,476 Speaker 1: two away from a church, I would never get a ticket. 588 00:36:31,676 --> 00:36:35,756 Speaker 1: It's like a diplomat plate or something exactly. And it worked. 589 00:36:36,116 --> 00:36:39,956 Speaker 1: It worked. I parked for free in Manhattan for years, 590 00:36:39,956 --> 00:36:41,596 Speaker 1: Like the Daily Show was right near a church, so 591 00:36:41,636 --> 00:36:45,876 Speaker 1: I just parked anywhere. Incredible that that is, that's like 592 00:36:46,236 --> 00:36:49,716 Speaker 1: what their kids call a life hack. That it was 593 00:36:49,836 --> 00:36:53,036 Speaker 1: life act before there were life acts. Yes, I wanted 594 00:36:53,076 --> 00:36:58,116 Speaker 1: to talk about how after you branched out into directing 595 00:36:58,596 --> 00:37:02,116 Speaker 1: and started to think about kind of the bigger picture 596 00:37:02,116 --> 00:37:05,916 Speaker 1: of filmmaking. I was really interested in how do you 597 00:37:05,996 --> 00:37:10,476 Speaker 1: think like cars informed character, Like when you're sending something 598 00:37:10,556 --> 00:37:13,036 Speaker 1: up in like the production design or whatever, how do 599 00:37:13,036 --> 00:37:16,636 Speaker 1: you approach that. It's very very important, and it's very 600 00:37:16,676 --> 00:37:21,596 Speaker 1: difficult to convince a line producer, the guy that's in 601 00:37:21,676 --> 00:37:24,476 Speaker 1: charge of the schedule and the money and the budget, 602 00:37:25,756 --> 00:37:30,836 Speaker 1: that you know you need a nineteen eighty seven g 603 00:37:31,036 --> 00:37:33,236 Speaker 1: n X, you know, you just need it for this 604 00:37:33,476 --> 00:37:37,156 Speaker 1: for this character, it's it's you know or or you 605 00:37:37,196 --> 00:37:40,436 Speaker 1: know or whatever the car may be, like you have 606 00:37:40,476 --> 00:37:45,236 Speaker 1: to be on like a Baller's basically because Ballers. It's 607 00:37:45,276 --> 00:37:52,516 Speaker 1: like story came second to to the cars, the sneakers 608 00:37:52,516 --> 00:37:57,756 Speaker 1: that the watches. Um, you had a McLaren on that show, right, 609 00:37:58,396 --> 00:38:02,676 Speaker 1: I had. Now, unfortunately I did not have a McLaren. 610 00:38:02,796 --> 00:38:07,636 Speaker 1: I had one of those BMWi right, So it's like 611 00:38:07,676 --> 00:38:12,076 Speaker 1: the fake McLaren. They tried. They tried very hard to 612 00:38:12,116 --> 00:38:15,676 Speaker 1: look like a McLaren, and you know, that car gets 613 00:38:15,716 --> 00:38:17,796 Speaker 1: a bad rap. I only got to drive it a 614 00:38:17,796 --> 00:38:21,156 Speaker 1: couple of times, but I get air in that car. 615 00:38:21,196 --> 00:38:23,956 Speaker 1: It was fun. That's a super cool car. I mean 616 00:38:24,236 --> 00:38:28,356 Speaker 1: it was I mean it didn't last long, but but 617 00:38:28,436 --> 00:38:31,636 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it, you know, the very little I got 618 00:38:31,676 --> 00:38:34,876 Speaker 1: to drive it. That character started off driving a Buick 619 00:38:36,516 --> 00:38:39,156 Speaker 1: and the season one, because that's the car that Peyton 620 00:38:39,196 --> 00:38:44,476 Speaker 1: Manning drove, and Spencer the Rocks character basically had to 621 00:38:44,516 --> 00:38:47,956 Speaker 1: explain to him that that's just a sponsorship deal man. 622 00:38:48,156 --> 00:38:51,716 Speaker 1: Peyton drives a Corvette, he doesn't doesn't drive a Buick, 623 00:38:51,756 --> 00:38:54,556 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, so then the next day 624 00:38:54,556 --> 00:38:57,716 Speaker 1: I had the I a nice you know, and so 625 00:38:57,756 --> 00:38:59,556 Speaker 1: then just yeah, it was a long stream of pretty 626 00:38:59,596 --> 00:39:02,476 Speaker 1: good cars. It's so many that I can't really remember. 627 00:39:02,516 --> 00:39:05,156 Speaker 1: The best one was the car my My final car 628 00:39:05,436 --> 00:39:12,236 Speaker 1: in that show was a TBS twelve cylinder Aston Martin 629 00:39:13,316 --> 00:39:17,756 Speaker 1: and oh my god, what what a car. I mean heavy, 630 00:39:18,036 --> 00:39:20,676 Speaker 1: as you felt the weight of that car as you 631 00:39:20,716 --> 00:39:23,876 Speaker 1: were driving, which was kind of a hindrance, but it 632 00:39:23,956 --> 00:39:29,676 Speaker 1: was such it's such a beautiful. I've been an Aston 633 00:39:29,796 --> 00:39:33,676 Speaker 1: Martin fan, a reluctant Aston Martin fan, ever since, just 634 00:39:33,716 --> 00:39:37,236 Speaker 1: because I'll never be able to afford one. And I 635 00:39:37,276 --> 00:39:39,596 Speaker 1: mean that's a great character development right there, from the 636 00:39:39,636 --> 00:39:44,796 Speaker 1: buick to the cylinder, you know. Yeah, and those cars 637 00:39:44,836 --> 00:39:48,196 Speaker 1: have that secret handshake, that smell like when you get 638 00:39:48,236 --> 00:39:51,876 Speaker 1: into him, you feel like you're in some English drawing room, 639 00:39:52,196 --> 00:39:55,596 Speaker 1: you know, absolutely, It's like, um, yeah, every car from 640 00:39:55,636 --> 00:39:58,996 Speaker 1: the seventies has a certain smell, and those Aston's have. 641 00:39:59,156 --> 00:40:03,956 Speaker 1: They smell like money man, and they're I've luckily somehow 642 00:40:04,036 --> 00:40:07,436 Speaker 1: finagled my way into becoming the Aston Martin guy on 643 00:40:07,516 --> 00:40:11,476 Speaker 1: top Gear Night, so whenever there's a new Aston Martin 644 00:40:11,596 --> 00:40:14,116 Speaker 1: I get to review it. I just reviewed the DVX 645 00:40:14,636 --> 00:40:18,716 Speaker 1: seven h seven awesome car. I was very surprised. It's 646 00:40:18,756 --> 00:40:23,156 Speaker 1: an awesome carum the vantage I got to, you know which, 647 00:40:23,516 --> 00:40:26,836 Speaker 1: every time I want to buy a car, I price, 648 00:40:26,916 --> 00:40:30,516 Speaker 1: I build and price a vantage online and it's just 649 00:40:31,156 --> 00:40:34,836 Speaker 1: it's never gonna happen. It's disgusting. I mean, like, you know, 650 00:40:34,996 --> 00:40:38,236 Speaker 1: somebody was saying that one hundred thousand dollars is the 651 00:40:38,316 --> 00:40:42,916 Speaker 1: new forty thousand dollars. Yeah, man, I mean it's I forget, 652 00:40:43,036 --> 00:40:46,276 Speaker 1: like it's upwards. If you really want to spec one 653 00:40:46,276 --> 00:40:52,716 Speaker 1: out correctly, it's almost two hundred grand. It's I can't 654 00:40:52,876 --> 00:40:57,276 Speaker 1: justify that even even if I had. I'm a character actor, 655 00:40:57,516 --> 00:41:00,436 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm a working man for hire. I 656 00:41:01,196 --> 00:41:03,676 Speaker 1: can't do that at a very high level. But no, 657 00:41:03,756 --> 00:41:06,796 Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying. It's like, I think those 658 00:41:06,796 --> 00:41:09,396 Speaker 1: are just cars for traders and for them, like two 659 00:41:09,476 --> 00:41:12,356 Speaker 1: hundred grands like buying a sweater or something. Yeah, and 660 00:41:12,396 --> 00:41:14,636 Speaker 1: then they just keep it in their garage and they're 661 00:41:14,876 --> 00:41:18,756 Speaker 1: you know, they put a humidifier in there and whatever 662 00:41:18,796 --> 00:41:20,676 Speaker 1: they do. I don't know what they do. There's a 663 00:41:20,756 --> 00:41:23,476 Speaker 1: cruelty to that, you know, the people who want these things, 664 00:41:23,516 --> 00:41:26,876 Speaker 1: the most can't get near them. But it's you know, 665 00:41:27,036 --> 00:41:29,476 Speaker 1: not Gear a lot like me. You know, my whole 666 00:41:29,516 --> 00:41:31,836 Speaker 1: job allows me access to these things, and I'm sure 667 00:41:31,956 --> 00:41:35,116 Speaker 1: top Gear is the same for you. How did you 668 00:41:35,156 --> 00:41:41,796 Speaker 1: come to be on the show? Right? Um? Like, it's true. 669 00:41:41,916 --> 00:41:45,956 Speaker 1: I mean, it's true. I I since I got to 670 00:41:46,156 --> 00:41:53,436 Speaker 1: LA in two thousand six, five or six, I have 671 00:41:53,556 --> 00:41:58,956 Speaker 1: been basically monopolizing my press time by saying that I 672 00:41:58,996 --> 00:42:01,716 Speaker 1: loved cars because I was really started to get back 673 00:42:01,716 --> 00:42:05,316 Speaker 1: in the cars and I was able. I you know, 674 00:42:05,356 --> 00:42:08,276 Speaker 1: you have to buy cars when you're in LA whereas 675 00:42:08,276 --> 00:42:12,076 Speaker 1: you didn't in new Ark, and so I was able 676 00:42:12,116 --> 00:42:15,236 Speaker 1: to sort of exercise that. You know, there's I was 677 00:42:15,276 --> 00:42:18,996 Speaker 1: never able to lease cars before. And boys have a 678 00:42:19,036 --> 00:42:21,036 Speaker 1: car for three years and then you can have another 679 00:42:21,076 --> 00:42:26,316 Speaker 1: great car. It was just awesome and and so you know, 680 00:42:26,596 --> 00:42:32,436 Speaker 1: I basically just planted it in the press, and it 681 00:42:32,516 --> 00:42:34,676 Speaker 1: was really just so I could get press cars, which 682 00:42:34,716 --> 00:42:38,196 Speaker 1: didn't really work. And then all of a sudden, you know, 683 00:42:38,676 --> 00:42:43,076 Speaker 1: fifteen years later, top Gear called. They were like, we're 684 00:42:43,356 --> 00:42:46,476 Speaker 1: going to have three posts. Of course Deck Shepherd is 685 00:42:46,516 --> 00:42:48,956 Speaker 1: already on, we want you to be the second one. 686 00:42:49,276 --> 00:42:51,956 Speaker 1: And I was like, I didn't even let them finish 687 00:42:51,956 --> 00:42:55,276 Speaker 1: their sentence. I was like, you can go through your spiel. 688 00:42:55,316 --> 00:42:58,436 Speaker 1: But the answer is yes, it's the best gig in 689 00:42:58,476 --> 00:43:01,956 Speaker 1: the world, right, it really is. I mean it was terrifying, 690 00:43:02,196 --> 00:43:04,596 Speaker 1: you know, because I sort of on the show represent 691 00:43:06,196 --> 00:43:13,956 Speaker 1: the sort of the everyman, the enthusiast. I'm the Pinto guy, right, Yeah, 692 00:43:14,196 --> 00:43:19,476 Speaker 1: Jethro and Dak Shepherd have a lifetime of car experience, 693 00:43:20,436 --> 00:43:23,356 Speaker 1: and I just you know, like looking at them and 694 00:43:23,476 --> 00:43:26,236 Speaker 1: driving them and kissing them and licking them, you know, 695 00:43:26,436 --> 00:43:31,716 Speaker 1: like I love them as a museum goer loves art 696 00:43:32,196 --> 00:43:36,276 Speaker 1: and you know, I and so I am that. I'm 697 00:43:36,356 --> 00:43:39,716 Speaker 1: I represent that. So on top Gear, I have become 698 00:43:39,756 --> 00:43:43,516 Speaker 1: the guy they put in very awkward, scary situations. And 699 00:43:43,596 --> 00:43:46,516 Speaker 1: now they're like, Okay, we're gonna fill up your car 700 00:43:46,596 --> 00:43:50,156 Speaker 1: with packing peanuts and you're gonna have to drive on 701 00:43:50,276 --> 00:43:53,116 Speaker 1: this track and I have like basically a little tiny 702 00:43:53,196 --> 00:43:58,116 Speaker 1: window and all these peanuts just sort of really susceptible 703 00:43:58,196 --> 00:44:02,676 Speaker 1: to gravity, and it was just and I hate peanuts 704 00:44:02,676 --> 00:44:06,396 Speaker 1: to begin with. Those packing peanuts are like a phobia 705 00:44:06,596 --> 00:44:09,916 Speaker 1: of mine. Basically they didn't even know that at the time, 706 00:44:10,356 --> 00:44:13,116 Speaker 1: but they were thrilled there's this thing about like that 707 00:44:13,196 --> 00:44:15,876 Speaker 1: show where the cars really are a prison, you know, 708 00:44:15,956 --> 00:44:20,956 Speaker 1: for the relationship between the three hosts, and you know what, 709 00:44:21,396 --> 00:44:24,236 Speaker 1: do you what was a kind of memorable thing for 710 00:44:24,316 --> 00:44:27,756 Speaker 1: you in those seasons where the car was really sort 711 00:44:27,756 --> 00:44:30,036 Speaker 1: of for lack of a better term, that that kind 712 00:44:30,036 --> 00:44:34,516 Speaker 1: of vehicle for the adventure for for what, like a 713 00:44:34,556 --> 00:44:36,956 Speaker 1: car that really said something about what you were trying 714 00:44:36,996 --> 00:44:41,316 Speaker 1: to accomplish. Well, I think it was probably my first real, 715 00:44:42,436 --> 00:44:46,876 Speaker 1: real victory. I mean I decided that if I was 716 00:44:46,916 --> 00:44:50,636 Speaker 1: going to have any success on this show, and I 717 00:44:50,676 --> 00:44:53,716 Speaker 1: mean success in terms of winning races and that sort 718 00:44:53,716 --> 00:44:56,196 Speaker 1: of thing and challenges, it was going to be because 719 00:44:56,276 --> 00:44:59,836 Speaker 1: I chose the best car for the job, yeah, you know, 720 00:44:59,956 --> 00:45:03,276 Speaker 1: and I would actually just do research and I would 721 00:45:03,276 --> 00:45:07,036 Speaker 1: spend days trying to figure out what the right car is, 722 00:45:07,596 --> 00:45:10,836 Speaker 1: whereas those guys were like, I'm just gonna get a 723 00:45:10,836 --> 00:45:13,756 Speaker 1: car that I want to drive, interested they invariably just 724 00:45:13,836 --> 00:45:18,116 Speaker 1: choose their own car. So it was it was like 725 00:45:18,156 --> 00:45:21,316 Speaker 1: an off roading race to get to the top of 726 00:45:21,316 --> 00:45:24,836 Speaker 1: this hill. It was made out of like lava rock, 727 00:45:25,236 --> 00:45:28,316 Speaker 1: basically this big, pretty big hill and we were an 728 00:45:28,356 --> 00:45:30,956 Speaker 1: Arizona somewhere and it was gorgeous and I'm sort of 729 00:45:30,996 --> 00:45:33,916 Speaker 1: an outdoor guy. This is my sweet spot, and so 730 00:45:33,956 --> 00:45:38,436 Speaker 1: I chose this fore Runner, one of the older four Runners, 731 00:45:38,476 --> 00:45:40,156 Speaker 1: you know, with all the chrome. I forget what year 732 00:45:40,196 --> 00:45:45,596 Speaker 1: it was, but it was the perfect perfect car for this. 733 00:45:46,236 --> 00:45:51,436 Speaker 1: And Dax had one of those aftermarket four wheel drive 734 00:45:51,556 --> 00:45:54,676 Speaker 1: kits in a in a Ford van, the Accounto line van. 735 00:45:54,836 --> 00:45:58,876 Speaker 1: That yeah, there were this famous aftermarket thing. And when 736 00:45:58,916 --> 00:46:01,156 Speaker 1: he presented it, I just smiled. I was like, it's 737 00:46:01,196 --> 00:46:05,076 Speaker 1: gonna break, it's gonna break. It's raking right now as 738 00:46:05,076 --> 00:46:06,916 Speaker 1: they're talking. You should get in there and drive it. 739 00:46:07,916 --> 00:46:11,956 Speaker 1: And what did Jethro chose this amazing? I think it 740 00:46:12,036 --> 00:46:16,796 Speaker 1: was like a also four wheel drive, after market big tires. 741 00:46:17,156 --> 00:46:19,516 Speaker 1: It was like a Subaru. It was like a WRX 742 00:46:19,636 --> 00:46:23,956 Speaker 1: or something, but it was totally tricked out for off road. 743 00:46:24,076 --> 00:46:27,196 Speaker 1: And he did fine. You know, he had the speed 744 00:46:27,356 --> 00:46:30,996 Speaker 1: for sure, but I had all the power. And my 745 00:46:31,036 --> 00:46:33,316 Speaker 1: first victory was not only getting to the top of 746 00:46:33,356 --> 00:46:37,276 Speaker 1: the hill first, but then going back down three quarters 747 00:46:37,316 --> 00:46:40,636 Speaker 1: of the way down the hill and towing decks all 748 00:46:40,676 --> 00:46:44,396 Speaker 1: the way up because he had put a water bed 749 00:46:44,396 --> 00:46:46,756 Speaker 1: in the back of his so I also had this 750 00:46:46,836 --> 00:46:49,556 Speaker 1: big knife on my side, this big bowie knife, and 751 00:46:49,556 --> 00:46:51,556 Speaker 1: I got to take it out and like slash his 752 00:46:51,796 --> 00:46:56,356 Speaker 1: water bed, just compounding humiliation. Yeah, it was I was 753 00:46:56,396 --> 00:46:59,516 Speaker 1: the best and he was just bummed out the whole time. 754 00:46:59,756 --> 00:47:04,356 Speaker 1: It's kind of hilarious that, like, you know, the actor 755 00:47:04,436 --> 00:47:08,276 Speaker 1: comedian is the most pragmatic when it comes to the 756 00:47:08,596 --> 00:47:11,596 Speaker 1: cartoy for the challenges. Well, I mean, you know, I 757 00:47:11,636 --> 00:47:15,036 Speaker 1: guess I guess that's that's an interesting comparison because I 758 00:47:15,076 --> 00:47:21,716 Speaker 1: mean the way I, you know, approach comedy, it's it's 759 00:47:21,756 --> 00:47:23,756 Speaker 1: to me. They're like people say, oh, would you ever 760 00:47:23,796 --> 00:47:26,276 Speaker 1: do a drama, And I'm like, well, yeah, sure, it's 761 00:47:26,276 --> 00:47:29,836 Speaker 1: the same thing to me. I approach it this. I 762 00:47:29,956 --> 00:47:33,556 Speaker 1: you know, put together a character the same way I 763 00:47:33,596 --> 00:47:37,036 Speaker 1: did for you know, when I was doing Shakespeare years 764 00:47:37,036 --> 00:47:39,876 Speaker 1: and years and years ago. M I you know, you 765 00:47:39,956 --> 00:47:41,956 Speaker 1: I build the can want there to be a light 766 00:47:42,156 --> 00:47:46,596 Speaker 1: behind my eyes, and so yeah, I am very pragmatic 767 00:47:46,636 --> 00:47:52,036 Speaker 1: when it comes to making choices and acting and on 768 00:47:52,116 --> 00:47:57,196 Speaker 1: top gear you know, in cars, super intentional about it. Yeah, 769 00:47:57,236 --> 00:48:00,396 Speaker 1: I made one really bad choice and it's kind of 770 00:48:00,436 --> 00:48:02,156 Speaker 1: like because I was just in a bad mood, I think, 771 00:48:02,196 --> 00:48:04,956 Speaker 1: and I just shout out my choice, and I ended 772 00:48:05,036 --> 00:48:07,516 Speaker 1: up with I forget what the challenge was, but I 773 00:48:07,636 --> 00:48:12,876 Speaker 1: ended up with a SOB nine hundred. That card just 774 00:48:13,036 --> 00:48:14,556 Speaker 1: I ended up. I gave up. At one point, I 775 00:48:14,596 --> 00:48:17,836 Speaker 1: was like, nah, I'm out here, you guys go. I've 776 00:48:17,836 --> 00:48:21,236 Speaker 1: got a whole theory about sobs and guys who own sobs. 777 00:48:23,076 --> 00:48:25,716 Speaker 1: They want to be car guys so badly, but they 778 00:48:25,756 --> 00:48:28,236 Speaker 1: just don't know what's good. Well, this was also like 779 00:48:28,316 --> 00:48:31,476 Speaker 1: I just didn't know what to choose for this particular challenge. 780 00:48:31,516 --> 00:48:34,196 Speaker 1: I don't even remember what the challenge was. And one 781 00:48:34,236 --> 00:48:37,996 Speaker 1: of the one of the producers, Dave, was he would 782 00:48:37,996 --> 00:48:40,796 Speaker 1: like suggest some cars, and I just took his first 783 00:48:40,876 --> 00:48:43,836 Speaker 1: choice because he loved sobs. He's the kind of guy 784 00:48:43,916 --> 00:48:49,636 Speaker 1: that loves crappy cars just to like love, you know, 785 00:48:49,756 --> 00:48:51,996 Speaker 1: just to be that guy. I don't want to offend 786 00:48:52,036 --> 00:48:53,676 Speaker 1: you if you own a Tesla, but I feel like, 787 00:48:54,316 --> 00:48:56,876 Speaker 1: come on, man, we've been talking for forty two minutes, 788 00:48:56,916 --> 00:48:59,236 Speaker 1: so I think I'd own a Tesla. I knew better 789 00:48:59,276 --> 00:49:04,196 Speaker 1: than to Oh my god, my wife won't even get 790 00:49:04,196 --> 00:49:07,676 Speaker 1: a Tesla. I love it. Yeah, but what do you 791 00:49:07,716 --> 00:49:10,076 Speaker 1: have now? You have the nine eleven? I got rid 792 00:49:10,116 --> 00:49:13,396 Speaker 1: of the nine to eleven because I was ordered the Bronco. 793 00:49:13,916 --> 00:49:17,916 Speaker 1: I ordered the new Bronco, and I've been waiting for 794 00:49:17,996 --> 00:49:22,636 Speaker 1: it for two years. So I finally just lost interest 795 00:49:23,276 --> 00:49:26,276 Speaker 1: in it and I canceled it. You know, it still 796 00:49:26,356 --> 00:49:30,076 Speaker 1: wasn't in production. And um, you know, because I ordered 797 00:49:30,556 --> 00:49:33,756 Speaker 1: the Wild was a wild track and of course the 798 00:49:33,996 --> 00:49:38,716 Speaker 1: hardtop multiple roof, which is impossible apparently like you're seeing 799 00:49:38,756 --> 00:49:42,636 Speaker 1: Bronchos out there, but they're all soft tops. And so 800 00:49:42,716 --> 00:49:45,316 Speaker 1: finally I just canceled that. And now I've got no car. 801 00:49:46,356 --> 00:49:49,156 Speaker 1: I've got I've got cars. But you know, my my 802 00:49:49,676 --> 00:49:52,556 Speaker 1: UM nineteen seventy eight two eighty Z is not a 803 00:49:52,636 --> 00:49:56,356 Speaker 1: daily driver, you know, my sprinters not a daily driver. 804 00:49:56,876 --> 00:50:01,156 Speaker 1: And I'm waiting basically from my guy to uh send 805 00:50:01,156 --> 00:50:03,956 Speaker 1: me a bunch of m I finally say, I've never 806 00:50:04,036 --> 00:50:08,556 Speaker 1: had I've never had a an M, a BMWM, I've 807 00:50:08,556 --> 00:50:11,996 Speaker 1: never had an AMG, and i've never had a V 808 00:50:12,556 --> 00:50:16,516 Speaker 1: a Cadillac v okay, but I've driven all of the 809 00:50:17,716 --> 00:50:19,876 Speaker 1: I've driven like a bunch of cts is and a 810 00:50:19,916 --> 00:50:22,436 Speaker 1: bunch of ATSs and stuff. And to find that, I decided, 811 00:50:22,476 --> 00:50:23,956 Speaker 1: you know what, now's the time I'm going to get 812 00:50:23,956 --> 00:50:27,276 Speaker 1: the new black Wing black Wing. I mean, first of all, 813 00:50:27,276 --> 00:50:30,516 Speaker 1: how cool is the name black Wing black Wing Man 814 00:50:30,796 --> 00:50:36,196 Speaker 1: No Sinister? Yeah, and then it's just phenomenal. I mean 815 00:50:36,236 --> 00:50:38,196 Speaker 1: it's one of those can't wait. It's one of those 816 00:50:38,236 --> 00:50:41,956 Speaker 1: like new digital cars that feels analog. It feels it's 817 00:50:41,956 --> 00:50:45,676 Speaker 1: so good. It's so like nuanced and like it's got 818 00:50:46,236 --> 00:50:49,196 Speaker 1: titanium rods and the shifter and they just went all 819 00:50:49,196 --> 00:50:53,836 Speaker 1: out on anything. Yeah. Yeah, that magnetic damping and all that. 820 00:50:53,956 --> 00:50:58,556 Speaker 1: It's like, I'm if he has trouble finding one that 821 00:50:58,916 --> 00:51:01,516 Speaker 1: gets even close to my spack, I'm gonna be heartbroken. 822 00:51:01,956 --> 00:51:05,436 Speaker 1: I think you need that. I think I need that too, Rob. 823 00:51:05,596 --> 00:51:10,276 Speaker 1: This was amazing. Thank you so much for man. It 824 00:51:10,476 --> 00:51:12,636 Speaker 1: was just so good to talk to you. Oh it's 825 00:51:12,676 --> 00:51:21,716 Speaker 1: so great. Yea, I love talking cars. Car Show is 826 00:51:21,756 --> 00:51:26,316 Speaker 1: written and hosted by me Eddie Alterman. It's produced by 827 00:51:26,356 --> 00:51:31,316 Speaker 1: Sam Dingman, Jacob Smith, and Amy Gaines. Our editor is 828 00:51:31,396 --> 00:51:37,676 Speaker 1: Jen Guera. Original music and mastering by Bentaladay. Our executive 829 00:51:37,676 --> 00:51:41,676 Speaker 1: producer is Mia Lobell. 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