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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in our number two Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we

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Speaker 2: are powering through the Friday edition of the program. As always,

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Speaker 2: us anywhere. As we now know, it is summer vacation season.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you are going to be out traveling.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of your kids are getting out

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Speaker 2: of school this week. My kids got out of school

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Speaker 2: last week. Going to be on the road. You want

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Speaker 2: to chill on the beach. You want to be able

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Speaker 2: to take Clay and Buck this show with us, have

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Speaker 2: us with you wherever you are across the country or

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Speaker 2: around the world. Go download the podcast, Go download the

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. All right, So, Buck, we have talked a

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Speaker 2: great deal about the implications of Elon Musk's purchase of

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Speaker 2: Twitter and what it represents in the free speech battleground.

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Speaker 2: Only free speech has not existed in a social media era,

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Speaker 2: and I thought last night leading into this morning actually

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Speaker 2: told us a tremendous amount.

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Speaker 1: Now, let me explain.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many of our listeners have watched

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Speaker 2: The Daily Wire. What is a woman documentary that Matt

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Speaker 2: Walsh and company put together. It's a fabulous movie, so

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Speaker 2: well done. There's humor, but more importantly, there's a great

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Speaker 2: deal of real analysis of the transgender movement and what

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Speaker 2: it represents.

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Speaker 3: There are some very funny moments too, so that they

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Speaker 3: executed it well, like when Matt asks one of the

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Speaker 3: gender experts, you know I like scented candles, like, am

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Speaker 3: I a woman?

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's some good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Very good. And I watched they sent a clip out.

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Speaker 2: I think we talked about it maybe like a year

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Speaker 2: ago when this came out. They sent us a screening

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Speaker 2: And I streamed and watched the whole thing on my phone,

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Speaker 2: not even having anticipated. The reason why I bring this

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Speaker 2: up is, as we go into the weekend, the Daily

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Speaker 2: Wire decided they wanted this movie to be freely distributed

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Speaker 2: for everyone, and they chose to do it on Twitter

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Speaker 2: because Twitter now allows long form videos to be shared.

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Speaker 2: Buck, one of the big stories about Elon's battle for

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Speaker 2: free speech at Twitter is there are still a ton

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Speaker 2: of far left wing employees that are trying to rig

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Speaker 2: the game on Twitter. And I think this is what happened, Buck,

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Speaker 2: with the spaces that Ron DeSantis undertook. I think somebody

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Speaker 2: just pulled a wire. And again I'm not a tech guy,

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Speaker 2: but when I say pulled the wire, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: decided to intentionally bring Mayhem and Haywire to.

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Speaker 1: The group.

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Speaker 2: And the same thing happened yesterday in the evening when

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Speaker 3: I think it's worth everyone noting that, even if you're

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Speaker 3: a pretty small percentage of you, Clay and I usually

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Speaker 3: guessed that maybe five ten percent of our people, meaning

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Speaker 3: I can't think of another circumstance where you had a

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Speaker 3: place where the worms of the woke virus mind infection

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Speaker 3: it's it's almost like you're getting to you're getting to dissect.

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Speaker 3: It's like you're opening up some you know, you're you're

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Speaker 3: Now you're seeing the full extent of it. And although

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Speaker 3: maybe I don't think reptiles really get infects that way.

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Speaker 3: Side note, who cares? You guys know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And the reality is, Clay that it was much worse

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Speaker 3: is not conspiracy theory stuff. This is reality. Think about this, everybody.

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Speaker 3: The company had thousand employees of employees, and if you know,

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Speaker 3: And there are still leave behinds in the organization. Elon's

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Speaker 3: Ella Irwin departed. That just happened. This is reporting the

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Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal today. I think she left yesterday. She

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Speaker 3: of trust and Safety is the equivalent at a corporation

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Speaker 3: America today of the political commissars that the Soviet Union

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so here's what I want to shoe. All

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Speaker 2: I just don't. But having one really changes the game.

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Speaker 2: And so last night The Daily Wire tweeted as followed,

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Speaker 2: it's the movie they really don't want you to see.

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Speaker 1: Hashtag what is a woman?

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Speaker 2: Watch the explosive documentary starring Matt Walsh free on Twitter

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Speaker 2: for twenty four hours. Okay, immediately upon that occurring, I

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Speaker 2: tried to share this Buck, you couldn't comment, you couldn't share.

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Speaker 1: Some of the left.

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Speaker 2: Wing still remaining members of that orthodoxy, tried to restrict

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Speaker 2: the distribution. This morning, Elon Musk tweeted a every parent

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Speaker 2: should watch this with a link to the Daily Wires movie.

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Speaker 2: All right, and then he said, and by the way,

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Speaker 2: when I read Elon's comments, I love it because he's

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Speaker 2: on this show for a long time, sending adults should

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Speaker 2: do whatever makes them happy, provided it does not harm others.

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Speaker 2: But a child is not capable of consent, which is

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Speaker 2: why we have laws protecting minors. And Buck, as we

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Speaker 2: are speaking right now to you, there are over twenty

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Speaker 2: But I do think this is something that if you're

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Speaker 2: I think it's important to recognize what they're doing and

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Speaker 2: scarily what they are trying to convince your kids are normal.

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Speaker 2: And remember Buck a while back, Mario Lopez, it might

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Speaker 2: Saved by the Bell, so he is, how many of

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Speaker 2: and I'm paraphrasing basically that he didn't think six year

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Speaker 1: And people lost their minds.

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Speaker 2: And I remember having a conversation at that point in

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Speaker 2: I mean, because kids aren't at six years old capable

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Speaker 3: You, you and Laura went with that. That uh interesting

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, and the doctor, by the way,

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Speaker 1: So I I know.

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Speaker 2: But we may be basically, like I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: the that's what we did.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think we could just ignore the lunacy

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Speaker 3: What is a Woman? Documentary? I think is so they

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Speaker 2: This is also where I think the far left wing

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Speaker 1: That's where they start to get really uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about this before, Buck, but I do think

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Speaker 2: They can't handle criticism and that's why they're constantly policing

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Speaker 3: we can still call them liberals. I guess the most

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Speaker 3: We were just talking about where the radical gender ideology

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Speaker 3: the state of Montana, there is representative Zoey Zephyr or

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Speaker 3: Zoe spelled with two o's, which I have never seen before.

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Speaker 2: Makes me want to pronounce it Zoe just I was

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Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 3: But this is very common, and this is the hysteria

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Speaker 5: As a legislator, one of the things I think about

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Speaker 3: One thing is, notice how it has to be the whole.

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Speaker 3: It's LGBTQ, it's it's gay, LESBIANI, it's all this together. Really,

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Speaker 3: It's if you draw any lines about any of these things,

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Speaker 4: The LGBTQ plus community.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is why the to me crystallization of

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Speaker 2: this for many people has come through women's athletics, right,

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Speaker 2: This is a ideology that is very often, frankly, and

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Speaker 4: That's that's true.

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Speaker 3: And it also they use the politeness of people on

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Speaker 2: You welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: Mandy Cohen. She's from North Carolina. Let me pause here

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Speaker 1: Bore the brun of the blame there and you need

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Speaker 2: Roy Cooper is term limited out, I believe, the current

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Speaker 3: Wait and mean does that include Asheville where I created.

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Speaker 2: Quite that's a great point, that is, mister Sexton. Was

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Speaker 3: The lunatics in downtown Ashville wearing masks in the stores

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Speaker 2: I was down at the beach on the beautiful Emerald

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Speaker 1: Here she is, I believe, laughing.

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Speaker 2: About the fact that she wasn't going to let them

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Speaker 2: She was just laughing over the dictatorial power that she

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Speaker 1: Go watch football?

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Speaker 7: Ha ha?

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Speaker 1: No, of course not.

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Speaker 3: This is so important though, because tyranny, real tyranny, is

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Speaker 3: duplicitous and capricious. Right, A true tyranny is not a

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Speaker 3: system where there are really strict laws for everybody. You

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Speaker 3: could say that's a draconian system, you could say that's

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Speaker 3: a harsh regime. But whether you're talking about the COVID

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Speaker 3: era in this country or even a place like you know,

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Speaker 3: North Korea today, there are very different rules for the

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Speaker 3: people in charge, and they decide what the rules are

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Speaker 3: based on a whim. And that's the worst kind of

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Speaker 3: tyranny because how do you deal with that? How can

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Speaker 3: you you know? How can you prepare? How can you know?

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Speaker 3: And that's why we felt it so much during COVID.

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Speaker 3: They were making it up as they went along. They

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Speaker 3: were addicted to power. Fauci and all the little Fauciites.

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Speaker 3: She's a fauci Ite just like a she's a smaller

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Speaker 3: version of Anthony Fauci on the national stage. They were

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Speaker 3: making it up as they went along, and they looked

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Speaker 3: at you and said, this is about you know the

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Speaker 3: I mean Clay, I was disinvited from a wedding because

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't I wouldn't get vaccinated to go to the wedding.

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Speaker 3: Like I got disinvited from a friend's wedding and I

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Speaker 3: was like, sorry, not not doing it. And then New

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Speaker 3: York City said you can't even go to your job

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Speaker 3: unless you get a shot, which fortunately the J INJ

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Speaker 3: shot was.

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Speaker 1: Like you, they destroyed.

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Speaker 2: The J ANDJ shotot doesn't exist was the closest thing

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Speaker 2: to a sugar placebo.

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Speaker 3: I know for a lot of you out there, it's

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Speaker 3: like you didn't If you didn't get the shot, you're

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Speaker 3: high five and all the other non shot people. But

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Speaker 3: in the tyranny and the tier yep, like Clay and

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Speaker 3: the tyranny regimes, though, our consolation prize in places like

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Speaker 3: New York and California is if you didn't have any choice,

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Speaker 3: meaning you're gonna get fired and you couldn't go anywhere. Uh,

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Speaker 3: the J and J was the option for everybody who's like,

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Speaker 3: this is crap. I don't want an m RNA vaccine,

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Speaker 3: but I'll just do this so they leave me alone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, the overall concept here is I just

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Speaker 2: think that clip is the way that so many in

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Speaker 2: these public health authorities thought about you if your business

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Speaker 2: was deemed non essential. And by the way, the very

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Speaker 2: idea that we allow to phrase like non essential business

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Speaker 2: to ever exist. Every business is essential to the owners,

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Speaker 2: to the people who use that business to make sure

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Speaker 2: that they can pay their mortgage, put their kids in school,

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Speaker 2: take care of them. That that was and is still

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Speaker 2: infuriating to me. And so I think anyone involved in

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Speaker 2: getting all those things right, you cannot allow this woman

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Speaker 2: to be elevated and praised based on getting the signature

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Speaker 2: element of public health wrong.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. We got to cut the cord.

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Speaker 3: You know. My feeling on this is that for anybody

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Speaker 3: who was in a position of leadership during COVID, you

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Speaker 3: know everything you need to know about that person's character

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Speaker 3: and leadership abilities by how they handled it. Now, that's

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Speaker 3: not to say that any nobody was perfect, because nobody

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Speaker 3: had perfect information. So I want to be very clear,

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Speaker 3: whether you're talking Donald Trump or talking Rondo Santis or

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Speaker 3: pick your politician.

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Speaker 4: Nobody was perfect.

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Speaker 1: When do you use that this is a good question.

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Speaker 1: When do you think it's fair?

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Speaker 2: Because I to answer, when do you think it's fair

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Speaker 2: to start judging somebody on their response to COVID?

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Speaker 4: I think it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so I can say, and this is funny

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Speaker 3: because I can go back in my Twitter timeline by May.

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Speaker 3: By May of twenty twenty, I was like, this is

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Speaker 3: all that's my answer. You are all insane, like anybody

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Speaker 3: who doesn't see this now. By April I actually got

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Speaker 3: dragged more on the internet for this than anything else

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Speaker 3: I ever wrote. I thought we should reopen for Easter Sunday, fully,

514
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Speaker 3: which was in April of twenty twenty, and I got

515
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Speaker 3: dragged and I wanted to kill Grandma and the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: So certainly by April you should have known something was up.

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Speaker 3: And by you know, if you're in a position of

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Speaker 3: leadership and or you know, doing what we do, looking

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Speaker 3: and reading the news all day, and by May it

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Speaker 3: was clear and anything beyond June, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: hear it any any anything.

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Speaker 4: Oh we had to do?

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Speaker 3: Nope, Nope, you go on, you go on the negative column.

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Speaker 3: I think starting around May based on COVID. So I

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Speaker 3: said this, I think you get everybody to be fair.

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Speaker 3: I think you give people a sixty day grace period. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because we didn't know. So that's and I think so

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Speaker 3: we could apply that to anybody, whoever, whoever you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Beyond that, though, once again, the summer and the fall

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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty all fair game. Everybody should have known

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Speaker 3: by then, and the twenty twenty one stuff was just

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Speaker 3: now we're just full on, you know, Kim Jong un, authoritarian,

533
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Speaker 3: crazy stuff going on. But I also think Clay that

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Speaker 3: one of the problems, one of the reasons we haven't,

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Speaker 3: you know, the reckoning we've talked about so much. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: one of the reasons the reckoning hasn't happened is because

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Speaker 3: and this is a tough one, and I look, I

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Speaker 3: just talked about the Jay and j thing, right. I

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Speaker 3: talked about how in New York City, people like me,

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Speaker 3: like you had no choice if you want to do

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Speaker 3: your job, and I hated it and it was gross

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Speaker 3: and it made me mad. But they made so many

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Speaker 3: people complicit in it by mandating it. Yea, So that

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Speaker 3: I think that that's part of it. Even if you knew,

545
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Speaker 3: like I knew wearing a mask was pointless and stupid

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Speaker 3: and the whole and I knew that the whole time.

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Speaker 4: Like the masking thing.

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Speaker 3: I knew just based on previous research and epidemiology that exists,

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Speaker 3: that masking was a pure signaling mechanism and a political tribalism.

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Speaker 3: But they made us all do this stuff, and so

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Speaker 3: there's a part of us. I think that a lot

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Speaker 3: of people we just want to move past it because

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Speaker 3: we were all, in some way forced to be complicit

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Speaker 3: with the ugliness. I mean, almost everybody masking up on

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Speaker 3: a plane, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think you're one hundred percent right. I

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Speaker 2: think that's one of the reasons why it's so challenging.

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Speaker 2: And also it comes back to what we talked about earlier.

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Speaker 2: The people who think they're so smart would have to

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Speaker 2: acknowledge that they got everything wrong. And not only did

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Speaker 2: all of the red state Rube Trump voters that they hate,

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Speaker 3: please send us some emails. Clay, I thought this was

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Speaker 3: very interesting. You appeared recently, and I actually had a

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Speaker 3: guy come up to me in the gym randomly to

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Speaker 3: tell me, Yeah, I saw Clay on Stephen A. Smith's podcast.

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Speaker 3: He did a good job, which I think is funny.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, I will pass that along to Clay.

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Speaker 3: So well done, sir. He sometimes get messages.

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Speaker 2: I love when people come up and they're like, hey,

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Speaker 2: can you tell Buck that I you know, I saw

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Speaker 2: them on this, uh the big podcast.

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Speaker 1: You did with seawan Es podcast Ryan podcast. I'll be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell Buck. Yeah, i'd say thing.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, you want me to just take a

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Speaker 3: message to Clay. Sure, that's what I'm here. I'll take

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Speaker 3: a message to Clay for you anyway. But you were

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Speaker 3: on Stephen A. Smith pod cast, and he's I think

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Speaker 3: it's just fair to say the biggest most recognizable name

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Speaker 3: over at ESPN. I mean, I know who Stephen A.

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Speaker 3: Smith is.

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Speaker 4: I can't name anybody else at ESPN. I don't. He's

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Speaker 4: the only one that I'd be able to name.

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Speaker 1: And he said something.

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Speaker 3: I thought this was really interesting because we just had

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Speaker 3: Memorial Day weekend and there was so little news coverage

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Speaker 3: of this, and he's calling it out play twenty one.

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Speaker 7: Where's the due diligence when it comes to putting a

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Speaker 7: spotlight on what we're doing to each other?

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Speaker 4: Because this is pissing me off.

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Speaker 7: Fifty three lives fifty three in one weekend. It's not

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Speaker 7: the first time this has happened. It's been happening year

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Speaker 7: after year after year, Chicago, Saint Louis, Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: The lift goes on and on.

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Speaker 7: Where's the noise that, where's the protests? Where's mainstream media

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Speaker 7: talking about that? Where's it? That's what I want to know,

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Speaker 7: because let me tell you something, nothing else matters if

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Speaker 7: we'm dead, Nothing else matters if we're killing each other.

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Speaker 3: Look, I appreciate the passion and the honesty and the truth, Clay,

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Speaker 3: the fact that you had fifty.

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Speaker 4: Three people shot in one city in one weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is how.

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Speaker 3: Can anyone think that that's a status quo that doesn't

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Speaker 3: demand immediate change?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, this is one of those conversations. And

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Speaker 2: I would like to think that maybe partly it was

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Speaker 2: our discussion, Buck, but we got into talking on the

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Speaker 2: stephen A podcast about police shootings. And there's a Washington

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Speaker 2: Post database. We've talked about it on this show. You

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Speaker 2: can go look it up. But stephen A was talking about, Hey,

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Speaker 2: how come we don't ever hear about a white person

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Speaker 2: getting shot by the cops or hispanic I'm paraphrasing again,

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Speaker 2: based on our conversation, I'd encourage you to go listen

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Speaker 2: to it. And I said, well, actually, you know police shooting.

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Speaker 2: Seventy five percent of people who get shot by police

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Speaker 2: are white, Hispanic, or Asian. You're twenty five percent or black,

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Speaker 2: But we only hear about police shootings involving black people

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Speaker 2: because that is the salacious division identity politics narrative that

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Speaker 2: the media wants to sell, that we all hate each

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Speaker 2: other and that America is a fundamentally racist place. And look,

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Speaker 2: I wish no one got shot by police.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: I wish, certainly police had a lot safer job. I

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Speaker 2: wish there was way less violence in this country. But

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Speaker 2: that's a stat that staggers I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: people on the left because they believe that police are

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Speaker 2: only shooting black people, and so the data reflects over

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Speaker 2: ninety percent of black murder victims are killed by other

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Speaker 2: black people. Right, most of the time, you are going

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Speaker 2: to be a victim of someone of your own race

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Speaker 2: because by and large your family, you're surrounded by people

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Speaker 2: who look more like you than look different. Right, that's

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Speaker 2: just the way that American life works. But the only

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Speaker 2: time you hear about a black death is when there's

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Speaker 2: a white person involved in So why does the media

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Speaker 2: It's a great question Stephen as asking why does the

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Speaker 2: media for the most part not care about black death.

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Speaker 2: It's not black lives matter, it's black lives matter when

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Speaker 2: white people are involved in taking them, which is a tiny,

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Speaker 2: tiny pinprick of the overall black death rate. And unfortunately, Buck,

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Speaker 2: as you well know, the legacy of BLM so far

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Speaker 2: has been that thousands of black people are dead, many

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Speaker 2: in inner cities, because police can't do their job to

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Speaker 2: help protect everyone.

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Speaker 3: And Chicago as a microcosm of Democrat policies and a

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Speaker 3: place that has been the you know, the daily for

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Speaker 3: mayor daily of Chicago, the daily political machine, and the

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Speaker 3: Democrat control and the iron fisted Democrat rule in Chicago

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Speaker 3: with its very strict gun laws. I should note that

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Speaker 3: clearly just keep law abiding, good people from defending themselves.

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Speaker 3: It's all a failure top to bottom, the whole thing,

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Speaker 3: their police approach, none of it is working. And the

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Speaker 3: only people that they can blame our Democrats and Chicago

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Speaker 3: just elected and it was really tragic because it was

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Speaker 3: mostly the black voters of Chicago who made this decision.

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Speaker 3: Another mayor, a black mayor, who is horrible on the

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Speaker 3: issue of crime. So it's not going to change. But

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Speaker 3: I appreciate Stephen A. Smith calling out the truth for

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Speaker 3: people to hear. So coming up here, we're going to

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Speaker 3: have Julie Kelly joining us Clay very interesting news breaking

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Speaker 3: today that we're gonna we're gonna talk to her about

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Speaker 3: We've you and I have been discussing this already, that

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Speaker 3: Mike Pence not going to face any classified charges or

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Speaker 3: you know, mishandling classified charges. That to me, well, I'll

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Speaker 3: throw your way because I know we're going to talk

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Speaker 3: jully about this.

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Speaker 4: What does that say to you?

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Speaker 2: First and foremost, Yeah, as we talked about in the

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Speaker 2: first hour of the show. To me, it is a

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Speaker 2: sign that they are trying to distinguish between the good

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Speaker 2: way to handle classified documents, i e. What Mike Pence

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Speaker 2: and I believe Joe Biden will have done because they

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Speaker 2: can now claim it's bipartisan, we're applying the same standard

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Speaker 2: and the bad way to handle classified documents, which is

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Speaker 2: what Joe Biden did.