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Speaker 1: I kept this way up at Angela Yee, and this

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Speaker 1: is exciting. Tailor Townsend is here getting ready for.

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Speaker 2: The US Open.

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Speaker 3: Hello, how you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm good? The question is how are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Girl? I'm great. I'm working. Happy to be here.

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Speaker 4: I love the city, but yes, I do. It brings

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Speaker 2: New York City.

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Speaker 3: It does.

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Speaker 2: And the weather's not too bad.

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Speaker 3: It was cold. This is cold to me because I

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Speaker 2: All right, But you grew up in Chicago too, Yes

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Speaker 2: I did. I this is not bad.

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Speaker 4: No, this is not bad. But I was like what

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Speaker 4: I was thinking, it was gonna be like real far

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Speaker 4: real summertime. But you know, I'm not complaining. My edges

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's important for us.

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Speaker 1: Listen, this so much that I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about as we're getting ready that you was opening.

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Speaker 1: It's such a big deal here. When I tell you,

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Speaker 2: Are you going?

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Speaker 1: Every single year? And so I know for you it's

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Speaker 1: been quite a journey. Yes, but you've done a lot

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Speaker 2: Because I enjoyed watching that show.

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Speaker 4: It was so much fun. I was actually very surprised too,

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Speaker 4: I was like, okay, clearly like and I asked her.

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Speaker 4: I was like I could have swore that like being

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Speaker 4: And I was like, well, got it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now now I know just accordingly.

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm I'm gonna slow down the clock.

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Speaker 1: And now let me ask you this pickleball is such

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Speaker 3: I fire, I'm not you have to be.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's so related. It's like a mini tennis.

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Speaker 4: It's actually very fun, but like it is different than tennis,

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Speaker 4: But in pickleball is the opposite because it's no strings.

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Speaker 1: Because anybody's into pickleball all of a sudden, people have

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Speaker 4: So it's like tennis can be incredibly intimidating because it's

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Speaker 1: All right, So tell me about your are now getting

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Speaker 2: So what is your process like? Now?

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Speaker 1: I know you've been, you know, going through a lot

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Speaker 1: Say that that's why you have to win your first

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Speaker 4: I know, and I'm so excited to be here because

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Speaker 1: You know, how do you feel about doing press and

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Speaker 1: many racist remarks and how racist tennis has been, you know,

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Speaker 2: Wow, like just to that.

440
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Speaker 4: No, like just that in itself of like the mental

441
00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,360
Speaker 4: like struggles and you know, just even that part of

442
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,480
Speaker 4: like regardless of tennis, that part alone of like having

443
00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:54,920
Speaker 4: to break like generational cycles of like psychological like bonds

444
00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,040
Speaker 4: that you had that you don't even know, like you know,

445
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Speaker 4: finding out that like I was a stress eater, like

446
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,520
Speaker 4: I would eat when I was stressed out, and like

447
00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,679
Speaker 4: you know, just patterns and habits and behaviors that I

448
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,440
Speaker 4: had to break first, first become aware of right, and

449
00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,119
Speaker 4: then figure out, Okay, how can I break this, you know,

450
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,359
Speaker 4: because this is holding me back. So it was like

451
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,959
Speaker 4: even the weight loss journey was such a way that

452
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,560
Speaker 4: I had to like really evolve as a person and

453
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,520
Speaker 4: like become something that I had really never been before,

454
00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,200
Speaker 4: you know, and you know that I had to do

455
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,640
Speaker 4: that for almost five six months before I even touched

456
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Speaker 4: the tennis court.

457
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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

458
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,480
Speaker 4: So I was doing because I had a C section,

459
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 4: so like I wasn't able to just like jump right

460
00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,640
Speaker 4: back into like the bounce back, which is like it's

461
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,240
Speaker 4: so funny because sometimes I look and you know, you

462
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 4: know how Instagram is like you can't really get caught

463
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 4: up on that stuff, but I'd.

464
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Speaker 3: Be looking, I'm like what is this?

465
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,679
Speaker 4: Like what type of bounce back is this? Like waste

466
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,639
Speaker 4: is like this, I'm like what is like?

467
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 3: This is not real?

468
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 1: It definitely people you know, really playing around with the

469
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 1: picture and very yeah, it's very unrealistic.

470
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Speaker 4: It's so crazy because I'm like, this was not my

471
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 4: experience at all.

472
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Speaker 1: When they have a baby, they also you know, do

473
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 1: a little snip snip, yeah, right as well.

474
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, while they're on that table, I'm gonna do that.

475
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 3: But it was it was like the even that.

476
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, I worked out for five months before even

477
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,159
Speaker 4: touching the court, okay, you know, because I was just like,

478
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 4: I don't want to hurt myself. I gotta get some

479
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,400
Speaker 4: of his weight off, you know. So just the whole journey,

480
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 4: like has it taught me so much just about myself

481
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 4: And it was not easy, but you know, it's it's

482
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 4: made it all worthwhile because the lessons that I've learned

483
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 4: and the person that I've become along the way, it

484
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 4: has given me so much strength. And that's why I'm

485
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 4: able to stand here and stand in these positions and

486
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 4: be where I am front facing like as myself.

487
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Speaker 2: What's your ranking right now?

488
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 3: Because it's forty six and singles and seven and doubles.

489
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 1: Because I know the goal was to break into the

490
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Speaker 1: top fifty and you've done that now top twenty yeah, and.

491
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 2: Then okay it's next, it's next. Oh my gosh. You

492
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 2: should be so proud of yourself.

493
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 1: And then also giving back so the Black Girl Tennis Club, Yes,

494
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: that's something now that you are also a part of

495
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Speaker 1: So talk to me about that decision.

496
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Speaker 3: Yes.

497
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Speaker 4: So I'm on the board of the Black Girls Tennis Club,

498
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Speaker 4: which I'm really excited about. I started maybe three or

499
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 4: four months ago. Three months ago I was like officially

500
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 4: on the board with them. But I'm really excited because

501
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 4: so last year at Wimbledon, I was sitting in a

502
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 4: cafe and I was asking myself, like I just felt

503
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 4: like I didn't really know why I was doing what

504
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 4: I was doing. I had felt like, Okay, I proved

505
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 4: to myself, I can come back. You know, I'm here,

506
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 4: I'm playing, I'm doing my thing, like, but I didn't

507
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 4: really have an idea of like what's next, you know,

508
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 4: like after tennis, you know. And I was sitting in

509
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 4: a cafe and then all of a sudden, like I'm journaling,

510
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 4: and I was just like, I want to create a legacy,

511
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Speaker 4: like outside of just what I do on the court,

512
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Speaker 4: Like I want to create something that is like legendary.

513
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 4: And so I started writing down ideas and jotting stuff down,

514
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 4: and you know, just I felt as though the being

515
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 4: a part of the Black Girls Tennis Club while playing

516
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 4: and being front facing is so powerful because it first

517
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 4: is able to amplify my voice as a black woman

518
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 4: in the sport. I think it gives access and not

519
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 4: only access, but inspiration to people who may not have

520
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 4: even thought about picking up a racket. And that's the

521
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 4: one thing that I really like about the group is

522
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 4: that it's people who have never played before. Yeah that's great,

523
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 4: some people who play all the time, some people who

524
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 4: maybe have only picked up a racket one time.

525
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Speaker 1: And it's not like you just run into a tennis

526
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Speaker 1: cary exactly in the neighborhood.

527
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Speaker 4: But it's also a community, which I think is so great,

528
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 4: and that's what I found. I was like, this is

529
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Speaker 4: where the gold is and creating community within well, creating

530
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 4: our own community, you know, like within the sport. It

531
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,239
Speaker 4: doesn't have to be on a pro level. It can

532
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 4: be within on all the levels. So it's just like

533
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Speaker 4: I'm really excited to be a part of that because

534
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 4: we're gonna do some great things, like I know it.

535
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 4: But just being able to be on the board while

536
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 4: playing and represent them while being at the US Open,

537
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 4: like you know, our board member is on Louis Armstrong

538
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 4: right now. Like it's just so powerful and it gives

539
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 4: I just feel like it just gives me a way

540
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 4: to like amplify the voice in the mission of what

541
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 4: they're trying to do. But ultimately it's just all about

542
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 4: just community camaraderie, just bring black women together and and.

543
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: To be outside because yeah, you know, nowadays everybody's just

544
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: on their facetimes, on TikTok and doing all of those things.

545
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 1: So I'm parting to be back outside and moving again

546
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: and be around each other in real life. Yes, activity

547
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 1: like going down because you can't be on your phone while.

548
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 4: You put the phone passable. Yes, but it's like it's

549
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 4: it's really fun. Like I'm super excited to like, you know,

550
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 4: one my schedule dies down and actually being able to

551
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 4: like really be a part of certain things. But like

552
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 4: they do activations at all the big tournaments, so I'm

553
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 4: able to like go and do stuff with them. I

554
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 4: think we're don't they have a charity event, Kenny in

555
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 4: a charity event that we're doing over the next couple

556
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: of days, they're doing something. We're at some park. So

557
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 4: just being able to like be a part of this

558
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 4: type of stuff, like while I'm still playing, I think

559
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 4: it's like super important.

560
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: And thinking about how you even started playing tennis and

561
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: what it did for you when you were younger.

562
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: Can you talk about that?

563
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, it's actually funny you asked me that, so

564
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 4: like it's a full circle moment. Like I started in

565
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 4: the park, like Public Park, and it's so funny because

566
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 4: like I always find myself back at those type of places,

567
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 4: like at home. Someone asked me, she was like, do

568
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 4: you hit at a country club? I'm like, girl, I

569
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 4: hit out a park. It's the same people. You see

570
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 4: the same people every day, playing music, having a good time.

571
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 4: Like that's how it was, Like, that's what I remember

572
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 4: when I was growing up in Chicago, Like the black

573
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 4: tennis community was very small, and even on the South

574
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 4: Side it was even smaller. So everyone knows each other, right,

575
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 4: So you know, that's what I remember, and that's what

576
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 4: I find, like I gravitate towards that's what literally I

577
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 4: hit out of park and these people they play all

578
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 4: day long, saying people they're like, oh, Taylor's coming at

579
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 4: this time, Okay, like you know some people's I stayed

580
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 4: so I can watch you practice, like and it's not

581
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 4: nothing weird or anything like that, but just real love

582
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 4: and support. And so that's how I started and to

583
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 4: be able to like here at the US Open this year,

584
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 4: I'm actually playing mixed doubles with Donald Young and like

585
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 4: he's when we talk about inspiration, like I was around

586
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 4: him when I was growing up. He was number one

587
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 4: junior in the world, you know, multiple Grand Slam junior champion, like,

588
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 4: and so he was the closest thing that I had

589
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 4: on a day to day basis of like this being possible,

590
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 4: like being able to play on a professional level. And

591
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 4: like when I looked at him, I was like, oh,

592
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 4: I want to do that, you know. So I'm playing

593
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 4: with him in mixed doubles because he's retiring this year.

594
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 4: So like he asked me, it's like, hey, will you

595
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 4: like close me out?

596
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 2: You know.

597
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 4: So it's really cool kind of like full circle moment,

598
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 4: just being able to kind of like be able to

599
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 4: close out the career of someone that gave me the

600
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 4: inspiration to play and that to feel like it was

601
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 4: possible for me to even be out here and do

602
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 4: what I'm doing. So I mean, the more that I

603
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 4: can do that for anybody else, like anyone woman, man,

604
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 4: doesn't matter, like, you know, to inspire them to like

605
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 4: know that it's possible. Girls, boys like I just I

606
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 4: just hope that my story and me just being out

607
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 4: here and just being me, being myself is like is enough.

608
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: And tennis is an expensive sport. That's something that we learned.

609
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: Even when we were watching Serena Williams and Venus Williams

610
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: come up. I think a lot of us learned a

611
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: lot about just what goes into becoming a professional tennis

612
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: player from watching that, having to pay for a coach,

613
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: having to be able to travel, pay for clothes, find

614
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: some place to go and practice period. So for you,

615
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: what was that like coming up and figuring out how

616
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: you were gonna actually take it to the next level?

617
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was hard.

618
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 4: I mean I have an older sister who played, so

619
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 4: she's two years older than me, and in juniors you

620
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 4: skip or you move up by increments of two years.

621
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: So my sister was two years older than me. So

622
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 4: whatever she played, I had to play up because my

623
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 4: parents couldn't afford to take her to Makeing and me

624
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 4: to Augusta, you know, and split up. So they're like, hey, Taylor,

625
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 4: you're just gonna have to go where Simone goes. So

626
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 4: I ended up having at eleven ten eleven, twelve years

627
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: old playing against eighteen.

628
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: Year old and it worked out so good.

629
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 4: It worked out for me. But you know, just the accessibility,

630
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 4: like the sport is, it's so it has so many legs,

631
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 4: Like it has so many different things that you have

632
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 4: to invest in, like training, travel, like you know, just

633
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 4: on the in even separating practice and your training versus

634
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 4: like your travel and expenses when you're on the road

635
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 4: and actually going to tournaments, two separate things.

636
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: Right, It is so so.

637
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: So expensive, and even I find that it's so difficult

638
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 4: at this stage to break into like pro tennis, because

639
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 4: it's so hard. The level is so high. You have

640
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 4: the nil now where, which is great because you have

641
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 4: the college kids having a chance to have money in

642
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: their pocket to be able to travel some and play

643
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 4: some tournaments. But it's really really hard, Like I mean,

644
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 4: I remember I talked about this. One time I played

645
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 4: a pro tournament and I walked away with twenty six

646
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 4: dollars in my pocket. Oh my gosh, that was my

647
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 4: prize money.

648
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: Twenty six dollars.

649
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 4: Twenty six dollars. I made sixty six dollars with a

650
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 4: forty dollars deduction for entry fee, And I was like,

651
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 4: that can't even fill up my gas tank. So it's

652
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 4: like there are lots of moments and a lot of

653
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 4: times and like the it's a lot that you know,

654
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 4: people talk about the equal pay and everything at the

655
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 4: big tournaments, and that's great, but like the grind to.

656
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: Get to this place is just because you were number

657
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: one in junior, yeah, and junie and then at that

658
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: time they'll still having to pay to go and even

659
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: fly yourself out.

660
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it was that was one of the decisions

661
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 4: that was one of the driving forces of why I

662
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 4: ended up. I left home at fourteen. I moved down

663
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: to Florida to train at the USTA because I knew,

664
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, my parents can't afford me to send me

665
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 4: to Melbourne, Australia, and if I didn't go, who knows

666
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 4: if I would have won Australian Open. And that was

667
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 4: like the start of my like kicked off my junior career,

668
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 4: you know, in becoming number one that year. So it's

669
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 4: like I knew that I wouldn't have had the same

670
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 4: opportunities because we didn't have the same pockets.

671
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: You know, cause it is a luxury.

672
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: Even now, I saw you just recently talking about the

673
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: grind of like playing for three and a half weeks

674
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: straight with no breaks, but also having to figure out

675
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: how to watch chravel from here to hear Well, that's

676
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: that flight costs X amount of dollars. We can't af fly,

677
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to drive overnight. I saw all of

678
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: that transpiring for you.

679
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: And it's still not easy.

680
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: And what was your first ever endorsement deal that you got,

681
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: Because that's another thing too, right, is also getting to

682
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: the point where like people are seeing you out there,

683
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: They're seeing you winning, they're seeing your personality, They're like,

684
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: we want to get behind her.

685
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's the place that we're in now because like,

686
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: as of right now, the only endorsements that I have,

687
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 4: well I have a couple, but like the main one

688
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 4: is really just my racket sponsor. Like I don't have

689
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: a clothing sponsor. I don't have a shoe sponsor. Like

690
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 4: so when you see me on Core, like I'm wearing

691
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 4: a Dida shoe, the Lululemon dress and you know, Yawnix

692
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 4: wristbands like you know, So for me, like that's where

693
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 4: I am right now and being able to capitalize on

694
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 4: my successes and build my brand so that you do

695
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 4: get the sponsorship. But I feel like that's that's sometimes

696
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: where athletes can go wrong because you can be so

697
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 4: linear and just like wanting the sponsorships in your space,

698
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 4: in your in your sports space, which is great, but

699
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 4: you know, what do you do after that? Like when

700
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 4: you're done, then what's after that? And so we're building

701
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 4: big picture and for me, like I had I was

702
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 4: a Nike athlete when I was a junior and stuff

703
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 4: like that, and I was like, Okay, that was cool,

704
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: but like, you know, I'm trying to build for like later,

705
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 4: like me as a person. So if I put down

706
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: a racket, this is still gonna keep rolling, you know.

707
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 4: So like it's the cool part. Like, of course, it's

708
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 4: been difficult over the last you know years. I mean,

709
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 4: I'm very blessed in the situation I'm in terms of

710
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 4: prize money to be able to kind of hold me over,

711
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 4: to to be able to keep rolling into my expenses,

712
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 4: but ultimately, like that's been my source of income, you know,

713
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 4: so like it can't over the last years. It can

714
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 4: be difficult because it's like knowing that this is the

715
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 4: only this is the only way that you're paying your bills,

716
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 4: and that makes it hard, you know, it puts an

717
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 4: additional level of pressure on you to know that you

718
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 4: need to perform, you know, because you have other things

719
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 4: like coming out, you know, and on top of that

720
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 4: now having a kid, and I'm like, yeah.

721
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: And he but you get to show him all the

722
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: positive things.

723
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 4: I mean, it makes it so, it makes it so

724
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 4: work with it. But you know, and I try not

725
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 4: to show those things and those like you know, I

726
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 4: tried and showed and be authentic and be be truthful.

727
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 4: But like for him, it's just like, no, I'm gonna

728
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: get it. I'm gonna get it so that you don't

729
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 4: even feel it, like I'm gonna go get it, you know,

730
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 4: and knowing like I have that chip on my shoulder

731
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 4: and that those thoughts in the back of my mind.

732
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 4: So it's like I always have thrived really well, like

733
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 4: under pressure and like when I have a chip on

734
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 4: my shoulder, So like you know, there's no no motivation

735
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 4: like being broke honest.

736
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: Yourself in that corner. No, you gotta make this happen, you.

737
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: Gotta do it. So yeah, I'm gonna get it no

738
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: matter what.

739
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: And I saw it was a journalist that was saying

740
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: that you're the person that you feel like that he

741
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: feels like people should be avoiding or should want to

742
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: avoid when it comes to the US open.

743
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: How did that make you? Yeah, how did that make

744
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: you feel?

745
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. That's cool.

746
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: Let me hold that. I'm gonna find it because I

747
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: saw this earlier course. I mean that's a yeah, he

748
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: said in.

749
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: A very positive way, like Taylor is the person I think, yeah,

750
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: that you don't want to see at the US.

751
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 4: Because I'm I'm coming. That's all I'm gonna say. I'm coming.

752
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 4: I made a commitment. I made a promise to myself

753
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 4: and my son before I left because I had a

754
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 4: little breakdown before I left because I was like, this

755
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 4: is this year. I've struggled a lot with like the

756
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 4: in and out of the demands, like the in and

757
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: out like having to leave for three weeks and come

758
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: back for three days, four days, and then leave for

759
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 4: four weeks and then come back for a week, and

760
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 4: knowing that that week that you have is not a

761
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 4: real week because you still have practice, still have workouts,

762
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 4: still have training. Like so I'm not like my time

763
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 4: is split, so I don't really have the ability to

764
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 4: just pour one hundred percent into like my home life

765
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: that I feel like I'm missing out on.

766
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: So for this entire year, like I've struggled.

767
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 4: So it actually the struggle started last year off season

768
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: because I was like, this is my time where I'm

769
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 4: supposed to like have time, Like this is off season.

770
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: I'm not playing, I'm not like I don't have tournaments,

771
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 4: Like why do I feel like everything's going so fast

772
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 4: and I have no time? And I was really struggling

773
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 4: like mentally, and then I was just like, okay, I'm

774
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 4: just because like it was it was really affecting me, right,

775
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 4: And then I was like, Okay, this Australia trip coming

776
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 4: up where you know you're about to be gone for

777
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 4: six weeks, like again another thing that's in the back

778
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: of my mind. And then I just decided I'm like okay,

779
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 4: like whatever time that I have, like I just really

780
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 4: have to make it like worthwhile. So then I started

781
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 4: really like pivoting and focusing more on like quality times, yeah,

782
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 4: versus like it doesn't have to be a lot, you know,

783
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 4: like but the time that you have like really make

784
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 4: it count and like be present and like make it quality.

785
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: So like that's been kind of like the thing that's

786
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 4: kept me balanced because like the in and out.

787
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 3: Like it has.

788
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: It's really like it's it's been hard. And I told

789
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,959
Speaker 4: my manager, I was like, dang, I wish I didn't

790
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 4: come home.

791
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: Like that's how I felt to leave.

792
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I got home Saturday and I was

793
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 4: leaving Tuesday six am. Like I was like, I really

794
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 4: wish that I didn't come because like I feel so bad,

795
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 4: Like there's a guilt where I'm just like myself is like.

796
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: I missed you so much, Like are you gonna leave me?

797
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 4: You're never gonna like and I'm just like I just

798
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 4: rather like sometimes just be stay gone, you know, Like

799
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 4: it's so difficult, but like I have such a great

800
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: circle and like people around me that I can lean

801
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 4: on and support and I know that like he knows

802
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 4: what I'm doing, and it's like it's not like I'm

803
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 4: out here just doing whatever.

804
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: Like he can see.

805
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: Like and you can FaceTime. Yeah, I think about back

806
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: in the day, we didn't have that.

807
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: I know, and I'm just like, oh my gosh.

808
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 4: But I just know, like sometimes he will watch my

809
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 4: matches when me k He's like you did a great job,

810
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 4: you know. So it's like it's good to know that

811
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 4: like he knows that it's not for like, it's not

812
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 4: for no reason, you know, Like I'm really I'm really

813
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 4: out here trying to do this for us.

814
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: Out here it is Okay.

815
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: John Wertheim from the Tennis Channel, Okay, he's the one.

816
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: He said that you are the player that nobody wants

817
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: to face.

818
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: I love that.

819
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good that's a good feeling.

820
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 3: It's true, it's true.

821
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 2: What is success to you now?

822
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 4: Success to me is I feel like I'm successful right

823
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 4: now because I feel like I'm living in my truth

824
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 4: like that.

825
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: I feel like that's success.

826
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 4: Like being able to truly like just be who you are, unapologetically,

827
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 4: like just front facing and you know, whatever it's said

828
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 4: is said, whatever comes comes like and also operating in

829
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 4: a space in place of like gratitude and just flowing

830
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 4: like what's meant for me won't miss me, you know,

831
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 4: and like that's my mindset, like it won't miss me.

832
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 4: Like whatever is destined, ordained for me is gonna happen,

833
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 4: you know. So I feel like I'm truly like in

834
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: my purpose and living in my purpose and exactly where

835
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be. So like for me, success is

836
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 4: not about obviously you know, in being an athlete, you

837
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 4: want to win, and you want to win the titles

838
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 4: and get the trophies and all that stuff. But for me,

839
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 4: it's not really about that anymore. Like it's not about

840
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 4: the tangible things. It's like the process, okay, And I'm

841
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 4: really just enjoying the process and everything that comes along

842
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 4: with it. So I feel like I'm I'm successful right now.

843
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm a living, breathing success. That's like

844
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 4: you know what walking you like, I mean, I'm just

845
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 4: really just enjoying like the whole ride and the whole journey,

846
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 4: because that's what it's about. Like you want to look

847
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: up and be like, dang, that was really fun, you know,

848
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 4: like regardless, because there are times when people who have

849
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 4: all the trophies and all the accolades but are like miserable.

850
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right about that.

851
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the good thing is you have plans, Like

852
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: you also know because you had to take a break

853
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: and sit and take that eighteen months, right, you also

854
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: know all your other abilities that you've been able to hone.

855
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah that's important now and in the space that.

856
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,479
Speaker 4: You love, Yeah, and knowing that like this isn't it

857
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 4: Like if I decide to stop playing tomorrow, Like and

858
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 4: I say this all the time, and this is actually

859
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 4: one of the things that this is like keeps my

860
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 4: compass at north. If I stop playing tomorrow, would I

861
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 4: be happy? Like would you be okay? And for me,

862
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 4: every single time that I ask myself that question, I'm like, yeah,

863
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 4: I'll be fine, right, Like I'm truly like at peace.

864
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 4: So it's like I'm doing this and that's how I

865
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 4: know I'm doing this because I want to do it,

866
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 4: not because I have to.

867
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: It's because I want to do.

868
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: You feel like having your son just changed everything for

869
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: you as far as your perspective on life, and.

870
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: Totally like it was it was the blessing that I

871
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 4: didn't know I needed, like cause again I did not

872
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 4: want kids, right, so, like it was such a shock

873
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 4: for me and it completely like just flipped like my

874
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 4: whole world upside down because I really had to be

875
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 4: like this is happening, Like, but it made me look

876
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 4: at more than anything, it made me really look at

877
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 4: myself like what kind of mother do I want to be?

878
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 4: It made me like I went because I'm not scared

879
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 4: to look in like at that dark stuff in the mirror,

880
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 4: like it or that shaky thing in the closet and

881
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 4: the door is closed and you try to lock you

882
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 4: throw away to key like no, So I'm not really

883
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 4: scared to go to those places. So for me, like

884
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 4: I had to address like childhood trauma, like what was

885
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 4: my experience like as a child, Like I went back

886
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 4: to that, like what was my experience as a Like

887
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 4: how did I feel when this happened with my parents?

888
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: Like you know, okay, I'm not gonna do that.

889
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: You know, like did you adjust that with your parents too? Ever?

890
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to have those conversations with your parents.

891
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to get I had to get understanding

892
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 4: and like like a grasp on what my experience was.

893
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 3: But then I did. I went to my parents.

894
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, like I did that with my dad

895
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 4: with dating when I became single, I was just like, Dad,

896
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 4: I'm out here. I was like, there's so much that

897
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: you didn't teach me, Like what is one the heck?

898
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, like I think I felt like dance is

899
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: teaching keep your legs closed.

900
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like I was like, wow, but it has

901
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 4: made our relationship like so much better because now it's

902
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: like there was never any like hesitation in terms of

903
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: asking that, but because he had a guilt of like

904
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: what went on with us and like the divorce and everything.

905
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 4: You know, he just wanted to be good dad, you know,

906
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 4: and he's a fantastic dad. But it's like, you know,

907
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 4: sometimes you don't I want to rock the boat. But

908
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 4: these type of conversations and these type of things where

909
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 4: you got to look at yourself, it can.

910
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 3: Be it can rock the boat real bad. You can

911
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: turn Titanic.

912
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: So it's like they can sink the boat.

913
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:11,959
Speaker 3: They can sink the boat.

914
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 4: So it's like it really has like it's made me

915
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: understand myself more.

916
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: It gave me closure.

917
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 4: In terms of my experiences as a child, and it

918
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: also helped give me direction like this was great. I

919
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 4: think this was very beneficial or yeah, I'm definitely not

920
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 4: doing that, you know what I mean. So it's just

921
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 4: like it gave me almost guidance and direction in a

922
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 4: way of like how I want to like at least

923
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 4: try to the best of my ability to like raise

924
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 4: my child.

925
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: You know, how over were you the first time you

926
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: picked up the tennis racket. I was four, So your

927
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: son is three, Yes, so it's almost time.

928
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: I hope not.

929
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 4: I don't want him to play girl. No, I don't

930
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 4: want to go through this again. I do not want

931
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: to go through this again. And even like the sport

932
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: has changed so much so for me, like when he

933
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 4: if and when he gets to that place where he's

934
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 4: like competitive, it's gonna be like a completely different sport,

935
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 4: like just the whole, like the experience as a whole,

936
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 4: like the development, like all of the things are so different,

937
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 4: like the recruiting system, like they use UTR, where before

938
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 4: it was like you a one star, two star, three star,

939
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: four star, five star. That's how it was for us

940
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 4: when we were growing up, like one to five and

941
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: if you really go you're a blue chip okay, universal

942
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: tennis rating. So now it's like a system that's it's

943
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 4: an algorithm that balances your wins and losses and against

944
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 4: who you've won against and who. Like it's so intricate

945
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 4: and I'm just like so I hope not like I

946
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 4: want to immerse myself in some that I have no

947
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 4: idea about, Like do do like some footballs like I

948
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: I we yeah, do some football, some baseball, I don't know,

949
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 4: just something, but you he's gonna do something. But it's

950
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 4: just like I mean, and I'm not I use to

951
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 4: the fact of like he's around tennis.

952
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: Like there's no way, yeah he's not.

953
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: He's gonna or at.

954
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 4: Least be interested in it. But like, yeah, I'm definitely

955
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 4: not gonna push it. We like we're gonna do a

956
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 4: lot of things.

957
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: And you know earlier you did say you spoke to Naomi,

958
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: So do you feel like you have good friends when

959
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: it comes to other players.

960
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: Because you've been around tennis.

961
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like for me, I'm just very comfortable like with

962
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 4: having certain conversations. And I think now like before I

963
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 4: never spoke to Naomi, not any shade, but like we

964
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 4: just never spoke.

965
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: But after her.

966
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 4: Having a kid, like and coming back, like I made

967
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 4: it any one any player that comes back after having

968
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 4: a child, like I make it a point to at

969
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 4: least like congratulate them and say, like, great job for

970
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 4: coming back, because.

971
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 3: It's not easy.

972
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: How rare is that?

973
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 4: Well, it's becoming more and more like common, which I

974
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 4: think is amazing. And I feel very honored to be

975
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 4: a part of like kind of a trailblazer in that

976
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 4: way because like before, for if you had a child,

977
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure you know it's like you had

978
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 4: you in anything in corporate America, in business, in sports,

979
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 4: like you had to choose between your career and like

980
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: a family.

981
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: They make you feel like somebody is right there to

982
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: take your spat and you can't come.

983
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 4: Back, and so it's like and you can't exactly and

984
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 4: you can't come back, like and you can't return and

985
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 4: you can't be better. Like So that was always the

986
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 4: stigma and the feeling and it was kind of like unspoken,

987
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 4: but that's just what you felt like you had to

988
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 4: choose between this. It was always a this or that.

989
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 4: And I feel like now, especially in women's sports, like you,

990
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 4: there are a lot of moms out there. Yeah, and

991
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 4: it's amazing to see like multiple kids one kid maybe two,

992
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 4: like you know, and it's being able to like not

993
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 4: only like come back, but be better. So it's like

994
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 4: I feel very fortunate to be a part of this

995
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 4: because I just feel like it's showing like and inspiring

996
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 4: that like you can do it. Like it's not the

997
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 4: say all end all, be all.

998
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: I feel like you also liked to do what people

999
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: tell you can't.

1000
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: I do.

1001
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: I get that sense I do that is like that

1002
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: motivates me to know end.

1003
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: Nails are list So is this what your nails are

1004
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: going to be like next week? Okay?

1005
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: We like the US Open nails. I don't want you

1006
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: to see mine right now. It looks terrible.

1007
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: All right, it was great.

1008
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I appreciate you for taking time to come through,

1009
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: and we'll be watching your journey.

1010
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 4: You know.

1011
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be watching just for you and reporting on

1012
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: what's happening to.

1013
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 3: Come to a match. Right, Yes, I'm getting you on the.

1014
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: Spot, Kenny.

1015
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: It depends, all right, are we setting this up? Okay, listening,

1016
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: you got your Hollywood you know. But now, honestly, I'm

1017
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: really happy for you. I'm so glad that you had

1018
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: a chance when he asked me. We had to figure

1019
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: out how to make it happen for you to come

1020
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: up here. And anytime you want to come up here

1021
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: in any capacity. It doesn't even have to just be

1022
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: about tennis. Yeah, always welcome because you are a commentator officially,

1023
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: So thank you.

1024
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: It is what it is.

1025
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 3: I like the way my voice sounds on the market.

1026
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: It does sound good.

1027
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: It does sound good, all right, But Taylor Towns in

1028
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: we're going to be watching the US, so we'll be

1029
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: watching for you the person that everybody should want to

1030
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: stay away from. Nobody wants to face you, but we're

1031
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: going to see why it's way up, way up,