1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: So called rodeo queen, Crystal Lee Kinney, the other mistress 2 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: of so called killer fiance Patrick Frazy, on the stand, 3 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: insisting she had nothing to do with the murder of 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: twenty nine year old single mom Keltzie Beareth. Beareth a 5 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: beautiful young woman raising her baby girl and supporting her alone, 6 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: had just bought her own townhouse condo, was working as 7 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: a flight instructor, going about her life, trying to raise 8 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: her daughter, and then suddenly she drops off the map. 9 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: The only thing the cops find is a tooth, a 10 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: human tooth in the home well. A closer inspection reveals 11 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: a massive blood ledding in the home that had been 12 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: cleaned up by who the rodeo queen. I'm Nancy Grace. 13 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Patrick 14 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: Frazie is charged with killing Kelsey Barrett, his fiance and 15 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: mother of their child. The Woodland Park mom was last 16 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: seen on this safeway surveillance video on Thanksgiving Day. Prosecutors 17 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: say Phrasie blindfolded Kelsey to smell candles and guess the scent, 18 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: and then beat her to death with a baseball bat 19 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: and burned her body. Prosecutors told the jury this is 20 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: a case of a cold, calculated manipulator, and while showing 21 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: a photo of Frazie, called him the face of a killer. 22 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: We learned the trial hinges on cell phone records, price 23 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: amounts of blood, evidence, and testimony from Idaho nurse Crystal 24 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: Lee Kenny without a body. Crystal is the state's star witness. 25 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: She told investigators she tried to kill Kelsey three times 26 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: at Patrick's request, but couldn't go through with it. She says, 27 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: that's when Frazie took matters into his own hands and 28 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: she droves down from Idaho to clean up a bloody 29 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: mess in Kelsey's apartment. The defense is doing everything it 30 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: can to discredit Crystal and create reasonable doubts since much 31 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: of the evidence is circumstantial. Wow, you think you're lined 32 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: up for a romantic, sexy evening when your fiance says, 33 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: let me blindfollow you. I got you these special candles 34 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: and you pick the one you want, and instead you 35 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: get a Louisville slugger to the skull. Not only that, 36 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: according to prosecutors, their baby girl was in the next room. 37 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: Sure she doesn't know any of the facts now, she's 38 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: just taught. But what about when she goes online one day, 39 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: say you know, ten twelve years from now, and finds 40 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: out what happened to her mother, Keltzie Beareth And hey, 41 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: while I'm on it, the star witness my rear end 42 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: a rodeo queen turned killer who cheerfully cleaned up a 43 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: bloody crime. Then she's caught on surveillance at a drive 44 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: three primping and putting on lipstick and powder to go 45 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: meet the killer. Yeah. But as I used to tell juries, 46 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: when you got to put the devil in jail, sometimes 47 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: you gotta go to hell to get your witnesses. I 48 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: Meancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being 49 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: with us. You were just hearing our friend at ABC 50 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: den Verse seven. That was Jennifer Kovaleski man oh mana 51 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: Chevits what a trial is going on right now? And 52 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: with me an all star panel, And I mean that 53 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: renown criminal defense attorney out of New York, Ken Belkin, 54 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: Let the duel begin, Belkin with me. Kloyd Steiker thirty 55 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: six years, Seattle PD twenty two years, homicide detective, author 56 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: of Seattle's Forgotten serial killer. Gary Jean Grant, renowned psychoanalyst 57 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: out of LA and believe me, they got some problems 58 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: out there, Doctor Bethany Marshall with me, Director of the 59 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: Cold Case Togetive Research Institute, Cheryl McCullum, CSI expert. But 60 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: right now to investigate a reporter with Radar online dot 61 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: Com who's been on the case since the get go, 62 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: since Kelsey Barrett first went missing, Alexis Terrestac Alexis. As 63 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: we now have learned, Patrick Frazie, the so called killer fiance, 64 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: actually boasted nobody, no crime. What's happening in the courtroom 65 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: right now? So Patrick Frazie is getting skewered in the courtroom. 66 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: The prosecution is presenting so much evidence that a minute, 67 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: wait a minute, Why is that the first thing you say? 68 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: He's getting skewered? Normally people say that when an innocent 69 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: person is wrongfully being lambaston. What about the evidence is 70 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: pouring from the witness stand about the brutal murder of 71 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: twenty nine year old single mom Kelsey Barrett. Why is 72 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: he getting skewered? It's all true, isn't it? It is? 73 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. The prosecution is showing that they 74 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: have video evidence of him from the neighbor surveillance cameras 75 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: that showed that he was at her house the day 76 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: that he murdered her, and that he was seen going 77 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: inside and outside of her place eleven times. So the 78 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: prosecutions start out with the video evidence that they have. 79 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: They show Kelsey had been at the grocery store a 80 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: couple hours earlier, and then she goes into her house 81 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: with the baby. Waite a minute, waite a minute, waite 82 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: a minute? Are you telling me? Let me let me 83 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: understand what you just said. Patrick Frazy, the so called 84 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: killer fiancee, star star witness for the state, the single mom, 85 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: literally rodeo queen he had been also sleeping with. He 86 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: tries to get her to murder Kelsey Barrett three times. 87 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: Three times she seemingly agrees to murder Kelsey and then 88 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: backs out. See right there, I think that's a perfect 89 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: defense for Patrick Frazy to say she finally did it. 90 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: But long story short, that's the star witness that I 91 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: hear you say this is yes, Noah Lexus terres Chuck. 92 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: You know, reporters, especially the investigative ones, are almost as 93 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: bad as lawyers, because I've never known a lawyer that 94 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: can answer in one word, It's just impossible. Alexis Terreschik, 95 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: Did you just tell me that he Patrick Frasie went 96 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: in and out of the door eleven times. He was 97 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: caught in surveillance videos see ietology. She could not say 98 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: it in one word, just go ahead. He was caught 99 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: the neighbors how to sort of have a camera like 100 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: ring camera or nest whatever everybody has or adt and 101 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: that and it sets off. It set off by a 102 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: motion sensor, and that caught him Will first, it caught 103 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: her going into the house and with the baby, and 104 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: then he came in and out of that door eleven 105 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: times afterwards, and he came out at one point carrying 106 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: the baby, you know who never came out ever, Kelsey. 107 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: So I think what you're trying to say is yes. 108 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: And my point is, Cheryl McCallum, you know how much 109 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: I love my husband, Okay, David Lynch, But when he 110 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: comes home and he sits down in that chair, he 111 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: is not going to go in and out of the 112 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: door eleven times. That is not happening. He has worked 113 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: all day long, he has come home and that's that, Okay. 114 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean he might get up and go to the 115 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: dinner table, but there is no in and out eleven times. 116 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: That's not happening, Nancy. I think it's important to point 117 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: out he was identified, oh that surveillance eleven times, but 118 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: that camera activated twenty seven times and none of them 119 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: were the victim. To doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanis joining me 120 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: out of la way, and Bethany, well, it is a 121 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: little suspicious that he's coming in and out of another 122 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: person's apartment. What the heck is he doing. He obviously 123 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: has not invested his life in taking care of his 124 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: baby girl, who's one years old. He says he's her fiance, 125 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: but obviously there's no wedding plans. He has not been 126 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: available to her in any way. But now he's coming 127 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: in and out of the house. Yes, it is actually 128 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: a very suspicies and it's a deviation from his normal behavior. 129 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: He lives on a thirty five acre ranch, away from 130 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: his supposed fiance, away from his one year old baby daughter, 131 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: and he's arrears in terms of the child support. He 132 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: owed her seven hundred dollars in back support, so he 133 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: has not engaged with her in any way, and now 134 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: he's going in and out of the house. It's, yes, 135 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: very strange and not only that to Cloyd Steiger with 136 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: Me thirty six years, Seattle p d. Twenty two years 137 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: homicide and author A Seattle's Forgotten serial killer Gary Jane Grant, Cloyd, 138 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: I know that seven hundred dollars may not mean a 139 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: lot to some people. It means a lot to me. 140 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: But to some people there they may think, well, that's 141 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: not a motive for murder. But it's deeper than that, Clod. 142 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: It's the fact that when you have a baby and 143 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 1: you don't want to live with the baby, and you 144 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: don't want to support the baby, and you doll out 145 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: money begrudgingly. I mean, that's the last thing I want 146 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: to do, is be late on the twins doctor bill 147 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: or their Orthodonis bill or something they owe at the school. 148 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: That is the last thing I want to do, much 149 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: less pay for their actual support. Yeah, you know, I don't. 150 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: I don't remember what he did for a living, but 151 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: he didn't have a very high paying job, as I recall. 152 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: But the thing the last guest said is exactly right. 153 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: The deviation and behavior, that's the stuff you're looking for. 154 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: He did. You just refer to dodgr Bethany Marshall, renowned 155 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: psycholic as a girl. Okay, Cheryl mccollins, director of the 156 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: Cold Case Research Institute, the CSI expert that g I 157 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: R L No, I'm talking about you. We're gonna get 158 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: all of you at crime cord No. But the deviation 159 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: and behavior is the key in this The fact that 160 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: he's seen coming in and having that apartment so many times, 161 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: but in the previous it's never happened. And then just 162 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: all the odd behavior. And of course there's a lot 163 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 1: of other stuff in this case that points to it, 164 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: but the fact that he's plotted with this other girlfriend 165 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: of his to the rodeo queen, the rodeo queen. Man, 166 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm telling you what, Ken Balkin, I've saved the best 167 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: for last. Ken Belkin, Cremal defense attorney out of New York. 168 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: You know when they say, if you want something done, 169 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: just do it yourself, Because now this rodeo queen, the 170 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: other mistress is on the stand singing like a bird. 171 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: But I'm going to give you food for thought, something 172 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: to ruminate upon. Take a list of to our friends 173 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: at Denver nine, Alexandra Luis. A long week of testimony 174 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: in the Kelsey Barth case ended with a friend of 175 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Frazy. Taking the stand, he told the courtroom about 176 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: some of the disturbing things he heard Frazi say. Joseph 177 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: Moore says he's known fraz since middle school. They also 178 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: ran cattle together on in April of twenty sixteen, more 179 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: than a year and a half before she went missing. 180 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: Or said he was with Phrasie. Phrasie told him quote, 181 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: I figured out a way to kill her. No body, 182 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: no crime. Right days after Kelsey was reported missing, Phrasie 183 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: told More he didn't understand why her disappearance was getting 184 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: national attention. Moore also told the court that Phrasie said, 185 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: man if I had known it was going to blow 186 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: up this big, I never would have more says Phrasie 187 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: never really finished that thought. He also said Phrasie never 188 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: seemed concerned about Kelsey's disappearance. Police have not found Barrett's body. 189 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: They say Phrasie beat her with a baseball bat then 190 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: burned her body. In court today, prosecutors showed a tooth 191 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: fragment that was found in a burned area of Phrasie's property. 192 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: They did not show any testing about whether it belonged 193 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: to Barrett or not. Crime stories with Nancy Grace prosecutors 194 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: continue to lay out their case on day three of testimony, 195 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: and a plot with his ex girl friend and former 196 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: Idaho nurse Crystal Kenny. They argue Frazie beat Kelsey to 197 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: death with a baseball bat and then burned her body. 198 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: Kenny came forward to investigators after cutting a deal and 199 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: agreeing to testify a former lover who could make or 200 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: break the case. The state called five witnesses to the 201 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: stand Tuesday, a digital expert, Woodland Park police officer, furniture 202 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: store employee whose cameras captured Frazie's truck stayed investigator, and 203 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: Frazie's younger brother. Shaun Frazie is a Colorado Springs police officer. 204 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: He called Patrick's demeanor concerning during a phone call in 205 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: early December when he first learned Bareth was missing. As 206 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: he got off the stand, Frazie's brother looked at Patrick 207 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: and rolled his eyes, a plot twist appearing to show 208 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: some of Frazie's family members have turned against him. The 209 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: digital expert explained how investigators obtained surveillance video from Barras's neighbor. 210 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: It shows Frazy and Beareth leaving her Woodland Park condo 211 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: multiple times on the day of the murder. Prosecutors have 212 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: accused Phrasey of killing Bareth in her condo and putting 213 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: her body in a black tote bag in the back 214 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: of his truck. Frazy's attorneys stressed and none of the 215 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: images show Frazy carrying the black back The state investigator 216 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: come through other surveillance videos showing Freezy. Prosecutors focused in 217 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: on two key videos, one which shows the black tote 218 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: in the back of Freezie's truck and another three hours 219 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: later showing the same tote in a different position. This 220 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: is the state's strongest piece of evidence that Freezie put 221 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: Beret's body in the back. I'm thinking about Kelsey Beareth 222 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: at the young age of just twenty nine, a single mom. 223 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: She had a quote fiance, Patrick Frazie Air quote, but 224 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: he wasn't paying his child support. She had bought a 225 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: town home a condo all on her own. She was 226 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: a flight instructor, which is traditionally a field that is meldominated, 227 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: but that's her. That was her love, and she pursued 228 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: it and became an expert and was really setting an 229 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: example for her baby girl. She's dead, There's no doubt 230 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: about it, and I want you to take a listen 231 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: to what we learned in court. The trial is happening 232 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: right now or with around a dozen witnesses taking the 233 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: stand on this day two of Patrick Frazy's murder trial. 234 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: There was a really big theme that the prosecution was 235 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: trying to pursue. It's a deviation from normalcy. We heard 236 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: from those close to Kelsey, her family, her co workers, 237 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: who said they really noticed that the texts coming from 238 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: her phone after November twenty second, that is the day 239 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: that police believe that Phrasey killed Barrett. They say that 240 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: those texts were different, whether it's punctiation, word choice, that 241 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: sort of thing, it just didn't seem right. We also 242 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: heard from some of the Woodham Park police officers who 243 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: first responded to this call when it came in as 244 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: a miss in person case. When they walked through her home, 245 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: they said they really weren't looking for anything to suggest 246 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: that this was a murder. They were looking instead for 247 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: a sign of a disturbance, anything to suggest that something happened, 248 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: maybe perhaps that she committed suicide. They didn't see any 249 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: of that. Remember, it was her brother Clint, who had 250 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: come to town looking for her, who noticed that spot 251 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: of blood on the rim of the toilet December six. 252 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: He said, if you really were just looking at the bathroom, 253 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have sought it. He had to sit on 254 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: the toilets to see it. So just it's really they're 255 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: focusing on anything that's out of the normal, including some 256 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: neighbors surveillance footage. That is what we wrapped up court 257 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: with today. They saw Patrick Frazy according to a neighbors 258 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: surveillance camera about eleven times throughout November twenty second. Compare 259 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: that to just about three or four times that camera 260 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: hits on normal days. Wow. Our friend at ABC Denver seven, 261 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: that was Sam Kramer, Cheryl McCollum, forensics expert, director of 262 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: the Cold Case Research Institute, And let me tell you 263 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: she has been in the trenches on many, many, well 264 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: thousands of crime scenes. So where we first met on 265 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: a crime scene about three am in the morning. According 266 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: to her, Cheryl McCollum, what about it? The scene was 267 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: so cleaned up that only when you the brother came 268 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: to visit and sat down on the commode and noticed 269 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: some blood on the rim. When you just looked in 270 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: the bathroom, you saw nothing. And then he calls police 271 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: and they get in there with the white light and 272 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: they find probably luminol. To explain how it works, Sharon, 273 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: you have in bones in your blood and when luminol 274 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: hits it, they glow, They glow blue. Wait to tell me, Okay, 275 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: well wait, wait wait, Sharon McCollum, walk into the crime scene. 276 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: I want you to explain what we do when we 277 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: go into a crime scene and everything looks perfectly neat 278 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: and clean, except the brother has seen a speck of wood. Okay, 279 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: well what do you do? That bathroom would be my focus, 280 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: So I would turn all the lights out and I 281 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: would spray luminol everywhere the shower, the commode, the scene 282 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: like spraying hair. Spray exactly like a water bottle, like windeck, 283 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: So you spray the place is where you think the 284 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: blood would have gone and where somebody would have cleaned 285 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: up again, the shower, the tub, area of the drains, 286 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: the commode, the sink, and then of course the floor. 287 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: And then you're going to take photographs of that because 288 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna start to glow immediately and it's it's really 289 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: a tremendous tool and it's fascinating, but it also paints 290 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: the picture because when you clean, you sneer, But what 291 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: would be there would be the amount of you know, 292 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: this blue illuminating, just devilish example of what happened to her. 293 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: So again, when the witness that was on the stand, 294 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: the mistress says there was blood everywhere, I believe her. 295 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: A baseball bat you would have splatter. You would have 296 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: just on the ceiling, on the walls, on the floor, 297 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 1: on the commode, it would have been everywhere. And only 298 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: when the brother came in and sat down on the 299 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: commode and was just sitting there, he noticed the blood 300 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: on the rim. Nobody else had noticed it as a 301 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: matter of fact. Alex to rush Hut, investigative reporter Radar 302 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: online dot com, Alexis, tell me about the crime scene, 303 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: what is alleged that happened, and where was blood ultimately found? 304 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: So just in this bathroom, and this was her condo 305 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: that she lived in, that she'd been spending she was 306 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: making Thanksgiving dinner for Patrick, which also I just want 307 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: to point out, you know, her mom testified and she 308 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: said she never knew that they were broken up. Patrick's 309 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: telling everybody they're broken up, his family and everybody. The 310 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: mom says, no, they weren't. They weren't broken up at all. 311 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: He was lying to everybody all the time. But the 312 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: crime scene didn't even look like a crime scene. It 313 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: probably looked like an absolutely perfect house. You know why, 314 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: because he had his mistress come and clean it up. 315 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: This The only thing that maybe was a little weird 316 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: was there were cinnamon rolls that were on the stove 317 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: that had looked like they had never been eaten. And 318 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: there was a candle that was burning that was really, 319 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: really really burning. And nobody would ever leave a candle 320 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: like that in their house. It would be too dangerous. 321 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at dr Fox thirty one. 322 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: Just a few moments after Krystal Lee continued her second 323 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: day of testimony, she began to cry. She had been 324 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: handed several photographs of Kelsey Barrett's condo, which she had cleaned. 325 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: Lee went on to say, I saw blood all over 326 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: the floor and all over the wall. Her belongings were 327 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: covered in blood. More tears began rolling down her face 328 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: when Kelsey Barrett's baby grow Cayley appeared on a large 329 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: screen above the jury box, and when she was asked 330 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: to describe a couch she had wiped down. Patrick Frazie 331 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: leaned back in his chair. Chrystal Lee, his mistress, pleaded 332 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: guilty to moving Barrett's cell phone and attempting to thwart 333 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: the investigation. Her testimony part of the plea deal. She 334 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: said today, Phrasie told her to text from Barrett's phone 335 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: after she was dead, saying he wanted to make it 336 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: look like she was still alive. Lee told the court 337 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: today that she was present when he started the fire 338 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: in which Barrett's body was burned. Phrasie's attorney pointed out 339 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: that Lee had not told the truth until a plea 340 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: agreem was made. He said, that's a story you had 341 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: to tell agents to get your plea deal. Lie said, 342 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: I had to tell them the truth. Crime stories with 343 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Lee testified that Phrasie told her he beat 344 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: his fiance to death with a baseball bat on Thanksgiving 345 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: Day and that Barrett's last words were please stop. After 346 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: the murder, Li says Phrasie called her and said she 347 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: had a mest to clean up. Crystallie says when she 348 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: walked into Kelsey Beart's townhome, she saw blood everywhere. She 349 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: was cleaning up. This match of crime scene. Lee claimed 350 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: she drove from Idaho to Colorado and cleaned up the 351 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: crime scene because Phrasie told her to and she feared 352 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: for her life. A few days after the murder, Lie 353 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: says she watched this Phrasey burned a black tote bag 354 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: that he told her contained Brett's body and the baseball bat. 355 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: More than twenty witnesses have been called to the stand 356 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: so far. Earlier this week, a prosecution expert testified that 357 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: a neighbor's surveillance camera captured Freezy eleven times at Barrett's 358 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: condo the day she disappeared. The defense argued, it's not 359 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: clear if the person was Freezy at this very hour. 360 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: The murder trial of the so called killer fiance, Patrick 361 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: Frasye goes on in Cripple Creek, Colorado. We have been 362 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: hearing from a forensic expert on the stand. Phrasey, thirty three, 363 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: charged with murdering the mother of his only child last 364 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day. Her blood Kelsey's blood found all around the home, 365 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: along with a woman's tooth. Reportedly Kelsey Beareth beating so 366 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: badly with the baseball bat it knocked her teeth out. 367 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: Witness is also testifying about how Phrasey had bad mouth 368 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: trashed Beareth who was his fiance. It was also revealed 369 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: in court Phrasie was beneficiary on her life insurance policy. 370 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: A large blood stain discovered on the hardwood floor in 371 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: the living room which matches Kelsey Bareth, indicating that that 372 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: is where the initial attack begin. Blood all around the home. However, 373 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: welcome back, High Nancy Grace. This is crime Stories. Thank 374 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: you for being with me. Straight out to Ken Belkin, 375 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: veteran criminal defense attorney out of New York. Ken Belkin, 376 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: if you're defending this case and your client is bragging 377 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: to friends nobody, no crime, what do you do? What's 378 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: your defense? Look, you're gonna have to explain away a 379 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: ton of circumstantial evidence, and that's case being some circumstantial 380 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: evidence and to a lesser part, hearsay testimony, which is 381 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: being allowed in under various exceptions. So you've got a 382 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: lot of explain. You're gonna be twisting in the window. 383 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: It's twisting in the wind, you well, and the reality is, 384 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: you know you'd have to try everything you can to 385 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: just came her home. But like no one actually saw him, dudas. 386 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: You don't have a body, you don't have actual evidence 387 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: of death. But you know They've got evidence of a 388 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: lot of other things that when you put the pieces together, 389 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: it equals one conclusion. Really well, in my mind, their 390 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: best bet, not that I believe that is true, is 391 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: to blame Crystal Lee Kenny, the rodeo queen he was 392 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: having another affair with. I mean, come on, please, doctor Bethany, 393 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: throw belk in a phone here for Pete's sake. A 394 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: guy calls you on the phone and says, hey, you 395 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: got a mess to clean up. And she drives all 396 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: the way from Idaho to Colorado, cleans up a bloody 397 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: crime scene, finds a human tooth, and then does the 398 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: drive through to get some fast food. And you see 399 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: you're putting on makeup and primping in the mirror to 400 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: go hook up with the Seriously, oh yeah, I would 401 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: totally blame her Nancy. Of course, you know, there is 402 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: there's a whole psychology to women who align themselves with criminals, thieves, murders, 403 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: fall in love with them, and then conspire with them 404 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: to get another lover out of the way. On some level, 405 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: she was under his firm control, but on another level, 406 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: she hated breaths. They were probably in some paranoid way 407 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: constantly obsessing about breathe breaths, taking our money. She's not 408 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: you know, she's doting on the child and not giving 409 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: you attention. You know, she has this great life. What 410 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: is she doing for you? I mean they have aligned 411 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: themselves in a very paranoid way against her. What I 412 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: mean about that is they become obsessed about what she's 413 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: doing to them. They have no cognisance or concern about 414 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: how they're about to treat her. And it almost seems 415 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: like this we could recast this as some kind of 416 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: a love triangle where Crystal Lee is in love with Crazy, 417 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: wants to get the love rival out of the way, 418 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: and she'll do anything anything to say of him. Not 419 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: only is she under his firm control, but she hates 420 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: this other woman. I mean, willing to go clean up 421 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: a bloody crime scene. Take Kelsey Barra's telephone or cell phone, 422 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: drive it hours and hours away, throws it off the 423 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: side of the road to make it look like she 424 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: herself threw it away, and we're out to see her family. 425 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, take a listen to Jennifer 426 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: Kobaleski Alfred at ABC Denver seven. Frazy's attorney compared the 427 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: case to buying a house, telling the courtroom it looks 428 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: good from the outside, it looks like it's all there. 429 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: When you really start hearing all the evidence, there are 430 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: deep foundational issues, they say. Crysteal like to investigators multiple 431 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: times and only told her tale left she she hired 432 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: an attorney and needed deal with prosecutors. Crystal is facing 433 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: up to three years in prison, but she won't be 434 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: sentenced until after she testifies against Frazy, and the trial 435 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: is expected to last for several weeks. The jury is 436 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: made up of seven women and five men who will 437 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: now decide the fate of Frasy. We have very high 438 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: restrictions on the media. The judge has ruled that we 439 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: cannot have a camera in the courtroom. There can be 440 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: no photography in the courtroom, no sketches in the courtroom, 441 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: and so that is why you are getting the information 442 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: after we leave the courtroom. We also are not able 443 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: to report any information as it's happening in the courtroom, 444 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: which means there's no tweeting, there's no Facebook. We have 445 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: to be in court, come outside the courthouse, and that 446 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: is when we then can relay the information out to 447 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: you guys in the public and to our teams back 448 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: at the station. Because the judge has said he is 449 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: very concerned about making sure that Phrasy has a fair trial, 450 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: and that is why he has decided to restrict the media. Hey, hey, hey, 451 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: don't get bad at the judge. Yes, I'd love to 452 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: have a camera in the courtroom. Yes, I'd love to 453 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: rush out on the courthouse steps. He tweet and Facebook 454 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: and instagram what's happening. But the judge and the judge's 455 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: mind believes this will secure the trial because if there's 456 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: a conviction, you do not want a reversal in phrasey 457 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: to walk free on some flimsy excuse. And oh, I mean, 458 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: come on, doctor Bethany helped me out. She wasn't his 459 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: only woman on a side. He had Kelsey Barrett, he 460 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: had Crystal Lee Kinney. And then multiple other women have 461 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: come forward claiming he was asking them out, was sleeping 462 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: them with him, was flirting with them. I mean, what 463 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: is it about him? He's not all that and dim sum, 464 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: no he's not. And he lives with his mother. He's 465 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: a lonely white guy living with his mom out on 466 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: a lonely ranch. I mean, what's the draw. I don't 467 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: get it well, Nancy, let's think about the profile of 468 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: the sociopath. Promiscuity, multiple sexual partners, failure to pay back 469 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: debts to society. He wouldn't even give her seven hundred 470 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: dollars in child support, a parasitic lifestyle. He's living off 471 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: his mother. I'm not sure he owned that thirty five 472 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: acre ranch. She probably owned it. Hey did it? He 473 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: did not, The mom owned it. Mom owned it. So 474 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: he's in a parasitic relationship, playing by their own rules 475 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: rather than the rules of society. He's just doing whatever 476 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: he wants. He's just freewheeling. He's calling her a fiance, 477 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: but he's not even raising their child together. So this 478 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: guy is completely going his own way. And I would 479 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: imagine that all of these women he's asking out if 480 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: not only driven by promiscuity, but he wants to control women. 481 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: He wants to get whatever he wants whenever he wants it. 482 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: And probably, as with the case with most of these men, 483 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: he probably had a jealous dreak feeling that breath was 484 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: cheating on him, so he was always evening the score 485 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: by cheating on her. Because that's I believe me. She 486 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: was not cheating. She was working every day to pay 487 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: for that condo she moved into with her baby girl. 488 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: She was the sole support for the baby. Whoa, I hear, Cheryl, 489 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: And again, Cheryl, I'm not saying it's all about a 490 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: man having money, not at all. It's about a guy 491 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: being faithful and loyal and being involved in your life 492 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: and taking care of the baby. I mean, you know what, 493 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: I like to complain about David just for the fun 494 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: of it. You know what, He's the greatest guy I've 495 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: every He takes care of the children, he's supportive. You know, 496 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: it's not all jealous and crazy. I mean, I don't 497 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 1: get why she liked this guy so much, chanty. Doctor 498 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall was a whole lot smarter than me. But 499 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm fixing a break this down. This guy's a piece 500 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: of shit and the women can't see it because they 501 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: want to be stupid. And I mean that you've got 502 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: not one woman, but two. So let's take the victim. 503 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: Bless her soul. He was never gonna marry her, and 504 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: she needed one family member or one real good friend 505 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: to tell her the truth. We are so worried about 506 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: hurting somebody's feelings or making somebody angry. We just go 507 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: on and go, oh, I'm sure he's grave. This is fabulous. 508 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: He works on a ranch, and y'all are engaged that 509 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: she didn't have a ring. She went nine months and 510 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: had a baby, no marriage. There was a time you 511 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't even be suing yet before there was a marriage 512 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: in place. He wasn't trying to marry her. He was 513 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: stringing her a wall. Hold on. Let me just say 514 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: a quick little story. When my grandmother got married Lucy 515 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: that I named my daughter after the night before her wedding, 516 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: she went out with Soon the next day be my grandfather. 517 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: He brought her home. He kissed her on the cheek 518 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: on the porch. The next day was their wedding. Literally, 519 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: she walked in and my great grandmother was standing there 520 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: and she said, well, I saw you kiss him. Now, 521 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: what if he doesn't marry you, what are you going 522 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: to do? Now? Okay, let's go out on, Matt, we'll 523 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: come back in and I'll fight with Belkin n Chloye 524 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Crystal Lee's story was damning 525 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: and chilling, but the jury must decide if it is true. 526 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: Holding back tears, she detailed a long relationship with Patrick 527 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: Frazy one point getting pregnant by him. I guess you 528 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: are a baby killer or not, she claimed Phrasie told her. 529 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: Lee said she then got an abortion and prepared divorce 530 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: papers in order to be with Phrasie. Later she learned 531 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: he already had a daughter with another woman, Kelsey Bareth. 532 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: He wanted her not to be a problem anymore. He 533 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: wanted her dad. Lee told the court Phrasie had her 534 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: bring a poisoned Starbucks drink to Bareth, but she didn't 535 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: taint the drink. Next, Lee said Phrasie wanted her to 536 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: kill Barett using a pipe, then another time with a bat, 537 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: but each time she backed out. It was Thanksgiving two eighteen. 538 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: Kelsey Bareth was last seen on this grocery store security video. 539 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: That night, Lee said Phrasie called her and said that 540 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: I had a mess to clean up. Wow, you are 541 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: hearing our friend Rick Salinger CBS four there in Denver. 542 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: The trial is happening right now. Thank you for being 543 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: with us. I Nancy graces his crime story. So Ken Belkin, 544 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: new York criminal defense attorney. He's won a lot of case. 545 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: Is no stranger to a courtroom. You know a lot 546 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: of lawyers that claim their trial lawyers they'll do anything 547 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: to work the case out, to get a settlement, to 548 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: take a plea because they absolutely are afraid to just 549 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: stand up, strike a juryan and go to trial. Not 550 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,479 Speaker 1: true with Belkin. I mean, this woman that was willing 551 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: to divorce her husband have an abortion of her baby. 552 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: And I'm not commenting on a woman's right to have 553 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: an abortion. That's neither here nor there. What I'm saying 554 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: is she went through a lot to be with Patrick Frazy, 555 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: knowing he's got Kelsey Beareth and a baby. I mean, 556 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: it was like she drank the kool aid in my mind, 557 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: Ken Belkin, I mean, she's the perfect scapegoat for him, 558 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: Not that I think she did it, of course, but 559 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: I think they both should have been tried for murder. 560 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: She went through a lot, certainly, maybe she went through 561 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: so much so that she helped kill another woman with him, 562 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: or of her own volition by herself. The reality is 563 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,959 Speaker 1: you do have to hit her hard. You gotta hit 564 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: her hard for her cooperation with the District Attorney's office, 565 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: you got it. Hit her hard for the fact that 566 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: she might be receiving some consideration and her a sentence 567 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: in her own case through this test of money, and 568 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: you gotta hit her head for the fact that she 569 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: did not like this woman, she was herself jealous of 570 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: her and would have a very strong moting to take 571 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: an action such as this. You know, Ken, I know 572 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: this is hard to believe, but sometimes it's difficult to 573 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: really light into a witness and really destroy them on 574 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: cross examination, because I really don't think it's some people, 575 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 1: most people's nature to just be cruel. But when it 576 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: comes down to it and you want a true vert 577 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: and you believe in your case, you gotta get in 578 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: there and you have to take them down, even if 579 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: it means you go down with him. You got to 580 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: take that witness down. Belcon. Look, you don't want to leave. 581 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: There's a way to do things, and there's a way 582 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 1: you can approach it in a nice, non hostile manner. 583 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: Just very matter of fact, I don't even know what 584 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: you're talking about. Not allstyle matter. When you got somebody 585 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: on cross exam, you have to destroy no no, no 586 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: scorched earth policy. Sorry, Belcon. Yeah, but you don't want 587 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: to look like a jerk in front of the jury. Well, 588 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: that's true. A woman that's traumatized. What uh, Kelsey Barrett 589 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: is dead. She was beaten so badly her teeth were 590 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: knocked out of her mouth with her baby in the 591 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: next room. Or last words were please stop and this cool. 592 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: You know us we're not to curse anymore after the 593 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: twins were born. But you're really pushing me belcin Kloyd Steiger. 594 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: Can you help me out here? Throw me a life 595 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: or out help me? Well, I mean, this guy has 596 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: just wrapped himself in so many knots. And she's she's 597 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: the big one, of course, but all this statements to 598 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: his other friends and you know, telling everybody that they're 599 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,959 Speaker 1: they're broken up, when she's she's texting them about what's 600 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: for dinner that night and things like that. This guy just, 601 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you know what, I'm glad you said that, Cloyd, 602 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: because that one detail. I mean, I'm already working We're 603 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 1: gonna have um a Lynch Thanksgiving party at the house 604 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: with my husband's family. We're gonna have a Grace Thanksgiving 605 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: meal at the house. I'm already working on what would 606 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: they like? Well, how can I make it so it's 607 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: delicious and have a great meal? And here she was. 608 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: The last call she made that we know of was 609 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: to her mother. She's going into the safe way. I 610 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: think it was grocery store with her baby in the 611 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 1: in the in the cart, the grocery cart. How many times, ladies, 612 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: have you been right there and they're just grabbing things 613 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: off the shelves like little monkeys. That's what my twins 614 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: would do, would have all kinds of stuff in the 615 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: card that I didn't know about. It's planning his meal 616 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: for that night, and that fact just just breaks my heart. 617 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: While he's planning to murder her and this child, Alexis 618 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: terres Chuck going to grow up without this mom. This 619 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: mom and a flight instructor, buys her own condo, making 620 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: it work, making that car payment, taking care of the baby, 621 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: fixing Thanksgiving dinner. I just want to cry. I want 622 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: to cry, Alexis. And so he took this baby after 623 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: he kills her, he takes the baby, goes to his parents' 624 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: house with the baby, and then her parents don't get 625 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: to see this child for weeks because he's just acting 626 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: like nothing's wrong in his family. His own brother says, 627 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, he was three hours late for our Thanksgiving dinner. 628 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: He brings the baby, he starts making the two of 629 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: them dinner, and he tells us well that they're sharing custody, 630 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: and nobody in his own family questioned this right away. 631 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: Nobody calls the police and says, my brother seems to 632 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: have a child that he's never had before ever, and 633 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: so her mom had to beg herself. You know, they 634 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: have to come down. The brother had to come down 635 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: and begged the police to investigate because they were they 636 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: had no access to this little baby. So alexis Toreschuk. 637 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: We also know Kenny the Rodeo Queen testified about the 638 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: day she took law enforcement to Patrick Phrasey's property. She 639 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: says Phrasie buried burned Keltsi's body and that his mother, Sheila, 640 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 1: came out while it was burning. He just turned around 641 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: and went back inside. Now, cell phone records, including Kenny's 642 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: using Kelsey's phone to make it seem like Keltzi was 643 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: still alive. She's up to it, to her eyeball, she's 644 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: up to her elbows and alligators. Alexis, what's happening now? 645 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: What's going to happen? So the prosecution is still presenting witnesses, 646 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: and they're still showing the one the witness that we 647 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: just heard the recording of he did. He testified that 648 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: Patrick had been talking for years about killing her. He said, 649 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, it was if there's nobody, there's no crime, 650 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,280 Speaker 1: and he said this repeatedly even after she went missing. 651 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: He said this to several people. Nobody, no crime. So 652 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: he was absolutely arrogant in his thoughts that he was 653 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: going to get away with this and this Crystal the mistress, 654 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: you know, you said all these things that happened with them, 655 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: and he never married her. She had an abortion with 656 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: his baby. He also asked her to murder the girl 657 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 1: three times, and she tried two times. She actually showed 658 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: up at her house to Kelsey's house with poison in 659 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: a coffee cup, but that's what he told her to do, 660 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: but she said she got too scared so she didn't 661 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: do it. And Kelsey thought it was really weird that 662 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: this woman just showed up and was like, oh hi, 663 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: here's some coffee. Just the strangest things, and he was 664 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: so manipulative. And that's what the police have been trying 665 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: to do, is trying to find the evidence that she 666 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: finally confessed. I'm not buying what the mistress is selling 667 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: because I'm looking at her to drive through. Right now 668 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: you can see it at crime online dot com. Primping 669 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: and fixing her hair and her lipstick in her makeup, 670 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 1: just after cleaning up a bloody crime scene and on 671 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,720 Speaker 1: her way to see the so called kill her fiancee. 672 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing 673 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: off goodbye friend,