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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Fantasy Flex podcast from

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Speaker 1: the Action Network and Fantasy Left. I'm your host, Chris

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Speaker 1: raybon NFL Week five is here. We got our player

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Speaker 1: projections episode. I'm joined by one of the most accurate

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Speaker 1: rankers in the game, the odds maker, Sean Kerner. Sean,

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Speaker 1: how's it going?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Did you just see the breaking news that

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Speaker 2: So the Joe Flack area for now is over?

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Speaker 1: So I actually did not see that. We just happened

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago that look to his rookie year, right,

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, the Browns are I mean the they had

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Speaker 1: but we'll get into our player projections. Our car will

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Speaker 1: we'll go skill position by skill position. Top five guys

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Speaker 1: our week four Cardio Kings, which are the guys who

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Speaker 2: But that's that's why I'm not setting it over fifty.

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Speaker 2: All right? So I got, oh, Jonathan Taylor number one easily,

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Speaker 2: We'll see. I got James Cook, Devon h Chan, and

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Speaker 2: They're gonna need him this week.

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Speaker 1: You had Cook?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no giving up on that. I just mainly boost

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Speaker 2: great that Benson gets a breather on those. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we talked about in the Touchdown Show

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing with Walker is he's still one of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Walker's just a volato back. I think that's what

432
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: it is. You know, You're just gonna have to kind

433
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 1: of get used to that. I'm all on JK. Dobbins,

434
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 1: and again, the matchup isn't that scary, but I do

435
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: think that there are some red flags, just given we

436
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: know Sean Payton's already unpredictable, and if you they're still

437
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: using three backs, and if you're high at Harvey, I

438
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 1: think you have to kind of be a little bit

439
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: low on Dobbins. And one of the things that was

440
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,239
Speaker 1: concerning to me is, yeah, you know it was it

441
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 1: was a blowout, but he only out snapped Harvey by three.

442
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: But in the past the game, you know, Harvey fifteen routes,

443
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 1: one pass block, Dobbin's twelve routes, six pass blocks. So

444
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, now if they're behind, you know, is Dobbin's

445
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 1: just seeing more of that pass, like you know, kind

446
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: of picking up butitzing butitzers and pass rushers anyway, and

447
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: then the carries were seventeen thirteen. So there's a chance

448
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: that you know this, if this game script goes wrong,

449
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 1: Dobbins is just in for all the wrong like the

450
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: wrong snaps and tyre bday seven pass routes just one

451
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 1: blocking snap, which you'd expect him to have more, just

452
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: because he's usually in on you know, obvious passing situations,

453
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: third downs or whatnot. So overall, just not a great situation.

454
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,239
Speaker 1: I know he did have one hundred yard game, but

455
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't I think it'll be a hard press to

456
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: to follow that up. All right, running back prop, let's see,

457
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: let's go h Walker rus sharbonet actually and half PPR points. Okay,

458
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: I'll make I'll make Walker a two and half point favorite.

459
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Let's see. I hate to do it.

460
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go with Walker here. Sharps is

461
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 2: my boy. But yeah, I got a closer like three

462
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: and a half. Okay, Yeah, maybe maybe they just dump

463
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: it off to Walker a little bit more to get

464
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 2: around that uh tough defense. So I think his receiving

465
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: upside might be a little bit higher here, but yeah,

466
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 2: Charbona is there to you know, vulture the short yardage work,

467
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: touchdowns and some of the passing works. So yeah, I

468
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: think it's closer than people think, but I'll still take

469
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: Walker here.

470
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's interesting just because it's so violent.

471
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: So like if he you know, gets a couple of

472
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: those like lost yardage on his runs, is does he

473
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: have enough receiving work to overtake it? I guess the questions. Yeah, Yeah,

474
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: it's an interesting one. It's gonna be a tough projection

475
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: probably all year, to be honest. All right, let's go

476
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: to wide receiver. Who you got in your top five

477
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: for week five?

478
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: Sean pure chaos at wide receiver, just absolutely mayhem, But

479
00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: there's no dispute who's number one. I got Pokiko, like

480
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 2: four points higher than a Monra who's still he's having

481
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: incredible year as well. He's four points higher than that.

482
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: And then uh A Mana and Jackson Smith Njigba is

483
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 2: like the Spider Man meme pointing at each other. I

484
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 2: think they're the same player at this point. And then

485
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: I have George Pickens wide receiver four and Xavier Worthy

486
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: wide receiver five, so very spicy top five this week.

487
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, that's I mean. The funny thing is,

488
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 1: I think he sent me a text of like at

489
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 1: one pointing to the Cardio King. He was a he

490
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 1: had like a rush attempt, right, but he wasn't getting there.

491
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 2: Five minutes left in the third quarter, he had zero catches,

492
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 2: but he had three carries for like twelve yards. I

493
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: tagged Yahoo Fantasy even was begging them to add a

494
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: running back eligible to him, and then sure enough he

495
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 2: caught what five balls in the last twenty minutes of

496
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: the game. But yeah, there's there was a brief moment

497
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 2: where JSN is going to be the Cardio King. What

498
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: were the odds of it at like, you know, five one? Right?

499
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think most teams don't really want

500
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: to run on Tampa Bay too much, so I think

501
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: he'll probably see, uh, he'll probably see a lot more

502
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: work early in the game this week. But yeah, I

503
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: got I got Nikola mon Roge, JSN number three, Justin

504
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: Jefferson and Garrett Wilson receiver. So yeah, it's spicy anyway

505
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: you look at it.

506
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 2: But uh, all right, do you have any other interesting guys?

507
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 2: In your top ten because I have like Debobuka ted

508
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it's insane.

509
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Buka Buka's definitely in there. Uh, Pickens might might Yeah,

510
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: Pickens probably gonna be in there. Debo's like, right, we

511
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: gotta see what's going on in Washington. But yeah, Deebo Yeah,

512
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: if it's the same situation as last week receiver wise, Debo, yeah,

513
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: Debo's in or should be in as well. Who are

514
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: you high on?

515
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: I'm high on Chris Godwin against the Seahawks, But you know,

516
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: I thought he was gonna ease in. I project. I

517
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: don't know what you had him out. I had him

518
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: like thirty five forty routes run rate last week. Nope,

519
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 2: ninety percent routes run rate. So they just unleashed him.

520
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: Zero setbacks, whatsoever, zero limitations, I should say, And he

521
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: saw a twenty five percent target rate, but he only

522
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 2: caught three balls for twenty six yards. He left a

523
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: lot of meat on the bone. I think he had

524
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: one of the highest air yards of the week. But

525
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: once again, you know, Mike Evans is out this week.

526
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 2: Bucky Irving looks questionable right now, so who knows if

527
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: he shoots up? So I think Godwin. The underlying usage supports,

528
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 2: you know, a five catch type game coming up here,

529
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: So like him a lot. This week, he was lining

530
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 2: up outside a lot more so we might see fewer catches,

531
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: maybe more downfield targets for him, so he could be

532
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: more volatile than than we're used to seeing. I think

533
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 2: Abuka is the mand in this offense obviously, but I

534
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: think Godwin sneaky is like a mid range wide receiver too.

535
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: I have him as my wide receiver eighteen to open

536
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: the week, and then the other guy. I just want

537
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: to talk it out him as Isaiah Bond against the Vikings.

538
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 2: But you know, he's the rookie the brown scooped up.

539
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 2: He was. He was expected to be a potential. Some

540
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: people thought he was like a first round talent to

541
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: the draft. Yeah, like second third round at worst. But

542
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: he went undrafted because he was dealing with legal issues

543
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: that have been fully resolved, I believe. So the brown

544
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 2: scooped him up. Of course after that, yeah, yeah, everybody

545
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: was making fun of him, but you know, things got

546
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: resolved shortly after they added him, I believe. So now

547
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: they have this, you know, really good rookie wide receiver

548
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: who had been seeing an uptick in usage at the

549
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: expense of Cedric Tillman, I think the last couple of weeks.

550
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: But now with Tillman out at least this week and

551
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: potentially beyond, and now they're you know, benching Flacco for Gabriel,

552
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: I think they're going to really want to evaluate these rookies.

553
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: So I think Bond's going to see a ton of

554
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: work this week. He had three catches fifty eight last week.

555
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: But again, you have a guy that just he does

556
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: have a lot of talent. Just because he went undrafted

557
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that, you know, he's some scrubs. So he's

558
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: a wide receiver fifty five for me this week, So

559
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: you know, he's not like a WIVERUS three wide receiver

560
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 2: three option, but someone we got to consider in DFS

561
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: props and then long term season long formats. Who knows

562
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: like he could become a wide receiver three type at

563
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: some point. But he's a guy where the needle is

564
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: definitely pointing up. And I don't think enough people you know,

565
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: are talking about him, But just wanted to give a

566
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: shout out to, you know, Isaiah Bond. His sock is

567
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: going way up right now.

568
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like a touchdown bet too, because oh

569
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: absolutely he's I noticed that. Yeah, he was. You know,

570
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: even I would say even I think it was week one,

571
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: just he he hadn't really had much, he hadn't been

572
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: in camp much or anything. You know, they he got

573
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: more usage than I thought, and he was kind of

574
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: swiitting snaps with Jamari Thrash and then as a year progressed,

575
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: he started just taking steps away from Tillman. So yeah,

576
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: this is the guy that I think they really want

577
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: to get the ball. So it's kind of like uh, Judkins,

578
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: where you know, like he might have eased in that

579
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: first week, but it escalated very quickly with him. And

580
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see something similar with Bond now

581
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: that you're especially with you know, I'm sure him and

582
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: Gabriel have more practice time again, right you.

583
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: Would think then, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And you know I

584
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: think he was he was at it so late. I

585
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: don't think he even played until like week four, the

586
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: last week of the preseason. Yeah, and yeah, but he's

587
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: he's probably getting a ton of work with Gabriel and

588
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: the second unit, So yeah, they probably already have a

589
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: ton of chemistry. So I think going to Gabriel you

590
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: know that the overall passing yards and a test might

591
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: go down, but for someone like Bond it might might

592
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: help him out.

593
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: So is that is? Uh, what are your odds now

594
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: for like anor Sanders apperiod in the next like two weeks?

595
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: Is it's flat? The number two number of three.

596
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say, h David and Joker

597
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: getting traded away, that's gotta go now, that's gotta be

598
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: over fifty percent. But yeah, I think Gabriel he was

599
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: a mixed bag. I think he has, you know, pretty

600
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: limited upside. I think I think we see Shador at

601
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: some point. I would I would think Gabriel gets at

602
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: least till midway, like he'll be starting until like week

603
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: eight or nine. Then at that point maybe we see

604
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: should or what do you think? I mean, it's who

605
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: the hell knows?

606
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: I really, I'm kind of because I don't. I didn't

607
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: see any news because usually sometimes you get that news

608
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,479
Speaker 1: with the quarterback who's gonna start, and it's like, okay,

609
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: you know it's like Flaco is gonna be the emergency

610
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: guy or is he going to be the Oh yeah,

611
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: I don't think I saw anything with that yet, So yeah,

612
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: I would I think Shaudor is still ways off. I

613
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: would say, you know, next two weeks maybe no, But

614
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: I do think we see him and he makes starts

615
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,719
Speaker 1: this year because it sounded like it was a mandate

616
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: from the Browns owner and the fact that they're just

617
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: kind of pivoting here when I don't think it was that.

618
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Flacco did throw that bad interception last week.

619
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: He just floated it up like pop up to third

620
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: base that that just got picked off. Yeah, easily by

621
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: the lines. But yeah, I I mean was bad in

622
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: in in in most of the preseasons. So yeah, I

623
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: think I think Gabriel will get a shot, but it

624
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: really depends if he's gonna be the is gonna be

625
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: the backup. I think that that would be more likely

626
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: that he gets in the game sooner than later. But

627
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: Flaco is still gonna be the the backup then then yeah,

628
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: I think is still gonna be Yeah, he's still but

629
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: kind of weak, tennish kind of guy.

630
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a bye week nine. Uh, and this

631
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: is kind of a brutal start to have Gabriel debut

632
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: right against Flores. I mean, no, yeah, it's good. It's

633
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: gonna be tough for him. So they're they're you know,

634
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: putting in a very bad spot that reseas too right overseas, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

635
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say the Vikings are the team that have

636
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: been there. The Browns just played where we're in Detroit,

637
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: so yeah, now they got to mavel. It's Detroit overseas.

638
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: Flores Flores Is, you know, has all week to scheme

639
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: up a game plan to attack the South Paw rookie.

640
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: So hopefully he doesn't get robbed.

641
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm a white backup quarterback got robbed in Dublin, Thompson.

642
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: Have you had up doing? You didn't hear about that?

643
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: The tickers even like on the games, like it was like,

644
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: you know they have the scores, like on the ticker,

645
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: it was like Skyra Thompson gets robbed, beaten. But I

646
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: kept flashing across.

647
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: Usually yeah, usually I'm the one telling you that I

648
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: did not know that. That's crazy.

649
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know that a yeah, man, so hopefully different.

650
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: Uh this is this is not Doublin anymore. So I

651
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: hope I don't know.

652
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what stadium.

653
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: Some hoods though, man, I think it was Dame dashtold

654
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: a story about how like they like, like some of

655
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: his Rockefeller artists went to lent there and they just

656
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: like took their change and I started like, yeahs out

657
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: there too, man, hopefully hopefully were good.

658
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh so he has a new left tackle on

659
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: Cam Robinson. Yeah, but technically Jack Conklin's his blind side

660
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: blocker at right tackle and he so, I mean, they're

661
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: just putting him in a bad situation. Hopefully Conkland can

662
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: suit up, but this is this is a rough, rough

663
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: debut for rookie.

664
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: Maybe the maybe he won't have Maybe he'll get to

665
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: skip a few skip a few drives. If the defense

666
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: just scores.

667
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: That definitely possible against Carson Wentz or whoever they have

668
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: under center this week.

669
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm high on who we got. Oh yeah, I'm

670
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: just a couple of guys who are kind of benefiting

671
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: from injuries here, Wandale Robinson and Jaylen Wattle. Wandale for

672
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: the Giants, you know, Jackson Dart quarterback but league neighbors

673
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: unfortunately out. And then Jaymon Wattle tyree Ko same thing,

674
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: you know, long term injury. So both of those guys,

675
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see an uptick. They've been

676
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: kind of hit, you know, hit or miss this year

677
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: and for a while. But I do think they uh

678
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: get back to it this week and going forward. I

679
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: think those those two guys are going to see a

680
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: pretty dramatic up to go with the Dolphins. I gotta

681
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: see what you know. Waller is interesting. You know, we'll

682
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: see because Wattle kind of last year you would expect,

683
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: you would have expected more and he was just kind

684
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: of shaky all year. But I do think that this

685
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: is where they Carolina this week. I think this is

686
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: a good spot for Wattle to kind of bounce bounce

687
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: back here. Who are you on besides eighty Ritchell this week?

688
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing with David Mitchell. He's gonna bring.

689
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: He's going to bring the excitement, right like if you

690
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: his yards we were on the touchdown, try to give

691
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: a touchdown pick. I mean, he rushed the ladders. He

692
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: is the most exciting disaster a wide receiver we've seen

693
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 2: in quite some time. He just gave going after him

694
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: a blocking he uh he cost them two touchdowns, right yeah, yeah,

695
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: the block, the hold and the either way. Alex Pears's

696
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: job is safe. He'll be back this weekend. Mitchell will

697
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 2: be back to ten percent routes on rate. But yeah,

698
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: always worth a flyer in dfs and all over prop

699
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 2: markets whenever pierces out. That remains true for sure. But yeah,

700
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: I'm along on Jay Flowers here against the Texans. You know,

701
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson being out is huge. Cooper Rush is obviously

702
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: a massive downgrade to the entire offense. I think they're

703
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: going to try to lean on Dereck Henry as much

704
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: as possible here. You know, the Texans also have really

705
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,479
Speaker 2: tough secondary. You know, Flowers might be seeing a decent

706
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: amount of Stingley here. Flowers, he obviously has the talent

707
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: to overcome it. But I still rank him, you know,

708
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 2: all the way down at wide receiver twenty eight right now,

709
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 2: just limited touchdown upside. So when he takes a hit

710
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: in my projected you know, targets receptions yards, that really

711
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: gives a fatal blow of Flowers upside this week. So

712
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: down on him. And then Jordan Addison had a really

713
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: good debut last week. Had four catches for one hundred

714
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: and fourteen yards. One of those should have been a

715
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: long touchdown. I don't know how he didn't score that,

716
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: but I think he kind of bailed out his fantasy

717
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: managers with that long catch. But this this passing offense

718
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: is just overall down this year. So it's gonna be

719
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: tougher for Addison to be consistent with. You know, they

720
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 2: still have Justin Jefferson, TJ. Hawkinson there, so I consider

721
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 2: you know, Addison more of a wide receiver four type option. Yeah.

722
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: You know, another tough matchup here against the Browns. They've

723
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 2: been good against the run end pass. Uh, So this

724
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: is a tough spot for Adison to kind of repeat

725
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: last week. So, uh, he's still in the you know,

726
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 2: wide receiver forty range for me this week.

727
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, this Viking team, it's it's kind of like

728
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: week to week. It's just you don't know what to

729
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: expect anymore. They'd become a tough, tough, tough of team

730
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: that I thought to project. Yeah, I mean, I guess

731
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: the Olne injuries don't don't help.

732
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: Uh.

733
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: I am low on Keon Coleman. He's the e CR

734
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver thirty two. That's a that's a little high

735
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: for me. You know, I know we're starting at by,

736
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: we're starting into buy weeks. But Coleman, remember he had

737
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: the one touchdown this year and that was a tip

738
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: ball and then uh right, yeah, yeah he had.

739
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 2: He had yeah his hands.

740
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: And then since then, uh hasn't done anything. He three

741
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: catches from twenty six, three for twenty and three for

742
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: forty five. So going up against New England, I think

743
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: that he's he'll have the toughest matchup out of you know,

744
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: the receiver group really good on that. Did you see

745
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: that play where he scored? He kind of that was

746
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: like one of those Madden broken tackles where it's like

747
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: not supposed to be a broken tackle at all, but

748
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: the game just decided nobody was going to bring him

749
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: down on that way. It's just like all right, and

750
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: he's out and down the sideline. But yeah, I just

751
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: think this Bill's offense is going to be tough to

752
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: project outside of James Cook most weeks. Uh, you know,

753
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: Kincaid is trending up as well. So yeah, Coleman inside

754
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: the top thirty six, that's that's a little rich rich

755
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: for me. That's the guy I am down on. All right,

756
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: wellde receiver prop, where are you.

757
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: Going total receptions over under eight and a.

758
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: Half Jesus, I mean that sounds about that sounds about

759
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: five too low. Yeah, right, he does this though, what

760
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: is he ten to eight eleven thirty? Oh my god?

761
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: And what do we This is a Thursday night game,

762
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: so it could be a little sloppy. It's do what

763
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: has he always done this? I feel like because he's average,

764
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: like what like almost six for ninety for his career

765
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: coming in, but he's eight and a half, I still

766
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: gotta go under. That's that's just ridiculous. I mean, he's

767
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: probably gonna go over. But just like from a median standpoint,

768
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: I still gotta I still gotta work in some league regrets,

769
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: so we average. I can't. It just can't be all

770
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: Pooka average after four games. So yeah, yeah, I gotta

771
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: go under this. Hate this.

772
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I haven't even looked at his prop. I

773
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: would imagine it's either seven and a half juiced way

774
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: up to the over or eight and a half, you know,

775
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: under minus one thirty something like that. But the Yeah,

776
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: the one problem is, you know, if parties out Jennings

777
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: Peercell are both out, you know, the Rams might not

778
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: have to throw much. So it kind of depends on

779
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: which Niners offensive players sued up to kind of force

780
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: the issue with them. But man, it's it's hard to

781
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: project them anything under eight right now.

782
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, his prop is at most spots it is seven

783
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: and a half. We have about minus one sixty to

784
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: the over. Yeah, it looks like, yeah, that's pretty much

785
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: where it is across the board. And then this might

786
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: be like one or two books where it's it's up

787
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: to eight and a half. So yeah, it's a good one.

788
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: I don't especially because it's a you know, Island primetime

789
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: first game of the week type thing. I wouldn't be

790
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: surprised if it closes at eight and a half. You

791
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: don't get what it's gonna be. Like, what ninety nine

792
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: point nine percent of money on the over is that?

793
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: Ho?

794
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 1: Are we getting one of those? Yeah?

795
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: Right absolutely, Who in the right mind can bet on

796
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: the under? Maybe me? Yeah, but yeah that it is

797
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 2: not for the faint of heart, that's for sure.

798
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: I just think of it this way. If he gets

799
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: like a seventy yard catch and run, that that decreases

800
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: the chances of him exactly where it's actually saying he's

801
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: catching a ball on every drive almost Like that's essentially

802
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: what you're saying. If you're giving him like an eight

803
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: and a half line like that is exactly.

804
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: Hey, he could even get a carry and take it

805
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: to the house like he did in what week one? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

806
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 2: that would that wouldn't be a catch, it would make

807
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: it even more of a run heavy game script. So yeah,

808
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 2: he has he has that upside as well.

809
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: Wait, speaking of which, before we move on, we're not

810
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: tell you about two to atlow. Man.

811
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the last I was sitting pretty with that.

812
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 2: I should have taken under I should have taken under

813
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: one and a half receptions on thirty one of the

814
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: many sides. That was kind of right on. But did

815
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: you see that they had ten players? The Colts had

816
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: ten players on the field on that Oh no, I didn't.

817
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: Even realize that. Oh man, that's even crazier. I just

818
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: was coming.

819
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: Lou was like, that's my bad. We had ten players.

820
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: It's like, can I have one fucking prop that doesn't

821
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: end with some catastrophe like that? Ten players? So that's

822
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: why it was wide open. But uh yeah to too,

823
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: I'm only fading his receptions from now and not those.

824
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: I even wrote that up. I said he's going to

825
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: have the random big catch. But yeah, that was the

826
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: last their last offensive play of the game.

827
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, now he won't and now he won't score for

828
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. It'll be Jordan Winnington every time.

829
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 2: Every time. Yeah, next week zero catches, zero yards yep, bucket.

830
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, because that's like they had to get on that.

831
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: They had to get on that. It's coordinator. Once the

832
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: coordinator says it, it's like, yeah, it's gonna happen, but

833
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: that that's that's unfortunate.

834
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 2: Beat.

835
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: I mean, the Rams are just the king one side

836
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: of the other. This is the Kings of bad beats.

837
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: This year.

838
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna find a witch doctor. I'm going to figure

839
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: out what the hell happened. Ever since the last play

840
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: of this Super Bowl where I lost half yard on

841
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: the worthy, I'm like, literally, anything other than a touchdown

842
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: pass right here, I hit the Mahomes under. I think

843
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: I had a profitable Super Bowl. It was just like

844
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 2: the the one where I only lost, like T Higgins

845
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: winning MVP and I was what you were talking about.

846
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had t Higgins and that just crashed and vern.

847
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: So this was I had mahomes under what two fifty

848
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 2: and a half yards and he had one hundred and

849
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: ninety nine and he threw the fifty yard touchdown worthy

850
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: at the end of the game, just meaning.

851
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: He was on that roster.

852
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's the key that he's the key.

853
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Tight End Top five Week five we got.

854
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 2: Brock Bauers, Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Tyler Warren of his

855
00:43:54,920 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: rushing touchdown and Sam Laporta, Ride.

856
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: Bowers, Ferguson, Warren, and Hunter, Henry Hunter. Henry's out, He's in.

857
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: He's either touchdowns or volume. And I still I still

858
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: have questions about that. Bill's like, you know, safety linebacker. Course.

859
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna stick. I'll probably stick

860
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: with Henry. Maybe we'll see if the part is like

861
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: a couple of spots. He's like in like my tight

862
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: and eight Right now, it's been a lot of tough

863
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: to pro jack. But who are you high on?

864
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 2: I'm high on the rookie Ronde Gadson of the Chargers.

865
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: You know, I thought the Chargers were gonna land Colson Lovelin.

866
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: That would have been fun, but they got Gatson in

867
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: like the fifth round, I think. But he kind of

868
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 2: reminded me of Darren Waller, who's also a late round

869
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: tight end. Just a really excellent pass catching tight end,

870
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: and he finally got his first shot last week with

871
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: Will Disley out, and Disley was out again this week,

872
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: so Gatson's role grew even more. He had a fifty

873
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 2: percent routes run rate. He's pretty much the clear past

874
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: catching tight end now over Tyler Conklin. So it'll be

875
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: interesting to see what happens if and when Disleague does return.

876
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: But I think Gatson's kind of their long term pass

877
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: catching tight end at this point. So yeah, the problem

878
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: with him is they already have three wide receivers that

879
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 2: command such a high target share with lad keenan Quinton,

880
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: But he's a guy if one of those guys goes down,

881
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: he might be able to produce you know, low end

882
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: tight end one value. So he's a guy that's on

883
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 2: my radar for sure. He should be on everyone's radar

884
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: for season long. But you know, for DFS props, he's

885
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: in play, you know, right now, So he's my tight

886
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: end nineteen against the Commanders. But the needles pointing up

887
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: on him and you know, by the end of the

888
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: season he could see you know, enough snaps opportunities to

889
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: be a low end tight end one. So he gats

890
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: in somebody that should be on everyone's radar right now.

891
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like his his pops is somebody that

892
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: you I and I could play that game where we

893
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: just name a late nineties, early two thousands random NFL

894
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: player like Ronde Gadson sor I don't even know if

895
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: it's senior or what, but I think he had his

896
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: most touchdowns his rookie year. I think he had like

897
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: seven and never had as many going forward. But I

898
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: remember him on the on the Dolphins. But speaking of

899
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and I think you mentioned Darren Waller, That's

900
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: that's who I'm high on. Uh, you know, just kind

901
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: of coming off that Monday night game. If he's gonna

902
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: catch touchdowns, that's that kind of opens things up a

903
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: little bit because that's the one kind of like an

904
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram Like, he never really caught touchdowns, so I

905
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: couldn't be that that high on him. But if Wa

906
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: was gonna catch touchdowns, I think the usage, you know,

907
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: only about a thirty five percent route rate last week,

908
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: but that first game, you know on the kind of

909
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: you know, on the injury report for the entire year

910
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: reading up to it, So I think you know, this week,

911
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: you know another you know kind of getting through a

912
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: game as long as we don't see him, you know,

913
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: pop up and miss a ton of practice time or

914
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: anything like that. I think he's in line for a

915
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: lot more usage with Tyreek Hill out and we saw

916
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: we saw this with John who Smith, you another veteran

917
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: who kind of started a little slow and by the

918
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: end of the year he was just a monster. And Waller,

919
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean, the usage is starting a little slow in

920
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: terms of the route rate, but the production is already there.

921
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: So I kind of want to see where this goes

922
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: because I was kind of kind of a head scratcher

923
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: when they signed him. I mean, it just didn't seem

924
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: like a culture fit at all. But lo and Behold

925
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: is catching multi touchdown game and his Dolphin debut, So

926
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see how that, see how that goes.

927
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: But I definitely definitely a guy that I think is

928
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: trending upward. Who are you low on at tight End?

929
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: Well on Dalton Kincaid just because this continues to be

930
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: like a three way committee at tight end with Jackson

931
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: Hawes mixing in quite a bit, so you know, Kinkaid

932
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: continues to be limited around a sixty percent routes run rate.

933
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,479
Speaker 2: His target rate took a bit of a hit this week.

934
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: It's down to twenty one percent on the season, which

935
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: just isn't high enough with that kind of usage. But

936
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: he was able to bail managers out with you know,

937
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: the twenty eight yard touchdown catch. That's that was his

938
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: only catch of the day, so very close to it,

939
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: you know, a goose egg. But just the fact that

940
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: the Bills have such an easy schedule they're going to

941
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: win so many games is here that just lowers Kincaid's

942
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 2: weekly upside. You know, maybe the Patriots will keep it

943
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: competitive enough this week, but I still have Kinkaid all

944
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: the way down to tight end twelve. I think his

945
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: ECR was like tight end six last night. Yeah, check right.

946
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: That that's got to be too high. I think that's

947
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: just people, you know, early Tuesday projections, but I think

948
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: that's too high. I think he's still a low end

949
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: tight end too, because you know, this is the Bill's offense.

950
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 2: They're going to be putting up points. But he's really

951
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: becoming a touchdown dependent tight end, which is what you

952
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: don't want. So yeah, he's he's down to tight end

953
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: twelve and he's going to be pretty streaky throughout the season.

954
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's turning into He's like, he's like turning into

955
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts, except he has except he's scoring touchdowns. He's

956
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: like becoming more and more of just like frustrating guy.

957
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, the thing was, Josh said at the beginning

958
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: of the year, He's like, I missed him on a

959
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: bunch of touchdowns last year, so it's like now getting touchdowns,

960
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: are not getting not getting much else, which is kind

961
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 1: of frustrating after after you know, the way his career

962
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: started and with the targets that are seemingly up for

963
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: grabs in Buffalo. I am low on Mark Andrews, so

964
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, we had it was a good run, but

965
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: now we got Cooper Rush ander center facing the Texans.

966
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't like any part of this. He's a ECR

967
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 1: tight end ten. I don't think he's the top twelve

968
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: optionist because it's not every week. Isaiah like he's even

969
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: gonna go Cardio King on us. I hope, I hope.

970
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so weird.

971
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, maybe he was wasn't fully ready. I

972
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: don't know. It was an important game. Maybe, I don't

973
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 1: know if the Ravens thought they would be imagine like,

974
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: what was it maybe with midway through the third quarter

975
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: of Week one? Did you ever think the Ravens would

976
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: be sitting here at one in three?

977
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 2: No? No, and yeah, I mean they could be one

978
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: in four if Yeah, there's still three point favorites here,

979
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: but wouldn't be they're under ducks.

980
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: They're under ducks, I believe. Okay, I think the Texans

981
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: are about two and a half yea another I was.

982
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 2: Gonna say, uh yeah, I had already penciled lamar out.

983
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: I was shocked to see that. Yeah, two and a

984
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 2: half point dogs. Yeah, one in three, one in four

985
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: played next.

986
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: I mean, while, have you seen the Texans?

987
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: I guess I have.

988
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 1: They haven't. They haven't like done anything against the non

989
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: worst team in the league really, so I mean, yeah,

990
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Baltimore wins, but I still

991
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: want no part. I don't know how to project, like,

992
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: especially with likely back and rush. I still don't know

993
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: why Baltimore didn't. I think they have Huntley somewhere. Did

994
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: they resign? I don't know why they didn't get a

995
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: running quarterback. They usually get a running quarterback.

996
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: I don't understand that at all. Huntley is bouncing around somewhere.

997
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: I think the last team is with was the Browns, right,

998
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: But he's out there somewhere. They got to bring him

999
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 2: in because, yeah, going from Lamarta Cooper Rush doesn't make sense.

1000
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 2: That's been the thing with Huntley is they can kind

1001
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 2: of keep the same offense going.

1002
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: He's there, he's on a practice going. I thought, I

1003
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: thought I remember that as like in the middle of

1004
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: that hectic part of the year trying to update season

1005
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: long projections.

1006
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, did they Did they announce Rush is the starting quarterback?

1007
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: Or is there still a chance that?

1008
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they announced anything, so, I mean

1009
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised, but Hunty he has kind of

1010
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: been trending down career wise, and he had that had

1011
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: that terrible stretch what was it with the Dolphins last year?

1012
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: So I yeah, I can't call it, but I just

1013
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: that is kind of a head scatcher, like pretty jarring

1014
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: to go from Lamar to Rush because they've always kind

1015
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: of had a a more mobile backup. So we'll see

1016
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: how that goes. But either way, I mean, either way,

1017
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: it's no good for Mark Andrews. Whether it's Cooper Rush

1018
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: is probably better for Mark Andrews, I would say, right,

1019
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean that's less scrambles.

1020
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: Well yeah, more PASSI attempts, but still less touch on outside.

1021
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 2: I think anytime we bring up Mark Andrews in our

1022
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: low on segment, he he averages one point five touchdowns.

1023
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: But I think I think this week it's a little

1024
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: bit different because it is in theory Cooper Rush under center.

1025
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: But it I mean it sounds like Lamar could miss

1026
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 2: more than this week, right, And they face the Rams

1027
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: next week and then they have the bye, so maybe

1028
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: they kind of want to get to the bye, but

1029
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 2: they might be one in five. Right, Oh my god,

1030
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 2: So that's brutal, better better.

1031
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: Better shot and making the playoffs right now, Ravens or Bengals.

1032
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 2: I would still go Ravens. I would still go Ravens.

1033
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: A man, it's ugly, all right, Let's go the prop

1034
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: for tight end. Gotta go Darren Waller here. Let's go

1035
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: to the receiving yardage because this is hard because I

1036
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: feel like he's gonna play more than thirty five percent?

1037
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: But how much more? And we haven't even got an

1038
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: injury report, so we know that he's at least like,

1039
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: you know, a Wednesday appearance on the injury report, So

1040
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: let's go thirty and a half yards.

1041
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: That's literally what I was thinking. Nice because I have

1042
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 2: a thirty three uh and I have his routes run

1043
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: rate around fifty fifty.

1044
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: Coming this week.

1045
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was the plan, just to have certain

1046
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: you know, plays for him. And he got targeted on

1047
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: what forty of his routes, So that's gonna go down,

1048
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: the routes will go up. I think it does settle

1049
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: around thirty and a half. I think just and Tyreek's out,

1050
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 2: I think they'll be able to lean on the run

1051
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: against the Panthers. Wow, the Dolphins Verus Panthers. That's gonna

1052
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 2: be something I'm gonna I'm gonna go under here, but

1053
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: I have I'm right in line with you. Just I

1054
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 2: think they'll get like Washington more involved, Westbrook a Keene

1055
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 2: a little bit more involved in the game. Pimeos. I

1056
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 2: think that was kind of the plan, was to kind

1057
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,959
Speaker 2: of scheme up those plays for Waller. So yeah, only

1058
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: in utter, but yeah, I think it's a great line.

1059
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think Connor was Connor was around like

1060
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: fifty eight percent, you know, as the lead tight end.

1061
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: There was no third guy active, and then Hill would

1062
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: be you know about half that, So I do wonder

1063
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: if you know, maybe Waller this week takes all of

1064
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: those snaps because it's not it's still not a ton

1065
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: like you know to get to like sixty percent.

1066
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's a tough projection.

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