1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to talk about how the communist looks 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: at government because Eric holders in the news. We're going 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: to talk about the FBI. We have an FBI whistleblower here. 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: We're going to talk to Carol Roth. We have a 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: pack show tonight on I'm right. It is hard for 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: decent people, for good people, to understand how communists think 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: and why communists say the things they say. 8 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: It just is you're a different species. 9 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: A decent, normal person who wants the things you want 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: is going to have a difficult time relating to a 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: communist for the same reason they're going to have a 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: difficult time relating to a lion on the Serengetti. It's 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: just a different species. And so it's important we try 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: to as often as we can on this show explain 15 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: why they're saying the things they're saying, because oftentimes, lots 16 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: of the times, the right normal people, decent people, you me, 17 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: we can get wrong. We'll hear them say something and 18 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: will think, wow, they're being what a hypocrite? That's a 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 1: huge one though. Wright loves to say that about the communists. 20 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: So they're being hypocritical. How could he say that? That's 21 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: so hypocritical. A great example of this is Barack Obama's 22 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: infamous Attorney General, Eric Holder, committed communist America hater Eric Holder. 23 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: Eric Holder went on the. 24 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: News, he's talking about all this DOJ stuff. Now, before 25 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: we get to Eric Holder, this DOJ stuff looks serious. 26 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: I don't know whether anyone's going to go to prison. 27 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell you that. I'm not here 28 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: to get your hopes up. 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: But it's very clear this task force is taking this 30 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: Russia hoast stuff seriously. They're coming through records, they're talking 31 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: about indictments. We'll get to that in a few Eric 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: Holder went on the news and he said this, and this. 33 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: Administration has used the Justice Department, has used the power, 34 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: the investigatory power of the Justice Department, to target political 35 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: opponents of the president. I mean, you've seen Donald Trump 36 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: talk about a whole range of things most ridiculous to 37 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: talk about the possibility of indicting, prosecuting for treason Barack Obama. 38 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, these are dangerous kinds of things 39 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: that this president is talking about. And I'm really concerned 40 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: that this Justice Department under BONDI, under Patel, will do 41 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: things that are inconsistent with the traditions of the Department. 42 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: Now this is where you if you haven't seen that before, 43 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: I already know what's going through your head right now. 44 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: What the DEO j under Joe Biden just did, all that, 45 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: they already politicized the whole thing when they went after 46 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. 47 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 4: How could he say that? What a hypocrite? 48 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: Okay, remember when Kamala Harris said, this. 49 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 5: Is the Department of Justice against his political enemies, ground 50 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 5: up peaceful. 51 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 6: Protesters and prove them out of our country. 52 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 5: And even quote turning the United States. You've got someone 53 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 5: who has said that if he were back in office, 54 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 5: he would weaponize the Department of Justice, someone who has 55 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 5: openly applauded insurrectionists as patriots, someone who has said that 56 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 5: they will go after their political enemies. 57 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: Again, it's very tempting to see things like that and say, 58 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: what a hypocrite. 59 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: That's hypocritical. That's what you guys are doing. Very tempted. 60 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: But let's have a talk once again about communism itself. 61 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: If you think of communism as a political ideology, a 62 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: political stance, you can never and will never understand these 63 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: people why they think the way they think, why they 64 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: say the things they say, it will always be beyond you. 65 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: If you understand that it is a religion, communism makes 66 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: way more sense. And it's not just that communism is 67 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: a religion. It is one of those, and there have 68 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: been and will always be many of those. It is 69 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: one of those religions that does not share space with 70 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: other religions. And look, I'm not going to indict this 71 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: religion or that religion. Obviously there are a million that 72 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: could pop into your head. 73 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: Islam is a great example. 74 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: If you go to an Islamic country and that is 75 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: the law of the land, you will often find that 76 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: over time the Christians will be purged and removed from 77 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: the country. Not all the time, but oftentimes Jews purged 78 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: and removed from the country. Why is that it's more 79 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: of a exclusive religion where not only do they believe 80 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: in only that everything else has to be eliminated. That's 81 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: exactly how communists think they are not only the chief religion, 82 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: all other religions should be purged. How does this pertained 83 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: to what we're talking about here when it comes to 84 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: the forces of government, the FBI, dj CIA, whatever, Irs, 85 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what it is. Eric Holder wasn't being hypocritical 86 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: when he said, I'm worried they're going to use these things. 87 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: In Eric Holder's mind, well, the DOJ should enforce the. 88 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: One true religion of the land, the. 89 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: DOJ, the FBI, the CIA, in Eric Holder's mind, in 90 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's mind, in the mind of the communists. 91 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 4: That should be their chief goal. 92 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: It's not the hunt down child predators, or secure the border. 93 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 4: Or enforce the law. 94 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: The communist never thinks about that. 95 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: The whole point of these organizations should be to protect 96 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: and move forward the communist revolution. 97 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 4: He's not being hypocritical. 98 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: He believes you should be thrown in a cage for 99 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: being a Republican. And he also believes, he genuinely believes it, 100 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: that it is an absolute outrage if you do the 101 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: same thing to him for being a democrat, because there 102 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: should be only one religion in the government, his sick, 103 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: demonic religion. And look, there's another part about what he 104 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: just said. I'm going to rewind and ask the producer 105 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: Matt to go ahead and bring this up again. There 106 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: was another part of what he just said that is 107 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: so revealing and it should make all of us on 108 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: the right. It should make all of us a little 109 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: bit of shame. This is what he said. 110 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: These are dangerous kinds of things that this president is 111 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: talking about. And I'm really concerned that this Justice Department 112 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: under Bondie, under Patel will do things that are inconsistent 113 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: with the tradition of the department. 114 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: They'll do things that are inconsistent with the traditions of 115 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: the department. That's an interesting way up, But that isn't it. 116 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: What traditions would he be talking about. What traditions would 117 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: Eric Holder have grown accustomed to, and now he sees 118 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: those traditions being broken. 119 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: Well, it's quite simple. 120 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: It's this tradition, the tradition of the American Left, of 121 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: the American communist is when they take power, government power, 122 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: any power. But we're just going to make it about 123 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: government for now. When they take government power, they view 124 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: it as a vehicle to push forward the communist revolution, 125 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: and they will use government power in every imaginable way, 126 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: in every way they can possibly get away with, until 127 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: the courts or the public stop them. They will use 128 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: government power against their polic opponents. It's just how the 129 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: communist thinks government powers should be used. And they will 130 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: violate every law without a second thought every norm you 131 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: name it, that's what he thinks it should be used as. 132 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: And what he's gotten used to is he will do that. 133 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: He will take over, Joe Biden will take over the presidency. 134 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: He'll open up the border. He'll soe to keep the 135 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: border open. He'll import as many barbarians as humanly possible. 136 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: He will send the DOJFBI after pro lifers, he'll write 137 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: down he'll put domestic school board moms on the domestic 138 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: terrorists list, you name it. 139 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 4: He'll do the most. 140 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: Horrible, evil, lawless things in the world. And in his mind, 141 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:46,359 Speaker 1: that's how it always operates, and we never. 142 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: Respond in kind. 143 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: That is the. 144 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: Real tradition Eric Holder is talking about here. The American democrat, 145 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: the American communist has gotten used to a system where 146 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: he can operate like a rabbit animal and when the 147 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: right takes over, will do the But what was that, 148 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: Bill Barr said, not a tip for tad. 149 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 7: Those who broke the laws will be held to account. 150 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 7: But this cannot be and it will not be a 151 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 7: tit for tat exercise. We are not going to lower 152 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 7: the standards just to achieve a result. 153 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: You may like the sound of that. You know who 154 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: else loves it. The Communists. We're not gonna lower ourselves. 155 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna be to a higher standard. We're better than that. 156 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: Yep. 157 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: The communist animals who abuse this country, abuse the law, 158 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: abuse their government positions. They love that way of thinking 159 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: because they know when they're in charge, they will loot 160 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: the treasury, pillage the house. When we take over, We're 161 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: not gonna do a tit for tad. We certainly don't 162 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: want to punish you guys. No no, no, no, no, no, no punishment. 163 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 2: Just let me just let me clean things up. 164 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to lower myself to your level. 165 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: The Communist has grown accustomed to that. 166 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: It's the only way I've ever known America to operate 167 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: in my forty four years on this planet. The animals 168 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: go crazy. The right takes over and tries to be 169 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: the adults. We're going to do it the right way. 170 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: But all that does is encourage the Communists to do 171 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: worse and worse and worse things. And that's why, over 172 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: the course of your life, no matter how old you are, 173 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: you've watched them escalate, haven't you. 174 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 4: Why is that. 175 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: They'll do They'll do this under Jimmy Carter and that's bad, right, 176 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: But then but then the next time we get Bill 177 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: Clinton and he does even more. But then after Bill Clinton, 178 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: Barack Obama continued eight years, does even more. And then 179 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden gets in and it was just flow out 180 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: communist dictatorship for four years. We have the American president 181 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: threatening us with our jobs. Why are they only escalating. 182 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: Because we are always about it? No tip for that here. 183 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: They always escalate because there's never a punishment for doing 184 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: the horrible things they've done. And look, I don't want 185 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: to get your hopes up from my hopes up. But 186 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: when the Director of the CIA, John Ratcliffe, goes on 187 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: Fox News and says this, my hopes are getting up. 188 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 8: So what I think I hear you saying is there 189 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 8: is still an opportunity for indictments, potential prosecutions, accountability from 190 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 8: those people who may have lied under oath, like John Brennan, 191 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 8: James Comy, and perhaps Hillary Clinton. 192 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 9: Well, that's why I've made the referrals that I have, 193 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 9: dn I Gabbard has made referrals, and why we're going 194 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 9: to continue to share the intelligence that would support the 195 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 9: ability of our Department of Justice to make fair and 196 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 9: bring fair and just claims against those who have perpetrated 197 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 9: this hoax against the American people and this stain on 198 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 9: our country. 199 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: Again, I want to reinforce something I've been telling you, 200 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: something I'm going to repeat again and again. I don't 201 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: know that somebody powerful is going to burn for all this. 202 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: I know that they deserve it. I know that it 203 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: is necessary. If nobody burns for all this, then we 204 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: will have accelerated our end date as a nation. I 205 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: really do mean that the American people have had enough, 206 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: is sick of it. So I don't know that anyone's 207 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: going to burn. I know they should, But I also 208 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: know this. This appears so far to have a level 209 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: of seriousness I have never seen before. When the Director 210 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: of National Intelligence, Tulsa Gabbard, when she gets a stack 211 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: of declassified papers and walks into the Department of Justice, 212 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: walks into Pam Bonni's desk and says, there, there's your 213 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: crimes prosecute. When the director of the Central Intelligence Agency 214 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: does the same thing, Hey, I've made a referral, here's 215 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: a stack of papers. I declassified them. Prosecute. That sure 216 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: sounds like they're taking it deadly serious. John Brennan's all 217 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: over TV. I think he knows they're taking it seriously. 218 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 4: Soulci Gabbard. 219 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 10: You know she may be impaired on the ethics front, certainly, 220 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 10: but she's not impaired on the inflect front, and so 221 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 10: I can only presume that she is doing this intentionally, 222 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 10: intentionally mischaracterizing, misrepresenting, and lying about what she has found. 223 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: John Brennan is already attempting it looks like to me 224 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: to try his criminal case, Lord Willing in the public square. 225 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: I would imagine that you will see John Brennan on 226 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: TV for a while until his two thousand dollars an 227 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: hour lawyers tell him to shut his freaking mouth. But 228 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: from everything I'm hearing, I think John Brennan might be 229 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: the low hanging fruit in this whole thing. Enjoy your 230 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: time on TV, John, All that may have made you uncomfortable, 231 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: But I am right one of those FBI whistleblowers, those 232 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: brave souls, is about to join us in a moment. 233 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: We'll talk about some things. Before we talk about some things, 234 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: let me talk to you about putting your money where 235 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: you're worlds are. It's not only government power the Communist 236 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: believes in using. They on purpose conquered Corporate America because 237 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: they saw all the money and power Corporate America had, 238 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: so they infiltrated the HR departments, the board rooms, and 239 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: soon you have the gigantic cell phone companies Veri's in 240 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: At and t T Mobile tossing money out to every 241 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: communist cause. Your money out to every communist cause in 242 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: the country. It's disgusting and we feel powerless and angry. 243 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: But that's that's why you should switch to Pure Talk, 244 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: the Patriotic mobile company. They don't do that with your money. 245 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: You'll pay less, you keep your phone, you keep your number. 246 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: It's the same towers, so you're not sacrificing service. There's 247 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: no reason not to switch to pure Talk. Go to 248 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: puretalk dot com slash jessetv. 249 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: We'll be back. 250 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: The president has been set. I can show you Donald 251 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: Trump's mugshot. The second the communists took power, they had 252 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump arrested in every jurisdiction in the United States 253 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: of America. They tried to blow his head off and 254 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: send him to prison for ninety years. So don't tell 255 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: me president's former presidents are untouchable, No, sir. The president 256 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: of the United States of America cook the books on 257 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: his orders of intelligence in order to create a false 258 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: narrative about the incoming president who was about to be 259 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: sworn in. He used a Central Intelligence Agency like it 260 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: was the DNC. He used the FBI like it was 261 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: the DNC, He used the DNI like it was the DNC. 262 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: Politicking with his office. 263 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 4: That is a. 264 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: Crime so severe Barack Obama should never see the light 265 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: of day again. He deserves a trial, a fair trial, 266 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: a public trial, because that's what the American people deserve. 267 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: And then he deserves to go to prison for the 268 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: rest of his natural life. And not just because I 269 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: hate him, but because the next time we get a 270 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: scumbag like that in the Oval office, he has to 271 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: look at Barack Obama roddingg and Fort Leavenworth and say 272 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: to himself, well, I guess the CIA probably isn't my 273 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: political arm, so maybe I should back off of that 274 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: this moment. I'm not just saying this for radio purposes. 275 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: Is everything for this. 276 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: Well, there's one thing to want it, and there's one 277 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: thing for Reed to run my mouth on TV about it. 278 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: It's another thing entirely to actually get it. And as 279 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: I've explained, I'm a little jaded on that joining me. Now, 280 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: my friend, somebody probably a little bit more jaded than 281 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: I am. FBI whistle blower co host of the American 282 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: Radicals podcast, Steve Friend. Okay, Steve, I'm not naive enough 283 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: to think that Barack Obama's going to JO. I understand 284 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: the way our country works, the way accountability works here, 285 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: and I've explained that to people. 286 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: But in your mind is any. 287 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 11: This is my tremendous concern here because you just got 288 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 11: to go back about three weeks to when the DOJ 289 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 11: effectively punted on the Epstein question, when we had a 290 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 11: fundamental question there, and it's outside of the even the 291 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 11: abuse of children question, which should be a borned and 292 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 11: disgusting to everyone, But the fundamental question there was do 293 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 11: we in fact have a two tiered system of justice 294 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 11: where the rest of us get held accountable for things 295 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 11: we even didn't do if we took a guide tour 296 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 11: through the Capitol and the elite pedophile rapists can just 297 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 11: do whatever they want to whoever they want. And the 298 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 11: DOJ effectively voted present, so we didn't get that answer adjudicated. 299 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 11: Now we have a second bite of the apple here, 300 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 11: and my concern is perhaps this is an effort afoot 301 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 11: by the Department of Justice, by the FBI to get 302 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 11: off the X get out of the spotlight from the 303 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 11: Epstein concerns. But what they've done now is paid themselves 304 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 11: in another corner, because the same question exists, do we 305 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 11: have a two tiered system of justice? And the onus 306 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 11: is on the Department of Justice to provide us that 307 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 11: answer and go forward with an effective and smooth and 308 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 11: quick investigation. 309 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: Because check your. 310 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 11: Calendars here, it's already at the end of July twenty 311 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 11: twenty five. We don't have the time to wait for 312 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 11: years on end until a fair who knows not Joseph 313 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 11: is back in the White House and turning the FBI 314 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 11: and his political enemies. 315 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Steve, let's rewind and actually this chronologically then the 316 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: Epstein stuff. What is your take on the over promising 317 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: and the under delivering. I have a theory, and it's 318 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: only a theory. I don't have any intel on this. 319 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: That Trump knew his name was in there, whether it 320 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: was added after the fact, which I believe or not. 321 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: Trump knew his name was in there, he knew something 322 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: else was coming. He wanted to move people off of 323 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: it and say, hey, drop this thing and let it go. 324 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: But that's just my theory. 325 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: What's your take. 326 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 11: I think that's a fair theory, and it's completely plausible 327 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 11: because we had a lame duck period after Donald Trump 328 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 11: was elected president the second time, and we know for 329 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 11: a fact from other whistleblowers like my buddy Garrett A. Boyle, 330 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 11: that there were documents being destroyed over. 331 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 2: At the FBI. 332 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 11: Who's to say that they weren't manipulated. But I want 333 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 11: to go back to what you mentioned about having promises, 334 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 11: making promises of having a deliverable and then on a 335 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 11: specific delivery date and not doing that. And it's not 336 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 11: limited to just Epstein. We were promised information about the 337 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 11: January sixth involvement from personnel at the FBI, about the 338 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 11: January fifth slash six pipe bomber, about the Dobbs League, 339 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 11: about the White House cocaine. The list just seems to 340 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 11: go on and on and they're failing to deliver on 341 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 11: these and kind of come around to the belief that 342 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 11: the word transparency is a code word for people on 343 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 11: the GOP and the MAGA, I mean the liberal and 344 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 11: the Democrat and the communists. They like to use democracy. 345 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 11: That's their code word for things I like. If you 346 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 11: don't like what I like, you don't like democracy. My 347 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 11: fear is that transparency has the exact same hold for 348 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 11: the MAGA right in this country, where they claim to 349 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 11: be transparent, but they're not really being transparent with what 350 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 11: we want them to be. And that should be enormously 351 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 11: concerned and goes because there will never be a time 352 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 11: where they're in charge forever. This is the opportunity to 353 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 11: actually turn this stuff over and. 354 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 4: To the Epstein. 355 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 11: Stuff like if Donald Trump is in fact on that 356 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 11: list or one of his buddies, or if there's foreign 357 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 11: relations or intelligence purposes, whatever the justification is for not 358 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 11: turning that information over, you have to end that justification 359 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 11: with the following phrase. So that's why I let the 360 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 11: elite pedophile rapists go free, and you cannot sign me 361 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 11: up for that culture or that country. I don't care 362 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 11: if it destroys our culture. I don't care if it 363 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 11: destroys our country. Our culture in our country deserve to 364 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 11: go down the toilet bowl. 365 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: If that and the fact is true, Steve, would you 366 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: explain before we move back to the other subject, would 367 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: you explain in a law enforcement some got of experienced 368 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: in this is terms why there's not an. 369 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 2: Actual list for people. 370 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: You know, we like to use that term, but there's 371 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: boxes and boxes of files, but not a list. 372 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 11: Well, that would be a work product, a list. I mean, 373 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 11: I don't think that Jeffrey Epstein kept a rolodex where 374 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 11: he said, these are the pedophile cohorts that I have, 375 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 11: and I like to maintain this. And this would be 376 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 11: a work product that would be generated by investigators going 377 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 11: through and looking and cataloging the video and the travel 378 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 11: footage and doing conducting interviews and subpoenating records, and it 379 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 11: would be collected and you would have a list of 380 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 11: individuals who are of interest or potentially criminal masterminds or 381 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 11: engaging in filonious activity. It would essentially be derivative of 382 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 11: a proper investigation. It's not like any sort of black 383 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 11: book existed, and if they did, he would possibly be 384 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 11: the worst criminal of all time. I mean, you don't 385 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 11: take notes of the criminal conspiracy unless you want to 386 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 11: go to prison. 387 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: All right, let's switch back to the other big old 388 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: mess on our hands. James Comey's catching a bunch of 389 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: flat right now, and I mean, who knows whether he 390 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: goes down or not, but it almost bothers me that 391 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: it seems like Christopher Wray is missing all this stuff, 392 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: as if he didn't have anything to do with any 393 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: of it. 394 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 11: Christopher Ray, apparently he's Voldemort. We can't say his name anymore. 395 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 11: And look, I just want to raise the concern that 396 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 11: all of the whistleblowers who came forward during Joe Biden's administration, 397 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 11: we're all complaining about events that were going on during 398 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 11: the Christopher Ray tenure at the FBI, which leads me 399 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 11: to a couple of different suspicions. When cash Bertel Dan 400 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 11: Bongino got into leadership, they were completely bubble wrapped and 401 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 11: ensconced by people who are there and whispering sweet nothing 402 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 11: to their ear, saying let's go show you the James 403 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 11: Comy room. Because he was sort of outside the statue 404 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 11: of limitations, not really grabbable. But Christopher Ray, we have 405 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 11: radical traditional Catholic intelligence products, we have the January sixth abuses, 406 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 11: we have parents at school board meetings being surveiled. All 407 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 11: of this is at his feet, and he has lied 408 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 11: and provably so perjured himself. I want his name out there, 409 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 11: and he's just sort of evaded attention I'm glad you 410 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 11: brought it up. 411 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: Okay, the FBI. 412 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of very evil people 413 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: still working inside of that building, There's no question about it. 414 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: Have we gotten rid of any of them? Have there 415 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: been any positive reforms? Have you you've seen anything good 416 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: coming from inside of that building? 417 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: Please tell me yes. 418 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 11: Well, when it comes to the personnel matters, they certainly 419 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 11: have gone the exact opposite direction of what I was 420 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 11: like to see, and that would be the promotion of 421 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 11: Stephen Jensen, who was the effective warlord of January sixth, 422 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 11: the section chief of the Domestic Terrorism Operations Section. He 423 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 11: architected how the FBI did that entire thing. He's been 424 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 11: promoted multiple times. He's now the assistant director in charge 425 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 11: of the Washington Field Office. 426 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: I have it on good authority. 427 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 11: He's actually going to be promoted again back into headquarters situation. 428 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 11: Brian Driskell, who was the acting director before Cash Motel 429 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 11: took the helm, who refused to hand over the list 430 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 11: of personnel who were involved inappropriately so with January sixth 431 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 11: to the Department of Justice. 432 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 2: He's been promoted. 433 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 11: Spencer Evans, who went after personnel who refused to get 434 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 11: the experimental gene Jews jabbed into their arm. He's been 435 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 11: promoted and moved over to headquarters. So this list continues 436 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 11: to grow. It's tremendously concerning, and I can only throw 437 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 11: it back to the most benign, innocent reason for that 438 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 11: is and I think that there was an erroneous approach 439 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 11: as it came to leadership when Cash and Dan got 440 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 11: in there, and they went in trying to win hearts 441 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 11: and minds with the presupposition falsely that a lot of 442 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 11: good men and women work at the FBI and they 443 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 11: just need to be restored to rigorous obedience to the Constitution. 444 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 11: But unfortunately they've been weighed, measured and found wanting in 445 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 11: that regard, and they just stood by and just followed orders. 446 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 11: And they are the snakes behind the scenes that are 447 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 11: effectively getting those guys distracted from their job of delivering 448 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 11: on the mandate the American people sent last November of 449 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 11: wanting this agency brought to heal and completely de weaponized. 450 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: Steve PAMBONDI, I know that she's been disappointment, to put 451 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: it mildly, so far, but do we think that she 452 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: has what it takes to take down a powerful John 453 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: Brennan James comy. 454 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 2: Does she have what it takes. 455 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 11: Well, she already passed on the Epstein stuff three weeks ago. 456 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 11: I don't think she gets a second bite of the 457 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 11: apple here, particularly because it involves her boss, the President 458 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 11: of the United States, and the fact that the Apartment 459 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 11: of Justice and the Intelligence Committee tried to run a 460 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 11: coup against his first presidency. This is her opportunity and 461 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 11: it cannot be We're going to bring on a special prosecutor. 462 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 11: We're going to drag this out to twenty twenty nine. 463 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 11: At the end of the day, it'll be too late 464 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 11: to do anything, because that's always how it is, just 465 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 11: so conveniently. The American people deserve answers on this specific 466 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 11: Russia Gate matter, and they deserve them in a timely fashion, 467 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 11: in a way that we can actually adjudicate justice and 468 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 11: answer the question of do we have this two tiered 469 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 11: system of justice or not? And if the answer is yes, 470 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 11: then she's a top an agency that is in charge 471 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 11: of that two tiered system. And that should be something 472 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 11: that we are all fearful of, because you never know 473 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 11: whose hands are going to fall into next. 474 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 2: Steve, Thank you brother. 475 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: As always, Donald Trump just dunked on the Brits to 476 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: their face today and it was freaking awesome. It was hilarious. 477 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: Talk about that in a moment before we talk about that. 478 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: Stop stop using old olive oil. I am well aware 479 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: that you haven't put a second of thought into the 480 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: kind of olive oil you use. 481 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 2: It was the exact same, Mike, I get it. You 482 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: grab whatever. 483 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: Bottles in the grocery store, you go home, you leave 484 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: it on your counter for ten years, and whenever you 485 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: need some olive oil, you dump it in there and 486 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: you never think about it. 487 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: I understand that completely. 488 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, try one bottle fresh from a farm and you'll 489 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: be mad at yourself. That's the best way I could 490 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: describe it. I had no idea that much flavor could 491 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: be added to food with fresh olive oil. All mine 492 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: was always old. I mean we're talking years old. It's 493 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: years old. When you buy it in the grocery store 494 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: at farm fresh two four six dot com fresh olive 495 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 1: oil fresh from a farm, they'll send you a thirty 496 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: nine dollars bottle free so you can see what I'm 497 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: talking about. You pay like a buck to cover the ship. 498 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: Farm fresh two four six dot com will. 499 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 4: Be back. 500 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's discuss the hilarious meeting Trump had today 501 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: with Cure Starmer, the PM of the UK. Now, I 502 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: guess I should explain someone going to take a couple 503 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: of minutes here. 504 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: Why I like this so much. 505 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: I view the United States of America as the beacon 506 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: of freedom. I know that may sound cliche or something 507 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: like that. 508 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 4: I just do. 509 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: We are not only the number one. 510 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: Country in the world in every possible measure, we are 511 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: a free country. 512 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: Relatively. We're a free country. 513 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: And so that, in my mind comes with the responsibility 514 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: that we use our incredible power to spread that kind 515 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: of freedom every where we can, across the globe. And 516 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: so when an American president meets with a foreign leader, 517 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: especially a foreign leader who is violating the freedoms, violating 518 00:27:54,680 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: the rights of his people, I want I expect the 519 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: American president to be that beacon of freedom and to 520 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: talk to him about it. I like that the President 521 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: is bold enough to sit down with the PM UK 522 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: and say this on camera. 523 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 2: It's just the impulsance of free speech today. 524 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 12: Well, free speech is very important. 525 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're referring. 526 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 3: To any place in particular, perhaps they are, but. 527 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 12: We've had free speech for a very very long time. 528 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 2: Here. 529 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 12: We're very proud about. 530 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: That Trump Not exactly, mister Subtley. I mean, I don't 531 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: know which place you're talking about. And of course they 532 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: don't have free speech. You get thrown in jail for 533 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: a Facebook post. That's not free speech, that's not freedom 534 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: at all. And every time there's an evil communist, whether 535 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: they have a British accent or not, they always sell 536 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: their censorship efforts, their crushing of people's freedoms, as an 537 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: effort to protect the people. And you really know they're 538 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: selling it hard when they talk about protecting the kids. 539 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 13: There are new powers here to censor your site States Monday. 540 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 9: To to censor your site on Twitter and Facebook. 541 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: I mean, truth is that okay? 542 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 7: I don't think because I say only good things that 543 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 7: you please, we're. 544 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 12: Not censoring anyone. We've got sub measures which are there 545 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 12: to protect children. 546 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: Of course, well there to protect children. Don't you want 547 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: us to protect children? That's how they do it. But look, 548 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: you heard me talk like this before a few months 549 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: ago when the JD vance went overseas. And you can 550 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: dislike this all you want, you can say it's mean. 551 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: You can say it's confrontational. This is what I want 552 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: from the leaders of America. 553 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 13: Okay, I said what I said, which is that we 554 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 13: do have, of course a special relationship with our friends 555 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 13: in the UK and also with some of our European allies, 556 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 13: but we also know that there have been infringements on 557 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 13: free speech that actually affect not just the British, of 558 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 13: course what the British ca in their own country is 559 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 13: up to them, but also affect American technology companies and 560 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 13: buy extension American citizens. So that is something that we'll 561 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 13: talk about today at launch. 562 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 12: We've had pretty speech for a very very long time 563 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 12: in the United Kingdom and it will last for a 564 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 12: very very long time. 565 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: Well done. 566 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: Look, you want to feel strong enough and bold enough 567 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: to have those conversations. That's why you need Chok been 568 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: telling you fellas hit your tea levels up. Your tea 569 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: levels are down fifty percent, at least Americas are fifty percent. 570 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: We've lost fifty percent of our testosterone in the last 571 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: fifty years. Why are we a bunch of effeminate males now? 572 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: Because we don't have testosterone? So handle that problem naturally. 573 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: Skip the clinic on the corner, natural herbal supplements from 574 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: chok will change your life. I get emails from guys 575 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: in their seventies telling me their doctor is floored by their. 576 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: Energy, their blood work. 577 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 4: How did you do this? 578 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: Natural herbal supplements from choc Try three months? Give it 579 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: three months, Cancel your subscription if you don't feel better. 580 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: Chalk dot Com, slash Jesse TV. 581 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: We'll be back. Okay. 582 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: So what's the nitty gritty on what happened today with 583 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: the EU? What even is the EU? What's with these 584 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: fifteen percent tariffs? I don't know any of these questions. 585 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: I don't have to. That's why I know. 586 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: Carol Roth joining me now, two time New York Times 587 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: best selling offer. 588 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about that. 589 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: Carol Roth, also recovering investment banker. Carol, what just happened 590 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: with the EU today? Besides Donald Trump dunking on Starmer 591 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: on camera, there was something tangible that happened. 592 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: What was it? 593 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 14: Well, of course, anytime you hear something from Donald Trump, 594 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 14: it's very exciting and it's the best thing ever. And 595 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 14: so what is in reality the framework of a possible 596 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 14: trade deal? 597 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 6: Now, it's interesting. 598 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 14: We like to celebrate these things, and certainly I will 599 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 14: celebrate that things. 600 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 6: Are not escalating. 601 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 14: The challenge is that we are the ones that started 602 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 14: the escalation. So it's sort of like an arsonist burning 603 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 14: down your house, putting out the fire and going, oh, 604 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 14: look I saved your house, and now we all need 605 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 14: to celebrate it. So we've created this problem, and now 606 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 14: we seem to have potentially solved the problem, or at 607 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 14: least have the framework to solve the problem, Jesse, And 608 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 14: the details sort of remain to be seen. 609 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 6: What we've heard so far, I think is a mixed bag. 610 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 14: There are certainly some areas where it sounds like consumers 611 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 14: and businesses in the US are going to have zero 612 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 14: percent tariffs on things that they import, which is exciting, 613 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 14: But there are other areas where that may go up to, 614 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 14: as you mentioned, fifteen percent, And given the fact that 615 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 14: tariffs on imports previously we're about one and a half 616 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 14: to two percent, that means in those particular areas that 617 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 14: businesses and consumers could end up paying more. There are 618 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 14: other areas that maybe even more than that, and there 619 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 14: are certain things that they haven't quite figured out yet. 620 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 14: So the art of the deal continues on. But the 621 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 14: good news, if you want to take away something to 622 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 14: celebrate is that it doesn't sound like it's going to 623 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 14: get worse anytime soon. 624 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: Okay, Carol, let's zoom out for a minute on a 625 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: much more macro level. We all know Donald Trump's feelings 626 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: on China, on our manufacturing being in China, on buying 627 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: things from and I mean. 628 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: This is what everyone knows Trump talks about China. 629 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: I got all that are Trump's trade deals that you 630 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: see right now. Do you think this isn't an effort 631 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: to economically isolate China. 632 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 4: I think that. 633 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 14: There are probably a number of different competing interests, and 634 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 14: I think it depends on the day of what it 635 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 14: is that the Trump administration is trying to do. On 636 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 14: one hand, they do want to isolate China or China 637 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 14: as the case may be, and take away some of 638 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 14: their economic power. That being said that we are very 639 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 14: very dependent upon them, especially in critical areas where we 640 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 14: do not have the ability to day to make that 641 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 14: conscious uncoupling as it may be. Now, I'm saying that, 642 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 14: I'm not saying that we shouldn't go ahead and try 643 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 14: to do that, and we should try to find other sources. 644 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,959 Speaker 6: But this is a long term process, and. 645 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 14: So that's why there is this little bit of a 646 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 14: dance back and forth because we cannot completely decouple ourselves 647 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 14: from China or frankly many other countries around the world 648 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 14: meaningfully today without it impacting our economic and national security. 649 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: So much like Eric Swallow, we shouldn't have coupled with 650 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: China to begin with, but I did. 651 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 4: So how long. 652 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: Does it take now, Carol, or how long should it 653 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: take to uncouple? 654 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 14: Well, you know, if it was a company, it would 655 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 14: probably be a couple of years minimum for them to 656 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 14: be able to do it a big company. But it's 657 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 14: a country, and we have all of this political theater 658 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 14: and red tape that we need to get through. Plus 659 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 14: we have a changing over in Congress every couple of 660 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 14: years and at the White House level every four to 661 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 14: eight years. So it makes it very difficult. Where China 662 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 14: can think about decades or even some cases centuries, for us, 663 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 14: we have all of these these shifts and changes that 664 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 14: make it very difficult to. 665 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 6: Execute the strategy. 666 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 14: I was reading a piece of economic research over the 667 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 14: weekend from Luke Grohman, and he said it very well 668 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 14: that America is very good at creating the narratives and 669 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 14: the marketing and the announcements, but we aren't so great 670 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 14: at execution, and unfortunately, execute is what is going to 671 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 14: win the day. So you know, if I were being 672 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 14: an advisor here, I would certainly focus on the areas 673 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 14: that are most critical, those things that impact our defense, 674 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 14: our national security, things like pharmaceuticals, you know, really critical 675 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 14: infrastructure areas, and I wouldn't worry about kind of all 676 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 14: the other goods and services that you know, there's always 677 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 14: going to be some level of international trade on. So 678 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 14: I think hopefully over time that's kind of how this 679 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 14: plays out, but certainly for the for the short term, 680 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 14: it's going to take a longer term to be able 681 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 14: to sort this stuff out when it comes to the 682 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 14: country level politics. 683 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: Okay, so that brings me to the actual individual every 684 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: person watching this. Grocery prices are still too high. The 685 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: prices of everything are still too high, Caroll. Realistically, are 686 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: we going to see these things come down? I mean, 687 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: I realize inflation shot through the roof under Joe Biden. 688 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 2: It is not massively dropped so far will it? Can it? 689 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 14: So we talked about this a lot under the Biden administration, 690 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 14: and inflation is a measure of growth. So when you 691 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 14: have a slowing of the growth rate, it doesn't mean 692 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 14: you have what's called deflation, which is prices going down. 693 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 6: And I think that a lot of people are confused 694 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 6: on that. 695 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 14: We have seen that rate of growth certainly slow, but 696 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 14: you're not going to find things that are cheaper because 697 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 14: we're not having deflation. And that's also accompanied by a 698 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 14: whole host of problems. So until people's wages start to 699 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 14: catch up to these increases in the cost of living 700 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 14: that we saw over the last four years, I think 701 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 14: that Americans are going to feel a world of hurt. 702 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 14: And my concern is, given our fiscal foundation and particularly 703 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 14: the mess that the Biden administration left us in terms 704 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 14: of deficits to GDP, debt to GDP, and interest and 705 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 14: so on, that any solution to try to tackle that 706 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 14: is going to only reignite inflation down the road. So 707 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 14: I do have concerns that we are not only not 708 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 14: going to see a shift in the short term where 709 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 14: people are feeling relief, but it actually may get much 710 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 14: worse before it gets better. But there are sort of 711 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 14: no good options, so we need to pick the path 712 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 14: with the least amount of pain, and it's still going 713 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 14: to be painful. 714 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So what about growing our way at least partially 715 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: out of this mess? And I know, moron wash I am, 716 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: but I understand well enough that every time you get 717 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: some big spending politician who doesn't want to cut spending 718 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: at all, which is basically all of them, they all 719 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: just say, well, we'll grow our way out of it. 720 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: So that's the line they all the big spenders love 721 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: to use. But can we grow our way out of it? 722 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 14: So it's certainly possible, but it would take a lot 723 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 14: of you know, things to line up and happen that 724 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 14: I don't see happening. We would need massive deregulation and 725 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 14: text cuts that are you know, more significant than what 726 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 14: we just codified. And given the fact that a lot 727 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 14: of what we just codified, you know, existed previously, really 728 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 14: new tax cuts that are going to drive a lot 729 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 14: of growth. I think that's one issue. If we had 730 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 14: some sort of a productivity or energy miracle, let's say, 731 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 14: you know, some some kind of crazy development on the 732 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 14: energy front, that's something that could really propel us forward quickly. 733 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 14: But again, given our electrical grid, given our lack of 734 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 14: workers in key areas like you know, electricians and welders 735 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,479 Speaker 14: and things like that. Given a regulatory environment and given 736 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 14: all of the bickering in Washington, I think that that's 737 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 14: going to be harder to see happen. 738 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 6: So we do need. 739 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 14: To continue to pound the table on growth and remove barriers. 740 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 14: I would argue that having terriers or tariffs for a 741 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 14: small business things like that put up more barriers. So 742 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 14: if we want to grow our way out, we need 743 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 14: to get start getting rid of these things, not putting 744 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 14: up more of them. But I don't think that that 745 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 14: is going to work on its own. And certainly it 746 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 14: can lessen the pain that we're talking about, but there's 747 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 14: a possibility and a probability. And when I tell you, Jesse, 748 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 14: I'm not a betting woman. 749 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 6: I'm not someone who likes to go to Vegas or anything. 750 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 14: If I if I had the opportunity to take the 751 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 14: bet and say we're going to see this this energy 752 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 14: miracle or something that helps us grow our way out 753 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 14: of this, I put my money on saying not going 754 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 14: to happen. 755 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 2: Here was Trump and Jerome Powell last week. 756 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 4: Like I just got a long way to go. 757 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 3: There are there things a chirming can say to you 758 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 3: today that would make you back off some of the 759 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 3: earlier criticisms. 760 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 10: Well, I'd love him to lower interest Other than that, 761 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,720 Speaker 10: what can I tell. 762 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 2: You is it going to lower interest? 763 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 14: Well, first of all, I'm waiting for the for Trump 764 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 14: to turn the FED into a golf course and you know, 765 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 14: a hotel or something like that. 766 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 6: I feel like when you. 767 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 14: See him walking with the Powell through that office and 768 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 14: you can see it, like the light's going off, like ooh, 769 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 14: I could see something really nice going on here. In 770 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 14: terms of lowering interest rates. We do have a FED 771 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 14: meeting this week, and if at the beginning of the year, 772 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 14: if you had said, hey, let's look to July, you know, 773 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 14: what's the outlook for July. I think a lot of 774 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 14: people were thinking that this is a meeting where you 775 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 14: might see a rate cut. However, I today, a couple 776 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 14: days before that meeting, do not believe we are going 777 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 14: to see a rate cut, and the FED has been 778 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 14: pretty good about telegraphing their intentions ahead of time. I 779 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 14: don't think that they are going to surprise, which means 780 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 14: now everybody's going to be looking to September. Part of 781 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 14: the issue is actually good economic news Jesse. We've had 782 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 14: strong retail sales, We have fairly solid labor. We have 783 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 14: the stock market, even though it's not exactly the economy, 784 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 14: but still it's a measure that it's looked at. It 785 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 14: is hitting all time highs every week. So it's very 786 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 14: difficult for somebody to make the argument that FED policy 787 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 14: is holding back the economy when you're getting data like that. 788 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 14: And I think that with that and the concerns over 789 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 14: tariffs and what's ahead, unfortunately, the FED is probably not 790 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 14: going to cut now. Personally, do I think that they 791 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 14: could cut I do. I think that they could take 792 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 14: a full percent and that would not ignite inflation, and 793 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 14: that they have a lot of room to maneuver given 794 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 14: the history of where interest rates had been and how 795 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 14: many businesses and consumers. 796 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 6: Took down debt. 797 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 14: I think it would actually probably be a little bit 798 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 14: of a relief. But the expectation is that's probably not 799 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 14: happening this week, and then we'll look for language to 800 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 14: see what's going to happen in September. 801 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 1: I guess fingers crossed. Thank you, Carol, I appreciate it. 802 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: We have an amazing enlightening moon next. All right, it 803 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: is time to lighten the mood and I'm going to 804 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: do the best I can, as I always do, to 805 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: be extremely nice here. But Rush Limbaugh had a great line. 806 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: He had many of them, but he had such a 807 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 1: great line where he said, politics is for ugly people. 808 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: There's Hollywood for ugly people. That's the line. Politics is 809 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: Hollywood for ugly people. And obviously it's a funny line, 810 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 1: it's a true line. But I don't know that I've 811 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 1: ever seen a better example of this than Eric Swalwell. 812 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about his physical appearance. But Eric Swalwell, 813 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: that dork congressman from California, the one who had an 814 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: affair with the Chinese spy, the one who farted on camera, 815 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: the one who repeatedly uses the most cringe lame lines ever. 816 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 1: He put out something this weekend. In honestly, the whole 817 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: thing made me laugh. 818 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 2: Who it was. 819 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 15: I should be working right now. I should be in Congress. 820 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 15: I should be voting to lower your costs. But instead 821 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 15: I'm in a pool because Republicans sent everyone home because 822 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,439 Speaker 15: they don't want to release the epstein Flas. We could 823 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 15: be working to lower your costs, make sure healthcare is affordable, 824 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 15: and make sure we're restoring the rights. 825 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 16: Of everyone in our committee. I should be working right now. 826 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 16: I should be working right now. I should be at 827 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,720 Speaker 16: the Capitol. I should be in a suit. 828 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 17: Instead, Republicans sent us home because they would rather stand 829 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 17: up for Donald Trump than release the Epstein files and 830 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 17: stand up for victims. We could be at Washington, DC, 831 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 17: lowering your healthcare costs, lowering your grocery costs, and restoring 832 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 17: your rights. 833 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:53,919 Speaker 4: I should be working right now. 834 00:44:54,440 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 17: Instead, I'm probably n Iron at the gym. 835 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: This is why I'm telling you right now, this is 836 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: why the Chinese targeted him with the Chinese honey pot spy, 837 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: because look, you could see that Eric Swalwell is a 838 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 1: massive nerd from across the Pacific Ocean. And this dork 839 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: has probably been a dork his entire life and made 840 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: fun of and all of a sudden, you're at a 841 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: bar one night and some hot Chinese chick comes up 842 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 1: to you and you don't have. 843 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 2: A chance to say no. That's why I'm telling you 844 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 2: I'll see them all