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Speaker 1: Lollo Low. I don't normally sound quite as crokey, but

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Speaker 1: it was a little bit of a late night last night.

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Speaker 1: My sister was in town for a few days over

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Speaker 1: friend Mark Lupoh, hey, Lupy, are you there? Lewis here

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Speaker 1: and feeling well rested, Robes. This sounds nice. More do

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Speaker 1: you wake up in the Mark with a very sore

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Speaker 1: voice because you've just been talking too much? I mean,

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Speaker 1: You're traveling when not, You're going home for the holidays

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Speaker 1: to see your mom Doris tomorrow at tomorrow morning, Doris.

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Speaker 1: Doris says, does she have a tree up? It's a

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Speaker 1: is it, my friends? It is tea time. So Britney

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Speaker 1: Spears has reached out to her a strange Mammy Lynn

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Speaker 1: Spears saying, quote, let's have coffee. However, before you get

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Speaker 1: let me explain. So Brittany said, quote, after no coffee

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Speaker 1: That's the role I play on the big TV show.

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Speaker 1: I didn't write, but that's fine. Maybe I had a

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Speaker 1: Your need for acceptance can make you invisible in the world.

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Speaker 1: to the Naughty but Nice Show. Don't forget to subscribe

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