1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Ah, beaut Force. If it doesn't work, you're just not 2 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to Software Radio Special Operations, military 3 00:00:25,520 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: news and straight talk with the guys and the community 4 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: softwrep dot Com on time on target in Scotto. Here 5 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: Jack Murphy is here and on with us because we 6 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: haven't had him on in a couple of months. Alex Hollings, 7 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: the last time I saw you was Shot Show, which 8 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: we'll get into. Um, and we haven't had you on 9 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: the podcast, you know since prior to then. Yeah, I'm 10 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: glad to be back mere. Thanks for having me back 11 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: on anytime, dude. I just figured it was a while there. 12 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: The audience wanted to hear from you. They also wanted 13 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: to hear an update on the old name fitness column, 14 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: so we'll get into that. Um. The first thing I 15 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: wanted to get to though, we had an email sent 16 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: to Softwrep dot Radio at soft rep dot com. Uh, 17 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: and this was kind of more of a question for me, 18 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: which you know, I figured I'll answer. Uh. So someone 19 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: might have brought this up before, but I detect strong 20 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: influences in the softwarep podcast theme song to Harold fault 21 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: Meyer's top Gun theme song and let me jump in there. Uh, 22 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: it's it's him as well as Steve Stevens who does 23 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: the sick guitar work on the top Gun theme. Am 24 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: I right? Or am I drunk? Please fulfill my curiosity? Uh? 25 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: And that is from Chris Hodgen. Uh absolutely Chris. So 26 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I was using the top Gun theme 27 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: as an outro, and then at a certain point I 28 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: started to think, all right, I don't want to get 29 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: flagged for this. We might as well, with how far 30 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: that we've gone on this podcast, get some original music. Uh. 31 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: My friend John Burns is just an amazing guitar player, 32 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: so I flat outside him, like, can you create something 33 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: that sounds somewhat similar to the um to the Top 34 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: Gun theme? And he said he could, so I figured 35 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: I would, um, you know, go with that. He sent 36 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: it to me and it's fucking awesome. I think it's 37 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: a great theme. So I will plug John on that 38 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: note if if you like his work John Burns band 39 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: dot com and that's spelled John b y r n 40 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: e S band dot com. His music, UM that he 41 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: typically does zact really a little bit more bluesy than 42 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: something like that, but he does stuff of all different styles. Um. Anyway, 43 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: with that out of the way, before we get into 44 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: like what you're working on, Alex, I figured we'd get 45 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: like your firsthand account of shot Show going for the 46 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: first time, um, just the other month. Yeah, man, so 47 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: was I think it was everything I expected it to be, 48 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: both the good and the bad of it. It was 49 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: a blast, you know, first and foremost. I had a 50 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: blast meeting some of the readers at the software party 51 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: that we had during Shot Show. It's it was a 52 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: surreal experience for me to get to meet a stranger 53 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: who knew my name and had read my work. I 54 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: live here in the woods of Georgia, so, you know, 55 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: like we were talking about before we came on air, 56 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: the internet is still a fairly new thing here, you know. 57 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: So when I tell people that I heard from home 58 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: on the internet, no one knows what I'm talking about. 59 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: You know. It's so funny that you say that, though, 60 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: because I I said this prior, but I mean for 61 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: the audience, it's funny. I know there's a lot of 62 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: crossover with this audience and Joe Rogan, and I heard 63 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan say before that the way he put it, 64 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: he was like, there's no stupid parts of the country anymore. 65 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: And he was saying, like, I travel from comedy club 66 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: to comedy club, from you know, the Midwest to the coasts. 67 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: And he's like, people are in the know about the 68 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: same stuff because of the Internet. But well, you're saying, 69 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: seems to conflict with that a little bit. You know. 70 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: I think it has to do with demographic. I bet 71 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: you Joe Rogan's demo, you know, the same as Sovereign's demo. 72 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: They're they're pretty savvy, you know, they're on there the Internet. 73 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: Otherwise they're not listening to a podcast or going to 74 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: our website. But when you're talking about guys like my 75 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: next door neighbor whose name is Grizzly, you know, he 76 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: still lives in the same house that he grew up in. 77 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: You know, when his mother passed, she left it to him, 78 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: like fourty or fifty years ago. He had plumbing put 79 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: into the house. You know, he's that type of guy. 80 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: And he does have the Internet on his phone, so 81 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't quite understand what that means. Any have zero 82 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: interest whatsoever and owning a computer, you know, And I 83 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: think that there's there are a lot of those people 84 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: still out there. You know, guys are the older generation 85 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: that just they're not really all that interested in what's 86 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: going on in the rest of the world because they 87 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: have their own little world here and they're focused on that. 88 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a bad thing, but very different, 89 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: you know. And there's a lot of those people in Georgia. Yeah, 90 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: that's funny. Here's up. I can tell you. Last year 91 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: I went to South Dakota and I felt like, all right, 92 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: these people are not that much different from me. It 93 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: was a great time. But um, anyway, back back to 94 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: shot Show and your experience of it, um beyond just 95 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: like the team room party, what did you think of uh, 96 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, the stuff that you actually saw on the floor. 97 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: I know, I know you're a big gun guy. Yeah, 98 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: you know, I come from a very different perspective. I 99 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: think that a lot of the guys that go to 100 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: shot Show. I'm a very budget oriented shooter. You know. 101 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: I love my guns, I love my gear. But my 102 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: wife will yell at me if I spend too much money. 103 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: You know, I've got I've only have so much money 104 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: per months that I can allocate to getting new, neat stuff. 105 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: So when I see something that costs a thousand dollars, 106 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: it's almost always a no right off the bat and 107 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: shot show is full of a lot of stuff that 108 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: costs a thousand dollars or more, especially having a new kid. 109 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: I should add in there like that probably factors into that. Yeah, absolutely, 110 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, And don't get me wrong there, it's awesome 111 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: if you can afford to have a big pile of 112 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 1: thousand dollars apiece equipment sitting in your office or your basement, 113 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: but you want to gear up and go patrol your 114 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: personal compound. If you can afford to do that, You're 115 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: cool and I'd love to hang out with you. But 116 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: but I'm not that guy, you know. So when I 117 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: walked through and I'm like, well, this kevlar helmet looks 118 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: remarkably like the one I wore on the Marine Corps 119 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: five years ago, but this one costs six thousand dollars, 120 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: so it must be better. But it's hard for me 121 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: to get that excited about it. But it is awesome 122 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: to get to go and experience with a culture I 123 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: guess of it. You know, a bunch of like minded 124 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: people with similar interests. You know, everyone was very friendly. 125 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: It was a it was a very positive environment, even 126 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: if a lot of the gear maybe it wasn't my taste, 127 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: you know. So I'm gonna ask you then the same 128 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: thing I asked Phil Avanti on the last episode, who's 129 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: that shot show? Like what did you see and pretend cure? 130 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: If anything that that really stood out to you. But 131 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: one thing that was really cool was like this self 132 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: propelled I mean it was like a Batman grappling gun, 133 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, it would It was an electronic motor that 134 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: could pull up I think it was something like six pounds. 135 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: It was really cool. They actually they let me harness 136 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: up and go up to the ceiling of the main floor. 137 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: That yeah, you know, it was fun. However, once I 138 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: got back down to the ground, I was like, so 139 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: what contracts you guys have you know, I'm sure you 140 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: have some and they were like, yeah, we're contracted to 141 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: a lot of Tier one Special Operations units and I 142 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: was like, okay, well which one's mostly China? And I 143 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, then I'm not actually interested in covering, 144 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: Like I'd be much more interested in talking because every 145 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: one of the good guys. But it wasn't awesome piece 146 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: of gear. It really went from what they told me. 147 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: There's a competitor UH team that has a similar unit 148 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: in our Tier one soft units. Uh. It was super 149 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: cool though, And that's the big takeaway I got from 150 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: it is I felt like Batman, And that's really all 151 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: that I asked. That's the best case scenario for me. 152 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: But a lot of the other stuff that was awesome, 153 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: Like Marines are probably familiar with ISNA. It's I'm not 154 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: sure if the isn't it was, if it's the same acronym, 155 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: or if they use that in the Army Jack's maybe 156 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: you could tell me it's like a virtual shooting simulator, 157 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: not that I'm aware of. In the Marine Corps, we 158 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: had it, especially when I was training reservists, and I 159 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: have to assume it's more cost effective to put them 160 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: in the trainer than it is to get them out 161 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: of the range all the time. But it was terrible, 162 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, it was It was a really bad piece 163 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: of equipment that you know, you point the rifle six 164 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: inches to the left on the screen of where you 165 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: wanted to hit. You know, you couldn't really put a 166 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: lot of different variables into play, like wind and stuff 167 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: like that. It was an unrealistic representation of shooting. But 168 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: we put guys in there all the time. Because we 169 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: thought it was better to get I guess unrealistic training 170 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: than none at all when I was at shot. That 171 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: is another system. I wish I could remember the name 172 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: of it, but it could run off of a commercial laptop. 173 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: You could put all kinds of variables in it, from 174 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: wind speed and direction to different types of weather, two 175 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: different shooting scenarios. What was really cool about it is 176 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: that it came with a battery pack taser that you 177 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: wore on your belt, so as you're firing, when people 178 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: fire back at you, it would taste you and they 179 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: could control the duration of the tas how much it hurts, 180 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: things like that. So it really gave you this sense 181 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: that you were firing under dress reforcement, some negative reinforcement. Yeah, absolutely. 182 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: You know, if you if you weren't responding fast enough, 183 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: you would start to get a shock, and if you 184 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: continue to not respond fast enough, the shock throw it was. 185 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: It was really cool. It was a lot of fun. 186 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: That's what's cool about conventions, you know. I've been to 187 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: a bunch of car ones in a past life. What 188 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: I always like to see is the new technology that 189 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: maybe isn't out there yet, but we can expect to 190 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: see in the next couple of years, you know. I mean, 191 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: the technology exists, but it's not cost effective at this point, 192 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: but it will be soon, and I think that's really cool. Yeah, 193 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: but nothing on the level of Um, remember when we're 194 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: talking about Sophick Jack and the Iron Man suit, Like, 195 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: there's nothing like that currently you know, going to be 196 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: on the market. But then again, that would also be 197 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: just military grade stuff, which is not what Shot Show is. 198 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: But I thought that was the most impressive thing I 199 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: heard of. That was the Iron Man suit, which components 200 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: of an Iron Man we talked about in the show. 201 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: There's a couple of different ones. Yeah, I don't remember 202 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: the actual name, but I mean that's pretty cool and 203 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: you're not going to see anything like that at Shot 204 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: Show though, the very different you guys you're talking about 205 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: the tallos, Yes, yeah, that I would have liked to 206 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: have seen. Um anyway, that's been more interested in that 207 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: and seeing another another you know, plate carrier to be honest, 208 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: but you know, it was still cool. Yeah. Um. So yeah, 209 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: getting into what you've been working on. I know very 210 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: little about this, and I don't think Jack is completely 211 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: in the know either, so I just want to hear 212 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: about it. From you. You were saying that there's some 213 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: interesting response from the Department of Defense regarding UFOs, and 214 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: I want to hear all about that. It's actually so 215 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: the whole story gets kind of weird and convoluted. This 216 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: UFO story is we're kind of the tinfoil hat portion 217 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: of the Internet meets the legitimate journalism portion of the Internet, 218 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: which makes it complicated sometimes to really root out the truth. 219 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: But but what we do know for sure is that 220 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: up until very recently and probably ongoing, the Pentagon actually 221 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: has been devoting a fair amount of funds to studying 222 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: military reports unidentified flying objects. Right. But it's important that 223 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: we create a distinction right here to keep the tinfoil 224 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: hats off. When we say unidentified flying objects, we don't 225 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: mean alien spacecraft. In my opinion, I'd love to believe 226 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: there's aliens here. I'm really not sold on the prospect. 227 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: So when we say unidentified flying objects, we're really talking 228 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: about what may well be advanced military aircraft, you know, 229 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: particularly if we see it flying in American airspace. We 230 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: need to be concerned because of China or Russia are 231 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: fielding some kind of aircraft with maneuverability that we can't match, 232 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: or stealth capabilities that we can't match. That's a real 233 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: concern from the national defense standpoint, you know, so it 234 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: makes sense that they're studying these things. The New York 235 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: Times broke that they really have I believe. The program 236 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: was called the Advanced Aerial Phenomenon Aviation Threat Identification Program, 237 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: something along those lines. It was run by a former 238 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: m I guy military intelligence named Louis Elizondo. Uh. And 239 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: they did throw a lot of money at this, but 240 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: it's not that much money in terms of defense spending, 241 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: but about twenty two million dollars over the span of 242 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: seven years. Over the span of seven years, not really 243 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: that yeah, you know, so most of what they were 244 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: able to do was I mean, you'd call that a 245 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: shoe string budget. His most Pentagon investigations are concerned. You know. 246 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: It started in two thousand seven, and most of what 247 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: they would do is they would piggyback on other D 248 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: O D investigations, uh that that revolved around these mysterious sightings. 249 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: One really prominent one that was released by ALISANDO was 250 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: two Navy F A E Team Hornets who were sent 251 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: to intercept a UFO that was off the coast of 252 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: San Diego. They were directed that way by I think 253 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: it was a local cruiser that was He called them 254 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: up on the radio and asked if they were carrying armaments. 255 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: They weren't. They were carrying dummy missiles that you would 256 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: normally fly with, just to get an understanding of how 257 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: your aircraft will respond to that weight on your wings, 258 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: things like that. Uh, they tried to intercept this. They 259 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: had a lot of trouble doing it. Uh. They recorded 260 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: it all with a fleer camera and they released that 261 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: just recently. It was declassified. Now I'm not going to 262 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: tell you that those are aliens, nor am I going 263 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: to tell you that it was maybe a manned aircraft. 264 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: But what it was was interesting and disconcerting. You know 265 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: that these I mean, these are supersonic capable fighters. They 266 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: weren't able to keep up with the radar signature. It 267 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: disappeared from radar, and then they weren't able to keep 268 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: up with it visually. You know, it's an interesting phenomenon, 269 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: whether it's ball lightning, which is a naturally occurring phenomenon, 270 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: or a drone aircraft, or you know, honestly, something as 271 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: simple as you know, some kind of a cyber warfare 272 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: technique that you would use to put radar signatures on 273 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: somebody's scope, you know, just to distract them. There's a 274 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: lot of things it could be, most of which are 275 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: not aliens. But it's interesting now that we don't understand 276 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: what it is, and the U. S. Navy isn't the 277 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: only one. The Chilean Navy two years ago released a 278 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: video that was fleear footage that they accorded to them, 279 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: studied for two years and couldn't understand what it was, 280 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: so they released it publicly and said, can you guys, 281 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: who's can anybody you know give us a hint as 282 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: to what this is, you know? And I think it's 283 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: especially interesting when you see like these military your camera footage, 284 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: just because it gives you a good sense of what 285 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: a weird thing this is in the sky. Uh, you know. 286 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: In both cases it's just kind of like a bright smudge. 287 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: In one case it released like what looked like, I 288 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: guess some kind of an exhaust plume. It makes you realize, Okay, 289 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: so there's a physical thing out there that they're not 290 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: able to identify, and maybe somebody can, but they're not 291 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: willing to. I get excited because this all sounds to 292 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: me like prototype aircraft. You know, when I grew up 293 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: knowing that we had some kind of a secret you know, 294 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: stealth fighter which was the Effluence seventeen, uh, you know, 295 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: and hearing about the B two Spirit but never really 296 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: seeing one. You know. My my wife's cousin was a 297 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: B two pilot, uh is a lot older than we are, 298 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: and she grew up with like legends of this B 299 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: two aircraft, you know. And that's what I think that 300 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: we might be seeing in some of these UFO sightings today, 301 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: is maybe the B twenty one Rader, you know, maybe 302 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: an SR seventy two prototype there. It would seem to 303 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: me that there are aircraft up in the sky right 304 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: now that we have a disclosed, maybe because they're not 305 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: operational or be classified yet, but there could be something 306 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: floating around out there, and that's exciting to me. You know, Yeah, 307 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: that's interesting. You want to you know, sooner or later 308 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: someone's going to snap a picture of them, you know, 309 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: if it has to do like an emergency landing and 310 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: a civilian airport or something like that. I mean, if 311 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: it's not just a natural phenomenon, if it is actually 312 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, an experimental or you know, top secret aircraft. Yeah, 313 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, And that's an important distinction to make, because 314 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: I mean I recently ran an article on software where 315 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: I took a map that was created by you know, 316 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: one of these tinfoil hat website databases where anybody can 317 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: go in report seeing a UFO in the sky, and 318 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: then it'll put a little tin, you know, on the 319 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: on the map of America of where these UFO sightings 320 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: take place. And what I did was I overlaid that 321 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: with a map of US military installations, and you know, 322 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: there's bunches when you look at the map, there's UFO 323 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: sightings bunches, and they almost always correlate with military instill nations. 324 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: And I think that explains a lot. It's not that 325 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: these are necessarily all secret aircraft flying around. It's that 326 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: people aren't that good at identifying military aircraft and the 327 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: way they behave it's different than commercial traffic. I'm sorry, 328 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: especially at night. You know, I'm as guilty of that 329 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: as anybody. You know. I live right near de law 330 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: Aga where the Rangers do a lot of training, and 331 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of helicopter traffic around here, and at night, 332 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 1: when you see three low flying helicopters in the distance, 333 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: like combing up over the little mountain in the woods 334 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: that I live on. It looks crazy. Even when I'm like, oh, 335 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: that's definitely helicopters, I still sit out there and stare. 336 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: You know, it looks weird. They don't behave like commercial aircraft. 337 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: They fly lower, you know, they take different changes in 338 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: their trajectory, you know, whereas commercial aircraft you see them 339 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 1: up high, they follow one straight line more often than not. 340 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: Military helicopters, on the other hand, might all turn right suddenly, 341 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: you know, and what you see in the sky as 342 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: a triangle of it's that suddenly made a really dramatic turn, 343 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: you know. It's it's easy to make these mistakes. It's 344 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: not because anybody wants to be, you know, a UFO hunter, 345 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: and maybe some of them do, but a lot of 346 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: them are just like, man, what the heck was that? 347 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: You know. A good example there was a huge Air 348 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: Force operation I want to see in December where on Twitter, 349 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everybody was posting videos and pictures. 350 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: That's something that looks similar to the Phoenix flights, which 351 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: is a pretty famous UMO sighting from the nineties. It 352 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: looked like a giant boomerang in the sky flying east 353 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: to west, heading out towards the west. It turned out 354 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: it was actually a huge formation of something like seventeen 355 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: seven teams and thirties thirties that we're all heading out 356 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: west for one joint operation. But you know, you see 357 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: something like that in the night sky, you think the 358 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: sky is following, you know, uh, really really cool stuff. 359 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: So it's fun to track the UFO trends because they 360 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: almost always lead to a really cool story about real 361 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: guys doing real stuff, sometimes advanced stuff that we can't 362 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: hear about today, but but it's always cool to try 363 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: to find that tidbit, you know. A good example of 364 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: that also would be in Siberia. There's been a lot 365 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: of UFO sightings that are just huge bright lights in 366 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: the sky, and if you ask me what they probably 367 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: were were test launches of the star Mat, the r MAT, 368 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: the Satan Too I CBM. You saw SpaceX's rockets. When 369 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: the first stage in the second stage separate, they sometimes 370 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: create like this big aurora in the sky. You know, 371 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: it looks like it looks like a portal or a vortex. 372 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: And I have a sneaking suspicion that that's exactly what 373 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: we saw in Siberia was the first stage of the 374 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: star mat separating from the second and creating this aurora. 375 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: But because Russia is not going to announce that they're 376 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: testing their new I CBM, you know, what you're left 377 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: with is a bunch of questions on Twitter and on 378 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: Instagram and these really neat pictures. And you know, Russia's 379 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, notoriously closed lift when it comes to these things. 380 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: They've never announced anything until after it's been a success, 381 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 1: you know, so you really won't know in a lot 382 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: of these cases. But but I do think of these 383 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: cases are explainable if you had, you know, a high 384 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: enough security clearance and whatever nation it was that you 385 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: were operating in, Because I really do like there was 386 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: another sighting near Seattle a few months ago that appeared 387 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: on radar and then didn't. The National Guard, the Air 388 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: national Guard actually scrambled f F F teams to intercept. They 389 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: had a visual confirmation on something in the distance after 390 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: it fell off radar. I'd be went in to bed 391 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: northern California area. That was an experimental drone, you know, 392 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: and what better way to test it than to let 393 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: some Air National Guard guys go and try to hunt 394 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: it down. You know, I again, there's no way I 395 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: can tell you for sure that it wasn't aliens. But 396 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: there's no way I can tell you for sure that 397 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: it was. But I would be willing to believe it 398 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: was a drone just based on you know, what you're 399 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: able to glean um through you know, open source for research. 400 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: What kind of experimental aircraft do you think the United 401 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: States government might be playing around with some you know, 402 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: some of the more cutting edge stuff that perhaps we 403 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: haven't heard about yet. The two of that I'm the 404 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: most excited about are the SR seventy two, which I'm 405 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: sure everybody's familiar with. The SR seventy one. It still 406 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: holds the record as the fastest military aircraft that's ever 407 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: taken to the skies. You know, the SR seventy one 408 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: was an incredible aircraft, you know it was. It was 409 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: a touchy one, you know, it really didn't. It was 410 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: a lot like a Hyabusa. For the motorcycle guys out there, 411 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: the Hyah Boosta is not all that manageable at like 412 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: traffic speeds. You know, it's a big, heavy, lunky motorcycle 413 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 1: that doesn't maneuver real well, but at two miles an 414 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: hour Highaboosa, it's like going through butter. The SR seventy 415 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: one was very similar. It was tough to manage until 416 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: you had it right in your low earth orbit and 417 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: going mock three, and that's when it really came into 418 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: its own. It's a legendary aircraft. We haven't had anything 419 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: that could even touch it since. Lockheed and and Boeing 420 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: are now competing for a contract to create a successor 421 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: to the SR seventy one that's been dubbed the SR 422 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: seventy two. That's gonna use scramjet technology combined with stuff. 423 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: Scram jets are going to be a game changer for 424 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: military aviation because they're capable of instead of supersonic speeds, 425 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: that are capable of hypersonic, which is they were looking 426 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: at that for rockets too, aren't they. Absolutely, Especially China 427 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: and Russia both are already starting to field anti ship 428 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: missiles missiles or something. Absolutely, this is one of the 429 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: missiles that Prutin was talking about in his recent speech. 430 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: That's got everybody else, uh this. This scramjet technology is 431 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: pretty indefensible in terms of a missile. They travel so 432 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: fast they usually won't be able to identify or track 433 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: them on the trajectory, and they follow an almost horizontal 434 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: flight path, which makes our missile defense apparatus next to 435 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: useless in terms of trying to intercept. They're so fast 436 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: that you usually won't know they're coming until they've hit you. 437 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: And the operational range on them is eight miles in 438 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: most cases are carrier strike groups. The operational range of 439 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: our aircraft is only about five hundred. So these these 440 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: things are game changers in terms of how we conduct 441 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: warfare because our strike groups are effectively rendered obsolete. We 442 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: can't get them close enough to Russia or China to 443 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: launch sorties of aircraft at them, because if we do, 444 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: you know, a NIMICS class or a FOURD class carrier 445 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: is a huge target for one of these hypersonic missiles. 446 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's we're gonna have to change the way 447 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: we fight wars based on this technology. And that's why 448 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: I think the SR seventy two it's going to be 449 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: such a big deal for US, especially you combine you know, 450 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: F thirty five or F twenty two or further advanced 451 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: to stealth technologies with an aircraft that's capable of traveling 452 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: at MOX six and you know, that changes the way 453 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: we conduct warfare in a very real way. Especially they 454 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: why they'd be going back, um, you know, pursuing again 455 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: this idea of you know, uh, you know, hyper velocity 456 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: or extremely fast traveling spy plane. Is it because they 457 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: think the same technology is going to eliminate some of 458 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: the other methods we have of reconnaissance. That's a great question, 459 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: because I don't understand the value of having a hypersonic 460 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: reconnaissance aircraft when we have such an elaborate satellite infrastructure 461 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: in place already. I can see there being some value 462 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: and you know, having somebody loiter, But an SS seventies 463 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: two wouldn't be able to loiter over an area, you know, 464 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: you'd have to use it like an SR seventy one, 465 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: just faster. You know, it's just gonna fly by. The 466 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: only thing I can imagine is that I, first of all, 467 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: I expected to be a drone, not a manned aircraft, 468 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: even though they haven't specified. But at that velocity, I'm 469 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: just not sure how capable of human being would be 470 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: of maneuvering, you know. But I have to assume that 471 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: they intend to arm it. The SR seventy one was 472 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: never armed, you know, it was literally just a reconnaissance aircraft. 473 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: I have to want to assume the SR seventy too 474 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: would be used for long distance bombing or things of 475 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: that nature, because I don't see the value in terms 476 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: of the money that we have to invest in developing 477 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: this technology. I don't see the value in terms of 478 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: your Thompson's I wonder, I was just wondered, I mean speculating, 479 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: do they I wonder if it's because they think that 480 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: with some of the laser technologies that you know, the 481 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 1: Chinese are developing, that they anticipate a lot of our 482 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: satellites being shot out of orbit. They really do not 483 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: only shot out of orbit, but I think a more 484 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: immediate threat is jamming. The Chinese already do this occasionally. 485 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: They'll they use ground based lasers that they used to 486 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: track the position of satellites and debris in orbit, just 487 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: like every every military really does. We need to keep 488 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: track of the debris in orbit to keep track of 489 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: our satellite infrastructure. But they've effectively tried to blind some 490 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: of our Calm satellites using these lasers. They haven't been 491 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: able to do so we're able to tell when they 492 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: engage a satellite with a lady there. But the lasers 493 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: are not powerful enough currently to cause any damage or interference. 494 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: But it's clear that all they really need to do 495 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: is turn the volume up on the lasers they have 496 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: in place to really start causing problems. So the Air 497 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: Force just announced that they intend to launch a new 498 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: constellation of GPS satellites that are that are hardened against 499 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: this type of thing, literally, just because we realize now 500 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: that our GPS satellite network is very susceptible to interference, 501 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: to damage, and our military is increasingly reliant on it. 502 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I learned land they have the 503 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: good old fashioned way with a compass and a map. 504 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm not confident though, that I could still do it. 505 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: The last time I did it was a combat training 506 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: when I learned it. You know, you see that news 507 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: report where they were gonna start teaching sailors to navigate 508 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: using the stars again. They've got it, I think, man, 509 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: I I think that it would be naive and even 510 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: presumptuous of us to assume that we'll be able to 511 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: conduct peer or near peer level warfare and maintained communications 512 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: with our satellites, for guided unitions, for navigation, for communications. 513 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: I think that if we were to go to war 514 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 1: with a nation like China, we have to assume that 515 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: those assets would be rendered obsolete. Well, Alex, the mention 516 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: of China really transitions. Well, it's something else that wanted 517 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: to get into here. Uh, you wrote a recent piece 518 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: that actually went up yesterday. Uh, NASA maybe a civilian agency, 519 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: but China's space program is unquestionably a military endeavor. Um, 520 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: you right, and here that in two thousand three, China 521 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: was the third nation to man emission to space, which 522 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: the first two were of course Russia in the US. 523 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: But as you put here, unlike the United States, which 524 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: operates NASA as a civilian space agency that often receives 525 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: military personnel on loan, China's National Space Administration could be 526 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: better seen as a joint venture between China's military and 527 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: their Commission on Science, Technology and Industry for the National Defense. 528 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: So I thought this was a pretty interesting article because, yeah, 529 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: of course you look at the space race between Russia 530 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: and the US, it was always tied to the Cold War, 531 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: it was always tied to some military operation. But from 532 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: what you're saying, China doesn't even try to hide this, 533 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: you know. You you make a great point about the 534 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: Cold War and the Space race. We pretend the space 535 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: races about national prestige, and we pretend that it was 536 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: about advancing science. The Cold War and the space race 537 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: were one and the same. The space race was just 538 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: an arm of the Cold War. We were we were 539 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: in a race to prove that we could attain the 540 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: ultimate high ground, which at the time we saw it 541 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: a little bit first, and then the Moon, you know, 542 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: once we actually there's a reason why once we started 543 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: putting men on the moon, RUSSA stopped early trying, and 544 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: so did we. You know, we haven't been back to 545 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: the Moon, not because the moon landing was faked, but 546 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 1: because there's no longer like I just threw that in there, yeah, 547 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: you know. But so NASA has always been a civilian 548 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: agency right from the get go. But that's always kind 549 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: of been a bit of their pr gimmick, you know. 550 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean the early days of NASA, NASA literally became 551 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: came into being, I think it was like nine months 552 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: after Buttnick was in orbit, you know, because we were like, 553 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: we need to respond in a very real way. It's 554 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: always been a civilian agency, because the American people play 555 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: a very big role in how NASA is operated in 556 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: terms of who they vote into office and just kind 557 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: of the general consensus of the public. If the public 558 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: doesn't see an interest in space, NASA funding dwindles, dwindles. 559 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: You know. It's funny though, because there's there was a 560 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: huge interest in Elon Musk and the Tesla flying around 561 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: the orbit with you know that being live streamed, which 562 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: I know you were a huge enthusiast of Alex So 563 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's certainly some modern day interest in the 564 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: space program, and that's a private company, um doing what 565 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: they're doing. You know, I love what SpaceX is doing. 566 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: I love what Elon Musk is doing. He's making space 567 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: travel sexy again. You know, it's marketable again. I don't 568 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: love the idea of relying on private ventures for America's 569 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: space endeavors. I think that private ventures first and foremost 570 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: pursue profitability, which is a good thing. But you know, 571 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of a Faraday. When Faraday first realized that 572 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: you could produce an electrical charge using magnets, you know, 573 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: we didn't know what we would need electricity for at 574 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: the time, so somebody asked him what good is this, 575 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: and he said, of what purpose is a newborn babe? 576 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: Because I know I invented this thing or discovered this thing, 577 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: but I don't know what good it will do yet. 578 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: Now it's the basis of every power plant we have 579 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: in the world, whether it's nuclear or coal, solar, or 580 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: what have you. Ultimately, it all has to do with 581 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: what Fara Day determined could produce an electrical current using magnets. 582 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: That's the important part of national level space endeavors is 583 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: that you solve problems that you don't necessarily know what 584 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: the question will be yet, you know. But we create 585 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: these advances that lead to advances, and they're very important 586 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: to do. But a private space venture is going to 587 00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: be less apt to pursue experimental things unless there's a 588 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: real return on investment. Government fund adventures don't look for 589 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: that r o I so much as they look for 590 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: accomplishing the goal they set set out to do. I'm 591 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: a big private enterprise guy, you know, I'm probably pretty 592 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: libertarian leaning in my personal politics, but some things I 593 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: think the government needs to pay for it, and I 594 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: think space is one of them. I love private space 595 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: mentors NASA, I mean got us to Mars, and you know, 596 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: they've had a spectacular success with the Mars Rover. But 597 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 1: I mean, do you really think that NASA is or 598 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: or let's just say a government space program, are going 599 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: to be the ones that colonize Mars. I mean, it 600 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: seems like it's gonna have to. It's gonna be capitalism 601 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna conquer Mars. No, you're right, I really think 602 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: that at this point. Well, I mean, look at the SLS, 603 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: which is NASA's new rocket that's been in development hell 604 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: for years and years. And here's a good chance for 605 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: me to apologize to NASA because I've written a few 606 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: op eds about their delays on the SLS and just 607 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: being like, when are you guys gonna actually build a 608 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: rocket again? You know, we've been hitting the ride with 609 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: the Soviet era stay use castles out of Russia's ross Cosmos, 610 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: and our our tax dollars are going towards this. So 611 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: it's a legitimate question. Yeah, we're paying Russia. Yeah, we're 612 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: paying Russia for trips to the I S S. If 613 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: you look at if you look back like maybe a 614 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: year or two years ago, there's actually some um Congress 615 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: is having some hearings about this because we buy so 616 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: many rocket engines from Russia, and they're you know, asking, 617 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, is this a potential national security issue for US? 618 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: It sounds like it. I think it's a legitimate thing 619 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: to consider. I mean, that's the reason why we don't 620 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: work with China. China doesn't have a spot in the 621 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 1: International Space Station because they won't delineate between military applications 622 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: and civilian applications in their space endeavors. So that's why 623 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: we won't let him on the i S S. It violates, 624 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 1: you know, the way the law was written when we 625 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: first started cooperating with Russia. I mean, even now as 626 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: tensions with Russia, our building you know, near the Baltics 627 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: and again over near North Korea with you know, Putin's 628 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: taskits port of Kim John Loon's regime, we're still cooperating 629 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: in space. We're still sending American astronauts out there to 630 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: launch up and to be recovered in Siberia, which they 631 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: all do. They do hard landings on ground with those 632 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: soldiers capsules. The Russians actually carry shotguns in their capsules 633 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: to protect themselves from bears and wildlife. Before the rescue 634 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: teams can arrive. This is how we're get into space 635 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 1: right now. Guys. We went to the Moon in nine 636 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: and now we're hitching a ride with like a sixty 637 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: year old Soviet capsule that's got a fucking sawed off 638 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: shotgun in it. It's it's ridiculous, you know. But so 639 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: China is now right now, actually, China's old space station 640 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: is on its way to re enter the Earth. That 641 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: will probably re enter the atmosphere in the next few weeks. Uh, 642 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: it might actually parts of the debris might actually land 643 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 1: in the United States. Most of it will probably burn up. 644 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: But they have another more advanced space station that's supposed 645 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: to be operational by and unlike them a thing space endeavors. 646 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: China is usually pretty good about meeting those deadlines. So 647 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: as the International Space Station funding dwindle dwindles away, that 648 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: will all be gone by under current models, China will 649 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: now be the only nation with a full time habitable 650 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 1: space station in orbit. The only manned presence in orbit 651 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: after undercurrent spending models will be Chinese. That's a really 652 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: big shift in how we're conducting operations. You know, that's 653 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: a concern of mine because when we when we think about, 654 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: like we were saying, how dependent we've grown on our 655 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: satellite infrastructure, on this constellation of calm and nav satellites 656 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: we've got up there. That's the only human beings in 657 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: orbit are also one of our primary diplomatic opponents, and 658 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: god help us, hopefully not but one day actual enemies. 659 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: That's a real concern. You know. We we do have 660 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,959 Speaker 1: some things up in the orbit that we don't talk about. 661 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: The X thirty seven B, you know, it's like a 662 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: drone space shuttle that stays in orbit for hundreds of 663 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: day is at the time, the Air Force won't really 664 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: say what it is. I have a sneaking suspicion it's 665 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: used for reconnaissance. You could easily put Honestly, all you 666 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: need to screw up a satellite isn't is an extendable arm. 667 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: So you could just grab it and move it. That's 668 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: all you really have to do. We could feasibly use 669 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: it to screw with other people's satellites. Still not convinced 670 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: that we could use it in any way to stop 671 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: them from screwing the dollars though, you know, we ah, 672 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: I forgot who was I think it was the general 673 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: in charge of Centcom recently said China is five years 674 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: away from operationalizing space in a military way. The United 675 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: States with our current spending platforms ten years away at best. Yeah, 676 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: they stole our technology to get a jump on us, 677 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: and now they're doing they're you know, they're using it 678 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: in a more um I don't know if efficient is 679 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: the word, but they use it. You know. The Chinese culture, 680 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, emphasizes harmonizing all of these technologies with their culture, 681 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: and there are some things they do better than us. 682 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: This reminds me if I remember when Obama ran for president, 683 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: one of his campaign promises was We're not going to 684 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: weaponize space, which actually sounds like a very positive thing. 685 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: I think to the average American there like that sounds 686 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: like a ridiculous idea. But then when you hear that's 687 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: just China getting a jump start ahead on us, Yeah, 688 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: it's a good idea for sure. I mean if because see, 689 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: here's the thing is like with on Earth here here 690 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: on planet Earth, um, we've already militarized the ground, but 691 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: in space, there's this opportunity like maybe we don't have 692 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: to continue this sort of like security standoff paradigm. Maybe 693 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: we can, you know, evolve into something else, like an 694 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: era of cooperation. You know, people fantasize about, you know, 695 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: like ideas like you see on Star Trek where it's 696 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: a spaceship with people from all these different countries working together. 697 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: I think that's the fantasy behind it, um, but will 698 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: it be the reality? That's a I don't know, what 699 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: do you think, Alex. I'm a I'm a diehard Star 700 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: Trek fan, especially TNNG. You know, I U Patrick Stewart, 701 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: John Lupicard. I refer to him as Space Dad in 702 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: our house because the impart so many important lessons. But 703 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: it's important to remember that Star Trek works in a 704 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: fictional universe. In a real one that's a socialist, utopian society. 705 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: It's a it's a post currency society, it's a post 706 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: economy society. Uh. They have replicators that just make whatever 707 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: you want. Search Trek is an awesome idea. We're a 708 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: long way away from being able to function that way. 709 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: I think politicians, just like a lot of social media warriors, 710 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: operate in this idealistic mindset where we shouldn't need guns, 711 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: we shouldn't need to weaponize space, and we shouldn't need 712 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: to worry about war with China or another world war. 713 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 1: Real and reality, these are all concerns that we need 714 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: to have and manage actively. There are real reasons why 715 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: people carry guns. There are real reasons why space is 716 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: a strategic and tactical important place. Ideal ideally shouldn't be. 717 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: We should be able to go out there and compromise 718 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: and work together the way the United States and Russia 719 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 1: has for a long time. Now. In reality, even that 720 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: compromise strategic my ad is kicking in. But it's reminding 721 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: me of the Star Trek references, reminding me of the 722 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: episode of South Park where Cartman travels into the future 723 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: and and there are no religions, and he's like, why 724 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: is all this fighting going on? And and they're like, well, 725 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: where the United Atheist Alliance? Who are fighting the United 726 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: Atheists Front. Yeah, because it's a it's an anthropology thing 727 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: more than than being just just political or being just religious. 728 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's just like we identify with different groups 729 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: of people and then we fight one another. It's like 730 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: we've been doing that since we were you know, caveman, 731 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: which is sad, bring monkeys man. That's how we're wired, 732 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: you know, We're wired to gather up into groups and 733 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: to fear the other, whatever the other might be. And 734 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, and it's important those that inclination is in 735 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: my opinion, one of the things that led to the 736 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: development of civilization because we joint we banded together with 737 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 1: other guys and just plant some food instead of chasing it. 738 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: You know. But as soon as you start to have 739 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: an asset, whether it's agriculture or it's a water you know, 740 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: a waterway that you gain control of or its orbit, 741 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: as soon as you have an asset that can be 742 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: leveraged over others, there's room for conflict another human nature, 743 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: it's nature. The other difference is that, you know, because 744 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: of technology, our wars are increasingly costly. Um, you know, 745 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: in terms of human lives. We have weapons now that 746 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: can literally destroy human civilization, you know. And again in 747 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,439 Speaker 1: terms of the environment, I mean, don't forget that. Well, yeah, 748 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: of course we sunk up the environment, but I mean, 749 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: I don't I don't care about the environment. We're all then, 750 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: quite frankly, but it is crazy. I mean, we're we're 751 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: all on the same planet. And you know, that's also 752 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: why people are looking at space as an alternative to 753 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: because at a certain point, are we going to destroy this, 754 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, ball of Earth that we live on with 755 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: all the weapons will have to expand at some point, 756 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: right It's it's a scary thought, it really is. And 757 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: the racist interesting questions about what Jack was saying about 758 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: the commercial colonization of space. How is that governed or regulate? 759 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: How do we tell the SpaceX colony on Mars that 760 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: they have to fall under our rules? You know? When 761 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: you say when you say are who is our? Is 762 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: that America? Is that the unho? Who is that? You know? 763 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: And and it's important to remember again when we're talking 764 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: about pursuing this Star Trek utopia, human beings are inherently 765 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: a problem and then the system. Every Star Trek movie 766 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: that you've seen, for the most part, always involves usually 767 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: like some kind of encroaching invasive alien species and some 768 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: asshole in the federations who think war is a good 769 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: idea or things that we should be doing. In the 770 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: Star Trek universe. That guy is always a dick in 771 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: real life. That's the guy who saves us. You know, 772 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: you need to have that. You need to have that 773 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: guy with a defensive standpoint who's like I know, you 774 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: guys think clingons a rat, but they're all carrying guns. 775 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: Maybe we should have some too. And I recognize that 776 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: my mindset doesn't lead us to the Star Trek utopia 777 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: that I like watching with my daughter, but I do 778 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: think it keeps us alive long enough to maybe one 779 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: day get there. I just think he threw in watching 780 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: Star Trek with his daughter. Your daughter is is what 781 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 1: like a month or two old? Did she really enjoyed 782 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: watching Star Trek. You've seen like nine seasons and always 783 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 1: through the X Violency and all the Star Trek episodes. 784 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: Just to throw it out there, I guess I'm the 785 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: only non nerd here because I am not a Star 786 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: Trek guy or Dungeon the Dragons professional sports. I'm an 787 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: m m A guy I certainly am with I'm not 788 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: as not as crazy as Jim West, though Jim knows 789 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: his ship, but now I'm not. Uh yeah, I'm I'm 790 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: the civilian non nerd here. I'm a late blossoming nerd, 791 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: you know, like throughout my time in the Marine Corps. 792 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: You know, I used to compete in the m m 793 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: A for a long time and stuff up until I 794 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: lost the Nile last year. Doing it, not literally, but 795 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think that the nerds stuff came later 796 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: because once I realized that, like my tough guy resume 797 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: is complete, I don't need to I don't need to 798 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: try to be cool anymore. My wife's probably not gonna 799 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: leave me. I'm just gonna go to watching Star Trek. 800 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna see this guy now, like god for 801 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: a bit. If my wife ever leaves me and I 802 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: have to find a girl that's not willing to be 803 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: yelled at about Batman, I'll be in a lot of 804 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: I'll be in a tough spot, but for now that's 805 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: going well. Being a nerds not so bad. You know. 806 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: The other thing I wanted to get to, in terms 807 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: of things you're enthusiastic about, you are also a fitness guy. 808 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 1: And I actually did get some tweets and emails saying like, 809 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: is Alex going to come on and give it us, 810 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: give us an update on his Old Man Fitness column 811 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: So get People are wondering what you've been up to 812 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: with that, and I know that you write something every 813 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: week on that, right, Yeah, I tried to. What I 814 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: really try to do is two things of the Old 815 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: Man Fitness columns. If you're looking for someone to give 816 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: you a breakdown on what work out to do to 817 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: make your triceps big, or the internet is right with them. 818 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: You know you don't need that from me. God's honest. 819 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: I've been working out for a long time. You know, 820 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: I've a last personal training certification. I used to work 821 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: as a trainer. I was in charge of the body 822 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: composition program for my unit in the Marine Corps. Or 823 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: my job was to try to make the fatties not 824 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 1: be fat anymore. Wait, wait, there's fat people in the Marines. 825 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, did you say there's fat people in the Marines. Oh? Man, 826 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: especially in the reserves. Man, there's there's this is like 827 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: heresy here, alex Well. I mean it's important to note 828 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: that we throw them out. You know, I get a 829 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: couple of months to try to make them stop being fat. 830 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: And if I wasn't successful, so like you know, and 831 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: with some of these guys. So I mean, sometimes it's 832 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: just a question to heart. If you're five pounds over, 833 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: hang out with me. I can make it was those 834 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: five pounds today. You know, you'll you'll need to drink 835 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: a lot of water after and you'll sleep well tonight. 836 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 1: But I can get you within weight today, it's whether 837 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: or not you're willing to do that. You know, when 838 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 1: I was fighting, I was walking around like two ten 839 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: to fift team and fighting, I was very familiar with 840 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 1: how horrible it is to cut weight rapidly. But man, 841 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: you can do it to keep your job, you know. 842 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: But some people just aren't that interested. A lot of guys, 843 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, join you know, the Marine Corps famously is 844 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: the toughest branch to get into, uh not academically but physically, right, 845 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: and so a lot of guys who aren't necessarily there 846 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: physically think that the Marine Corps will will be their 847 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: black belt. You know, I'm gonna go join the Marines. 848 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back from boot camp and be a 849 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: whole different guy. You brock Samson from the bench, your brothers. Now, 850 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 1: it turns out you make it through training and you 851 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: come out you're the same asshole you wear when you left. 852 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: You know, you're skinnier right now, but now it's on 853 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: you to maintain that. And some guys just don't have 854 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: it in them, you know. Um. But yeah, but when 855 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: it comes when it comes to the fitness stuff, the 856 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: internet is full of fitness. In my opinion garbage. Everybody's 857 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: trying to sell you something or market an idea to you, 858 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: primarily that to lose weight you need a fad diet. 859 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: To gain muscle, you need a fad workout regiment. And 860 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: if you want to actually accomplish anything, you need to 861 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 1: make sure you're posting about it on Instagram constantly. There's 862 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: only the three things that you learn from the Internet, 863 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: but none of that's true. But aside from all that, 864 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: you don't actually need to look like one of those 865 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: Instagram models having three percent bodies. That's not good for you. 866 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a big believer. Man keeps that spare tired. 867 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, don't want to get out of control because 868 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 1: she's got some love handles in play. That's fine, man, 869 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: your body needs so fat to operate. You might not 870 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: look like you know, Hugh Jackman does in the scenes 871 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 1: of Over Him where he takes his shirt off. But 872 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackman doesn't look like that guy either. It looked 873 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: like that guy for a week. I mean, I have 874 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for some of my friends who 875 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: are like power lifters and body builders and stuff like that, 876 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: because I know Jenkins is into that. Well, the cross 877 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: fit you know olympit. What does the cross fit games 878 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: that he's done across that game? Well, I mean those 879 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: people put a huge amount of work into what they do, 880 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: and like their entire lives revolves around, um, you know, 881 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: they're so committed to it that their whole lives revolve 882 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,800 Speaker 1: around you know, their time in the gym and the 883 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: meals they eat. Yeah, and I mean I totally respect 884 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: that that kind of dedication. But like me personally, when 885 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: I listen to them talk about what they eat and 886 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: now they eat the same meal like six times a day, 887 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I respect you, but I feel like 888 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 1: you're missing out on something in life. Like me personally, 889 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 1: I would not want to do that. Always says I 890 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,919 Speaker 1: don't want to hang out with someone that won't trick 891 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: a beer with me. Yeah, you know, and if if 892 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: your if your regiment precludes you from having a bud 893 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: light on a Friday night, I just don't think I 894 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: can get behind it. I respect that you're doing it, 895 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 1: I just can't do it. Yeah. I remember when I 896 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: was a kid and I used to have um lizards 897 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: like like I used to have like leopard get goos 898 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I don't know it's like a 899 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: weird hobby I had. But when you read the books 900 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: and stuff about like keeping um reptiles as pets, they're like, 901 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, reptiles or you know, they have like feelings 902 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 1: quote unquote too, and you feed them the same stuff 903 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,399 Speaker 1: all the time, they get bored and they stop eating, 904 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: so you have to like vary their diet up a 905 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: little bit. I always, for some reason, my mind always 906 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: goes back to that. It's like, as a human being, 907 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: I can't imagine eating the same thing every day. I 908 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: think some people take to it naturally, like you know, 909 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: I've got sometimes to just walk around with like five 910 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 1: percent body fat, like that's the normal things and more 911 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: power to you. But but that's never gonna be me. 912 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 1: You know when even when I was fighting, of when 913 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: I was playing football for the Marine Corps, when I 914 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: was in the best shape of my life, you know, 915 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: I still had to flex for you to see abs, 916 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 1: unless I was right in the middle of a cut 917 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: to make weight. You know, like you could see striations 918 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,800 Speaker 1: in my muscle fiber in my shoulders, but you couldn't 919 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,959 Speaker 1: necessarily see abs sometimes, you know, It's just everybody's built 920 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 1: a little bit differently and The idea behind old Me 921 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 1: and Fitness isn't to make you an Instagram model. It's 922 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 1: not to turn you into you know, those guys that 923 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 1: you know never drink a beer and measure their meals, 924 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: although you know, if you do meal prep, good on you, 925 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: but you know, measure their meals to the gram and 926 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: stuff like that. The idea behind old Me and fitness 927 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: is to just stay in the game, stay functional, you know, 928 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: stay healthy, and let's fitness be what it needs to 929 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: be for you, which for me, it's a cathartic experience. 930 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 1: So my workout is therapeutic. You know. It's important to 931 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: me that I'm physically capable of protecting my wife and 932 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: my daughter. It's important to me that if my car 933 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: runs out of gas, I can walk three miles to 934 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: get gas and walk back without that being the worst 935 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 1: thing that's ever happened to me. You know, these types 936 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: of these types of functional goals are the focus of 937 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: Olden and fitness. I'm not trying to get your body 938 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 1: set down to three percent so that you can get 939 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 1: followers on Instagram. What I am going to try to 940 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: tell you is spot reduction is a myth. For instance, 941 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: you can't lose weight on just your stomach. You don't 942 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: get to pick where you lose weight from. That's fat stores, 943 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 1: fat stores burned based on your body's internal biology. You know. 944 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: So whenever someone tries to sell you something that says 945 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: they'll make your stomach smaller, they're lying to you. You know, 946 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: that's the sort of thing I want to make sure 947 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 1: you know. So that way, when you go and try 948 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 1: to start your own fitness regimen, when you try to 949 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 1: start eating better, working out and exercising, you understand that no, 950 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: this elastic band I bought for forty dollars isn't going 951 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: to solve the problem for me. The only thing that 952 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: can is me. The math is simple, calories in versus 953 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: calories burned. When it comes to lifting weights, the math 954 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: is simple again. More weight, lower reps makes you bigger. 955 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 1: Less weight higher reps makes you smaller and more toned. 956 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 1: We all know the math. We just want someone to 957 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: tell us that there's a miracle way to skip it. 958 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 1: And that's really what the media has kind of moved towards. 959 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: In the fitness world. It's always the Atkins diet or 960 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 1: the paleo diet, or you gotta eat like a key 961 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 1: of man, even though they all live to be like 962 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 1: twenty two and died terrible death. But we better eat 963 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: like them because that's how we were designed. All these 964 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 1: things are are not sustainable. You're gonna do the paleo 965 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: diet so you get to your weight that you wanted 966 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 1: to get to. Then you're gonna go back to eating 967 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 1: twinkies and end up breakback where you started. Yeah. Brandon 968 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: often says the same thing with um the fitness thing, 969 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,439 Speaker 1: because he we end up talking about fitness son power thought, 970 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 1: and he has said, like, I'm sure there's a few anomalies, 971 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 1: but you don't see too many like seventy five year 972 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: old cross fitters out there. He like, but there are 973 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 1: guys at that age swimming, you know, doing doing some 974 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: type of physical activity across it is tough on the joints. Man, 975 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 1: You know, I did a lot across it in my time. 976 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: Actually for a little while, I've never been across that guy, 977 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: but I've worked for some cross that guys, you know, 978 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 1: and so when you work for him and you know 979 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,959 Speaker 1: you're at company PT, you're gonna do cross it today. 980 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: Some parts across it are awesome and super valuable to 981 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 1: add to your workout. I guess you know low doubt 982 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 1: that you might have h I do. I'm not a 983 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: big believer in just cross it alone. If you look 984 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 1: at guys like Rich Franklin, who won the most Fit 985 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: Man on Earth in the cross that games, I mean 986 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: four or five times in a row. If you look 987 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,479 Speaker 1: at his workouts, he doesn't just go through the cross 988 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: that workout of the day. Some days, the cross that 989 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 1: workout of the day is do a max wait, one rep, 990 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: dead lift five times. That's it for today. Don't get 991 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: me wrong. If you do that and managed not to 992 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 1: get hurt, you will get stronger. But that's not what 993 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: makes you the fittest man on earth. That's not what 994 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: makes you function the least it. That's just something that's 995 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 1: some guy put on crossit dot com today. You know, 996 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 1: you have to approach fitness the same way that you 997 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: would approach martial arts. When I was doing mcmapp versus, 998 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 1: when I was doing Concreation versus, when I was doing 999 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 1: Muay Thai versus b J J. Some thing's worked very 1000 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: well for me. Some things just didn't. So what I 1001 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 1: do is I go, I'm gonna take that thing that 1002 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 1: worked real well. I'm gonna work on the thing that 1003 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 1: didn't until I can find a way to make it 1004 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: work for me. But ultimately it's got to be titlered 1005 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 1: to me if I intend to use it. Fitness is 1006 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 1: the same way. I'm not a runner. I suck at running, 1007 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: so I left. You know it's got a sitting Yeah. 1008 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's probably good to get some form of 1009 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: cardio in there, just for hard health. I mean, I 1010 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: do know people who who don't do any cardio at all, 1011 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: and you wouldn't think so they're in amazing shape. But 1012 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm wondering when I'm the guy that's on the exercise 1013 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,879 Speaker 1: bike next to the old lady named Gladdy watching the view. 1014 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,359 Speaker 1: I haven't been doing a lot of cardio lately because 1015 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm actually trying to put on some weight. But um, 1016 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, I was gonna possibly run a half marathon 1017 00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,800 Speaker 1: again in May, and then I was like, fuck this. 1018 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying like kind of eating more and just not 1019 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: doing much cardio. Um, but I do try to throw 1020 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: some in at least like once a week. But I 1021 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: was wondering, what, um, what's like the next thing that 1022 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 1: you're writing for an old man fitness or what's the 1023 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 1: latest that we're gonna say. You know, I couldn't even 1024 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 1: tell you yet, which is funny because I'm alla write 1025 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 1: it today. You know, maybe this conversation will spark some ideas. Absolutely. 1026 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: You Usually what I do on Thursdays when I start 1027 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: thinking about old man fitness, I write it some time 1028 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: between Thursday and Saturday, and I go on all of 1029 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: my favorite fitness websites and look for the utter bullshit 1030 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 1: that they're selling you. Like, I love a lot of 1031 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: these websites. I'm not I won't name them because I'm 1032 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: saying that they're selling you bullshit. But I love a 1033 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 1: lot of these websites that are trying to give you 1034 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 1: tips and pointers on how to get back into shape 1035 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 1: or get into better shape. But if you read like 1036 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: a muscle and fitness magazine from cover to cover, you'll 1037 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: find that within the magazine it'll contradict itself three or 1038 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: four times, you know, because one trainer will tell you 1039 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: the only way to gain map is by lifting to failure, 1040 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 1: and then three pages later you'll find another guy who 1041 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,320 Speaker 1: tells you the only way to gain the hass is 1042 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: if you do five sets of five regardless of failure. 1043 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: You know, and then you'll floccus a few more pages. 1044 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: That the reason why everybody's got these very different ideas 1045 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: of the only way to succeed, or probably because it 1046 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: was the only way they could. Yeah, and there's also 1047 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: a lot of paid content. I think that factors in 1048 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: as well. Oh, absolutely absolutely, you know, it's just like 1049 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: the gun world. I think Jack told me about this 1050 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,839 Speaker 1: a long time ago. But when you when you write, 1051 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 1: when you run a website TEPS devoted to firearm and 1052 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: tactical gear reviews, some people get really mad at you 1053 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: if you have a bad opinion of something. You know, 1054 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 1: like people are paying for space on your website, you 1055 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: better not say muscle tech sucks, you know. But like 1056 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 1: gods on this, I mean hydroxy cuts a great example. 1057 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,399 Speaker 1: When I was in the Marine Corps, hydroxy cut was huge, 1058 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 1: you know, and some marines died because they figured if 1059 00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: I just take ten of them right now, I'll wake 1060 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 1: up rep you know. And like hydroxy cuts, caffeine tells man, 1061 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 1: there's other stuff. There's green key extract, and there's this 1062 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: and that. It's just it's a bunch of caffeine that 1063 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: elevates your heart rate and that does increase your metabolism, 1064 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 1: and it also works as an appetite suppressant. But if 1065 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: you think that hydroxy cut or whatever the latest one is, 1066 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 1: it was that tricks for a while and then it's 1067 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 1: you know whatever. If you think that that tail is 1068 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 1: going to solve your problems for you, your misunderstanding how 1069 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: your body works, you know, it's a it's your body 1070 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: works just like a car. The difference is is that 1071 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: if you still the gas tank on your car and 1072 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: you don't use that gas, it would make your car fatter. 1073 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: That's the big difference. But you've got to use the 1074 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: fuel you put in. That's it's as simple as that 1075 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 1: hydroxy cut and might help you burn it a little 1076 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 1: bit faster, but you still have to use it. You know. 1077 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 1: Creatine is a good example. It's actually one of the 1078 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 1: few supplements that work. However, if you just take a 1079 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: bunch of creatine and then do the exact same things 1080 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 1: you've been doing, all you're really doing is taking in 1081 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of empty calories. Creating benefits you because you 1082 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,239 Speaker 1: can push a little harder, a little longer. If you 1083 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 1: don't try, you won't do it, and then all you're 1084 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 1: doing is drinking like a fruit. Punch milkshake that doesn't 1085 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: taste that good, but added three hundred calories to your day. 1086 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 1: You know. So people people want things to do the 1087 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,919 Speaker 1: work for them. Ultimately. What it comes down to, it's 1088 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: a really simple mechanism. Man Like, if you haven't gone 1089 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 1: for a walk in a long time, don't start with 1090 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: a half marathon, start with war now, just do something 1091 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,880 Speaker 1: and you'll end up in a better place. That's I 1092 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: think the biggest fitness miss out there is that you 1093 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 1: have to do something grandiose to to get a benefit 1094 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 1: from it. No, I men, just do a little more 1095 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: than you did yesterday. I would Yeah, I would agree 1096 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: with that. I have a colleague from Serious x M 1097 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 1: who has done very little exercise in his life, happened 1098 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: to watch I guess a friend in the Boston Marathon 1099 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 1: and he was like, that's it. Next year, I'm running 1100 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 1: the Bust and Marathon. Did a whole podcast about it, 1101 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,320 Speaker 1: and then I caught up with him recently. I'm like, 1102 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 1: so are you running the bust and Marathon? And he's like, 1103 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: now I'm not doing it now like that? After all that, dude, 1104 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,760 Speaker 1: I was, I was disappointed. And yeah, And it's also 1105 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: people need to realize like it's a hard fucking thing 1106 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 1: to do. I'm pretty decent at cardio. After the half marathon, 1107 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 1: I was like, that's it, Like there's no way I 1108 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 1: would ever do anything more than that. And I bailed 1109 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: out of doing this one. Um, not because I don't 1110 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: think I could do it. It's just because, like Alex 1111 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 1: was kind of seeing, my fitness goals right now are 1112 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,320 Speaker 1: different than they were at that time. But yeah, I agree, 1113 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 1: don't you don't have to have these crazy goals. Um. Yeah, 1114 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 1: It's all a learning process and a lot of the 1115 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,920 Speaker 1: same of what you're saying, Like, you learn what your 1116 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: body reacts to, you learn what you get sore from. 1117 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,240 Speaker 1: And you know, if you're not getting story, you're probably 1118 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: not doing the exercise properly. Um or you're not. You've 1119 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 1: got you've got to learn to adjust for injuries too, 1120 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, new ones that you maybe did working out 1121 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 1: because you're old and you're falling apart, and old ones 1122 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 1: like Jack, I bet you your knees are junk, I 1123 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 1: would imagine, right, just because from all the things that 1124 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,080 Speaker 1: you've done over the more more my back, my my 1125 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: knees area. That's another good one. A lower back is 1126 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 1: another huge one. So if you are going to start 1127 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,840 Speaker 1: working out right now, throwing three pounds on on the 1128 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 1: bar and doing dead lifts is a foolish thing to do, 1129 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, like you really need to start. When it 1130 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: comes to managing injuries, form is very important. I am 1131 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: a proponent of cheating on form when you're at the 1132 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 1: point of failure for some lifts, but that's another conversation. 1133 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 1: Form is there primarily to keep you safe, secondarily to 1134 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 1: maximize the benefit you get from a lift, you know. 1135 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 1: But when you're when you're a guy like me, who 1136 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, I've had seven surgeries from my waist down, 1137 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, but ten and two thousand twelve, I have 1138 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: to I can't quite squat the way I used to squat. 1139 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 1: I can't quite deadlift the way I used to deadlift. 1140 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 1: I have to make adjustments and the amount of weight 1141 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,520 Speaker 1: I use and the way that I do it, the 1142 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 1: way I keep breaks. Don't just do what the magazine 1143 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 1: tells you to do, you know, just like we were saying, 1144 00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 1: figure out what works for you and do that because 1145 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 1: if it, if it's a horrible experience, you're not gonna 1146 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 1: come back tomorrow. I'll give you one other tips as 1147 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 1: a guy who's maybe not as fit as Alex but 1148 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: does go to the gym regularly. Uh. And I think 1149 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 1: you'll agree with me on this because I've heard of 1150 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 1: other people talk about this, like no one cares or 1151 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 1: is watching, like they don't give a funk how much 1152 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 1: you're lifting. If you're like a new person in the gym, 1153 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: that's like, oh, I'm gonna look like a pussy if 1154 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm benching, you know, like fifty pounds. No one gives 1155 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 1: a ship like, start very light, get your form good, 1156 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 1: and then you know, slowly but surely go up and wait, 1157 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 1: go up in reps. You know, an intensity and all that. 1158 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think too many people who join a 1159 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 1: gym think everybody is looking cares. It's sort of like 1160 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 1: when you see a fat person running and it's like, well, okay, 1161 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 1: that's a fat person, but they're running. Yes, great, I 1162 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 1: mean that's great, it's motivation. Good for them. I mean, 1163 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 1: I now work out in my basement because I'm a 1164 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 1: woods hermit, but I used to go and work out 1165 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 1: at the gym, and you know, I'm not the biggest 1166 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: duit around, but you're pretty big, you know, if you're 1167 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 1: just fishing there, I'm fishing for a couple with no 1168 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not the biggest guy around, especially 1169 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: when you go to a big gym. I'm like, I'm 1170 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 1: a big dude. But there are guys who do this. 1171 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 1: You know. It's like this is what you like, Jack 1172 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 1: saying this is their life, you know. And but you 1173 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 1: know when you go to like a fitness or anytime 1174 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 1: fitness and you're a guy in my size, you know, 1175 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm like six ft two fifty I bench like, at you, 1176 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: that's a big you know. I'm not a power lifter. 1177 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 1: You're not going to see me on TV. But I'm 1178 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 1: a big guy in normal wife. People will stop and 1179 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 1: look and go, oh, that guy's moving a bunch of weight. 1180 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 1: I on the other hand, when I walk by and 1181 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: I see like a guy ian size, you know, throwing 1182 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 1: two fifty on the bar, I'm not like, oh, well, 1183 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,400 Speaker 1: let me do the quick mass to see how much 1184 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 1: stronger I am. I do not give a shit about you. 1185 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 1: I I don't care about what you're doing. I don't 1186 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 1: care about how you look, what outfit you're wearing. I 1187 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 1: never understood the people who, you know, the women who 1188 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,400 Speaker 1: put on makeup and the best to ever Crombie outfit 1189 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 1: to go work out, and the guy was jelling his hair. 1190 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,080 Speaker 1: That's not what we're here for, man, Like, no, no, 1191 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 1: I do. I do like looking at the I candy 1192 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 1: when I go to UFCG. I'm not gonna lie because 1193 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 1: there's quite a lie and it makes me self conscious 1194 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 1: if there's a hot gal around, I'm self conscious there 1195 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 1: where I will say uf CGM where I go, plenty 1196 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 1: of hot women just throwing it out there. I believe it. 1197 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,439 Speaker 1: I used to work out on campus at Framingham State 1198 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 1: and it would be like all these beautiful young women 1199 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 1: in like brand new outfits and me and like a 1200 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Mount Anthony's football two thousand one T shirt with holding it, 1201 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 1: just drenched in sweat and trying not to throw up. 1202 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 1: I was not picking up girls. Well, as you said, 1203 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 1: it's it's all about Instagram these days, Like these people 1204 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 1: just want to post like how fit they are on Instagram. 1205 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 1: They want to look good like I And actually I'm 1206 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 1: cool with that. I am if that's what motivates you 1207 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 1: to keep going, you know, to each throw and I'm 1208 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 1: happy for you. Yeah, that's just not my game. Well 1209 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 1: with that. Check out the Old Man Fitness column on 1210 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 1: soft rep um as a reminder for all of those 1211 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 1: who are listening. For a limited time, you can receive 1212 01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 1: a fifty percent discounted membership to saw rep TV, our 1213 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 1: channel that offers the most exclusive shows, documentaries and interviews 1214 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 1: covering the most exciting military content today. 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I mean we covered China, Space, UFOs, 1238 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 1: Fitness Star Trek covered a lot of bases. Also, in 1239 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 1: one more social media plug, find me on Facebook at 1240 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 1: Facebook dot com slash Alec Hollings Laker. All right, well 1241 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: that works, man, Thanks for doing this. The people demanded 1242 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:48,160 Speaker 1: an update and we delivered. Hey, I send a pleasure man, 1243 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me back. Yeah, thanks for coming on 1244 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,680 Speaker 1: the show as has been really cool. Yeah. I don't 1245 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 1: get to talk to you nearly enough, like in real 1246 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 1: life person and on Facebook, so I feels already feel 1247 01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 1: free to reach out anytime. Man. You got row up. 1248 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Self rep Radio. New episodes up 1249 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,280 Speaker 1: every Wednesday and Friday for all of the great content 1250 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 1: from our veteran journalists join us and become a team 1251 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 1: room member today at soft rep dot com. 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