WEBVTT - The Dr. Chandra Richardson Episode Part.2

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<v Speaker 1>Yea. Yet you know boys, it's back and reot it

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<v Speaker 1>all in your mind. Yeah, and that deep throating. This

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<v Speaker 1>is for the streets, the real the railroading, the distant franchise,

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<v Speaker 1>the truth escapegoating, and they ain't know when we speak

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. So they quoted because we wrote it. The

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<v Speaker 1>North South East coat is the g be my tree,

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<v Speaker 1>keeping your head bobbing. It ain't no stopping and wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be drops head by. And then the system is

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<v Speaker 1>so corrupted they throw the rock out of their heads

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<v Speaker 1>and then blame it on us. Don't get it twisted

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<v Speaker 1>on code And we danced for no buttament biscuits. So

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<v Speaker 1>so the crazy thing is like when you are teaching,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in like underprivileged areas right from town. You know

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<v Speaker 1>you're at the schools and you're trying to your best,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to to get these kids on the right track.

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<v Speaker 1>Oftentimes these kids you don't know what these kids are

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<v Speaker 1>going through at home. You don't know. Kids come to

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<v Speaker 1>school hungry. Sometimes if they don't come to school, they

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<v Speaker 1>will not eat. They come come to school after being

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<v Speaker 1>assaulted by family members. Um sometimes dirty. Yeah, they come.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same outfit where the average person may think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they must really like that outfit. They may not have

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<v Speaker 1>another outfit, right. And then it's also the peer pressure

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<v Speaker 1>of that kid who noticed that they're wearing the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing that might tease them, you know, because that happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me. You know, crazy thing. I had a guy

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<v Speaker 1>in my classroom, you know, he started making fun about

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<v Speaker 1>my clothes and we started fighting. We gotta suspended three day,

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<v Speaker 1>came back to school. The first day back, he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still gonna talk about you. So we started fighting again.

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<v Speaker 1>This time they put us in sack, you know, detention, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, he was one of those people that I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of put in that same uh, you know cluster

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<v Speaker 1>of the tractors that I wanted to get back at

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<v Speaker 1>when I got paid, right, And so after I got paid,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to the money. Yeah, I wrote up to

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<v Speaker 1>I was riding around and Maserati and I'm in I

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<v Speaker 1>come through the McDonald's parking lot and I see him

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, I called his name. See this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, he looks like a crackhead, skinny, dirty clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>I called his name. He turned around teeth on and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I called his name, and I said, oh, you said yo,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? WILLI D I said, what's up? Man? I say,

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<v Speaker 1>so you are right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I said, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to ride now I'm good, I say, we're here

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<v Speaker 1>back then. You know, I just started making money, so

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<v Speaker 1>I want to show off. So I always had thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars in my pockets, so I probably had about

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand dollars in them one of the pockets, and

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<v Speaker 1>I pulled it out and gave it to him. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And at first he refused, and I said, no, take it, man,

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<v Speaker 1>take it. You know what I'm saying, I don't need it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I gave it to him and I drove off.

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<v Speaker 1>But it goes to show you about life. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that it was gonna make me feel good to snub him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to put it and rubb it in his face.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that I had made it. Look at me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm this big successful look at me. But I felt

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<v Speaker 1>sorry for him. I felt really bad, and I felt

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<v Speaker 1>bad that I even felt that when in the first

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<v Speaker 1>place like that, I felt like I had to like

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<v Speaker 1>accomplish something great, you know, to be accepted by a

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<v Speaker 1>person you know or someone you know. I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I had to come back and and and prove that

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<v Speaker 1>I was worthy, you know, uh of of somebody else's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, praise, you know, a recognition, like you said earlier, attention. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be recognized. You want to be known

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<v Speaker 1>literally for doing something. Unfortunately, now a lot of young

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<v Speaker 1>and even some older people want to be known for

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<v Speaker 1>doing something, and it may not be good that seconds

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<v Speaker 1>of fame. Everybody just wants everybody just wants that that attention.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's crazy because you know, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell you something, like I I double salute you for

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<v Speaker 1>you do because you don't just you know, teach. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you're really ingrained, and like I really like the

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<v Speaker 1>correction and the rehabilitation of our young people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who are out there who are going through it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a tough position to be in because you live with that,

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<v Speaker 1>you go to sleep with that, you wake up with that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you eat with that. You know, it's constantly

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on your mind, you know, so you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's a it's a very difficult thing to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with, you know, especially if if you've already had

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<v Speaker 1>your own traumatic experiences, right, you know, which which you

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<v Speaker 1>can speak to. I mean, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to, but yeah, you know so. So you know

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<v Speaker 1>with the situation with your mother, you know, it came

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<v Speaker 1>a time when you didn't feel safe around her. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I said dysfunctional family. You get this picture

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<v Speaker 1>and it it looks great, but you don't know what's

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<v Speaker 1>on the back side of the picture frame. And as

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<v Speaker 1>I got older, my mom started to be more I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you would just say, down right me and abusive

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<v Speaker 1>because she had been done wrong by so many men.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel like she was jealous of you at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes yes, she had made comments about or you, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you pretty, we'll mess up your face. I wore glasses

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<v Speaker 1>and she would say things like break up your glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I really can't see now. But it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just be quiet, just be quiet, don't don't poke the bear,

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<v Speaker 1>don't don't give it any more energy. I would just

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<v Speaker 1>be quiet. And I wasn't the kind of young teenager

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<v Speaker 1>who did stuff to get in trouble. All I had

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<v Speaker 1>to do was breathe oxygen. All I had to do

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<v Speaker 1>was be there. And if she had a bad day

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<v Speaker 1>at work or someone had just literally piste her off,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna get it. I was gonna get it,

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<v Speaker 1>and my grandmother would be the one to say, run,

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the house, and I would run and

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<v Speaker 1>I would run to my neighbor's house and I would

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<v Speaker 1>stay until my grandmother will say, Okay, you could come

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<v Speaker 1>home now. And I grew up with that in my teens,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't think it was abnormal. I thought, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this is what everybody goes through. I had nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>compare it to. But every family has something then, But

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<v Speaker 1>what is that something? It might be, um, you know

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<v Speaker 1>grandparents like my grandparents who took care of you. But

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<v Speaker 1>when I got older, I understood, Oh, my grandmother Mary

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<v Speaker 1>and my grandfather because he could take care of her

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<v Speaker 1>when she was fourteen fifteen years old. That's like you

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<v Speaker 1>said that nobody would do that. They not normally don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that here in the United States and other countries. Yoh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's quite normal. But who would have thought of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Who would have pawned her off like that? But my

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<v Speaker 1>great grandmother, I know, loved my grandmother hugely. But with

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<v Speaker 1>my mother, she, according to where my cousins and aunts

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<v Speaker 1>would tell me, she just had this mean streak in

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<v Speaker 1>her and the physical abuse that she received just accentuated it.

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<v Speaker 1>She had one other set of children, supposedly with my

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<v Speaker 1>biological father, and I say a set because they were

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<v Speaker 1>twins and they didn't live, so I literally was the

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<v Speaker 1>oldest and then the only child. But in my twenties

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<v Speaker 1>I always worked. I always wanted to work because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to have my own money, because there were things

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<v Speaker 1>that I wanted, and she, oh, I'm not buying that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not paying that. And we didn't know allowance. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just if you ask, you would get if it

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<v Speaker 1>was feasible, if it was possible. And one particular time,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a really really decent job. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a degree yet and Uh, I said, come on, let

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<v Speaker 1>me take you out. My mother and my grandmother and

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<v Speaker 1>we were riding in the car going down to I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember where we were coming from, but I said,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to the UH, which is now chaos. On

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<v Speaker 1>six ten. I said, let's go to Bennigan's and sit

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<v Speaker 1>down and eat, because my grandmother always cooked. And my

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<v Speaker 1>mother said, I don't. I don't want to go there.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go home. And I said, okay. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>to keep her from having to cook, let's go there.

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<v Speaker 1>And we get it to go and we bring it

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<v Speaker 1>home and she said, I told you I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go there. I said, we're not going to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to buy the food and we take

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<v Speaker 1>it home to eat. And right about then I heard

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<v Speaker 1>and she had a gun to my temple and she said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't turn this motherfucking car around, we'll blow

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<v Speaker 1>your goddamn brains out. And I pulled over the side

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<v Speaker 1>of the road. My grandmother was hysterical. She was just

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<v Speaker 1>out of control, crying and telling her, don't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that. Put the gun down. Put the gun down.

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<v Speaker 1>And she said, no, she's gonna take me home. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I said, She's gonna take me home, and stopped

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<v Speaker 1>the car. I got out and went running down the freeway,

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<v Speaker 1>yelling and screaming. Somebody helped me. Somebody helped me, and

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<v Speaker 1>somebody stopped and it was like a bad movie, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was the star and said, my mother's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>kill me. I need somebody to call the police. And

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<v Speaker 1>someone did call the police. It was like I was

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<v Speaker 1>just they's a free falling and I couldn't control anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was totally gone from my mind. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like I couldn't see anything, I couldn't hear anything, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't remember anything. It was just that traumatic for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And police came to my mother to jail, and we

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<v Speaker 1>went on took my grandmother home. Keep in mind, we're

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<v Speaker 1>all living together, me and my mother and my grandmother,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, I'm sure she did not. She did not.

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<v Speaker 1>Points we voting podcast will be right back back to

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<v Speaker 1>the point. M M. My mother called, she got her

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<v Speaker 1>her jail call, and said, did if you still in

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<v Speaker 1>that house when I get out, I'm still a kid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I told my grandmother's act, I gotta go. I was

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<v Speaker 1>maybe twenty one, maybe twenty one years old. I left

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<v Speaker 1>and I went and stayed with my No, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually went and stay with my aunt, my grandmother's sister.

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<v Speaker 1>And not a problem, not a problem. And I paid

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<v Speaker 1>them pay them rent because I couldn't stay for free.

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<v Speaker 1>But they let me come and go. You know. I

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<v Speaker 1>went to work or not, and then I would go out.

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<v Speaker 1>But otherwise I was was like a hermit. Was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to do anything to cause anymore issues

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<v Speaker 1>with anybody. And though I say making good money in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of what can you pay rent and can you

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<v Speaker 1>pay your card? Okay, Well it wasn't that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>good money. So um, my grandmother had started to get

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<v Speaker 1>real sick, and she said, I really want you to

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<v Speaker 1>come home, she said. And I talked to your mother

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<v Speaker 1>and I told her, you're killing me. I need her

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to come back home. So like a relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, where somebody says I'm gonna beat you, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gona beat you. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm not gonna beat

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<v Speaker 1>you anymore. I apologize and you come back, and then

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<v Speaker 1>as they beat you again, Oh, I didn't mean to

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<v Speaker 1>do that again. It was that kind of a cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>But I came back and helped take care of my mother.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when I went on and got in HCC

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<v Speaker 1>and got the good job learning how to do the

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<v Speaker 1>surgery piece. So that redeemed me. And I helped take

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<v Speaker 1>care of my grandmother until she succumbed to cancer. But

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<v Speaker 1>my mother's mind, things had started to change tremendously with her,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could see it. And if I said something

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone, and other people would say, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your mama was had a crazy way. There are you're crazy, mama?

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<v Speaker 1>Like my pastor said, you ought to start asking, but

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<v Speaker 1>why are they crazy? Yeah, we say it flippantly, jokingly.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think she was acting like that? Why

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<v Speaker 1>do you think Well, when some years had passed, married,

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<v Speaker 1>family and everything like that, I didn't realize my mother

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<v Speaker 1>had really started to go in the wrong direction mentally.

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<v Speaker 1>She when she went in the hospital this last time,

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<v Speaker 1>I had not talked to my mother in probably five

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<v Speaker 1>or six years. She took herself away from us. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't take ourselves away from her. I found out my

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<v Speaker 1>mother had gone through a homeless stage. She was living

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<v Speaker 1>in a car, She had lost everything, she had lost

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<v Speaker 1>her home, house had caught on fire. She didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell anyone. She didn't have insurance. Um, she had

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<v Speaker 1>been sick and ended out of the hospital. She was

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<v Speaker 1>just really in dire straits. But she would never reach out.

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<v Speaker 1>I would kind of keep tabs on her, like get

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<v Speaker 1>so close just enough to see and know where she

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<v Speaker 1>was and how she was doing, but never approached because

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that was probably set her off. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to do that. Ironically, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>working at another school in the district on the northwest side,

0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm a thrifter. I love going to the the drift store.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was in the thrift store and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a lady at the corner of my eye and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, that looks no, no, that is definitely not her.

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<v Speaker 1>And sure enough, I go and see, just go and see.

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<v Speaker 1>And I turned around and I called her by name,

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<v Speaker 1>and she turned around and looked at me, and she said,

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<v Speaker 1>don't come close to me. I knew it was her,

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<v Speaker 1>but I knew how she was. I didn't know how

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<v Speaker 1>she was at that moment. I should say I know

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<v Speaker 1>how she was previously. I didn't know how she was

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<v Speaker 1>at that moment. And at that point you hadn't seen

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<v Speaker 1>it in five years at least. The first thing that

0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.000
<v Speaker 1>comes to her mind, the first words that you you

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<v Speaker 1>hear her uttered when she sees you, when she laid

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<v Speaker 1>his eyes on her daughter, the child she gave birth two,

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<v Speaker 1>is don't come close to it. And she told someone

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<v Speaker 1>in the store that latest allowing me because I was watching,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was and so and so it has to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the back of your mind. She probably have

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<v Speaker 1>a gun. So yeah, I am. I'm gonna keep my

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<v Speaker 1>distance exactly. So I turned and I went out the

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<v Speaker 1>store and went to my car, and I cried, and

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<v Speaker 1>I cried and I cried, and I didn't try to

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<v Speaker 1>get in touch with her. One of my fraternity brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>he and I would always chop it up and talking

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<v Speaker 1>and say, you ever wonder where your mom is? And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, but I'm kind of afraid to find

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<v Speaker 1>out because I don't want to. I just don't want

0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.960
<v Speaker 1>to be in there. I can't deal with that, I

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<v Speaker 1>really can't. And he said, well, at least just know

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<v Speaker 1>where she is. And I said to my daughter, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>with China, you know I've been thinking you. Her name

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<v Speaker 1>is China. I said, I don't know if your grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>is alive or dead. And it's on my mind more

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<v Speaker 1>and more, which means that's that God is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you something you need to know. So I reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to my my frat brother again and he said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me check and see what I can find out.

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<v Speaker 1>And he he would talk, you know, every so often,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I keep checking. He said, she doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be found. He said, I'm coming up empty on

0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:25.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of my leads. But somewhere in the heights,

0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:29.359
<v Speaker 1>somewhere over the heights, but I don't know where. And

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<v Speaker 1>It was the very next week I got a phone

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<v Speaker 1>call from Memorial Herman over in the Heights, and at

0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:38.800
<v Speaker 1>that particular time, I was still at work. My husband

0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.960
<v Speaker 1>answered the phone and they asked for me, and he said, well,

0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.080
<v Speaker 1>she's not here. I can't take a message. And he said,

0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:48.679
<v Speaker 1>was Marrie Herman. We need to talk to her, and

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<v Speaker 1>we can't give any information. So when I came in,

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<v Speaker 1>he told me, but it was too late to call

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<v Speaker 1>then until I called the next morning, got the social

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<v Speaker 1>worker and she said, I think we have your mother,

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<v Speaker 1>but I need to ask you some questions so we

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<v Speaker 1>can verify your identity. And they asked me everything and

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<v Speaker 1>I answered, because I knew all her information, social secure number,

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<v Speaker 1>everything I knew and she said, well, we have your

0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:20.600
<v Speaker 1>social Security number. You you really are a NERD can

0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:24.840
<v Speaker 1>say yes, I know my children? Well, so yes, but

0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I did so I could very investigators, borderline, next job baby,

0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:34.760
<v Speaker 1>but I told she said yeah, you're definitely her daughter.

0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:37.800
<v Speaker 1>And we asked her if she had any family and

0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.960
<v Speaker 1>she said no. She said, but we're calling it because

0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.480
<v Speaker 1>and I said, oh lord, what is this. I don't

0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:46.480
<v Speaker 1>even know if I'm ready for this. And I was

0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:49.600
<v Speaker 1>at work and she said, um, your mother is not

0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:53.360
<v Speaker 1>in good health and we don't expect her to survive.

0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.040
<v Speaker 1>We want to know if you're willing to take on

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<v Speaker 1>the responsibility and make all decisions for her. And I called, man,

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<v Speaker 1>what what a phone call? All that week, I had

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<v Speaker 1>been listening to gospel music, just getting infused, infused, infused. Okay,

0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I listened to it, but not quite like this, but

0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.399
<v Speaker 1>just every day I would put it on driving past

0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.119
<v Speaker 1>the gallerya bump of the bumper traffic, sometimes get a

0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:22.640
<v Speaker 1>whole church sermon in. And I said, I know why now,

0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:26.240
<v Speaker 1>because I was getting built up to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>handle this journey, because I didn't know what that was

0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:32.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like. So the lady told me. I said, well, yes, man,

0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I said, I'll be there this afternoon. And I went

0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.560
<v Speaker 1>and asked for the social worker and I said, how

0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.840
<v Speaker 1>did you find me? She said, we went on the computer.

0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.120
<v Speaker 1>She said, your mom. She said, we could tell she's

0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.240
<v Speaker 1>not the kind of person that wouldn't have anybody, but

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:52.000
<v Speaker 1>she was adamant she had no family. But the last

0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:56.400
<v Speaker 1>name was Nick Spatten. It was amazing name, family name,

0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:58.960
<v Speaker 1>she said, and it's not a lot of people with

0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:02.040
<v Speaker 1>that spelling. And you go online and you look and

0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:04.560
<v Speaker 1>you start pulling up names and he'll say, oh, this

0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:08.359
<v Speaker 1>person may be associated with she said, and you and

0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:11.159
<v Speaker 1>your husband's name came up, but not your number, your

0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:14.000
<v Speaker 1>husband's name and phone number, so that's why they call.

0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:17.439
<v Speaker 1>And I said, oh okay, she said, what do you

0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:24.239
<v Speaker 1>want to see her? H yeah, I'm here, so yeah.

0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:26.800
<v Speaker 1>So we went to the room and opened the door.

0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:31.680
<v Speaker 1>And I had always called my mother Melanie because when

0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I was small, I thought my mother was my sister,

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<v Speaker 1>because my grandmother was raising me. She lived with us,

0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.920
<v Speaker 1>but she was usually gone or gone on the road

0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:44.159
<v Speaker 1>with the entertainers or things like that. So was she

0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:49.800
<v Speaker 1>incapacitated when I saw her? Yes, she had just had

0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:55.359
<v Speaker 1>her kidney removed cancer and she looked at me and

0:21:55.400 --> 0:22:01.119
<v Speaker 1>her eyes just and she didn't say anything. And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's me. I don't know you. I said, now you

0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 1>know what you know? You know me because I looked

0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:14.320
<v Speaker 1>just like you. And the social worker said, oh my gosh,

0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:20.680
<v Speaker 1>y'all sound just alike. My mother was in her eighties.

0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:25.840
<v Speaker 1>And the social workers said, you have the same eyes,

0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:31.320
<v Speaker 1>your voice, it's the same. So how many days that

0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:34.800
<v Speaker 1>you have her before she passed. I had six weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Six weeks and how often did you go to the

0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:44.439
<v Speaker 1>hospital as much as my heart could stand. Uh. I

0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:48.720
<v Speaker 1>brought my kids because she had not seen them in years.

0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 1>And what was her reaction when she saw them. She

0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:53.880
<v Speaker 1>would talk to them like she just saw him yesterday.

0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Same with my husband. And we were able to get

0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:04.440
<v Speaker 1>her moved into a nursing home because I could do it.

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't do it. It was so much that

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 1>she needed. It was beyond anything that I was emotionally

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 1>able to do. And I call it the nursing home

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 1>from Hell because I had no idea it was a

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:23.439
<v Speaker 1>good one, but then management changed and it became the

0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:27.800
<v Speaker 1>nursing home from Hell. While she was there, I had

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to act like she was destituted, which technically she was. Uh.

0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 1>During that time when she was in the hospital, the

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:41.080
<v Speaker 1>apartment complex that she was in, they went and had

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:45.880
<v Speaker 1>a court order done to have her evicted. Unfortunately, the

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:49.960
<v Speaker 1>apartment people wouldn't tell me anything, but one lady who

0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 1>worked there work the night ship, and she said, I'm

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 1>not supposed to tell you anything, but I'm going to

0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 1>tell you because what they're doing isn't right. She said,

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:02.399
<v Speaker 1>they're going to court tomorrow and they'll take everything that

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 1>she owns. You need to go to court. I said,

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:08.919
<v Speaker 1>where do I go? And she told me and she

0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 1>gave the information and I showed up at court the

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 1>next day and I prayed and I said, I'm pleading

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>on the blood of Jesus that this judge will show

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.679
<v Speaker 1>me favor for my mother, because I had been calling

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the apartment where my mother lived and they would never

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:29.880
<v Speaker 1>call me back. So when the apartment people came up

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:32.320
<v Speaker 1>in front of the judge and he says, there anyone else?

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>And I came up and the apartment people looked at

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:37.639
<v Speaker 1>me and they said, do you notice lady? And they

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:40.439
<v Speaker 1>said no, and they asked me this, and do you

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>know them? I said, I've seen them because I went.

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 1>But they wouldn't talk to me. And the judge said,

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't you talk to her? And they said because

0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Ms Max Patton said she didn't have any family. He said,

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 1>so you didn't try to investigate to find out. Didn't

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:00.560
<v Speaker 1>that seem odd to you? And well, she said she

0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't have any family. They had got my mother to

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:10.120
<v Speaker 1>sign over everything everything, so um. The judge then said, well,

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 1>if I give you seven days to take care of

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 1>your mother's affairs? Will you do it? And I know

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:22.880
<v Speaker 1>seven is a number of completion, and I said, yes, sir,

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I will. So within seven days, I had packed up everything,

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>moved it away, some of stored, some I gave away

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to family and friends, and said she may not be

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 1>able to have it. I may not want it, but

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:39.399
<v Speaker 1>I'll be dog on if you get to take it.

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 1>That's not fair to her. My mother told me she

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 1>had no insurance, So okay, I still got you. She said,

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 1>you know I'm dying, don't you. I said, yes, ma'am,

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I do. I need you to tell me what you

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:57.679
<v Speaker 1>want because if you don't tell me, I'm gonna do

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 1>what I want to do. She would never but tell

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.199
<v Speaker 1>me what she wanted. I was able to move my

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:07.919
<v Speaker 1>mother out of the the place that just did not

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>breathe life into anyone, and I got her into Harbor Hospice.

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:16.160
<v Speaker 1>She survived twenty three hours. And what was the last

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 1>word she said to you? I always knew you would

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:24.400
<v Speaker 1>be okay, and I love you. Man. That is crazy

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:26.920
<v Speaker 1>that that sounds like something my mama would have said.

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Because my mama was particularly hard on me, you know,

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>she told me one day, like, you know, after beating

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the hell out of me, She's like, the reason why

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm hard on you because you better, You're gonna be

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:44.639
<v Speaker 1>better than the rest of it. And I remember saying,

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be the rest better than the

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 1>rest him if I got to go through this. Yeah. Um,

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 1>so after all of that, you you eulogize your mother.

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>What did you say? Like? What like? What like? What

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 1>are the most pleignant things that you remember saying during

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the eulogy? And then you also, I guess you use

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:11.360
<v Speaker 1>your money to bury her, right? You know you said

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 1>she didn't have insurance or whatever. Right. Well, after going

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 1>through my mother's things, my mother was a hoarder, A

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>horrible hoarder, I could say, a good hoarder. She hid money,

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 1>she hid money orders, cash enough to give her the

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 1>homegoing that she wanted and to bless my children. So no,

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:45.640
<v Speaker 1>we're not millionaires. Iss why I still go to work,

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>But I'd brought to go to work anywhere. But I

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 1>had enough to pay for and I pay for a

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:57.159
<v Speaker 1>thing in cash, so there were no extenuating bills. She

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>um never told me I had planned to do the

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>cremation and we had everything set up at the church,

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and our youth pastor ray Baby, shout out to ray Baby,

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and I asked him, and I had to tell him

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 1>my story, he said, because I don't know your mom.

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>And when I told him, he's like, my god, oh

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 1>my god. If anybody knows ray Baby, that's something he

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.400
<v Speaker 1>always says. And he said, yeah, I'll do it for you.

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>And the sermon that he did was entitled Maximized the dash.

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>You get a birthdate, get an end date. What did

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>you do with your dash? Yeah? So he talked about

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>me and the family and how he knew us and

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>that we were the fruit of my mom. Why thought

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you eulogized that he did, and then I came behind

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:57.959
<v Speaker 1>him and I got to speak, and I talked about

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>tough love and forgiveness, the power that's in forgiveness. Which

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>is why I could do that, I said, because I

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<v Speaker 1>had to pray. I mean, everybody has to find some

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of way to deal with it. Mindest to prayer.

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>And something that my pastor has said, hating somebody, it's

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>like you drink and drain on hoping they would die.

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>And I never forgot that. That allowed me to just

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:29.960
<v Speaker 1>really started to release a whole lot of stuff, a

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>whole lot of baggage, and to understand that. Like Oprah,

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>I would say, you know, when you know better, you

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>do better. So all these things, Mike, thank you. She

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>was on Oprah show when she said, at that particular time,

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 1>thank you. Uh. Just hearing all of these things that

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>people have said to give me peace and to be

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>a strong tower to knock coward and be broken down

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>like old beautiful me. I could have been this with

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:03.959
<v Speaker 1>my mama. Mm hmmmm. That wasn't in my fiber. If anything,

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I just needed to be undergirded to stay strong. I

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>was already strong, I just didn't know it and needed

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 1>their support. And I talked about mental health and I said,

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:20.479
<v Speaker 1>my mother was mentally ill. When you jokingly say, oh

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>crazy and Sally, oh duhn, Uncle Bubba everything, Hey, I

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>got uncle Bubba. Now had you know, everybody's shout un

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Bubble my favorite uncle. Everybody's family has it. But the

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>question is, but why are they What makes them crazy?

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>What makes them goofy, what makes them silly in their eyes?

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's what as a as a people, as a

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>people culturally, we like to sweep it under the table

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 1>and act like it doesn't existest, but having been the

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the beaten child, it's like, oh, but it does exist

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>because I lived through it and I lived to tell

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>the story. Why did I get to live to tell

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the story. Because I'm supposed to help somebody. I'm supposed

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>to help somebody else. Understand that when you start seeing

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>when they say, if it looks like a duck and

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 1>it's cracking like a duck, guess what. It's a duck.

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>What are you gonna do about it? And a little

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>roasted duck tastes pretty good sometimes, but don't ignore it.

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>The science and symptoms are there. There's so many. I

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>have a granddaughter who's five years old. Smartest could be

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 1>smart as a whip. Of course I say it because

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>it's my grandchild. But still the teachers at the school say,

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>she is so smart. She's an old person. She's been

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>here before. She talks like you know, she's seven, eight, nine,

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>ten years old. Yeah, she's been around us. We didn't

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 1>talk to her in baby talk. We started off talking

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>regular English, where she was walking at nine months. That's

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>scary to have a nine month old that's already walking,

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 1>and was saying Mama and dad. But otherwise it was

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>the regular words. But does she have some issues? I

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>could say genetically maybe, so she's and I don't want

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>to say she is, but she's showing a little sign

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>of being hyper. She's got to be busy. So knowing that,

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I could just say, oh, isn't that cute? Or say okay,

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>let me see what I need to do exactly. How

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>did you meet Maryland Gambrella with no more victims, my

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>dear sweet friend. I was working at Stirling High School.

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I've been all over Histy. I was working as a

0:32:55.800 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>graduation coach, working with kids making them graduate because they

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't seem to want to. And some of the kids

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>would come in and would say, oh, Mama Jesus and

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Mama Mama G. Who is Mama Ge. We have somebody

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>on this campus, ame Mama Gi. Yeah, you don't know her, No, miss,

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you need to meet her. So a couple of them

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>they took me to where she was and she was

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>in a conference room and they introduced me and they said, oh,

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>this is Mama Ge. And I said, I'm sorry, what

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>is your real name? She saw the kids call me that.

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>She said, I'm Marylyn Gambriell. But that's so nice to

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>meet you, Dr Britarson. Chandra whatever you want calling, she said,

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I am the great Maryland Gambrill, friend of Willie d.

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I guess she didn't want to run me off on

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the first meeting, but I said what do you do?

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>And she said, well, I have this program called No

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>More Victims? So what is that? So she said, well, basically,

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>it's a program that works with students whose parents or

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>family members have been incarcerated. Wow, I never even knew

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>that existed. And what do you do? And in essence,

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>it was an opportunity for for kids to unleash and

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:17.760
<v Speaker 1>let it out and let the hurt and the anger

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and the pain go in a protected environment. And she

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>would also take the kids to a prison, not to

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.240
<v Speaker 1>see their parents or anything like that, but to speak

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:32.399
<v Speaker 1>to inmates and let them know, this is how your

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 1>kids feel when you do the things that you do.

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>So they would tell their own personal experiences, and um,

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>I noticed the kids were always they might act a

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 1>fool out in the hallway, but when they got in

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:50.760
<v Speaker 1>there with her, it was like they were different people.

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 1>They were calm and lacks. They might be energized and

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, talking loud and stuff. But otherwise they were

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 1>just so much more piece that's right, that's right, and

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and and shot salute because you know, it's like they

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>gotta want it right, and they all wanted and and

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>she has done such a remarkable job. I mean, not

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 1>for years, for decades with that with that program, and

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 1>the kids that come through that program, all of them

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:24.479
<v Speaker 1>have experienced various degrees of pain and and just being

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>neglected and let down by the adults in their lives.

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>And to their credit, all of them, I'm talking about

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>every single one of them have just shown like incredible

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>progress and just I mean, if you could tell when

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 1>from the time that they come in to the time

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 1>that they get just a few weeks under them, it's

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 1>like she doesn't give up. And she also empowers them.

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>That's a big part of it too, is she empowers

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and put them in leadership roles and things like she does.

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>She's really good. I just felt so honored, first of all,

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to him met her. But then we were talking one

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>day and she was, you know, kind of laid back.

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 1>But I would say Maryland is a cry baby. So

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:14.720
<v Speaker 1>when something touches her heart, she's just spewing tears like crazy.

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>And I thought, oh, what is wrong with this lady.

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>She's crying every time you turn around. And one day, um,

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>some of the kids. I guess they probably had a

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 1>conversation with her because I didn't go to the meetings.

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:31.319
<v Speaker 1>But then I got invited to a meeting and I

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>was given the opportunity of telling what I say, is

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>my truth, tell my story. So I told a little

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>bit of my story and the kids were shocked because

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>they know me as Dr Richardson, you know, the the

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 1>lady who has it together. And I said this, this

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>is like a lucky accident that y'all get to know

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 1>me this way. I was not the one who had

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it all together either, and I told him about my

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 1>mom and stuff that I had gone through, and they

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>were just really really shocked. And next thing I know,

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 1>the offer came if I wanted to be sworn in,

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.760
<v Speaker 1>and as well, I guess, so if that if y'all

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>want me, and they said yes, So I was sworn

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>in and they got on the course that they had

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>a graduation. They even gave me an honor core that

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I could wear, and I was really impressed. Well yearsually,

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:26.319
<v Speaker 1>I moved went to another school and over the last

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:29.320
<v Speaker 1>two years, I wound up being at a school again.

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I taught it Worthy twenty one years ago, actually a teacher,

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and now I'm back at Worthy in another role as

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the coordinator Girl Points Relogal podcast will be right back

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 1>back to the point. M tell me about these scholarships

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>that you have raised. Uh, how you like, like responsible

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 1>for raising millions of dollars? Yes, sir, I've been blessed,

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 1>truly blessed, and I blessed the kids. Uh. Relationships not

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>just with the students, but outside relationships. And when I

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>tell people what I do, and I said, do you

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 1>do you have any or does your foundation do or

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:20.800
<v Speaker 1>do you recommend somebody? Do you know somebody? And sometimes

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>they say yes. And then for the record, I am

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:27.360
<v Speaker 1>a coordinator for college Access, but I say, I'm a

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 1>coordinator for college, Military and career Access. I cover all

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the basis literally life access. I come in, I introduced

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>myself and I tell them my name. I said, but

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 1>just because I give you that name, that's not who

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I am. That's just something that I have, something that

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I've earned, something that I work for. You see the

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:53.920
<v Speaker 1>outside cover, but you don't know the inside story. And

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I tell the story and they look at me in disbelief.

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I say, if I can do it, I can also

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:04.320
<v Speaker 1>help you do it. And I don't care if you

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 1>go to college. And they look at me like, what

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:09.399
<v Speaker 1>she's to college? Lady? What is she talking about? I said,

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I really don't care if you go to college. What

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I care about is do you have a plan and

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 1>is it a workable plan? Because if you come to

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:20.799
<v Speaker 1>me and you got a what a point seven five

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:23.880
<v Speaker 1>g p A and then you tell me all this,

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to go to Yale, I want to go

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>to Harvard. Uh, let's let's sit down and look at

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>this realistically. And I'm not gonna tell you no. I'm

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:37.840
<v Speaker 1>just gonna say not right now. Let's see what we

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>need to do. And sometimes it maybe started Houston Community College,

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I had to go backwards because I messed up. Nobody

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 1>missed me up. I messed up. I made all those

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 1>choices myself. But then once I figured out what I

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>needed to do, I got my act together and I graduated,

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and I was making the Dean's list, and I got

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 1>what I would call a good job, a decent salary

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.479
<v Speaker 1>where I could help my family and get my kids

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:09.160
<v Speaker 1>to understand you can do whatever you want to do.

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>You have some paper behind you. You said that people

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>are in disbelief when you tell your story. What's the

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:21.760
<v Speaker 1>most remarkable part of your story? That they don't believe

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that I came up in Sunnyside, that I was born

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>in Third War, or that idea come from a dysfunctional family.

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 1>That uh, when my mother passed away, that I eulogized

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:39.800
<v Speaker 1>my mother, and in that eulogy I talked about mental

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>illness and how it affects a family because my mother

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 1>had it. And so what made your family dysfunctional? Because

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you know from what I heard, you know you had

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>a loving mother, loving grandmother, loving father, and that was

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the tribe, or at least the immediate part of your tribe.

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 1>So what what made where did this function comes from? Well,

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>when you look at societies analysis and definition of what

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 1>family is, family is a mother, father and children in

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:20.439
<v Speaker 1>the same house. Well it was a mom, no dad

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>in the legal aspect, and you shouldn't be on welfare,

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 1>but we were, and my mother was. And my mother

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 1>had not graduated from high school, so she was of

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 1>no help to me. But she was adamant or you're

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna go to school you're gonna go to high school.

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:47.800
<v Speaker 1>When it came to going to college, I what do

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:50.720
<v Speaker 1>I know about that? Who was I talking to about

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 1>college other than the people at school or my classmates?

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 1>And I distinctly remember my councilor Miss Jane Foster from

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Medicine High School, who said, and what are you going

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 1>to do? Where are you going to school? And I said, oh,

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:06.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to question why? Uh, because my mother said,

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 1>we don't have money for that. Uh, well do you

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 1>want to go? Well, yeah, I guess well if I

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 1>get you some money, where you go. Yeah. So she

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>gave me papers to take them home, let your mother

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 1>feel them out. Oh no, ma'am, I can't take this

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 1>home to my mother. Why because she said, I'm not

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 1>going girl, take that stuff home. And I took it

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:29.799
<v Speaker 1>home when my mother said, I'm not feeling this out

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and mess with my welfare check. I'm not doing that. Now.

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Was your mom? Did she use welfare to subsidize her income?

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Did she? Did she have a job? But she did?

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 1>She just My mother was the most talented seamstress in

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the city of Houston. She sold for all the entertainers

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>like James Brown, Tina Turner, the t s U Toronados

0:42:54.280 --> 0:43:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Ali head for the wife. The wife is a She

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>did it in Houston, Melanie's fashions. Uh. She was in

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 1>a shop next door to Ray Barnett's Center Club, the

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 1>old Center Club, next to the Palletroyal. Uh. She was

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:20.440
<v Speaker 1>at the Continental Showcase. Whatever she wore, it was an

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<v Speaker 1>original design by Melanie. Her name was Melanie Emmy L

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<v Speaker 1>l O w n E. Melanie max Bay. And she

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<v Speaker 1>did it. She was around all the entertainers and she

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<v Speaker 1>took me to I was ten, eleven, twelve years old

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 1>sitting in the Continental Showcase with my mother, who had

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<v Speaker 1>a front and center table. Now, you said, well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not normal, but back then a lot of stuff wasn't normal.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what we did, and we had matching outfits

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<v Speaker 1>and things of that nature. But my mother was in

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<v Speaker 1>abusive relationships where men beat her. Man beat her, and

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it. I saw the aftermath. I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>black eyes, I saw the bites on her face. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in a car with her once when I

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<v Speaker 1>was about ten, and one of the gentlemen that she married.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being gracious, I'm being I have to be g Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was shooting at her down the street, driving down

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<v Speaker 1>Coloring and Airport. I remember, I remember him shooting out

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<v Speaker 1>the glass. I remember having glass in my hair. I

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:43.440
<v Speaker 1>remember it. And she buried him after my grandfather had passed.

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:45.799
<v Speaker 1>As long as my grandfather's last she went there because

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<v Speaker 1>my grandfather said, no, he was no good for her.

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<v Speaker 1>But the heart up. Oh my grandfather would have probably

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<v Speaker 1>did more than that. Well I'm saying, yeah, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and made him disappear after. But yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>was in a lot of abusive relationships, but she was

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<v Speaker 1>very popular because of her clothing. She was a certified

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<v Speaker 1>licensed beautician, she was a barber. This was from the

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 1>woman who didn't graduate from high school. But when I

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<v Speaker 1>was graduated from high school, trade though, And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>it's those trades back. We got to take the trades

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<v Speaker 1>out of the prisons and put them back into the

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:35.319
<v Speaker 1>schools exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, beautiful, beautiful. I learned from

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 1>her how to do hair, but I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, And I learned from her how to sew.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to do it, but my calling was different,

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<v Speaker 1>still different. Do you think that your mother's abusive relationships

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<v Speaker 1>had any type of effect on your own personal relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>Was you ever in an abusive relationship? Well, I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>say yes. I wasn't beaten, I wasn't sexually assaulted, but

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<v Speaker 1>um there was a guy that I had dated once

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<v Speaker 1>in college and he was kind of jealous. But we

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 1>were always around his friends, which was fine because they

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:27.359
<v Speaker 1>treated me like the sister. In one particular time, I said, oh, well,

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:30.840
<v Speaker 1>i've I wasn't ready to go yet or something like that,

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and and he grabbed my arm and twisted it behind

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<v Speaker 1>my back and I used some choice non dr Richardson

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<v Speaker 1>words on him, and our friends were like, dude, what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing. You don't do her like that. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>you leave, you leave. And I made the mistake of

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<v Speaker 1>telling my mother. And at the time, I was living

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<v Speaker 1>in Beaumont and working in going to school in Beaumont

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 1>because remember I hel I couldn't go back to your age,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was moving around. But my mother said I'm coming.

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 1>It was like the movie I'm coming and I'm bringing

0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 1>hell with me. And I was like, oh, what I

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.239
<v Speaker 1>tell her far She goes, that's the one that's gonna

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 1>kill somebody, and I was like, no, don't. I'm not

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>even talking to him. Anymore. You get one time, so

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you shut it down all the way down. Yeah, no, no,

0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 1>what do you call it? No looking back over my shop? Nope,

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I refused to look back. That's how you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And never huge salute to the friends, because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it takes. It takes men to educate men. Men listen

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I mean, you know, you can listen to

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:53.959
<v Speaker 1>woman whatever, but most men, you know, uh, they're gonna listen.

0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:57.279
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna listen to men because they feel like women

0:47:57.360 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 1>have an arterior motive. And just like women, women listen

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:02.440
<v Speaker 1>to women. Women feel like if a man go to

0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 1>talking to stuff, it is because he has an arterior motive,

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 1>he wants something from us, something he's trying to benefit

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:09.879
<v Speaker 1>in some way. So men listen to men. And that's

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:13.399
<v Speaker 1>why it is important for men to step up when

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:18.360
<v Speaker 1>they see their homeboy, their brother, cousin or whatever getting

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:21.839
<v Speaker 1>out of line being aggressive with women. Uh, shut it down,

0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>we don't do that. We don't do that around here. Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>The same thing even with you know, just taking care

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:29.839
<v Speaker 1>of your kids, are being neglected, you know what I'm saying,

0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, being neglectful. Hey man, hey, we don't do

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that home boy, take care your kids. Because if a

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 1>dude will bring a child, be responsible for bringing a

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:44.200
<v Speaker 1>child into this world and turn his back on his

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:47.600
<v Speaker 1>own flesh and blood, his own seed, I know what

0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>he'll do to me. Now. He he may have not

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:53.400
<v Speaker 1>done it yet because you know, we haven't gotten to

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 1>that point, but that's what he's capable of doing. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>big shot out man. You you resemble who you assemble.

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<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, beautiful. Dr Chandra Chandra, Chandra, Chira Richardson, I

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<v Speaker 1>got it, man, Dr Sandra Richardson. Hey, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>coming over. We can do this again though, because some

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 1>other things that I wanted to talk about, but uh,

0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:30.320
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk coming out of abuse when it's the family,

0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:34.000
<v Speaker 1>coming out of abuse when it's in the family, when

0:49:34.040 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 1>it's in the family, and we deal with that at

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 1>school more than people would imagine. It's a lot of

0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:47.560
<v Speaker 1>her kids. It's most people in the world, I think

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:54.600
<v Speaker 1>come from some form of abusive you know, family situation,

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:58.239
<v Speaker 1>like some kind of abuses that you know, whether it's

0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:03.560
<v Speaker 1>physical abuse, emotional abuse is something there almost all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that a lot of people just don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the tools to the parent, you know. But everybody

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 1>got the tuols to have sex, you know, and everybody

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:16.919
<v Speaker 1>get horny. You know what I'm saying. But again, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for coming on the show. Thank you for How

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<v Speaker 1>can people reach you? I can be reached at M

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<v Speaker 1>well I an email address or something you can gain.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe employed, I can say, well, yes, I'm with the

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<v Speaker 1>Houston Independent School District and I'm at Worthy High School

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<v Speaker 1>and the South Side and the Pride of Sunny Side.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh there, definitely can reach out there. My email address

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<v Speaker 1>is Chandra c h A N D R A dot

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<v Speaker 1>Richardson r I C h A R D s O

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<v Speaker 1>N at A T T dot net. That is, ladies

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<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen. We thank you for your co operation. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>no more talk. This episode was produced by Aching and

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