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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Myle mind, we have a lot to

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Speaker 1: talk to you about. Thanks for joining us from all

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Speaker 1: across the land and actually around the world too. For

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Speaker 1: our streaming listeners, the iHeart APT fantastic. So yesterday was

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Speaker 1: quite a day. We got a little bit of after

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Speaker 1: action reporting an analysis on what the heck just happened.

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Speaker 1: We have a special counsel against the Democrat president the

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Speaker 1: first time since Bill Clinton's special prosecutor situation. We'll break

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Speaker 1: that down for you. Plus there's a few other stories

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Speaker 1: that are getting our attention that we think are worthy

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Speaker 1: of yours as well. We have the calls on Santos,

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Speaker 1: the new Member of Congress from Long Island, goop guy

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Speaker 1: to step down from some but others just said not

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Speaker 1: so fast. And we have some updates from the True

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Speaker 1: Crime Realm for you. But today the big thing. Oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, we want to take a lot of calls.

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Speaker 1: Clay and I were talking to this. We want to

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Speaker 1: hear from all of you from across this great country

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Speaker 1: of ours. Eight hundred two way two two eight day two.

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Speaker 1: So if I said that too fast eight two two

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Speaker 1: to hear from you, because there's a lot that's in

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Speaker 1: the air here depending on who you listen to, this

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Speaker 1: right now, Clay, is either a apparatus plot to remove

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Speaker 1: Biden or or there are some who are saying that

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Speaker 1: now because the president has been established of how fair

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Speaker 1: more likely to be prosecuted. I don't subscribe to that,

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Speaker 1: but there are we have some audio of somebody's saying it.

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Speaker 1: And then there's also the possibility. We know that they

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Speaker 1: held this before the election, and that's clear, but maybe

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Speaker 1: there's the possibility here that the Democrat machine has been

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Speaker 1: wrong footed, has been caught a little off guard by

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Speaker 1: this in some way. I still add people asking me

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Speaker 1: last night, Clay, whether I thought it was plausible that

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Speaker 1: people would find these documents and not just take them

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Speaker 1: to a shredder or a burnbag. Remember, these are folks

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Speaker 1: who would have access to those processes that you know,

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Speaker 1: millions of pages of documents are being destroyed, burnbag shredded

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Speaker 1: every day. Can we start. I want to go through

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Speaker 1: the different theories as to what happened, because it's fascinating

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Speaker 1: I've also got to pull up who's going to replace Biden?

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Speaker 1: By the way, overwhelmingly right now? If Biden is replaced,

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Speaker 1: is the poll overwhelming the Gavin Newsom not Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 1: I disagree with my beloved pull folks on this one.

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Speaker 1: I think it will be Kamala Harris. But Clay, why

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Speaker 1: didn't the documents just get made to disappear? That's what

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. None of this story makes sense at

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Speaker 1: all to me. And I keep going back to the

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Speaker 1: timeline on this for why it doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 1: And I know we talked about this a little bit yesterday, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I've still got the dates in front of me that

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Speaker 1: were given to us by Merrick Garland. So admittedly we

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Speaker 1: are presuming that this timeline is accurate. They made the

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Speaker 1: discovery on November second, six days before the mid term.

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Speaker 1: They did not, according to the Merrick Garland timeline, find

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Speaker 1: additional documents classified documents in the garage beside the corvette

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Speaker 1: until December twentieth, at Joe Biden's Wilmington, Delaware home. They

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Speaker 1: then supposedly found another classified document on January the eleventh.

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Speaker 1: At a minimum, Buck, they knew that when this story broke,

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Speaker 1: documents they had found at the garage. What I can't

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Speaker 1: documents initially on November second. We then undertook a massive

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Speaker 1: then find more documents on December twentieth, Buck, if I,

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Speaker 1: If you find classified documents in your home in Tennessee, Clay,

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Speaker 1: But still the bigger question is how could you go

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Speaker 1: let's keep this. I think in mind that the apparatus

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Speaker 1: here was very cognizant. Remember this came out right before

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Speaker 1: people who say it wouldn't have mattered were also the

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Speaker 1: same people, every single one of them, who believe that

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Speaker 1: trust me, the October Surprise Brigade doesn't just march in

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Speaker 1: one direction. It's ridiculous. They would have known that this

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Speaker 1: have influenced the election, which is why they said it. Right.

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Speaker 1: But so let's keep in mind you're talking about the delay.

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Speaker 1: So you could see how the same logic of the

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Speaker 1: November would apply until at least some weeks later. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that was influencing the timeline, but

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Speaker 1: As you would say, if you were a lawyer, evidence

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Speaker 1: that you acknowledge it would have been negative towards you. Buck.

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Speaker 1: Like if you if you are saying, hey, we just

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Speaker 1: when everybody was conducting an investigation into whether there's asbestos

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Speaker 1: under their timeline that Merritt Garland has now provided us.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't add up to me that if you found

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Speaker 1: We know, Clay that they play games with the timeline, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it does. They had a back and forth. They

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Speaker 1: raid on Mara Lago back and forth for months and months.

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Speaker 1: If it was the nuclear because this is what I

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Speaker 1: If it really were the nuclear code modes that were

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Speaker 1: correct those change all the time, I'm sure, But if

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Speaker 1: doesn't actually make sense based on the timeline they had there. Look, government,

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Speaker 1: So there's there's a lot of ability to do that.

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Speaker 1: less the machiavellian Oh we're playing. Don't assume Democrats are

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Speaker 1: playing four dhs on this one. I mean Clay documents

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Speaker 1: is this is my theory for all of you. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, let me know what you think. Light

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Speaker 1: up those lines, Clai, I want to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred two A two two A two. My theory

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Speaker 1: what the motive, if there is a motive of this

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Speaker 1: whole embrolio is well used correctly used word yes, And

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Speaker 1: I think that's because they're not sure yet. I think

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Speaker 1: going to be. I don't think that they're to our

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Speaker 1: point yesterday. Do I think ron Klain is sitting around,

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Speaker 1: you know, tapping his fingers together, going ha ha, Now

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Speaker 1: I get to have Kamala as the president. No, I

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Speaker 1: even no matter what role she's in, some people say

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Speaker 1: don't make them look dumb. If they look dumb, they

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Speaker 1: get upset. That's true. And that's where they are right

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Speaker 1: Like they'll say whatever. It's when they feel like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know and now it looked like an idiot.

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Speaker 1: That's when the media it gets upset about it. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt. We'll take some of

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Speaker 1: welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We'll take

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Speaker 1: some of your calls here in a moment. But I

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Speaker 1: wanted to point out that late night talk show host

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Speaker 1: comedy used to be comedy. Shows used to take even

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Speaker 1: shots Republican Democrat, whoever was in power, they would go after.

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Speaker 1: The Biden regime has become so incompetent of late that

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Speaker 1: even the late night talk show hosts are starting to

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Speaker 1: make fun of Joe Biden. And I thought both of these,

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Speaker 1: let's start with I believe Jimmy Fallon making a joke

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Speaker 1: at Joe Biden's expense, and then we'll play Jimmy Kimmel.

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Speaker 1: But let's start with Fallon. Here was foulon last night,

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Speaker 1: Another classified document was found in the room that Biden

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Speaker 1: calls his personal library just say bathroom. The White House

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Speaker 1: said it was just a small number of classified documents.

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Speaker 1: It's like your doctors, ain't no worry. It's just a

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Speaker 1: smidge of herpes. All right, So that is Jimmy Fallon

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Speaker 1: now Jimmy Kimmel, both of whom usually are always defending

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Speaker 1: the regime and power. Here they are last night on

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Kemmel's show making fun of Joe Biden as well.

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Speaker 1: He's super proud of that corvette, isn't he? You know?

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Speaker 1: I am a corvette. I don't know. It's like we

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Speaker 1: have a President Burt Reynolds all of a sudden, which

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Speaker 1: is more dangerous Joe Biden having classified documents in his

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Speaker 1: garage or Joe Biden having the keys to a corvette. So, look,

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Speaker 1: they're starting to mock him, and this could go towards

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Speaker 1: whether or not he becomes a viable candidate in twenty

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Speaker 1: three and buck this was the big question that was

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Speaker 1: kind of floating around out there. Is this basically a

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Speaker 1: political hit job ordered on Joe Biden? Or is this

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Speaker 1: a sign of the Biden regimes incompetence. I'm really coming

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Speaker 1: down on the more I look and study this, I

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Speaker 1: think it's just an incompetent, unforced error. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's some master manipulator here, And so that then pushes

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Speaker 1: me back toward I don't believe this is gonna stop

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden from running. I don't see it. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, right, that's not where that's not kind of

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Speaker 1: where the momentum is right now with a lot of folks.

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Speaker 1: But I still because I look at it this way,

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Speaker 1: what do Democrats want more than anything else? Power? Who

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Speaker 1: is most likely for them to win? The incumbent president

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Speaker 1: who is likely to face I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how likely, but very very strong possibility, the same opponent

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Speaker 1: he faced in twenty twenty. Yeah, so it's a replay

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Speaker 1: of that, but he's an incumbent now instead of a challenger.

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Speaker 1: Or we allow or rather they allow for a total

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Speaker 1: free for all primary battle, or they just say, well

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Speaker 1: it's going to be Kamala because Joe doesn't even finish

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Speaker 1: out the first term and then she becomes the incumbent

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Speaker 1: president and then runs for reelection as an incumbent. By

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Speaker 1: the way, there's no chance in my mind that Biden

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Speaker 1: finish it, Like it would be crazy for him to

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Speaker 1: finish out his term. And at the very end, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, I think you'd have to step down.

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Speaker 1: I'm a major health condition that he has with like

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Speaker 1: a month or two left in you know his term,

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Speaker 1: which means you're looking at Biden as president probably for

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Speaker 1: one more year and that would be it. And then

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Speaker 1: he would step down and let Kamala take over and

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Speaker 1: run as an incumbent and be president while running. Now

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Speaker 1: you know, these are all these are all options, these

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Speaker 1: are all possibilities. But to me, there there I am

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Speaker 1: most concerned about about the Democrats getting four more years

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Speaker 1: of a presidency if Joe Biden runs for re election.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it. And I know that can

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Speaker 1: sound crazy to people, but it was crazy that he

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Speaker 1: won in twenty twenty. Oh. I I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to run him. I don't think

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Speaker 1: this changes anything, and it's almost I know you're a

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Speaker 1: tennis player. There's a difference between somebody hitting a great

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Speaker 1: shot and scoring a point on you and an unforced

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Speaker 1: error where you just miss hit the ball and it

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Speaker 1: goes into the net. Right, That's when you start cursing loudly.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You clap for the great

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Speaker 1: shot against you, you curse when you hit it in

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Speaker 1: the bottom the net like a fool. This to me

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Speaker 1: is an unforced error by the Bidens. I understand there's

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Speaker 1: this desire out there to believe that this level of

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Speaker 1: incompetence is not possible, and that there's some manipulator out

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Speaker 1: there pulling the puppet strings and they've decided, oh, Biden's

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Speaker 1: no longer the guy. I just I don't buy that

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Speaker 1: at all. And if you take it back beyond this buck,

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Speaker 1: if in August we had said the Democrats, hey, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna pick up one Senate seat, You're only gonna lose

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Speaker 1: around ten seats in the House, but Joe Biden's gonna

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Speaker 1: have a classified documents scandal, they would have signed up

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Speaker 1: for that in a heartbeat, right. So I still think

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Speaker 1: biden standing based on the midterms is infinitely higher than

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Speaker 1: we expected it would be, even with this unforced air.

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Speaker 1: Got a bunch of lines. Lit I just would ask

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Speaker 1: for everybody, we're gonna get on here in a second.

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Speaker 1: Don't we love all of you, Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for listening, Jump right to it, get right to what

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Speaker 1: you're thinking here, because because we've got lines have been

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Speaker 1: just going crazy. Everybody wants to weigh in on this one.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with Mike in Odessa, Georgia, retired Navy officer.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Mike, can you guys hear me? Okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: two items for you. I'll get to him real quick.

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Speaker 1: I had a security clearance for you know, over thirty

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Speaker 1: plus years, every year constantly drummed into US safety safety, safety, protected,

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Speaker 1: protect Protect. Wouldn't you think after how many years he's

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Speaker 1: been in the politics that he would learn how to

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Speaker 1: protect things? Well, I'll I can tell you that we

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Speaker 1: all know this. I knew this was my time in

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Speaker 1: the CIA two thousand and five and two ten. Politicians

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Speaker 1: the worst when it comes to this stuff. Politicians think

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Speaker 1: that they operate under a different set of rules when

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Speaker 1: it comes to classified. They leak like sieves. They do

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Speaker 1: not care. So, Mike, I gotta tell you Biden is

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Speaker 1: particularly reckless, but a lot of politicians in general, they

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Speaker 1: just figure they'll they'll get out of it. Um, you

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Speaker 1: had something else, one quick, one quick second one. Everybody

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Speaker 1: who has been in that garage by the classified corvette.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't they need to beat debris whether they saw it

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Speaker 1: or not. No, they I don't think so. And also

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Speaker 1: they'd have no way of being able to really even

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Speaker 1: check and see. I don't think they had surveillance cameras

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Speaker 1: in the garage. The whole time. But if they, if

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Speaker 1: they were in the vicinity of it, there's no reason

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Speaker 1: to believe it they actually were reading it. As Clay's

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Speaker 1: pointed out aptly, thank you for calling in, Mike Clay.

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Speaker 1: This is where you put the dusty old trophies, you know.

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Speaker 1: This is where you put the plaque from the Rotary

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Speaker 1: Club or something. You know what I mean. The garage

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Speaker 1: is the place the closest on the way to the dump.

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Speaker 1: You know, the argument that anything is secure or other

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Speaker 1: than your car, which obviously you keep in the garage.

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Speaker 1: The garage is where you put things that you don't

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Speaker 1: value enough to keep inside the climate controlled home. Everybody

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Speaker 1: gets that. Art in Washington, George, a lot of Georgia

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Speaker 1: calls what's up? Art? Have you afternoon? Gentlemen? I think, doctor,

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Speaker 1: what was the twenty sixteen when uh uh you know,

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Speaker 1: we're standing there staring at the talent at the TV

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Speaker 1: listening to uh. There was no intent, No no judge

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Speaker 1: lawyer would would take up this case, you know. And

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Hillary Clinton server in the basement

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Speaker 1: and all of that. And I think how that turned out,

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Speaker 1: and I think this is gonna be this this document

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Speaker 1: thing with Biden, there's gonna be another nothing burger. They're

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Speaker 1: just they're just gonna they'll play it out for a

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Speaker 1: little bit and then no brush it to the side. Well,

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Speaker 1: what I would say, thanks for the call, Art, What

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Speaker 1: I would say, Art, can I guess? I actually I

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Speaker 1: agree with Art, so go ahead play well. But also

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Speaker 1: the tu they're gonna say the same thing about Trump,

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Speaker 1: I think, right, I think they're going to come out

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Speaker 1: and the you know, Merrick Garland will wag his finger

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Speaker 1: and say everybody needs to take better care of documents.

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Speaker 1: And both of these guys could be charged with crimes,

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Speaker 1: but no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges in these cases

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Speaker 1: and basically like offsetting fact, so I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna do it. At the same time, I think they're

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Speaker 1: going to end the Biden probe whatever it is, and

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Speaker 1: the probe is basically over already. I think they're going

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Speaker 1: to end the Biden probe pretty quickly before the election

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Speaker 1: gets in the full season. I think, because as you

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Speaker 1: aptly pointed out, there's also the January six components that's

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Speaker 1: tied into that special Council. I think they let that

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Speaker 1: thing run all the way up to election day. That's

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Speaker 1: what I think they'll do. The January sixth, I agree,

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Speaker 1: is not going to get resolved, but I think they'll

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Speaker 1: wipe off. Basically, it's like when you have two guys

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Speaker 1: who were fighting on a football field investigation, because that's

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Speaker 1: part of Jackson. I think he could I think he

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Speaker 1: could buy. I think he could buy for Kadam. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about now you know, whether you could separate, separate

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