1 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. 2 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 3 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: I am Mike Spofford, joined by the one and only 4 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from our studios 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: at lambeau Field to preview Week four lambeau Field Packers 6 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: against the Vikings. It will be a noon Central Time 7 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: kickoff and uh wes. Packers are two and one. As 8 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: we know, Jordan Love is continuing to practice. He's feeling better, 9 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: he's moving better, he's still limited. We don't know if 10 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: he's going to play or not. So it could be 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: Jordan Love, it could be Milik Willis. But what we 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: do know is the Minnesota Vikings are three and oh 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: and they are sitting on top of the NFC North 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: And I'll let you decide where you want to start. 15 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: Whether it's with Sam darm and his one seventeen passer 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: rating in what appears to be the resurrection of a 17 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: somewhat previously lost career, or this Vikings defense that leads 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: the league with sixteen sacks and has only allowed thirty 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: points in three games. The Vikings are are pretty formidable 20 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball. Here This isn't This 21 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: isn't just some kind of one trick pony club. 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: I'm glad that you didn't open with the Aaron Jones thing, 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: because I might just end up filling up the entire 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: episode with I have. 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: We'll get to it, this, we'll get to it. 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: We'll get to Aaron Jones. 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: I want to start with Donald. If I may and 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 3: you wrote already about the defense, you can touch on that, 29 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: and I maybe I can interject a little bit. But 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: Sam Donald really impresses me for two reasons. One, I 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: like this idea Baker Mayfield achieve this as well. I 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: like this idea of guys who specifically are from that 33 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: draft class that it didn't work out for them in. 34 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: Their first stop. 35 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: They had to find their way again, and it wasn't easy. 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: Mayfield ended up making a spot start on five days 37 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: notice with the Los Angeles Rams couple of years ago. 38 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: After it didn't work out in Carolina, Donald goes to Carolina, 39 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: it also doesn't work out. He goes to San Francisco, 40 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: gets a few opportunities. I remember when the forty nine 41 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: ers signed him. I'm kind of like, what are they doing? 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: Why do they need him? And then he ends up 43 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: being counted on. And then the Minnesota Vikings and tip 44 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: your cap to them for this decision because they move 45 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: on from Kirk Cousins. They draft JJ McCarthy, but Sam 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: Donald is chosen as that kind of bridge gapping quarterback, 47 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: and then of course this injury with the knee happens 48 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 3: with McCarthy, So now Sam Donald is the starting quarterback. 49 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 3: And when you get guys who are naturally talented, a 50 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: first round pedigree, that learn from their mistakes and make 51 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: the adjustments like Donald has, I think you got to 52 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: tip your cap to him. And as I've told you 53 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: several times this week already, I tip my cap to 54 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell because he's been in this position several times now. 55 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: For him to have a winning record in his time 56 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: as the Minnesota Vikings head coach with as many different 57 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: quarterbacks as he's had to cycle through, I think speaks 58 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: to his creativeness. And seeing these two sides match up, 59 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: I think is just going to make for tremendous theater 60 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 3: on Sunday. 61 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's going to be an incredible matchup. 62 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: We've we've seen what Matt Lafleuur has done under the 63 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: gun with Malik Willis not having been here very long 64 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: devising these different types of game plans, getting Willis to 65 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: execute the offense to the level that he has and 66 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: the Packers get two wins without Jordan Love. Kevin O'Connell 67 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: we saw him last year with Minnesota when Kirk Cousins 68 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 2: first went down, which happened at lambeau Field actually in 69 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: the middle of the season. When Cousins first went down, 70 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: they threw Josh Dobbs in there at quarterback, and you know, 71 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: Dobbs sort of I guess a journeyman, a guy trying 72 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: to find his way, however you want to say it. 73 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: And the Vikings won three games with Josh Dobbs. Kevin 74 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: O'Connell was the guy devising the game plans and the 75 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: stuff that Matt Lafleur has been doing this year. He 76 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: was doing that. They got some wins with Josh Dobbs, 77 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: three of them, and they were staying in the playoff 78 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: hunt for a little while, and then the rest of 79 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: the league kind of caught up to what going on 80 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: with Josh Dobbs. Then the Vikings shifted gears to Nick Mullins. 81 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: Mullins actually came very very close in two games to 82 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: beating the Lions and the Bengals. He came up short 83 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: in both of those games, but again it was a 84 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: testament to Kevin O'Connell taking a new quarterback, figuring something 85 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: out and keeping his team competitive and giving them a 86 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: chance to win. I think the difference now that it's 87 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: Sam Donald instead of Nick Bullen's or Josh Dobbs, the 88 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 2: difference is that Sam Donald was drafted at the top 89 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: of the first round for a reason. He's a first 90 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: round talent. There is a ton to work with there. 91 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell just has that much more to work with 92 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: in this change at quarterback than he had last year 93 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: after the cousin's injury, and its showing both of these 94 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: head coaches are incredibly creative and resourceful offensive minds in 95 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 2: terms of figuring out how to compete, how to get 96 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: their teams with different quarterbacks in a position to win games. 97 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: You're not necessarily gonna win them all, No, that's not 98 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: how it works in this league. But these two head 99 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: coaches and what they've both been through here in the 100 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 2: very recent past and that not so distant past, I 101 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: think it makes for a whale of a matchup. 102 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: It does. 103 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: And I'm sure if you ask anybody on these Shanahan 104 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 3: McVeigh coaching trees, nobody's gonna say, hey, I want to 105 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: play without my quarterback, right But it's impressive to see 106 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 3: how all these guys have managed it, whether it's Kyle Shannon, 107 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: whether it is Sean McVay. To some extent, you look 108 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 3: at it last year, what happened in Cincinnati. I mean, 109 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: there are so many different With Zach Taylor, there's so 110 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 3: many different situations that you get thrust into, and you 111 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: can tell how these guys all embrace it. And beyond that, 112 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: the Minnesota vikings last year kind of reminded me of 113 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 3: a car that had some real bad issues underneath the engine, 114 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 3: but they just had a pretty good mechanic that kept 115 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: that thing going until ultimately, I think it did run 116 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: out of gas and kind of fell to the side 117 00:05:59,440 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 3: of the road. 118 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: They had to reset. 119 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: But the fact that this happened with McCarthy, you hate 120 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: that he's not going to get that year of development 121 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: now on the field. But it's almost like O'Connell and everybody, 122 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: they were prepared and understood what the task was going 123 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: to be. And much like what Green Bay did with 124 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 3: Malik Willis. Donald has a bevy of weapons at his disposal. 125 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 3: He has arguably the best receiver in the National Football 126 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: League that he's throwing to. He has, independent of his 127 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: connections to the Packers, one of the most consistently prolific 128 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 3: running backs in the National Football League over the last 129 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: five six years in Aaron Jones. I think the offensive 130 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: line still has some issues. I've felt that way for 131 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 3: several years now with the Vikings. But all that being said, 132 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 3: they're playing winning football right now and it starts with 133 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: what Donald is doing under center. 134 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, let's get into where things are with Aaron Jones. 135 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: Through three games with Minnesota, he has two hundred and 136 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: twenty eight rushing yards ninety seven receiving yards, so well 137 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: over three hundred yards from scrimmage in three games, a 138 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: couple of touchdowns, one rush, one receiving. I think the 139 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: number that jumps out the most is that he's averaging 140 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: five point four yards per carry thus far for the Vikings. 141 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: He's uh, he's been everything the Vikings could have hoped for, 142 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: and certainly what he is doing for Minnesota is not 143 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: a surprise to anybody in Green Bay who knows him. 144 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: And he'll be uh, he'll be wearing a different uniform, 145 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: but he'll be back in lambeau Field Sunday. It's going 146 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: to be really interesting to watch him again. 147 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: It will be Mike and and from an ex as 148 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: and O's perspective at Isaam McDuffie had some interesting points 149 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: and saying the challenge with Jones is even though he's 150 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: as small as he is, it's that he still finds 151 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: a way to drag you for three or five extra yards. 152 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: He's he's almost he's kind of like a miniature Derrick 153 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: Henry in a way where it's just like it's you 154 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: look at him and you think, okay, it's a smaller 155 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: type backscat back. Now Aaron Jones packs a punch and 156 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: now the Packers, after having to try to just tag 157 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: off on him for seven years, now have to bring 158 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: him down to the ground. And that's going to be 159 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: a challenging in and of itself from a humanistic standpoint. 160 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: You heard it with Mattle talking at the podium this week. 161 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: You heard it from the guys in the locker room. 162 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: This is undisputed one of the most popular Green Bay 163 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: Packer players in the modern time of this franchise. Yes, 164 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: fan perspective, players perspective. I joked with Matt Steiman in 165 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: the locker room on Wednesday, I think we're all doing 166 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: these Aaron Jones stories, myself included. I think the more 167 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: intriguing story would be to walk around trying to find 168 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: one person who doesn't like Aaron Jones in Green Bay's 169 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: locker room or anywhere in the world. I mean, this 170 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: guy has such an incredible personality, has such incredible perspective, 171 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: and comes from such an incredible family. And I was 172 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: kind of marinating on that a little bit as I 173 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: was finishing up the story that I wrote for our 174 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: website on Thursday morning. It was about nine o'clock at night, 175 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: and I'm kind of going through the story and going 176 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: through his Player's Tribune article, which was fantastic. 177 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you if you haven't seen the Player's 178 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 2: Tribune piece, by all means, please check it out. It's 179 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: an absolutely wonderful tribute to Green Bay, the organization and 180 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 2: the fans of this franchise and what and how Aaron 181 00:08:58,520 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: Jones feels about hold it. 182 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: Aaron Jones didn't just go, hey, look at all the 183 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: great stuff that happened some crap happened to him. I mean, 184 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: he mentioned getting busted, you know, getting pulled over what 185 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: it was with marijuana in his system, and that costing 186 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: him a game, and him feeling like that that was 187 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: costing the team. And you know, obviously the sad stuff 188 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 3: that happened with his father in twenty twenty one. And 189 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: you know, I still have the text message on my 190 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: phone from Elvin Senior when he congratulated me on the 191 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: birth of my son, and you know, running into it. 192 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: You know, his mom Virgus out in the verrgis out 193 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: in the parking lot after Aaron had been released and 194 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: had signed with the Vikings and her seeing me and 195 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 3: immediately the first thing before I even get any words out, 196 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: is her going, why are you so sad? I mean, 197 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: just the perspective. This family has almost sixty years collectively 198 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 3: between his parents in the US military, and it all 199 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: trickled down to Aaron and his brother and his sister 200 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: in that entire family and Aaron Junior. Now, I mean, 201 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: this guy means so much to this football team. But 202 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: as Matt Lafleur said, for three hours, you have to 203 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: press pause on all that because they have to get 204 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: and thirty three to the ground. And while Aaron Jones gives, 205 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: you know, his departure leaves a lot in terms of 206 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: a void of the Packers locker room. His presence here 207 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: for those seven years left so much behind with the 208 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: players that are there, with the coaches that are there. 209 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: And as I said on my Instagram story earlier this week, 210 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: I mean, you hate to see him in a number 211 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: another color uniform, but it is going to be tremendous 212 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: to see him back at Lambeufield on Sunday. Yeah. 213 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: I can't even I can't even imagine for him, like emotionally, 214 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: what it's going to be like. You know, we talked 215 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: about a little bit with regard to you know, Malik 216 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: Willis walking back into you know, Nissan Stadium in Nashville. 217 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: But this, this is, this is entirely different, you know, 218 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: because this is not about this. This is about one 219 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: of the franchise's all time greats, you know, the number 220 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: three leading rusher in the one hundred plus years of 221 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers football. And and for everything that Aaron 222 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: Jones accomplished on the field, he's remembered around here for 223 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: the person, the man, you know, the son, the brother 224 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: that he has always been off the field, and uh, yeah, 225 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: it's it'll it'll I think it'll be. I think it'll 226 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: be mixed emotions for all of us watching from the 227 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: press box. It's like, there's there's gonna be like, you know, 228 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: when when uh, when that number thirty three gets the ball, 229 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: it's like, all right, yeah the packers and Packers have 230 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: to tackle him. But at the same time, if he 231 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: breaks into the open field and has a big play, 232 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: it'll be interesting. Just how how is the crowd at 233 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: Lambo going to react to that, you know, because he's 234 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: he is such a such a beloved player. 235 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: Mike, you're gonna hear a pin drop, is what's gonna happen? Yeah, 236 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: what happened? I may think, I think so, I mean yeah. 237 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 3: And just to mention too, I mean a lot of 238 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: people have been asking this. An insider inboxing, you've seen 239 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: it too. We both answered the questions. Just how fans 240 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: are supposed to feel, Well, here's the thing where the 241 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: fans get kind of lucky. Yes, your your voice, it matters, 242 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 3: your cheers matter, but ultimately you just have to watch 243 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: what happens. The Packers' defense, they're the ones that have 244 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: to deal with this. 245 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: Problem. 246 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: And as Kenny Clark said, you watch what he did 247 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 3: in Texas. When you go back to Dallas, the way 248 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 3: he played, He's going to be juiced up for this 249 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 3: matchup against the Packers. But as Kenny said, we're going 250 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: to be juiced up too. Isaiah McDuffie wasn't talking about 251 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: this in terms of I mean, oh my goodness, we 252 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: got a face Aaron Jones. 253 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: He's like, no, I'm excited about This. 254 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: Is gonna be fun. 255 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: They are competitors at the end of the day. 256 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, But in terms of the Packers run defense and 257 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 3: some of the things you and I talked about the 258 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: last few weeks, this is a supreme test. This guy 259 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: is going to test you in ways they haven't been 260 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: tested that so far this season. 261 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. And oh, by the way, you also have to 262 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 2: deal with Justin Jefferson, who San Francisco forty nine Ers 263 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: found out. The answer is not as simple as okay, 264 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 2: let's just blit, Sam Darnold, because turn on the tape, 265 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: turn on the video from the Vikings win over the 266 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers in Week two. The Vikings are backed 267 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 2: up inside their own five yard line and the forty 268 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 2: nine Ers they send a five man rush. Right after 269 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: the snap, a sixth guy is coming, and as Darnald 270 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: sets up in the pocket, a seventh guy is coming 271 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: after him a seven man pressure and what happens. Justin 272 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: Jefferson catches a ninety seven yard touchdown pass absolutely burn 273 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers defense. And I mean in what 274 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: obviously was the difference making play in a game that 275 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: the Vikings won by seven points twenty four to seventeen 276 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: over the forty nine Ers, in a game that almost 277 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: nobody expected them to win, especially because they had upset 278 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers last year when nobody expected them 279 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: to be able to win that game. So we'll see 280 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: how the Packers go about it. I'm sure jy R. 281 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: Alexander wants to wants to line up against Justin Jefferson 282 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: and take that for all it's worth. But you know 283 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: how this goes as well. It's not as easy as 284 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: just doing that on every single snap for sixty five snaps. 285 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: You know of the game, there's gonna be some mix 286 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: and match that you have to change things up a 287 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: little bit to not allow them to necessarily know exactly 288 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: what you're doing on every single play. But I think 289 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: we're going to see number twenty three for the Packers 290 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: against Justin Jefferson plenty on Sunday afternoon. 291 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: And again my headline for Insider Inbox on Thursday was, 292 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: this is what these matchups are, what football is all about. 293 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: You want to see good on good, you want to 294 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: see best on best. And we've seen it several times 295 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: already with Jefferson and Alexander in the past, you know, 296 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: and all Pro, two time All Pro cornerback going up 297 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: against you know, a guy that has been rewarded as 298 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: the NFL's top receiver and still has very much everything 299 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: still ahead of him. And watching Jefferson be able to 300 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: play as seamlessly and as explosively as he has throughout 301 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: all these quarterback changes, I think speaks to the fact 302 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: of how talented this guy is. In a way, it 303 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: almost kind of reminds me of Calvin Johnson. Yeah, Kelvin 304 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: Johnson's a Pro Football Hall of Famer, but it's not 305 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: like he had Matthew Stafford there the entire time. He 306 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: had to wade through an ohe to sixteen season to 307 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: still be able to put up those numbers. 308 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy that comes to mind for me that 309 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: and I agree with you on Calvin Johnson, But the 310 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: one that comes to mind for me is Larry Fitzgerald 311 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: with the Arizona Cardinals. 312 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: And all the size wise for sure, and all. 313 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: The different quarterbacks that he went through, and the guy 314 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: played like a Hall of Famer and was a Hall 315 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: of Famer no matter who was throwing the ball. 316 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 3: And that is such a luxury for again, for Sam 317 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: Darnold who's going into this thing. The weapons he has 318 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: here are vastly different than the weapons he had available 319 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: to him in New York and Carolina. San Francisco obviously 320 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: saw him have some success last year. But it is again, 321 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: it's all over the place. But to me, I mean, 322 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll get to keys to Victi here in 323 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: a little bit, but I mean, you have to be 324 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: able to pressure him. I don't think you can send 325 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: the house every time. But they have given up eight 326 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: sacks this season. You have to find ways to generate 327 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 3: those takeaways and generate those negative yardage plays because if 328 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: you go back and look at when Green Bay has 329 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: been successful this year, that's how they've done it. 330 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, switching gears to the Vikings defense, it's there 331 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: are a couple of mainstays. Harrison Smith is still playing safety. 332 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: Harrison Phillip on the interior the defensive line. He's I 333 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: believe he just got a new contract. I did not 334 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: that not that long ago. But there are all kinds 335 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: of these other pieces that have been brought in from elsewhere. 336 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: You know, Jonathan Greenard and Andrew Van Ginkel are the 337 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: edge rushers. Those guys have combined for seven of the 338 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: sixteen sacks, the league leading sixteen sacks that the Vikings 339 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,359 Speaker 2: have put up. They went through several injuries at cornerback 340 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: during training camp, so they brought in Stefan Gilmour, the 341 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: veteran he's now a starting corner for them. And Brian Flores, 342 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator. This is his second year now with 343 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell and he has a scheme. He has a 344 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: scheme that is predicated on confusion in a lot of ways. It's, 345 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: you know, not letting the offense know what it is 346 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: that you're doing and trying to create that hesitation, trying 347 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: to create that confusion, the uncertainty on the offensive side 348 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 2: that doesn't all allow you to execute cleanly, to execute efficiently, 349 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: to move the ball. Through three games, they've caused all 350 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: kinds of problems, and you know, Brian Flores seems to have, 351 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: you know, he was just sort of feeling his way 352 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: in some ways putting this type of defense together in 353 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: Minnesota last year. It seems like with all these veterans 354 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 2: that they brought in, they don't have a lot of 355 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 2: inexperienced guys on that defense. With all these veterans that 356 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: have been brought in, Brian Flores has kind of cranked 357 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: it up a notch and his players are responding. 358 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 3: It's a perfect analogy in terms of them cranking up 359 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 3: a notch. And you know, and you give Flora's credit 360 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 3: for everything he's doing. I think he's a brilliant defensive mind. 361 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: But again, the only thing I and Matt Floora is 362 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 3: right that they're the only ones doing this. But it's 363 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 3: not like this is just completely newly invented football. This 364 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: is Bill Belichick's defense. This is the way they tried 365 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: to do things in the Patriots when things were going 366 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: really well when Tom Brady was there. Different fronts, different looks, 367 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 3: different personnel, matchup dependent schemes, which is, you know, we're 368 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 3: gonna find what we do well and we're gonna emphasize that. 369 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 3: But at the same time, if we think there's going 370 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 3: to be an opening there to take advantage of, we're 371 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 3: gonna jump all over that. And then the other aspect 372 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: of it. I always draw this analogy. I call this 373 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: a Madden situation, which is back when I was a 374 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: kid and I'd get the Madden Game every year. You 375 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 3: do the franchise mode, you get to free agency, and 376 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 3: you just try to sign all the best free agents 377 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 3: and then just put them in your defense. It doesn't 378 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: really really matter what it is. That's what the Vikings did. Yeah, 379 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 3: but I give them a lot of credit for as 380 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 3: many new additions as they've made, some of them high priced, 381 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: some of them more modest. They've made all this fit 382 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: and in Flores he had a plan here. I mean, 383 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: you look at guys like Van Ginkle coming in, had 384 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: the history in Miami. I think Grenard has been in 385 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: a sensation. Blake Cashman has been tremendous with what he's 386 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 3: done so far, and that's been a big shift in 387 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 3: the middle of that defense, which for so many years 388 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: always had very familiar faces. By and large, they'd play 389 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: really good team defense, and the defensive front is stout 390 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 3: you're going up against a unit that's given up seventy 391 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 3: one rushing yards a game. And it's also not just 392 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: the fact that no one's running against them. Teams are 393 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 3: trying and they're still only giving up the third fewest 394 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: rushing yards per play. Where I see the opportunity lying 395 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 3: for this Packers offense is I still have major questions 396 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 3: about that secondary. Stefan Gilmore has been around for a 397 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: long time, but I mean he came in late, and 398 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 3: it's not like his previous few years have all been 399 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 3: the same type of all pro level that it was 400 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 3: six seven years ago. Harrison Smith is still one of 401 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: the best to do it, but he's a little bit 402 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 3: longer in the tooth. The secondary is where the unraveling 403 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 3: started from Minnesota several years ago. I'm trying to figure 404 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 3: out right now if they've caught back up to where 405 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 3: it was kind of in the prime peak of that 406 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: Mike Zimmer defense. 407 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have Harrison Smith and Gambaying them are the safeties. 408 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: Those are the guys who have been there. As we said, 409 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: Gilmore has come in as a corner. Byron Murphy is 410 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: the other starting corner and he's been there. He knows 411 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: obviously Flores's system. I agree with you that that is 412 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: the play. That is the place where you look at 413 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: it and you think you should be able to attack 414 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: that secondary. But they just they make it. They make 415 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: it very difficult to get explosive plays, to get those 416 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 2: you know, to get those big gainers that shift the momentum, 417 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: and I mean, you know, and in this case, the 418 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: numbers don't lie. I mean, you play three. I don't 419 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 2: care who the opponents are, but I mean two of 420 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: these opponents were the forty nine ers and the Texans. 421 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: And yet through three games, these guys have only allowed 422 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: thirty points. That is really really hard to do over 423 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: any three game stretch in the NFL. 424 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 3: And keep this in mind too. You'll look at the 425 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: defense from Minnesota. You'll see twenty sixth against the pass 426 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: so far this season, two hundred and thirty nine yards allowed. 427 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 3: They are eleventh in yards per play. When you're talking 428 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: about not giving up explosive plays, that's where it's reflected 429 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 3: in chunk plays. They're making you go the whole span 430 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 3: of the field. They're getting pressures, they're getting takeaways, they're 431 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 3: getting in to the house. 432 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to our keys to victory right after 433 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: sponsor business. Here West Sirius XM. 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I'm gonna start on this 441 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: one because I did a little bit of the research 442 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 2: and the math here and what I find to be 443 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 2: a rather alarming but impressive statistic with regard to the 444 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: vikings they have in their three victories. They have trailed 445 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: for all of three minutes and twenty six seconds. Against 446 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: the New York Giants. They were down three to nothing 447 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: for three and a half minutes before they took the lead. 448 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: In that game, they have been tied for roughly twenty 449 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: one minutes of play, and those ties being only at 450 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: zero zero before the first score of the game. So 451 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: for one hundred and fifty five and a half minutes 452 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 2: out of one hundred and eighty they have been playing 453 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: with a lead. Now. There is no better way to 454 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: help a new quarterback, as the Packers have shown with 455 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: Malik Willis, there is no better way to help a 456 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: defense than to be playing from in front, and that 457 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: is that has been the formula for the Minnesota Vikings, 458 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 2: is to get on top and stay there. I think 459 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: you know, a fast start never hurts you in football, right, 460 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: But if you're going to make it a priority for 461 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: any given game to start fast, it's this one. Because 462 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: if you can flip that script on Minnesota, you get 463 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: them maybe out of their comfort zone a little bit. 464 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: They have to try to win a game in a 465 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: way that they haven't won before, which is to come 466 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: from behind. If you can start fast and jump on 467 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: these guys early, I'll be curious to see. I'll be 468 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: curious to see what happens. I think it's I think 469 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: it's exactly what the Packers need to do someday. 470 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 3: The Vikings are twenty ninth in average time of possession, 471 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 3: Like that's wild that their defense has been this dominant, 472 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 3: But yet they've been out there pretty much more than 473 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 3: any other unit in the league in terms of at 474 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 3: least the teams that are really playing winning football here 475 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 3: early on. That part of it fascinates me, and I 476 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: agree with you one hundred percent. I think when you 477 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 3: and Xavier McKinny, that same statistic was brought to Zavier 478 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: McKinney at his locker. 479 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: On Wednesday, and he's like, wow. 480 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 3: He's like, I didn't really even fully appreciate that that 481 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: it was only three minutes in change, and he's like, 482 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: that speaks to a lot of efficiency. It speaks to 483 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 3: being able to jump on teams, and it also speaks 484 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 3: to explosive gains in the fact that I think Sam 485 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: Darnod's already thrown a ninety seven yard touchdown pass this 486 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 3: season to Justin Jefferson, So being able to get points 487 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 3: on the board is paramount, but seeing how their defense 488 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 3: has also reacted to it as critical. I personally feel like, 489 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: when I break down this matchup, green Bay has to 490 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 3: be able to run the football. We'll see is it 491 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 3: Jordan Love, is it Malik Willis. Time will tell, we'll 492 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: know ninety minutes before the game. 493 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: Likely yep. 494 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 3: But Minnesota is a lot like Tennessee. Their bodies aren't 495 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: as big, but they rally to the football and they 496 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: get guys to the ground. Green Bay has to battle 497 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 3: through that. They need to set that tone because I 498 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 3: think if you do that, regardless of who's that quarterback, 499 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 3: that's where the secondary really opens up to you. And 500 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: the Packers have the horses to do it. Josh Jacobs, 501 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: you know last week he had to earn every yard 502 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 3: that he got, but we saw against Indianapolis how he 503 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: can take over a football game, can take over a 504 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: first half. Emmanuel Wilson eighty five total yards this past weekend, 505 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 3: first NFL touchdown pass quickly is proving he can be 506 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: a bona fide number two running back in this league, 507 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: and he's still climbing. I think that the potential is 508 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: there for Green Bay to really have success against this front, 509 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 3: but you have to earn it and the blueprint is there. 510 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 3: The schemes have been different, the game plans have varied, 511 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: but protecting the football, establishing the run in feasting off 512 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: explosive plays, that's been the prototype to the Packers having 513 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: the fifth top offense in the NFL right now on 514 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 3: the number one ranked run offense in the NFL, despite 515 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: the fact that Jordan Love hasn't played eight quarters. 516 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the when you look at when you look at 517 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: what the Minnesota Vikings are trying to do defensively with 518 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: regard to the confusion, all the different all the different 519 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 2: pressure looks, and you know, are they blitzing, are they bluffing? 520 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 2: Are they you know, who's coming, who's not? All that 521 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. There's a big difference in the success 522 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: rate of that kind of stuff on third and eight 523 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: versus third and two. Right, I mean so, and that 524 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: speaks to you got to be able to run the ball. 525 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 2: You've got to be able to stay ahead of the chains, 526 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: because when you get behind the chains, then it's all about, Okay, 527 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: what what is Brian Flores and these guys, you know 528 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: what are what are they dialing up in this situation 529 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: to just to just be disruptive and cause all these 530 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 2: questions as to exactly what's going on out there. So 531 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: I agree with you entirely. And then, of course it 532 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 2: almost goes without saying, but the Packers' success so far 533 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: this season defensively has very much been predicated on turning 534 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 2: the ball over, on getting the takeaways. I mean, to 535 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 2: have three in a game for three straight games, that's 536 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: a tough streak to continue. But man, if you can 537 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: keep taking the ball away. Even if it's just one 538 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 2: or two times against the Vikings here, that could go 539 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: a long way toward a potential. 540 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: Vick, especially if you do it early. 541 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 3: I felt like for all those big plays they made, 542 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 3: and I did my best to summarize all of them 543 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 3: in the Key to the Game story after afterwards. But 544 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: I really thought everything started with jy R. Alexander. And 545 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it has to be a pick six 546 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 3: every time, sure, but when you have a play that 547 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: takes the air out of the balloon of an offense, 548 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 3: the momentum game never shifted. I mean, there were times 549 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 3: that Tennessee still had success, but it didn't feel the 550 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 3: same as it did before that moment where the game 551 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 3: goes from ten to seven to seventeen to seven. 552 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: You need that moment again in this game. 553 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: If Sam Darnold does make a mistake, if he's trying 554 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 3: to test you deep, you have to find ways to 555 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: execute upon that. The most exciting thing to me, I 556 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 3: didn't cover the twenty eleven defense like you did. Can't 557 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 3: give you the blow by blowing exactly what happened there. 558 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: With the amount of takeaways they had relative the amount 559 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 3: of yards they conceded. But this unit, to me, at 560 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: least in my time, they are the most apt to 561 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 3: taking away the ball at every single level that I 562 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: think I've covered. I think they have the safeties on 563 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 3: the back end to make those plays. We saw with 564 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 3: jyr Alexander what he can do outside. I think Eric 565 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 3: Stokes's time is coming because he's going to continue to 566 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 3: get targeted when Alexander's on the other side. It's only 567 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 3: a matter of time if he stays healthy, that he's 568 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 3: going to get his pick. There's athleticism inside linebacker Eric 569 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 3: Eric Wilson excuse me, already has an interception and you're 570 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 3: seeing right now at Devonte Why at the monster that 571 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 3: this guy's becoming up front. The Packers can do it. 572 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 3: They can take the ball away at every single level. 573 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 3: How quickly can you do that and can you find 574 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 3: that game changing play like they have in these last 575 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 3: two wins. 576 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's to me. I mean what I've seen 577 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: so far of the of the Jeff Hafley defense, and 578 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: the fans have asked me an insider inbox. They asked 579 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: me in the live blog like okay, so what sort 580 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 2: of like what's the identity of this defense, And it 581 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: feels to me like it's the it's it's a defense 582 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: that is hunting for the big game changing play. It's 583 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: hard to play defense in this league. Offenses are good, 584 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: the rules are geared against you. Defensively. You're going to 585 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: give up first downs, you're going to give up plays, 586 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: you're going to give up yards in a big spot. 587 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: Can you can you make the play that changes things? 588 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: And and I think that's what you know, with with 589 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 2: all the vision based and you know, and with pressure 590 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: to get after the quarterback and the emphasis. I mean, 591 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: we heard we heard from Jeff Haffley after the Brazil 592 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: game against the Eagles that when they went back and 593 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: watched the film, they were showing the players, Hey, here 594 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: was an opportunity where you could have swatted the ball 595 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: out of Jalen Hurts his hands, right. I mean, that's 596 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: what they are, that's what they are emphasizing. That's what 597 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: they are pushing with these guys. When you have a 598 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: chance to make a play on the ball, you've got 599 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: to make it. 600 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: And we'll see. 601 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: The Vikings have been pretty good at protecting the ball. 602 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: Darnold has put the ball on the ground a few times. 603 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: They have not the Vikings haven't lost any of those fumbles. 604 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: Aaron Jones has lost one fumble, I believe. Obviously, the 605 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: Vikings aren't three and zero by turning the ball over 606 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: a bunch. As you know the Tennessee Titans last week 607 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: and we talked about how much they had been turning 608 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: it over. So a completely different situation in that regard. 609 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: But that's what this Packers defense is after. They are 610 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: after the play that is going to shift the momentum 611 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: of the game, the play that is going to change 612 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: the landscape out there. So far, they've been able to 613 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: do it. They weren't able to necessarily take advantage of 614 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: it against the Eagles and that's why the Packers came 615 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: up short there. But they've been able to make those 616 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 2: plays in the last two games to chalk up two 617 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: wins with a backup. 618 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: Quarterback, and they did it against the Titans. 619 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, the turn turnovers and takeaways are reflected in one way, 620 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: but you look at the fact that they stop Will 621 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 3: Levis on that fourth and two attempted read. Yeah, early 622 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: third quarter, that's what turned into it doesn't go down 623 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 3: as a takeaway and ways off points, but that's what 624 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: created the opportunity for Emanuel Wilson to get that thirty 625 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 3: yard touchdown off the screen. You have to be able 626 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 3: to convert that, especially when you get the ball in 627 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 3: that part of the field. 628 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, quickly before we go, just looking around at the 629 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: other games in Week four in the NFL. To me, 630 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: other than Packers Vikings, which I think a lot of 631 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: people at the top of the list watching it, it's 632 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: a big time game. But to me, it's all it's 633 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: the it's the primetime games. This week Sunday Night Football, 634 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: Buffalo is at Baltimore. You have the Bills trying to 635 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: get to four and ah while the Ravens are trying 636 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: to avoid one and three. They're coming off of the 637 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: big win over the Cowboys. And then on Monday Night Football, 638 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: the three and oh Seattle Seahawks going into Ford Field 639 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: in Detroit to face the two and one Detroit Lions. 640 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: That's kind of a big early season game here in 641 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: the NFC as well. 642 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Seattle's doing what Seattle does. I mean, Kenneth Walker 643 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: misses these two games, they make a change there at 644 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 3: running back, they still keep the train on the tracks. 645 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 3: Gino Smith throws two interceptions last week. It doesn't matter. 646 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 3: They still are making plays. Just the fact it's like 647 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 3: Pete Carroll's gone, but it still feels like the same 648 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,719 Speaker 3: team with how they're with what they're doing out there 649 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: and how they're achieving this. Now you have them, you 650 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 3: have the Lions. The Lions are coming back off some adversity. 651 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: I mean, that is going to be a big, major matchup. 652 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: It's funny now with Detroit playing the way they're playing, 653 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: We're getting primetime games at ford Field now that we 654 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 3: never got for like my first. 655 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 1: Ten years on the beat. Absolutely, and you feel that shift. 656 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: Be interesting to see how tough a place Ford Field 657 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: becomes to play. Oh yeah, as they get these primetime 658 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: games in the crowd gets jazzed up. And I mean, 659 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: because they were talking last year in those two home 660 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: playoff games, they hadn't there hadn't been that kind of 661 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: intensity at Ford Field in a long long time, maybe 662 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: ever since the stadium opened in the early two thousand. 663 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 3: I would venture to guess because you and I were there. 664 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 3: I wasn't working here at the time, but you and 665 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 3: I were there for the Hail Mary game, and we 666 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: were there for the winner take all game in sixteen. Yeah, 667 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 3: I bet those two games are the closest they've come 668 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 3: to that, probably like because there were not a lot 669 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 3: of times when I watched those games on television, not 670 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 3: that you hear everything, but that there was that type 671 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 3: of fervor. But I remember specifically that sixteen game when 672 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, they might have a chance here to 673 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 3: work their way in, and the way the crowd responded 674 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 3: and just that is a community that is a fan 675 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: base that is just waiting for a reason to come 676 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: on glued. Oh yeah, and Dan Campbell has fostered all 677 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: of those emotions and it's led to some really exciting football. 678 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, that'll be interesting to see. Me personally, the 679 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 3: game I'm most looking forward to, although we will not 680 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 3: have any chance at watching it, I think at all, 681 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 3: is Washington and Arizona. Okay, Cliff Kingsbury's bringing that offense 682 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 3: back to Arizona, and we saw what happened last week 683 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: with Jaden Daniels, Jade and Daniel and now Kyler Murray 684 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 3: on the other side of things. Marvin Harrison Junior, I 685 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: think that that's going to be sixty minutes of just 686 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 3: absolute offense, especially if dan Quinn's defense doesn't stop anybody 687 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 3: again like what happened against the Bengals, But I mean, 688 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 3: I just think that is going to be a track meet. Yeah, 689 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 3: and seeing Jaden Daniels Man we talked about on Tuesday, 690 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 3: just how perfect he was. 691 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: I give him all the credit in the world. 692 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what, man, it didn't work all 693 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 3: great for Kingsbury as a head coach, But when it 694 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: comes to offensive football in that tree that he comes 695 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 3: off of, it's an exciting brand and it seems to 696 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: be something that young quarterbacks can really thrive in. I'm 697 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 3: very excited to see how that game plays out. 698 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And two teams that haven't been in the mix 699 00:33:55,080 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: for a while, and both of them Washington Arizona maybe 700 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: you know, they're they're on the verge here, one or 701 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: both of them might be, you know, a couple months 702 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: from now, we might be talking about one or both 703 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: of those teams being in the mix. 704 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 3: In divisions that are entirely up for grabs right now. Yep, 705 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 3: the NFC West, for as much as it always feels 706 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 3: like it is, the forty nine Ers show, all those 707 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 3: teams are constantly in play. 708 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the forty nine Ers have two losses early that 709 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 2: that that hasn't that hasn't happened all that all that often, 710 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 2: and and the uh and the Rams. 711 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 1: Uh. 712 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 2: You know, the Rams beat the forty nine ers last 713 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: week in a big division matchup there to avoid dropping 714 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: to zero to three. So and and the Packers are 715 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,959 Speaker 2: going to see the Rams heading out to LA next week. 716 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: So so yeah, a lot of a lot of really 717 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: intriguing stuff going on. 718 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 3: And by the way, the NFC East, other than the Giants, 719 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 3: it's all right there. Yeah, the Cowboys are struggling right now. Yeah, 720 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 3: Washington's in a very interesting position. It was incredible after 721 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 3: that game reading the mont of stories. I know, I 722 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: told you that the day after, but reading the amount 723 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 3: of stories of people in and people feeling like they 724 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 3: were literally just a quarterback away from really being able 725 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: to compete. 726 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: Monday night proved it. 727 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: And the Eagles, who are two and one, are going 728 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 2: to Tampa for a playoff rematch from last year where 729 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 2: their season ended. Last year, there's gonna be there's definitely 730 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,479 Speaker 2: gonna be a revenge kind of bounce back factor there 731 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: for Philadelphia going up against a Buccaneers team that lost 732 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: kind of a head scratcher last week when they were 733 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 2: looking like they would end up three to zero based 734 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: on their matchup, and they're sitting at two and one 735 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 2: trying to figure out what happened a week ago. 736 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching none of it. 737 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know we have work to do. 738 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: That's okay. 739 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: We get to watch I think will be the best 740 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 2: game absolutely entire week in Week four. With that, we'll 741 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: call it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 742 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 2: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 743 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: team and everything from Sunday's game at lambeau Field Packers 744 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 2: Vikings Aaron Jones, Justin Jefferson, maybe it's Jordan Love, maybe 745 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 2: it's Malik Willis. We will find out. We'll have it 746 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 2: all for you on Packers dot com. For Wes, I'm Mike. 747 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in. 748 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 3: Everybody. 749 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 2: We will see you next time.