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Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Tuesday, December second, the day that

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Speaker 1: finally the much talked about fifty cent produced Diddy documentary

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Speaker 1: hit Netflix. Hurry up and watch it because it might

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Speaker 1: be gone at any moment. And with that, welcome to

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Speaker 1: this episode of Amy and TJ. I say it might

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Speaker 1: be gone because did he wants it gone? They want

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Speaker 1: this thing. They've been talking about it, but they sent

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Speaker 1: a cease and desist to Netflix and said, don't put

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Speaker 1: this up. Netflix ripped up that cease and desist.

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Speaker 2: Apparently, yes, they didn't seem to be bothered at all

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Speaker 2: by it, because as promised at midnight Tuesday morning, twelve

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Speaker 2: oh one, it was available for all to see. Four parts.

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Speaker 2: They're sixty minutes each, and we've gotten through the first one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know what to say it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how seriously. I'm not of a legal mind

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Speaker 1: or anything like that. I don't imagine if they didn't

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Speaker 1: take it down. They can't be that fearful of it,

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Speaker 1: or it's worth the risk, because everybody's talking about this

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Speaker 1: soccer today. Everybody's been talking might for quite some time.

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Speaker 1: And I guess the centerpiece of the point of them

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Speaker 1: wanting to take it down, is that you all are

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Speaker 1: using footage that you all don't have the right to use,

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Speaker 1: that you actually even stole and robes. It is the

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Speaker 1: most fascinating part of at least the first episode that

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Speaker 1: we've seen.

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Speaker 2: That's right. The entire series starts out with that footage,

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Speaker 2: and so it starts out with a bang. Because you

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Speaker 2: are hearing and watching Sean Comb's six days before he's arrested.

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Speaker 2: You can see that he seems panicked, that he is

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Speaker 2: very emotionally fraught, and he is speaking urgently and even

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Speaker 2: maybe fiercely with his attorneys.

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, the attorney in particular his superstar attorney, Mark Agnafilo,

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Speaker 1: that put on a show by all accounts and get

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Speaker 1: this man from possible life in prison to I guess

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Speaker 1: the three years or four is it fifty fifty months

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Speaker 1: that he's ultimately going to do. But the documentary, it

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Speaker 1: got so much attention. There have been a lot quite frankly, hell,

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Speaker 1: TMZ has done a documentary. Everybody's done a documentary on Diddy.

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Speaker 1: It seems there are others you can find on streaming services.

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Speaker 1: But Rose it was because of fifty Cents involvement, and

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Speaker 1: he has been trolling Didty Since the first bottle of

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Speaker 1: baby oil got found before he was arrested, he's been

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Speaker 1: sending out social media whatnot. These two have been adversaries

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Speaker 1: kind of publicly in the rap game for a long time,

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Speaker 1: but his involvement had people's attention really into.

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Speaker 2: Correct because they question, and certainly we've now heard from

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Speaker 2: Sean Combs and his lawyer's question the motive and not

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Speaker 2: even question it, but directly accuse the motive here for

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Speaker 2: this documentary that it is a smear campaign, a hit

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Speaker 2: piece on Ditty, and that was the agenda from start

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Speaker 2: to finish, according to Ditty's camp.

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Speaker 1: On a side note here, we'll get back into this,

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Speaker 1: but did you feel that initially the first episode one

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Speaker 1: felt like a hit piece of it?

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Speaker 2: Did not? Didn't to me either, It did not feel

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Speaker 2: like a hit piece at all. In fact, look, you

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Speaker 2: have followed Sean Combe's career from the beginning. I have not,

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Speaker 2: and so I was learning things that you already were

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Speaker 2: very familiar with. I actually was fascinated by it and

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Speaker 2: what led to what we all saw in court, the

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Speaker 2: spectacle that it was this past summer. I felt already

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Speaker 2: just with the first episode that I have a better

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Speaker 1: And I guess what they are saying. They have some

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Speaker 1: new or never before heard or seen interviews people sharing,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of it so far is a rehash

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Speaker 1: of a lot of what we do know about his

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Speaker 1: life and hearing from some people we're familiar with. But

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Speaker 1: there are some new interviews. But this is the Reckoning.

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Speaker 1: They called it Sean Combs. The Reckoning came out today,

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Speaker 1: produced by fifty Cent, directed by this woman's got some

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Speaker 1: great credentials, Alexandria Staple Doone. She is a documentary filmmaker

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Speaker 1: who has done some significant work over the years. This

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Speaker 1: is a four part series sixty minutes each, so it's

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Speaker 1: very digestible. But that's why it's a big deal, because

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Speaker 1: of fifteen, because of who else is in it robes

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Speaker 1: the Diddy statement. Look, I think it's been a part

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Speaker 1: from the very beginning of the trial, didn't he or

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Speaker 1: I think got in trouble during the trial because I

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Speaker 1: found out his kids he was directing his kids to

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Speaker 2: Yes, for his birthday. He look and you see this

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Speaker 2: a little bit in this footage that they have where

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Speaker 2: he is very aware and this is brilliant on his

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Speaker 2: part because he gets it if you lose your PR campaign,

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Speaker 2: if you lose the battle for public opinion, you lose.

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Speaker 2: And so he was very aware of this. So he was,

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Speaker 2: according to people who were accusing him of staging, having

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Speaker 2: to make him look good or better in the public's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that makes sense, it does.

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Speaker 2: This makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I screamed out to you in the next room or something.

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Speaker 1: I said. He's smart because he said something in the

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Speaker 1: beginning in the back and forth with his lawyer about

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Speaker 1: his lawyer seemed relieved. Almost, Hey, it's September. You haven't

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Speaker 1: been indicted, right, and I'm watching all these news outlets

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Speaker 1: and and and everything. Nobody seems to be talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Diddy said, you're in the wrong place. It's nine billion

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Speaker 1: people on Earth, seven billion dollar Instagram, and not just

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Speaker 1: watching CNN. You're looking at the wrong audience and being

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Speaker 1: concerned about us winning or losing a PR battle. I

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Speaker 1: heard that, like, damn yeah, good point.

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Speaker 2: And he was right. And he's flat out told Mark Agnefilo,

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Speaker 2: we're losing, and he was angry and he wanted them.

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Speaker 2: He said, look, I'm paying you all. You figure it out.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and tell you what

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Speaker 2: to do. You all communicate better with one another, you

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Speaker 2: get a better strategy, and then you tell me what

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Speaker 1: So this that video at the beginning, and it goes

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Speaker 1: a full two minutes, and I'm not sure how much

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Speaker 1: but that two minutes, you're hooked, You're you're in. We

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Speaker 1: are talking about folks, that hotel where he was arrested.

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Speaker 1: He this video shows him in that hotel days before

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Speaker 1: incredible to see, yes, what was happening.

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Speaker 2: And look, I didn't realize this about him. And this

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Speaker 2: is a part of their issue because they said, hey,

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Speaker 2: Shaw Combs has been basically chronicling his life, videoing his

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Speaker 2: life since he was nineteen. He's always had a plan

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Speaker 2: so there were always cameras following him. So that was

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Speaker 2: what was so interesting to me. At a one of

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Speaker 2: I was taken by the fact that the videographer whoever

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Speaker 2: room window you could see police officers on rooftops seemingly

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Speaker 2: monitoring gulps to make sure they knew where he was

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Speaker 2: coming and going. I did not realize that he had

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Speaker 1: First two minutes, I'm blown away. There's a moment where

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Speaker 1: him as he's talking about just a desperation, desperation like

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Speaker 1: this is bullshit, is what he said. I gotta deal

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Speaker 2: Going on, Yes, and so we get to actually it's

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Speaker 2: almost as if you were there you wondered what it

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Speaker 2: You feel like you're along the ride with him in

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Speaker 2: those moments leading up to his arrest, and you feel

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Speaker 2: his deep concern his I felt like he was almost panicked. Look,

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Speaker 2: he's a cool cucumber, you can see that, but there

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Speaker 2: was this bubbling panic that was there that you could

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Speaker 2: see and feel and witness as you saw him go

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Speaker 2: about his day and yet still stopping to take selfies

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Speaker 2: with folks who were all trying to get their picture

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Speaker 2: with him, and he was actually very accommodating.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, you're still friendly, smiling and everything.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder where those pictures ended up. You know,

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Speaker 1: those guys had no idea.

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Speaker 2: I thought about that. They couldn't imagine. They couldn't have

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Speaker 2: known at the time that they were getting one of

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Speaker 2: the last selfies ever of Diddy before he was ultimately

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Speaker 2: arrested and put away for years and years and years.

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Speaker 1: Last possible selfies for you careers that are possible with Diddy.

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Speaker 1: They got them and had no idea they did. His

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Speaker 1: rep put out a statement today talking about that particular footage.

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Speaker 1: So that's the question. Robes. This is his personal videographer

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Speaker 1: in that hotel room with him, how in the hell

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Speaker 1: does Netflix get the rights to that video? Who owns it?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the question. The logical thing I mean in

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Speaker 2: the place I jump to is that the videographer ended

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Speaker 2: up saying this is mine, these are my this is

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Speaker 2: it's my footage to then sell or give to whomever

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Speaker 2: I want. But I don't know what the legality behind

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Speaker 2: all of that is. Obviously, Netflix's lawyers and Fiddy Sens

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Speaker 2: or secure the rights to that video.

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Speaker 1: Or is worth the risk or it was worth the risk?

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Speaker 2: But what it be worth the risk?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. How much can you get sued for?

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Speaker 1: What is the risk hourses reward with this thing that

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Speaker 1: everybody is talking about right now and watching. How many

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Speaker 1: streams are worth it, how many new subscriptions are worth it?

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Speaker 1: I do not know, but maybe they made some kind

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Speaker 1: of balance. Any photographer, anybody who's had experience with this.

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Speaker 1: You hire a photographer, Yes, they're taking your pictures, but

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Speaker 1: the pictures are still theirs. They own the rights to

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Speaker 1: them unless you buy those rights. I can't imagine that

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Speaker 1: Diddy having this person in his hotel room has not

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Speaker 1: already arranged a deal that all of that stuff is his.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he hadn't paid him yet. Maybe he had plans

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Speaker 2: to do it, and then he got arrested and it

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Speaker 2: fell through the cracks and he didn't think to compensate

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Speaker 2: the videographer and someone else did.

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Speaker 1: So it's fascinating. We're going back and forth. If you

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Speaker 1: give a scenario, now I'm giving one. Now I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: of another one. You'll think like, oh, maybe this, maybe this.

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Speaker 1: You're right. I have no idea how this could have

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Speaker 1: gone down. But they sent out a message to everybody

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Speaker 1: letting them know that they didn't agree with what Netflix

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Speaker 1: was doing. They called it a shameful hit piece. They

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Speaker 1: said this stolen footage was never authorized for release. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we go on here, I'll move down here, they said, Netflix,

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Speaker 1: here it is. I guess this is what I was referencing, Robes.

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Speaker 1: Netflix is plainly desperate to sensationalize every minute of mister

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Speaker 1: Colem's life without regard for truth, in order to capitalize

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Speaker 1: on a never ending media frenzy. I mean, there's probably

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Speaker 1: some truth in that statement. Yes, it's probably a lot

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Speaker 2: Yes, And they went on to say if Netflix cared

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Speaker 2: about truth or about mister Combe's legal rights, it would

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Speaker 1: Know what, I don't know. I've seen a lot of documentaries.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, that's it. That's what I'm I mean,

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Speaker 1: But he was talented enough to make it to change music.

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Speaker 2: Talking to his lawyers they have which seems like a

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Speaker 2: to keep the filmmaker's identity confidential. That's the videographer.

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Speaker 1: Who else is the film? Right? It has to be

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Speaker 1: so did he knows who it is? There was one

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Speaker 1: other guy in the room. They know who it is. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: if did he seize that footage, he knows it got

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Speaker 1: from that videographer's hand to where and how? Or did

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Speaker 1: it was all this stuff in Diddy's possession. Did he

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Speaker 1: have this stuff and in some kind of way somebody

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Speaker 1: stole it and it got out? Either way, did he

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Speaker 1: didn't authorize it? Who?

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Speaker 2: She goes on to say, one thing about Sean Combs

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Speaker 2: is that he's always filming himself and it's been an

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Speaker 2: obsession throughout the decades. We also reached out to Shawn

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Speaker 2: Comb's legal team for an interview and comment multiple times,

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Speaker 2: but did not hear back.

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Speaker 1: Just wait, he's probably he'll probably get around to it.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand that either. She kind of made a

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Speaker 2: She kind of trashed him. She was kind of saying

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Speaker 2: his own ego, his own hubris his own need to

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Speaker 2: document everything about his life is what got us this

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Speaker 2: footage in the first place, so it kind of was

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Speaker 2: like blaming him for the fact that they have this

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Speaker 2: footage to begin with.

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Speaker 1: How soon before you want to do episode two?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think as soon as we watch the second

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Speaker 2: episode if they're I mean, look, I don't know. To

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Speaker 2: your point, I'll be learning things probably every minute. I'll

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Speaker 2: be curious to see what you if you learn anything

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Speaker 2: beyond what you already have heard or seen.

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Speaker 1: Well, folks, check it out. We were joking at the

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Speaker 1: top kinda that you should probably go ahead and watch

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Speaker 1: it before it comes down, But as of now that

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Speaker 1: thing is up. There's no indication, no word from Netflix

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Speaker 1: that they're even giving us a thought about not leaving

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Speaker 1: it up on their streaming service. So check it out, folks.

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Speaker 1: We always appreciate you spending some time with us. Swimmer.

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Speaker 1: Dear Amy Robot, I'm TJ. Holmes will talk to y'all

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