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Speaker 1: by as is customary on Tuesday. Good to have you in.

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Speaker 1: So we have officially entered the silly season. We're about

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Speaker 1: a month out from the NFL Draft, and one of

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Speaker 1: the more popular personalities at the Other Place came out

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Speaker 1: yesterday and a lot of the media just you can

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Speaker 1: just reel them right in.

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Speaker 2: Ty Simpson.

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Speaker 1: Is better than Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 2: He should be going number one to the Raiders. The

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Speaker 2: boy all right.

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Speaker 1: Ty Simpson had fifteen college starts, and the more film

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinators got on him, the worse he got. Fernando

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Speaker 1: Mendoza had thirty five college starts. And the more film

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Speaker 1: people got on him, the better he got. So we're

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Speaker 1: one month away, there's been no football since the end

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Speaker 1: of the season. It's time to nitpick the number one pick.

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Speaker 1: At no time during the season, late in the season,

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Speaker 1: when they were both playing good teams, nobody thought Ty

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Speaker 1: Simpson is better than Fernando Mendoza. What we thought is

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Speaker 1: what the hell happened to this guy? He was pretty

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Speaker 1: good early. If you go to their last six starts

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Speaker 1: between the two teams, completed almost seventy five percent of

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Speaker 1: his throws, and that includes that Ohio State defense, that

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Speaker 1: Miami defense. Ty Simpson's last six games with Klin de

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Speaker 1: Boor an excellent offensive coach, with the elite wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: he barely completed sixty percent of his throw sevent TD's

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Speaker 1: four picks. So I don't even think Mendoza is a

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Speaker 1: hard evaluation. Think combine Matt Ryan if he was bigger, stronger,

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Speaker 1: and some Daniel Jones. Now he's bigger, stronger, with a

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Speaker 1: much more accurate than Daniel Jones. Think of Andrew Luck

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Speaker 1: difficult to comp I think there are quarterbacks coming out

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Speaker 1: of college did are really difficult evaluations. Dak Prescott, there's

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Speaker 1: a reason he went in the fourth round. His mechanics

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Speaker 1: ball placement was very streaky. That was a hard evaluation.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, even his college coach at North Carolina State

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Speaker 1: huge offensive line.

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Speaker 2: You're like, hey, you run around a lot loud.

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Speaker 1: Off this really works well. He ended up being really

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Speaker 1: got some help. Those were hard quarterback evaluations, really hard.

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Speaker 1: and like Justin Herbert, he can be a little stiff

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Speaker 3: fifteen starts, man, it is, It's real. We've talked about

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Speaker 3: I put him at thirteen in this mock draft as

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Speaker 3: of right now, I don't think that that's gonna happen,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he'll go in the first round. You know,

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Speaker 1: is ready to play, Okay, Well, I mean I can

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Speaker 1: go back on vacation. If you want Laker fans, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I laughed. You were awful defensively, you couldn't beat any

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Speaker 1: good teams. I leave and you go five and zero

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Speaker 1: against good teams and your defense you look like the

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Speaker 1: bad boy Pistons. I come back on vacation and a

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Speaker 1: G leaguer Danas Jenkins had a career high thirty on

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Speaker 1: couldn't stop him. So what does it mean they lose

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Speaker 2: Not that much?

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Speaker 1: But what does the eight game regular season late season

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Speaker 2: Mean nine games? Uh, not that much.

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Speaker 1: And that's the truth. Somewhere in between. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: winning streaks. Milwaukee had an eight game winning streak end

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Speaker 1: of last year, bounced first round. Lakers had an eight

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Speaker 1: teams kind of know their seeds, they know what they are,

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Speaker 2: It's one of those things.

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Speaker 1: So you've got you've got tanking, The good teams are

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Speaker 1: So you got to be very careful. Bucks and Lakers

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Speaker 1: I will say this though, that Detroit gave you a

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Speaker 1: little bit of blueprint, a little bit of a blueprint

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Speaker 1: on what gives the Lake trouble. Pistons the last two

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Speaker 1: the Pistons are physical and play ugly basketball and the

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Speaker 1: Lakers are pretty. The Lakers play a beautiful half court.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers and Pistons, i could argue, are the opposites.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers are brilliant in the half court offense, aesthetically

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Speaker 1: Detroit's the opposite. Outside of Kate Cunningham, and he didn't

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Speaker 1: play last night. They're tough and rugged and physical, and

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Speaker 1: they're a nightmare in the half court.

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Speaker 2: They're bad.

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Speaker 1: They can't shoot. Last night they shot forty three percent

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Speaker 1: the opposite. If you asked God, what could the Pistons

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Speaker 1: really need, you'd say a little bit more like the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: And if yes, what could the Lakers use? It'd be

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Speaker 1: a little bit more of the Pistons. But they gave

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Speaker 1: him a brute blueprint on how to beat the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Why what did they do last night? They hunted down

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Speaker 1: Luca Piston players and I'm not talking great offensive players.

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Speaker 1: Pistons players shot sixty percent if Luca guarded them, and Jenkins,

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Speaker 1: the g leaguer shot one hundred percent when Luca guarded

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Speaker 1: of a blueprint. We've said losing to the Pistons doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean much. The nine game winning streak doesn't really mean

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Speaker 1: that much. Late regular season NBA winning streaks. The Spurs

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Speaker 2: That is great.

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Speaker 1: That is a great basketball team that this morning, I

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Speaker 1: would take San Antonio to win the finals. That's a

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Speaker 1: great team. Twenty two to twenty four. That was like

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Speaker 1: That's not so losing didn't mean much last night, the

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Speaker 1: nine gamer.

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Speaker 2: Take a deep breath. Here's JJ reddicaff.

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Speaker 4: I believe that we're a good basketball team. I thought

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Speaker 4: we could be a good basketball team the entire season.

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Speaker 4: We saw flashes of it, we saw short stretches of it.

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Speaker 4: But we're a good basketball team, and I think we

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Speaker 4: that stuff. It is remarkable to me, and I'm not

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Speaker 4: an excuse, but our winning streak is also coincided with.

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Speaker 2: Us being healthy. We need to finish the.

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Speaker 4: Season strong, but we also need to finish the season healthy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and you know, Lebron's older, and Austin Reeves feels

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Speaker 2: Didn't play, and Ruey didn't play.

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Speaker 1: Last night, but either in Kid Cunningham and the Lakers

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Speaker 1: could not stop a G leaguer.

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Speaker 2: So take a deep breath.

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Speaker 1: You know, some teams are just built more ruggedly, just

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Speaker 1: like some people can move to Chicago and it doesn't

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Speaker 1: bother them. Other people have to live near a warm beach.

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Speaker 1: So my take is everything's going to be okay. But

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Speaker 1: what the Pistons do is not what the Lakers like

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Speaker 1: to face four to zero against them. They just ugly

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Speaker 1: up the game. They push you around, they hang on you.

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Speaker 1: Detroit is inartistic. But by the way, also the Knicks

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Speaker 1: are a very pretty offensive team with Jalen Brunson and

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Speaker 1: Kat The Pistons have had success this year against the Knicks,

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Speaker 1: another team that can play a little bit of finesse basketball.

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Speaker 1: So Detroit gives you a little bit of blueprint of

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Speaker 1: the ugly it up that the Lakers don't like that

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Speaker 1: and the Warriors were great, they could play ugly basketball too.

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Speaker 1: When you had Draymond Green and Andre Iguidala, the Warriors

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Speaker 1: were beautiful, but they can get ugly really fast. That's

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Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan's Bulls Pippin beautiful offensively, but Phil Jackson

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Speaker 1: and ugly too. Those are the truly great teams. The

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Speaker 1: Lakers have a style they have to play. The Pistons

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Speaker 1: have a style they have to play. That's why neither

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Speaker 1: one's gonna win the championship. But they're both very good

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Speaker 1: at what they do, really good.

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Speaker 5: Lakers definitely not winning the championship. You're sure about that? Interesting.

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Speaker 5: I almost did. Hey, long road trip. I'll give you this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the line is, but the Lakers

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Speaker 1: Just because JSN got paid, don't tell me that I

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Speaker 2: That's next.

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Speaker 8: the show. I'm here to ask you please don't listen

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Speaker 1: What the.

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Speaker 2: Get him?

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Speaker 9: Fool?

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Speaker 1: He's still moving, So just because you pay something for

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Speaker 1: real estate. And that's how I feel about the new

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Speaker 2: Is going a long term deal. They're not the same player.

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Speaker 1: Productivity with JSN, route tree, commitment, EQ, reliability A plus

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Speaker 2: I want what is?

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Speaker 10: If you're gonna pay a guy, and if you're gonna

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Speaker 10: his position, one hundred percent you're talking about the elite

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Speaker 10: talking about is this guy gonna change? What's he gonna

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Speaker 10: Ever in terms of what he's done at his age

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Speaker 1: To me, I don't care what JSN makes. Pickens is

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Speaker 5: This is the herd Line News.

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Speaker 2: I let's start with the end.

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Speaker 5: Yesterday we talked about the Celtics losing a bad one

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Speaker 5: to the Chimberwolves. The Lakers lost a bad one last night, Colin.

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Speaker 5: The Houston Rockets lost a really bad one last night.

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Speaker 5: They got an unbelievable game from kat who had forty

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Speaker 11: We respect the game and or the opponent. And the

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Speaker 11: Flavor of soft as hell is nothing, and then the

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Speaker 5: Listen, that's a frustrated coach, Colin. The Rockets are going

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Speaker 5: two to your Chicago Bulls. I'm surprised you were not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can watch it on TV.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't think we think right now, San

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Speaker 1: I mean, Durant is remarkable and he's on a little

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Speaker 1: I think everybody knows it. Limitations.

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Speaker 9: All right.

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Speaker 5: Let's move to the NFL, where the Niners and Trent

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Speaker 5: Williams are attempting to progress on a contract. Not looking great,

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Speaker 5: forty seven million after the team declined to exercise his

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Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan remains confident, though a deal will get done.

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Speaker 5: Any updates on the tread Williams situation at all.

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Speaker 9: No updates for me.

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Speaker 5: I actually stay pretty much out of that.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully they'll get that done.

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Speaker 1: We love trying too much, and you know, eventually.

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Speaker 4: That'll work out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's basically a no comment. Get me out of here.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, listen, Tred Williams is a veteran, you know,

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Speaker 5: You love to get that. Nobody throws in adjectives at

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Speaker 5: no quarterback can survive without their left tackle. The Niners

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Speaker 1: Well, he was the you know, I mean, Trent was

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Speaker 5: The final story is, we've done a good job avoiding

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Speaker 5: this guy, Aaron Rodgers Colin, but when Mike McCarthy and

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Speaker 2: It'd be a great story.

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Speaker 9: I don't know, and I would love to tell everybody

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Speaker 1: Yeah, March April and May is over the last three

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Speaker 2: And so I'm kind of done playing it. I did.

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo did that. I was told one year in San

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Speaker 1: used to seeing you in the off season. But Aaron

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Speaker 1: does this, that's an it's a right of passage. It's

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Speaker 1: what he does.

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Speaker 5: So let me ask, why do you think he does

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Speaker 5: this for the attention?

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00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 2: No, I think I've got he's actually thinking.

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Speaker 5: Look, I don't know. Let me take three months and

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00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 5: figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Aaron's you know, we talked about Kevin Durant yesterday that

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Speaker 1: I kind of appreciate that he's a different cat. There's

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Speaker 1: there's more than one way to be a great player. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's more than one personality to be a quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: Aaron's not. He didn't have the season intensity obsessiveness of Brady.

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00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the end season intensity, uh kind of

446
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: rigidity of Peyton Manning where he's just like.

447
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: Saturdays, I want to practice.

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00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: Aaron's kind of his own guy, super talented, does his

449
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Speaker 1: own thing. I'm comfortable with it because everybody in the

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Speaker 1: world at this point, if you're struggling with Aaron sort

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Speaker 1: of m o, that's your problem. He's totally upfront about it.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you guys in June.

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Speaker 5: Interesting, So maybe in August, I'm gonna pull a stunt

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Speaker 5: like this. I'm just gonna start ghosting you. And you

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Speaker 5: know you're cool with it. You're cool with Rogers. I'll

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Speaker 5: just keep you like, who's gonna be here, Who's gonna

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Speaker 5: be here.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna try see it works out.

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Speaker 5: You got a Will Howard waiting in the wings.

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Speaker 2: J Mack with the news.

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Speaker 6: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 6: herd line.

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Speaker 1: So I think this is uh, this is interesting. So

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Speaker 1: you know you everybody knows I was tough on Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: but I've said he's a.

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Speaker 2: Very nice guy.

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00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: There was the incident in Manhattan Beach. He was with

468
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Speaker 1: his wife and there was a really strange incident, and

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00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: he was a really nice guy. I think I think

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00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: he's a really nice guy. I thought he was too

471
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: cocky coming out of college. I told you I thought

472
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: Sam Donald was better. I think we all know today

473
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: Sam Donald's really good. So is Baker but we forget this.

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00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: Even at quarterback, it's a value proposition.

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00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 2: Okay.

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00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: The last four highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL four

477
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: straight years have missed the playoffs. Okay, So I saw

478
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: a story today is Baker is due a new contract.

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00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 2: Okay.

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00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: What makes Baker so appealing now is not his size

481
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: he's six' to, one or his, athleticism or his resume

482
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: one playoff. Win what Makes Baker mayfield appealing is thirty

483
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: three million dollars for a above AVERAGE nfl.

484
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: Quarterback that's.

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00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: Appealing Baker mayfield at forty eight is not appealing to.

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Speaker 1: ME i give me a six pack of Diet cope

487
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: for five, bucks that's. Appealing you charge me twenty. Eight

488
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: i'm buying a bottle Of. Prosecco, OKAY i thirty three

489
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: million For, baker that IS i think that is one

490
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: of the better deals in the. League Sam darnold for

491
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: thirty five maybe the best deal in the league BECAUSE

492
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: i think he's a, bigger, stronger more Athletic. Baker but

493
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: you start talking new, CONTRACT i mean, it's you, know

494
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: five dollars foot long at. SUBWAY i had a lot

495
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: of those thirteen. Dollars i'll pass, Right so we think

496
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: you got to get value on everybody except the. Quarterback,

497
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: No Josh allen at sixty million has No pro bowlers on,

498
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: defense And mahomes near sixty million has no run, game

499
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 1: and they're getting really, old and they had to get

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00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: rid Of trent. McDuffie so you, Know Baker mayfield last

501
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: year he was not, bad but he's a little coordinator.

502
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: Dependent Josh allen's good regardless of. Coordinator mahomes is good

503
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: regardless of. COORDINATOR i Think Justin herbert is. Good Joe

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00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: burrow is good regardless of. Coordinator Baker mayfield was much

505
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: better With Liam cohen And Dave canalis than last. Year

506
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: he's a little quarter coordinator. Reliant now we've said this

507
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: About Nick. Sirianni nick, said AND i don't like this at.

508
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: All when a head coach is coordinator, dependent get a

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00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: new head. Coach i'm not gonna you don't have to

510
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: get rid of your. QUARTERBACK i Think Jalen hurts is another.

511
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: Guy Jalen hurts is very reliant on who's the. Coordinator

512
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: he's not an all time talent, either As. Baker baker

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Speaker 1: With Liam cohen is a. Baller baker last year tenth

514
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: in passing. Yards you, know had a handful of game winning.

515
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: DRIVES i like that he's got a good chip on his.

516
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: Shoulder he's good late in. Games but you know the

517
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: Whole Baker Robert mays From The athletic was on our

518
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: show recently talking about a New baker.

519
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 12: Deal let's go back like two or three years to

520
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 12: When Baker mayfield was just out there on the. Street

521
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 12: Baker mayfield signed a one, year four million dollar deal

522
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 12: to be the buck starting. Quarterback and then when he,

523
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 12: succeeds you see it start to creep.

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Speaker 9: Up all.

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Speaker 12: Right donald's ten, Million Daniel jones is fifteen, Million Justin

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00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 12: fields is now twenty. Million and so the idea that

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00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 12: you could have Gotten baker for four million bucks three years,

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Speaker 12: ago and Now Malik willis is going to make thirty

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Speaker 12: million dollars a year in free.

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00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: Agency it just shows you how fast things.

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Speaker 1: Change, yeah AND i AND i say, this AND i

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00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: Love Sam. Donald i'm comfortable With Sam donald at forty five.

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00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 1: Million i'm not comfortable at fifty. FIVE i Think Sam

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00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: i'm forty, three forty. Four i'm comfortable With Sam baker thirty,

535
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: six thirty. Seven i'm, Comfortable but it's a value proposition

536
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: with all these guys that aren't Named Josh Allen herbert

537
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: Or Patrick. Mahomes the appealing part Of baker is not

538
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: the size and the mobility or the. Resume that's Not

539
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: it is that he's a good. Player and when you

540
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: get him for thirty, THREE i can have two good

541
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: corners and two good tight ends and the interior.

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00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: LINE i can pay for that. Too that's the.

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Speaker 6: Difference be sure to catch live editions Of The herd

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Speaker 6: weekdays and Noon easter not a Em Pacific.

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00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 5: Saturday, Night It's Baseball night On. Fox catch RAINING Mvp

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00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 5: Aaron judge as he leads The yankees against The, giants

547
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 5: Or Bobby Witt junior and The royals Tickled Ronald Acunya

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00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 5: junior in the. Braves Baseball night In america Returns saturday

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Speaker 5: at Seven eastern On. Fox check local listings for the

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00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 5: game in your.

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00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: Area, yeah The athletic came out with their preseason power,

552
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: rankings and, yes The dodge one and The yankees are,

553
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: two but The mariners are. THIRD a team From canada is,

554
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: seventh The brewers are, tenth oriel small Market baltimore is.

555
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: Twelve Kansas city. Thirteen so, yes big brands in payroll.

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00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 1: Matter money, matters of, course but it also illustrates that

557
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: front offices do as. Well The mariners have half the

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00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: payroll of The, mets and they were a much better

559
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: team last, year and my guess is The mariners will

560
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: be a much better team this.

561
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: Year so it's a little Like Silicon.

562
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Speaker 1: Valley, Yes navidia And meta And apple And google eat

563
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: up a lot of the, competition but there's a lot

564
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: of small companies eating in The Bay area as. Well

565
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: here is the truth about. Baseball you've got to spend. Enough,

566
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: okay you can't do A. PIRATES i look this. Morning

567
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: pirates spent one hundred and eight Million marlin's eighty Six

568
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: White sox ninety. One you got to spend. Enough and

569
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: that line he used To baseball used to have something

570
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: called The mendoza. LINE i grew up A mariners. Fan

571
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: Mario mendoza hit under two. Hundred he had a great.

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00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: Glove The mendoza, Line, well there's sort of a reasonable

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00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: commitment line with. Payroll and if you get to about

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00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: one fifty one, FIFTY i mean The braves won The

575
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: World series four years, ago five years ago tenth biggest,

576
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: payroll but the small Market brewers spent one hundred and

577
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: forty three, million The guardians one hundred and thirty, Million

578
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: tigers one eighty, Eight seattle one ninety. Four you got

579
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: to spend and they're all billionaires who own this. Team

580
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: all these teams are owned by. Billionaires so you, know

581
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: people talk, about well the. Payroll nobody questions if payroll.

582
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: Matters but front offices like The mariners have an excellent front.

583
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: Office The tigers finally have their act together, upstairs and

584
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 1: you got to just spend. Enough you got to get

585
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: into one hundred and sixty five million. Dollars they'reabouts and

586
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: all these, teams The a's now the new stadium will

587
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 1: be able to spend. That so it's you, KNOW i

588
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: know you're all freaking. Out, yes The dodgers are the.

589
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: Best for the, Record nobody complained about dynasties when The

590
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: yankees Had jeter And. Pisada, well those guys came from their.

591
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: System well they went and paid for a. Rod they

592
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: paid for a lot of big. Guns they can go

593
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 1: back to the catfish Hunter Reggie jackson. Days The yankees

594
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: have always stepped up and paid for the big big.

595
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: Guns here's A. J perzinski on some of the contenders

596
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: to go up against The dodgers this.

597
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 7: Year if they're, pitching they figure out, pitching The mets

598
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 7: could be. Good The cubs could be good if they

599
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 7: again they're, pitching they get steal back and they run

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00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 7: Steel emanaga tie on that group out. There The phillies

601
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 7: are always going to be The. Phillies the nationally can

602
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 7: just better to me than The American league is The

603
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 7: Blue jays game will run for their. Money they could do.

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00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 7: IT i think The Red, sox with their, pitching would be.

605
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 7: Tough they find enough. Offense The. Yankees you, know everyone's

606
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 7: down on The. Yankees they're pretty. Good last year they

607
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 7: won ninety four. Games so there's challengers for The. Dodgers

608
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 7: it just.

609
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: Comes down to.

610
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 7: Health if they're, healthy no one's gonna beat.

611
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: Them same thing we used to say about the late Nineties.

612
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: Yankees if they're, healthy nobody's probably gonna beat. Them So

613
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: wemby last Night spurs are the hottest team in the.

614
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: League they're the best team in the league right.

615
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: Now and you Know wemby last night put up twenty,

616
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: six fifteen and five blocks and they blew out The Miami,

617
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: heat and but WHAT i you, know one of the

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00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: THINGS i like About, wemby and we've said this, before

619
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: if you're if you're gonna be the face of the,

620
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: league you've got to want to be the face of the.

621
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: League you got to have the game and the aura

622
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: and the commitment to. Aunt edwards has the, game the.

623
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: Look he didn't want to be the face of the.

624
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: League Jason tatum's got a, game but he didn't have the.

625
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 1: Aura he's not a. Aggressive wemby's got. Everything and after

626
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: the game last night he talked about BEING. Mvp he's

627
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: going after.

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00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 2: IT i thought about.

629
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Speaker 5: IT i think right now.

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00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 12: There is a.

631
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 5: Debate you know that should be.

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00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: Even THOUGH i THINK i.

633
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 4: Should lead the, race And i'm trying to make sure

634
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 4: that until the end of the, season, listen no.

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00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: Debate so what's you got to watch the? Games you

636
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: can't just look at. Stats like years, Ago Darrell reevis

637
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: And Dion sanders were great, corners but they didn't always

638
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: lead THE nfl in interceptions because a lot of quarterbacks

639
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: would just not throw their. Way so it's like it's

640
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: almost like if you ever you ever go to a

641
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: club and the bouncers like six' SIX former nfl guy.

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00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: Two eighty he doesn't get in a lot. Of fights nobody.

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00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: Challenges Him.

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00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: That's wemby he LEADS the nba in blocks by, thirty

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00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: nine he would lead by one hundred and. Thirty nine

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00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: and if people. Challenged Him but wemby literally you can't

647
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: measure his greatness in stats because he changes the geometry of.

648
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: Your offense players won't even challenge. Him INSIDE and i

649
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: know it's an. Offensive league he's, Good offensively, lucas Great

650
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: but wemby's there's, an Argument and i'm not sure how

651
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: long they'll be. An argument he's not only the best

652
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: defensive player by a. Long shot now he may be the.

653
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: Best ever he may be moving into greatest defensive. Player ever,

654
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: and again Like A dion Sanders And ed reid Or A,

655
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: drell reeves a lot of quarterbacks, are like. Not interested

656
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: i'm just not throwing to that side of. The ball

657
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 1: the big, bouncer like. No thanks that guy never gets

658
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: in a lot. OF fights a bouncer's, five six one

659
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty probably gets.

660
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 11: In a lot.

661
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: OF fights a lot of people are gonna, challenge him

662
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: Right if kmack's. A bouncer he's gonna get a lot.

663
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: Of, Challengers okay but my Point with wemby is he

664
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: is so great defensively and very very. Good offensively He's

665
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: not Luca or sja, offensively consistently he is so GREAT

666
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: that i think it trumps everything in the way that

667
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: THE comp i would Use Is. Magic johnson magic was

668
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: a mediocre defender And couldn't he wouldn't even have a great.

669
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: Jump shot he had like a. Set shot he was

670
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 1: so brilliant. In transition i've never to, this day EVERY player,

671
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: Nba history i've never seen a player in transition that

672
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: was more Magical Than. Irvin, johnson again he changed, the

673
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: pace he changed. His team everybody was Great. With irvin

674
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: he would TAKE a c player make HIM a, B

675
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: PLAYER and I think I think wemby just changes the

676
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: way you have to. ATTACK them, i mean the only

677
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: thing that is even remotely close in terms of a

678
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: Comp Is. Chet holmgren he's. Not close, he's good but He's.

679
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: Not WEMBY so, I mean i was looking at This. Since,

680
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: february first, you know you get to that second half

681
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 1: OF the nba season, trade Deadline the spurs are first

682
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: and virtually everything win's, point, differential rebounds points, of, says blocks.

683
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: Net Rating, so wemby, they say is the greatest Prospect.

684
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: Since lebron but there Are things lebron could do because

685
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: of his physical genetic makeup that other players just.

686
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: Can't Do.

687
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: That's wemby there Are things Wemby does lebron. Can't do

688
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: and like a lot of it's. Hard work and nobody.

689
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: Disputes that there's a lot of tall people in. The

690
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: EARTH but, I mean i've said. This before when the

691
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: media comes out and you, hear this this is the greatest.

692
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: Prospect ever That Was, Bryce, harper well he's lived up.

693
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: To it That Was tiger woods in. His prime he

694
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: lived up. To it That Was, lebron james he lived up.

695
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: To It peyton manning was one of the great quarterback

696
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: football prospects of. All time he lived up. To it

697
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: wemby lives up. To it and we're seeing. THE beginning,

698
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 1: I mean wemby LEADS the nba in blocks by. Thirty

699
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: nine he's missed games and most teams just. Avoid him

700
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: they just the, calculus changes like now we're Just not

701
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: we're not going to attack.

702
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: The rim his offensive game can.

703
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: Be a, you know it can be a little incomes

704
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: if he's not hitting. His three sometimes he's a little.

705
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: Off offensively he's not. There yet BUT and i want To.

706
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: Ask nick right at the top and next hour is people, are, saying,

707
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: Well well lucas SHOULD, be Mvp and. Magic wasn't magic

708
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: wasn't a great defender either and WON the mvp.

709
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: Three TIMES but i think.

710
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: When you literally change how an aspect of a sport,

711
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: IS viewed I think wemby is so much better than.

712
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: Everybody defensively is that he if HE'S a b plus

713
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: offensive player TO an, a minus there is No other

714
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: he is the standard historically for how to.

715
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: Play defense he's. That great i'm, YOU know I saw Kareem.

716
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: Abdul jabbar in his prime had some, of this absolutely

717
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: had a lot, of this but he didn't move. This,

718
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: well uh, You know wemby's a whole different a whole.

719
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: Different ballgame so MY my Mvp is wemby probably DO

720
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: UH sg.

721
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: A, Two luca, i'm sorry he's a. Defensive liability.

722
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 9: I'm.

723
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: Sorry uh and now all the technicals drive. Me crazy

724
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: I'd put. Luca THIRD Wemby SGA luca I Go luca

725
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: wemby sc a similar.

726
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 5: All, right well by, the way SPEAKING of i have

727
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 5: never been, a BOUNCER but i did see this amazing

728
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 5: Movie With patrick Swayze, called roadhouse and he was a bouncer.

729
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 5: My size that Just wrecked.

730
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 2: Well, that everyone that's. That's, Hollywood no i'd think he's

731
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: based on. A Truth al.

732
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: Pacino's five six and. A half he's a tough guy. In,

733
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: movies okay.

734
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's be honest.

735
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 5: About that, but no your Point about wemby's a good One,

736
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 5: BECAUSE colin i ask you, right now who's the most

737
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 5: dominant player IN. The, nba Well.

738
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: It's wemby he's the.

739
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 5: Most dominant, So okay so if he's the most dominant And,

740
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 5: the spurs by, the way an, untold Story the spurs

741
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 5: tanking for him was. Absolute genius why do you see

742
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 5: ten Teams tanking now There's no wemby in, this draft

743
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 5: but seeing in three years you could go from the

744
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 5: bottom of the league to fifty some odd wins and

745
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 5: maybe win. The championship tanking, Works WELL so i love

746
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 5: the Tank. FOR wemby i think.

747
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: He's, Dominant yeah and the other thing is we're IN an.

748
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: Nba era This is i've said, this REPEATEDLY and i

749
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: think you. Have two You Can't adam silver's paralyzed. By

750
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: dynasties sometimes, They, happen yeah they're not happening now because

751
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: as Good as, jokich is HE'S not, i mean he's

752
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: a mediocre. Defensive player he's. Dominant offensively wemby is not

753
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: as Good as, jokich offensively but he's, so unique runs

754
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: the court, so well he's so. Dominant defensively there IS

755
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: a i would say better than fifty percent bet that

756
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: if we're going to have, a dynasty it's going To Be,

757
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: san antonio which for, the record Has Owned. Oklahoma city when,

758
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: they've played they are a matchup NIGHTMARE. For okc So

759
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: an okac really struggles to, match up that's all you need.

760
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: To know So because okac his, last YEAR historically okc

761
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: put up some numbers as the greatest defensive team of,

762
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: all time and they can't Solve the.

763
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: Wemby riddle like they just can't. Solve him so, you.

764
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: Know THAT'S why i don't waste too much time worrying.

765
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: About DYNASTIES the nfl doesn't. Want Dynasties the patriots had

766
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: one for, twenty years and the chiefs had one. For

767
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: six dynasties happened pour two next