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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, welcome. I feel fee, I really do, because

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Speaker 2: I know you're a Laker fans. I feel fee I do.

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Speaker 3: No, you know, good morning, good morning. I hope you

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Speaker 3: had a good week. Everyone, Glad to be here. You know.

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Speaker 3: So I'm watching that game last night and I am

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Speaker 3: a Lakers fan, and you know two game is a

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Speaker 3: very clear Denver is the better team, right, but there's

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Speaker 3: been glimmers of hope of the Lakers doing the right

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Speaker 3: thing right to win, to win a game, and it

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Speaker 3: just hasn't happened. Right. Game one, good, they got blitzed, Okay,

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Speaker 3: but Game two was a lot right up fourteen points.

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Speaker 3: I believe in the third quarter doing good things, and

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Speaker 3: you kind of just didn't close out that game. And

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Speaker 3: yesterday you watched the first half and you're, okay, Jamal

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Speaker 3: Murray had thirty points in the first half, All right,

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Speaker 3: if we can limit Jamal Murray. They're playing great defense

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Speaker 3: on Joker, and they're like doing the right game plan right,

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Speaker 3: and they're just not good enough. They're just some mu's

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Speaker 3: better than them. And I think there's a fan and

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Speaker 3: an analyst and someone who watches sports, like at some

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Speaker 3: point you just accept that the team is better than

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Speaker 3: the other team. And there's not like a fluke. It's

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Speaker 3: not like Denver's like luckily winning the games. Not the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: The Lakers are playing what they are. This is what

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Speaker 3: the Lakers are. They are imperfect from three, right, They

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Speaker 3: have stretches where they make a bunch and they can't

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Speaker 3: make any And last night was one example where you know,

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Speaker 3: the Lakers just could shoot well enough. This has been

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Speaker 3: achilles heel for them all season. They were ten of

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Speaker 3: thirty two from three. Denriver was seventeen to forty one.

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Speaker 3: Makes a big difference in an eleven point game. And

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Speaker 3: just like the Andy, the Nuggets are better than the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: It's just the way it is.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: And certainly approved it on the court this night. And

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Speaker 2: look give it with Jokis having a bad first half,

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Speaker 2: he came out and beat him in the second half.

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Speaker 2: But you know he hears the thing. You gotta have

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Speaker 2: a way. And I remember Bob Knight once said this

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Speaker 2: a long time ago, and I used to believe it,

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Speaker 2: and I used to talk to him a lot. He

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Speaker 2: liked me for some reason. I don't know why. He says.

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Speaker 2: You know, everybody talks about matchups, matchups. You know, sometimes

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Speaker 2: you can't have a matchup. Sometimes your guys don't match

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Speaker 2: up with the other team. But what he did say

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Speaker 2: to me one time, says, you take away what your

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Speaker 2: opponent does best. And what the Lakers couldn't do last

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Speaker 2: night was take away Jamal Murray. They tried that d

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Speaker 2: Angela Russell can't play defense. They had Murray backing up

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Speaker 2: on this guy and posting up in the guy. Vanderbilt

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Speaker 2: couldn't stop him. Shrewder couldn't stop him. You just gotta

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Speaker 2: wave the white flag, I guess, and say, look, you

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Speaker 2: can't stop the guy at least tonight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't. To me, that's not even as

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Speaker 3: big of a concern like someone either Joker or Murray's

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Speaker 3: Joker at twenty that the you know, you have Calwell

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Speaker 3: the guys that I think in the end hurt your

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Speaker 3: winning loss more than the two stars who got their

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Speaker 3: points like that, that's gonna happen, right, it's literally the

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Speaker 3: other players, especially and typically on the road those players

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Speaker 3: like you, it's the To me, it's the other guys.

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Speaker 2: Right that. I mean fifteen when did that go?

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Speaker 4: Like that?

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Speaker 3: To me is is is more why the Lakers lost.

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Speaker 3: And of course they couldn't make a shot either. They

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Speaker 3: just they they're just not good enough. And and it's

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Speaker 3: juggernaut and last year and I found this trap too

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Speaker 3: can get a shot whenever they want. Like that to

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Speaker 3: is yeah, the shots go in, it's great. But man,

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Speaker 3: they can get to the lane almost anytime they want.

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Speaker 3: With Murray and Jokers, they just andy they get they

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Speaker 3: good on defense. And I then you just tip your

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Speaker 3: cap to like they're fun to watch and they're not

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Speaker 3: a team that they're like Woogan Eastern Conference is like

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Speaker 3: a rock fight alf the time. Oh have to watch

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Speaker 3: this series. This is a fun like these guys are

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Speaker 3: playing good basketball. The Nuggets are a fun watch.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this, I mean you look offensively, the

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Speaker 2: the guy. I don't care who it is. It's like

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Speaker 2: and let him go. And every time he does that,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think, for one, is that it's physically

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Speaker 3: You're gonna get hacked and hit. Here's the deal, Eddy,

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Speaker 3: He's played sixty seven thousand minutes in his career. He's

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Speaker 3: thirty eight years old at some point in his twentieth season.

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Speaker 3: At some point we have to acknowledge that he's played

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Speaker 3: is starting to wear in his body. It doesn't make

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Speaker 3: he's played what not? He's playing nine what nine nine

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so conference finals he might he might just have

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Speaker 3: it's worn on him, and that's fine. It's it happens

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Speaker 3: to older players. They thought Anthony Davis, who has played

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Speaker 3: he was supposed to take over and he did it.

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Speaker 3: Twenty eight points last night and eighteen rebounds. Great game,

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Speaker 3: but they just didn't get enough from anyone else. You

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Speaker 3: they didn't have like that hot Chamora twenty seven point.

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Speaker 2: And why is he had thirteen off the bench? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he should start, I mean his ten side. He could

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Speaker 3: Playing thirty four minutes and someone who, you know, Vanderbilt

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Speaker 3: Russi had three points. It's not enough, right, Lannie Walker

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Speaker 3: a deeper bench. The guys that come off and shoot.

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Speaker 3: very well like they they're missing, could take over the game.

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Speaker 2: And look, I guess, I mean.

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Speaker 3: Ad doesn't I would I think doesn't enough like he

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this, so twenty three points on a

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Speaker 3: But but to me, like and he like that's okay.

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Speaker 3: To me, okay, it's okay. Like he's just he's not

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Speaker 3: what we're watching. I and just say like, yeah, Lebron

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Speaker 3: To me, I frame it as Jordan's Jordan is the

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Speaker 3: which I think is hard to dispute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why people even start that argument.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know they're different players, and people have

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Speaker 3: a have a hard time accepting Lebron. He's not the

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Speaker 2: He's more of a physical rebound there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's just like a different player. He's a

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Speaker 3: he's just different. He's just not He's a different type

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Speaker 3: all the discussion about woman Yama and how he's you know,

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Speaker 3: he's the best proxipect of all time. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Lebron was on our radar at fourteen ended up being

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Speaker 3: exceeded expectations, like he was exactly you Rarely do you

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Speaker 3: get in sports a young phenom like Lebron he ends

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Speaker 3: Like Tiger is one of those guys. Lebron is one

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Speaker 3: didn't work out that way. You know. Bryce Harper was

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Speaker 3: the pros. He's been good, probably ends up being a

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Speaker 3: Hall of Famer, right, But he's not only he's been

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Speaker 3: It's hard to be a child phenom and be this great,

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Speaker 3: and Lebron has done all that.

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Speaker 2: Done on the cover of Sports Illustrated in high school,

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Speaker 2: you know, And it happens every now and again, but

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Speaker 2: it never really happens so often where when that player

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Speaker 3: No, and think about last night too, if you're a

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Speaker 3: win those games. The really issue was Game one. You know,

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Speaker 3: Put to put Rudy in there. Yeah, or remove Russell,

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Speaker 3: I'm with you, and I like Darvin Ham. I think

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Speaker 3: It's just again, you need to never has so much doubt.

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Speaker 2: They can't let Bruce Brown score fifteen point shooting six

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Speaker 3: Why is there a night game? It's a Sunday. Can

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Speaker 3: They're both East Coast teams. What are we doing?

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Speaker 3: There's no baseball on Sundays for them. I take that back.

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Speaker 3: There's like there's some bays, there's some challenge team and

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Speaker 3: I did it same.

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Speaker 3: The thing about the NBA, though, especially good teams, is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Miami game against the Celtics, Frona and

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Speaker 2: I don't think age makes a difference. But the fact

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Speaker 2: that he's not calling a time out.

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Speaker 3: Well, the age, the age matters because of experience, right,

433
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Speaker 3: and he doesn't have much experience, and he was given

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Speaker 3: a job that he probably wasn't qualified for because they

435
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Speaker 3: were kind of in a pinch, right if you look

436
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Speaker 3: at it, you know what happened with their previous coach

437
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,399
Speaker 3: and kind of where they were to start the season.

438
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Speaker 3: They needed a coach, right, and then all and then

439
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,400
Speaker 3: all his assistants ended up getting other jobs. So he's

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Speaker 3: by himself most of the time. When you you have

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Speaker 3: a young coach in experienced coach, you hire assistant coaches

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Speaker 3: that know what they're doing right, and then they that's

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Speaker 3: an important it's important they did. And then they all

444
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Speaker 3: got hired by their places and left and they haven't

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Speaker 3: replaced those guys, and so you have a coach who

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Speaker 3: hasn't been in the spot before. And not only that,

447
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Speaker 3: his team is struggling, especially at the end of games,

448
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Speaker 3: and it's best player, which is not coach's fault, just

449
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Speaker 3: disappears in the fourth quarter. Jason Tatum has zero field

450
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Speaker 3: goals made in two fourth quarters and two home games

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Speaker 3: at Eastern Conference Final. I don't care if they put

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Speaker 3: up fifty points in Game seven against the Sixers. Congratulations, man,

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Speaker 3: like really great, great, but like you need to play

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Speaker 3: good all the time. Like if you want me a superstar,

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Speaker 3: you'd be considered one of the best players that I

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Speaker 3: need to see in the in the playoffs in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter. Again, it's a tough heats team, a tough

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Speaker 3: heat team. And I get it, you didn't take a

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Speaker 3: bunch of shots in Game one. I watched all that

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter via the other night, like you opportunities well

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Speaker 3: the line not only that he and by the way,

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Speaker 3: and he got those in the last minute of the game, right,

463
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Speaker 3: he did score it for eleven minutes the fourth quarter, turnovers,

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Speaker 3: you know, poor defense, and like, come on, like you're

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Speaker 3: you're the guy. I gotta see more than one game

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Speaker 3: against the Sixers after you played terribly the game before.

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Speaker 3: And it be fair, Ta didn't played great for three quarters,

468
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Speaker 3: the twenty nine points there in the fourth quarter, But

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Speaker 3: in those clutch moments, the heater are just so much better.

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Speaker 3: They're so much better in the moments that matter. I

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Speaker 3: hate saying that because I think in a playoff game,

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Speaker 3: every moment matters, right, But in the fourth quarter, when

473
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Speaker 3: when the game is on the line, when it's crunch time,

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Speaker 3: the heater just so much better.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to what you said about Jason Tatum.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're right, if you're going to be first

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Speaker 2: team All NBA All Star, if you're going to have

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Speaker 2: that thing on your chest that you're the man. And

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Speaker 2: he went off the other night and he said he's

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Speaker 2: one of the best players in the world. They see

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Speaker 2: on one of the best players on the planet. Prove it,

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Speaker 2: prove it. You know you're the man, do it? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't hear Jimmy Butler going off with his mouth

484
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Speaker 2: saying I'm the best on the man. He proves it

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Speaker 2: on the court. Yes, they give him the ball and

486
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Speaker 2: he gets it done.

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Speaker 3: He does. And so I'm a little upset with with

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Speaker 3: just Tatum in general. Just the lack of amun upset me.

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Speaker 3: I I should hate this out as some Wakers fan,

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Speaker 3: but I I just I gotta see more than the fourth.

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Speaker 3: You can't have two disappearing acts. But any of the

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Speaker 3: story here is it's Miami, right and the just they're

493
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Speaker 3: a pest man, right, and like he play a style

494
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Speaker 3: of ball where they're just they never faced and they're

495
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Speaker 3: just so mentally and physically tough that no matter what's happening,

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Speaker 3: they are going to come out on top.

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Speaker 2: And what guys, you've never heard of Duncan Robinson again,

498
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Speaker 2: Mark welcome.

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Speaker 3: You've heard of them, because you will Paul Sports. But

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Speaker 3: for the most part, you know, if you're a casual fan,

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Speaker 3: you've not heard these players, but Bam played well in

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Speaker 3: game two. Then Jimmy Butler. So we in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: you have scouter reports on players, right, and I'm an

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman and so some scout imports on defensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: We've had it over my career where don't poke the bear, right,

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Speaker 3: I'll give you a Helodi Nada Okay, former Organductor, my

507
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Speaker 3: teammate him of mine in college. Great guy Helodi is

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Speaker 3: an awesome dude, but you don't want to get him angry.

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Speaker 3: Like he's one of those guys where like if you

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Speaker 3: just like you just play your game account. You're trying

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Speaker 3: to block him, of course and not try to take

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Speaker 3: it easy on him, but like you don't you don't

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Speaker 3: talk to him after the play, you don't get his face,

514
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Speaker 3: you don't hit him late like you don't like you

515
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Speaker 3: don't go for his knees like you know, you just

516
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Speaker 3: kind of like you block him, but you don't upset

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Speaker 3: him because if you upset Hellodi, you're in for a

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Speaker 3: much tougher day, right like that like that was the

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Speaker 3: game point, like block HELOADI but don't do the extracurricular

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Speaker 3: things you might do to other guys. Because we can't

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Speaker 3: get him fired up now. And there are some other

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Speaker 3: guys Andy who that was a scouter report. For get

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Speaker 3: that guy angry, because if you get him angry, he

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Speaker 3: plays much worse. And there were guys we played where

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Speaker 3: we put a guy one time, one of our linemen,

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Speaker 3: newm and Andy. The game plan was every single play,

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Speaker 3: one person on the offensive line had to say a

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Speaker 3: mean word to this guy's face after every single play.

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Speaker 3: That was a game plan and it worked. I got

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Speaker 3: so angry huns game. But for Hellodi, you don't poke

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Speaker 3: the bear. You don't poke the bear.

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Speaker 2: We're continuing that. I want to talk to you about

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Speaker 2: that ore coming up next right here on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Dude, words really do make

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Speaker 2: a difference. That's live from the Tirack dot Com studios.

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Speaker 2: But first, Nick Cope with all your sports.

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Speaker 5: All right, Good morning guys. Yes, the Denver Nuggets went

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Speaker 5: away from the NBA Finals one nineteen to one to eight.

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Speaker 5: That final score over the Lakers in Los Angeles on

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Speaker 5: Saturday night. Nuggets have now won five straight playoff games

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Speaker 5: and this is the closest Denver has ever been to

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Speaker 5: the NBA Finals in their forty seven year franchise history,

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Speaker 5: and in the process with that win, last night also

544
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Speaker 5: handed the Lakers their first loss at home in the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: and it's also the first time LA has lost three

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Speaker 5: consecutive games since early February Eastern Conference Final Stanley Cup playoffs.

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Speaker 5: Matthew Kuchunk did it again. He scored the overtime winner

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Speaker 5: for the Panthers for the second straight game, and Florida

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Speaker 5: takes a two to zero series lead on the Hurricanes.

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Speaker 5: Two to one was a final score on Saturday. PGA

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Speaker 5: Championship brooks Keepko leads after three rounds. He is six

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Speaker 5: under for the tournament. Victor Hanflan and Corey Conners are

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Speaker 5: one shot back. He got Bryce in to Shambo, Scottie Scheffler,

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Speaker 5: Justin Rose, Roy McElroy all in the mix entering Sunday's

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Speaker 5: final round. Horse racing, National Treasure, trained by Bob Bafford,

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Speaker 5: won the Preakness Derby, champ Mage finished in third in boxing,

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Speaker 5: and Devin Haney retained the lightweight championship a unanimous decision

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Speaker 5: over Vassili Lomachenko. Some of the late scores. In baseball,

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Speaker 5: Red Sox have won their fourth in a row beating

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Speaker 5: the Panres four to two. Joey Gallo hit his fourth

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Speaker 5: homer in his last seven games. Twins defeated the Angels

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Speaker 5: six to two, Mariners took down the two team in

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Speaker 5: the NL East, that's the Braves seven to three. In

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Speaker 5: the final, Cardinals over the Dodgers six to five. Saint

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Speaker 5: Louis has rebounded after a slow start to the season.

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Speaker 5: They've now won seven of nine. Let's go back to

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Speaker 5: Jeff Schwartz and Andy Furman. Thank you see that now

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Speaker 5: and n de we go. Now, motivation is different for everyone.

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Speaker 5: We'll get that in just about a minute. This is

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Speaker 5: Fox Sports suddenly on Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz.

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Speaker 5: I mean here firmly speaking of that. We got to

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Speaker 5: eat my Schwartz in about eight minutes for now. But

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Speaker 5: let's get back about the wards factor.

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Speaker 2: Okay, because Jimmy Butler of the Heat said the exchange

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Speaker 2: with Grant Williams fueled him. I don't get it. First

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Speaker 2: of all, I was impressed that after that Grant Williams

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Speaker 2: drawing with him, Jimmy Butler just grinned and just went

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Speaker 2: down the court and nailed the three again.

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Speaker 3: So this is okay, there are just some guys who

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Speaker 3: play better angry, right. I was not one of those guys.

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Speaker 3: I need to kind of stay in my little lane.

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Speaker 3: Like if I got too angry or too up or

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Speaker 3: down that I just it wasn't good for it. I

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Speaker 3: kind of needed to stay like where I was at.

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Speaker 3: Got you know guys like Jimmy Butler, you know, you know,

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Speaker 3: Jordan Kobe, like these guys like that that play angry, right,

587
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 3: that play that played better when they're angry. I don't

588
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Speaker 3: know how they do it, but it's just who they are,

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Speaker 3: and they played better fired up. They played better angry.

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Speaker 3: Like I would, you know, I grew up Lakers. I

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Speaker 3: would never I mean I know Kobe talked as well,

592
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: but like firing up Kobe and me would be the

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Speaker 3: worst thing to do possible and tell me can't do something,

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Speaker 3: no chance, right, Like I was an athlete, I would

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Speaker 3: never do to Kobe. Just like again, there's the example

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Speaker 3: of Holoda, Like you just don't. You don't messle Holoda,

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Speaker 3: You just you block them. You do you got to do,

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Speaker 3: but you don't, you don't poke the bear and great

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Speaker 3: Williams made a mistake. He made a mistake.

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Speaker 2: He gotten but look I don't know what's in between

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Speaker 2: the years of great Williams, because because here's his mindset,

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Speaker 2: he thought that upset him.

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Speaker 3: Get him from I think I think that he wanted

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Speaker 3: to get in his face to let him know that

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Speaker 3: he was there. He's not afraid of him. And that's

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Speaker 3: the thing about talking like it doesn't mean you're afraid

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Speaker 3: of someone like you don't have to just because I

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00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 3: think for Butler, your your play does the talking instead

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Speaker 3: of just talking in his face. Right, And as soon

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Speaker 3: as he did that, the game was over, Like Butler

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00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 3: took that game over. And you just you have to

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Speaker 3: be better than that. As an athlete. You have to

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Speaker 3: know when you can, when you can do that, when

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Speaker 3: you should do that. And he made a mistake and

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Speaker 3: he owned it. He did, I mean, long word slid

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Speaker 3: answer about his parents and blah blah blah. It was

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00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: kind of an odd answer, but he owned it. He

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Speaker 3: said that I made a mistake. But you just can't

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Speaker 3: do that. And that is a game plan for athletes

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Speaker 3: like I like you, you shouldn't do the extracurricular because

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Speaker 3: for whatever reason, they play better when they're angry, and

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Speaker 3: they play better when they're fired up, and not only that,

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Speaker 3: when he starts playing well Butler does, or any athlete

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Speaker 3: who is of this caliber, then the rest of the

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00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: team starts playing better. Right, you can follow your leader.

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00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: And so when he started playing better, the rest of

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Speaker 3: the team picked it up. And you know there were

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Speaker 3: opportunities because then also you know, Butler was going down

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Speaker 3: the right, he was doing a lot of his offense

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Speaker 3: on the right wing, right, and he was he'd go

631
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Speaker 3: the right wing, he'd dribble, he'd turn shoot, and then

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Speaker 3: all the eyeballs are to him in those moments, and

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00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: then BAM's coming in, put back dunk, right, rebound dunk,

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Speaker 3: like every everyone else plays better because all the eyes

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00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 3: now are to Butler. What's Butler doing? We we gotta

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00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 3: watch Butler. We're gonna help on Butler. And as soon

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00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 3: as that happens and other players benefit from that. So again,

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00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: like the Scareport, don't poke the bear man. I just

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Speaker 3: you hear the stories by the way of other like

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Speaker 3: I mentioned Kobe, you hear these stories about like guys

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Speaker 3: that would that would be playing fine. And then talk

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Speaker 3: to Kobe and try to talk in his face, and

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Kobe puts up thirty five of

644
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Speaker 3: those guys. We've really to do with Jordan, right, Like,

645
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: don't so, Gret Williams, don't do that today.

646
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Speaker 2: Man, I know, love football and basketball, you can't do

647
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: that in baseball. I mean got bench jockeys in baseball.

648
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: Baseball, the rules of baseball. I went to a minor

649
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: league game last night. I'll tell you what, man, uh pitchclock.

650
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: Love it. Oh my god, the game it was. It

651
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: was hour and a half, six innings. My kids like

652
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: were were like not like ready to leave, Like an

653
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: hour and a half used to be three and a

654
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: half innings. You'd be like, oh geez, I mean, like,

655
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: can we kids, I pay all this money for a ticket,

656
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: can we like make it one more inning please? Golden

657
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: Knights Yeah, no, the Charlotte Knights.

658
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 4: No.

659
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Speaker 3: It's nice. Triple A park right in the middle of uptown.

660
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: You see the whole scott on a Charlotte. It's a

661
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 3: it's a white Sox. I played the Yankees Triple A

662
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: team last night, Uh, scrant Wilkesbury. But like we got

663
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: through seven innings in an hour and forty five minutes,

664
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Speaker 3: and like the kids are ready to go by then

665
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: they're kind of span you know, it's just still but

666
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Speaker 3: nonetheless like it, dude, huge fan of it, by the way,

667
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: in person. Nonetheless baseball, Yeah, you can't do that baseball.

668
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: But you just Grant Williams made a mistake, made a mistake.

669
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Speaker 2: I want to go about for one second. Now I

670
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: want to go back. We told about Jason Tatum. He's

671
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: the leader. This is one of the greatest players in

672
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 2: the world, and he is, no doubt, But is it

673
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: fair to put all the blame on him? I get it.

674
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: I know what happened Friday night in the last quarter

675
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: the souther that's were outscored I think in the list

676
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: to him and it's like thirty eight twenty two, and

677
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: he didn't score him. I didn't score it until he

678
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: got to the foul line. Jalen Brown put in sixteen

679
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: in that quarter. But here's the thing, where's Marcus Smart.

680
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: Where's Marcus Smart been?

681
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: He has done nothing but mark really But here's the

682
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: thing Andy, as I mentioned with Butler, like you follow

683
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: your leader, right, and Tatum is their leader. And so

684
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: when he's not playing well, of course other players can

685
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: pick it up, and Jaylen Brown could be one of them.

686
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: He didn't play on the fourth quarter. But if you're

687
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: relying on Marcus Smart to be your offensive, a fire's

688
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: got to help. Sure, he's got to help. But if

689
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: you're relying on him to be your offense, you're in

690
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: a bad You're in a bad spot. Right and so

691
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: now again, Jaylen Brown didn't play Temple on the fourth

692
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: court either. But again, Tatum is the guy you when

693
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: when you have an opportunity to win a game, you

694
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: turn your start, just like I expect, like Lebron the

695
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: game is close, and I know he's we talked about earlier.

696
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: He's not the same player he was anymore, but I

697
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: still expect the game close, like there's a ball Lebron go,

698
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: And yes he has this postseason. Tatum didn't do that.

699
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler did, right, Jamal Murray in the fourth quarter

700
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: Game two, did you have to to me? You have

701
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: to show it? And Tatum did it against Philly Game seven.

702
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: But that's not enough. You're in the two conference finals

703
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: now and you're playing on Miami team that's not as

704
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 3: talented as you. Everyone else. Until last night, had there

705
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: was left in the four teams left had not lost

706
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 3: a home playoff game, right, the Lakers had not till

707
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: last night. The Nuggets had not the Heat still have not.

708
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: Solas are Ford for at home now four and five

709
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: at home in the postseason. So Tatum's got to come

710
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: better in those moments. And to be honest with you,

711
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna do it today, Like why, what?

712
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: What do you think? Why the heater underdogs? Which is

713
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: silly to me? What what about the game today? Has

714
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: you excited that Boss is gonna do this? And then yeah, I.

715
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: Think I think the Heat's gonna come out to you say, look,

716
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: let's just chok them now, let's get on foot, up

717
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: with your throat and put them away. I think they're

718
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 2: gonna come out strong and they're gonna win. They got

719
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: their home crowd, they got everything going for them. And

720
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: I think right now Boston, right now is they got

721
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: some second thoughts in their mind, like what can we

722
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: do to beat this team?

723
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 3: And a Nuggets Heat postseason is not what the NBA

724
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: finals now what NBA had envisioned Cethdic in the finals,

725
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: But that's what we're headed to.

726
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: I think may not be bed though, being good.

727
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 3: Serious, I don't I mean, I don't know how Miami

728
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: is gonna defend Djoko Rich. But uh, we'll find out,

729
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 3: won't we.

730
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Speaker 2: Well, we'll see what happens today Boston loses all over,

731
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Speaker 2: We'll see. But he's Jeff Schwartz im Andy for Fox

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Speaker 3: Yes, all right.

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Speaker 2: First I gotta ask you. We got to check if

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Speaker 2: the book sales have since we started this segment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a second printing for sure. Okay, now you're the man.

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Speaker 2: You're the man who covers the PAC twelve during the week.

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Speaker 2: We know, Yes, what is the real scoop on USC's

762
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: athletic art that Mike Bond resigning because we've heard some

763
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: stories that he had some problems with office personnel. Now

764
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: he says he wants to reflect and had health challenges,

765
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Speaker 2: that wants to be with his family. Look, he was

766
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 2: a Cincinnati had no health challenge here.

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Speaker 3: I hate to uh, I hate to ever downplay someone's

768
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: health issues, but that was you know, that was the

769
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Speaker 3: part that in his statement when he resigned, that was

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Speaker 3: a kind of a line at the end of it,

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Speaker 3: right that I'm dealing with health issues and you know

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00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 3: there had been nothing previously reported about health issues in

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00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: his life. Of course, those can be private when or

774
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: the athletic director at USC, you know, if you have

775
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: health issues, it's probably pretty right. And then when the

776
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 3: president accepted the resignation and she put out a letter

777
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: doctor Carroll Foltz, there was no mention of like a

778
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: get well right, like I hope you get better and

779
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: you fight this or whatever. It was right and you

780
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: could come. So that was the first red flag, like, yeah,

781
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: that probably wasn't you know, isn't actually the story? And

782
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 3: you have an athletic director was there since twenty nineteen.

783
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: He's done a great job. He hired Lincoln Riley, he

784
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: hired Lindsay Gottlieb for women's basketball, he got them to

785
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: the Big Ten. He's done some important things for USC.

786
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: And for him to resign like this before the actual

787
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 3: move to the Big Ten happened, you know, flags are raised.

788
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 3: And look, I'm just reading the reports from mostly Ryan

789
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: Karci of the La Times, who has said, you know,

790
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 3: there was some concern about inappropriate comments, inappropriate touching, things

791
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: like that, and that that aligns with how this story happened.

792
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: Now that doesn't mean again it's it's I would be

793
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: I believe the stories and there were reports of the

794
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 3: since any The question becomes to me is not why

795
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 3: did he resign, it's why did us he hire him

796
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: knowing these concerns were they're at Cincinnati, right, Like you

797
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: hired a search firm, a pick search firm, right, and

798
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: you didn't know these or you hired them anyways, Like

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00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: what why are we hiring someone at USC at top

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00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: school in the country with questionable character issues and you know,

801
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: reports of inappropriate touching and interlude comments and whatnot. So yeah,

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00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 3: it's it's a us. He's got to find something like

803
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: they're going the Big Ten like in a year, and

804
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: this is and us he continues to have issues hiring

805
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: athletic directors. They've had a lot for a school that

806
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 3: you know, has a tradition of winning in a lot

807
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: of sports, they go through the life directors pretty quickly.

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00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: And part of it is, I guess recently, right, because

809
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: Mike gear was there for a long time. So I'm

810
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 3: I'm curious where they're going to go now. It'll be

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00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: a hot come on, hot job.

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00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 2: Sure is all right? I got a question for you.

813
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: Theycause your other football and Maven here and Joe Burrow,

814
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: the Bengal quarterback, he met with the media the other day.

815
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: I didn't go. I'm a little hobbled yet, but I

816
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: didn't make it there, but I watched it. I saw

817
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: what happened. Every media person, every contract talk, that's all

818
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: I talked about. Every media person was asking how much

819
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Speaker 2: you're making, what's the contract, what's the status? Why are

820
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: they so on God? Why are they so caring about

821
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Speaker 2: how much money he's going to make it his contract?

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00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. I wish I was there. And

823
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Speaker 2: the next news conference that that Burrows having, I'm going

824
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: and I say, Joe, why do you think all these

825
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: media people are so concerned with your contract? I don't

826
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: get it.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, else you're talking about right now?

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Speaker 2: Health? What are you going to do? Players?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I mean he's he but but

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00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 3: Burrow talked about it publicly too. It's it's coming, that's

831
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: his deal is coming next. And when you saw what

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00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: Jalen hurt Scott, right, it's like, oh, okay, well you

833
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 3: know Joe Burrow's next, Herbert's next. So I think that's

834
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: that's lamar. Obviously, I think there's it's just it's Joe

835
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 3: Burrow talked about it at least and the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: He brought it up, and I don't think he meant

837
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: to conversation to continue. He said it's going to get done.

838
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: Espasically what he said. I think he said the right things.

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Speaker 2: He's god to do what he can to help his teammates,

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00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: you know, so he could have like Jamar and all

841
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: these other receivers with him so they could get paid

842
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 2: as well.

843
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: The best contract in all sports is Patrick Mahomes continues

844
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: to be the best one, right, I mean, he is

845
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: like eighth paid NFL quarterback of the moment. He'll be

846
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 3: tenth after Burrow and Herbert get their money. And that's ludicrous,

847
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: right because he's the best part in the NFL and

848
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: him taking a little bit less it's not little. I mean,

849
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: he's a five undred million dollar deal, but him doing

850
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 3: a ten year deal really helps the Chiefs out, and

851
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: sure it does. I'm curiously when Burrow says, yeah, I'm

852
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 3: gonna do it's necessary to kind of keep everyone around,

853
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 3: Does that mean a ten year deal? Because that money

854
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: spread over the length of a ten year deal, and

855
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 3: as a cap goes up, you spread more money around

856
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: it and it helps, you know, helps helps your team,

857
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 3: you know, keep players you want to keep.

858
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: And it tells you a lot about the individual. Is

859
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: money more important than winning because you know you're getting

860
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: the money anyway. I mean, your life's not going to

861
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: change much for a million or two dollars, right, A

862
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: million or two is not going to change your life.

863
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 3: No, when you're making five and a million miil.

864
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: Exactly right. I just when I hear these money that's

865
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: really talk about. But we move on, all right, but

866
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about the goat, the real goat, Yes,

867
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 2: the real goat. We're here right on Fox Sports Sunday

868
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: coming up next. All right, this should be no argument

869
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: at all. Right here, that's coming right up. Good morning, everybody.

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Speaker 2: be and I guess, mister swarzt is gonna be no

877
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: argument on your part that it's going to be the

878
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets against the Miami Heat in the finals of

879
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: the NBA. However, I still have a ray of hope

880
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: that the Celtics can't come back the way they played

881
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: against the Heat. But it doesn't look good the big

882
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: one for them, the sim I.

883
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: Just don't know, like what exactly would make you believe

884
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: Boston can do this, right, Like, I get that they

885
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: have the they have the ability, like they have the

886
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: actual physical ability to be in the series. But they've

887
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: proven over and over again for whatever reason, that they're

888
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: just not mentally as tough as they need to be

889
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 3: to finish these games. And again, like they have better players,

890
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: no doubt about that as a team, but they can't

891
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 3: finish games. And you can't. You can't. You know, you

892
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 3: can't pick a team to win a series. They can't

893
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 3: finish games like this.

894
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to tell you something. I know

895
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: you're gonna laugh at me. It's okay, because it's a

896
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: foolish statement. But I'm under the belief that there are

897
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: certain teams that when you put the uniform on, the

898
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: ghosts of the uniform pass works. If you play for

899
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: the Yankees, there's some sort of a feeling of pride

900
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 2: that DiMaggio Ruth Garrett played for them, and you feel

901
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: really good inside. And sometimes players that go from other

902
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: teams to the Yankees perform better, maybe because they wear

903
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: that uniform. I feel the same way about the Boston Celtics.

904
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 2: You know, the pride that they've had with the sixteen

905
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: World Championships they've won. That Bill Russell's situation, every team

906
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: in the league's wearing the number six.

907
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: You think that the ghosts of the past are.

908
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: Haunting them, Well, not haunt that. I think that's going

909
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: to push them to victory in this series. And maybe look,

910
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: maybe Jason Tatum has no idea who Sam Jones and

911
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: Tommy Heinzen ever was, I don't know, or Jojo White.

912
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: But I just believed that this sort of a pride

913
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: factor that certain teams have and certain other teams don't.

914
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 3: Well I don't. I certainly think that it makes it

915
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: makes expectations of winning much higher. Of course, right like

916
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: expected to win. But I don't know if that makes

917
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: the players play any worse. I mean, you go there

918
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 3: and of course Tatum was drafted, but and Brown was drafted, like,

919
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: you go there expecting to win, Like that's that's why

920
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: you're there. But if you're a professional player and you

921
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 3: don't expect to win, like, what are you doing? Like

922
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: I when I went to the Giants. I went to

923
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: the Giants in twenty fourteen with the expectation we win

924
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: a championship. Like I wanted to go there. I had

925
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: a chance to go play for the Rams. I didn't

926
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 3: want to go play in St. Louis. No offense to

927
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 3: Saint Louis. I don't want to play for the Rams

928
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: like I wanted to play for the New York Giants.

929
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: The New York Giant there was a winning franchise. They had

930
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: one obviously, in a seven to eleven. Coffin was there,

931
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: Eli was there. I went to help them win a championship.

932
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: If you're a player in Boston right now and you're

933
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,959
Speaker 3: worried about expectations, you get out, you gotta ship yourself

934
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: out of there. Next year you go play somewhere else. Right,

935
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 3: you should expect to win if you're in Boston, just

936
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: like you should if you're in Los Angeles.

937
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: But honestly, there are certain players and when you went

938
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: on various teams, certain teams when the season started, even

939
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: training camp in August, you knew, damn well, there's no

940
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 2: chance in God's green earth that you would ever win,

941
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 2: maybe not even get a five hundred record, right you knew?

942
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 7: Players, No, right, players, No, I think players, every player

943
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 7: thinks they're gonna win no matter what, and then obviously

944
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 7: it's sent in at some point you're not gonna win.

945
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: If they lose, it's never their fault.

946
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean it's never. I've never lost anything

947
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: and it's been my fault. I've never give up a

948
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: sack or anything. No, but I think people. I think

949
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: people expect you're gonna win as a player, and then

950
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: obviously at some point you don't. But there is expectations

951
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 3: all the time of like winning, you know, just like

952
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 3: you expect to win and it doesn't always happen. At

953
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: some point it's not going to happen. But I but

954
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: everyone there is something where you do expect to win though,

955
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 3: like as an athlete.

956
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: I just think the Celtics still have that that that

957
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: ray of hope. I think the Lakers, of course they do.

958
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 3: Of course. Look the Celtics coming to this game thinking

959
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: themselves like, look man, we have we bone two games,

960
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 3: like we're right there, just got to finish better. It's

961
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: what they're saying, and they absolutely get it. You didn't

962
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 3: feel that way all you want, but it's you lost

963
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: two home games. Like, it's not like you lost just

964
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 3: two random games. You lost two home games, and you're

965
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: probably in a bad spot right now, right.

966
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 2: No, they backs against the wall, and obviously I think

967
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: that Miami's chomping at the bit as they should say. Look,

968
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: let's just put them out of their misery and beat

969
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: them badly, take come out strong, and bury them. That's

970
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: what we're going to do.

971
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens, I think. But Miami is

972
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: not for the most part, has not been a fast

973
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 3: starting team. So that might sound great, but I don't

974
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: know if Miami's gonna be able to do that quite

975
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: like we expected. They just don't start fast. It's not

976
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 3: what they do.

977
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: Well. You know, I'm gonna watch it. I don't care

978
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: what time it starts, but I'm watching eight.

979
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch it too. Let happy about watching it.

980
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 2: I'll be watching. However, I want to talk about the goat,

981
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: and when you say go to everybody says Tom Brady. Look,

982
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 2: the real goat in sports passed away the other day.

983
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: Jim Brown one of the greatest. He's debased to goat.

984
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: He died Friday at the age of eighty seven. This

985
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: guy was drafted in the first round of the nineteen

986
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: fifty seven draft. Played nine years for the Cleveland Browns

987
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: from fifty seven to sixty five. Led the league in

988
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: rushing eight of the nine years, rush for twelve three

989
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: hundred and twelve yards, averaged five point two yards to

990
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: carry in his career. Named to the Pro Bowl every

991
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,479
Speaker 2: year he played. Had led the Browns to the league

992
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: championship game three times, win the title in sixty four.

993
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 2: Was the MVP. Unbelievable, a non quarterback MVP three times.

994
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: This isn't an era when they're running back? Was King

995
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: not the quarterback?

996
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the one player. You always do that that

997
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 3: game where you say like, oh, can someone play in

998
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: this generation? Right, he gets someone that you know played

999
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 3: that played in the olden day quot unquote olden days,

1000
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 3: the older days, and played in the NFL now, And

1001
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 3: he's the one player that you've always said could do

1002
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 3: it right because he's six ' to two and he

1003
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: was so physically imposing as a player in the era

1004
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 3: that he was in that someone who is that size

1005
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: could certainly attempt to play in this era football, right, like,

1006
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 3: he's the only guy? Who who else? Who else? Have

1007
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 3: we said that about no? One? He's the guy. He's

1008
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: the guy who we have said. You know what? He

1009
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 3: was so dominant and so big, which again, the players

1010
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 3: weren't his size what he was playing that well? They

1011
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 3: were they were they were offensive lineman a six two

1012
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 3: two thirty like so offensive lineman was in nineteen sixty.

1013
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 3: I think that's that shows you how good of a

1014
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 3: player he was is.

1015
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy ran for at least one hundred

1016
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: yards and fifty eight of his one hundred eighteen regular

1017
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: season games if they don't have a twelve game schedule

1018
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: back then, he never missed a game. He rushed from

1019
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: more than a thousand yards in seven seasons, fifteen hundred

1020
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: and twenty seven yards in one game season, eighteen sixty

1021
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 2: three yards in a fourteen game year. I mean, could

1022
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 2: this guy be tackled? Because I'll give you an example.

1023
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 2: My good buddy is Tom Tinkle. You may know Tommy

1024
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: played for the Bengals. Who's a linebacker? And he told me,

1025
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: I said, who, Tom, Who's the toughest guy you have

1026
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: to try to tackle. He taught me Earl Campbell. He said,

1027
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: Earl Campbell's the toughest guy you have it try to

1028
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: bring down. I can imagine what it would be like

1029
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: to try to tackle Jimmy Brown.

1030
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love too that. So he's filming Dirty Dozen

1031
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 3: and he wanted more money, and the owner of the

1032
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 3: Browns was like, no, we're not paying any more Money's

1033
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna retire. It's retired. I think he was gonna.

1034
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: I think he actually was gonna. He was gonna find

1035
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: him for not showing up. Was I think the reason why. Yeah,

1036
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: he was gonna fight. Ar Modell threatened to find him

1037
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 3: from missing training camp. He's like, all right, well, I'm

1038
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 3: just not gonna play anymore. And he just became an

1039
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 3: actor and uh an activist. So yeah, it was uh,

1040
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: he just made it finish very I'll tell you what,

1041
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 3: if you have the ability to be an actor and

1042
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 3: and be done with the NFL for the years that

1043
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 3: he played, its good and good living man.

1044
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: I guess you could say the closest thing to Jim

1045
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: Brown today, maybe Derrick Henry maybe.

1046
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 3: Is a player. I think Derrick Henry sighed, sure, but

1047
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: they don't they don't run quite the same. Jim Brown

1048
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 3: ran who I mean to me? To me, a player

1049
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 3: that I think is Adrian Peterson and Jim Brown. I

1050
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 3: think that's the comparison. I know Adrian Pearson is not

1051
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 3: playing anymore, but that feels like more of the running style.

1052
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: What about Barry Sanders.

1053
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 3: Perry Samers is five to ten, but the way he

1054
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 3: played though, Yeah, but Jim Brown, I don't think that's

1055
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 3: the right. I think to me, it's it's Peterson, right, Yeah,

1056
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: about the same size they ran, I think sort of similar.

1057
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 3: Brown was probably had smoother as a runner. I think

1058
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: are Pierson comes to mind as a closest to Jim

1059
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: Brown as recent memory.

1060
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: You know, I'm really glad you mentioned the fact that

1061
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: he was an activist, which brings up something that this

1062
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: day and age, you see people on social media telling

1063
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: athletes shake your mouth and play ball. I mean, and

1064
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: you hear media people even say that. But they've been

1065
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: activists way before, people like Lebron James and everybody else

1066
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Speaker 2: in Monday Sports. I have no problem if an athlete

1067
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: can use the stage that he's on to do good,

1068
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with it.

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00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look, there wasn't there wasn't social media back

1070
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 3: in the sixties, fifties and sixties, it would it would

1071
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 3: have been terrible by the way, it would have been

1072
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 3: worse than it is now to be on social media

1073
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 3: with the way we you know, people talked about you know,

1074
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 3: and and felt about other Americans back then. But you know,

1075
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 3: so there was no stick to sports. But also, you know,

1076
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 3: the work that he did in the civil rights movement

1077
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 3: was incredible. And you know, most rational people which are

1078
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 3: not gonna be the one sending you a message on

1079
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 3: Twitter about you know, shut up and dribble, they applaud

1080
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 3: people to do that, right, that work to improve the

1081
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 3: lives of other people. You know, But you think about

1082
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 3: the shut up and dribble stuff, it's like it's just

1083
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 3: it's just such a small sect of of of of

1084
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 3: the country that feels that way. Ever, and we let

1085
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: the loud minority really put a stain on on it, right,

1086
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 3: like it's a it's a lot. It's a minority of

1087
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: people that feel like athletes just shut up and dribble. Right,

1088
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 3: It's a tiny minority of people. But of course, if

1089
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 3: an athlete agrees or says something that those people agree with, no, no, no, no,

1090
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: we want to hear more from that athlete. Right. It's

1091
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 3: so it's a it's as a farce, as a joke.

1092
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: Just shut up and dribble situation. And there was a

1093
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: woman I think from Fox.

1094
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 3: News it's I'm not gonna say your name, but yes, don't.

1095
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: Know it is yes, so. And the thing is, I

1096
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 2: think they say it out of fear, like you know,

1097
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: you're an athlete, Like what do you know? You're an athlete?

1098
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 3: You have no right to but what but what what

1099
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 3: do they what do they know? It's it's not out

1100
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 3: of fear, it's it's because to me, it's because it's

1101
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 3: a very easy target, right, it's a very easy target

1102
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 3: to tell Lebron James and athletes, by the way, are

1103
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: athletes Like do they know everything about every subject?

1104
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: No?

1105
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 3: And I think there are certain times wh I'm like, Okay,

1106
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: I I'd rather this athlete just you don't know everything,

1107
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 3: just be quiet, okay. Like, and there's people that I

1108
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: upset about the select kind of select choosing of stories

1109
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 3: to be to be a part of. But like I

1110
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 3: just if I don't agree with what an athlete says off

1111
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 3: the court, guess what, Andy, I just ignore them, right,

1112
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, fine, and you could agree to disagree.

1113
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 3: I like Lebron a lot. I've always rooted for Lebron.

1114
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: I think it was so silly hat he got for

1115
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: the decision. But there's things he says about life. I'm like, yeah, whatever, man,

1116
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 3: I disagree, Like whatever, I don't knew you. It's fine,

1117
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 3: shout up and dribble. It's just it's so silly. And yes,

1118
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 3: Jim Brown, you know you watch the highlights. I showed

1119
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 3: my son highlights the other day of him that I

1120
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 3: found because I just I knew he would ask about

1121
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 3: Jim Brown. They would talk about at school. Someone mentioned it,

1122
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 3: and so it was fun watching highlights with my son.

1123
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 3: Had so many questions about football in the sixties, but

1124
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 3: I tried the best I could explain what was happening.

1125
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: I don't remember him that well. I was a tyke.

1126
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 2: I was a young tike then. However, I remember watching.

1127
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 2: But the NFL was different then. I mean, it was

1128
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon, one o'clock and that was it. There was

1129
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: no Monday night. There was no Sunday night, certainly no

1130
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 2: Thursday night.

1131
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 3: You know.

1132
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: It was Monday, a Sunday at one and I lived

1133
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: in New York City as a kid in Brooklyn, and

1134
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 2: basically there was a blackout, so if the Giants there

1135
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: weren't even the Jets back then when he played, when

1136
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: the Giants were playing at home, people would drive to

1137
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: Connecticut to watch them. They'd rent motel rooms at Connecticut

1138
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 2: so they could watch the Giant games. He had been

1139
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: the ninety mile distance radius to break that blackout, So

1140
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 2: the only time I could see the Giants play was

1141
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: basically when they were away. The home games were blacked out. Yeah,

1142
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: and I remember that those Giants back then, not the

1143
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: fifty seven, but I remember in the sixties when running

1144
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: backs like Tucker Fredericson, Ernie Coy, Jim Morrison was playing.

1145
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: You know, Y Tittle was quarterback those teams. I remember.

1146
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: But the Jim Brown era, I mean, it was tough

1147
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 2: because we didn't really see the Cleveland Browns much in Brooklyn.

1148
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're aging yourself right now.

1149
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: Well, I'm a historian, you are.

1150
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 3: I could tell. I could tell the blackout having to

1151
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 3: drive ninety minutes is really funny. They did so, but yeah,

1152
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 3: it uh it. You know what Jim Brown did off

1153
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 3: the field was was impressive and you're right. Nowadays they

1154
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: would tell the shop and Drie Bull and I'm glad

1155
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 3: he didn't do it back then.

1156
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: And last, but not least now, the NBA retired Bill

1157
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 2: Russell's number six, and everybody's wearing it on their jersey.

1158
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: I'm hoping the NFL will retire thirty two. But if

1159
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: they do, oh J Simpson is gonna say I had

1160
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: retired my number.

1161
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, let's not. Let's not make this about OJ.

1162
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 3: He'll make it about himself. Don't worry, will I? Ye, don't.

1163
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 3: I'm going to retire a whole number in the NFL.

1164
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 3: Too many players, right, So I guess to do that.

1165
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 3: I mean I guess teams retire numbers all the time.

1166
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean how many numbers are retired in sports?

1167
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 3: Like forty two is for Jackie Robinson?

1168
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1169
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 3: Bill?

1170
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean, is Bill Russell retired? Just they're just worrying

1171
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 2: it on their and their jerseys.

1172
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 3: I think it's one of on the his numbers. His

1173
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 3: number I think is Jackie Robinson R. It's only number

1174
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 3: that's like, you wear this number. I mean, they obviously

1175
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 3: let Rivera and move on, and guys already have the

1176
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 3: number keeping them. But I think there's not many, not

1177
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 3: many guys that have had their entire number retired all

1178
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 3: over the sport.

1179
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: Right.

1180
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 2: Well, they made We'll see what happens here. If anybody knows,

1181
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,120
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Speaker 2: hour number three the playing game. But one NFL rookie

1191
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 2: certainly didn't make a friend with this move. That's next.

1192
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 2: He needs a recount. They'll tell you why in just

1193
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: about a minute. This is Fox Sports Son. They he's

1194
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, I'm Andy Ferman and Jeff ask and you

1195
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 2: shall receive big us our sports update. I can. Nick

1196
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 2: Kope has some answers for us about this retired number

1197
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: situation in the NBA number six with Bill Russell, and

1198
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 2: now we suggest it to the NFL they should do

1199
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 2: the same with Jim Brown's thirty two. Nick. What do

1200
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: you got?

1201
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, guys, So the NFL is the only major league

1202
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 5: in North American sports without a league wide retired number.

1203
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 5: NBA is not going to issue number six to any

1204
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 5: new players. Current players will be able to wear number

1205
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 5: six until they're done playing. Jeff mentioned number forty two

1206
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 5: of course with baseball, but hockey number ninety nine for

1207
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 5: Wayne Gretzky. That is the third number to be retired

1208
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 5: league wide.

1209
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 2: So there you have it, okank you very much?

1210
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 3: Is the NFL I think has too many players to

1211
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 3: retire numbers, that's my guests, like retire.

1212
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: Whole numbers, I mean league wide numbers just too Yeah.

1213
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like there are certain teams that have retired numbers,

1214
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: but like to like you get to a certain point

1215
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 3: where if you retire, you know, twelve numbers, like you

1216
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 3: run out a number, like especially if you retire too

1217
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 3: many of a certain looking.

1218
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: Asiltis have done that. Really they got a lot of

1219
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 2: retire They got double digit retired numbers, both those teams. Yeah,

1220
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: it's crazy boll you know, and maybe they're deserving of

1221
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: not I don't know, but that's what they do. Now

1222
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: you're speaking of like deserving. There's a podcast called the

1223
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: All Things Covered Podcasts, and this week the steel Is

1224
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh steel Is rookie tight end Darnell Washington was talking

1225
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: and he had the top five list of NFL tight

1226
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 2: end right, so he had his teammate Pat Freermouth, George

1227
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: Kittle from the forty nine Ers, Darren Waller from the Giants,

1228
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews from the Ravens, and Zach Ertz from the Cardinals.

1229
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 2: Guess who's missing on this list? Your guy?

1230
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, here's the thing, guys, is I know it's

1231
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 3: hard to do, especially it's me saying this is a

1232
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 3: former player, but a lot of players have no idea

1233
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 3: about football. Like they don't they don't watch football like

1234
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:03,959
Speaker 3: you'd be surprised how many players like don't like Okay,

1235
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 3: after a game, let's say I played a game. I

1236
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 3: was on the Giants. I played a one PM game, okay,

1237
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 3: one pay mester in the early game, I go home

1238
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 3: and watch football the rest of the night. I'm a

1239
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: football fan. I'm gonna watch football. No matter what I'm

1240
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: watching football, I like football. There are players that don't

1241
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 3: watch football. They watch just their team, their film and

1242
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 3: that's it. And they're not like they're fans of the game,

1243
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 3: but they're not fans of watching football. And when we

1244
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 3: get these lists of the top one hundred NFL players

1245
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 3: or darn out washing me, he and not he watches football, right,

1246
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 3: because you would not exclude Travis Kelsey wud be the

1247
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 3: first name you put up there. Of course, for any

1248
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 3: from anyone that watches football, the first answer you would

1249
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 3: give is Travis Kelcey.

1250
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: And maybe the reason he left him off because he's

1251
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: shrewd enough to say, guys, you and I will talk

1252
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 2: about his podcast.

1253
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 3: Do you think is it his podcast?

1254
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 2: Well, he was a guest on the All Things Covered podcast?

1255
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just think like you just you wouldn't

1256
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 3: have that answer if you you you because the crowds

1257
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 3: Coms is one of those guys that it's immediate first mentioned. Right,

1258
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 3: he's the first guy you mentioned.

1259
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: First ballot Hall of Famer.

1260
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 3: Correct, He's the first guy you mentioned in this conversation. So,

1261
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 3: sonya just don't watch a lot of football. He was

1262
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 3: in college to what you expect him to do you

1263
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 3: expect him to list the best. I don't know. I

1264
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 3: I think that it is. Uh, it's let's go show

1265
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 3: you that you can't you can't trust all all.

1266
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: These Well, let me defend him. And I don't know,

1267
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: I don't know that will watch it at all, But

1268
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 2: I'm going to defend him a little bit. He said

1269
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 2: he wasn't try to discredit Kelsey because you know, Chris

1270
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: Kelsey has under his credits a time Pro Bowl, a

1271
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: four time All Pro, two times Super Bowl Jim. But

1272
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: he said he compared Kelsey to the end on the

1273
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 2: Falcons Kyle Pitts, because he didn't line up as a

1274
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 2: conventional tight end enough during the twenty twenty season. Explain

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Speaker 2: that to me, please.

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Speaker 3: That's so painful. That's okay, guys, we need to go

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Speaker 3: watch the first four or five years of Travis Kelcey.

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Speaker 3: He was a blocker. He would crush guys. There's plenty

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Speaker 3: of highlights of him crushing guys as a blocker. As

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Speaker 3: he gotten older, he's moved away from that role. But

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Speaker 3: it's disrespectful to put him and Kyle Pitts. Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: Oh that bothers me so much like that's that's someone.

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Speaker 3: And again I don't blame Washington for not having watched

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Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey ten years ago. I watched it was thirteen

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Speaker 3: ten years ago, right, twelve ten years ago. Totally fine.

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Speaker 3: But to say that he doesn't block or didn't block,

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Speaker 3: or he guys compared to Kyle Pitts. Really, Travis Kensey's

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Speaker 3: a first battlet Hall of Famer. He's one of the

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Speaker 3: best tightens ever play the game, the best ever to

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Speaker 3: play the game at that position. Now, of course, the

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01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 3: game is different than it was twenty five years ago, right,

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Speaker 3: Can you argue that you know that, you know a

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Speaker 3: Tony Gonzalez would would have had even better numbers as

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Speaker 3: a pass catcher? Now, of course you can. You know Gronk,

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Speaker 3: I think you can argue with you him and Gronk.

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01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 3: Cronk was a better blocker his entire career. Goronk's also

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Speaker 3: much bigger, right than than than Kelsey is.

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Speaker 2: And Gronk and Gonzalez have been left off his list too.

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Speaker 3: But to say, yeah, but that was a current list

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01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 3: of players, I imagine, right, not not an all time list.

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Speaker 2: He's a tough five list of NFL tight ends.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the current all current guys. Wow. To

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01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 3: compare him to Travis Oh jeez, not like that hurts me.

1304
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 2: That's like that more surprised than Travis Kelsey, who's really

1305
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: out there, you know. And I love his response. I

1306
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: watched him a Satday and I live he was great.

1307
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 2: I'm surprised he hasn't come back and kind of give

1308
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 2: him a good zinger.

1309
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 3: Like sometimes you just don't punch down? Why the point? Yeah,

1310
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 3: like why why punch down? Man? That That is wow? Okay,

1311
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 3: all right, we're gonna see this top one hundred lists

1312
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Speaker 3: come out soon. The NFL always does every off season,

1313
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 3: and it's players like Washington that do these lists. I

1314
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 3: keep telling people, do not pay attention to his list.

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01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 3: This is why, right, this is why don't pay attention

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Speaker 3: to these lists. I thought it was indisputable and Travis

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01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 3: Couston was the best time in football. Didn't think we

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01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 3: had to like have this guy.

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Speaker 2: I think you'd stop after Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey period,

1320
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Speaker 2: that's it. And also you know the thing about maybe

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01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: George k he put he put Darren Waller, I mean

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01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 2: in like great story, but like he hasn't produced in

1323
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 2: because of injuries in a couple of years, like there's

1324
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 2: the Giants are hoping that he becomes what he is.

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01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: But darn old, I mean, excuse me. Waller's been on

1326
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 2: on the Raiders now for five seasons. He's played only

1327
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 2: two of them full time. Like he had played eleven

1328
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,479
Speaker 2: games in twenty twenty one and he started six games

1329
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: last year. He's spent seventeen games last two years. He's

1330
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 2: not the same tight ending he I think if he's healthy,

1331
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 2: he can certainly be that that tight end that he

1332
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 2: was in nineteen and twenty. But again, like to have

1333
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: got he just Washington is not paying attention to the

1334
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Speaker 2: NFL right now, you're right, You're exactly right, all right.

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Speaker 2: Comments are welcome on Twitter at Jeff Schwartz at Indy

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Speaker 2: of course, uh wait till you hear this excuse, Wait

1340
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Speaker 2: till you hear this excuse. That's coming up next on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday Live from the tierrack dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: But first, here's our guy, our update, Man of the

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Speaker 2: Century with all the century.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to atire mind number.

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Speaker 3: Then you're not going to get any use of softball

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Speaker 3: updates anymore.

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Speaker 5: Nohikes, Nick, yikes, indeed, I know they. I mean they

1349
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 5: looked as flat as you can look. Not just today,

1350
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 5: yesterday that was that was pretty raw. Anyways, we will

1351
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 5: move on to the NBA. Denver Nuggets now went away

1352
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 5: from the NBA Finals. They've got a three to zero

1353
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 5: series lead on the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals,

1354
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 5: one nineteen to one oh eight over LA in LA

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Speaker 5: last night. Nuggets have now won five straight playoff games,

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Speaker 5: closest that Denver has ever been to the finals in

1357
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Speaker 5: their forty seven year franchise history. Jamal Murray led all

1358
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Speaker 5: scores with thirty seven points. Nicole Jokich battled foul trouble,

1359
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Speaker 5: but he did finish with twenty four points, six rebounds,

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Speaker 5: and eight assists. Anthony Davis led the Lakers with a

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Speaker 5: double double twenty eight points eighteen rebounds. Lebron James also

1362
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 5: had a double double twenty three points and twelve assists.

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Speaker 5: Here is Lebron on where the Lakers go from here?

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Speaker 8: You know, as time going right back home and started

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Speaker 8: to refew and started the treatment process and recovery process

1366
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Speaker 8: and get ready for Monday. So my mind set is

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Speaker 8: always knocked in as as if as a game.

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Speaker 5: Won Stanley Cup Playoffs Eastern Conference Final, Matthew could Chuck

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Speaker 5: did it again. He scored the overtime winner for the

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Speaker 5: Panthers for the second straight game, two to one over

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Speaker 5: the Hurricanes, as Florida takes a two zero series lead.

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Speaker 5: PGA Championship brooks Keepko leads after three rounds. He has

1373
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Speaker 5: had six under for the tournament. Victor Hovelin and Corey

1374
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 5: Conners are one shot back. Bryceon to Shambo, Scotti, Scheffler,

1375
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Speaker 5: Justin Rose, Rory McRoy all on the leaderboard heading into

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Speaker 5: Sunday's final round. Great story as well coming out of

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Speaker 5: this tournament. Michael Block is a club pro in southern

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01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 5: California and has had an improbable run. He is even

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Speaker 5: for the tournament. He has tied for eighth place. Twenty

1380
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Speaker 5: club pros across the country reached the PGA Championship and

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01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 5: they rarely make the cut. Block is doing that and

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Speaker 5: then some. By the way, all that rain on Saturday

1383
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 5: final round, the weather is shaping up to be clear today.

1384
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Speaker 5: National Treasurer won the Preakness trained by Bob Baffert. Derby

1385
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 5: champ Mage finished in third, and in boxing, Devin Haney

1386
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 5: who retained the lightweight championship a unanimous decision over Vasili Lomachenko.

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Speaker 5: Now let's go back to Andy Furman and Jeff Schwartz.

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01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: I can see it now. Now, this is better than

1389
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,959
Speaker 2: the dog ate my homework. Let me tell you that. Really,

1390
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Speaker 2: we can tell you all about it in just about

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Speaker 2: you know this better than anybody. Mister Schwartz, were talking

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Speaker 2: about home field advantage in sports all the time. Is

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Speaker 2: it real you played in the pros eight years? Is

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01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 2: it real to have that home field advantage?

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01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 3: I think so? Yes.

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01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 2: Okay, we agree on that. But there's one player from

1404
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills said whether at home field advantage was

1405
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 2: a disadvantage when the Bills lost to the Bengals back

1406
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 2: in January in the Divisional round. Former Bills wide receiver

1407
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 2: Isaiah Mackenzie the snow and home field hurt the team

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01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 2: and the Bills would have been better off if the

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01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 2: game had been played indoors. Well, the fact is it

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Speaker 2: for the both teams, So that's weak. It really is correct.

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Speaker 3: They both have to deal with with the weather. Buffalo

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Speaker 3: has more snow games than the Bengals do, so you

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Speaker 3: should be a little more prepared for that, which is

1414
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Speaker 3: interesting because the Bills are better in New Stadium without

1415
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 3: a dome. I don't understand the point of that, but

1416
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 3: certainly okay, and I just man players. Sometimes it's so

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01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 3: hard just to be like, yeah, we lost, like we lost,

1418
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Speaker 3: like just accept the loss, no excuses and just take

1419
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 3: the l And everyone had to play in the snow

1420
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 3: so the Bengals, And again, snow is not bad if

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01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 3: it's not windy, it's just snowing. It's not that big

1422
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 3: of an issue. The wind what affects teams more because

1423
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 3: the wind affects the way quarterbacks can throw the ball, right,

1424
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 3: unless you know you had that That game was been

1425
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,839
Speaker 3: ten years ago. Now that won in in uh in Washington.

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01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 3: Was it an Eagles Eagles Lions one that had like

1427
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 3: ten feet ten inches of snow? That that that's a

1428
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 3: lot of snow, right, that affects the game. But the

1429
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 3: game in Cincinnati and in Buffalo wasn't a ton of snow.

1430
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Speaker 3: They're able to clear the field and I don't think

1431
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 3: it was that windy, and so you can't make that huge.

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01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 3: You're spoke, you have a home fit advantage, so you're

1433
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 3: you're technically the better team. You were the favorite, and

1434
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 3: you guys came out flat. And the Bills are kind

1435
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 3: of going backwards, right, So it three years ago they

1436
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 3: lost the Chiefs in the in the championship game, change game.

1437
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 3: Two years ago they lost the Chiefs in Division around

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Speaker 3: in Kansas City, and this past year they lost a

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01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 3: home to the Bengals, right, and they're going backwards, and

1440
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Speaker 3: I don't I don't like seeing the Huges like that.

1441
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 3: It's it's really it's pretty lame. Like the Bengals were

1442
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 3: the Bengals dominated, Like you up front, you had a

1443
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 3: game where the Bengals are missing three offensive linemen. If

1444
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 3: I'm correct right, if I recall that, Joe.

1445
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 2: Forty plus yards two touchdowns, and then on Twitter, Jamar

1446
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 2: Chase said it's a crazy excuse why because he had

1447
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 2: sixty one receiving yards and a touchdown. He said on

1448
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 2: Twitter that the Bengals Bills games was the first time

1449
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 2: he ever played in the snow.

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01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 3: I was gonna go, I was gonna go there, and

1451
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 3: I'm glad he said that, because a lot of us

1452
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 3: never get to play in the start. I had one

1453
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 3: snow game in my entire life. It was the same

1454
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 3: weekend as that famous Philly Detroit game. We were we

1455
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 3: were in d C. And we're playing Washington and it

1456
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 3: snowed that game for the half. It was the only

1457
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 3: time I ever played in the snow. It was so

1458
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 3: much fun. We also kicked their butts, so I was

1459
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 3: made way more fun as well. But like, yeah, you can't.

1460
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 3: I just wish sometimes athletes would just would just allow

1461
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 3: themselves to admit they lost. It doesn't mean you didn't

1462
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 3: play as hard or that you stink as a play.

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01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: It wasn't your day, but not even that Andy, like you,

1464
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 3: we just lost, Like, yeah, they beat us. Congratulations the Bengals,

1465
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 3: they beat us. Move it along, and I just want

1466
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 3: to again, it's not the nature of some athletes that

1467
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 3: make excuses blah blah blah. But you just cut your

1468
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 3: butts up, like the Bengals went in there and won,

1469
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,560
Speaker 3: controlled the line of scrimmage and just dominated you, and

1470
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Speaker 3: you just have to accept the l man. Just take

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Speaker 3: that loss you lost.

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Speaker 2: Here's my question, and I never would have thought about

1473
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 2: this until this story came up. There is an advantage.

1474
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 2: I think there is an advantage all those years that

1475
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning played in the Dome in Indianapolis or the

1476
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints in New Orleans. I mean there is

1477
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 2: an obvious advantage to play in the Dome. I think

1478
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: it's an obvious advantage to play in Miami or Tampa Bay.

1479
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 2: I really believe climate makes a difference more orange back

1480
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 2: in LA, don't you.

1481
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 3: Think well, I think that the climate so Again to me,

1482
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 3: it's about It's about the wind more than anything else.

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01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 3: I think the climate matters more to like dome teams,

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Speaker 3: because we've seen dome teams tailor their roster to playing

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01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 3: on a faster surface at home. And when you're playing

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01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 3: on turf in great weather, you just you you don't

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01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 3: have issues of slippage right on the field. You don't

1488
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 3: have you know, weird weather that can affect a game,

1489
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 3: and you build your roster around that. I mean the

1490
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 3: Colts you mentioned paying many for all those years they

1491
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 3: had those pass rushers that really excelled on the turf

1492
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 3: for the ability to get off and again, you're typically

1493
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 3: gonna play a little faster on turf just because there's

1494
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 3: there's again you just when you take off, there's no ground,

1495
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 3: give it all right because you're just on the turf.

1496
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 3: And they set their roster for that, and then they

1497
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 3: had to play outside. You know, we're as well. Your

1498
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 3: your arm strength if as a quarterback needs to be

1499
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 3: better if you're gonna play outside more often, because you're

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Speaker 3: gonna throw the ball again in conditions that aren't his

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01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 3: greatest thing the inside. It's why you again, it's why

1502
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 3: you see often Dome teams go on the road in

1503
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 3: the playoffs and struggle. It's different for them for those reasons.

1504
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,560
Speaker 2: And the good news for Isay mackenzie. He wanted to

1505
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 2: play in the snow at all this year. Why the

1506
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's cull him in March and need play twenty

1507
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 2: twenty three in a dome when he signed with the

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01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts. So he's happy now, I guess he is,

1509
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 2: should be right, all right. He's Jeff Schwartz am Andy Furman.

1510
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 2: It's his Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. The

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01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 2: game that could leave you in tears. It's Bottom Barrel

1512
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 2: Benning and it's freaking next and he right around the

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01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 2: ben It's about thirteen minutes now before the top of

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01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 2: the hour. This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

1515
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 2: He's Jeff schwartzam Andy Furman. Of course we're alive from

1516
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 2: the ti iraq dot com studios. We got a gate

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01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 2: to play. Let's play it. It's bottom his life.

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01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 8: He put my wany to sleep.

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01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 2: People get my money. I'll put your brain to sleep, Betty. Yeah,

1520
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 2: it's putting your brain to sleep. The man with the

1521
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 2: brain himself, the big Ee, the Big Ee.

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01:13:56,160 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 4: Happy Sunday, guys, Happy Sunday. Really exactly, really exciting sports

1523
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 4: we have today?

1524
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: Oh you do excited at all?

1525
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,879
Speaker 4: I know I'm trying to. I drank a couple of coffees.

1526
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 4: I'm I'm getting going come on now, let a kick in.

1527
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 9: Let a kick in. Here we go.

1528
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 4: American corn hole, New England Woodchucks versus the Arizona burn What.

1529
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 9: Have we got?

1530
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 3: Oh? Oh man?

1531
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 9: By the way, last week was both of you guys

1532
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 9: went three and two?

1533
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 3: Anyway, of course, I mean, of course we make everyone

1534
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 3: money on the show. You know, I'm think about West Coast.

1535
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 3: Ut take Arizona. Here, I take Arizona. I'm gonna do

1536
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 3: you take your your your Northeast there.

1537
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go in New England. I just think that

1538
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: it's really difficult to practice corn hole in the heat

1539
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 2: of Arizona. We're in New England. You got a little

1540
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 2: bit of a better climate. So I'll go to New England.

1541
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 9: I think they have the advantage there, you go, You

1542
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 9: would think they're better.

1543
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 3: Reasoning for that's the best, Yeah, I mean, yeah.

1544
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 4: It's a good one. That was a good reasoning, all right.

1545
01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 4: Indie India cricket Mombay Indians versus the sunrise hydro bad.

1546
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 2: I assume sunrises in India.

1547
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, the sunrise what hydro bad? That's what it is.

1548
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 9: Hydro bad.

1549
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 3: Well, I think that I'm gonna go with the hydro

1550
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 3: bad because I think I felt that the Mumbai Indians

1551
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 3: like this. You know, I don't want the nickname being

1552
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 3: so close to the to the name of the country.

1553
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 9: It's backwards. You know.

1554
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Indians, but I'm not too

1555
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 2: pleased with that because I don't think it's politically correct. Really,

1556
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 2: I really don't. I think I may during the week

1557
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 2: write a letter to the Bombay Indians Ball Club and

1558
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: tell them that, you know, it's just not right. The

1559
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 2: Cleveland Indians changed in any why can't you change you.

1560
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with you today just for the sake

1561
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 2: of it, and then after that you will hear from.

1562
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 3: Me strongly worded letter. I'm your typewriter.

1563
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Andy on fire, all right? Onto American Darts. Okay,

1564
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 4: we're gonna go Michael Smith versus Michael van Gerwin.

1565
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 9: Don't they sound name?

1566
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: That?

1567
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 9: The name sound fake?

1568
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 3: But anyway, I feel like if you don't take ted

1569
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 3: Lasso here, you're doing the wrong thing. Oh, Cornwall was

1570
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 3: actually on television from last year. Bummer, I'll take Uh.

1571
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 9: Who's is there like a favorite in this No, it's

1572
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 9: actually wait, I don't help him out. I'll have to

1573
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 9: pick them to pick them to pick them.

1574
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take uh.

1575
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 9: Smith, you said Smith or Van Gerwin? Both are Michael.

1576
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 3: I don't take Van Gerwin.

1577
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 2: I'm glad you. I'm glady. It was normally I don't

1578
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 2: take the guy that you take. But if you're going

1579
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 2: to take Smith, I was going to take Smith to

1580
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 2: why Because Michael Smith's name resonates a great memory for me.

1581
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 2: He was a bunk made of mine at Timberlay Camp

1582
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 2: when I was a camper. So maybe it's to say

1583
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 2: Michael Smith. I don't know.

1584
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 3: That that's a that's too boring of a name. I'm

1585
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 3: taking Van Gerwin.

1586
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 2: I got Michael Smith.

1587
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 9: Okay, all right, Michael Smith.

1588
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 3: It was all right.

1589
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 4: Onto et Sports. I like the East sports thing. You know,

1590
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 4: it's more like the modern day thing.

1591
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, Andy, that works out well?

1592
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, before we throw that in.

1593
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 3: Even a big video game, guy, I could tell even.

1594
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 9: Though call of duty we don't really count.

1595
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 2: I still play pimball.

1596
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 3: What do you mean?

1597
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 9: Okay? Call of duty? That's uh, I don't know. You

1598
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 9: guys know that, Andy? You know call of duty?

1599
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, I know. I know you do. I

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01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 3: know you.

1601
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 2: I don't play it, though I know it.

1602
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, all right.

1603
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 4: The New York sub Liners versus the Boston Breach against

1604
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 4: It's a matchup and it's like seventy seven and like,

1605
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 4: yeah breach.

1606
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I gotta feel like I'll let any take

1607
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 3: his New York team because you can never pick up Boston.

1608
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 3: But right now I might have with Boston because of

1609
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 3: the of the Celtics, but I will take I'll take

1610
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 3: the Boston the Boston team here.

1611
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 2: You know what's funny you mentioned that. Can you imagine

1612
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 2: if the Celtics lose today, what a flop Boston was.

1613
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: To see what the Bruins and Celtics think about it?

1614
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 3: So they played. They play a seven on seven like

1615
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 3: call duty tournament. I'm gonna look this up online.

1616
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 2: I got the sub Liners check it out. So they

1617
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 2: play like is it playing today?

1618
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 3: Oh, here's right here, limit, here's one. Here's one. Oh,

1619
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,839
Speaker 3: here's one from last year the Subliners against the Atlanta

1620
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 3: something or other. Wow. They just play, like, just sit

1621
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 3: down and play it. Wow.

1622
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 9: I feel like it's a really big supposed it's really

1623
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 9: oh yeah, uh huh, sorry.

1624
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 3: I watch Oh yeah, so man, I wish I had

1625
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 3: time for video games. I at least love like Modern

1626
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 3: Warfare two. That was like, oh I crushed that game.

1627
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 9: A lot of fun.

1628
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1629
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 9: By the way, Andy, Michael Smith is not your friend.

1630
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 9: He's uh. He was born in nineteen ninety and his

1631
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 9: his nickname is the bully Boy.

1632
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 2: It was a bit of a bully in summer camp.

1633
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 2: He really was.

1634
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 4: He's the number one uh, he's a number one darts

1635
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 4: player in the world right now, Wow, how about that.

1636
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 3: I have a lot of questions on this Call of

1637
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 3: Duty stuff. Do you like, uh, do you get your

1638
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 3: like does everyone get the same weapons or like you

1639
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 3: get to.

1640
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 9: Like I don't know. I'll actually look into it this

1641
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 9: week and I'll come back with some And we're.

1642
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 3: Kind of curious about this because if you have the

1643
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 3: same amount of weapons, then like it's just skilled play, right,

1644
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 3: So what team is better weapons the other one?

1645
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 9: That's a really good question.

1646
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah for the gamers, it's great, great question.

1647
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 3: I love it deep on this stuff, Andy, I want

1648
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 3: to make sure I'm prepared.

1649
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, I may just go get an Xbox, you know. Anyway,

1650
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 9: on the.

1651
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 2: Handball, handball, here we go normal sports.

1652
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 9: We got Paris Verse, Shark Trace, What's what's that city called?

1653
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 3: Is that what it is? That's color? Oh?

1654
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 9: I was like, damn, I don't know.

1655
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 3: I'll take that team.

1656
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 2: What's the other team, Paris? I'll go whatever Schwartz has.

1657
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 2: I'm going opposite, all right.

1658
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 3: He wants to lose, You want to lose this, I

1659
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 3: get it.

1660
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 2: But what kind of a handles? I'll do a handle

1661
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 2: into a habit. Help me out.

1662
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 3: Give me some in some park in New York City,

1663
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 3: in Paris.

1664
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 9: I don't know.

1665
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 2: Paris, but good stuff. I mean two, three out of five?

1666
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 2: Two out of three? Are you gonna give me some

1667
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 2: rules here? No?

1668
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's yeah.

1669
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 2: It's you and you've both been twenty one twenty one

1670
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 2: game where I guess Yeah.

1671
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 4: I mean, I've got one more. I got table tennis.

1672
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 4: We can do six this week. I got uh Sang

1673
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 4: Sue Lee versus Yang Chang Chun.

1674
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 3: Well, just give me one.

1675
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 2: I'll take the Yang Man. Sometimes change is you needed?

1676
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 2: It will explain why in just a minute. Welcome everybody

1677
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 2: to Fox Sports Sunday. He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Andy Furman,

1678
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,599
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Speaker 2: com studios. Ti iraq dot Com will help you get

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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz. Here we are basketball on the main stage

1684
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 2: tonight Celtics heat in Florida. But before we get to that,

1685
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 2: the NBA finally took a look at their product and

1686
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 2: they listen to Denver Nuggets coach Mike Bolone when he

1687
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 2: said the All Star Game is the worst basketball game

1688
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 2: ever played. And the NBA right now is thinking and

1689
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 2: going back to East versus West, Thank goodness, thank goodness,

1690
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 2: instead of that drafting thing back and forth East versus West,

1691
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 2: more competition. People know what's going on. I didn't like

1692
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 2: the idea that you have teammates on one team playing

1693
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 2: against each other in the All Star Game. That was

1694
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 2: just playing stupid.

1695
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 3: Am I allowed to admit as someone in the media

1696
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 3: that I don't watch a sporting event, sure, because I

1697
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 3: don't watch NBA All Star Game, like nothing about it

1698
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 3: excites me. I've said this about other All Star games,

1699
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 3: whether it's the Pro Bowl, which they got rid of,

1700
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 3: by the way, or the MLB All Star Game, which

1701
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 3: is the best All Star game, because you can't like

1702
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 3: fake play baseball, right?

1703
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:51,560
Speaker 2: Is that?

1704
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 3: You know, back when we didn't have as much access

1705
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 3: to players, All Star games were often the one time

1706
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 3: of the year someone who grew up in Los Angeles

1707
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 3: and watched unfortunately too much Dodger baseball. They just played

1708
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 3: National league teams, right, there was no interleague play, and

1709
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 3: you know, you would catch maybe something on a national

1710
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 3: TV game, but other also too. We'd access to WGN,

1711
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,839
Speaker 3: which is the Cubs and TBS, or is the Braves

1712
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 3: again national league teams. So the All Star Game and

1713
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 3: weekend was maybe the first time all year I saw

1714
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 3: Ken Griffey Junior play, even though in the home run

1715
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 3: Deerby it was players that I didn't see playoff season.

1716
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 3: I just didn't have access to watching them play. And now,

1717
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 3: obviously I can turn on a TV right here, I

1718
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 3: can go to social media. I could see every home

1719
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 3: run hit last night. I could see every great play

1720
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 3: made in Major League Baseball. So the All Star Game,

1721
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 3: it's like, well, I've seen this already. I don't need

1722
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:48,560
Speaker 3: to watch one more day of these guys playing. I

1723
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 3: just watched one hundred and two games of startin guys

1724
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 3: playing in the NBA for the same thing, like what

1725
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 3: about the dunk cuts? I see dunks like this happen

1726
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 3: in games there's no there's And also the best players

1727
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 3: don't even do any of these events. You know, the

1728
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 3: dunk Contest used to have the best players of the

1729
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 3: NBA in the dunk contest, and so it's just not

1730
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 3: as exciting anymore. I don't need to stay up late

1731
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 3: to watch an All Star game with a weird format,

1732
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 3: like just go back to the regular format, Like, just

1733
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 3: go back like baseball, the stupid tie thing, the terminal

1734
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 3: home foot advantage, Just go back to playing the baseball game.

1735
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 3: Just go back to playing the basketball game. People are

1736
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 3: gonna watch or not watch. They don't care about what

1737
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 3: gimmick you're gonna do, Like you're not going to track

1738
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 3: someone like me. He doesn't really watch these All Star

1739
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 3: games to buy in because they're drafting players now, especially

1740
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 3: if you recall Andy, the players got upset because they

1741
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 3: might be drafted last, so they changed the format of

1742
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 3: the draft to hurt people's feelings.

1743
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 2: And you know what, maybe that's the reason, more so

1744
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 2: than anything else. They're doing it because the players were

1745
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 2: whining about it. Because they began using that player draft

1746
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 2: during the twenty eighteen season, and maybe to to some fans,

1747
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: that draft is somewhat entertaining. When you go back to

1748
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 2: the conference versus conference format, maybe it'll be more competition there.

1749
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 2: Who knows, but I think it got something there. I

1750
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 2: think the players are whining and crying, say we don't

1751
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 2: want to be humiliated and embarrassed with this draft. Let's

1752
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 2: go back to East versus West.

1753
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 3: I guess I just think that it's just it. It's

1754
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 3: not going to get people like myself to watch right

1755
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 3: now if you played that game hard. Everyone played that

1756
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 3: game hard, which I get why they don't. Maybe I

1757
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 3: go back to watching, but it's just not I don't

1758
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 3: think it's not entertaining of a product anymore.

1759
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to taste the same way. By the way,

1760
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a crazy story. It really to me.

1761
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I mean, all the hooplos surrounding the game,

1762
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 2: I don't care. It doesn't bother me. I think the

1763
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 2: game itself is the showcase. I loved it and I

1764
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 2: was a kid. This is going back to nineteen seventy six.

1765
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 2: I took a train from New York City and believe

1766
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 2: me or not, it was only like seven bucks, seven

1767
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 2: bucks from New York City. I went to Philadelphia to

1768
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 2: the All Star Game, to see the NBA All Star

1769
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 2: Game in nineteen seventy six with a buddy of mine,

1770
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 2: and then we went back home eighteen dollars round trip.

1771
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 2: I picked about fifty dollars in one way right now

1772
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 2: on the amtrak to do that.

1773
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 3: But we did it.

1774
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: And it was just a game.

1775
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 2: There was no other events. It was just a game.

1776
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,759
Speaker 3: And I loved it, but also too, like you probably

1777
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 3: got to see players that you had not seen play before.

1778
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:14,719
Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt.

1779
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 3: And now it's there's an ease to again watching highlights,

1780
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 3: watching you know, watching So I think these all I

1781
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 3: still think going to sporting events is a lot of fun.

1782
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 3: I went to look at a minor league baseball game

1783
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 3: last night. There could be certain a lot of fun

1784
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 3: aspects of going to sporting events, but a game like

1785
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 3: an All Star game. This is why I think you're

1786
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 3: just not You're just not seeing the same the same

1787
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 3: excitement for these for these for these games.

1788
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 2: You know what, you know me a little bit now,

1789
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 2: you know, like I'm a Luna tickets who I was

1790
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 2: writing letters and I did write a letter to Adam

1791
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 2: Silver about this All Star Game, and I said moreover

1792
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 2: about the game, I said there should be an All

1793
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 2: Star Trophy MVP trophy name they after Haskell called I

1794
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 2: did the history here. Cone invented the All Star Game

1795
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 2: in nineteen fifty three. Haskell Cone was the first PR

1796
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 2: director of the NBA. And he gets no recognition whatsoever.

1797
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 2: And he should be given his name on a trophy

1798
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 2: for the MVP of the All Star Game. So we'll

1799
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 2: see if Adam Silver reads my letter.

1800
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 3: What's the what's the trophy? Now's who gets it?

1801
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 2: Now? For No, Jerry West isn't Jerry West.

1802
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 3: Every trophy is like that. Every trophy is a name

1803
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 3: in the NBA. And that's the only thing too. It's

1804
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 3: like so silly, like the you know, the the X,

1805
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 3: Y and Z defensive player, the just it's just a

1806
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 3: defensive play of there. Just give them the awarder, Like

1807
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 3: why does it have to touch the NBA. I think

1808
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,520
Speaker 3: it is really trying to, you know, get more eyeballs.

1809
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 3: I think, and also on the past it feels like

1810
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 3: which they should be doing. But I'll tell you what

1811
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 3: Nuggets Heat series, you your eyeballs? That serious?

1812
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 2: So I think tonight. There'll be some people watching because

1813
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,679
Speaker 2: it's a meaningful game, and Boston's a pretty good TV market,

1814
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 2: so I'll get some viewers there. But I to tay

1815
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 2: you now, like I watched that Celtics series, and I'm

1816
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: not too pleased with these media types pointing fingers at

1817
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum. I don't think it's right. I know he's

1818
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: the man, he's the one of the greatest players on earth.

1819
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 2: He said he was, And he scored thirty four points.

1820
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 2: His team was up, they were like by nine with

1821
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 2: six and a half minutes to go on Friday, and

1822
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 2: then you know what happened. It wasn't him. They forgot

1823
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 2: about him. Where was the ball? He took one shot

1824
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 2: in the last nine minutes in a game. I mean,

1825
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 2: it wasn't all his fault.

1826
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 3: But sure you can blame the coach for that. But

1827
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 3: I think that that if you are a top end player,

1828
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 3: you demand the ball, you'll get the ball. Like how

1829
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 3: many times are you watching that game last night? The

1830
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 3: Lakers game last night, and the ball like Lebron goes,

1831
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 3: he gets the ball from the point guard, like he goes,

1832
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 3: and you know, he goes and give me the basketball.

1833
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to work. I have an idea.

1834
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 3: Are you telling me Tatum could have got the basketball

1835
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 3: from the point guard and they ran a set where

1836
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 3: they cleared out for him and he went to work.

1837
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 3: And again that's the part that's coaching, right. The coach

1838
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 3: had been like, hey, guys, guys, give the ball to Tatum,

1839
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 3: or call time out. Let's get a play out of

1840
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 3: the break for Tatum. So they're all valid criticisms of

1841
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 3: the coach.

1842
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 2: Okay, no doubt about that, because you talked about Lebron. Yeah,

1843
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 2: Lebron was posting up. Lebron was going court to court,

1844
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 2: one end of the court to the other, and he

1845
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 2: can't stop the guy when he's posting up. He's dangerous.

1846
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 2: And that's great. But when I see the Celtics, I

1847
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 2: don't see And he said plays or isolations for Jason

1848
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 2: Tatums and the right.

1849
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 3: So that is a valid criticism. But I also think

1850
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 3: it's valid to say, like, hey, man, like Tatum, go

1851
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 3: go get the ball. If you want this to be

1852
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 3: your time, go take the ball from the point guard.

1853
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,600
Speaker 3: Go find a way to get the ball on the

1854
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 3: wing and move and and tell everyone to clear the

1855
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 3: f out because your comany, it's your ball right now, right?

1856
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,719
Speaker 3: Like how many times we see that in THENBA We're guys,

1857
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,639
Speaker 3: give me the ball. I'm dribbling the wing. Everyone cart

1858
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler Game two. Yeah, he did the same thing,

1859
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 3: multipion in a row. He'd have the ball on the

1860
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 3: right on the back see the right wing three point line.

1861
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 3: The rest of the heat would move out of the way,

1862
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 3: and he would work that entire right side of the

1863
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 3: court and put up a jump shot. Like, we can't

1864
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 3: do that in Boston. We can't clear the court out. Yeah,

1865
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 3: they were doubling Tatum sometimes, so what like So to me,

1866
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 3: it's on the coaching staff.

1867
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 2: Jimal Murray last night.

1868
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 3: He is not. Yeah, they were double They were doubling

1869
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 3: Joker for the most part, and they just.

1870
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 4: You.

1871
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't lose two home games where you

1872
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 3: had a chance to win if the Boston did with

1873
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 3: your top dog not making you feel on the fourth

1874
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 3: quarter anyway you want to cut it. You blame Tatum,

1875
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 3: you blame the coach, you blame his teammates. Is not acceptable, that's.

1876
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 2: Not We talked about expectations all the time, and maybe

1877
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 2: that's why Budenhauser gut fired in Milwakee because the expectations.

1878
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 2: But number one seed loose to Miami, got out in

1879
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 2: the first round. He's get fired. We said that that

1880
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 2: day over here, we talked about it, said he'll be fired,

1881
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 2: and he was fired. Now does Moszula get fired? I

1882
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 2: think he gets fired. I think the expectations for Plus

1883
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 2: were the fact that number two seed they should go

1884
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 2: all the way boom.

1885
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 3: You know, really, it sounds like I might even sure

1886
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 3: he's on like a long term deal. I don't know

1887
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 3: what is, but I do think they're going to find

1888
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 3: a coaching more experience, or they're going to hire you

1889
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 3: a fleet of assistants who have experience and help him out.

1890
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't think he'll be in the same capacity,

1891
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 3: just kind of buy himself on the island as a

1892
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 3: coach that he was this year.

1893
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 2: You're not going to believe this. I just got a

1894
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 2: text for my brother. He's telling me Amtrak from New

1895
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 2: York City to Philadelphia now round trip two hundred bucks,

1896
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 2: two hundred dollars. I think fourteen dollars round trip.

1897
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 3: I think you're dating yourself. Do you like, wow, fourteen

1898
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 3: dollars round trip? Huh?

1899
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 2: I mean really, I don't think I was that old.

1900
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 2: I mean, did the prices increase that much? Probably so,

1901
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 2: I guess, I don't know. I just I don't know.

1902
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 2: It was just seven dollars. I got on the train.

1903
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 3: I've only been I've been on the last time was

1904
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 3: on a train was in London to Paris, and otherwise

1905
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 3: only I've been on training. Like so as a child,

1906
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 3: I'm not I never took a train really anywhere.

1907
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 2: I like going Amtrak. It's it's kind of fun.

1908
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 3: It really like get on the East Coast like you.

1909
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 3: But you wouldn't run a train from LA to San Francisco.

1910
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 3: It's two fun.

1911
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 2: Well, I tell you what. You know. When I worked

1912
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,919
Speaker 2: on a local radio in Cincinnati, and when the Cincinnati

1913
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 2: Reds had spring training in Florida and out there in Arizona.

1914
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:36,719
Speaker 2: When they were in Florida, I would take the Amtrak

1915
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 2: from Cincinnati to Florida for spring training. It was great.

1916
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 2: It was real ax. You sit, you get a sleep

1917
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 2: of car, there's a shower in the car, the food's great.

1918
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 2: I'd rather take the train. It's just it's just one

1919
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,640
Speaker 2: of those quirks, you know. I mean, anybody could fly

1920
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 2: just to train, you see America. It's beautiful. It took

1921
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 2: about eighteen hours.

1922
01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 3: I don't have the attention span to be able to

1923
01:31:59,240 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 3: train that long.

1924
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 2: It is rough, it's it's rough, eighteen hours, it days,

1925
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 2: it's it's kind of crazy.

1926
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 3: It is, yeah, too much, it really is.

1927
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 2: But you're getting back to the Celtic situation. I mean,

1928
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 2: I just think that you know, we haven't even touched

1929
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,719
Speaker 2: on this guy because he hasn't done anything Al Horford?

1930
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 2: What has he done? What is Al Horford done? Look,

1931
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 2: there comes a time when it's time to hang up

1932
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 2: to Jersey, and now I gotta tell you, I think

1933
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:23,560
Speaker 2: it's that time. You know, you gave him some some

1934
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:26,440
Speaker 2: minutes last year. I don't see what you've done whatsoever

1935
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,520
Speaker 2: in the playoffs this year. He's not he's not rebounding,

1936
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 2: he's not giving you any offense. Why is he playing?

1937
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 2: You got to shake something up because your backs against

1938
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 2: the wall. They must win today. If they win today,

1939
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 2: this life there is life if they win today.

1940
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:43,640
Speaker 3: I think the issue is that you know who is

1941
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 3: playing instead of Al Horford? Right? A gay like you?

1942
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 2: You need you need the high eight. I get it,

1943
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 2: I get it.

1944
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 3: You just you hope that Horford shooting comes back, but

1945
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 3: he's also thirty seven, come as a lebron and play

1946
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 3: a lot of basketball. It's some at some point you

1947
01:32:57,600 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 3: just aren't as good anymore.

1948
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 2: Rob Williams is great that you gotta.

1949
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 3: Horford just can't shoot right now. He's not.

1950
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 2: They're shooting threes. I'm watching him.

1951
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 3: He's out there, he's not mean that's the game now though,

1952
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 3: right That bothers me too, it really does.

1953
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 2: But again, I don't understand how the Celtics can be

1954
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:15,759
Speaker 2: favored today.

1955
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 3: I explain that to me, Well there, I mean, they're

1956
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 3: they're they're better, like just in on paper. And I

1957
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 3: think people probably say, like, there's no chance they can

1958
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 3: continue to be this bad in closing out games.

1959
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, pretty big. And the games have been

1960
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 2: closed and not have like blowouts. So maybe I just

1961
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 2: don't understand it. Maybe uh. And I think some of

1962
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 2: the odds makers are going with the with the the

1963
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 2: seating because remember like this, Miami, dude, Miami. If you

1964
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 2: look at statistics, they're the only team I think since

1965
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 2: way back who knows when to come into the playoffs

1966
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 2: with a negative point differential. That's an amazing stack. They

1967
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 2: had a negative point. They were six games over five

1968
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 2: hundred for the regular season and had a negative point differential,

1969
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 2: and they're on the verge of going to the finals

1970
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 2: and they lost.

1971
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 3: Their first the first playing game right for the Uh. Yeah,

1972
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 3: it's a pretty remarkable their ability to turn on Tyler

1973
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 3: heroes not in there as well, like they have missing

1974
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 3: a shooter. I think that they if they were to

1975
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 3: get past Boston, I think their journey ends very quickly

1976
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 3: with the Nuggets. Like with you you that game is

1977
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 3: that serious is going to be.

1978
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 2: And I'm running for the Nugget, not because to look

1979
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 2: at me. I think Joker. I mean many people hear

1980
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 2: about him, but they don't see him. And I think

1981
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 2: that he truly is the MVP. If if I had

1982
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 2: my choice starting a team today, if someone said you

1983
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 2: got two picks, Joker or Joel Embiid, I'm going with Joker.

1984
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 2: He's my guy.

1985
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, he's more available, he does more things right,

1986
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:51,440
Speaker 3: his ability to pass and touch your offense. I'm not defensively,

1987
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 3: you know, there's some liabilities there as well, but nonetheless

1988
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 3: his he makes up for it with his ability to

1989
01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 3: move the ball.

1990
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 2: I mean he's a guy that looked it looks to

1991
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 2: pass first and shoot.

1992
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 3: One of the You know, I think one of the

1993
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 3: things that makes them fun to watch is the passing,

1994
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 3: right is the It's what it makes the Warriors fun

1995
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 3: to watch too, is the ball just never stays in

1996
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 3: someone's hands very long, and it starts with him. The

1997
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 3: ball goes to him, he's looking to pass. If not,

1998
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 3: he's making an offensive move and then boom pass, boom shot.

1999
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 3: There's just a lot of so entertaining style of basketball

2000
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:23,720
Speaker 3: they play.

2001
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 2: It is I think Robin Williams is the difference making

2002
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 2: for the bosson celt He's got to play. He's got

2003
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 2: to play a lot of minutes.

2004
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 3: And more than that, I think hurts like, isn't there some.

2005
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 2: He could play? I watch him play and look they

2006
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 2: they play a seven man rotation. You got to use

2007
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 2: more guys. You got to play well, you got to

2008
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 2: play eight nine guys.

2009
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 3: You just have to.

2010
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 2: I mean, really, but you're playing seven guys and Robert

2011
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 2: Williams is not playing. So I just say that if

2012
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 2: they shake things up, I will tell you if they lose,

2013
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 2: I think that Missoula's gone. I really believe that.

2014
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:57,600
Speaker 3: I think you're I think you're probably right about that.

2015
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just he just couldn't do it, couldn't. We'll see,

2016
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 2: all right, Jeff Schwartz, Andy Furman, get us on Twitter.

2017
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 2: You have some comments at Jeff Schwartz, at Andy Furman

2018
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 2: FSR or Betty Yet. We'd love to hear your Golden

2019
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 2: Tones eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That translates

2020
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 2: to eight seven seven nine nine six six ' three

2021
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,640
Speaker 2: sixth nimes. We've got the blame game at the end

2022
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 2: of this album. Right now, one NFL coach found the

2023
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 2: flaw in his quarterback. That's next. Could he be the man? Well,

2024
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 2: we'll tell you about that in just about a minute.

2025
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio Live

2026
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 2: from the ti iraq dot com studios. He's Jeff Schwartz

2027
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 2: and I'm Andy Furman, and we've talked about the San

2028
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine is at length. Then we said that

2029
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 2: they may very well be the best team in the NFC.

2030
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:46,600
Speaker 2: But again, that's kind of an odd ball thing to

2031
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 2: say because we don't know who their quarterback is. Isn't

2032
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 2: that correct?

2033
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 3: I can't recall a team that has been this loaded

2034
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 3: without a quarterback. Right you look at the best off

2035
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 3: taking football they have the best power struturand football. They

2036
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 3: have the best linebacker in football. They have maybe the

2037
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 3: best running back in football. They have maybe the best

2038
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 3: dual kind of you know, slash player in Deebo Samuel

2039
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 3: in the NFL. Like they have all the best of

2040
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:19,679
Speaker 3: all these things and have no quarterback, and no one's

2041
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 3: giving them a chance to beat the Eagles, at least

2042
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:24,600
Speaker 3: obviously at the moment because of that reason.

2043
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 2: And Brock Party may not be ready to mid season that.

2044
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,679
Speaker 3: Look, do you think County is not on the Brock Party?

2045
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 3: Is Tom Brady train? Like he's just he's not. He

2046
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 3: played well last year in a situation where everything was

2047
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 3: going well for the team, right, They they ran the

2048
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 3: ball well, they played good defense. When he was in there,

2049
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 3: he wasn't asked to do terribly much. And I was

2050
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 3: actually looking forward to see him in the playoff game

2051
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:55,600
Speaker 3: on the road. Have to show, like, you know, do

2052
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,559
Speaker 3: you have what it takes to win these playoff games?

2053
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 3: But I just don't. We have to stop as sports fans.

2054
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 3: And I know it's hard because it's fun to talk

2055
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 3: about the what IFFs, but most quarterbacks in the NFL,

2056
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 3: they are drafted in the first or second round. Most

2057
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 3: franchise guys, there's some Alart's cousins, Dak, Russell Wilson. You

2058
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 3: have one zero, by the way in that group, and

2059
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:22,719
Speaker 3: you have like you know you have outside of Wilson,

2060
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 3: you have what two playoff wins all coming from Dak.

2061
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:28,600
Speaker 3: Most guys are drafted in the first second round. That

2062
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 3: are factors quarterbacks. To believe that Brock Purdy as a

2063
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 3: seventh round pick yet not even sixth round pick, seventh

2064
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 3: round pick is going to come in there and win

2065
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 3: them a championship is just not really of reality in

2066
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:45,639
Speaker 3: my opinion.

2067
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 2: Well, that leaves Trey Lance the first round from a

2068
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 2: year ago, and reports now say he's looked like the

2069
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 2: best quarterback on the O season workouts. He underwent. Worked

2070
01:38:56,080 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 2: with a private quarterback coach, Jeff Christensen, a private about coach.

2071
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,719
Speaker 2: It also works with Patrick Mahomes, and Mahome said he's impressed.

2072
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 2: He said, Lance required, get this, a drastic adjustment of

2073
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 2: his throwing motion. Why now, why, after all these years

2074
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 2: of playing football, playing college football, now all of a sudden,

2075
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 2: Jeff Christensen says, a throwing motion adjustment. How does that end?

2076
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 3: Well, he doesn't played a lot of football Trey Lance hasn't.

2077
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 3: And there are times, especially when you're very successful as

2078
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 3: a young player, that you do not think like, oh,

2079
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 3: I need private coaching, or you went to a private

2080
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:33,640
Speaker 3: coach and that coach didn't change anything for you. And

2081
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 3: then you go to someone else because you figure out like, man,

2082
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 3: I just need to start doing it and need to

2083
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 3: start taking care of my career. You go to a

2084
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 3: new guy like Christiansen and he goes, look, man, we

2085
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 3: got to fix your throwing motion, and you listen to him, right,

2086
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:48,640
Speaker 3: because up to that point, again, you've been so successful

2087
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 3: you haven't felt the need to see someone like him. Now.

2088
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 3: The throwing motion great, great, great fixes, but that doesn't

2089
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:02,680
Speaker 3: fix the process issues, right and maybe if it's in

2090
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 3: the accuracy issue, So does this in turn make him,

2091
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 3: you know, like a better quarterback. We'll find out, won't we.

2092
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 3: But I got to see before believe it.

2093
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 1: Well.

2094
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he's going to be in line to start.

2095
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 2: I mean Garoppolo he was injured as well, but you

2096
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 2: know they say.

2097
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 3: That he Donald baby Sam Donald nine ers a week

2098
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 3: one starting quarterback. No, you're not buying it.

2099
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 2: It would be nice to see him get a shot

2100
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 2: in and make up for what happened in the I

2101
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 2: know it would be nice to see that, and I

2102
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 2: don't think give him the chance. But they said Christiansen

2103
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 2: said that working with Trey Lance, his arm would become

2104
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 2: tender too quickly. Whatever the hell that means, I don't know,

2105
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 2: but he said it took about Yeah. I guess he

2106
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 2: usually takes a day to diagnose the quarterbacks delivery. He

2107
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:50,240
Speaker 2: explained that, but with Lance, it took four days and

2108
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 2: eventually the quarterbacks entire throwing motion became more efficient. So

2109
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 2: maybe we'll see. Maybe it's a possibility. Maybe he's the guy.

2110
01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 2: They did put a lot of stock in him by

2111
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 2: drafting where he did. But again, I look at drafting

2112
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 2: a player not so much for skill set, but where

2113
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:06,719
Speaker 2: he played. He played it in a no name school

2114
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 2: that has hurt.

2115
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 3: And maybe we've had Super Bowl champions that played at

2116
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 3: lower tier schools quarterbacks, I mean not, you know, I mean,

2117
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 3: is Miami of Ohio where Big Ben went? Does that

2118
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:22,080
Speaker 3: consider a.

2119
01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:24,679
Speaker 2: That that's a you know, like lightning in a bottle

2120
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 2: that'll never happen?

2121
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:28,679
Speaker 3: I mean Joe Flacco Delaware, Yeah.

2122
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:30,679
Speaker 2: But therese are few and far between.

2123
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:36,560
Speaker 3: I just I don't know if the NFL now is

2124
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 3: you know, drafts on ability right more than production college

2125
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 3: production like Anthony Rigisson type right. And Trey Lance was

2126
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 3: drafted on the ability and the upside. And I agree

2127
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 3: with you. He didn't play very much, like there's not

2128
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 3: much film of him at North Dakota State, but and

2129
01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 3: I would not have drafted him that high by the

2130
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:03,920
Speaker 3: way record, but that many times overall. However, that's why

2131
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 3: teams draft. They draft off of ability, natural gifts, and

2132
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 3: they're hope they can mold you into what they want

2133
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 3: you to be. It's a lot different now than it

2134
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 3: was ten, fifteen, twenty years ago.

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Speaker 2: You know, I will say this, as good as the

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01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 2: forty nine ers are, they just need a quarterback who's

2137
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 2: not going to turn the ball over. Seriously, I mean

2138
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 2: they don't need a superstar quarterback to go far and

2139
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 2: deep in the playoffs. That's my thought.

2140
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:29,599
Speaker 3: Are they rest? They are? They called? How many times

2141
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 3: they call him tom Brady? Oh? They've called him?

2142
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 2: So, I mean that's never gonna happen. Tom Brady's not

2143
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 2: gonna play again.

2144
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 3: Do you think he isn't? I don't know. I don't

2145
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:42,679
Speaker 3: think so, But I mean they got it John murch

2146
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,559
Speaker 3: has got to be calling him a couple of times, right, like, hey, man,

2147
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 3: are you sure you're you're done playing?

2148
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:48,800
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2149
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 2: I just I don't see that happening, I really do.

2150
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 2: I just think that the personnel is so good and

2151
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 2: so deep in San Francisco. Just get a quarterback that

2152
01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 2: won't turn the ball over. It's very functionable, and I

2153
01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 2: think they'll win. I really do.

2154
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 3: If they get a quarterback, they will win. They have

2155
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 3: the ability to do that. They're well coached, but they

2156
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:08,599
Speaker 3: just are missing their guy.

2157
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 2: I almost see what happed. But again, I mean, I

2158
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 2: guess you you want to see Sam Donald get the job.

2159
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 4: Huh.

2160
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:15,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to see it. I think it's a

2161
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 3: good story. It would be a great story rooting for that.

2162
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:20,800
Speaker 3: But I think we all kind of root for guys

2163
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 3: that have redemption stories, right to get a second chance.

2164
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 2: You're exactly right, yes, all right, he's Jeff Schwartz. I

2165
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 2: meany Furman. We are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready,

2166
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 2: you know, whe they're the leader of this team may

2167
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 2: be gone, but don't count this team out. That's next.

2168
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 2: But first to our leader, Nick Cope, with all your

2169
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 2: sports all.

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, you guys are just talking about Sam Donald

2171
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 5: being only twenty five years old. He is less than

2172
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:48,719
Speaker 5: a year older than both Hendon Hooker and Stetson Bennett.

2173
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 5: But Sam Donald is about to begin his sixth year

2174
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Speaker 5: in the NFL. That sounded yeah, yeah wild. Anyways, let's

2175
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:00,240
Speaker 5: get you up to speed on the NBA day for

2176
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 5: Nuggets a wit away from the NBA Finals one nineteen

2177
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 5: to one way to win over the Lakers last night.

2178
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 5: Now a three to zero series lead, Nuggets have won

2179
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 5: a five straight playoff games. Jamal Murray the star with

2180
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 5: thirty seven points. Nikoley Jokich had to endure some foul trouble,

2181
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 5: but he finished with twenty four points, six rebounds, eight assists.

2182
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 5: Anthony Davis led the Lakers with a double double twenty

2183
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:25,559
Speaker 5: eight points and eighteen rebounds. Lebron James also a double

2184
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:29,879
Speaker 5: double twenty three points and twelve assists. Stanley Cup Playoffs

2185
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 5: Eastern Conference Final Matthew Kuchunk scored the overtime winner for

2186
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 5: the Panthers for the second straight game. This time, instead

2187
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 5: of it taking four overtimes, Panthers scored less than two

2188
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 5: minutes into the first overtime yesterday two to one. Over

2189
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 5: the Hurricanes Florida down with the two OHO series lead,

2190
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 5: final round of the PGA Championship coming up today, brooks

2191
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 5: Kepka has a one shot lead at six under Victor

2192
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:56,599
Speaker 5: Honflin and Corey Conner's one shot back bryceon De Shambeau

2193
01:44:56,720 --> 01:45:00,120
Speaker 5: three backs. Scottie Scheffler sits four off the pace to

2194
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 5: rain much of the day yesterday. Weather is clear today

2195
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 5: at Rochester. Leaders will get going in the two pm

2196
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:10,640
Speaker 5: Eastern hour. In bo Scene, Devin Haney retained his undisputed

2197
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 5: lightweight championship with a unanimous decision over Vasili Lomtchenko. And

2198
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 5: in horse racing, National Treasure won the Preakness. A horse

2199
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:23,759
Speaker 5: trained by Bob Baffort Kentucky Derby champion Maje finish in third.

2200
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 5: And as we send a bank here to Jeff Schwartz

2201
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:27,680
Speaker 5: and Andy Furman. Andy, I don't want to derail what

2202
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:29,439
Speaker 5: you got coming up, but I am curious. I know

2203
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:32,640
Speaker 5: you're horse racing guy, what's up with the Preakness? Just

2204
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 5: kind of floating?

2205
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:38,439
Speaker 2: I know that it seems like there's never any seven eight,

2206
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,560
Speaker 2: you know, signed Duran seven and only one run of

2207
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,479
Speaker 2: the Derby, So right now, I think the Preakness is

2208
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 2: it's on this list. Hate to say this term legs

2209
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 2: if you will, I mean really, I mean you're not

2210
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 2: having horses or quality horses running in the event. No

2211
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 2: Derby horses are running there, and certainly if a Derby

2212
01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:58,959
Speaker 2: horse is not going to run there, there's no excitement

2213
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 2: for the Triple Crown. It's certainly the Triple The Derby

2214
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:06,240
Speaker 2: winner finished third and there's no Triple Crown winner this year.

2215
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 2: So it did the Preakness right now, I think is

2216
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 2: in a bad way.

2217
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean it. And then they're putting horses

2218
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 3: down every day of the track. It seems like it

2219
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 3: seems like horse racing is it's gonna last much longer.

2220
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, ma'am.

2221
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 2: You know the last time only one Kentucky Derby contender

2222
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 2: went onto the Preakness was nineteen forty eight when Citation

2223
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 2: beat three New Shooters in the middle race of the

2224
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 2: Triple Crown. That's not good, not good for it, because

2225
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:40,680
Speaker 2: I think that, you know, breeding is more important and

2226
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:45,640
Speaker 2: more money venturists than just racing racist to breed though, right,

2227
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 2: no doubt, yeah, no doubt about Yeah, they're doing So

2228
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens.

2229
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:49,600
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2230
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 2: Thank you, Nick. We move on all right now. This

2231
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,680
Speaker 2: may be more with less and we'll get to it

2232
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 2: right now. But he's Jeff Schwartz im Andy Ferman that

2233
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Speaker 2: the blame game coming up in about six seven minutes

2238
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 2: from now. And I got a tweet here from Peter Vesse,

2239
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame basketball rider, and this is right

2240
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 2: up your rally, he says, I make a practice. He says,

2241
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 2: never to listen to NBA pregame shows. However, I mistakenly

2242
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 2: saw muted Jamal Murray on the court being interviewed prior

2243
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 2: to Game three. If I'm an NBA coach, there is

2244
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,959
Speaker 2: no way possible my players are going to be disturbed

2245
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 2: prior to a playoff game, especially of this magnitude. He's

2246
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 2: the first guy I've ever heard in media saying this,

2247
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:45,720
Speaker 2: and really and truly these interviews say nothing anyway. You

2248
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 2: know what do you feel about that. As far as

2249
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 2: players speaking to the media prior to a big game,

2250
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,759
Speaker 2: and have you had coaches telling you prior to games,

2251
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 2: I don't want you talking to the media, Well.

2252
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 3: You can't it anymore because it is now part of

2253
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 3: the action, right, It's now part of you know, every

2254
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 3: player is upbringing now is in the media.

2255
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:08,599
Speaker 8: Right.

2256
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 3: The media is the thing and the access to the

2257
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:16,840
Speaker 3: access is what fans crave. And so you might say, oh, yeah,

2258
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:18,560
Speaker 3: I would never let my guys do, but this is

2259
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 3: the sport now, like this is this is part of

2260
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 3: part of this is the NBA media deal, right, it's

2261
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:29,799
Speaker 3: in the media deal. Like the PAC twelve just announced

2262
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 3: this week that they are going to do some of

2263
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 3: these things next year. They're going to have in person

2264
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 3: interviews of players and coaches, They're going to make up guys,

2265
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 3: all these things. And it's for fan access. It's for

2266
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 3: fans to be able to share social media e clips.

2267
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 3: It's for fans to be able to hear their favorite players.

2268
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:52,720
Speaker 3: And players now are so used to it, like there's

2269
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 3: not it's it's nothing to them. They talk to me

2270
01:48:56,840 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 3: all the time. Murray probably even care about He's just

2271
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 3: sitting warming up I didn't see the clip, but the

2272
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 3: Parkers warming up talking ball like they have. The players

2273
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 3: have no problem doing this, and the coaches have accepted this.

2274
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 8: Right.

2275
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's also coaches that probably don't like their players

2276
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 3: on social media so much and blah blah blah.

2277
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 2: All have more of an old school thing.

2278
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 3: This is fair, This is the way, Yes, this is

2279
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 3: for sure. This is the way things are now, and

2280
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:23,639
Speaker 3: people have accepted that that are part of the game.

2281
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:24,560
Speaker 3: I hear you.

2282
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 2: Okay, we get that out of the way. But I

2283
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 2: want to talk about Aaron Rodgers. I don't really want

2284
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 2: to talk about I want to mention. Okay, he's gonna

2285
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 2: be gone if he's done with the Jets, no longer

2286
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 2: with the Green Bay Packers. But many odd makers still

2287
01:49:36,160 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 2: feel good about the Green Bay Packers, especially with the

2288
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 2: season predicted win total over seven and a half games. Now,

2289
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 2: I got the Bears at seven and a half in

2290
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 2: that division, Lions at nine and a half, Packers seven

2291
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 2: and a half, Vikings eight and a half, and the

2292
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 2: expectations may be lower than in the past for the

2293
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 2: Packers because Jordan loves the quarterback. He's untested obviously in

2294
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:57,599
Speaker 2: the NFL, but the League obviously believes in the green

2295
01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 2: Bay Packers. They got five prime time games Thanksgiving game

2296
01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 2: with the line should be a biggie. Why is so

2297
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 2: much positive with the Green Bay Packers.

2298
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 3: Well, I think we've seen the continued success for the Packers,

2299
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 3: right and there's there's hopes that they do they also

2300
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 3: have they have a very good roster. It's better than

2301
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 3: you think. The question is, you know, is is the quarterback?

2302
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 3: And the reports out of Green Bay aren't great out

2303
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:34,720
Speaker 3: of the spring, like, yeah, there's still some work to

2304
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:37,600
Speaker 3: be done. It's this fourth year now, if there is

2305
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 3: work to be done, and there's this kind of like

2306
01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 3: hey everyone, like you know, just don't be alarmed if

2307
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 3: Jordan Love starts slow this year. It's like, oh, Penn State,

2308
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 3: that's yeah, he's not gonna play. But like you, you

2309
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 3: want to hear that Jordan Love is kicking butt right

2310
01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 3: now and there's no concerns, no issues, nothing at all.

2311
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 3: And I don't I don't think we're hearing that, and

2312
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:03,080
Speaker 3: that should concern you in my opinion.

2313
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 2: All right now, I'm gonna do the Jeff Schwartz theory.

2314
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 2: I listened to what you said because when I look

2315
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 2: at teams and how are they're gonna do I look

2316
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 2: at the schedule. Don't want to do that. Quarterbacks. So

2317
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 2: the season with the Green Bay Packers starts with the Bears, Falcon,

2318
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 2: Saints and Lions, which means, according to the Jeff Schwartz theory,

2319
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 2: it means justin fields, Desmond Ritter, Derek Carr, and Jared Goff,

2320
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 2: which is pretty good.

2321
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:26,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're looking I mean you're looking at at at

2322
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 3: least I would say two and two. There at three

2323
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:31,599
Speaker 3: and one, you feel probably pretty good, right, yeah, four

2324
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:34,439
Speaker 3: and oh obviously, but but but again you look at

2325
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 3: you have to look at the same way when it

2326
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:39,800
Speaker 3: comes to you know, to the Packers, right, the Saints

2327
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 3: are gonna look at it as like we have Derek

2328
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 3: Carr against Jordan Love. We should win that actually, right,

2329
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:47,800
Speaker 3: if you're the Lions, Jared Goff played better than Jordan

2330
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:50,320
Speaker 3: Love last year. If you're the Lions, you think yourself, well,

2331
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 3: Jordan Love, you know Jordan Love, he's Jared Goff berter

2332
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 3: than Jordan Love. Like that's the way you think about

2333
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 3: these things too.

2334
01:51:56,840 --> 01:52:00,320
Speaker 2: I think Jordan Love will be pulled after four games. No,

2335
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:03,600
Speaker 2: you can't do that, really, what you know, what you

2336
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 2: still have to me going to stay with him.

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01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has to playoff season. He needs a full

2338
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 3: season to evaluate. It'd be unfair to get rid of

2339
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 3: aout the four games. Wow.

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01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:13,479
Speaker 2: See that's that's strange. I thought they would just pull him.

2341
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 3: No, No, he gets so he gets an entire season

2342
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 3: no matter what.

2343
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:20,559
Speaker 2: All right, And do you think they'll be better than

2344
01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 2: seven and a half wins? That's the key.

2345
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:37,040
Speaker 3: I don't hm. I would My initial take would be under.

2346
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:40,599
Speaker 3: I think, huh, seven and ten? I need a number.

2347
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 3: The thing about the win totals is you have to

2348
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 3: I think, in my opinion feels strongly and either way

2349
01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 3: to bet it. I don't. If I was wagering, well,

2350
01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:51,280
Speaker 3: I Wouldn'm not waging the Packers win total. I don't feel.

2351
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 3: I feel the number is pretty good. Seven half is

2352
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:56,760
Speaker 3: pretty good, right, seven nine wins that's about where they're

2353
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 3: gonna be at.

2354
01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 2: I don't know which is a hot A wager seven

2355
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 2: and a half wins for the Packers or nine and

2356
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:03,560
Speaker 2: a half wins for the Lions. That's a hell of

2357
01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 2: a lot of wins for the Detroit Lions.

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01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 3: I would lean. I would lean under the Lions because

2359
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 3: of Goth I don't really expect another year of the same,

2360
01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:13,680
Speaker 3: the same. And I don't like their draft. I know

2361
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 3: that doesn't really matter very much maybe to this, but

2362
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 3: like their philosophy on the draft was just not great.

2363
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, okay, Now now I'm excited because it's

2364
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 2: almost time for the blame game. I enjoy that with you,

2365
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 2: So we move on, all right, Jeff Schwartz, Andy Furman,

2366
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:29,640
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sun there and Fox Sports Radio. It is

2367
01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 2: time the point fingers why the blame game is next?

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01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 2: The blame game coming right up. It is the blame

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01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 2: game right here in Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz,

2370
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm Andy Furman. Of course, we're doing it live from

2371
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:45,639
Speaker 2: the tiraq dot Com studios and top of the Hours

2372
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 2: about twelve minutes from now nine o'clock on the East Coast.

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01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 2: The dynamic duo of Mike Harmon and Dan Byer will

2374
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 2: join you on these airways right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:56,720
Speaker 2: But right now, it's time to play the blame game.

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01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 7: You ruin me.

2377
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 2: It's all your fault. No, it's your fault.

2378
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 3: If it's all your fault, fault.

2379
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 2: Maybe it's everyone's fault.

2380
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:12,720
Speaker 1: He's a liar, that's why there's the let's figure out

2381
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 1: who to blame.

2382
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:17,760
Speaker 2: Who's a liar, who's that loudmouth? Anyway, it's time to play.

2383
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 2: Here's that guy, the big ee.

2384
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:22,799
Speaker 4: Let's play, all right, guys. A lot of news current

2385
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 4: news for this week. The Lakers are down three nothing

2386
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 4: to the Nuggets. Many people didn't think this would happen,

2387
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 4: a sweep could happen. Who is to blame for this?

2388
01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 4: In the Los Angeles Lakers franchise?

2389
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:39,600
Speaker 3: I mean, if we're looking at like the roster is

2390
01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:41,400
Speaker 3: not good enough, it's part of the general manager, right,

2391
01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:45,320
Speaker 3: which is Lebron I guess I mean Polinka, it's not

2392
01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:48,840
Speaker 3: good enough, right, And yeah, I.

2393
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 2: Would say, you know what, you say that the team

2394
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 2: is not as good as Denford.

2395
01:54:52,120 --> 01:54:56,840
Speaker 3: That's right, is fine, That is fine, But like, if

2396
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 3: we're looking for a blame, it's the team's not good

2397
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 3: enough and the blame has to go to the general manager.

2398
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:03,160
Speaker 2: And I will tell you this much. I think the

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01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 2: only time you put blame on a team is when

2400
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 2: there's expectations. And I don't think there are great expectations

2401
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 2: for the LA Lakers, So I don't think there's much

2402
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 2: blame to go around, right, Yeah.

2403
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 3: It's not like it. Correct. Blame signifies I mean like error,

2404
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 3: right and failure failure to your point, like the Lakers

2405
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 3: are I mean getting rid of Westbrook change their season,

2406
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:29,840
Speaker 3: so so blaming the general manager feels not fair because

2407
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:34,480
Speaker 3: you get rid of Westbrook. But that is Yeah, they're

2408
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 3: knocking the winkers are good enough.

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01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 2: If I would tell you one thing to blame, perhaps

2410
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 2: maybe it's a stretch, the fact that there's been so

2411
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:43,160
Speaker 2: many injuries with a d and Lebron and other players,

2412
01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 2: they haven't had a unit to play together. Maybe that's

2413
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 2: a problem as.

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01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 3: Well, that it's not the general manager's fault.

2415
01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 2: The eighties, Oh no, no, that's not yeah, right, so

2416
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 2: we leave it there. That was not that good, biggie.

2417
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 2: I mean, really, if you want to get blame, somebody,

2418
01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 2: get tough. Blame, point a finger, put it in their chest.

2419
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:01,640
Speaker 3: Somebody blaming people.

2420
01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:02,840
Speaker 2: We'll start doing it right right.

2421
01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 9: Were not afraid I was gonna blame Lebron.

2422
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 3: I was on. No, that's boring. They're gonna blame Lebron

2423
01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 3: plenty tomorrow at all the time.

2424
01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:16,760
Speaker 2: Just like blaming your grandfather. He's a senior citizen. Leave

2425
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 2: them alone. Take a social security as well. As a paycheck.

2426
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 2: Here we go.

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01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 4: You were talking about this before the preakness of viewership,

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01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 4: uh that it's down eight percent this year. Who's to

2429
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:31,840
Speaker 4: blame for this? There's got to be a person to

2430
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 4: blame for this. I mean, I know you're talking about

2431
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 4: the horses, and then you.

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01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:39,080
Speaker 3: Blame the actual horses, screw your horses, and you answered

2433
01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:39,960
Speaker 3: this question. I have no idea.

2434
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 4: You know what.

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01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:44,080
Speaker 2: I would blame the fact that the growth in wagering.

2436
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 2: You know, it used to be really the only place

2437
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 2: you could wager was at a horse track. Now you

2438
01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 2: could wager on your phone on any any situation at all.

2439
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 2: I'm watching baseball games on TV and after the second

2440
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:57,840
Speaker 2: inning they say you could been on the second inning.

2441
01:56:58,200 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's crazy. So I think that that

2442
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 2: hurt because there's an excitement that goes along with wager.

2443
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:06,560
Speaker 3: You know that you do some hit, right, I think? Yeah?

2444
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:09,240
Speaker 3: I actually had one wager yesterday. I had. I did

2445
01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 3: a head to head. I took Blazing the sevens and

2446
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:15,120
Speaker 3: like plus one sixty over National Treasure was minus one

2447
01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 3: eighty five. I had to head matchup. I lost by

2448
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 3: a freaking nose. That sounds a pretty good wager it's

2449
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:20,920
Speaker 3: good value in the plus one sixty there they had

2450
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:27,080
Speaker 3: to head. Nonetheless, the horses keep dying on the track,

2451
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:28,800
Speaker 3: Like I hate to bring this back up again, like

2452
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 3: if you are, if you keep if you're following on

2453
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:36,680
Speaker 3: social media, any sort of sport. Every time this, you know,

2454
01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 3: the Preakness comes out the Derby, the headlines are, yeah,

2455
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:44,080
Speaker 3: seven horses died in a week in Kentucky, right, a

2456
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 3: horse was put down before the race because they broke

2457
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 3: their leg on and a jocums to the hospital yesterday

2458
01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 3: before the running of the Preakness. I don't know. I

2459
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,600
Speaker 3: don't think those storylines don't help people watch the sport

2460
01:57:57,800 --> 01:57:59,200
Speaker 3: it happened. I mean, they should report all.

2461
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 2: And racing is. I'm not going to knock the predus

2462
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 2: because the Pregdous remains high on the list of the

2463
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 2: one of the most prestigious races that every owner and

2464
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 2: trainer really wants to win. So it's right up there,

2465
01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:11,680
Speaker 2: right near the Derby. But it was common years ago

2466
01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:14,400
Speaker 2: for horses to win a lot more times than they

2467
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 2: do now. And I mentioned like the horse citation, the

2468
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:21,560
Speaker 2: nineteen forty eight triple current winner had fifteen races under

2469
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 2: his Belt before the Kentucky Derby. That doesn't happen anymore,

2470
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 2: and it just don't race anymore.

2471
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 3: And I also think when you have a trainer suspended

2472
01:58:29,480 --> 01:58:32,760
Speaker 3: for a year, right in Bob Bafford for juicing his horses, right,

2473
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:35,440
Speaker 3: is that why he was suspended? Yes, okay, and he

2474
01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 3: comes back and immediately wins the first race he comes back.

2475
01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:41,120
Speaker 3: I know that he's won. This is his record eighth

2476
01:58:41,160 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 3: pregnis he's won, which.

2477
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 2: I does a shadow over that.

2478
01:58:44,120 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 3: But you're like, ooh, like the guy that just came

2479
01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 3: back because he was juicing horses.

2480
01:58:49,360 --> 01:58:50,960
Speaker 2: When I look up Bob Bafford, I want to take

2481
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 2: a shower. He's slimy.

2482
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 3: So it's just it's also just a bad look for

2483
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:59,200
Speaker 3: the sport that that that's the guy that wins, wins,

2484
01:58:59,240 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 3: the wins the right.

2485
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:01,320
Speaker 2: You're exactly right.

2486
01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:04,200
Speaker 9: So clearly horse racing needs to figure it out.

2487
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:08,320
Speaker 3: I don't really, you know, I don't. I don't think

2488
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:10,800
Speaker 3: that's a figuring out thing. I really think that now

2489
01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:16,640
Speaker 3: it's where society is at. It's horse racing. Racing of

2490
01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:21,280
Speaker 3: animals is not something that people like, right.

2491
01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 9: I hear you here, You don't hear him, all right,

2492
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 9: last one before we get off.

2493
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2494
01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:31,800
Speaker 4: Now, a lot of people the narrative is joa morant,

2495
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 4: it's his fault. But you know it's people you surround

2496
01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:41,760
Speaker 4: yourself with. Is you know, kind of your identity. So

2497
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:46,280
Speaker 4: would you say there's anybody to blame besides Jah himself.

2498
01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:46,960
Speaker 3: The people around him.

2499
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 2: Yes, And you know who I blame. I blame Adam

2500
01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:52,720
Speaker 2: Silva because if he had a pair of hanging downs,

2501
01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:55,960
Speaker 2: he's suspended for the season. Suspending for the season. You know,

2502
01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:58,240
Speaker 2: no one player is bigger than the NBA. I know

2503
01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:00,520
Speaker 2: it would never happened. He suspended a eight games.

2504
02:00:00,680 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 3: And what did he do?

2505
02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:04,200
Speaker 2: Moran spit in Silver's face, That's what he did.

2506
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:05,680
Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 2: See you next week, guys, God bless you.