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Speaker 2: off right now. Jets at the Bills, Raiders at the Saints,

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Speaker 2: Colts at the Giants, Cowboys at the Eagles, Panthers at

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Speaker 2: the Buccaneers, Titans at the Jaguars, and well, Richie, it's

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Speaker 2: been a very busy week around the NFL. You know,

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Speaker 2: we had games on Wednesday, had game on Thursday, we

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Speaker 2: had games yesterday, and we still have six games this

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Speaker 2: morning as we are coming to the end of Week seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Still a few things to be cited as far as

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Speaker 2: the playoffs are concerned. But this has been a very

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Speaker 2: interesting week. Indeed, we got a lot to talk about

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Speaker 2: it about teams that you know, we made our predictions

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Speaker 2: Richie before the season on which teams would make the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: which teams would not make the playoffs, and once again

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, there have been plenty of surprises.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're certainly haveving, like you said, a lot of

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Speaker 3: interesting results as we wandered our way through Christmas week,

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Speaker 3: and everybody is, you know, put in the glazed ham leftovers,

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Speaker 3: probably out on the counter for one final time today

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Speaker 3: before they throw it in the trash again, and maybe

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Speaker 3: taking down the Christmas trees as we get ready for

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Speaker 3: some real playoff football, because the implications are there. There

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Speaker 3: are teams jockeying for higher seeds, there are teams who

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Speaker 3: are still jockeying for a playoff position in the wild card.

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Speaker 3: We've got a lot still to be decided, like you mentioned.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: In fact, it's very interesting because I have been reporting

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Speaker 2: in LATV all week that the Rams would clinch a

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Speaker 2: playoff spot with a victory against the Cardinals, which they accomplished.

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Speaker 2: They didn't clinch their playoff spot. So, in one of

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Speaker 2: the most bizarre things I've ever heard of before, there

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Speaker 2: is some scenario of a mixture of games that still

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Speaker 2: gives Seattle like a one percent chance of making the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: I could sit here and try to explain it.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, strength of scheduling and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: But there's still an outside chance.

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Speaker 2: Now can the Rams will wrap up their season against

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks. If the Rams win, they would obviously take

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Speaker 2: care of business. But if the Seahawks win and about

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Speaker 2: five or six things happen over the next couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks and somehow Seattle could sneak in as NFC West champions.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to bore people by trying to figure

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Speaker 4: all that out.

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Speaker 2: But again, you got a lot of matchups as we

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Speaker 2: get ready for these games right now, Richie, where you

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Speaker 2: have you know, I mean two games or both teams

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Speaker 2: are out of it are the Raiders Saints and the

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Speaker 2: Titans Jaguars. But you know, let's start with the Buccaneers

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Speaker 2: right now, they're hosting the Panthers. This is a Panther

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Speaker 2: team that has played much better football over the last

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Speaker 2: several weeks, and the Buccaneers lost their ability to control

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Speaker 2: their own destiny by losing that last game to the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Now they need to win out and they need the

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Speaker 2: Falcons to lose today. Of course, that's going to be

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Speaker 2: the Sunday night game. Falcons on the road against the Commanders.

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be very interesting to watch this Buccaneers

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Speaker 2: team because again, when you've had that opportunity to control

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Speaker 2: dependent on others, what does that do to a mindset

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Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't change much. You know.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of questions that come my way about

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Speaker 1: And the answer that question is almost.

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Speaker 3: Not at all, because you're always trying to go out

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Speaker 3: are times where teammates of mine we're scoreboard watching to

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Speaker 3: the vast majority of players, you're going out there to

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Speaker 3: the best of your ability. Every single Sunday, Thursday night,

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Speaker 3: Monday night, whenever, you're playing Saturday, Christmas Day, whenever.

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Speaker 1: And that's the truth.

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Speaker 3: Now, when it comes to after the game, there is

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Speaker 3: you need help around the league, there's no question about that.

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Speaker 3: I've remembered a couple of plane rides where we were

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Speaker 3: the screens went black because we're having technical difficulties and

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Speaker 3: we're like, are.

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Speaker 1: You kidding me right now? Like we need to see

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Speaker 1: that game. But yeah, during the game, it doesn't affect motivation.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting when you talk about motivation. The Charters

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Speaker 2: clinch their playoffs spot by smashing the Patriots yesterday. But

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Speaker 2: Chargers are playing basically a walkover game, but they don't

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Speaker 2: need to win it. They're sort of locked in, but

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Speaker 2: they're not locked in because the Pittsburgh Steelers will be

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Speaker 2: hosting the Bengals next week. Bengals technically are still alive

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Speaker 2: would you say there's a difference and having a first

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Speaker 2: first round road game against the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would argue there's a big difference, a big difference.

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Speaker 2: Right now. The Steelers have the tie breakover the Chargers

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Speaker 2: you know, playing the Bengals, a team that technically is

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Speaker 2: still alive right now, Man, I gotta win that last game.

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Speaker 2: I can't mail in a game this late. If it

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Speaker 3: You know, let's just stop off there for a second

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Speaker 3: and talk about those two playoff teams and how vastly

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Speaker 3: CJ Stroud regression. There's no question about it. He's the

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Speaker 3: the injury bug two years in a row. Last year

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Speaker 3: it didn't factor as much. This year it's had much

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Speaker 1: And then you look at the.

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson led Baltimore Ravens, who look like they're getting

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Speaker 1: Lamar is playing like an MVP candidate.

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Speaker 3: And if Josh Allen wasn't having such an impressive year,

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Speaker 3: I think he would be the favorite to win the award.

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Speaker 1: So it is a vastly.

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Speaker 3: Different circumstance going to Baltimore and playing right now in

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Speaker 3: the postseason, are going to Houston.

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Speaker 1: I would choose Houston ten out of ten times.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we have our first score of the

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Speaker 2: game and it is a pick six. That is a

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Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson picks six for the Philadelphia Eagles, who have

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Speaker 2: taken an early seven to nothing lead against the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: I have to laugh.

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Speaker 4: I mean Eagles and the Kelly Green too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the Kelly Green uh and that was

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Speaker 2: a pick six taken to the house. Last week was

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Speaker 2: unbelievable with the Cowboys getting that win against Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 2: Did you watch Jerry Jones after that game. I thought

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Speaker 2: he was gonna literally kiss Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean he was like, yeah, like literally they had

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Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl. He was so excited about that

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Speaker 2: win on a day where they were mathematically eliminated from

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Again, and even it was like face to face, like

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Speaker 2: he was grabbing McCarthy's head, like, oh, my biggest win

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Speaker 2: ever once again.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean the bottom line here is the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: are going nowhere. It's gonna be a off season, a decision,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to begin with their coach. What do

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Speaker 2: you think Cowboy fans? How will they react if Jerry

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Speaker 2: Jones were to extend the contract of Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think there would be a mutiny. I think

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Speaker 3: I think there would be people trying to get refunds

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Speaker 3: for their season tickets. I really, honestly do I think

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Speaker 3: that Mike McCarthy isn't the problem. But I think Mike

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Speaker 3: McCarthy is a symptom of the problem. And what I

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Speaker 3: mean by that is, if you look around the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: organization and you look at their issues, the main mean,

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Speaker 3: the main problem isn't DAC's health or you know, the

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Speaker 3: main problem isn't Mike McCarthy in his coaching style. The

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Speaker 3: main problem isn't you know, the buy in from the team.

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Speaker 3: The main problem is Jerry Jones. And so Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 3: is only the Dallas Cowboys head coach in the first

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Speaker 3: place because of Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a hand selected pick.

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Speaker 3: You remember that Mike McCarthy after getting the Dallas job,

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Speaker 3: came out publicly and said, yeah, I lied to Jerry

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Speaker 3: about how much film I watch What a Knuggle Ahead.

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Speaker 1: He still hired me. It was ridiculous. Now, don't get

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Speaker 1: me wrong.

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Speaker 3: In the regular season, Mike McCarthy proved Jerry right in

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Speaker 3: a lot of ways. They won double digit, double digits

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Speaker 3: most of his tenure coaching there.

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Speaker 2: All of them.

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Speaker 1: But Jerry Jerry hired him. Yeah, he hired him to

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Speaker 1: be a super Bowl winning.

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Speaker 2: Coach, right, because he had a super Bowl win on

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Speaker 2: his resume. That's what separated him in that hire. Can

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Speaker 2: I ask a question here, Rich, I know you have

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Speaker 2: total disdain for the Pro Bowl. The Pro Bowl rosters

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Speaker 2: will be announced later this week. So on the NFC side,

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Speaker 2: they picked three quarterbacks in each conference, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The NFC quarterbacks to me are pretty simple.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be Jared Goff, Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't see Matthew Stafford in there. I

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Speaker 2: don't see Jordan Loving there. Jayden Daniels not quite. I

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Speaker 2: think those three are set. The AFC, all right, you're

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Speaker 2: ready for this? All right, So Josh Allen and.

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Speaker 3: Mary Jadan Daniels I would campaign for about I digree.

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Speaker 2: I just think Mayfield's numbers are just And by the way,

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Speaker 2: Mayfield just threw a touchdown pass giving Tampa in early

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Speaker 2: seven that they lead over Carolina. That's thirty five touchdowns

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Speaker 2: now for him.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 4: On the AFC, you're ready for this. Three quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: And again, y'all understand this, Rich has total disdain for

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Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. But if it was just the Rich

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Speaker 2: Ornberger team and you have to pick three AFC quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: all right, so you got josh Ala Lamar Jackson the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I was asking, do the Eagles style have

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Speaker 10: I have two working eyeballs, and they have shown they

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Speaker 5: This is a Cowboys team that came in with a

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Speaker 10: They just put Ceedee Lamb on ir and you would

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, here's something interesting for the Eagles, obviously, is

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Speaker 2: They are still waiting for the Eagles offense to take

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Speaker 2: next two weeks to break Eric dicker since single season

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Speaker 2: that's how many yards per game OJ Simpson gain in

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Speaker 4: So the actual record.

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Speaker 3: this Philadelphia Egos Cowboys game where it's knotted up and

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Speaker 3: linebacker Micah Parsons is a half sack away from being

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Speaker 3: Do you want to hear the others who have done this?

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Speaker 4: Well, who else has done this?

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Speaker 1: They're all Hall of famers.

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Speaker 4: All right, Reggie White? I would imagine.

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Speaker 1: Reggie White's one of them. Very good. Yes, Dwight Freeney,

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Speaker 4: Is most interesting man on the planet.

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Speaker 3: Oh dude, I love talking to Dwight and then Derek Thomas.

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Speaker 3: Good company to be in if you're Michael Parsons on

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Speaker 3: Have a big one against Boise, and I say big one,

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Speaker 3: but let's be honest, that's gonna be a blowout.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding. I have no idea what that game

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Speaker 3: But I digress about that because we have so much

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Speaker 3: how many attempts that Kenny Pickett even gets today because

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Speaker 3: that could have an impact on whether or not Michah

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be the equivalent of last week

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's obvious based on Jerry Jones' reaction last

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Speaker 1: I really do.

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Speaker 4: Going on we got going on in that Eagle Cowboy game.

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Speaker 2: Get a little chippy out there, by the way, how

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Speaker 2: Apparently he's gonna throw on every single down that heck

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Speaker 2: was Saquon Barkley. I'm gonna pile up my incomplete stats

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Speaker 1: This is so silly, Like.

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Speaker 3: I mean, everybody in the building knows what you're trying

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Speaker 1: Let's not disguise it. Give Saquana carry. Now. I will

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Speaker 3: The Eagles to clinch the division today with a win

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Speaker 3: Sunday Night Football to the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: The Commander's hosting the Falcons tonight.

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Speaker 2: All right, Panthers Buccaneers a battle of Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: rating of one fifty eight point three. Well that's very

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Speaker 2: much what we predicted, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're four and eleven going into this game.

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Speaker 2: this thing is turned around for Bryce Young. Bryce Young

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Speaker 2: the guy the won a Heisman Trophy at Alabama. So

440
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, new coach, new system, in Carolina,

441
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 2: regardless of their final record, I think that this was

442
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 2: a major step forward for where they were at the

443
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: end of last season.

444
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,479
Speaker 3: So Carolina is a little bit of an enigma because

445
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 3: we don't know exactly how good Bryce Young is or

446
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 3: how good he'll be because he hasn't been surrounded by

447
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 3: much over the past two seasons, and they made a

448
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: head coaching change. You know, when you look at this

449
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 3: game though against the Bucks the first time around.

450
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: They had a season high.

451
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 3: The Bucks did two hundred and thirty six rushing yards

452
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 3: in that Week thirteen win, but they needed Chewb a.

453
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: Hubbard to fumble in overtime in order to get that victory.

454
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: You know, Bryce Young's coming off of one of the

455
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 3: best games of it actually probably the best game of

456
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 3: it of his NFL career. He was easily one of

457
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 3: the highest rated quarterbacks in Week sixteen.

458
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: So this isn't going to be a rollover matchup for

459
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: the Bucks.

460
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 3: They got all they could handle a couple of weeks

461
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 3: back when they faced the Panthers, and Bryce Young's playing

462
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 3: even better since then.

463
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is a trending right

464
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 2: now as a monthly who yesterday, of course, proudly don

465
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: herd Chargers cap celebrating the Chargers clinches. Go.

466
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 11: I'm also wearing a Charger shirt today, but it's black,

467
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 11: so it's deceiving, very deceiving.

468
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,360
Speaker 8: It's very deceiving.

469
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're talking earlier about the Chargers and

470
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: the Steelers situation. Obviously, Steelers have the tie break because

471
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 2: they beat the Chargers. But if the Steelers lose, Chargers win,

472
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: I would imagine you would rather play Houston on the

473
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: road than Baltimore.

474
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 8: Any day, any day. But I told you I don't.

475
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 11: I don't expect the Chargers to win the Super Bowl,

476
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 11: but I do expect them to put up a fight

477
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 11: with whoever they face.

478
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 8: Yes, but of course, of course I would rather face

479
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 8: the Texans. I mean it's not even comparable.

480
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 11: I think, especially the way the Texans have been playing lately,

481
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 11: it just is not the team.

482
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 2: That By the way, if you had Rich Ornberger as

483
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: your center, yes, as was the case in twenty thirteen,

484
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: you would be guaranteed a road playoff victory.

485
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: That's correct.

486
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 8: That's can you can you, sue? Becca?

487
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: I absolutely cannot.

488
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 8: Okay, Well, i'd ask, I figured i'd ask.

489
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: Thank you. The Giants have.

490
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 11: Taken the lead from the Colts because we have connect data,

491
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 11: well not we. Drew Locke has connected with the Maleagan neighbors,

492
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 11: and I'm excited about that because he's in my Guillotine.

493
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 8: League, a thirty one year touchdown pass. Now the Giants are.

494
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 11: Beating the Cold seven to three with one minute to

495
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 11: go in the first quarter. Raiders on top of the

496
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 11: Saints three zero late in the first Josh Allen with

497
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 11: a one yard rushing touchdown, and the Bills are beating

498
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 11: the Jets seven zero late in the first as well.

499
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 8: Cowboys did have a slow start.

500
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 11: Because Cooper Rush threw a pick six, but they responded.

501
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 11: They are now tied with the Eagles at seven apiece

502
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 11: with about four minutes to go in the first quarter.

503
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 11: The Buccaneers were knocking on the door to score, they

504
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 11: settled for a field goal. So now they're beating the

505
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 11: Panthers ten to seven with a minute to go in

506
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 11: the first and the Jaguars are up on the Titans

507
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 11: three zero after the first quarter. Yesterday, the Bengals played

508
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 11: and running back Chase Brown got her. According to the

509
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 11: NFL Network, even though he has an ankle spring, he

510
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 11: does have a chance to play next week, So that's good.

511
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 11: You guys were talking about Penn Stage just a little

512
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 11: bit ago. Well, apparently the head coach, James Franklin said

513
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 11: today at a media availability for the Verbo Fiestable that

514
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 11: he thinks Nick Saban should be the new commissioner dealing

515
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 11: with all of the football changes happening in college Nick

516
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 11: Saban is who he thinks is the guy that should

517
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 11: be selected to handle all of the new changes in

518
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 11: college football.

519
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 8: Lastly, here Lakers.

520
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 11: Are training D'Angelo Russell, Maxwell Lewis in the second and

521
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 11: three second round picks to the Brooklyn Nets for Dorian

522
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 11: Finney Smith, Dorian Finney Smith and Shake Milton.

523
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 8: That's right back to you guys.

524
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 4: All right, Monzi, thank you very much.

525
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: Of course, Montsy will be checking in throughout the show

526
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: today keeping us updated on everything once again. Red Zone

527
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: Radio here Steve Harvin and Rich Ornberger with you. Yeah.

528
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: I would imagine, you know, we have these bowl games

529
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: that are going on in between different levels of the

530
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: college football.

531
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 4: Playoff and it's a nightmare.

532
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: I mean, teams literally have fifteen, eighteen twenty players in

533
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: the transfer portal and they're not eligible to play in

534
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: the ball games. We had Marshall who had to pull

535
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: out of a bowl game outside of the COVID year.

536
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: When is a team pulled out of a bowl game?

537
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 2: How about when you can't actually field a team. You

538
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: had the cam Ward situation yesterday where the only reason

539
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: he played was to break the NCAA record for most

540
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: career touchdown passes, and then he sat out the second

541
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: half of Miami lost. And how about Colorado yesterday getting

542
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: blown out by BYU as both Shador Sanders and Travis

543
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: under decided to play. I guess one for the Gipper,

544
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: right for Dion and they get annihilated in that bowl game.

545
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: I got a sense a lot of these bowl games

546
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 2: are gonna go by the way side.

547
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 5: What do you do with the Pop Tarts Bowl where

548
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 5: Kim Word plays the first half?

549
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm literally talking about that right now.

550
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like I just saw some people complaining about that,

551
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 5: but also like should be lucky he played the first half.

552
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 4: Hates to begin with, Well, the only reason he played

553
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 4: was to break the record.

554
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: By the way, that record is not going to stand

555
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: long because if Dylan Gabriel he has a chance literally

556
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: to break that record immediately.

557
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:53,239
Speaker 3: Uh.

558
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 4: For Oregon, but I something is going to have to

559
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 4: shake out here.

560
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: Rich. As far as these Bowl games and the playoff,

561
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 2: here's my problem with the playoff right now. You got

562
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: the wrong number of teams either you got to have

563
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: eight or sixteen, correct, Because the idea of these four

564
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 2: schools having a bye, all four of these schools Oregon, Georgia,

565
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: Boise State, and Arizona State will have been off for

566
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: twenty five days and they're playing a team that's only

567
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: been off eleven days, who, by the way, had a

568
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 2: home game. Why don't these four teams have home games now?

569
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, you know, we knew that you

570
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: have to have one year of the playoff and then

571
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 2: sort of tinker with it. I think they're going to

572
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: be a number of changes because for the four teams

573
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: right now, they've been sitting idle for almost a month

574
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 2: and they don't even get a home game. Well, these

575
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: other teams had a home game. Doesn't make any sense.

576
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Here's what you do.

577
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: You don't go backward, don't drink it to eight, expand

578
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 3: it to sixteen.

579
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: And here's why. So you have a bunch of these

580
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: coaches who like to peacock.

581
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 3: Around and talk about how you know, oh hey, we

582
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 3: play a tough schedule in the SEC. So if we

583
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: were scheduled, instead of name the team that's being complained

584
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: about in the first round, whether it be the Indiana

585
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 3: Hoosiers or that's some you mustangs and their blowout losses

586
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: in the first.

587
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 1: Round, if we were there, we would have taken them

588
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: to task.

589
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, well, let's expand the playoff to sixteen.

590
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 3: Let's get all of these teams playing in the first round,

591
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 3: all of them, no buys, Let's get all of them

592
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 3: playing in the first round.

593
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: Let's have eight games.

594
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: I think the first two rounds should be at home.

595
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 3: And I agree and give home field advantage to the

596
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: top or the higher seed in the matchup. So you

597
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: have eight teams play the first round, or it should

598
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: say eight games playing the first round, four games playing

599
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: in the second round, and then we get into our

600
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: bowl season exactly in terms of the CFP, exactly, you

601
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: could still get in if yes, the Bawl and an

602
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: Orange Bowl and a Rose Bowl, et cetera, et cetera,

603
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: have your national championship game. You're going to satisfy the

604
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: corporate sponsors, and oh, by the way you're gonna get

605
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: rid of some of the more superfluous Bowl games. But

606
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: these players are sitting.

607
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: But here's the problem, Rich and the reason they're doing

608
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: this to appease these major bowl games. Look at the

609
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: Rose Bowl. Granddaddy of them all is a quarter final

610
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: matchup in a playoff. The granddaddy of them all is

611
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: a quarter final matchup in the playoff. If you were

612
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,239
Speaker 2: to eliminate and get down to just you know what

613
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: we used to have right where we had the two

614
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: semis and then a championship game.

615
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 4: If you expanded sixteen schools, who.

616
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: Would be there?

617
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: Who would be playing in the Rose Bowl or the

618
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: I mean you wouldn't have any players. I mean the

619
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: pop Tarts Bowl was essentially the best matchup of teams

620
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: not in the playoff, right, I mean, Iowa State, you

621
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: had Miami Florida.

622
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 4: In the pop Tarts.

623
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: How the pop Tarts by the way, I love the

624
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: end of the pop Starts Swell. So the winner gets

625
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: a choice of their favorite pop tart, right, and they

626
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: won with the cinnamon, and they cook the mask and

627
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: then they cook the mascot in the toaster, and then

628
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: they pick away at.

629
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 5: The pop tart after the game. Did you see there

630
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 5: is lore to this thing? Because spotted in the upper

631
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 5: decks of the bowl where the pop Tarts bull was

632
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 5: the Stadiu where the pop Tarts Bowl was, was the

633
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 5: half eaten remains of last year's frosted strawberry.

634
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm wondering around.

635
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 5: The pop Tarts The trophy should be the national The

636
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 5: trophy is a working toaster.

637
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 4: Trophy is a working toaster. It's gonna start a fire.

638
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how happy I am about the trophy,

639
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: about the Pop Tarts Bowl and their involvement. I mean,

640
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, not every single time they try

641
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: to h I how should I describe it?

642
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: Make football more family friendly? Does it work?

643
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 4: How about the.

644
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: Snoop Dog Arizona bowl Snoop was everywhere we actually were

645
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: broadcasting that game.

646
00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: It was a really.

647
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 5: Forgot one more thing from the pop Tarts ball Cole

648
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 5: Cubelek the sideline reporter wearing a Pop Tarts costume as

649
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 5: with the mic.

650
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: Well that's that's how you get these. Any any eyeballs

651
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: on any of these lesser bowls was a few years ago.

652
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: The Outback Bowl.

653
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 5: There was like someone from Espie Nation, Ryan Nanny who

654
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 5: like dressed up as a blooming onion and was running

655
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 5: around on the sidelines.

656
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 4: That's what you gotta have. It's like minor league baseball.

657
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 3: The bloomin onion. Thank you, That's exactly it. The bloomin onion,

658
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: by the way, elite. It's the best appetizer served in

659
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: any restaurant.

660
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: And I will go to war over that. But getting

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Speaker 1: back to what Steve just said, Yeah, minor league baseball.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's that's exactly free you and know all.

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Speaker 4: Kinds of great fan friendly fan friendly.

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Speaker 3: I was at the Holiday Bowl in San Diego. They

665
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Speaker 3: had Joey Chestnut. He's chugging eggnog, he's cutting promos. He

666
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: was supposed to do the eggnog poor but Syracuse's head

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Speaker 3: coach decided to douse his entire team behind him with

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Speaker 3: the Gatorade.

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Speaker 1: Cooler filled with eggnog. Like little things.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be overt, it doesn't need to

671
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: be over top, but at least try give it an

672
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: attempt to make it a little bit more social media friendly,

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00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: family friendly.

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Speaker 1: The Pop Tarts Bowl is nailing it. I agree with you, Steve.

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00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: I think it's becoming so popular and such a thing

676
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: on TikTok Instagram reels. It is so shareable on Twitter

677
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: because that's more of a news site, but media is

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00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: posted there as well.

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00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: You can see how the tail.

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00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: Sometimes wags the dog, and people will tell you what

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Speaker 3: they want.

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Speaker 1: That's the way you do it, so look.

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Speaker 3: Getting back to the original discussion, though, if playoff expansion

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Speaker 3: does happen, I don't want any bye weeks. I think

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00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: it's ridiculous because they only play a twelve twelve game

686
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: season anyways, you don't need a buy going to the playoffs.

687
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: You play thirteen at the most with your conference championship game.

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00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: Nobody needs a buy after thirteen games. After you've had

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Speaker 3: one or two depending on whether or not you participate

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00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: in Week zero.

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Speaker 1: Throughout the course of the season, they've already had two

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00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: bye weeks. These teams, they don't need to buy after

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00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: thirteen games. So have them play.

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Speaker 3: The remaining schedule from sixteen games all the way to

695
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: a national championship, and we will have so much more fun.

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Speaker 2: All right, somebody needs to wake up the New York

697
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: Giants right now.

698
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 4: Get Drew Lock out of this game.

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00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: He just threw a thirty one yard touchdown pass the

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Speaker 2: moleak neighbors, and the Giants have taken a seven to

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00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: three lead over the Colts.

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Speaker 5: Didn't they get the memo? Here's the low Steve. Who's

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00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 5: jersey am I wearing today? Who's jersey?

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Speaker 2: I know that? Yeah, it's time?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, get me the where's the Italian?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: I tell you one thing Drew lock right now is

708
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: a perfect passer rating. So that is not what the

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00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 2: Giants need. All right, We'll continue on here. We got

710
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: a lot of craziness. We got six games going on

711
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: around the NFL. Also, get you ready for the games

712
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: later on. Today we're wrapping up Week seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Only one more.

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Speaker 2: Week after this in the NFL regular season. This is

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Speaker 2: red Zone radio.

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Speaker 7: There comes flats, little slip screen for neighbors, passes it

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Speaker 7: out the.

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Speaker 1: Thirty drifts of the twenty one out of a tackle

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Speaker 1: to attend.

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Speaker 2: To the five touchdown.

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Speaker 9: The league gabers thirty one yard and that's why they

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00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 9: drafted him sixth overall. He made players missed like Joliant Blackman.

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Speaker 2: It took it to the end zone. That's the Giants

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Speaker 2: radio network.

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00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: And believe it.

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00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: Or not, du locked Us threw another touchdown pass the

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00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: Molak neighbors and the Giants in a desperate attempt to

728
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: lose our beating the Colts fourteen to three, eleven and

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00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: a half minutes to go in the first half of

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Speaker 2: that game. Red Zone Radio here Steve Arbin and Rich Arnberger.

731
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Speaker 2: We are live from the tire rack dot Com studios. Rich,

732
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: We've talked about this many times in terms of tanking

733
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: at the end of the season.

734
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 4: Players don't tank.

735
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: Organizations tank by keeping players out of games.

736
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Speaker 4: It's very simple.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to lose games, you just

738
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 2: make certain players unavailable to play. And so the players

739
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: that aren't playing, obviously they're playing as hard as they can.

740
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: They want to keep their jobs. But if you're under

741
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 2: man most likely you're going to lose games. I'm looking

742
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 2: at this right now, like what what are the Giants doing?

743
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: Like right, I mean, after the Raiders, you know, beat

744
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: the Jaguars and Antonio appears all hell broke loose and

745
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: Radar nation about that game, it may be telling you something.

746
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 2: I did you watch any of that Colorado BYU game yesterday?

747
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

748
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: I mean Sanders is okay, you know, cam Ward is okay.

749
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 4: There are no standout quarterbacks in this draft.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry they're I mean, they're we're always talking quarterback

751
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: in a draft, but nobody is just blowing me away

752
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: as like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that guy's got it,

753
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: uh for the next level. And I'm daring to say

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00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: right now the twenty twenty five draft, because obviously players

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00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: will develop and their maybe a few Hall of Famers

756
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 2: down the road.

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00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 4: That looked like a great draft to me.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree from the quarterback standpoint, but don't say

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00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: it's not a good draft, because.

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Speaker 4: What do you do with Travis Hunter?

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00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: Well, Travis Hunter is going to do what Travis Hunter

762
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: wants to do. Does he want to be at a

763
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: corner or does he want to be a safety? Or

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00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 3: does he want to be a receiver? Does he want

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00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 3: to be involved in.

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Speaker 2: The return he wants to do them all.

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00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: Well, if he wants to do them all, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: have a very short career.

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Speaker 3: And I have a feeling that his agent is going

770
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: to talk about of doing that, because you're putting additional

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00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 3: reps on your body that you're not going to be

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00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: appropriately compensated for, because you're certainly not going to be

773
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 3: paid double the salary.

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00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: For playing receiver.

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00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: He wants to show deal.

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00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not gonna happen. It's just that I mean,

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Speaker 1: because here's the problem.

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00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 3: The durability factor of being show Heyo Tani and dhing

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00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: and pitching is very different than the hits and the

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00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 3: bodily or the physical abuse you'll take to your body

781
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 3: and the harm that you put your body in jeopardy

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00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 3: of over the course of a seventeen game regular season.

783
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: If you're a defensive back in a receiver, it's just

784
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: not the same sport. So if he wants to be

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00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: the Sho heeo Tani of the NFL, good on him.

786
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: It's going to be for a short time because the

787
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: body can only take so much as you age, and

788
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 3: also he's never going to be fairly compensated for those efforts.

789
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Speaker 3: So I really do feel that that may be his goal,

790
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: that's something he wants to do. If it is, it'll

791
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: be short lasting, and if it ends up being long lasting,

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00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: it's not going to be for that long because your

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00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: body will break down.

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00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: All right. So if the Giants were to win today,

795
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: then you would have once again a six way tie

796
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: of teams all with three wins. You got the Raiders

797
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: they need a quarterback. The Browns We're gonna get to

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00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: that situation in a moment.

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00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 4: Edge goes to the Patriots right now.

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00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: The Jaguars, well, the Patriots do get the edge, but

801
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: they got a quarterback. Okay, So that's what I'm saying

802
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: that means you immediately put sales stock well exactly. In

803
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: other words, yeah, I mean you're gonna try to get

804
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: a hold because Tennessee definitely needs a quarterback.

805
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 4: Jacksonville does not. The Giants do.

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00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: Uh.

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00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: Let's put you back in the seat of your former team,

808
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots. Sure, if you're sitting at the

809
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: number one overall pick, are you taking a try? I mean,

810
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: that is the worst roster in the NFL? Are there

811
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: any question that? I mean they week on offensive line

812
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 2: week at skill positions. You have a quarterback of the future.

813
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: That is a weak roster. Do you sit on that

814
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: number one pick? Do you look for a boatload of picks?

815
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: If you can get it, is somebody willing to give

816
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: up boatload of picks up to get shdor Sanders well Ward.

817
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: That's what you do first and foremost. You you pump

818
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 3: out there. If I'm the Patriots, this would be the playbook.

819
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: You pump out their information, whether it's true or not,

820
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: that a couple of different names, and you stage it right,

821
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: you stage it throughout the course of the offseason, that

822
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 3: a couple of different names of specific interest to other

823
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: teams that are near you in the draft that you're

824
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: interested in. So Shadoor, Travis Hunter, you know whoever it

825
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: may be, like, these are the players we're interested in,

826
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: and you make sure that the sources never come back

827
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 3: to you, but you get that information out there. Then

828
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 3: you start fielding the calls that are inevitably going to

829
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: come in to see how much value you can get

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00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: draft capital wise for your selection at the top. And

831
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Speaker 3: then if you don't like any of that value, you

832
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: draft Travis Hunter because guess what, you can convince them

833
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: to play offense or defense or.

834
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Speaker 1: You need a ball.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing about New engl aer so weak. They

836
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Speaker 2: were the one team that probably could use him playing

837
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Speaker 2: both sides.

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Speaker 5: I feel like you can where these other teams are,

839
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 5: You can thread the needle, get a team trade quarterback

840
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 5: and maybe still be in line for Travis Hunts. You

841
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 5: might have best of both worlds, especially if you can

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00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 5: get like the Raiders on the hook.

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00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, I am rooting for the Giants

844
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: to win for only one reason. My preseason prediction was

845
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 2: the Patriots would be the worst team in the NFL,

846
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Speaker 2: and that mantle goes whoever has the first pick in

847
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Speaker 2: the draft.

848
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 4: We continue on more Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 10: From the three yard line, playfing Matcrop the throw looking

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Speaker 10: looking fires back of the end zone.

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Speaker 4: That's Parker Washington.

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Speaker 1: Didn't get caulf faked down?

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Speaker 6: Yes, say that touchdown Parker Washington.

854
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Speaker 2: In the back of the end zone for the score

855
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Speaker 2: at Jaguars Radio Network. Jaguars lead the Titans ten nothing

856
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: in a battle for draft on the position.

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Speaker 5: Don't leave out the important part. Parker Washington is five

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Speaker 5: foot ten.

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Speaker 1: He's maybe five foot ten.

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Speaker 4: Maybe five foot ten. The stan a short king.

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Speaker 1: We do all right, very good.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Buccaneers with that twenty to seven lead

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Speaker 2: over the Panthers. Baker Mayfield still with a perfect passer

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Speaker 2: rating is eleven to thirteen hundred and seventy yards, two touchdowns,

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00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 2: thirty six touchdown passes. This year for Baker Mayfield, I mean,

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00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: he's another guy having an MVP level season. And you know,

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00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 2: we were sort of questioning where Mayfield would go after

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00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: last year's breakthrough. Of course, he rose from the dead

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00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: with that opportunity in Tampa Bay and he got him

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00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: into the playoffs and then we say, yeah, but you know,

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00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: the pattern with him is he'll have that one good

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Speaker 2: year and you get all hyped up and then he

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Speaker 2: takes a step backwards. Not this year. This is the

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Speaker 2: best season of Baker Mayfield's career, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: he looks back. I think he's got great receivers in Tampa,

883
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: great weapons to use. It's always nice to be confident

884
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: in a quarterback when you can throw it to a

885
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 2: guy that's going to actually catch the ball do something

886
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 2: with it. And Mayfield's never lacked for confidence. So I

887
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: think this is good for quite a run now with

888
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield still a relatively young quarterback in Tampa Bay.

889
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Baker Mayfield is young, He's ambitious. I think he's

890
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: eager to prove to this league that he belongs in

891
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: the top ten or dare I say top five conversation? Now,

892
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: he has never played like that quarterback he aims to

893
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 3: be at the league level, but he certainly did in college.

894
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: And there's no doubt that he has the propensity to

895
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: prove everybody wrong. He's been able to do that a

896
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: few times throughout his playing career. And by the way,

897
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 3: we've only really known about Baker Mayfield for a short

898
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 3: time relatively speaking. You know, I realize it feels like

899
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 3: a long time when you go all the way back

900
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: to his college playing days, but this has been a

901
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: decade of awareness and.

902
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: His playing style. It lends me to believe that he.

903
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: Can play at a high level for at very least

904
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 3: five more seasons. And so I don't think the story

905
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: is finished with Baker Mayfield. It may only just be

906
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: beginning in Tampa Bay.

907
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: All right.

908
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 2: One thing we are watching right now is Saquon Barkley.

909
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: He needed two hundred and sixty eight yards over the

910
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: last two games, so that's one hundred and thirty four

911
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: per game. Very doable to break Eric Dickerson's single season record.

912
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: Eric reiterated what he said with Montsie and I two

913
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: weeks ago, exact same words. I swear the La Times

914
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: literally lifted it right off the transcript of our show

915
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: when Eric came on and said, no, do I want

916
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: him to break the record. Hell no, I don't want

917
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 2: him to break the record, but you know, if it happens,

918
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: it happens. Sakuon Barkley right now, with six and a

919
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: half minutes going the first half against the Cowboys, seven

920
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 2: carries thirteen yards.

921
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't get it.

922
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't get the game plan.

923
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: Can he pick ittt seven and nine passing seventy seven

924
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: yards in a touchdown with Saquon Barkley with the record

925
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: in sight? Seven carries thirteen yards?

926
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I listen.

927
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: They came out with a pass heavy script to start

928
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: this game. I think as they settle in, they're gonna

929
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: get to Saquon more. I certainly think that's an adjustment

930
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: that they feel they're going to need, especially if they

931
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 3: loosen up the line of scrimmage by introducing more of

932
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 3: a passing threat from Kenny Pickett.

933
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: But it's just weird.

934
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 3: It's just weird when a backup quarterback goes in who

935
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: I know is a different type of player. He's not

936
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts. He doesn't have they don't share the same

937
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: skill set. But a mobile quarterback. We saw him plenty

938
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 3: times a pit the way he's able to move with

939
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: the football. Yeah, I think that they could run a

940
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: very similar scheme and offense around Kenny Pickett. Maybe maybe

941
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 3: take away the deep throws. You want to play a

942
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: little more conservative from that standpoint and still have some success.

943
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm I'm fascinated, but I'm fascinated that that

944
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley hasn't had more touches so far today.

945
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: All Right, so I'm watching this Bill's Jets game. Not

946
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: much to watch. Actually, Bill's still lead at seven to nothing,

947
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: just three and a half minutes to go in the

948
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: first half. Josh Allen, you know, he's snuck in for

949
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: a touchdown hardly MVP numbers today ten to fourteen ninety

950
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: one yards. But it's the guy on the other side,

951
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, still dragging his butt out there week after

952
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 2: week in totally meaningless games.

953
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 4: He's thrown an interception in this game.

954
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 2: I mean, when you look back over this guy's Hall

955
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: of Fame career, I mean, obviously he's never had a

956
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: season like this where the majority of the season is

957
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: a throwaway. Remember, this team fired Robert Salo when they

958
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: were two and three. They're two and eight since they

959
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: fired him two and eight and Rodgers been there all

960
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: the way. I just can you imagine, you know, having

961
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: played on the biggest stage, super Bowl winning quarterback, all

962
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: those playoff games, so many critical games in his Green

963
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: Bay years late in the season, as you call him,

964
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: like those early playoff games to win down the stretch

965
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: in order to get into the postseason. He's been in

966
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: dozens of games like this over the course of his career.

967
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: What was it be like to be sitting there dragging

968
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: yourself out there, your forty one year old body, getting

969
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 2: beat up in games that don't matter at all.

970
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 4: How tough do you think that is for Aaron Rodgers?

971
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: I'd imagine it's it's insanely difficult. But at the same token,

972
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 3: he watched other quarterbacks over the course of his career

973
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: have fading careers instead of finishing with a bang. You know,

974
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: not everybody gets to be Peyton Manning, where you know,

975
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: you finished with a Super Bowl. And by the way,

976
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: Peyton Manning second year with the Denver Broncos, or the

977
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: Super Bowl winning year with the Denver Broncos. His final season,

978
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: when you really look at it, that was a season.

979
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: Well he got benched for Rossweiler, riddled.

980
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 3: With injuries, and he was benched and his arm was

981
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: barely working in that postseason run and into the super Bowl.

982
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: But he had the savvy to navigate his way around

983
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: his limitations at that point. That's what aging in this

984
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 3: league looks like.

985
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: It is not good. It's not good Tom.

986
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 2: Brady unless you're pumped up with something like Tom Brady

987
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: was well even he I mean like, look his last year.

988
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 2: Look at the numbers. He's set NFL record for attempts

989
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: and completions.

990
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 3: Understood, but attempts and completions do not get you Super Bowls.

991
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 4: Well, but he was still in the playoff something yeah, yeah,

992
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 4: Why don't know why?

993
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: Why why does Tom Brady look younger every single time?

994
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this right now, because Tom Brady has

995
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: jilted us the entire season.

996
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 4: Okay, whoa, whoa jilted.

997
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: He's a busy guy, dude, Okay, I'm watching Tom Brady

998
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: on TV. He looks like an AI character you're saying young,

999
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: he looks like an AI person. He doesn't look actually

1000
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 2: human anymore to Tom Brady, have we have to I

1001
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: don't know, but he looks like AI. Are you calling

1002
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: him an alien? Last week happened to the drones?

1003
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean, think about.

1004
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 10: This, Tom, year in December, the drones are in the air.

1005
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: Is last year he completed four hundred and ninety out

1006
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: of seven hundred and thirty three pass.

1007
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: I must go.

1008
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 10: My home plan reads me. We do have an important

1009
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 10: football update you guys. The Giants just scored against twenty

1010
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 10: to six.

1011
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: All right, so I think what has happened? The Giants

1012
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 2: fans are sick.

1013
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 4: They're sick.

1014
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: They're going to lose the number one pick and it's

1015
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 2: going to end up with Hello, the team I picked

1016
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: is the worst team in the league, New England Patriots. Uh,

1017
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: and they're not going to take Shadar Sanders. This is

1018
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: very intriguing what the Giants are doing. All the grief

1019
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: that the Raiders got for beating the Jaguars last week,

1020
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: and now the Giants were sitting alone, guaranteed the number

1021
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: one pick and they're lighting it up against the Colts.

1022
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 10: Did I see Shudar Sanders had some custom Giants cleats

1023
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 10: yesterday too.

1024
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah you did. Yeah, Oh my goodness, yeah, oh my goodness.

1025
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 1: All right, check this out. Check this out.

1026
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: But he still may end up with the Giants. I

1027
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 2: don't know where the Giants.

1028
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 4: Fall, that's true.

1029
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: They were probably just gonna be a cluster.

1030
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 4: Of all the three that could be two or three.

1031
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 3: I was gonna say it's two Colorado players right at

1032
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 3: the top of the draft board, ends up being huntered

1033
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: to New England, Giants, to the the or I should say,

1034
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 3: should or Sanders to the Giants, and then all of

1035
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 3: a sudden, everything's right in the world. I mean, maybe

1036
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 3: you're just you're over hyping this. Maybe this has been

1037
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: the plan all along. It's fine, everything's fine, everything's fine.

1038
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: Here's what I will say. Brian Dable doesn't want to

1039
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 3: lose another football game. Brian Dable the team, the.

1040
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 4: Plant thing, he has any chance of saving his job.

1041
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: I think they're probably moving on. I would be surprised

1042
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 3: if they kept them on for another season. My guess

1043
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: is that announcements made shortly after this season.

1044
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: Can you imagine him on the cover of your media

1045
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: GUYE twenty twenty five.

1046
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: But it was about to say, like Brian Dable, what's

1047
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: it to him if the Giants draft selection is higher

1048
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: or lower? At this point, it makes no matter to him.

1049
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 3: So this is a little bit of Lovey Smith. Right

1050
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 3: before Demiko Ryan's got hired. Remember it was like the

1051
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 3: It was between I believe, the Bears and the Texans

1052
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 3: for who could get the first overall selection, and he

1053
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 3: ended up winning the game. It was crazy like and

1054
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 3: people were like, would why would the Texans win the game.

1055
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 3: It's like, well, the organization didn't want to win the game,

1056
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 3: but love he didn't care.

1057
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: He was on his way out all right.

1058
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 2: Right now, Drew Lock is seven of eight for one

1059
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty three yards, three touchdowns, no picks. That

1060
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 2: is a perfect passer rating of one fifty eight point three.

1061
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: There is the quarterback your future. They're realizing we don't

1062
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: need no steak In Shad or Sanders. We got Drew Lock.

1063
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 10: If any if anybody listening, once a good laugh, go

1064
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 10: to the Giants Twitter account on their latest post about

1065
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 10: one jobs and scoring. The replies are full of people

1066
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 10: just screaming at them for going ahead and losing.

1067
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely, they're not thrilled, they're not thrilled.

1068
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,479
Speaker 2: They should appreciate that Drew Lock has finally landed. We're

1069
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 2: look at this could be like a sad Donald's situation, right,

1070
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: I mean everyone had given up Sam Darnold for dead,

1071
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 2: and now he's gonna have a he has that Pro

1072
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: Bowl season of Minnesota. Maybe Drew Lock is going to

1073
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: be the guy that they have been waiting for all

1074
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 2: these years with the Giants. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean

1075
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: we were hyped up on Drew Lock. Remember when Drew

1076
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: Lock ended up, you know, with Seattle, Remember that and

1077
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 2: the whole Russell Wilson situation. And then all of a sudden,

1078
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: you know, Smith comes out of nowhere and they go

1079
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: in a different direction.

1080
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 4: What is Drew Lock really had that opportunity to be

1081
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 4: the guy?

1082
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: Maybe today is the springboard for the Drew Lock era

1083
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: with the New York Giants.

1084
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 3: Well, I will say this about quarterbacks in the NFL.

1085
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 3: I think that offensive coordinators and certainly offensive minded head

1086
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: coaches are seeing value and experience and they always have.

1087
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's be very real.

1088
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: When you're working with a quarterback who understands how to

1089
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 3: read defenses, who understands the new nuances of past route concepts,

1090
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 3: knows how to beat man coverage and knows how to

1091
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 3: beat zone coverage, is not gonna make costly mistakes, mental

1092
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 3: errors in the film room, like those.

1093
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: Things are all rookie issues.

1094
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: And frankly, a lot of the rookies coming out of

1095
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 3: college football, or many of them who are playing that

1096
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 3: quarterback position.

1097
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: They haven't played very long at the position.

1098
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Speaker 3: You know, in high school they got they had their

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00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 3: four years, but then they got to college and a

1100
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 3: lot of these guys leave early these days. And so

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00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of coaches like a Kevin

1102
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 3: O'Connell or or you know, for example, Sean McVay, he

1103
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 3: didn't he didn't ask his his GM, hey we need

1104
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 3: to we need to trade up in the draft so

1105
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 3: we can get a first round talent out of the

1106
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: draft to win us a Super Bowl.

1107
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: No, he said, hey, you need to trade for Matthew Stafford.

1108
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 3: We need to get one of these old, experienced guys

1109
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: who's been around the football or it should say the

1110
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 3: NFL for a decade, who can win us a Super Bowl.

1111
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what the Rams did.

1112
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of value in experience, and

1113
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 3: I think we're coming back to that in the NFL

1114
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 3: at the quarterback position.

1115
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: All right, speaking of quarterbacks, Kenny Pickett is throwing the

1116
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: ball all over the place. I mean, the Eagles are

1117
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 2: going all past today. Sakwon Barkley twelve carries for only

1118
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: twenty five yards in the first half. Mentioned Aaron Rodgers

1119
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: a little bit earlier. How tough is it to be

1120
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. He just got sacked in the end zone

1121
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: for safety.

1122
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 4: So Bill's lead that game nine to nothing.

1123
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: We continue on with everything you need on a very

1124
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: busy NFL Sunday.

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Speaker 4: This is Red Zone Radio.

1126
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 2: Pickett, I have a goffee fact.

1127
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: He steps up, he looks he is firing deep.

1128
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 4: Hey, what's he's.

1129
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: Cuts up on?

1130
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 4: Tell you SPT Tubby one yours.

1131
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: That's ninety four WIP Eagles Radio Network. And who needs

1132
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 2: sa Kwon Barkley when he got Kenny Pickett flinging the

1133
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: ball all over the field. Eagles lead the Cowboys seventeen

1134
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: to seven inside the two minute warning in that game.

1135
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 4: This is red Zone Radio. Steve Harbin rich Oronberger with you.

1136
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 2: We are live from the tire Wreck dot Com Studios.

1137
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 4: By the way, history made today.

1138
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 2: Brock Bowers, the rookie tight end for the Raiders has

1139
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 2: just broken Mike Dicka's record for most receiving yards by

1140
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: a rookie as a tight end. What's interesting about this

1141
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 2: record It was set back in nineteen sixty one. Mike Dicka,

1142
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: when he was drafted by the Bears, essentially became the

1143
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: first modern day tight end, and then we forgot it.

1144
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 4: I mean, nobody even knew that.

1145
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 2: The fact that basically he and Ron Kramer with the

1146
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: Packers at the time were both sort of created.

1147
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 4: In a new position.

1148
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: I mean there always were two ends, but one was

1149
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: sort of brought in, one was held out wide, and

1150
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: the Bears sort of created this with Mike Dicka, and

1151
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: he set a record that year. Obviously he didn't break

1152
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: anybody's record, he sort of set the standard and.

1153
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 4: That thing held up for over sixty years.

1154
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 5: It definitely feels like when inventing computer thirty years before

1155
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 5: the fact and we just all just forget about it

1156
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 5: and just rediscovered it.

1157
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 4: He was like the first tight end.

1158
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 10: Stee, how much of Mike Dicka's rookie year do you remember?

1159
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: I remember every second of it now I was three

1160
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: years old. But I mean, the thing about it is

1161
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: one thousand and seventy six yards that year for Mike Dicka,

1162
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: and that began, and then all of a sudden, other

1163
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 2: teams sort of picked up on this. John Mackie with

1164
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Colts. I mean, there were some great tight

1165
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 2: ends in the nineteen sixties, but it was really Dicka

1166
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: that created the position. And the fact that this record

1167
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 2: has stood since nineteen sixty one is mind boggling. Again,

1168
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: he did it in fourteen games. Obviously, Brock powers in

1169
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: his sixteenth game of his rookie season.

1170
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 10: If the Raiders weren't so bad, would there be any meet,

1171
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 10: any steam for Brock Bowers to be Rookie of the Year.

1172
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: There would be.

1173
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 4: There would be absolutely defensive Rookie of the Year.

1174
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1175
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 10: I think he's the best tight end football.

1176
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: I would have said he had a chance until jayde

1177
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: and Daniels threw five touchdowns last week.

1178
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 3: Here's the problem for Brock Bauers is not only does

1179
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 3: the Raiders have no hype, but also the quarterback throwing

1180
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 3: his football him the football has no hype.

1181
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:10,959
Speaker 1: You know, if it was a.

1182
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 3: Situation where it was even a team like the Cardinals,

1183
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 3: who just recently got eliminated from the postseason with the

1184
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 3: loss in overtime to the Panthers.

1185
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: It was Kyler Murray.

1186
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 3: If it was a team that doesn't have playoff aspirations

1187
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 3: even but just has more notable quarterbacks, it would.

1188
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: Have helped him. But he has There is no juice

1189
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: in Vegas right now. Zero.

1190
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, no juice at all. Baker Mayfield, Wow, what a

1191
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 2: half fourteen of seventeen, two hundred and thirteen yards, three

1192
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: touchdowns and no picks. That is a perfect passer rating.

1193
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: Bucks Ley the Panthers twenty seven to fourteen. Now, Bryce

1194
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 2: Young just threw a touchdown pass to Adam Thielen. In fact,

1195
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: they have hooked up with both touchdowns for the Panthers

1196
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 2: in that game. So this brings up what is going

1197
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 2: to happen later tonight when the falc on the road

1198
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 2: against the Commanders. So the Falcons control their own destiny.

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00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: They beat the Buccaneers twice this year, so they both

1200
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: started the day at eight and seven. And he remember

1201
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: last week we were like it seemed like weird timing, right,

1202
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 2: Like the Falcons just say, well, they're still in it.

1203
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: They're a game behind the Bucks and now you're gonna

1204
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 2: throw the rookie in there with three games left. Well,

1205
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: what happened? Falcons win, Bucks lose. Now with two games left,

1206
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: the Falcons control their own destiny and they're gonna have

1207
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: Michael Pennock starting his second game on the road against

1208
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 2: the Commanders, another battle of by the Way quarterbacks. Last year,

1209
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: there were one to two in the Heights from voting.

1210
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: I picked Pennix.

1211
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 4: I've taken the Falcons in this game.

1212
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, do you think like the

1213
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 2: energy of a new quarterback works or is he gonna

1214
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 2: be exposed against a pretty good Commander's team on the

1215
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: road tonight.

1216
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 3: That is a fan base that has been dying for

1217
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 3: something to root for for a long time, and their owner,

1218
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 3: their former owner, Dan Snyder, had practically ruined their chances

1219
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 3: over the course of his time at the lead of

1220
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 3: the organization putting together anything that resembled a good football team.

1221
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: They finally have a foundational piece in place with Daniels.

1222
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 3: They finally have weapons around, a quarterback who's worth something,

1223
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 3: who look solid, who look like they could make a

1224
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: playoff run potentially if they got on a little bit

1225
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 3: of a heater here to finish out the season, and

1226
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 3: also a defense that has been under heralded in that

1227
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: division and across the NFC for a.

1228
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: Couple of years now.

1229
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 3: They don't always play great football, but they can create havoc.

1230
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 3: I look at the Commanders today as having a distinct

1231
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: edge primetime home game fans in that you know, Baltimore, Virginia, Maryland.

1232
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 3: You know that the DC area fired up because there's

1233
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 3: a lot of Maryland people from Maryland who don't root

1234
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 3: for the Baltimore Ravens, who have been Commanders fans whole life.

1235
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: They just live closer to the one ballpark.

1236
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 3: So it's like, no, no, no, this, this to me is

1237
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 3: gonna be a tough moment for Michael Pennix Junior.

1238
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1239
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, though, you know, I was so impressed

1240
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: with Penix last year really over the course of that year.

1241
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: You know, their big semi final win. I mean, this

1242
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: guy has an arm. I mean, he can throw the

1243
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 2: football and he does have a little I don't know, swag.

1244
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: I like him a lot, and I agree with you.

1245
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: I mean, the Commanders wrap up a playoff spot with

1246
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: the win. I mean there's a lot of writing for

1247
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: a Commander's team, as you mentioned, just trying to still

1248
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 2: recover from the you know you know blank show that

1249
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: it was during the Daniel Snyder run. But I'm not

1250
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 2: going to count Penix out of this game. I just

1251
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 2: and again the Falcons. You control your audacity. You win

1252
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: your last two games, you will win the NFC South,

1253
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 2: regardless of what Tampa does. If you win today, if

1254
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 2: you win next week, you win that vision, You're in

1255
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: the postseason.

1256
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're making a lot of sense. And I do

1257
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: like Penix Junior too. I think that was a quality

1258
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 3: selection for whatever team took him, especially a team with

1259
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 3: as many weapons as the Falcons have.

1260
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: However, I'm really disappointed.

1261
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 3: With the Atlanta Falcons, and maybe that's what's skewing the conversation.

1262
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 3: I thought they made a huge mistake bringing in two quarterbacks.

1263
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 3: Now they may be proven correct with the Penix drafting,

1264
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 3: but it still does not underrate how poorly then they

1265
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 3: missed on signing an aging quarterback coming off an achilles

1266
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 3: tear to as large of a contract as they did

1267
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: with Kirk Cousins.

1268
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: It's confounding.

1269
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 3: You either do one or the other, you don't do both,

1270
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 3: and I think it's going to harm them into the future.

1271
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 3: So maybe we don't see that harm done this year.

1272
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: Maybe you're right. Maybe they go on the road, they

1273
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 3: get a big win against Commanders, they finish their season strong,

1274
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 3: and they win the division and get into the postseason,

1275
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 3: and then who knows what happens from there. You know,

1276
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 3: Penix Junior could end up lighting it up and maybe

1277
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 3: we see him in the divisional round or you know,

1278
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 3: or who knows, perhaps further down the road than that.

1279
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 3: The NFC is an interesting conference this year. But I

1280
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 3: digress to get back to this week. I don't I

1281
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 3: don't think that everything that I feel about the Falcons

1282
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 3: is impacting how I feel about this game against the Commanders.

1283
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 3: I really truly think the Commanders are a better class

1284
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 3: of competition.

1285
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: Plus they're hosting them on prime time. I got Washington

1286
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: in this one.

1287
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trendy right now

1288
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: or at halftimes around the National Football League.

1289
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 4: And Monsie's shaking her head.

1290
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 8: I am not a happy camper.

1291
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 11: I did not play Davante Smith because I didn't think

1292
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 11: Kenny Picky could get him the ball, and he just

1293
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,479
Speaker 11: got on the ball for the second time today.

1294
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 4: I look like he's just going to be throwing like

1295
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 4: fifty passes.

1296
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 11: Apparently, Yes, Cooper Rush just threw his second interception, which

1297
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 11: is how Philadelphia got the ball back, and he just

1298
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 11: threw a great pass to DeVante Smith for their second touchdown.

1299
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 8: Eagles are up seventeen to seven. Is the score right now.

1300
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 11: All of the six games that are currently going on

1301
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 11: are either at halftime or within one minute.

1302
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 8: Of reaching halftime, just so everybody knows.

1303
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 11: But yeah, Eagles up seventeen to seven for this one

1304
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 11: against the Cowboys. If the Eagles win, they will clinch

1305
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 11: the NFC East. Now, the Bills are on top of

1306
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 11: the Jets twelve zero in a snooze fest. Josh Allen

1307
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 11: twelve nineteen, one hundred and sixteen yards. He does have

1308
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 11: a rushing touchdown. The Raiders are beating the Saints thirteen

1309
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 11: to ten.

1310
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 8: The Colts scored, so that's good. So the Giants may

1311
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 8: not win this one.

1312
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 11: Jonathan Taylor with a rushing touchdown, but the Giants are

1313
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 11: still on top twenty one to thirteen. Giants rookie teammates

1314
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 11: Maleak Neighbors and Tyrone Tracy are the second pair of rookie.

1315
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 8: Teammates since nineteen seventy to each surpass one thousand yards.

1316
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 8: Wo for the Giants.

1317
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, so mylik neighbors right now has four catches, one

1318
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 11: hundred and three yards and a touchdown.

1319
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 4: That's gotten them the worst record in the NFL.

1320
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 11: That's gone on, and imagine just what they can do

1321
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 11: maybe next year, yes, but they're trying to win right now.

1322
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 11: So that's what's interesting. The Buccaneers up there just all

1323
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 11: over the Panthers. Remember when we were picking this game

1324
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 11: and I was like, should I go over yesterday Steve

1325
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 11: on the over under because you went under, remember this one,

1326
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 11: and they're just won't stop scoring. That's twenty seven fourteen

1327
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 11: in the first half with Tampa Bay on top, Baker

1328
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 11: Mayfield sixteen of twenty not over.

1329
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 2: Yet until it's going to be it's not going to

1330
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 2: be a scoreless second half.

1331
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: And it might be.

1332
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 8: It's just funny because we sat on that. I sat

1333
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 8: on it for ten minutes.

1334
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 11: You could have had a point and the Jaguars are

1335
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 11: on top of the Titans thirteen to three at the half.

1336
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 8: Back to you.

1337
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 2: Guys, all right, manci this this little spin that I

1338
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: decided we were going to do in our picks about

1339
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 2: the over under rich where if you get it right,

1340
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 2: you get a point.

1341
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 4: But if you get it wrong, you lose a point.

1342
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 2: And it worked for me for a couple of weeks,

1343
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 2: and I have bombed out on this thing, like week

1344
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 2: after week after week. I pick over, it goes under.

1345
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 2: So not only do I not get the extra point,

1346
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 2: I lose a point, which is very painful. And yes,

1347
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: the Buccaneers and the Panthers, it has been a slugfest

1348
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 2: so far as Mayfield again, two hundred and twenty five

1349
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 2: yards and three touchdowns in the first half of that game.

1350
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: Once again, this is Red Zone Radio, Steve Harbin and

1351
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 2: Rich Ornberger with you. All right, So you know, I

1352
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 2: wanted to talk a little bit about this Packers Vikings

1353
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 2: game coming up because it is a curious line. All

1354
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 2: the money's coming in on Green Bay. In fact, I

1355
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: told you yesterday the Vikings were one point favorite. Green

1356
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: Bay is now one point favorite right on the road

1357
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 2: against the Vikings. So explain to me why money is

1358
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: pouring in, Because when you have a line moving like

1359
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 2: this this dramatically and a short amount of time, there's

1360
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 2: a lot of money pouring in on the green Bay

1361
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 2: Packers to win this game in Minnesota.

1362
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 3: Explain, well, look, there are there were indications of this

1363
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 3: leading up to game day, there's no question that the

1364
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 3: line had shifted in the favor of the green Bay Packers.

1365
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 3: Not a ton, but a little bit. And then limits

1366
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 3: are increased the day of the game in terms of

1367
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 3: how much you're allowed to bet. And so if sharp

1368
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 3: money decides that green Bay is the better side, even

1369
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 3: if they're visiting Minnesota here, well then that's gonna move

1370
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 3: the market because these these handicappers and these sportsbooks are

1371
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 3: going to follow the lead of their biggest or most

1372
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 3: savvy betters. And so that explains the line movement. Now

1373
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 3: in terms of the actual game, I mean, this is

1374
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 3: a pick them, This is a pick them. I mean

1375
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 3: on a neutral field, I don't think i'd have Green

1376
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 3: Bay favored by three.

1377
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 1: I think I'd have this be a complete toss up.

1378
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: I really would.

1379
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 3: I think this is about as evenly matched a competition

1380
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 3: as you could ask.

1381
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 4: For who has a better defense?

1382
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 3: The better defense, I would say, over the course of

1383
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 3: the season goes to the Minnesota Viking.

1384
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: I would agree. So, I mean offensively, look, I like

1385
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: Jordan Love, but I mean he hasn't had the kind

1386
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:09,959
Speaker 2: of season Sam Darnold has had.

1387
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 3: Well, let me give you some positive things about Jordan Love.

1388
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 3: Over the past six or seven weeks. To start the season,

1389
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 3: he was like fourth from the bottom in terms of

1390
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 3: quarterbacks playing against the Blitz. Now since the middle of

1391
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 3: the season, he's improved that. Remember, he started the year

1392
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 3: with the knee injury. So when you have a knee injury,

1393
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 3: it limits your mobility. And when you're a mobile quarterback

1394
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 3: like Jordan Love is, whether it be in the pocket

1395
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 3: evading the rush or getting outside the pocket against the

1396
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 3: blitz and creating that can really hinder your ability to

1397
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 3: beat the Blitz. Now that his knee's gotten healthier throughout

1398
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 3: the season, now that he's playing with his full capabilities,

1399
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 3: Jordan Love is one of the top quarterbacks against the

1400
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 3: Blitz over the past six weeks during this Green Bay

1401
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 3: finish to their season. So they're going against the highest

1402
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 3: blitz rate team in the Minnesota Vikings this today in Minnesota.

1403
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: But he's also one of.

1404
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 3: The best quarterbacks right now currently performing in the NFL

1405
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 3: against the Blitz, and so that is one reasoning why

1406
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 3: maybe Green Bay has an edge in this game.

1407
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 2: By the way, Bo, you have been a big champion

1408
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: of turning the page on Jalen Hurts.

1409
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett is lighting it up.

1410
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 2: He just had a push, by the way, that was

1411
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 2: more important, That was more impressive than Jalen Hurts. He

1412
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 2: powered that on his own.

1413
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 10: He just had a touch push touchdown. I'm saying there

1414
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 10: might be a quarterback controversy in Philadelphia.

1415
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett first half twenty four to seven Eagles blow

1416
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 2: out of the Cowboys nine to fourteen and thirty three yards.

1417
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 2: He el says the rushing touchdown Canny Pickett. Dare I say, yeah,

1418
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 2: just looking really good today for the Eagles.

1419
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna go further.

1420
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say Dare I say, is

1421
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 3: the future of the Eagles at quarterback?

1422
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 4: Okay, let's say it right now.

1423
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: You don't have to.

1424
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 2: Just that update because again he's chasing a record. He

1425
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 2: ended the first half thirteen carries for forty yards. Now

1426
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 2: I want to I want to give I'm gonna give

1427
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: you an over under for Barkley's final rushing total in

1428
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 2: this game.

1429
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 4: He's give me an over under over under one hundred.

1430
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say over over, and.

1431
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: He's gonna have a huge second half in a in

1432
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: a blowout Eagles win.

1433
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: Here's the reason.

1434
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 3: Why because when when you're winning, when you have a lead,

1435
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 3: you start running the football more.

1436
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: And he's just the.

1437
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 3: Type of player who very similar to Derrick Henry. As

1438
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 3: the game rolls on, he gets better. And also all

1439
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 3: it takes for Saquon is one play where he has

1440
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 3: one guy to miss and he plays behind a really

1441
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 3: talented offensive line in Philadelphia, and then he can rack

1442
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 3: off sixty seventy eighty yards and a touchdown in the

1443
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 3: blink of an eye.

1444
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 1: So I think he's over one hundred.

1445
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: All right, So we talk about Saquon Barkley and his

1446
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 2: impact on the Seagulls team, and it gets back to

1447
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 2: that whole argument about MVP and all these champions for

1448
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. And obviously Lamar's having a phenomenal year, but

1449
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 2: has he been that much more valuable to that Ravens

1450
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 2: offense than Derrick Henry, Well, look a look at Derek.

1451
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry actually has a shot at two thousand yards.

1452
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: He does, He has a shot he does.

1453
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: He had two thousand yards. So when you talk about

1454
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 2: who has had a greater impact on the Ravens offense,

1455
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 2: could we dare say it's a draw between Lamar Jackson

1456
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:37,799
Speaker 2: and Derek Henry.

1457
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say.

1458
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 3: The quarterback comparison between these two teams is where I

1459
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 3: get hung up. So if you have Lamar sharing the

1460
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 3: backfield with either of these two backs versus Jalen Hurts

1461
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 3: sharing the backfield with either of these two backs, which

1462
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 3: running back do you give a higher opportunity for success?

1463
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 3: I give it to the running back sharing the backfield

1464
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 3: with Lamar.

1465
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 1: I just think that.

1466
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 3: There is a player of much higher value in the

1467
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 3: is sharing the same offensive backfield as Derrick Henry. So

1468
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 3: it's nothing that Derek Henry has done that is making

1469
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 3: the argument easy for me here because he's made the

1470
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:24,520
Speaker 3: argument very hard. He should be considered or in consideration

1471
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 3: for the MVP, but because his quarterback is so valuable

1472
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 3: versus Jalen Hurts, who I think has lesser value as

1473
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 3: a quarterback. I think that's the reason why say Kwan's

1474
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 3: been inserted into this conversation more, I really do.

1475
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Lamar Jackson. Let me make this clear.

1476
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 2: The guy seven an insane year, thirty nine touchdowns and

1477
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 2: four picks. He has a passer ratio of one point

1478
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 2: twenty one point six. These are insane numbers that Lamar

1479
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 2: Jackson is putting up.

1480
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 4: Curse Joe Burrow.

1481
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 2: Now forty two touchdowns, eight picks.

1482
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, listen, listen, I will.

1483
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 2: Be two touchdowns.

1484
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: But here's here's the problem.

1485
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 3: Value is a very important part of this conversation. So

1486
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 3: when you look at Joe Burrow, now, if he was

1487
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 3: also playing safety and helping that defense, you would say

1488
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,759
Speaker 3: he has the most value on that team.

1489
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: But that defense has.

1490
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 3: Been so bad that it has sort of snuffed out

1491
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 3: all the perceived value he could have to the team.

1492
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 3: Now it's not again, it's not his fault. It's the

1493
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 3: same conversation about Derrick Henry. It's nothing Derrick Henry did

1494
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 3: that takes him out of the conversation. But it's the

1495
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 3: fact that he shares the backfield with Lamar Jackson that

1496
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 3: that skews the pictures.

1497
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 4: Okay, so the Bengals are eight eight and eight.

1498
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 2: If Joe Burrow was not playing this year, yeah, what

1499
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,480
Speaker 2: would the Bengals record be abysmal?

1500
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: Like?

1501
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 4: If like the fourteen If the.

1502
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 3: Bengals had to start a Jameis Winston for example, all

1503
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 3: season one, whatever, you know, a backup quarterback, they they

1504
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 3: would be a three win team.

1505
01:11:59,439 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would be.

1506
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 2: I mean that sort of gauges again your term of value. Well,

1507
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: that is very objective. I mean it's easy to look

1508
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 2: at numbers and say, well, he's the best quarterback, he's

1509
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 2: the best running back, he's receiver.

1510
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 3: Can I can I say this? That's what I think

1511
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 3: these awards should be.

1512
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 4: I know they do that.

1513
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 2: They have an offensive Player of the year, Sakuon Barkley

1514
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 2: will win Offensive Player.

1515
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 3: But that's also heavily political because we could look at that,

1516
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 3: and by the way, all these debates, because they're subjective debates,

1517
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 3: would become popularity contests.

1518
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: That's certain at a certain level.

1519
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 2: You always bring up the popularity stamp because because okay,

1520
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:40,520
Speaker 2: so popular, who's not Patrick Patrick Mahomes is in the conversation,

1521
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 2: is Joe Burrow more popular than Lamar Jackson?

1522
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 3: Oh well yeah, well right now, no, no, I Lamar

1523
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 3: Jackson's more popular. I think Lamar and that's the reason

1524
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 3: why he has a higher favorability in terms of winning

1525
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 3: them VP.

1526
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 4: Who would you say is the most popular quarterback?

1527
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 3: Is it mahomess Patrick Mahomes, who, by the way, is

1528
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 3: having a bad season, Yes he is.

1529
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: If you look at his season I'm gonna give you

1530
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: some names.

1531
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 3: Of players who have a higher quarterback rating than Patrick Mahomes.

1532
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 3: It's gonna make your stomach turn the fact that he's

1533
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 3: in the MVP conversation, because it doesn't make sense that

1534
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 3: he's in the conversation.

1535
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: The reason why he is because of his popularity, Jamie.

1536
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 4: How about the fact that his team is fifteen to one.

1537
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 3: Right right, Well, I mean, but that's a part of it. Obviously,

1538
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 3: he's a part of it. It's the biggest part of it.

1539
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 3: But if you look at pastor rating this season and

1540
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 3: you look at where what's his name, where Patrick Mahomes

1541
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 3: falls on this, I mean he's behind.

1542
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a break, all right.

1543
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 2: We'll look over this list. And then there's the argument, well,

1544
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 2: who is he throwing the ball to? Does he have

1545
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 2: any stars? I mean he has Kelsey at the end

1546
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: of his career, Tyreek Hill is long gone. I will

1547
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 2: continue on. We get the second half six games around

1548
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 2: the NFL. This is the red zone Radio.

1549
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 3: Rogers in the shotguns, standing three yards deep in his

1550
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 3: end zone.

1551
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,759
Speaker 1: Rogers back to pass plit's coming and he's.

1552
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 8: Try for a safety.

1553
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: Aj Panessa beat the doors off.

1554
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 9: Carter Warren, the backup left tackle and dropped.

1555
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:10,520
Speaker 4: Him for the safety.

1556
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,839
Speaker 2: That's WGR Bills Radio Network, and that's why the Jets

1557
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 2: have zero points today. Twelve nothing Bills, eleven and a

1558
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 2: half minutes to go in the third quarter of that game.

1559
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 4: Steve Harbin, Rich Hornberger with you. This is Red Zone Radio.

1560
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: So we got second half's underway, very quick rundown of

1561
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 2: the scoreboard. We mentioned Bill's over the Jets, twelve nothing,

1562
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: thirteen minutes to go in the third it is the

1563
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 2: Raiders thirteen to ten on the road against the Saints.

1564
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: The Colts are coming back. They just had a twenty

1565
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 2: six yard touchdown run from Jonathan Taylor. They trailed the

1566
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 2: Giants twenty eight to twenty. Eagles still halftime twenty four

1567
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 2: to seven over the Cowboys, Bucks over the Panthers at

1568
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 2: they have twenty seven to fourteen, and midway through the

1569
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 2: third quarter the ultimate Who Cares game of the day,

1570
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 2: battling for playoffs draft positioning. Jaguars lead the Titans by

1571
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: a score at thirteen to ten. All right, completely off

1572
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 2: note for a second here, because you know my obsession

1573
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 2: with the Hall of Fame. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna ask

1574
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:12,719
Speaker 2: you about a single player, okay, and there's a reason

1575
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 2: for it. So they announced yesterday the fifteen finalists now

1576
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 2: for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Five of them

1577
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 2: first year eligible, and you know, Eli Manning's there, Vinatieri's there,

1578
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 2: usual sub Sex, Luke Key, Cleeterrell sucks. All right, those

1579
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 2: four guys, but one other guy first year of eligibility

1580
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: makes it to the final fifteen. Marshall Yonda, the guard

1581
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 2: for the Ravens, thirteen years, eight Pro Bowls, an Iowa

1582
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 2: guide to the corp. He's from Cedar Rapids, went to

1583
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 2: the University of Iowa. You played a very similar position

1584
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 2: as Yonda. How good is this guy?

1585
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:51,600
Speaker 1: He's incredible.

1586
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 3: He's incredible when you watch film or watched film of

1587
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 3: his career with the Baltimore I mean he was just

1588
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 3: a stopper in the pass protection game.

1589
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: He was a hunter when he didn't have.

1590
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 3: Work in pass pro, which means that when somehow the

1591
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 3: guard is uncovered at different points, he would go and,

1592
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 3: you know, knock the pins out of a defensive end

1593
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 3: who's rushing against his tackle, or help out his center

1594
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 3: and knock somebody out. I mean, he was a great puller.

1595
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 3: He was great front side on gap schemes like power plays.

1596
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 3: He was good run blocker, whether it be he'd be

1597
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 3: asked to zone block or otherwise. He also was there

1598
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 3: through transition of quarterback and so a very different style

1599
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 3: of offense that he amended perfectly to. He's he's one

1600
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 3: of the best offensive linemen to play the sport, so

1601
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 3: he absolutely should be in consideration for a Hall of Fame.

1602
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,440
Speaker 2: I just look at Yanda and I'm like, basically physically

1603
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 2: very similar to you during your play day. Yeah, I

1604
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 2: was listed at six three three h five Yeah.

1605
01:16:56,360 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like like he was the prototype yeah, hard

1606
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,879
Speaker 3: size during his era, yeah, and played the position.

1607
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 2: Well, he'll be in the Hall of Fame someday. First

1608
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 2: ballot might be a reach, but yeah, it's.

1609
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: Hard to die. I will say this, ballot guard.

1610
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 2: It's hard, very hard, but I will say this. I mean,

1611
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 2: Larry Allen was the exception, but we knew that was

1612
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 2: going to happen. Strongest man alive. Do you ever see

1613
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,799
Speaker 2: that bench press video of him at seven hundred pounds?

1614
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:22,440
Speaker 1: Ridiculous?

1615
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 2: Seven? I mean it's I mean, unfortunately, of course he

1616
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 2: passed this year, but seven hundred pounds anyway, I think

1617
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 2: if any of those first ballot guys should get in.

1618
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:38,839
Speaker 2: It's Vinatieri to me, Adam Vinatieri is a first ballot

1619
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer.

1620
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 4: He's the all time leading scorer in the history of

1621
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 4: the NFL.

1622
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 2: He won Super Bowls, not just won multiple Super Bowls

1623
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 2: with his kicks. Yeah, I think and by the way,

1624
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 2: Jan Stener, who was a first ballot Hall of Famer

1625
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 2: because he really revolutionized the game as the first dominant

1626
01:17:56,160 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 2: soccer style kicker way back in the day. But I mean,

1627
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 2: and a lot of people's it's a kicker, you know,

1628
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 2: then a Tierry to me is a first ballot Hall

1629
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 2: of Famer. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I know it's hard

1630
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 2: for a guy that played every down to include a

1631
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 2: kicker in that first ballot, but I mean, again, all

1632
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 2: time leading scorer in the history of the NFL, and

1633
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 2: he won multiple Super Bowls.

1634
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,640
Speaker 3: I am not one of those people who think that,

1635
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 3: you know, kicking is this part of the game that

1636
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 3: should be eliminated completely. I think it it lends drama

1637
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 3: to the game. It's good for the viewer. I think

1638
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 3: having an opportunity to lay up and score three points

1639
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 3: when when you feel like your offense is sputtering it

1640
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 3: puts a whole other complexity to the head coach decision

1641
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 3: making in place that I.

1642
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 1: Think is good for the game.

1643
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 3: So I'm not an anti kicker type of guy, but

1644
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 3: first ballot, they're way more deserving candidates.

1645
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you that Luke Keighley played only

1646
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: eight years and completely dominated.

1647
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: Complete deletely dominated.

1648
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 4: I mean that to me.

1649
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 2: I mean there was the argument about Patrick Willis, who

1650
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 2: had almost identical careers as you and I both harold it,

1651
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 2: and it took and it took several years for Willis

1652
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 2: to get in because of the short term but they

1653
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:15,799
Speaker 2: had the same length of career, basically the same career.

1654
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 2: The only difference is keik Ley also had a Defensive

1655
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 2: Player of the Year award that Willis did not have.

1656
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the weight on Keighley, right, I mean,

1657
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:26,799
Speaker 2: you completely dominant.

1658
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: You gotta get him in and his ballot.

1659
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 3: It's like just from the sheer impressiveness of him completely

1660
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 3: dominating his position from the first snap of his career

1661
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 3: until he hung it up.

1662
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he hung it up.

1663
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 3: Not unceremoniously like it wasn't like he faded hard at

1664
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 3: that he hung it up because of injury.

1665
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: Concerns.

1666
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, eight years, got it done with seven all pros.

1667
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 2: I mean he was completely dominant. All right, Well, that

1668
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 2: vote will come up before the Super Bowl. We're going

1669
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 2: to come back on the other side with a lot

1670
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 2: more on six games currently around the NFL.

1671
01:19:58,760 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 4: This is Red Zone Radio.

1672
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 2: So rolling along Hair on a very busy NFL Sunday,

1673
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 2: Week seventeen. This is Red Zone Radio. We're broadcasting live

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01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,840
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1675
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1678
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,919
Speaker 2: be all right. Second half well underway here, third quarters

1679
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 2: right now, keeping an eye on the scoreboard.

1680
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 4: Games that matter.

1681
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay needs a win and Atlanta loss to regain

1682
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: control in that NFC South, and the Buccaneers right now

1683
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 2: are threatening again. Already up twenty seven to fourteen over

1684
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 2: the Panthers. They have a second down at the Carolina

1685
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 2: twenty yard line. By the way, Rich, I did want

1686
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 2: to mention that a record was snapped this week in

1687
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: the NFL that I think will last forever.

1688
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me hear it.

1689
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 2: So the Bears lost their tenth straight game, and on

1690
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: the final play of that insanely dreadful game against Seattle,

1691
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:08,560
Speaker 2: the six to three game, Caleb Williams threw an interception

1692
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 2: on a sort of a hail Mary type pass at

1693
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 2: the end of the game. So that was his first

1694
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 2: interception in ten games. But here's the streak. So you know,

1695
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 2: he said, like most consecutive pass attempts by a rookie

1696
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 2: without an interception. Forget that record. He started nine consecutive games.

1697
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 2: He played nine games without throwing an interception, and his

1698
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: team lost all nine games. Now, I mean, when you

1699
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 2: think about that, so he was the quarterback on a

1700
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 2: team that lost nine straight games and did not throw

1701
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: a single interception in any of those games. That'll never

1702
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: be done. Begin I mean, I can promise you that'll

1703
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: never happen. Where a team will lose nine straight games

1704
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 2: and their quarterback will throw zero interceptions in those nine games.

1705
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: I think I agree with you.

1706
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 4: That is unbreakable.

1707
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: It makes close to zero sense.

1708
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 4: How and it almost was ten.

1709
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 3: Here's what's wild about the NFL is.

1710
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: Everybody's getting paid. Right.

1711
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 3: These are the top athletes, or arguably most of the

1712
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 3: top athletes in the world competing against each other some

1713
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 3: of the greatest performances you'll ever see.

1714
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 1: But also it's a team sport, so.

1715
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 3: While you'll have certain performers on certain teams, like we

1716
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 3: were just talking about Brock Bowers with the Las Vegas

1717
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 3: Raiders having offensive Rookie of the Year type stats and numbers.

1718
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 3: It is going to be a forgotten season for Bowers,

1719
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 3: not until you know his name is being recognized as

1720
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 3: one of the top tight ends in the league. It's

1721
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 3: been sort of a slow launch because how bad the

1722
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 3: Raiders are as team this year.

1723
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 1: But that's what I mean. You could have these individual.

1724
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 3: Performances that have water thrown on them by the overall

1725
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 3: play of the team. Joe Burrow with the Cincinnati Bengals

1726
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 3: is no different. This will be a forgotten or a

1727
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 3: lost season, but it's inarguably one of the best seasons

1728
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 3: we've seen a quarterback performing in a very long time.

1729
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 2: Crazy here for the Bears, right, they were four and

1730
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 2: two and they were one play away from beating the

1731
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 2: Commanders and then the Hail Mary Pass and they haven't

1732
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: won six by the way, updating Saquon Barkley, so we

1733
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 2: are now six and a half minutes to go in

1734
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 2: the third quarter, and after a slow first half, he's

1735
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 2: beginning to heat up. Now twenty one carries seventy nine yards.

1736
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 10: Can't provide a quick injury update for this game that.

1737
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 2: May Yes, what's happening. By the way, Eagles lead the

1738
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 2: Cowboys twenty seven to seven.

1739
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 10: Kenny Pickett got hit in the ribs. He is questionable

1740
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,440
Speaker 10: to return, So now Tanner McKee is playing quarterbacks.

1741
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 3: Kenny Kenny pick is probably out for the game, then bo,

1742
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 3: because didn't he originally have the rib injury coming in

1743
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 3: from the cas He did.

1744
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 2: He did, so basically they're going to hand the ball

1745
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 2: to Saquon Barkley every play the rest of the game. Yeah,

1746
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: but how much how much wear and tear do you

1747
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 2: want to put on Saquon Barkley in a game that's

1748
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: already won looking ahead to the playoffs, because obviously if

1749
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 2: you don't have a healthy Saquon Barkley in the postseason,

1750
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 2: aren't going to win any suit up.

1751
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, if they win this game, they're not. I don't

1752
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 10: think anybody on the Eagles starting lineup is going to

1753
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 10: even travel to to uh.

1754
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 4: But I mean my point is, well, I'm.

1755
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 10: Not going to play next week, so so you.

1756
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: Will really so?

1757
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you have a guy with a chance to

1758
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 4: break a record.

1759
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, I promise you have Eagles win this game. Saquon

1760
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 10: Barkley does not play next week, he doesn't play it down?

1761
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah against the Giant. I mean that's weird. I mean, well,

1762
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 2: so unless you let me ask this, I mean, do

1763
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 2: you do you go to Barkley?

1764
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,560
Speaker 4: I mean, does it matter to you?

1765
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 3: You definitely talked to him about it because you're gonna

1766
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 3: need him in the first round, so you have to

1767
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 3: talk to him and make sure he's cool with that decision.

1768
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: But if he is, you shut him down.

1769
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 2: What if he says no, well then you play? I

1770
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 2: mean I mean, I mean it's been that record's been

1771
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 2: on the books for forty years, and I have a

1772
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,640
Speaker 2: chance to break the record, and you want to sit me.

1773
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 10: He's at seventy nine yards now, So if.

1774
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 2: He would need all the game with one hundred yards,

1775
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,839
Speaker 2: he needed two hundred and sixty eight yards went into.

1776
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 10: This week two hundred and fifty eight.

1777
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 2: I think sixty eight.

1778
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: Let me ask you guys a different question.

1779
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 10: You know he's not going to play next week, all right.

1780
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 3: So if you if I give you names like Russell

1781
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 3: Wilson or Brock Purdy, or I give you names like

1782
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 3: Justin Fields or Derek Carr, would you say to a

1783
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 3: tongue of IYI loa, those names would they belong in

1784
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 3: the m VP conversation? No, Okay, I just named a

1785
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 3: bunch of quarterbacks who either have a better or almost

1786
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 3: identical passer rating to Patrick Mahomes.

1787
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 12: Okay, But but the conversation we were just having about

1788
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 12: about Caleb Williams, or we were having about the MVP

1789
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 12: conversation with Saquon Barkley, or were having about any Pro

1790
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 12: Bowl conversation, anything, any conversation.

1791
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 3: When it's coming to individual awards and accreditations in this league.

1792
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,759
Speaker 3: When you tell me it's not a popularity contest, you're wrong.

1793
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: You're wrong, You're wrong.

1794
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 2: But another stat and I nail this because it's there

1795
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 2: in every single NFL reference book or website.

1796
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 4: Quarterbacks have win loss record.

1797
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 3: Justin hurt it's the only an MVP Well, I mean,

1798
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 3: I meant Baker Mayfield, Jalen Hurts.

1799
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, But getting back to Patrick Mahomes, Arnold, they're gonna

1800
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 2: look past his passer ray and say the only stat

1801
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 2: that matters is wins and losses. I think he's at

1802
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 2: the top of the list at fifteen and one.

1803
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: I get it. I completely get it. I know why.

1804
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 3: I know why he's at the top of the conversation

1805
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 3: or being of those being considered for the award that

1806
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 3: he should not win this season because he is not

1807
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 3: the most valuable player in this league.

1808
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,719
Speaker 1: He's not. He's not He's not the most valuable player

1809
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 1: on his.

1810
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 2: Team this How many how many wins would the Chiefs

1811
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 2: have if Mahomes set out this year?

1812
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 3: Okay, how about this, if Mahomes sat out, I could

1813
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 3: give you a list of probably ten quarterbacks on that

1814
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 3: team where the Chiefs would look more dominant with this season.

1815
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 1: There's and you.

1816
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,799
Speaker 3: Could too, Steve. Look, there's no argument over this. Patrick

1817
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 3: Mahomes had a bad season. He is a bottom bottom

1818
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 3: half player at his position. Right, So they have what

1819
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 3: they call the adjusted QBR.

1820
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 2: So there's what we hear the passer rating, and that's

1821
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 2: based purely on passing numbers.

1822
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 4: But they have the QBR.

1823
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 2: Okay, now here are the top five quarterbacks this year

1824
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 2: in QBR.

1825
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 3: Which, by the way, actors in team success correct.

1826
01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:01,759
Speaker 2: So Lamar Jackson won Josh Allen two, Joe Burrow three,

1827
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels four, and Patrick Mahomes five.

1828
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 3: Okay, so if that's your top five, guess who deserves

1829
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 3: to win the award. Joe Burrow because the fact that

1830
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 3: he's played on the worst team of all of those

1831
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 3: quarterbacks and he is in the top five in that

1832
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 3: adjusted QBR means he is without question adding the most

1833
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 3: value to his roster.

1834
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 2: But Lamar Jackson is number one in both QBR and

1835
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 2: passer Rating.

1836
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 4: Now Lamar Jarember one in both.

1837
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson oddly may not win this award because I

1838
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,520
Speaker 3: do think that Josh Allen again is the more popular

1839
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 3: pick this year.

1840
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:46,520
Speaker 2: Well, there's also collarity contest. Well there's also MVP fatigue.

1841
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 2: This has happened back in Michael Jordan's years. He should

1842
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 2: have been the MVP every year, but one year they

1843
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 2: decided to give it to Charles Barklay and Phoenix.

1844
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,520
Speaker 4: Another year they gave it to Karl Malone.

1845
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:03,679
Speaker 2: With the Utah Jazz, And it's like, I mean, why, Okay,

1846
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 2: So Jordan is at the top of his game, He's

1847
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 2: playing every game, he is the most valuable player in

1848
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 2: the world. Yeah, well you can't give it to him

1849
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 2: every year. Really, I love this about the NHL. They

1850
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 2: have what they call the Heart Trophy, which is their MVP.

1851
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 2: They gave it to Wayne Gretzky eight straight years.

1852
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: Yeah they didn't care.

1853
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 4: They didn't care.

1854
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 2: It was like, Okay, why are we arguing about this?

1855
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 2: He ended up winning that award eight straight years. I

1856
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 2: love to see that.

1857
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, why not, because that's the way it should be.

1858
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 3: He inarguably was the most valuable player for his team

1859
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 3: in the league every year, year after year.

1860
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 1: Same thing with Lebron James for most of the years.

1861
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 2: The fact that Lebron only won four MVPs and has

1862
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 2: won one in ten years as a joke.

1863
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 1: It's a joke.

1864
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 3: Look, so my point stands. Look, Patrick Mahomes shouldn't even

1865
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 3: be in the conversation for Most Valuable Player this year,

1866
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 3: shouldn't even be in the conversation in the vicinity of

1867
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 3: this conversation this year. And so it just goes further

1868
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 3: to prove my point that these individual awards when you

1869
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 3: introduce subjectivity, and we're not just heralding players for their

1870
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 3: statistical achievements, which there are plenty of stats, Like you know,

1871
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,719
Speaker 3: we could laud the stats that I have no problem

1872
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 3: with that because those are factual, those are based into

1873
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 3: objectivity and in reality. But we love to we love

1874
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 3: the pomp and circumstance of having the argument over who

1875
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,600
Speaker 3: really is adding more value to their team? Is it

1876
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 3: Josh Allen or is Lamar Jackson? Is it Patrick Mahomes.

1877
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 3: The answer is no, because if I took seven or

1878
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 3: eight quarterbacks around the NFL and I put him on

1879
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 3: the Chiefs, the Chiefs would have looked better this season,

1880
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 3: and there's no questioning that. So he did not add

1881
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 3: the most value to his team this season. He didn't

1882
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 3: add the most value to his team when compared to

1883
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 3: the immensely more valuable players across the league. You know what,

1884
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 3: you know who probably should win the most valuable player

1885
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 3: for the Chiefs is all of the players who screwed

1886
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 3: things up against the Chiefs because there were so many

1887
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 3: mistakes paid against it.

1888
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 2: I know that. By the way, Saquon Barkley is going

1889
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 2: wild right now.

1890
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 1: I told you, buddy.

1891
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 2: Second, Hey, god, Barkley is going wild. He's over one hundred,

1892
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 2: he's at one hundred and fifteen yards, and he is

1893
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 2: piling up numbers right now. You're telling me, Bo, you

1894
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 2: think they'll sit him if he's within shouting distance of

1895
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:24,879
Speaker 2: the record.

1896
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:27,759
Speaker 4: Now they're running him literally on every play.

1897
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 10: They're giving him the He had twenty one carries to

1898
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 10: start to drive. He's at twenty six now, so he's

1899
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,879
Speaker 10: gotten the ball five times. I just can you imagine

1900
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 10: if you put him in next week to try to

1901
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:39,959
Speaker 10: break the record and he goes down.

1902
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 2: Well, I know, I mean, if you lose Barkley, you're

1903
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 2: not going anywhere. I mean, especially with a hobbling hurts situation.

1904
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 2: So but they're literally running him on every single play run.

1905
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 10: I think if he gets to the point where he

1906
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 10: only needs under one hundred yards, maybe they'll try to

1907
01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 10: let him get it.

1908
01:31:57,800 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 4: But well, right now they're trying to get him as men.

1909
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, he is piling up carries right now, twenty

1910
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 2: seven carries on the game. Yeah, so you know you're

1911
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 2: just like, well, in a game that's over, I mean

1912
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 2: it's twenty seven to seven Eagles over the Cowboys.

1913
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 10: We'll never say, everybody, he doesn't strike me as the

1914
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 10: guy that cares either like he he doesn't seem like

1915
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 10: he really cares.

1916
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 2: Well, that's one of those things you can look back

1917
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 2: late in your career or after you're done, Like what

1918
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 2: was I thinking?

1919
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1920
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 3: Right, See, that's where I agree with Steve is he's

1921
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:31,560
Speaker 3: going to have people around him because he's obviously a

1922
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 3: very famous and popular player, who are going to give

1923
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 3: him a call or shoot him at text and say

1924
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 3: keep going, buddy, Like you don't think Tom Brady has

1925
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:41,640
Speaker 3: been in touch with him a couple of times this

1926
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 3: season to motivate him to achieve what I mean, Like,

1927
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it comes from random spots, but the

1928
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 3: motivation to touch greatness while you're a young man, sometimes

1929
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 3: it's lost on you. And I remember this happening during

1930
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 3: my career and it wasn't anything as illustrious as Saquon Barkley's,

1931
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 3: but I remember.

1932
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 1: Feeling, Ah, this is just work.

1933
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:04,799
Speaker 3: This is just another normal work day, and it's like, no, buddy,

1934
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 3: Like you're on a team that's in the postseason, like

1935
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,719
Speaker 3: pick up a pebble, you know, and you need those.

1936
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 1: People around you to remind that.

1937
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 3: And so hopefully Nick Sirianni in this offensive staff have

1938
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:16,719
Speaker 3: a couple people in his ear going, hey.

1939
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 1: Buddy, we get it.

1940
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 3: If you need rest, we also understand like that we

1941
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 3: need you for the postseason, but whatever you need to

1942
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 3: do over the next couple of games, we're supportive of that.

1943
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: I hope that's the conversation happening, all right. They're leaving

1944
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 1: it up to him.

1945
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 4: Quick up day.

1946
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay now up forty one fourteen over the Panthers

1947
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 2: as Baker Mayfield twenty three to twenty seven, three hundred

1948
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 2: nine yards, four touchdowns, no picks. That is a day,

1949
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 2: all right? Will continue on which one of these games

1950
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 2: we're hoping will come down to an exciting finish.

1951
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 4: We'll find out. This is Red Zone Radio. Here's the

1952
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:50,759
Speaker 4: snap of Decker.

1953
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 2: Oh the puttus block screw prep with the twenty to

1954
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 2: the town touchtop Tampa Bay fucks fuck the Putton, JJ

1955
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 2: Russell stoop put up head score A lucky ducky. That's

1956
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 2: ninety eight Rock Buccaneers Radio Network and the Box very

1957
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 2: much keeping their playoff hopes alive as they're blowing out

1958
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 2: the Panthers forty one to fourteen three minutes ago in

1959
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 2: the third quarter.

1960
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 5: Would you like the story on the lucky ducky? So

1961
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 5: there was a duck on the field. The camera was

1962
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 5: focused on the duck and as it happens. Buccaneers blocked

1963
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:24,600
Speaker 5: the punts.

1964
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 1: And guess who scored it.

1965
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 3: Bucky Irvin, the former Oregon Duck gets in the end

1966
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 3: zone for the box.

1967
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 1: All right, So.

1968
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:34,639
Speaker 4: Bucky Irving, former Duck and the Duck on the field.

1969
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 1: Duck on the field.

1970
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 5: It was bought by JJ Russell though, Yeah, but Irving

1971
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 5: scooped it up.

1972
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the one that scored the touchdown. Yeah, So

1973
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 2: Bucky the former Duck and the Duck on the field.

1974
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 4: I like that.

1975
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 2: By whist Cemetery once again, Red Zone Radio. We're alive

1976
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:51,919
Speaker 2: from the tai Iraq dot com studios. Life is miserable

1977
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 2: right now for the New York Jets.

1978
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:57,679
Speaker 4: Wow, just mid game Giants too.

1979
01:34:57,840 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1980
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, let's let's start with the Jets. They

1981
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 4: have a zero.

1982
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 2: By the way, last week we had our first shutout

1983
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 2: this year in the NFL.

1984
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 4: Did you know this?

1985
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 1: So not?

1986
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 4: This was unbelievable.

1987
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 2: So the Monday night game, which nobody saw, Yeah, was

1988
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 2: a shutout?

1989
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, Week sixteen.

1990
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 2: There had never been a season that had gone past

1991
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 2: Week eight without at least one shutout, and we had

1992
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 2: one in Week sixteen. At the time, I was like,

1993
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 2: was that the first shutout in the NFL this season.

1994
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 2: The answer is yes, green Bay over the Saints. So

1995
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 2: that was the first shutout of the entire year. And

1996
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 2: no season had ever gone past eight weeks without at

1997
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 2: least one shutout Week sixteen.

1998
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 3: What's so crazy about that game is you look at

1999
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 3: the box score and Green Bay, I mean, from the

2000
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 3: standpoint of quarterback comparison, the Spencer Rattler probably played not

2001
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 3: as efficient of a game, but a better game passing wise.

2002
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 3: And I mean the Saints just stink. They just think

2003
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 3: in so many different ways.

2004
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 2: And so they were the team in the NFL for

2005
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 2: two weeks. They were they They had the blaw win

2006
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 2: against Carolina. Then they went to Dallas and blew the

2007
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:22,679
Speaker 2: doors off of them. Then they lost seven straight games.

2008
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 2: Dennis Allen lost his job. I want to ask you

2009
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 2: about the Bills.

2010
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let me hear it all right.

2011
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 2: So here we are, the Bills well on their way

2012
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 2: to making their record thirteen and three, undefeated at home

2013
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 2: this year. Now, last year, a lot of people thought

2014
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 2: it's going to be the year because the Chiefs had

2015
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 2: to come to Buffalo in the playoffs. Remember this, that

2016
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 2: was the whole knock on Mahomes if there was any knock, Well, yeah,

2017
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 2: he's never won. He wrote playoff games don't count the

2018
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 2: Super Bowls or neutral sites.

2019
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 4: He had never had a road playoff game.

2020
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:50,719
Speaker 2: Then he had to go to Buffalo and he won.

2021
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 2: Then he had to go to Baltimore and he won.

2022
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,600
Speaker 2: It didn't matter where he goes. He wins fifteen and

2023
01:36:55,640 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 2: three postseason play the Bills. Are you feel like, Okay,

2024
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 2: you keep hanging around right, long enough, the football gods

2025
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:09,599
Speaker 2: are gonna give you one, right. I mean, the Bills

2026
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 2: have never won a Super Bowl. They lost four in

2027
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 2: a row, and here they've been knocking on the door

2028
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 2: for the last several years, and you feel like, if

2029
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a year. Chiefs are the worst fifteen

2030
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 2: to one team ever Bills and.

2031
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 1: The Bills beat them, they beat them, and it's like, yeah,

2032
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 1: but the.

2033
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 2: Bills always seem to beat the Chiefs in the regular season,

2034
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 2: they can't beat them in the postseason.

2035
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 4: What's your gut feeling on the Buffalo Bills.

2036
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 3: Okay, my gut feeling on the Buffalo Bills is they

2037
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:44,600
Speaker 3: are the best looking postseason team from the outside looking in.

2038
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 3: I think they're built the best in the AFC. If

2039
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 3: I had a guess right now, if we're just going

2040
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 3: to simulate these games, they're the team that represents AFC

2041
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl. However, I'm a realist and I'm

2042
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 3: aware how difficult it is to beat the same team twice.

2043
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 3: And I'm also aware that these two teams are vastly

2044
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 3: different now than when they faced each other earlier this year,

2045
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 3: and so there's a lot that we have to add

2046
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:14,719
Speaker 3: into this plus playoff experience. More of the Chiefs players

2047
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 3: have played in Super Bowls than Bills players. It's just

2048
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 3: a fact they're back to back super Bowl champs. This

2049
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 3: roster understands how to win in the postseason. Those experiences

2050
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 3: the same we were talking about rookie quarterbacks coming into

2051
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 3: the NFL with more college experience versus less. You always

2052
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 3: want more. If you can have your brothers, you always

2053
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 3: want more. Same with playoff experience. It helps teams navigate

2054
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 3: the playoff experience better when they've been there before and

2055
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 3: when they've been there recently.

2056
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 1: And obviously the Chiefs have that edge there.

2057
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 2: So I mean, my question is we always hear about visualization, sure, right,

2058
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 2: you know, can you see it in order to do it?

2059
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 4: Can you see it.

2060
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 2: Can you see Patrick Mahomes walking on the field at

2061
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:08,639
Speaker 2: Arrowhead or whatever they call it these days and hugging

2062
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 2: a victorious Josh Allen.

2063
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 4: I could in Kansas City?

2064
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:13,639
Speaker 1: I could.

2065
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 2: I could well if he visualize it, then I guess

2066
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:16,519
Speaker 2: it could happen.

2067
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 1: It could happen.

2068
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 3: If the question is can it happened, the answer is absolutely,

2069
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 3: will It is a very different conversation, but ken it happened.

2070
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:25,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

2071
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,959
Speaker 3: The Bills, again, in my estimation, are the best AFC

2072
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 3: team playing right now.

2073
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 10: Has Josh Allen been a better quarterback this year than

2074
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:32,839
Speaker 10: Patrick Mahomes?

2075
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 1: There's no doubt.

2076
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 10: Then, Yeah, why wouldn't the Bill be able to go

2077
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:35,720
Speaker 10: in too Kansas City and win?

2078
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 4: Guys, we have a game. It's the Giants Colts game.

2079
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 2: So as Giants fans are losing their minds early when

2080
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 2: this team took a twenty one to three lead over

2081
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 2: the Colts, Colts now have a second and five at

2082
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 2: the Giants fifteen yard line. We got twelve minutes to

2083
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 2: go on the fourth quarter and the Colts are down

2084
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 2: twenty eight to twenty. Joe Flacofter slow start is heating up.

2085
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor is just putting up some numbers. He's got

2086
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 2: already one carries, one hundred and twenty three yards and

2087
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:04,639
Speaker 2: a couple of scores. So the Colts right now trying

2088
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 2: to get even in this game against the Giants.

2089
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:09,719
Speaker 4: Do we have that game anywhere?

2090
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 1: Guys?

2091
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean on a streaming TV in here.

2092
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 2: I oh, that's it.

2093
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, we are still We're still kind.

2094
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 4: Of dark in this place.

2095
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 2: That's okay. By the way, the Bills just scored again,

2096
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:28,559
Speaker 2: So I mean, Jesus, I mean, is this the worst

2097
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 2: indignity of the career of Aaron Rodgers? How about they

2098
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 2: get shut out today? Yeah, thirty three to nothing?

2099
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 1: Right now? Bill lead the Jets.

2100
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 10: You know how badly Aaron Rodgers wants to throw a

2101
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 10: touchdown to DeVonta Adams today to get that number five hundred.

2102
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,480
Speaker 3: There's no doubt he would love for it to beat DeVante.

2103
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 3: There's no question about that. Here's the thing about the

2104
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 3: Jets and Aaron Rodgers. This experiment has been a failure.

2105
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 3: Even if the Jets make it to the postseason next year,

2106
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess if they win the Super Bowl

2107
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 3: with Aaron Rodgers next year, you say to yourself, like,

2108
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 3: oh my goodness, oh my goodness, like it was all

2109
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 3: worth it.

2110
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 1: We struggled so much.

2111
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:09,120
Speaker 3: And of course, you know, it's such a New York

2112
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 3: Jets storyline that Aaron Rodgers gets hurt the first season,

2113
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 3: then turns into poor performance in his second year with US,

2114
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 3: and then he goes out and has a super Bowl.

2115
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 1: Year with US.

2116
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 3: Okay, but outside of that, even if they make the

2117
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 3: postseason next year and say get knocked out in the

2118
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 3: first or second round, I mean, do you re sign him?

2119
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 2: Okay, let's slow down.

2120
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, first of all, this is not

2121
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:30,320
Speaker 4: just Aaron Rodgers.

2122
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 2: This Jets defense, this vaunted Jets defense has absolutely collapsed, collapsed.

2123
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:39,599
Speaker 2: All right.

2124
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:40,759
Speaker 4: The Colts have just scored.

2125
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna guess you're gonna the version to try

2126
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:44,880
Speaker 2: to tie up this game.

2127
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco cannot be stopped right now.

2128
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:52,599
Speaker 3: But I mean, yeah, I think I think the proof

2129
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:54,800
Speaker 3: is in the put in. I don't I don't think

2130
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:59,400
Speaker 3: how that can be argued at this point, alec long debate.

2131
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 2: All right, So here we go right now, and Brian

2132
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:06,759
Speaker 2: Dabele is losing on the sidelines. It's amazing Brian Dable

2133
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 2: has survived this season.

2134
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it really.

2135
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 3: Is again it's a little bit of like what you

2136
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 3: fire him? While I mean you just sort of turn

2137
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 3: into the Jets, I mean.

2138
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 2: Are the Bears. The Bears may have the worst interim

2139
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 2: coach in the history of the NFL. Is there any

2140
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 2: arguing that it.

2141
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 1: Just it just doesn't It almost doesn't matter.

2142
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 2: What was the end of that game for the Bears?

2143
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 2: What was what was going on? How about the time

2144
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 2: out after the incomplete pass? It has been sweet.

2145
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:40,639
Speaker 3: Misery and Chica I mean and and also there were

2146
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 3: points earlier this season where Chicago fans were puffing out

2147
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:45,519
Speaker 3: their chests a little bit.

2148
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:48,080
Speaker 1: They were like, whoa, we may have something here this year.

2149
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 2: They were foreign too.

2150
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 10: In fairness to Thomas Brown, I think anybody would struggle,

2151
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 10: Like if if our boss, Scott Shapiro came to me

2152
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:56,760
Speaker 10: and said, Hey, Steve's going to be out, so you

2153
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:59,599
Speaker 10: have to host four hours of contown to kick again

2154
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 10: a red zone.

2155
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:02,680
Speaker 2: R guess what you would do it much better than

2156
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 2: Thomas Brown is doing this, And they no idea.

2157
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 4: I could promise you that the two.

2158
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:10,719
Speaker 5: Point conversion was bobbled and screwed up. It is twenty

2159
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 5: eight to twenty six Giants. Unfortunately, for the Giants.

2160
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 2: Still on top, all right, but still ten almost eleven

2161
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,759
Speaker 2: minutes to go, so a long time here. Giants easily

2162
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 2: could cough up this game. All right, Let's find out

2163
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 2: what is trending right now. Moncey is always trending sometimes so,

2164
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 2: I mean Monzie was trying to explain to me rich yesterday.

2165
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 2: So she had a heartbreaking loss forced her into a

2166
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 2: third place game instead of the championship game.

2167
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 11: I lost to a kicker, Brandon Aubrey twenty one points, so.

2168
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:48,640
Speaker 4: A killer, a kicker that you have no respect for.

2169
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 2: Richer was literally the difference between her being in the

2170
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:58,760
Speaker 2: championship game and the third place Yeah, for kid re

2171
01:43:58,840 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 2: enemies right now, I'm.

2172
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 3: Big respect for kickers. I just don't think they belong

2173
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 3: on the first ballot getting.

2174
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 1: Into the Hall of Fame.

2175
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 8: No, I'm with you.

2176
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 11: I don't know how twenty one points and I lose

2177
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 11: going to the championship game.

2178
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,839
Speaker 8: Oh, I was so mad. I'm never playing Fantasy again.

2179
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 1: Now.

2180
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 2: I don't even know.

2181
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 11: Because she has Baker Mayfield, so I don't even it

2182
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 11: doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. He's piling it up and

2183
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:23,759
Speaker 11: we'll get there. The bills are piling it up against

2184
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 11: the Jets. Thirty three is zero after three quarters. In

2185
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:29,799
Speaker 11: case you guys miss this, though, I don't know if

2186
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 11: Aaron Rodgers has ever gone through this, but he threw

2187
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 11: a pick and then he tried to chase down the

2188
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 11: Buffalo player and throw him out of bounds.

2189
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 8: Well he got called for unnecessary roughness.

2190
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:43,720
Speaker 2: Nice so frustration. I like that.

2191
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 11: And even the referee was laughing as he was saying

2192
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:50,679
Speaker 11: unnecessary roughness on Aaron Rodgers because I don't think they'd

2193
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 11: ever called that.

2194
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 8: So at least he's got that going for him.

2195
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 6: Ah Ho.

2196
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:56,639
Speaker 2: Mayfield just through his fifth to of course, he did.

2197
01:44:56,680 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 8: Congratulations brief for winning third place. I'm happy for you.

2198
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:01,920
Speaker 8: The Raiders aren't beating the.

2199
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:04,720
Speaker 11: Saints nineteen to ten early in the fourth quarter, and

2200
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 11: you know what she also has Jayalen McMillan, Are you

2201
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 11: freakingkidding me right now?

2202
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 8: I can't, the.

2203
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 11: Giant says, you guys heard the Colts try to go

2204
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 11: for a two point conversion to tie the game, but

2205
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 11: it was unsuccessful, So the Giants are still on top

2206
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:17,599
Speaker 11: twenty eight to twenty six, plenty of time.

2207
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 8: Early in the fourth quarter, the Eagles are playing the

2208
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 8: rest of this.

2209
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:22,639
Speaker 11: Game without Kenny Pickett.

2210
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 8: Tanner McKee is in the game. This is his first

2211
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 8: NFL game ever.

2212
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:29,680
Speaker 11: He did throw a touchdown pass to AJ Brown and

2213
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 11: then AJ Brown threw the ball in the stands.

2214
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 8: But I think they got the ball back. I think

2215
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 8: they got the ball back. Dom was out there in

2216
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 8: the stands asking for.

2217
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 1: A back, Big Domb, Yes, Big Dom.

2218
01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:42,479
Speaker 8: He was in the stands asking for a back.

2219
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 11: So I think they got the ball back. But the

2220
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 11: Eagles are beating the cout Boys thirty four to seven

2221
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 11: early in the fourth. Yes, Kenny Pickett took a hit

2222
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 11: to the ribs, which was already an issue.

2223
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:52,879
Speaker 8: They're playing without.

2224
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:54,839
Speaker 11: Jalen Hurts because he's still in concussion protocol.

2225
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:56,760
Speaker 8: So Tanner McKee in the game.

2226
01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 11: Saquon Barkley twenty eight carries one hundred and thirty two

2227
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 11: yards all Buccaneers against the Panthers.

2228
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:03,879
Speaker 8: Baker Mayfield twenty seven.

2229
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 11: Of thirty two, three hundred and fifty nine yards and

2230
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:10,200
Speaker 11: five touchdowns. Forty eight to fourteen is the score early

2231
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 11: in the fourth quarter.

2232
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 8: Jaguars are beating the Titans twenty to thirteen.

2233
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:17,680
Speaker 11: Late in the fourth games to come, Dolphins will be

2234
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 11: without t A Tokovailoa and wide receiver Jalen Waddle for

2235
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 11: their game against the Browns. Packers wide receiver Christian Watson

2236
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 11: is inactive against the Vikings. And lastly, here one more

2237
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 11: thing about Brock Bowers. You guys were talking about the

2238
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:31,760
Speaker 11: most receiving yards by our rookie tight end. Yeah, he

2239
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:35,080
Speaker 11: has now set the single season rookie record for the

2240
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:36,640
Speaker 11: most receptions.

2241
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 8: Oh so he has one hundred and seven.

2242
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:41,200
Speaker 11: Maybe now has more, but he passed Pukanakua who had

2243
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:44,720
Speaker 11: one hundred and five and twenty twenty three. Malik Neighbors

2244
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:47,599
Speaker 11: though for the Giants last I checked, had one hundred

2245
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:49,720
Speaker 11: and nine or one hundred and one, so he might

2246
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 11: now have one hundred and two. So Malik Neighbors is

2247
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 11: right there with Brock Bowers to see if they can

2248
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 11: set the single season rookie record for the most reception.

2249
01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 2: All right, a lot of this is skewed because they're

2250
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:01,719
Speaker 2: playing more games else.

2251
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 1: I mean again, we are.

2252
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 11: That's where we are, all right, hate the player, hate

2253
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:08,639
Speaker 11: the game.

2254
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:12,679
Speaker 4: Congratulates Brie on her big third place.

2255
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 8: We're not going to.

2256
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 10: Congratulate once said she's happy for Brie. I don't think

2257
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:20,720
Speaker 10: she is. I hope she said sarcastic.

2258
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:23,679
Speaker 1: That is that is what that is a bold face.

2259
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:25,639
Speaker 8: Locks of course, I hope she trips on her way

2260
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 8: to the car well.

2261
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 4: The idea of losing does not resonate in any way with.

2262
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 8: It does not.

2263
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:35,480
Speaker 1: I hope she loses her fantasy password.

2264
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 8: By the way's exactly it.

2265
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 2: I think that the Eagles are determined to have Sakwan

2266
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 2: Barkley break the record for most carries in a game.

2267
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:49,759
Speaker 2: He is literally carrying the ball on every single play

2268
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 2: right now.

2269
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 4: And he just rattled up another huge run.

2270
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 2: So now he's up to one hundred and sixty seven yards.

2271
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 2: In this game, they are just going to run running,

2272
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:01,800
Speaker 2: They're going to try to get the two hundred and

2273
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 2: sixty eight yards in this game. Eleven and a half

2274
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:06,920
Speaker 2: minutes to go, the Eagles are up thirty four to

2275
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 2: seven still time, so the fact that he could get

2276
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 2: hurt in a blowout game does not matter. The idea

2277
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 2: that he wants this record. It's one hundred percent clear

2278
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 2: he wants the record, and he is running the ball

2279
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 2: on every single play.

2280
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 10: He is at one sixty seven, so he needs one hundred.

2281
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 4: And one hundred one now to break the record.

2282
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 10: He might play next week, so I will retract my

2283
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:28,160
Speaker 10: previous statement he might.

2284
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 4: He also said that the Cowboys are going to win

2285
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:31,000
Speaker 4: this game.

2286
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, and you want to retract that could have been

2287
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:34,600
Speaker 10: five dollars richer, Steve, but you didn't take that.

2288
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 1: I should have.

2289
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 2: He was like, I'll bet you five dollars. I'll bet

2290
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:40,559
Speaker 2: you five dollars. I'm like five sounds like a thousand

2291
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:43,639
Speaker 2: to me. I hate losing even a penny. All right,

2292
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:47,639
Speaker 2: So are they taking him out? Did they just take

2293
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 2: Barkley out?

2294
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 10: He may be taking a breather. Olik Neighbor's touchdown.

2295
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 5: Oh my god, the league Neighbors touchdown number three, Yes,

2296
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:00,680
Speaker 5: there it is.

2297
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 4: The Giants say we are gonna win this game.

2298
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:08,320
Speaker 1: Wow wow wow wow.

2299
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 2: All right, So where are we right now? What do

2300
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 2: we have with the Giants Colts? What's happening here? Guys?

2301
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:15,360
Speaker 10: Malik Neighbors just scored. It is thirty four to twenty

2302
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 10: six New York with eight thirty nine to go, ending.

2303
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 2: The pat All right, so the Giants determined not to

2304
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 2: have By the way, the Giants oen eight at home

2305
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:25,720
Speaker 2: this year.

2306
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 4: This is their last home game of the year.

2307
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 2: Go out a winning is that enough to say Brian Daviles'

2308
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 2: job is to win that last home game after an

2309
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 2: o and eight home start and go one and eight.

2310
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 10: I love when they panned the crowd in this game

2311
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 10: and everybody's just pissed off, just fuming mad.

2312
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 4: By the way Drew Lock. Are you ready for these

2313
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 4: numbers for Drew Locke?

2314
01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 1: Oo's hear them?

2315
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 2: So Drew Lock in this game has a perfect passer

2316
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 2: rating a few of those that have been in the

2317
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 2: history of the NFL. He's fourteen of seventeen, two hundred

2318
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 2: and fifty three yards, four touchdowns, and no picks.

2319
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:00,040
Speaker 4: So that is a.

2320
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 5: Perfect one p fifty eight point three passer. Ray do

2321
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 5: appear to be right now? Finally, yeah, Lock is a

2322
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 5: better quarterback than Tommy DeVito.

2323
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 2: Drew Lock is the future of the Giant Hang the batter.

2324
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:18,840
Speaker 3: I mean they're Super Bowl twenty twenty six winners. I

2325
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:21,800
Speaker 3: mean for the twenty twenty five season, obviously, because if

2326
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 3: you start Drew Lock from here on out, I mean,

2327
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 3: who says who says that back to back to back

2328
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 3: Super Bowls are impossible in New York?

2329
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 1: Yes? Or yes?

2330
01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:34,639
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's it. It feels like it's it's

2331
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:35,680
Speaker 3: already predetermined.

2332
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 2: Fourteen of seventeen, two hundred and fifty three yards, four touchdowns.

2333
01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 2: You see, that's the thing. Brian Dabele was known as

2334
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 2: the quarterback whisper, right, the guy that suddenly took Josh

2335
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 2: Allen and Rad tallon and made him a superstar quarterback

2336
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 2: maybe Drew Lock. See the whole thing is that you

2337
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 2: know his predecessor at quarterback, couldn't hear Dable? Drew locks

2338
01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 2: in lock step of Brian Dable right now and you

2339
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:03,680
Speaker 2: see the results, a perfect passer rating. He is the

2340
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:05,440
Speaker 2: future of the New York Jacks.

2341
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 3: Here's the thing about the Giants. The Giants are on

2342
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 3: the doorstep of potentially another rebuild after the Daniel Jones

2343
01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:18,680
Speaker 3: era and the Brian Dabole hiring did not work out.

2344
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 1: When you really.

2345
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:23,480
Speaker 3: Rewind the clock to the last time they were successful,

2346
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 3: what did it take. It took a team that was

2347
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 3: built by a coach with a tremendous amount of experience

2348
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 3: to build a culture. Okay, there is a coach who

2349
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 3: right now is recruiting for UNC who is going to

2350
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 3: be available for hire because there is a one million

2351
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:47,880
Speaker 3: dollar buyout that kicks in in the middle of the summer.

2352
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:51,559
Speaker 3: If the Giants were smart, and I don't know if

2353
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 3: they are. I don't know if they are, but if

2354
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 3: they were smart, they would seriously consider and kick the

2355
01:51:57,479 --> 01:51:59,720
Speaker 3: tires on hiring Bill Belichick.

2356
01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 4: We have an update. I'm sorry to interrupt, but we

2357
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:03,599
Speaker 4: have a very important update.

2358
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:03,720
Speaker 11: Bo.

2359
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 4: Did you want to break this one or should I

2360
01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 4: just uh?

2361
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 10: The Hills are up forty to nothing now on the

2362
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 10: New York Jets. Well, Mitch Trubisky just threw a sixty

2363
01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:13,719
Speaker 10: nine yard touchdown pass.

2364
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,080
Speaker 4: And in case people need to reminded, Mitch Trubisky does

2365
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:19,360
Speaker 4: play for the Bills Josh Allen this game and they're

2366
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 4: still scoring the Jets. That's Mitchell.

2367
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:29,600
Speaker 2: Sorry, apologize. I like saying Pat Mahomes. It's Patrick Mahomes.

2368
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 2: You say the whole Mitchell Trubisky.

2369
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 1: It's it's, it's it.

2370
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:39,080
Speaker 2: Is still officially Mitchell Trubisky forty to nothing.

2371
01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 3: But but imagine Belichick back on the New York Giants sideline.

2372
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:46,880
Speaker 3: It makes sense from a historical perspective, where he started

2373
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:49,439
Speaker 3: as a defensive coordinator and made a name for himself

2374
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 3: on the Parcels staff. All of a sudden, he comes

2375
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 3: back home to New York finishes out his career. You

2376
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 3: know best, Don Shula's the winning his head coach in

2377
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 3: NFL history. I'm saying right now that the New York

2378
01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 3: Giants fire Brian Dable, they hire Bill Belichick this offense.

2379
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:08,560
Speaker 4: He just took his dream job. He just said he

2380
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:09,800
Speaker 4: was his dream job.

2381
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 3: If it was dream job, then there wouldn't be a decrease.

2382
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:16,479
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, what would it do to

2383
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:19,879
Speaker 2: the Belichick legacy if he were to take the Giants

2384
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 2: job and have five and twelve five and twelve and

2385
01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 2: then gets fired the third year.

2386
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:28,520
Speaker 4: What would that do to his legacy?

2387
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it would tarnish some of his legacy

2388
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:33,680
Speaker 1: because again.

2389
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 2: The idea that down the round Tom Brady that made.

2390
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 3: They would go further down the road of proving that

2391
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:43,040
Speaker 3: without Tom Brady there is no Bill Belichick. But I listen,

2392
01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:46,479
Speaker 3: I hesitate not to give any head coach who's had

2393
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 3: success with a great quarterback their flowers, because.

2394
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 1: That's how you win in this league.

2395
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 3: Again, We've done this a million times, so I'm not

2396
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 3: going to bore people with the names. But if you

2397
01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:58,639
Speaker 3: go through the names of the greatest coaches of all

2398
01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 3: time and then you start talking about the quarterbacks who

2399
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Speaker 3: played for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but a lot of times these quarterbacks, I mean,

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01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:06,840
Speaker 2: let's go with like bart Starr and Lombardi. Bart Starr

2402
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 2: was a nobody until Lombardi showed up. But Nativus was

2403
01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:14,040
Speaker 2: a nobody until Don Coriel showed up. Joe Montana who

2404
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:16,679
Speaker 2: and then he goes with Bill Walsh and becomes a legend.

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01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 3: Here's the problem with it, though, you need a coach

2406
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:23,080
Speaker 3: to help you catch up to the level you're playing at,

2407
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:26,080
Speaker 3: and then at a certain point the coach needs you.

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01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:26,599
Speaker 1: Yah.

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01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 3: Coaches don't win football, play games players, do you know. So,

2410
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 3: as much as you want to, you know, tout Lombardi,

2411
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 3: Guess what, bart Starr threw all those touchdowns, as much

2412
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 3: as you want to tout Walsh, Guess what Montana and

2413
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 3: Young threw all those touchdown passes. As much as you

2414
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 3: want to tout Belichick, and you should because he's a

2415
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:46,839
Speaker 3: great culture builder.

2416
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:48,360
Speaker 1: It was Tom Brady who.

2417
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:51,480
Speaker 3: Was on the field in those clutch moments doing clutch things.

2418
01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:54,560
Speaker 3: And that's no shade to Andy Reid right now, who

2419
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 3: has the best thing going at quarterback in the NFL.

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01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 1: Outside of the regular season.

2421
01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:00,680
Speaker 3: It seems because over the past two seasons, about a

2422
01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 3: season and a half of the past two seasons have

2423
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 3: been dreadful a quarterback for Patrick Mahomes, But I digress.

2424
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:09,839
Speaker 3: He's the best playoff quarterback in the NFL in recent history.

2425
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:13,960
Speaker 3: So if you get the coach and then you find

2426
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 3: the right quarterback, it could work in New York and

2427
01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 3: I think Bill Belichick's the right coach.

2428
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 2: I now I have their coaching vacancies I want to

2429
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 2: get to. But first we'll continue on as we come

2430
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 2: down the finish here. Colts, by the way, still trying

2431
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 2: to come back in this game against the Giants' red

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01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 2: zone radio blocks.

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01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:34,880
Speaker 7: As snaps right gets the ones out of the tackle,

2434
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 7: he's at midfield now the right sideline for the thirty

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01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 7: twenty fifteen.

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01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 13: Ten to five league gavers fifty nine yards and today

2437
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 13: is truly fannon a beautiful day in a league's neighborhood.

2438
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:53,680
Speaker 2: That's Giants Radio network. However, the Colts have come back

2439
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:57,000
Speaker 2: to score again. Giants lead the Coals thirty five to

2440
01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:59,400
Speaker 2: thirty three. Who would believe this was going to be

2441
01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 2: the big shootout game of the day, still five and

2442
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:02,400
Speaker 2: a half minutes to go.

2443
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:05,120
Speaker 5: I was in the plot quarter that Molik neighbors, sushown

2444
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:07,200
Speaker 5: Me and Richmond waiting for this all day. This is

2445
01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:10,320
Speaker 5: now the most points the Giants have scored in a

2446
01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:14,840
Speaker 5: game all seasons, surpassing their twenty nine point win over

2447
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:16,640
Speaker 5: the Seattle Seahawks.

2448
01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 4: And Colts on fire.

2449
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:21,919
Speaker 2: Obviously, with a Joe Flacco three hundred and twenty yards passing,

2450
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:24,839
Speaker 2: you think Anthony Richardson could have thrown for who. Giants

2451
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 2: are back in the red zone. Can't be stopped out there.

2452
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 2: Giant fans are like.

2453
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 1: What are you doing?

2454
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 2: Lose, lose, lose, No, Drew Locke is now locked in

2455
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 2: as your quarterback of the future once again. Red Zone Radio.

2456
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 4: We're live from the tire Rock dot Com studios.

2457
01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 2: Not quite sure what the Eagles are gonna do the

2458
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 2: rest of the way as far as Barkley is concerned.

2459
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:50,240
Speaker 4: My guess is that's it for Barkle? Is he is

2460
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:50,840
Speaker 4: he in the game?

2461
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:51,240
Speaker 1: Still?

2462
01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 2: No?

2463
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:53,040
Speaker 10: No, he's out all right.

2464
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:55,640
Speaker 2: So he finishes the day with thirty one carries, one

2465
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty seven yards, meaning next week he needs

2466
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:02,040
Speaker 2: one hundred and one yard ards against the lowly Giants

2467
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:09,360
Speaker 2: to break Eric Dickerson's single season record That two yards.

2468
01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 10: To the Giants who gave up on him too, So

2469
01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:13,760
Speaker 10: he might actually play next week. He might do it.

2470
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 2: Oh, you're not gonna not play when you're that close

2471
01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:20,320
Speaker 2: to a record, you have to play.

2472
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I listen here, here is nobody is going to

2473
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 3: fault Nick Sirianni.

2474
01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:30,839
Speaker 1: If Saquon Barkley plays next week, do you.

2475
01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 10: Do you hand Brian dayballcheck and be like, hey, I

2476
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:38,880
Speaker 10: know you're getting fired. We're gonna We're gonna just take

2477
01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 10: the ball at the one, hand it to Saquon, just

2478
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 10: let him go for ninety nine yards and that next position,

2479
01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:44,680
Speaker 10: just let him get two.

2480
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 3: We're gonna intentionally lose, like we're gonna start off of

2481
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 3: a touchback after our opening kickoff for a first time

2482
01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 3: our offense touches the ball. We're gonna intentionally down the

2483
01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:57,000
Speaker 3: ball at the one and then please let Sakuon Barkley

2484
01:57:57,080 --> 01:57:58,839
Speaker 3: rack off the ninety nine yard touchdown.

2485
01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:01,880
Speaker 2: You're not gonna blame with just happen, Tarad, don't call

2486
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 2: me Tyrod Taylor just led the Jets to a touchdown,

2487
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 2: went right down the field through a shutout, and there

2488
01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 2: goes a shutout. They're showing Aaron Rodgers who had a

2489
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 2: miserable day. Yeah, one hundred and twelve yards passing, no touchdowns,

2490
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 2: two picks, he got sacked four times. They bring in Tarad,

2491
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:24,040
Speaker 2: don't call me Tyrod Taylor. I say that because when

2492
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 2: he was with the Chargers, he made it clear that

2493
01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:31,720
Speaker 2: his name is actually Tarrod, not Tyrod, which everyone has

2494
01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:35,880
Speaker 2: been calling him his entire NFL career. Anyway, Uh, he

2495
01:58:36,040 --> 01:58:39,160
Speaker 2: leads the Jets to the touchdown, and oh they just

2496
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,200
Speaker 2: added a two point conversion on top of that.

2497
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 4: So so getting rid of Rogers dog.

2498
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:46,560
Speaker 10: Are you saying the comeback is on Steve Well.

2499
01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:51,400
Speaker 2: I'm just saying they obviously responded to Taylor's leadership when

2500
01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:54,240
Speaker 2: they had zero response to Aaron rodgers leadership.

2501
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:58,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a leadership thing. I don't

2502
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 3: I don't think it's it's necessarily that. I frankly feel

2503
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:06,000
Speaker 3: like it's just a gameplay thing. I think I think

2504
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers has hit that proverbial cliff. We saw it

2505
01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:13,000
Speaker 3: with Peyton Manning. He was still able to muster a

2506
01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 3: Super Bowl winning season. We talked about this earlier, even

2507
01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:18,640
Speaker 3: though his arm had given out on him. I think

2508
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:22,480
Speaker 3: the achilles tendon tear the recovery because he tried to

2509
01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:24,840
Speaker 3: expedite it, tried to come back last season if they

2510
01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:29,280
Speaker 3: were in playoff condition, in playoff contention. I think there

2511
01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:31,560
Speaker 3: were a lot of things that made it so he

2512
01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:34,920
Speaker 3: didn't fully recover until later this season. May have led

2513
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:36,480
Speaker 3: to what we're seeing this year, and I don't think

2514
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 3: it gets much better next year.

2515
01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:41,600
Speaker 2: But yes, all right, touchdown Drew Lock. Touchdown, Drew lo

2516
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:44,560
Speaker 2: Lock did it again. Unbelieved he was the greatest coach

2517
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:48,440
Speaker 2: quarterback in Giants' history. Dare I say, at least for

2518
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:51,920
Speaker 2: a day, much more? Coming up by red Zone radio, Burning.

2519
01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 7: Old five takes the snap, playfit Lock back to throw

2520
01:59:56,720 --> 01:59:59,840
Speaker 7: Rolls's Lock. He's got a lane, He's still a five.

2521
02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 7: He comes into the end zone for a touchdown, and

2522
02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:07,720
Speaker 7: the Giants respawn.

2523
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:09,760
Speaker 4: Drew Lock on a third and goal at.

2524
02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:13,480
Speaker 9: The five runs it in Tune fifty seven Ago forty

2525
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:15,040
Speaker 9: one to thirty three Giants.

2526
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:20,160
Speaker 2: That's Giants Radio Network. The Drew Lock era is in

2527
02:00:20,240 --> 02:00:24,280
Speaker 2: full effect. The Giants have just added a field goal,

2528
02:00:24,640 --> 02:00:27,360
Speaker 2: and with two twenty to go in the fourth quarter, Giants,

2529
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:30,800
Speaker 2: looking for their first home win of the season, lead

2530
02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:33,480
Speaker 2: the Colts forty five to thirty three.

2531
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:35,080
Speaker 4: Once again, this is Red Zone Radio.

2532
02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:38,400
Speaker 2: We're broadcasting live from the tire rack dot Com studios.

2533
02:00:38,480 --> 02:00:40,480
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2537
02:00:52,640 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 2: Lock has had a day, no question about that. He

2538
02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:59,080
Speaker 2: doesn't have a perfect passer rating anymore, but seventeen to

2539
02:00:59,200 --> 02:01:02,160
Speaker 2: twenty three to three nine yards, four touchdowns, no picks,

2540
02:01:02,440 --> 02:01:05,720
Speaker 2: and he has the rushing touchdown on top of that.

2541
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you love to see it for a quarterback at

2542
02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:15,360
Speaker 3: the end of the season who is chasing opportunities and aspirations,

2543
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:18,040
Speaker 3: just like any of these guys. And you've seen what's

2544
02:01:18,080 --> 02:01:21,840
Speaker 3: happened to players like Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield who have

2545
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:26,960
Speaker 3: had a variety of experiences Gino Smith throughout their NFL

2546
02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:32,280
Speaker 3: career that have led them to backing up being bridge quarterbacks,

2547
02:01:32,320 --> 02:01:35,320
Speaker 3: getting labeled a certain way, and with the new opportunity

2548
02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:38,600
Speaker 3: have found new life. So there's no such thing as

2549
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:41,600
Speaker 3: given up in this league. If you are on a roster.

2550
02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:44,560
Speaker 3: If the I shouldn't say there's no such thing. There

2551
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:46,560
Speaker 3: are plenty of players that have given up playing this

2552
02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:50,560
Speaker 3: game and are still handsomely played in or paid in

2553
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:53,640
Speaker 3: the NFL and still playing. But my point being, if

2554
02:01:53,680 --> 02:01:57,000
Speaker 3: you have the effort and the desire and the talent,

2555
02:01:57,880 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 3: there can be a second act to your career. Who

2556
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,800
Speaker 3: who knows, maybe we'll see that with Drew lock Absolutely.

2557
02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:04,960
Speaker 2: I mean, at some point a lot of teams thought

2558
02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:07,800
Speaker 2: Drew Locke had what it takes to be a starting

2559
02:02:07,840 --> 02:02:10,480
Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL. It just you know, the whole

2560
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:14,880
Speaker 2: situation in Seattle just never happened because of the emergence

2561
02:02:15,160 --> 02:02:18,000
Speaker 2: of Geno Smith. All right, so we got games that

2562
02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:22,240
Speaker 2: have just been ugly today. By the way, that Bayfield

2563
02:02:22,280 --> 02:02:25,400
Speaker 2: game was umbiliable. So just to give you a little update,

2564
02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:28,920
Speaker 2: by the way, Jaguars beat the Titans and Mason Rudolph

2565
02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:32,480
Speaker 2: did not play well, that's a team desperate for a quarterback.

2566
02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:36,160
Speaker 2: So I want to look right now a little update

2567
02:02:36,200 --> 02:02:40,560
Speaker 2: on the playoff situation around the NFL as we get

2568
02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:41,440
Speaker 2: going right now.

2569
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:42,560
Speaker 1: So in the.

2570
02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:45,720
Speaker 2: AFC, this is the way it looks. Chiefs have already

2571
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:47,840
Speaker 2: clinched the number one overall seed. They will have a

2572
02:02:47,880 --> 02:02:53,200
Speaker 2: bye the Bills will be the two seed, the Ravens

2573
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:57,720
Speaker 2: will be the three seed, and the Texans will be

2574
02:02:57,760 --> 02:03:02,240
Speaker 2: the fourth seed. And then appears it'll either most likely

2575
02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:05,560
Speaker 2: be the Steelers at five, Chargers at six, And even

2576
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:08,919
Speaker 2: with the Broncos losing the last couple of weeks, Broncos

2577
02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:12,280
Speaker 2: are hosting the Chiefs this week. Now, if you're the Chiefs,

2578
02:03:14,120 --> 02:03:17,240
Speaker 2: who would you rather see in the playoffs? The Broncos

2579
02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:21,080
Speaker 2: are the Bengals. I don't think that if the Chiefs

2580
02:03:21,120 --> 02:03:25,560
Speaker 2: are in a position to revent Joe Burrow from sneaking

2581
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:29,680
Speaker 2: into the playoffs, they're gonna make sure that happens. They

2582
02:03:29,720 --> 02:03:33,560
Speaker 2: don't want, they don't want to create an opening for

2583
02:03:33,640 --> 02:03:36,200
Speaker 2: the Bengals to sneak into the playoffs.

2584
02:03:36,480 --> 02:03:39,160
Speaker 3: No, they do not if they can find a way

2585
02:03:39,200 --> 02:03:40,480
Speaker 3: to keep them out.

2586
02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:43,720
Speaker 2: Because they will sit everybody in this game and concede

2587
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:47,800
Speaker 2: it and allow the Broncos to sneak in as the final.

2588
02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:51,280
Speaker 3: Playoff TI I don't disagree. And also, I mean it's

2589
02:03:51,440 --> 02:03:54,840
Speaker 3: it's all about risk reward. I really don't think a

2590
02:03:54,920 --> 02:03:58,840
Speaker 3: lot of coaches make a decision based off of what

2591
02:03:58,880 --> 02:04:00,880
Speaker 3: can happen around the league. I think a lot of

2592
02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:05,000
Speaker 3: them do the risk assessment in house, all right, so

2593
02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:08,320
Speaker 3: what are we risking by playing our starters versus resting

2594
02:04:08,360 --> 02:04:11,120
Speaker 3: our starters, And that equation, by the way, it gets

2595
02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:14,800
Speaker 3: wonky because certain starters want to play because they don't

2596
02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:16,920
Speaker 3: want to have too large of a gap between the

2597
02:04:17,000 --> 02:04:19,400
Speaker 3: last time they played football and the next time they're

2598
02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:22,720
Speaker 3: playing football. So it's a careful balance you need to

2599
02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:25,960
Speaker 3: strike with your players with the understanding that the rust

2600
02:04:26,040 --> 02:04:29,360
Speaker 3: factor can have bearing on your level of success when

2601
02:04:29,400 --> 02:04:32,840
Speaker 3: the postseason begins for you. So I as much as

2602
02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:35,840
Speaker 3: you think that may get factored into the decision making,

2603
02:04:35,880 --> 02:04:38,680
Speaker 3: I think it's very much a team by team and

2604
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:41,960
Speaker 3: a focus a self scouting portrait of what you think

2605
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:42,800
Speaker 3: your team needs.

2606
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Speaker 2: Right, So that's the most likely scenario, and the AFC side,

2607
02:04:47,680 --> 02:04:50,200
Speaker 2: the NFC side is still a little bit up for

2608
02:04:50,240 --> 02:04:53,680
Speaker 2: grabs right now because obviously we got the Lions and

2609
02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:56,840
Speaker 2: the Vikings tied at thirteen and two, So you got

2610
02:04:56,880 --> 02:05:01,200
Speaker 2: the Lions, you got the Eagles, the Rams. Technically, the

2611
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:03,880
Speaker 2: Rams have not clinched the NFC West, but by all

2612
02:05:03,880 --> 02:05:07,400
Speaker 2: accounts they really have, and at least temporarily now the

2613
02:05:07,400 --> 02:05:10,360
Speaker 2: Buccaneers have jumped the Falcons waiting on the Falcons. Now

2614
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:13,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to match the Buccaneers win on the

2615
02:05:13,160 --> 02:05:15,720
Speaker 2: road against the Commanders, and then as wild cards, you

2616
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:18,480
Speaker 2: got the Vikings, got the Packers, and then you have

2617
02:05:18,600 --> 02:05:23,640
Speaker 2: the Commanders. So you know, I I'll put it this way,

2618
02:05:23,760 --> 02:05:29,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four has been predictable in terms of what

2619
02:05:29,080 --> 02:05:31,920
Speaker 2: we have expected year in year out with the NFL.

2620
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:34,360
Speaker 2: We know going into the year rich every single year

2621
02:05:34,720 --> 02:05:37,520
Speaker 2: there's gonna be three or four or five teams maybe

2622
02:05:37,840 --> 02:05:41,920
Speaker 2: that are going to far exceed expectations, and they're gonna

2623
02:05:41,920 --> 02:05:44,720
Speaker 2: be four or five teams that are like nor what

2624
02:05:44,960 --> 02:05:49,320
Speaker 2: happened this year. I mean you look, remember iber Flus

2625
02:05:49,480 --> 02:05:51,640
Speaker 2: was the favorite to be coach of the Year this

2626
02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:54,360
Speaker 2: year and he ended up fired, which we also said

2627
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:56,680
Speaker 2: at the time. I think we said, yeah, he's favored

2628
02:05:56,720 --> 02:05:58,520
Speaker 2: to be coach of the year, also favored to be

2629
02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:04,480
Speaker 2: the first coach five the forty nine ers. Let me

2630
02:06:04,520 --> 02:06:08,520
Speaker 2: ask you about the forty nine ers per second here, Okay, yeah,

2631
02:06:08,560 --> 02:06:13,680
Speaker 2: by the way, the last team to lose the Super

2632
02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:17,560
Speaker 2: Bowl and then miss the playoffs entirely the next year

2633
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:22,080
Speaker 2: was the San Francisco forty nine Ers under Kyle Shanahan.

2634
02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:22,840
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty.

2635
02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is two consecutive times now where a Shanahan

2636
02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:30,200
Speaker 2: led team loses the Super Bowl and does not make

2637
02:06:30,240 --> 02:06:33,720
Speaker 2: the playoffs the next year. That's pretty crazy when you

2638
02:06:33,720 --> 02:06:35,560
Speaker 2: think about it, right a little bit.

2639
02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:39,160
Speaker 1: However, they get back and also.

2640
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:42,680
Speaker 2: Okay, well, the question is, so they bounce back from

2641
02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:45,120
Speaker 2: you know, missing the playoffs to eventually get back to

2642
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:48,440
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Is there another bounce back with these

2643
02:06:48,480 --> 02:06:51,640
Speaker 2: forty nine ers or do you have some serious doubts

2644
02:06:51,840 --> 02:06:53,920
Speaker 2: about the years ahead.

2645
02:06:54,200 --> 02:06:58,560
Speaker 3: I have doubts in terms of well, no, of course

2646
02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:00,880
Speaker 3: I always have doubts. I have doubts about the Chiefs.

2647
02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:02,840
Speaker 3: I have doubts about the best teams. I have doubts

2648
02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:03,640
Speaker 3: about the worst teams.

2649
02:07:03,640 --> 02:07:06,120
Speaker 2: I have doubts about the hold on a second, hold on,

2650
02:07:06,200 --> 02:07:10,320
Speaker 2: we have some breaking news right now?

2651
02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:12,400
Speaker 4: Do we go to monts We have breaking.

2652
02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:17,400
Speaker 6: News, breaking news from Fox Sports.

2653
02:07:16,960 --> 02:07:20,880
Speaker 11: Breaking news in the world, not necessarily in sports, but

2654
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:24,760
Speaker 11: according to multiple reports, Jimmy Carter, the thirty ninth president

2655
02:07:24,800 --> 02:07:26,720
Speaker 11: of the United States, has passed away.

2656
02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:29,360
Speaker 2: So he made it to one hundred. He made it

2657
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:32,960
Speaker 2: to October first, was his one hundredth birthday. Of course,

2658
02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 2: his wife Rosalind Carter, the former First Lady, passed away

2659
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:42,920
Speaker 2: last year, and that's an amazing life, to say the least.

2660
02:07:43,280 --> 02:07:47,160
Speaker 2: But when a president passes, that's a very big story.

2661
02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:49,040
Speaker 1: No doubt, no question about it.

2662
02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:50,040
Speaker 8: May he rest in peace.

2663
02:07:50,200 --> 02:07:52,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he was a good man. He wasn't a great president,

2664
02:07:52,640 --> 02:07:54,680
Speaker 2: but he was a good man, a very good man.

2665
02:07:54,720 --> 02:07:56,879
Speaker 1: Obviously always up for opinion.

2666
02:07:57,080 --> 02:08:01,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, well it it was a have time for him.

2667
02:08:01,400 --> 02:08:03,880
Speaker 2: I will say a little sidebar here on Jimmy Carter.

2668
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:07,520
Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter was a was elected president because of what

2669
02:08:07,600 --> 02:08:11,400
Speaker 2: happened to Nixon in the Watergate situation, where America said

2670
02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:14,800
Speaker 2: we don't trust Washington, d C. We had a president

2671
02:08:15,400 --> 02:08:19,560
Speaker 2: under scandal resign and we won an outsider and that's

2672
02:08:19,560 --> 02:08:20,879
Speaker 2: how he presented himself.

2673
02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:24,000
Speaker 4: But the problem, Rich is when.

2674
02:08:23,880 --> 02:08:27,160
Speaker 2: You don't have connections in Washington, and Carter was a

2675
02:08:27,160 --> 02:08:30,040
Speaker 2: one term ex governor out of Georgia, it makes.

2676
02:08:29,880 --> 02:08:32,760
Speaker 4: It very difficult to get your agenda going.

2677
02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:36,160
Speaker 2: And then his own party ran somebody against him when

2678
02:08:36,160 --> 02:08:39,520
Speaker 2: he ran reelection to Teddy Kennedy. H he held off

2679
02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:42,160
Speaker 2: Kennedy but then obviously got beaten badly by Reagan.

2680
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:43,839
Speaker 4: But I will say.

2681
02:08:43,640 --> 02:08:47,720
Speaker 2: This his post presidency was absolutely one of the most

2682
02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:49,000
Speaker 2: successful of all time.

2683
02:08:49,160 --> 02:08:50,400
Speaker 1: No doubt this guy.

2684
02:08:50,880 --> 02:08:53,960
Speaker 2: You never left planes Georgia. He wasn't a guy that

2685
02:08:54,040 --> 02:08:57,560
Speaker 2: became a zillionaire. He served his country. He was a

2686
02:08:57,600 --> 02:08:58,640
Speaker 2: good man.

2687
02:08:59,240 --> 02:09:03,480
Speaker 3: He really his country from the moment his adulthood started

2688
02:09:03,680 --> 02:09:06,840
Speaker 3: all the way through his presidency and beyond, because he

2689
02:09:06,920 --> 02:09:09,440
Speaker 3: was a naval officer before he was ever elected to

2690
02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:14,080
Speaker 3: his governorship in Georgia. He obviously served as president, but

2691
02:09:14,120 --> 02:09:19,440
Speaker 3: then after that was promoting you know, fair elections and

2692
02:09:19,840 --> 02:09:23,400
Speaker 3: you know, helped in you know, the last thing I

2693
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:27,600
Speaker 3: read about him before obviously his much older age, was

2694
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:31,520
Speaker 3: that he had a great interest in helping fighting certain

2695
02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:35,160
Speaker 3: diseases and he was you know, philanthropists in that way

2696
02:09:35,200 --> 02:09:36,400
Speaker 3: and helping raise funds.

2697
02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:39,920
Speaker 4: So look, he was building houses well into his nineties.

2698
02:09:40,120 --> 02:09:41,680
Speaker 1: That's a guy who he wanted to.

2699
02:09:41,600 --> 02:09:44,840
Speaker 2: Know prized as an ex president. I mean, the guy

2700
02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:48,760
Speaker 2: had an amazing life. So yeah, God bless and by

2701
02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:51,120
Speaker 2: the way, he had his own sermons that he would

2702
02:09:51,160 --> 02:09:53,960
Speaker 2: do at his local church. I just liked the fact

2703
02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:56,640
Speaker 2: that he was he was a simple man and that

2704
02:09:56,680 --> 02:09:58,160
Speaker 2: never changed, never changed.

2705
02:09:58,600 --> 02:10:00,480
Speaker 4: He was the president when I was in college.

2706
02:10:00,920 --> 02:10:05,040
Speaker 2: Literally the Jimmy Carter years were literally he was elected

2707
02:10:05,080 --> 02:10:07,280
Speaker 2: when I was a freshman, and then he was ousted

2708
02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:10,320
Speaker 2: as I was leaving. So that was my college years.

2709
02:10:10,320 --> 02:10:13,360
Speaker 2: And they're like, damn Hartman, you're that fricking old and

2710
02:10:13,400 --> 02:10:15,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, so that's how it.

2711
02:10:17,800 --> 02:10:19,760
Speaker 1: Was. It was crazy, though, you.

2712
02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:24,080
Speaker 3: Went to college late because the president who served when

2713
02:10:24,120 --> 02:10:26,200
Speaker 3: you're in elementary school was mending the nation.

2714
02:10:26,320 --> 02:10:26,960
Speaker 1: It was Lincoln.

2715
02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:31,040
Speaker 2: Well, actually I was in kindergarten when President Kennedy was assassinated,

2716
02:10:31,080 --> 02:10:32,440
Speaker 2: so that goes way back in the day.

2717
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 4: All right, so these are all finals now.

2718
02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:37,640
Speaker 2: The Giants beat the Colts forty five to thirty three,

2719
02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:40,680
Speaker 2: Eagles over the Cowboys forty one to seven, Bucks over

2720
02:10:40,720 --> 02:10:44,160
Speaker 2: the Panthers forty eight to fourteen, Jaguars over the Titans

2721
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:46,840
Speaker 2: twenty to thirteen. A couple of games still going. The

2722
02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:49,080
Speaker 2: Bills blow out over the Jets continues. By the way,

2723
02:10:49,120 --> 02:10:53,240
Speaker 2: the Jets suddenly are juggernaut offensively. They scored again now

2724
02:10:53,280 --> 02:10:56,320
Speaker 2: that Taylor's in a quarterback instead of that Rogers guy,

2725
02:10:56,680 --> 02:10:58,800
Speaker 2: and the Raiders are winning a game. So the Raiders

2726
02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:01,320
Speaker 2: are like, yeah, screw it, we don't care about the draft.

2727
02:11:01,480 --> 02:11:04,360
Speaker 2: They're gonna win another game, suddenly they're going on a

2728
02:11:04,360 --> 02:11:06,680
Speaker 2: winning streak. On the other side, it's going to talk

2729
02:11:06,680 --> 02:11:13,520
Speaker 2: about these coaching vacancies around the NFL. Three are already there, Jet, Saints,

2730
02:11:13,560 --> 02:11:16,560
Speaker 2: and Bears. What other vacancies are we going to see?

2731
02:11:16,600 --> 02:11:20,520
Speaker 2: And just underway, Dolphins on the road against the Browns.

2732
02:11:20,600 --> 02:11:24,880
Speaker 2: This is Red Zone Radio rolling along here on this

2733
02:11:25,120 --> 02:11:30,000
Speaker 2: NFL Sunday Red Zone Radio Steve Harbin, Rich Ornberger with

2734
02:11:30,040 --> 02:11:34,840
Speaker 2: Eli from the tire rack dot Com studios. Well, as

2735
02:11:36,760 --> 02:11:41,640
Speaker 2: we knew going into today, we didn't have a lot

2736
02:11:41,680 --> 02:11:47,640
Speaker 2: of sexy matchups this morning in the NFL, and by

2737
02:11:47,680 --> 02:11:52,600
Speaker 2: and large it lived down to expectations. So we're done

2738
02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:54,480
Speaker 2: with those games. We got a few more games on

2739
02:11:54,520 --> 02:11:56,640
Speaker 2: the slate here in Week sixteen. I thought we'd take

2740
02:11:56,640 --> 02:11:59,560
Speaker 2: a moment here Rich talk about vacancies. By the way,

2741
02:12:00,080 --> 02:12:03,200
Speaker 2: with the Colts embarrassing lots of the Giants again, Giants

2742
02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:07,160
Speaker 2: winning their first home game of the season. The Colts

2743
02:12:07,240 --> 02:12:11,080
Speaker 2: have been officially eliminated from the playoffs, so you still

2744
02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:15,960
Speaker 2: have teams like the Dolphins and the Bengals, Seahawks, a

2745
02:12:16,040 --> 02:12:18,880
Speaker 2: lot of teams just hanging by a thread right now.

2746
02:12:19,000 --> 02:12:23,320
Speaker 2: But if we look at the current standings. According to

2747
02:12:23,720 --> 02:12:29,720
Speaker 2: the NFL, the Giants with their win today still have

2748
02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:31,480
Speaker 2: the number one pick in the draft.

2749
02:12:32,360 --> 02:12:32,880
Speaker 1: Wow.

2750
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:34,880
Speaker 4: So according to.

2751
02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:40,600
Speaker 2: The NFL, the three and thirteen teams. Of course, the

2752
02:12:40,680 --> 02:12:43,240
Speaker 2: Raiders won today, so they are four and twelve. So

2753
02:12:43,560 --> 02:12:50,520
Speaker 2: the Giants won, Patriots two, Titans three. Okay, Now, if

2754
02:12:50,520 --> 02:12:54,320
Speaker 2: the Browns lose, I don't know how that could affect it.

2755
02:12:54,400 --> 02:12:58,720
Speaker 2: But that's where we stand right now. And then we

2756
02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:01,320
Speaker 2: have one, two, three, four, five teams sitting at four

2757
02:13:01,360 --> 02:13:06,160
Speaker 2: and twelve, and unfortunately for the Jets, they're at the

2758
02:13:06,200 --> 02:13:09,320
Speaker 2: back end of that. So even the dead Jets are

2759
02:13:09,360 --> 02:13:12,240
Speaker 2: sitting there at four and twelve as it stands right now,

2760
02:13:12,360 --> 02:13:16,160
Speaker 2: rich they would only have the ninth pick in the draft. Yeah,

2761
02:13:16,160 --> 02:13:18,360
Speaker 2: there have been a lot of bad teams this year.

2762
02:13:18,440 --> 02:13:21,080
Speaker 2: I mean we if you look at the overall NFL

2763
02:13:21,200 --> 02:13:25,280
Speaker 2: standings this year, it is top heavy and it is

2764
02:13:25,400 --> 02:13:26,160
Speaker 2: bottom heavy.

2765
02:13:27,760 --> 02:13:31,200
Speaker 3: I'm pretty impressed actually that it's worked out this way,

2766
02:13:31,400 --> 02:13:36,280
Speaker 3: because you know, if there has to be bad teams,

2767
02:13:36,520 --> 02:13:39,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, You're not everybody is going

2768
02:13:39,600 --> 02:13:43,120
Speaker 3: to rise to the occasion and they're like we pointed

2769
02:13:43,160 --> 02:13:47,680
Speaker 3: out the Niners example of a team that really underplayed expectations.

2770
02:13:47,720 --> 02:13:51,160
Speaker 3: You could argue the Jacksonville Jaguars with all the talk

2771
02:13:51,560 --> 02:13:56,000
Speaker 3: this offseason about Trevor Lawrence and him signing his contract,

2772
02:13:56,040 --> 02:13:59,640
Speaker 3: and you know, you could argue they underplayed. There were

2773
02:13:59,680 --> 02:14:03,040
Speaker 3: plenty of those examples, but more so teams that you

2774
02:14:03,120 --> 02:14:09,080
Speaker 3: expected to have to have good seasons. They kind of

2775
02:14:09,120 --> 02:14:12,480
Speaker 3: fell to the vast middle in some ways, you know

2776
02:14:12,520 --> 02:14:16,760
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like it it wasn't an impressive regular season.

2777
02:14:16,760 --> 02:14:19,040
Speaker 3: As we get close to the end, it's weird. I

2778
02:14:19,240 --> 02:14:21,160
Speaker 3: don't know why I feel that way about this season,

2779
02:14:21,160 --> 02:14:22,000
Speaker 3: but I agree with you.

2780
02:14:22,160 --> 02:14:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't. It hasn't.

2781
02:14:24,040 --> 02:14:26,040
Speaker 4: But you know, everything can change in the postseason.

2782
02:14:26,200 --> 02:14:28,160
Speaker 2: You know, all of a sudden we see this, well,

2783
02:14:28,200 --> 02:14:31,720
Speaker 2: baseball is notorious, Like we sleep through the entire regular season,

2784
02:14:31,760 --> 02:14:33,880
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you get to the postseason like

2785
02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:36,560
Speaker 2: this is like the best sport ever. Yeah, and then

2786
02:14:36,600 --> 02:14:38,360
Speaker 2: you get back to spring training you're like.

2787
02:14:38,560 --> 02:14:38,960
Speaker 1: This, well.

2788
02:14:38,960 --> 02:14:42,080
Speaker 3: And I think part of the reason why we're feeling

2789
02:14:42,120 --> 02:14:45,600
Speaker 3: that in the NFL now is because of the expansion

2790
02:14:45,680 --> 02:14:49,720
Speaker 3: of the regular season, which there's going to be another expansion.

2791
02:14:49,880 --> 02:14:52,160
Speaker 3: They're gonna go to eighteen games at some point over

2792
02:14:52,160 --> 02:14:55,280
Speaker 3: the next half decade or so, and when that happens,

2793
02:14:55,400 --> 02:14:58,760
Speaker 3: I do think the regular season is going to drag

2794
02:14:58,840 --> 02:14:59,520
Speaker 3: on a little bit.

2795
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:02,240
Speaker 1: I felt like sixteen was the sweet spot.

2796
02:15:02,600 --> 02:15:06,000
Speaker 3: I think the expansion of the postseason and giving one

2797
02:15:06,160 --> 02:15:10,600
Speaker 3: team the first round by definitely helped keep interest down

2798
02:15:10,640 --> 02:15:13,080
Speaker 3: the stretch of the season. But adding an eighteenth game,

2799
02:15:13,800 --> 02:15:16,200
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna change a lot. I think we're

2800
02:15:16,240 --> 02:15:19,600
Speaker 3: gonna hit a point of diminishing returns. I don't think

2801
02:15:19,640 --> 02:15:22,480
Speaker 3: it ruins the sport, but it'll definitely diminish the.

2802
02:15:22,480 --> 02:15:24,520
Speaker 1: Interest in the tail end of the regular season.

2803
02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:27,800
Speaker 2: It will, all right, So let's talk some coaching vacancies.

2804
02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:30,560
Speaker 2: So right now we have the Jets, Saints, and Bears.

2805
02:15:31,400 --> 02:15:32,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a team. You tell me if

2806
02:15:32,960 --> 02:15:36,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna see a coaching vacancy. Okay, let's start with

2807
02:15:36,040 --> 02:15:41,040
Speaker 2: the New York Giants. Are we gonna see a coaching vacancy?

2808
02:15:41,400 --> 02:15:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2809
02:15:42,000 --> 02:15:44,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so the Giants are gonna move on?

2810
02:15:45,200 --> 02:15:49,600
Speaker 4: What do we do with the Cleveland Browns?

2811
02:15:52,920 --> 02:15:59,240
Speaker 3: Kevin Stefanski is not your biggest issue. Kevin Stefanski, I

2812
02:15:59,280 --> 02:16:02,880
Speaker 3: think is a nominal coach faced with one of the

2813
02:16:02,920 --> 02:16:07,040
Speaker 3: worst contracts we've ever seen in sporting history, not just

2814
02:16:07,120 --> 02:16:10,520
Speaker 3: in the NFL. So I think if you find a

2815
02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:14,360
Speaker 3: way to move this to Sean Watson contract, even if

2816
02:16:14,400 --> 02:16:16,720
Speaker 3: it costs you a lot of money, if it's even

2817
02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:20,000
Speaker 3: possible you do that, I don't. I don't think you

2818
02:16:20,040 --> 02:16:22,640
Speaker 3: get rid of Stefanski though. I think I think the

2819
02:16:22,720 --> 02:16:26,080
Speaker 3: fan base will have a higher level of awareness than

2820
02:16:26,160 --> 02:16:28,920
Speaker 3: virtually any other fan base that you are just doing

2821
02:16:29,360 --> 02:16:33,480
Speaker 3: what felt like an obligatory blood letting as opposed to

2822
02:16:33,520 --> 02:16:34,840
Speaker 3: actually fixing the problem.

2823
02:16:35,360 --> 02:16:37,560
Speaker 4: Is Peterson gone for sure?

2824
02:16:38,280 --> 02:16:38,760
Speaker 1: I think so.

2825
02:16:39,320 --> 02:16:41,720
Speaker 3: I think times up in Jacksonville. I think the whole

2826
02:16:41,760 --> 02:16:45,800
Speaker 3: reason why he was hired is to maximize Trevor Lawrence.

2827
02:16:45,959 --> 02:16:50,320
Speaker 3: And whether or not it's it's his fault. I don't

2828
02:16:50,360 --> 02:16:52,800
Speaker 3: think we've seen the best of Trevor Lawrence yet. And

2829
02:16:52,840 --> 02:16:56,560
Speaker 3: that was that after the complete failure of Urban Meyer,

2830
02:16:56,640 --> 02:17:00,039
Speaker 3: which feels like lite years away from from where we

2831
02:17:00,080 --> 02:17:03,920
Speaker 3: are now with the Jacksonville Jaguars. They've made one playoff

2832
02:17:03,959 --> 02:17:05,640
Speaker 3: appearance in his tenure.

2833
02:17:05,720 --> 02:17:07,920
Speaker 1: As head coach. It's not what they were expecting.

2834
02:17:08,600 --> 02:17:12,680
Speaker 2: Antonio Pierce, he's gone gone, all right, So that's three

2835
02:17:12,760 --> 02:17:18,760
Speaker 2: more vacancies Giants, Jacksonville and the Raiders. I wonder how

2836
02:17:18,840 --> 02:17:22,920
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones is greeting Mike McCarthy after getting humiliated in

2837
02:17:22,959 --> 02:17:24,359
Speaker 2: Philadelphia today.

2838
02:17:24,160 --> 02:17:26,560
Speaker 3: He's gone, I mean, I mean, everything that you saw

2839
02:17:26,720 --> 02:17:31,039
Speaker 3: following the last win was just Jerry Jones trying to

2840
02:17:31,080 --> 02:17:33,680
Speaker 3: stir the pot and it worked. Look, we were talking

2841
02:17:33,680 --> 02:17:36,039
Speaker 3: about it, how he was butting up to Mike McCarthy.

2842
02:17:37,080 --> 02:17:40,560
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones before he's anything else. He's a showman. He

2843
02:17:40,720 --> 02:17:43,959
Speaker 1: knows this was the same thing that doctor Jerry Buss.

2844
02:17:43,720 --> 02:17:46,200
Speaker 3: Did with the Los Angeles Lakers. He knows that this

2845
02:17:46,360 --> 02:17:50,440
Speaker 3: is an entertainment product. First, is it important to win? Oh, yeah,

2846
02:17:50,520 --> 02:17:53,120
Speaker 3: it's important to win, But is it more important to

2847
02:17:53,120 --> 02:17:53,879
Speaker 3: be entertaining?

2848
02:17:54,160 --> 02:17:54,400
Speaker 1: Yes?

2849
02:17:54,640 --> 02:17:57,560
Speaker 3: I would say that is accurate. All right, So that's

2850
02:17:57,640 --> 02:18:01,039
Speaker 3: four vacancies. All right, So that's anet that's seven totally.

2851
02:18:01,080 --> 02:18:02,080
Speaker 4: WHI TI is our usual?

2852
02:18:02,240 --> 02:18:02,400
Speaker 1: Right?

2853
02:18:02,560 --> 02:18:04,040
Speaker 4: Every year it seems seven.

2854
02:18:04,160 --> 02:18:07,360
Speaker 2: Seven is like the magic number every year seven numbers,

2855
02:18:07,360 --> 02:18:12,800
Speaker 2: all right? So Jets, Saints, Bears, Giants, Jacksonville Raiders, and

2856
02:18:13,000 --> 02:18:18,880
Speaker 2: Dallas Yes. So if you had let's talk about Ben Johnson, right, Yeah,

2857
02:18:18,879 --> 02:18:21,920
Speaker 2: So he's the hot commodity offensive coordinator for the Lions,

2858
02:18:23,879 --> 02:18:26,600
Speaker 2: and you had your choice of any of these jobs.

2859
02:18:27,080 --> 02:18:32,720
Speaker 2: Which one do you choose Jets, Saints, Bears, Giants, Jacksonville Raiders,

2860
02:18:33,120 --> 02:18:33,920
Speaker 2: Dallas Hm.

2861
02:18:35,680 --> 02:18:39,080
Speaker 3: I would say if I were Ben Johnson, I would

2862
02:18:39,080 --> 02:18:40,879
Speaker 3: want to go to Jacksonville and.

2863
02:18:40,800 --> 02:18:42,760
Speaker 2: Here Wow Wow, Okay, why?

2864
02:18:43,560 --> 02:18:48,520
Speaker 3: I think amongst the teams that you have availability to

2865
02:18:48,600 --> 02:18:53,680
Speaker 3: work for, Jacksonville has the lowest amount of pressure, so

2866
02:18:53,760 --> 02:18:58,640
Speaker 3: the longest on ramp, and he watched Dan Campbell get

2867
02:18:58,800 --> 02:19:02,160
Speaker 3: about two and a half. I have really two seasons

2868
02:19:02,160 --> 02:19:05,440
Speaker 3: to fully allow his culture to take effect, and then

2869
02:19:05,680 --> 02:19:09,160
Speaker 3: year three it really started pumping. And I think in

2870
02:19:09,280 --> 02:19:13,000
Speaker 3: Jacksonville he could institute similar philosophies. And also he's working

2871
02:19:13,000 --> 02:19:17,160
Speaker 3: with Trevor Lawrence, who, amongst the teams with vacancies, that

2872
02:19:17,280 --> 02:19:20,320
Speaker 3: head coach you could argue as the most talented quarterback

2873
02:19:21,160 --> 02:19:24,680
Speaker 3: of them all. So I mean, and he's not going anywhere.

2874
02:19:24,680 --> 02:19:26,400
Speaker 3: They locked him up with that contract. So if I

2875
02:19:26,400 --> 02:19:28,920
Speaker 3: were Ben Johnson, I would take the Jacksonville Jaguarts.

2876
02:19:28,680 --> 02:19:32,000
Speaker 2: Co Chris Here a Ben Johnson guy. Which one would

2877
02:19:32,000 --> 02:19:34,160
Speaker 2: you choose for him? If you're representing Ben.

2878
02:19:34,120 --> 02:19:37,640
Speaker 5: Johnson, I think the the I think I've got to

2879
02:19:37,680 --> 02:19:40,240
Speaker 5: go with Rich Here. I feel like, so hold on,

2880
02:19:40,360 --> 02:19:42,400
Speaker 5: let me take his stock of the teams again.

2881
02:19:43,440 --> 02:19:49,240
Speaker 2: Yets, Saints, Bears, Giants, Jacksonville, Raiders, Dallas Who.

2882
02:19:49,240 --> 02:19:51,560
Speaker 4: Boy, I don't so, I don't think.

2883
02:19:51,600 --> 02:19:53,800
Speaker 5: I think he's the wrong coordinator of the Lions to

2884
02:19:53,840 --> 02:19:55,600
Speaker 5: look at for the Saints job. You look at Aaron

2885
02:19:55,600 --> 02:19:58,560
Speaker 5: Glenn if you're the Saints, because he's you know, played

2886
02:19:58,560 --> 02:20:02,200
Speaker 5: there and everything. But yeah, the Jacksonville job intrigues me.

2887
02:20:02,800 --> 02:20:04,959
Speaker 5: If it does come open. It feels like they've got

2888
02:20:05,000 --> 02:20:07,959
Speaker 5: a lot of weapons to really work with their and

2889
02:20:08,280 --> 02:20:10,240
Speaker 5: like some of the philosophy he can really work with,

2890
02:20:10,400 --> 02:20:12,840
Speaker 5: especially if he can get any of his O line

2891
02:20:12,840 --> 02:20:15,920
Speaker 5: coaches to come with him out there. I know he's

2892
02:20:15,959 --> 02:20:19,480
Speaker 5: tied to the Bears and that seems very evident, But listen,

2893
02:20:19,520 --> 02:20:23,760
Speaker 5: the secret sauce to any Ben Johnson offense is the

2894
02:20:23,920 --> 02:20:28,920
Speaker 5: entire offensive line works with the team. Like you know,

2895
02:20:28,959 --> 02:20:31,440
Speaker 5: we we've talked about it plenty on this show. When

2896
02:20:31,440 --> 02:20:34,640
Speaker 5: you're running, you know, Jamiir Gibbs, everyone on that O

2897
02:20:34,800 --> 02:20:37,720
Speaker 5: line is like Piney Sewell is blocking for him in

2898
02:20:37,760 --> 02:20:41,320
Speaker 5: a way that's he's part of the attack. And I

2899
02:20:41,480 --> 02:20:45,879
Speaker 5: just with the second, with the second least money pumped

2900
02:20:45,920 --> 02:20:49,360
Speaker 5: into an O line in Chicago and a lot of

2901
02:20:49,360 --> 02:20:51,520
Speaker 5: work to do with the O line to protect Caleb

2902
02:20:51,560 --> 02:20:53,720
Speaker 5: Williams coming off one of the most sacked seasons for

2903
02:20:53,720 --> 02:20:57,440
Speaker 5: an NFL quarterback. I don't, yeah, I think I think

2904
02:20:57,440 --> 02:21:00,120
Speaker 5: you'd rather have Jacksonville. I feel like Jacksonville is like

2905
02:21:00,160 --> 02:21:04,120
Speaker 5: you're gonna have a top pick some really intriguing non

2906
02:21:04,200 --> 02:21:07,440
Speaker 5: quarterback stuff. You have a quarterback who you can work

2907
02:21:07,480 --> 02:21:10,360
Speaker 5: with in Trevor Lawrence, who knows his way around but

2908
02:21:10,440 --> 02:21:13,240
Speaker 5: still just needs some help to rehabilitate himself. I really

2909
02:21:13,240 --> 02:21:14,320
Speaker 5: like that Jacksonville job.

2910
02:21:14,480 --> 02:21:16,520
Speaker 2: All right, I want to go over some of these

2911
02:21:16,520 --> 02:21:18,959
Speaker 2: other openings and some of the names that have.

2912
02:21:19,000 --> 02:21:20,240
Speaker 4: Been floated out there.

2913
02:21:20,720 --> 02:21:26,400
Speaker 2: But first let's find out what is a trendy No,

2914
02:21:26,520 --> 02:21:29,360
Speaker 2: not yet, Okay, hold on, hold on, I'm looking up

2915
02:21:29,400 --> 02:21:33,800
Speaker 2: and I didn't realize everything under Okay, we'll just go on.

2916
02:21:33,920 --> 02:21:34,280
Speaker 1: We'll go on.

2917
02:21:34,320 --> 02:21:35,039
Speaker 4: Don't worry about it.

2918
02:21:35,120 --> 02:21:39,080
Speaker 2: Yes, by the way, Packers Vikings game is just underway

2919
02:21:39,200 --> 02:21:41,760
Speaker 2: right now. Dolphins, by the way, took an early three

2920
02:21:41,800 --> 02:21:45,440
Speaker 2: to nothing lead. Miami is, I guess, technically still alive.

2921
02:21:45,720 --> 02:21:48,840
Speaker 2: I'd like to know how Miami is still alive. I'm

2922
02:21:48,879 --> 02:21:52,560
Speaker 2: trying to figure out the dynamic very carefully. How Miami

2923
02:21:53,040 --> 02:21:58,039
Speaker 2: and Cincinnati are still alive. It would just seem like

2924
02:21:58,080 --> 02:21:59,800
Speaker 2: one of them would be alive and the other team

2925
02:21:59,879 --> 02:22:03,520
Speaker 2: is not alive because the Colts just got eliminated with

2926
02:22:03,560 --> 02:22:04,240
Speaker 2: their loss.

2927
02:22:04,520 --> 02:22:07,279
Speaker 10: But it's probably some strength of victory.

2928
02:22:08,040 --> 02:22:10,640
Speaker 4: Some tie breakers that we haven't been tracking see.

2929
02:22:10,920 --> 02:22:12,880
Speaker 10: Would you like my opinion on what Ben Johnson?

2930
02:22:12,959 --> 02:22:14,800
Speaker 4: Or yes, I would like to have your opinion on

2931
02:22:14,879 --> 02:22:15,520
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson.

2932
02:22:15,520 --> 02:22:18,360
Speaker 2: Would did you like him to replace Nick Sirianni who

2933
02:22:18,360 --> 02:22:19,840
Speaker 2: you want to fight last year?

2934
02:22:19,879 --> 02:22:24,520
Speaker 10: That would actually be pretty sick. I the like Rich said,

2935
02:22:24,520 --> 02:22:26,480
Speaker 10: like the stability in Jacksonville, I don't really know if

2936
02:22:26,480 --> 02:22:29,440
Speaker 10: it's there because they fired Urban Meyer like halfway through the.

2937
02:22:29,520 --> 02:22:32,640
Speaker 4: Urban Meyer was like aggressively destroying everything.

2938
02:22:32,840 --> 02:22:35,039
Speaker 10: Like this is the first time in what like seventy

2939
02:22:35,080 --> 02:22:36,959
Speaker 10: five years that the Bears fired a coach mid season.

2940
02:22:36,959 --> 02:22:38,879
Speaker 10: If you're looking for stability as a coach, like, look

2941
02:22:38,959 --> 02:22:41,000
Speaker 10: no further than Chicago, where you never get fired for

2942
02:22:41,080 --> 02:22:43,040
Speaker 10: no matter no matter what you do, yes, unless you

2943
02:22:43,120 --> 02:22:45,280
Speaker 10: blow like five games with clock management skills.

2944
02:22:45,280 --> 02:22:47,800
Speaker 4: So, by the way, keep looking up.

2945
02:22:47,840 --> 02:22:55,359
Speaker 2: Mitchell Trubisky's record as the Bears starting quarterback.

2946
02:22:53,240 --> 02:22:55,280
Speaker 10: Traded up for does Matt Naggy get another head.

2947
02:22:55,320 --> 02:22:58,880
Speaker 2: Traubisky had a winning record as the starting quarterback of

2948
02:22:58,920 --> 02:23:01,120
Speaker 2: the Bears, and it wasn't a five hundred record.

2949
02:23:01,200 --> 02:23:03,000
Speaker 10: I think the double doing just broke.

2950
02:23:03,760 --> 02:23:04,520
Speaker 4: It really did.

2951
02:23:04,920 --> 02:23:06,840
Speaker 5: Like the fact that they were trying out kickers to

2952
02:23:06,959 --> 02:23:11,520
Speaker 5: make that exact distance in in preseason the year after.

2953
02:23:11,800 --> 02:23:14,119
Speaker 5: I think that did break Matt Naggi's brain a little bit.

2954
02:23:15,120 --> 02:23:17,560
Speaker 2: All right now, I believe it is time to find

2955
02:23:17,560 --> 02:23:21,680
Speaker 2: out what is trading a lot of things going on

2956
02:23:21,840 --> 02:23:23,640
Speaker 2: in the world of Monty Belanos.

2957
02:23:23,760 --> 02:23:27,600
Speaker 11: We're having I guess issues in one of the control

2958
02:23:27,720 --> 02:23:29,280
Speaker 11: rooms with TVs, so we're trying to.

2959
02:23:29,200 --> 02:23:31,280
Speaker 4: Help you out acts it's spreading.

2960
02:23:31,600 --> 02:23:32,360
Speaker 8: No, I'm fine.

2961
02:23:32,360 --> 02:23:34,240
Speaker 11: I'm just we're trying to set up a TV for

2962
02:23:34,360 --> 02:23:35,640
Speaker 11: him to see.

2963
02:23:35,160 --> 02:23:35,840
Speaker 2: Oh this side.

2964
02:23:36,280 --> 02:23:38,400
Speaker 11: That's what we're trying to do over here. But I

2965
02:23:38,400 --> 02:23:40,879
Speaker 11: don't know Dan Byer's got ideas, so we're gonna let

2966
02:23:40,959 --> 02:23:43,240
Speaker 11: him figure it out. I don't want to break anything.

2967
02:23:43,640 --> 02:23:46,680
Speaker 11: There are two games going on right now, Dolphins beating

2968
02:23:46,720 --> 02:23:49,000
Speaker 11: the Browns three zero late in the first quarter. No

2969
02:23:49,120 --> 02:23:52,480
Speaker 11: Tua Tokovailoa for the Dolphins. The Packers and the Vikings

2970
02:23:52,480 --> 02:23:54,800
Speaker 11: are underway, but they are scoreless. It's early in the

2971
02:23:54,879 --> 02:23:58,400
Speaker 11: first what has wrapped up well. The Bills crushed the

2972
02:23:58,480 --> 02:24:01,680
Speaker 11: Jets fourteen forty to fourteen was the final score.

2973
02:24:01,720 --> 02:24:04,320
Speaker 8: Buffalo clinches a number two seed in the AFC.

2974
02:24:04,560 --> 02:24:06,920
Speaker 11: Josh Allen was sixteen of twenty seven, one hundred and

2975
02:24:06,959 --> 02:24:09,680
Speaker 11: eighty two yards, two touchdowns and a rushing touchdown.

2976
02:24:09,720 --> 02:24:11,000
Speaker 8: He didn't play in the fourth quarter.

2977
02:24:11,280 --> 02:24:13,720
Speaker 11: Aaron Rodgers twelve of eighteen, one hundred and twelve yards

2978
02:24:13,720 --> 02:24:14,560
Speaker 11: and two interceptions.

2979
02:24:14,600 --> 02:24:16,199
Speaker 8: He was benched in the fourth quarter.

2980
02:24:16,520 --> 02:24:19,720
Speaker 11: The Raiders topped the Saints twenty five to ten. Brock

2981
02:24:19,800 --> 02:24:22,400
Speaker 11: Bowers ended with seven catches in seventy seven yards, So

2982
02:24:22,400 --> 02:24:24,440
Speaker 11: that's the most receiving yards by a rookie tight end

2983
02:24:24,640 --> 02:24:26,960
Speaker 11: in NFL history. If I did my math right, it's

2984
02:24:26,959 --> 02:24:29,879
Speaker 11: one thousand, one hundred and forty four. He has now

2985
02:24:29,959 --> 02:24:32,720
Speaker 11: also set the single season rookie record for the most receptions.

2986
02:24:32,760 --> 02:24:34,880
Speaker 11: If I did my math right, he's at one hundred

2987
02:24:34,920 --> 02:24:39,320
Speaker 11: and eight. Malik Neighbors for the Giants who beat the

2988
02:24:39,360 --> 02:24:42,360
Speaker 11: Colts today forty five to thirty three. If I did

2989
02:24:42,360 --> 02:24:44,760
Speaker 11: my math correctly, because he had seven catches, one hundred

2990
02:24:44,760 --> 02:24:46,879
Speaker 11: and seventy one yards and two touchdowns, he is up

2991
02:24:46,959 --> 02:24:50,720
Speaker 11: to one hundred and four today myleak neighbors, so maybe

2992
02:24:50,760 --> 02:24:52,800
Speaker 11: he catches up with Brock Bowers because he has one.

2993
02:24:52,720 --> 02:24:54,800
Speaker 8: Hundred and eight. There's still one week left.

2994
02:24:54,879 --> 02:24:58,000
Speaker 11: But yes, the Giants beating the Colts, that snaps their

2995
02:24:58,000 --> 02:25:01,160
Speaker 11: ten game losing streak. It eliminates Occults from the playoffs.

2996
02:25:01,240 --> 02:25:03,400
Speaker 11: But Steve, I don't know where you were reading. What

2997
02:25:03,480 --> 02:25:05,959
Speaker 11: I'm reading is that the Patriots right now have the

2998
02:25:06,040 --> 02:25:08,240
Speaker 11: number one pick in the draft, especially if they lose

2999
02:25:08,280 --> 02:25:10,400
Speaker 11: next week to the Bills, like their percentage went up

3000
02:25:10,440 --> 02:25:12,600
Speaker 11: seventy eight to take the number one pick.

3001
02:25:12,640 --> 02:25:15,160
Speaker 4: All right, Pat you again, I'm going with.

3002
02:25:16,600 --> 02:25:19,680
Speaker 2: A variety of different sites right now, so you're right.

3003
02:25:19,760 --> 02:25:23,000
Speaker 2: I've seen two that have the Giants and two that

3004
02:25:23,160 --> 02:25:23,879
Speaker 2: have the Patriots.

3005
02:25:23,920 --> 02:25:26,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that obviously it depends on next week,

3006
02:25:26,280 --> 02:25:28,160
Speaker 11: but they do play the Bills, the Patriots, so they

3007
02:25:28,160 --> 02:25:30,760
Speaker 11: really do control their own destiny. But I think they

3008
02:25:30,800 --> 02:25:33,920
Speaker 11: have a seventy eight percent chance now of taking the

3009
02:25:34,000 --> 02:25:37,879
Speaker 11: number one pick after their Giants won Today the Eagles

3010
02:25:37,879 --> 02:25:40,280
Speaker 11: they crushed the Cowboys forty one to seven, so the

3011
02:25:40,320 --> 02:25:43,760
Speaker 11: Eagles clinch the NFC East. It marks the twenty straight

3012
02:25:43,840 --> 02:25:47,199
Speaker 11: season without a repeat champion in that division.

3013
02:25:47,280 --> 02:25:50,760
Speaker 2: It's hardworking. I mean it's nuts. Twenty years the Eagles

3014
02:25:50,800 --> 02:25:52,920
Speaker 2: won four in a row from one to four with

3015
02:25:53,040 --> 02:25:54,199
Speaker 2: their coach Andy Reid.

3016
02:25:54,320 --> 02:25:55,720
Speaker 4: Whatever happened to that guy?

3017
02:25:55,760 --> 02:25:56,400
Speaker 8: Where's he doing?

3018
02:25:56,760 --> 02:25:59,879
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's insane that you and we only have

3019
02:26:00,120 --> 02:26:01,800
Speaker 2: fourteens in the division, which.

3020
02:26:01,720 --> 02:26:02,560
Speaker 8: Is what's crazier.

3021
02:26:02,680 --> 02:26:06,400
Speaker 11: Exactly, So twenty straight season, Saquon Barkley had a season

3022
02:26:06,520 --> 02:26:09,199
Speaker 11: high thirty one carries, one hundred and sixty seven yards

3023
02:26:09,320 --> 02:26:11,560
Speaker 11: up to two thousand and five on the season, the

3024
02:26:11,640 --> 02:26:13,800
Speaker 11: ninth player to go over two thousand rushing.

3025
02:26:13,560 --> 02:26:14,640
Speaker 8: Yards this season.

3026
02:26:14,840 --> 02:26:17,360
Speaker 11: We can't forget to mention that Kenny Pickett did get

3027
02:26:17,440 --> 02:26:18,440
Speaker 11: hit in the ribs.

3028
02:26:18,440 --> 02:26:21,480
Speaker 8: They took him out. Rookiet Tanner McKee in the game

3029
02:26:21,680 --> 02:26:22,560
Speaker 8: for the Eagles.

3030
02:26:22,560 --> 02:26:25,160
Speaker 11: He did throw his first touchdown pass to AJ Brown

3031
02:26:25,640 --> 02:26:27,240
Speaker 11: and then they threw that ball in the stands.

3032
02:26:27,240 --> 02:26:30,280
Speaker 8: But don't worry, Big Dom got it back. Confirmed the bucket. Yes,

3033
02:26:30,360 --> 02:26:31,400
Speaker 8: we got it back, Big Dom.

3034
02:26:31,600 --> 02:26:34,800
Speaker 11: The Buccaneers crushed the Panthers forty eight to fourteen behind

3035
02:26:34,840 --> 02:26:37,240
Speaker 11: Baker Mayfield's three hundred and fifty.

3036
02:26:36,959 --> 02:26:39,039
Speaker 8: Nine yards and five touchdowns.

3037
02:26:39,200 --> 02:26:41,200
Speaker 11: Even the Buccaneers defense got in on the fund with

3038
02:26:41,240 --> 02:26:44,039
Speaker 11: the scoop and score after blocking a punt, and finally

3039
02:26:44,080 --> 02:26:47,039
Speaker 11: the Jaguars beat the Titans twenty to thirteen.

3040
02:26:47,600 --> 02:26:49,800
Speaker 1: But a day today, and it.

3041
02:26:49,840 --> 02:26:52,560
Speaker 11: Wasn't supposed to be so exciting, Yeah, it's it turned

3042
02:26:52,560 --> 02:26:53,720
Speaker 11: out to be quite exciting.

3043
02:26:53,760 --> 02:26:55,560
Speaker 8: You never know, you really never know.

3044
02:26:55,760 --> 02:26:56,200
Speaker 1: I never know.

3045
02:26:56,360 --> 02:26:57,760
Speaker 4: Yes, that's of great stuff.

3046
02:26:57,800 --> 02:27:01,720
Speaker 2: As like always, once again we are Red Zone Radio.

3047
02:27:02,000 --> 02:27:02,440
Speaker 1: Don't forget.

3048
02:27:02,520 --> 02:27:04,480
Speaker 2: Right after the show, our podcast is going up. So

3049
02:27:04,520 --> 02:27:06,320
Speaker 2: if you miss any of today's show, be sure to

3050
02:27:06,360 --> 02:27:09,400
Speaker 2: check out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

3051
02:27:09,400 --> 02:27:11,760
Speaker 2: you get your podcasts, and then follow, rate and review

3052
02:27:11,800 --> 02:27:14,760
Speaker 2: the podcast. Again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

3053
02:27:14,800 --> 02:27:17,280
Speaker 2: get your podcasts. You see the show posted right after

3054
02:27:17,640 --> 02:27:20,240
Speaker 2: we get off the air. We're talking about the Bear's

3055
02:27:20,400 --> 02:27:24,680
Speaker 2: situation and their future. By the way, Mitchell Trubisky today

3056
02:27:25,320 --> 02:27:28,599
Speaker 2: had a day one for one, sixty nine yards.

3057
02:27:28,240 --> 02:27:30,560
Speaker 4: And a touchdown. That is a perfect passer rating.

3058
02:27:30,920 --> 02:27:34,320
Speaker 2: And just for the record, his last three years in Chicago,

3059
02:27:34,840 --> 02:27:39,640
Speaker 2: his record as a starting quarterback was twenty five and thirteen. Yeah,

3060
02:27:39,680 --> 02:27:44,840
Speaker 2: his last three years in Chicago as a starting quarterback,

3061
02:27:44,920 --> 02:27:48,480
Speaker 2: his record was twenty five and thirteen.

3062
02:27:49,120 --> 02:27:50,920
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.

3063
02:27:50,959 --> 02:27:54,080
Speaker 2: And they got rid of him twenty five and thirty.

3064
02:27:54,280 --> 02:27:58,240
Speaker 2: You tell me since Jim McMahon, any other Bears quarterback

3065
02:27:58,320 --> 02:28:00,480
Speaker 2: who over a three year span at a record of

3066
02:28:00,520 --> 02:28:01,840
Speaker 2: twenty five and thirteen.

3067
02:28:02,240 --> 02:28:06,440
Speaker 3: Is there anybody out there who is willing to throw

3068
02:28:06,600 --> 02:28:10,040
Speaker 3: in with Steve and say that the Chicago Bears somehow

3069
02:28:10,120 --> 02:28:14,080
Speaker 3: made an awful mistake moving on from Mitchell Trubisky.

3070
02:28:14,400 --> 02:28:17,080
Speaker 4: They had nothing but losing ever since he left.

3071
02:28:17,200 --> 02:28:19,039
Speaker 1: I get it, but I'm just saying, how would.

3072
02:28:18,879 --> 02:28:24,000
Speaker 2: You get rid of a guy? Well, no, his rookie

3073
02:28:24,040 --> 02:28:25,680
Speaker 2: year he was four and eighth. Then the next three

3074
02:28:25,760 --> 02:28:27,600
Speaker 2: years combined he was twenty five to thirteen.

3075
02:28:27,720 --> 02:28:30,080
Speaker 10: It's because the Bears keep doing the cycle where they

3076
02:28:30,440 --> 02:28:34,840
Speaker 10: hire a coach, draft a quarterback, fire, the coach, hire

3077
02:28:34,840 --> 02:28:36,000
Speaker 10: a new GM.

3078
02:28:35,840 --> 02:28:39,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking a quarterback. Okay, so coach and that gets better.

3079
02:28:39,400 --> 02:28:42,400
Speaker 2: That back to the desirability of the Bears. All right,

3080
02:28:42,440 --> 02:28:47,160
Speaker 2: So we've here where Pete Carroll is throwing his hat

3081
02:28:47,200 --> 02:28:49,199
Speaker 2: in the ring. I mean right now, he's hanging around

3082
02:28:49,240 --> 02:28:54,000
Speaker 2: the USC campus doing pretty much nothing, and you know

3083
02:28:54,080 --> 02:28:57,160
Speaker 2: everyone's like, well, you know he's very young for his age,

3084
02:28:57,200 --> 02:29:00,760
Speaker 2: Well he has you know, he's seventy. He what is

3085
02:29:00,800 --> 02:29:03,560
Speaker 2: he now? Seventy three years old, so it'll be seventy

3086
02:29:03,600 --> 02:29:09,000
Speaker 2: four basically September when the season kicks off. If you're

3087
02:29:09,040 --> 02:29:13,160
Speaker 2: a team with a young quarterback like Caleb Williams, who

3088
02:29:13,200 --> 02:29:16,960
Speaker 2: despite all the adversity team laws losing ten straight games,

3089
02:29:17,720 --> 02:29:20,440
Speaker 2: is holding up pretty well, I think. I mean, he

3090
02:29:20,480 --> 02:29:22,440
Speaker 2: made some pretty good amazing did you see some of

3091
02:29:22,440 --> 02:29:25,080
Speaker 2: the throws he made in this last game? Yeah, this guy,

3092
02:29:25,440 --> 02:29:28,600
Speaker 2: he has the ability to make plays. Big Todd, I

3093
02:29:28,640 --> 02:29:31,360
Speaker 2: have a lot of faith in him. Do you want

3094
02:29:31,360 --> 02:29:34,960
Speaker 2: to hire a seventy four year old Pete Carroll to

3095
02:29:35,000 --> 02:29:36,080
Speaker 2: be the guy right now?

3096
02:29:36,120 --> 02:29:37,360
Speaker 4: With a young quarterback like that?

3097
02:29:37,720 --> 02:29:42,160
Speaker 3: I don't think age should really be discussed when trying

3098
02:29:42,160 --> 02:29:44,800
Speaker 3: to figure out whether or not a coach can connect

3099
02:29:44,800 --> 02:29:49,280
Speaker 3: with a players. It's the ambition of the coach to

3100
02:29:49,440 --> 02:29:52,320
Speaker 3: find the meeting points where he can. And how about

3101
02:29:52,360 --> 02:29:56,200
Speaker 3: this for a meeting point football, the wealth of knowledge

3102
02:29:56,200 --> 02:30:00,560
Speaker 3: and experience you've collected over time working with other players

3103
02:30:00,879 --> 02:30:05,400
Speaker 3: and being around young athletes the entirety of your football career.

3104
02:30:05,440 --> 02:30:07,760
Speaker 1: Like Pete Carroll or Bill Belichick or.

3105
02:30:07,720 --> 02:30:11,440
Speaker 3: Any of these aged coaches who are being discussed like

3106
02:30:11,840 --> 02:30:15,600
Speaker 3: there's no chance they'll be able to navigate a successful season,

3107
02:30:15,640 --> 02:30:17,440
Speaker 3: because how can they connect to the locker room.

3108
02:30:17,440 --> 02:30:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't know.

3109
02:30:18,080 --> 02:30:20,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys checked in on Andy Reid.

3110
02:30:20,400 --> 02:30:23,320
Speaker 3: But it's not like he's exactly a spring chicken. He's

3111
02:30:23,360 --> 02:30:27,160
Speaker 3: doing just fine connecting to young players that the.

3112
02:30:27,160 --> 02:30:28,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs are bringing in.

3113
02:30:28,120 --> 02:30:31,640
Speaker 3: Yes, well, like I really don't yes, so to answer

3114
02:30:31,680 --> 02:30:34,280
Speaker 3: your question, and it's a long way to do so. Yeah,

3115
02:30:34,360 --> 02:30:37,800
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll could be the right coach for for Caleb Williams.

3116
02:30:37,800 --> 02:30:39,280
Speaker 1: I don't see any issue.

3117
02:30:39,360 --> 02:30:42,199
Speaker 2: I think it's more than a shot in the dark

3118
02:30:42,280 --> 02:30:46,959
Speaker 2: that he gets that job. I agree, I think I

3119
02:30:47,000 --> 02:30:49,400
Speaker 2: think Pete Carroll. First of all, he would be a

3120
02:30:49,440 --> 02:30:54,119
Speaker 2: fan favorite instantly. Absolutely, Bears fans would be jazzed. I mean,

3121
02:30:54,240 --> 02:30:57,200
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll. Hell, where do we sign up? Are you

3122
02:30:57,280 --> 02:30:59,920
Speaker 2: kidding me? When we look at the carousel of no

3123
02:31:00,240 --> 02:31:03,800
Speaker 2: name coaches they've hired in recent years, I completely bringing

3124
02:31:03,840 --> 02:31:04,840
Speaker 2: a guy like Pete Carroll.

3125
02:31:05,120 --> 02:31:06,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think if you're the Bears, you just have

3126
02:31:06,800 --> 02:31:08,720
Speaker 10: to do everything in your power to get Ben Johnson

3127
02:31:08,760 --> 02:31:10,800
Speaker 10: to come coach your team. And if he doesn't, then

3128
02:31:10,840 --> 02:31:11,680
Speaker 10: oh well you move on.

3129
02:31:11,879 --> 02:31:16,280
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing about Ben Johnson, I mean, year

3130
02:31:16,480 --> 02:31:20,039
Speaker 2: after year after year, we hear about hot shot coordinators,

3131
02:31:20,320 --> 02:31:28,439
Speaker 2: defensive coordinators, defensive coordinators, and the overwhelming majority are a bust.

3132
02:31:28,920 --> 02:31:31,360
Speaker 2: I mean, there aren't that many great coaches in the NFL.

3133
02:31:31,520 --> 02:31:34,200
Speaker 2: So it's honestly, isn't a pretty short list?

3134
02:31:34,320 --> 02:31:36,200
Speaker 10: Isn't it worth trying just in case he is the

3135
02:31:36,240 --> 02:31:37,080
Speaker 10: next Sean McVay.

3136
02:31:37,440 --> 02:31:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what to to your point, think about

3137
02:31:40,280 --> 02:31:45,680
Speaker 3: think about that Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, Uh, think about

3138
02:31:45,760 --> 02:31:48,720
Speaker 3: think about Kevin O'Connell, the success he's out of Minnesota.

3139
02:31:48,800 --> 02:31:51,039
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, you look there and I could give

3140
02:31:51,040 --> 02:31:53,920
Speaker 2: you twenty names right off the top that are right.

3141
02:31:53,920 --> 02:31:57,080
Speaker 1: I know, I know, But but my.

3142
02:31:56,680 --> 02:31:59,880
Speaker 3: My point is shared by bo I think, which is

3143
02:32:00,400 --> 02:32:02,920
Speaker 3: there are a lot of different ways to peel this onion.

3144
02:32:03,280 --> 02:32:04,600
Speaker 1: You know, you could you could do.

3145
02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:06,879
Speaker 3: It the traditional way and you could say, hey, we're

3146
02:32:06,879 --> 02:32:09,880
Speaker 3: gonna value experience and we're slice onion and a half

3147
02:32:09,879 --> 02:32:12,400
Speaker 3: peel the skinner, or you go a different route where

3148
02:32:12,440 --> 02:32:14,640
Speaker 3: you say, all right, this coordinator is a hot shot.

3149
02:32:15,000 --> 02:32:18,040
Speaker 3: He's been on a staff that's doing a lot of winning,

3150
02:32:18,240 --> 02:32:20,800
Speaker 3: and they did it and they did it through a rebuild,

3151
02:32:20,879 --> 02:32:22,920
Speaker 3: which is what a lot of teams who are replacing

3152
02:32:22,959 --> 02:32:25,720
Speaker 3: their head coach are looking for Hey, let's kick the

3153
02:32:25,760 --> 02:32:30,400
Speaker 3: tires on this guy. I like that process too. You

3154
02:32:30,480 --> 02:32:32,960
Speaker 3: don't always have to go for the most experienced guy.

3155
02:32:33,280 --> 02:32:34,960
Speaker 3: And so it's kind of like talking out of both

3156
02:32:35,000 --> 02:32:36,800
Speaker 3: sides of your mouth when you ask the question about

3157
02:32:36,840 --> 02:32:39,600
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll and would he be a fit with Caleb Williams,

3158
02:32:39,680 --> 02:32:42,400
Speaker 3: and then you ask about Ben Johnson because for very

3159
02:32:42,440 --> 02:32:45,560
Speaker 3: different reasons, I feel like they both could potentially be

3160
02:32:45,640 --> 02:32:47,120
Speaker 3: a fit in Chicago.

3161
02:32:47,240 --> 02:32:49,080
Speaker 2: All right, coming out on the other side, we'll get

3162
02:32:49,160 --> 02:32:51,440
Speaker 2: you caught up on the game's going on right now,

3163
02:32:51,600 --> 02:32:54,640
Speaker 2: cleaning this big matchup between the Packers and the Vikings.

3164
02:32:54,680 --> 02:32:57,879
Speaker 2: Gets you ready for Sunday night. This is Red Zone

3165
02:32:57,959 --> 02:33:05,400
Speaker 2: Radio run along Ye closing out here Week seventeen of

3166
02:33:05,440 --> 02:33:08,520
Speaker 2: the NFL season. This is Red Zone Radio and we

3167
02:33:08,560 --> 02:33:11,440
Speaker 2: are a lot from the Tyraq dot Com studios. I

3168
02:33:11,480 --> 02:33:15,480
Speaker 2: want to thank our crew, which is legendary and they

3169
02:33:15,520 --> 02:33:21,480
Speaker 2: deserve all the accolades. Monsey Belanius who has helped Dan Bayer,

3170
02:33:21,560 --> 02:33:23,520
Speaker 2: Dan byer Kerry Roads. Are going to continue on here

3171
02:33:23,560 --> 02:33:27,400
Speaker 2: with Red Zone Radio. And we found out earlier that

3172
02:33:27,440 --> 02:33:30,760
Speaker 2: we were having a hard time watching certain games, and

3173
02:33:30,879 --> 02:33:35,280
Speaker 2: Dan is determined apparently to watch this Brown schime, and

3174
02:33:35,560 --> 02:33:37,720
Speaker 2: so in order to do so, they had to hook

3175
02:33:37,800 --> 02:33:42,520
Speaker 2: up a TV essentially in the update studio where Monsey

3176
02:33:42,640 --> 02:33:48,040
Speaker 2: is sitting right now, and Dan's a very determined guy.

3177
02:33:48,280 --> 02:33:51,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, now, this was my TV that he's basically taken

3178
02:33:51,320 --> 02:33:54,000
Speaker 11: away from me and flipped towards you.

3179
02:33:54,520 --> 02:33:57,400
Speaker 8: Okay, and we've stacked it with some papers.

3180
02:33:57,560 --> 02:33:59,200
Speaker 2: Now, are you going to be able to flip back

3181
02:33:59,240 --> 02:33:59,840
Speaker 2: and forth?

3182
02:34:00,240 --> 02:34:00,400
Speaker 3: No?

3183
02:34:00,400 --> 02:34:02,920
Speaker 11: No, I'm not touching this anymore. Luckily, you know, I

3184
02:34:02,959 --> 02:34:05,840
Speaker 11: have two other screens. I have no issues with the channel,

3185
02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:08,959
Speaker 11: so I'll be okay. But this TV was already here,

3186
02:34:09,080 --> 02:34:10,840
Speaker 11: was just lower, so we just lifted it up and

3187
02:34:10,840 --> 02:34:11,480
Speaker 11: turned it away.

3188
02:34:11,560 --> 02:34:14,680
Speaker 4: Well, it's a game, buzzing Dolphin.

3189
02:34:14,760 --> 02:34:16,520
Speaker 8: I need to see what Tyler Huntley does.

3190
02:34:16,959 --> 02:34:20,560
Speaker 3: All the the phone books that have gone unused for

3191
02:34:21,320 --> 02:34:24,640
Speaker 3: years now have have come into use here at Fox

3192
02:34:24,640 --> 02:34:28,120
Speaker 3: Sports Radio Studios. So a huge thank you to nine

3193
02:34:28,400 --> 02:34:32,400
Speaker 3: X and UH and Bell and all the phone.

3194
02:34:33,280 --> 02:34:35,120
Speaker 4: I feel like someone just walked over my graines.

3195
02:34:35,120 --> 02:34:37,240
Speaker 10: I just hope nobody needs printer paper in the middle

3196
02:34:37,240 --> 02:34:38,400
Speaker 10: of the show because.

3197
02:34:38,120 --> 02:34:41,520
Speaker 4: We took it all. Ye going to be all right? Well,

3198
02:34:41,560 --> 02:34:43,439
Speaker 4: Monci is usual very accommodating.

3199
02:34:44,040 --> 02:34:47,199
Speaker 2: Chris, your thoughts on tomorrow night's game with your Lions

3200
02:34:47,200 --> 02:34:50,039
Speaker 2: on the road against a hungry forty nine Ers.

3201
02:34:49,920 --> 02:34:53,760
Speaker 5: Team pain pain not for the Lions, for the forty

3202
02:34:53,879 --> 02:34:56,119
Speaker 5: nine ers, Oh god, I feel I feel like.

3203
02:34:56,320 --> 02:34:58,880
Speaker 2: I feel like them.

3204
02:34:59,440 --> 02:35:01,800
Speaker 4: I just say that. Yeah, Well, first off, ask yes.

3205
02:35:01,920 --> 02:35:05,360
Speaker 5: Payback is absolutely on Dan Campbell's mind, who I believe

3206
02:35:05,400 --> 02:35:06,920
Speaker 5: this week said that like that was one of the

3207
02:35:06,959 --> 02:35:10,520
Speaker 5: worst game work experiences of his life. And as we've

3208
02:35:10,560 --> 02:35:13,520
Speaker 5: seen from the Cowboys game and when the Lions played

3209
02:35:13,520 --> 02:35:16,320
Speaker 5: the Rams and Bucks two, like things are not forgotten

3210
02:35:16,320 --> 02:35:19,640
Speaker 5: from last year's playoffs, Like they they pulled out every

3211
02:35:19,800 --> 02:35:23,280
Speaker 5: everything on the Cowboys to embarrass them. So that's it

3212
02:35:23,280 --> 02:35:25,600
Speaker 5: doesn't matter how hurt the forty nine ers are are

3213
02:35:25,680 --> 02:35:28,760
Speaker 5: that's on the table for the Lions. And also I

3214
02:35:28,840 --> 02:35:32,520
Speaker 5: have like taken umbrage with this entire storyline this week

3215
02:35:32,600 --> 02:35:35,160
Speaker 5: that like, oh, Dan, you've got to be smart if

3216
02:35:35,280 --> 02:35:37,720
Speaker 5: if the Packers win, you know you've got the one

3217
02:35:37,760 --> 02:35:39,720
Speaker 5: seed wrap You've got the NFC North and the one

3218
02:35:39,720 --> 02:35:40,440
Speaker 5: seed wrapped up.

3219
02:35:40,440 --> 02:35:41,680
Speaker 4: You shouldn't be playing start.

3220
02:35:41,920 --> 02:35:44,640
Speaker 5: They're going to play starters like place I not not

3221
02:35:44,720 --> 02:35:48,160
Speaker 5: only is it not just who Dan Campbell is, but

3222
02:35:48,280 --> 02:35:50,400
Speaker 5: like you don't want to be going in with three

3223
02:35:50,600 --> 02:35:54,720
Speaker 5: weeks of rust into these NFL playoffs, like you still

3224
02:35:54,760 --> 02:35:57,760
Speaker 5: have to stay fresh. You can't rest everyone anyway. Like

3225
02:35:58,440 --> 02:36:02,240
Speaker 5: I it just feels complete misread of how football and

3226
02:36:02,280 --> 02:36:05,920
Speaker 5: its rhythm goes. Also, also who Dan Campbell is as

3227
02:36:05,920 --> 02:36:08,240
Speaker 5: a person and a coach and how this team all

3228
02:36:08,280 --> 02:36:09,520
Speaker 5: adopts his mentalities.

3229
02:36:09,560 --> 02:36:14,720
Speaker 2: Well, the thought process again about especially if you're gonna

3230
02:36:14,720 --> 02:36:17,360
Speaker 2: be the one seed right where you already have a

3231
02:36:17,400 --> 02:36:20,960
Speaker 2: bye week and then you have another week and be

3232
02:36:21,040 --> 02:36:23,440
Speaker 2: off for three weeks. But Rich, we've seen it both

3233
02:36:23,520 --> 02:36:26,000
Speaker 2: ways and never seem to hurt the Patriots to have

3234
02:36:26,040 --> 02:36:29,560
Speaker 2: a bye The Patriots always they knew how it, they

3235
02:36:29,640 --> 02:36:34,480
Speaker 2: knew how to now Tom Brady didn't sit out games, no, no,

3236
02:36:34,560 --> 02:36:35,360
Speaker 2: at the end of a year.

3237
02:36:35,560 --> 02:36:38,560
Speaker 5: And ever, Lion's injuries are not like walking wounded. It's

3238
02:36:38,600 --> 02:36:40,760
Speaker 5: not a bunch of guys nursing the injury with question. Well,

3239
02:36:40,800 --> 02:36:43,360
Speaker 5: it's guys who are like trying to return from the

3240
02:36:43,520 --> 02:36:44,720
Speaker 5: ir right.

3241
02:36:44,720 --> 02:36:48,560
Speaker 2: Right, So I mean my thought process, Rich, maybe as

3242
02:36:48,600 --> 02:36:51,480
Speaker 2: a former player, you have a different thought process. Look,

3243
02:36:51,480 --> 02:36:54,040
Speaker 2: if there are guys that really need the time to

3244
02:36:54,080 --> 02:36:58,119
Speaker 2: get well, then it's a no brainer. But just sitting

3245
02:36:58,160 --> 02:37:02,160
Speaker 2: guys to get a week off when you already have

3246
02:37:02,280 --> 02:37:03,800
Speaker 2: a week off coming doesn't.

3247
02:37:03,560 --> 02:37:05,199
Speaker 5: Make a lot of sense. So it's always like, oh,

3248
02:37:05,360 --> 02:37:07,680
Speaker 5: you know, Jami or Gibbs might get hurt. Yeah, he

3249
02:37:07,720 --> 02:37:10,439
Speaker 5: might get hurt at any point. Yeah, football, Yeah, exactly.

3250
02:37:10,879 --> 02:37:11,920
Speaker 5: Players want to play.

3251
02:37:12,040 --> 02:37:14,640
Speaker 3: I mean, that's pretty much the bottom line is if

3252
02:37:14,680 --> 02:37:17,160
Speaker 3: there's a game a player does want to be on the.

3253
02:37:17,080 --> 02:37:18,400
Speaker 1: Sideline, a game that matters.

3254
02:37:18,480 --> 02:37:22,840
Speaker 3: Now, in the preseason, it is a completely different conversationship completely,

3255
02:37:23,520 --> 02:37:26,920
Speaker 3: But when we're talking about regular season football or postseason

3256
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Speaker 3: football or getting ready to play postseason football.

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Speaker 4: Only have so many games you're going to play in

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Speaker 4: your NFL career.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, correct, And by the end of the season, you

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Speaker 3: want to amass enough experiences that you feel ready for

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Speaker 3: the riggers ahead. I mean, so if you're a player

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Speaker 3: fighting your way off of IR, it's a very different conversation.

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Speaker 3: Or if you're a player who's fresh off the IR

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Speaker 3: who could use some limited reps, it's a very different

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Speaker 3: conversation from a guy who's been healthy or you know,

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Speaker 3: some variety of health throughout the course of the NFL

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Speaker 3: season and getting work because it doesn't matter if you're playing,

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Speaker 3: you know, the the gosh, I mean the just beaten

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Speaker 3: forty nine Ers or the next best team in the NFC,

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Speaker 3: which is the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: You want to play because you want to stack up

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Speaker 3: those experiences and ready yourself for the playoffs ahead.

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Speaker 2: You know, we talk about like coach of the year.

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Speaker 2: How is Kevin O'Connell not a runaway winner? I mean

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Speaker 2: if he took he took Sam Darnold who last year

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Speaker 2: was sitting on the bench during the Super Bowl watching

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Speaker 2: and has made him a Pro Bowl quarterback. They're on

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Speaker 2: any game winning streak going into this Packers game right now.

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Speaker 2: Nobody after the defection of Kirk Cousins and then you

3281
02:38:51,360 --> 02:38:54,520
Speaker 2: remember they were hanging on like JJ McCarthy. Then he

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02:38:54,560 --> 02:38:58,760
Speaker 2: gets hurt, it's over. I mean, it's a throwaway year

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Speaker 2: for thirteen two.

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Speaker 1: They're incredible. That is coach of the year. I can't

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Speaker 1: agree with you more.

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Speaker 3: I think that if he gets passed over and he

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02:39:09,640 --> 02:39:12,959
Speaker 3: gets snubbed Mills, it may be the biggest snubbing of

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Speaker 3: all time.

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Speaker 2: Who else is in the car?

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Speaker 4: Is dan Quinn in the conversation Jim Harbaugh obviously between

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Speaker 4: him and Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 3: Dan Campbell, I mean, I mean, yeah, he's faced a

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02:39:26,560 --> 02:39:28,080
Speaker 3: lot of injuries, but if you look at.

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Speaker 2: It and then you go throw Andy Reid in there, which

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02:39:30,200 --> 02:39:33,120
Speaker 2: I've been sort of almost half jokingly saying, well, this

3296
02:39:33,160 --> 02:39:35,560
Speaker 2: team is that bad, you must be a hell of

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02:39:35,560 --> 02:39:37,320
Speaker 2: a coach to get him to fifteen and one.

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02:39:38,080 --> 02:39:39,560
Speaker 1: It's gotta be Kevin O'Connell.

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02:39:39,600 --> 02:39:40,680
Speaker 4: It has to be.

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Speaker 2: It's a no brainer. All right, What do you think

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02:39:42,920 --> 02:39:45,279
Speaker 2: is gonna happen tonight? Commanders back Falcons.

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Speaker 3: I like the commanders there, they're at home. Yeah, give

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Speaker 3: me the commanders.

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Speaker 2: All right, keep it up because we got more red

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Speaker 2: zone radio