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Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Sean Coleman. Hope, wherever you are and wherever

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Speaker 1: you are listening, hope that you are having an absolutely

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Speaker 1: awesome week so far, and if you're a Braves fan,

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Speaker 1: it's been a fun week. It's been a stressful week,

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Speaker 1: but at least it has been a fun week. Once again,

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Speaker 1: the Braves within one game of five hundred in dramatic fashion,

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Speaker 1: and we're here to break it all down as usual

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Speaker 1: here on the Hammer Territory Podcast, and as always, my

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Speaker 1: podcast partner, one of the best of the game when

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Speaker 1: it comes to cover in the Braves, Stephen Tolbert with me. Stephen,

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Speaker 1: good night, good night, Hello to you, sir. I hope

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Speaker 1: that you're having a good night. Result of the game

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Speaker 1: probably helped.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is another one of those games where the

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Speaker 2: last ten minutes really could have affected the tone of

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Speaker 2: this podcast. We've had a few of those here recently,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I was thinking about it sometime around

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Speaker 2: like the sixth or seventh inning. This this team reminds

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Speaker 2: me a lot of my golf game and anybody who

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Speaker 2: plays golf, anybody who plays golf, at least on an

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Speaker 2: amateur level. You go out one day and your driver

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Speaker 2: is fantastic, but you know, if your driver's fantastic, your

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Speaker 2: irons suck. And then you go out the next time

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Speaker 2: and your irons are fantastic and your driver suck. And

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Speaker 2: if by some miracle your irons and your driver are

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Speaker 2: both working, your putter is nowhere to be found. Like

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Speaker 2: that's just golf. Anybody who plays knows exactly what I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about. And those three things are the Braves offense,

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Speaker 2: the Braves pitching, and the Braves bullpen right now where

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Speaker 2: like it just seems like every time they get one going,

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Speaker 2: has gotten really chrystale, Schwallenbach, the bullpen have all gotten

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Speaker 2: substantially better. We talked about how good the other three

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Speaker 2: guys in the rotation are doing, and as soon as

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Speaker 2: that happens, the offense just goes to hell. And it's like,

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Speaker 2: at any point can we get all aspects of this

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Speaker 2: a good series. The Brace took three or four, but

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Speaker 2: it was a frustrating series because they had to fight

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Speaker 2: like hell multiple ninth inn He comebacks. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: how sustainable that model is going forward, but a wins

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Speaker 2: a wins a win, so we take them anyway we

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Speaker 2: can get them. But still some things with this team

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Speaker 2: that we need to see get better. And it would

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Speaker 2: help a lot if at one point, any point in

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Speaker 2: this season, all aspects of the team could be going

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Speaker 2: at the same time. That would make my life a

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Speaker 2: hell of a lot less stressful.

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Speaker 1: I have it on good authority that the only thing

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Speaker 1: in this world that's more guaranteed to land in the

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Speaker 1: triple digits than a Mason Miller fan ball is Stevens

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Speaker 1: Tolbrits golf scorer through the front nine. But AnyWho, that's

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Speaker 1: for another day in time. The point that I'm getting

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Speaker 1: back a year ago, this Brave's team reminds me a

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Speaker 1: lot of where we were a year ago and for

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Speaker 1: at least the starting pitching. Tonight, we're going to get

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Speaker 1: into how the bullpen once again was a bit shaky.

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Speaker 1: This offense is struggling badly when it comes to being

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Speaker 1: something that at least can maintain confidence. I told Stephen

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Speaker 1: before the podcast, I think the concerns of of why

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Speaker 1: we're having to win so many games late like we

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Speaker 1: better to look back and see where you can improve

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Speaker 1: right now, yes, I think there are some clear concerns

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, the Reds and the Dodgers are two

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Speaker 2: people learned who probably didn't already know, at least in

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Speaker 2: we talked about it coming into the series. The Reds

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Speaker 2: were above five hundred. They were a plus thirty five

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Speaker 2: They were a real team, mostly driven by how their

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Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna I don't want to overreact too

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Speaker 2: much to this one stretch of seven games against those

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Speaker 2: and you know, it shouldn't take multiple ninth inning comebacks

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Speaker 2: pitching is good, enough, but still like these are the team,

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Speaker 2: These are the level teams you gotta beat, and you

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Speaker 2: gotta beat teams even better than this, quite honestly. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Braves offense needs to be better. Acunya will help, obviously,

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Speaker 2: Radugo has run into some kind of a cold stretch.

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Speaker 2: I think he's over like his last seventeen and we've

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Speaker 2: So but they need more. They certainly need more on offense,

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Speaker 2: you know, as well as Schwallenbach pitched in this game,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna talk about him in a minute. Of course,

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Speaker 2: this should have been an easier win and it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: But credit to them. They have been eight to ninth

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Speaker 2: games that they didn't head it, you know, didn't have

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Speaker 1: On to Pittsburgh. And it's nice to say on to

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing. This Brase team is winning and

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Speaker 1: about how much success they've had with aj smith schaubor

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Speaker 1: Grant Holmes or Bryce Elder on the mountain, the pull

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Speaker 1: It's been pretty nails overall over the past few weeks.

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Speaker 1: But no doubt about it, the Braves are going to

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Speaker 1: as Spencer Schwellenbach. In Spencer Swellerbach, it feels like, for

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Speaker 1: the first time in maybe two or three weeks, had

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Speaker 1: Six innings pitched, five hits, allowed, six strikeouts, two walks.

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Speaker 1: the big keeper tonight, Stephen, is that those balls were elevated.

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Speaker 1: They were on the ground where he allowed for his

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Speaker 1: we talked about that. The Braves defense has been pretty

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Speaker 1: Reds offense is not murderer's row, but this is one

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Speaker 1: Bray's got the win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, much better start, of course. I mean obviously you

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Speaker 2: you know, by process, there's still things that he needs

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Speaker 2: I mean he's literally he's doing ninety seven, ninety eight,

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Speaker 2: ninety nine, you know, the entire game, but it's you know,

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Speaker 2: too often it's in the middle of the plate and

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Speaker 2: especially in the first pitch, and I thought the broadcast

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Speaker 2: if he's doing that on purpose. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: he's just trying to get ahead. You know, Glavin was

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Speaker 2: sure his thinking is, I'm throwing this hard, even down

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Speaker 2: the middle. It's hard to hit, and he's right, that

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Speaker 2: But even when he's throwing the slider the curveball, there's

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Speaker 2: a couple of times to night. We'll get to in

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Speaker 2: a minute with Iglesias, but I don't want to nitpick

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Speaker 2: too much. Let a six innings, one run, it's something

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Speaker 2: to build on, right, It's something to kind of launch

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Speaker 2: you into your next start, which hopefully is even better,

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Speaker 2: and then you're on a roll and kind of like

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Speaker 2: So you know, the schedule is gonna lighten up. He's

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Speaker 2: gonna get some offense, is and aren't the greatest in

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Speaker 2: he if him and Sale really did start turning this

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Speaker 1: Absolutely it does, And we'll continue to talk about some things.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's great to celebrate the win, but again,

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Speaker 1: these late inning comebacks, as fun as they are, to see,

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Speaker 1: how sustainable is it?

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Speaker 2: Again?

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Speaker 1: Some concerns certainly we're talking about that are leading to

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Speaker 1: many of these late inding victories. We'll get more into

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Speaker 1: All right, Steven, let's let's kind of go through this game,

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Speaker 1: because I think that this game definitely was You like

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Speaker 1: perform at their best, they've got to go with their

431
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,679
Speaker 1: best in the right situations and the other thing that

432
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: they've got to do. Steven, because this is really getting

433
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:28,439
Speaker 1: into my crawl. Stop flipping bunting, Please stop bunting. I

434
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 1: get the concept. I understand the reason why you're looking

435
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: to bunt. It gives you a higher floor of an

436
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 1: outcome when you're in a need for a productive app

437
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: But with how inconsistent this offense is, and when they're

438
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: down laid in games or when they're tied lading games,

439
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 1: they need for each it back to have as much

440
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,919
Speaker 1: potential as possible. That is allowing for your hitters to

441
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 1: be able to actually having it back, especially someone like

442
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: at Eli White who right now is one of your

443
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 1: best hitters. Just stop bunting. There's not really it's not

444
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: really working out that consistently enough for you to do

445
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: it as frequently as you are, soapbox removed. Let's get

446
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 1: back to the game itself. The thing that I'll say

447
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,479
Speaker 1: is is that again getting back to these decisions that

448
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 1: aren't really making a lot of sense. You know, he

449
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: puts Stuart Fairchild in for Marcelo Zuna in the eighth run,

450
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: but then Fairchild didn't really do anything on the basis

451
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 1: and so you didn't take full advantage of the reason

452
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: why you put Fairchild in the game, and it wound

453
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 1: up now nothing against Stuart Fairchild. I think he did

454
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: fine in terms of what he had, but you did

455
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 1: take away the opportunity for Marcelo Zuna to be up

456
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: in a big spot in the tenth Again, it just

457
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 1: seems like it's not necessarily all the decisions that Brian

458
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: Sticker is making is wrong necessarily. It's just that he's

459
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: making a lot of decisions that don't that seem to

460
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: lower the overall potential that this offense has when it

461
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,479
Speaker 1: needs to have as much potential as possible. When it

462
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Speaker 1: comes to outcomes that will lead to run.

463
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a weird night for Snit. It's kind

464
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: of felt like he kind of overmanaged a little bit.

465
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: It just kind of felt like he was pulling levers

466
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Speaker 2: just to pull him, you know. Starting with Azuno, Zuna

467
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 2: gets a two out single. It was in the set,

468
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 2: bottom of the seventh or bottom of the eighth, I

469
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: can't remember. He gets a two out single, two outs,

470
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 2: nobody on. He gets a single, and Snitt immediately pulls

471
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Speaker 2: him for Fairchild to pinch run. And obviously what he's

472
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: thinking is if if Matt Olsen hits a double, I

473
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: want the run to score because it's the go ahead run.

474
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 2: But when there are two outs in the inning, you're

475
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 2: the run expectancy in that situation is very low, and

476
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Speaker 2: it's even lower if Fairchild is just gonna stand at

477
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Speaker 2: first base. Now, Fairchild immediately took off and went to

478
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Speaker 2: second base and tried to steal. Okay, I can't at

479
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 2: least justified a little bit, but Fairchild just stood there

480
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: waiting for Olsen to either hit one in the gap

481
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: or hit one over the wall. It just that that's

482
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Speaker 2: not a high enough run expectancy to take Azuna out.

483
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: Of the game when there's a very good chance he's

484
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna need his bat at some point later in

485
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 2: the game. So yeah, I did not like that. You know,

486
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: there was the bunting. Eli White bunted twice in this game.

487
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Speaker 2: You know, there was a time where Eddie Rosario pinch ran.

488
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 2: Eddie Rosario was the pinch runner for Sean Murphy. I'm

489
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Speaker 2: I don't, I honestly don't know that Eddie Rosario is

490
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: faster than Sean Murphy. Now, Rosario did score the tying

491
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Speaker 2: run in the ninth inning, but he was struggling around

492
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Speaker 2: the bases. Yeah, and then obviously Orlando came up in

493
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: the extra innings and he bunted and he you know,

494
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 2: he popped out, and everybody freaked out on Orlando because

495
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: that's the first time he's had a plate appearance in like,

496
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: you know, six weeks, and that's what he does with it.

497
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: It was a weird game by snit. And then you

498
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Speaker 2: add in the bullpen decisions. You know, I think he

499
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: was I think he was desperate for this win. I

500
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: think he was trying to be aggressive as possible. I

501
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Speaker 2: just don't think they I don't think a lot of

502
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: them made sense. Quite honestly, I don't love any Rosario

503
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: on this team. I don't actually love Orlando Orci on

504
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 2: this team, because you get into situations where neither one

505
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: of them were good enough to pinch hit and neither

506
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: one of them are fast enough to pinch run, and

507
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: you're like, what the hell are these guys doing on

508
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 2: a major league pinch like those are the two big

509
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 2: roles that you have on as a bench player. Is

510
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: you're gonna pitch hit or you're gonna pinch run, And

511
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: neither one of those guys can do either one of

512
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 2: them either. Neither can play defense either, And you know,

513
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 2: and obviously OURCA is a big drop off from Allen defensively,

514
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: which is why he's lost his job. And Razio Rosario

515
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 2: is terrible defensively. So I don't understand the you know,

516
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: some of that's not snit's fault. I don't quite understand

517
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: some of the pieces on the bench as currently constructed.

518
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: But we're not gonna let this train get too far

519
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: down the track. They made enough plays to win the game,

520
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: and I want to say the name of somebody before

521
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 2: we forget, because I will forget the hero of this game.

522
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: Besides Drake Baldwin. Obviously, the game winning hit was Scott

523
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: Blewett was the hero of this game. Two innings pitched

524
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: in extras with a ghost runner on second, and he

525
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: doesn't give a I don't even know if the Reds

526
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: got a runner to third in either one of those innings. Now,

527
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: there was a couple of really good defensive plays. Matt

528
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: Olson made an incredible defensive play. Drake Baldwin made a

529
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: great throw on a guy's trying to steal. But Scott

530
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: blew It was amazing, and Scott blew It's been amazing

531
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: since he's come over. And you know, that dude's got

532
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: some real peripherals, like some real stuff behind his numbers

533
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: that make me think like this guy might actually be

534
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 2: something more than just a you know, a low leverage reliever.

535
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: Those were not low leverage innings. He was pitching the

536
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Speaker 2: night and he was unreal. He was sitting ninety five,

537
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 2: ninety six, ninety seven, the slider, the splitter, like he's

538
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: a that dude's got something in it. You know, that

539
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: just got some real juice. And I was blown away

540
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: with how well he did tonight. I you know, I

541
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: think he won the Braves the game, quite honestly.

542
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Speaker 1: But also discussed as good as Scott blew it was.

543
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: I think it also is getting back to a name

544
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: that we had mentioned a bit earlier in the show.

545
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: The reason why the Braves were in this position to

546
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: begin with, and what has been an unfortunate thing so

547
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: far this year is Rice Iglesias. You know, I know

548
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: I talked about him earlier, but there's some real concerns here.

549
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: He's given up six some runs so far this year,

550
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: and he gave up four all of last year in

551
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: seventy innings. Six so far this year, I believe in

552
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen innings now, however, as much he's thrown, there's

553
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: some concern. I'm not saying that we're to the point

554
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: to where you know, he shouldn't be considered the main

555
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: guy for the ninth, but if you are lacking confident

556
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: from him getting the job done when he goes out there,

557
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't blame you a bit. Stephen. You talked all

558
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: winter about the fact that there were clear signs that

559
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: the regression monster could eventually show up at some point.

560
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: This year, it is showed up, and it showed its

561
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: head early on this season. Unfortunately. I think that Rysliglesius

562
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: will obviously be better as the season goes along. I

563
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to come close to what he

564
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: was last year. But the Braves need for him to

565
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: be some sort of consistent. They need for him to

566
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: at least be trustworthy. Right now, with the way that

567
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: he's going, it's hard to say that. It's hard to

568
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: say with confidence that you could find his overall performance

569
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: trustworthy at the moment.

570
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just inconsistent. Like he goes through these stretches

571
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: where he looks awesome. You know, a couple of games

572
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: before this one, he had some really strong outings, some

573
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:25,479
Speaker 2: like seven eight pitch saves. It's mostly command and listen.

574
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Speaker 2: There was no chance he was repeating last year. Last

575
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: year was a one off. There was not a single

576
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: number in his profile that had any indication that last

577
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: year was in any way sustainable or repeatable. It just

578
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna happen. And that's why we spend all off

579
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: season trying to kind of warn people that this was good,

580
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: probably gonna happen.

581
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Speaker 1: No.

582
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Speaker 2: I now, I'm not gonna pretend like I expected it

583
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Speaker 2: to this level. I did not, nor did I expect

584
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: it this fast. It's kind of come all at once

585
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: here at the beginning of the year. But he is

586
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: just he is not as good a pitcher as he

587
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: was last year, as he showed last year, and this

588
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: is some regression to the me now. I think it's

589
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: probably gone a little too far. I think it'll go back.

590
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: I think he's better than this. I think he's left

591
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: some pitches over the middle of the plate, and it

592
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: seems like every time he leaves one over the middle

593
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: of the plate, the guy doesn't miss it. And tonight,

594
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: you know, the guy hit a rocket double to right

595
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: center field, and then the next guy, you know, he

596
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: got ahead o two on two really good sliders, and

597
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: then he threw one of the worst pitches I've ever seen,

598
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: just just a hanging middle middle, just like high school

599
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: level slider, and the dude hit it, you know, three

600
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: miles for a two run homer. So I don't know,

601
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen. You know, Snit is

602
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: incredibly loyal to his closers. We've seen this before, Will Smith,

603
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: you know, Kenley Jansen. We've seen the Braves kind of

604
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: struggle with closers inconsistencies in the past and snit usually

605
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 2: has to have his arm twisted for months before he

606
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: makes any sort of move. I do wonder at some

607
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: point if Dave's bell maybe gets a look das Bell's

608
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: looks so good, that's a fascinating you know, that's gonna

609
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: be a fascinating thing to watch. Quite honestly, is is

610
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: how prevalent are these inconsistencies from Rossiel now to and

611
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: I wasn't a save opportunity, which is always tough, you know,

612
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: tougher for a closer, but still he didn't pitch well,

613
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's gonna be a storyline looking forward. Is

614
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: how long is his leash? How many of these can

615
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: he have before the Braves decide we might have to

616
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: try somebody else there.

617
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Speaker 1: The one thing that I think needs to be said, though,

618
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: is that, yes, while right sol Iglesias has struggled, you know,

619
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Speaker 1: for much of this season so far, I think that

620
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: it's fair to say. But also besides that, the hierarchy

621
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: of this Bullpion has kind of fell into place quite well. Overall,

622
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: this phrase bullpen, I think, especially over the past few weeks,

623
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: has done very well. They're still going to have some

624
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, shaking outings and things like that, but you

625
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: just manage mentioned Day's Bill, Who's been a great revelation

626
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: so far this and he's taken over the eighth inning.

627
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: Goott Blewit's been a great addition. Pierce Johnson, Dylan Lee.

628
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: I feel those guys are doing just fine. I know

629
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Burber can kind of be up and down, but

630
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 1: still think he is a pretty good reliever, you know

631
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: when you need for it to happen. So the rest

632
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: of this bullpen has kind of fallen into place in

633
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: the way that you had hoped it would. I think

634
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: that it's getting to the point of being reliable, and

635
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: I think the right seld laces will be just fine

636
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: getting there as well.

637
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: I do want to add this because I got no

638
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: joke seventeen replies on Twitter tonight as soon as it happened.

639
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: Craig Kimberl is not going to close for this team

640
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: like people think Craig Kimberl is like making his way

641
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: through the miners to come up and be the Brad's closer. Like, guys,

642
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,959
Speaker 2: I don't. That's not gonna happen like that. That's not

643
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: to Craig Kimberl. That's coming. And I really hope people

644
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: don't expect that, Like maybe they put Kimberle in high

645
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: leverage at some point, because nit will put anybody in

646
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: high leverage, as we've learned. But if you think Kreig

647
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: Kimberl is coming up to like be the guy, this

648
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: is not twenty fourteen, you know, Kimberle. I just I need,

649
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: I really want to help people set expectations about what

650
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: Kimberle is, what he isn't and what to expect when

651
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: he gets here, if he gets here, because it's not

652
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 2: to be like a fifty saved closer like he was

653
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: the you know the first time he was a brave

654
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: That's that's a decade ago, and people need to kind

655
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: of let that go. Yeah.

656
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: I would rather see Scott blew It in a high

657
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: leverage situation.

658
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: Right now, one hundred percent, rather to see days Bill.

659
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we're picking new closers. Kimberl's not anywhere

660
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: near the top.

661
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Iglesias, Day's Bell, Dylan Lee, Pierce Johnson, Scott blew At,

662
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: Aaron Bummer. I would take all those guys over Kimberl

663
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: and high leverage. I don't mean anything negative towards Craig

664
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: Kimberrel in that aspect, I just don't think his basketball

665
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: is there anymore to where you can consistently trust him

666
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: in that situation. But speaking of potential moves that could come,

667
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: we did receive word today that we may be a

668
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: bit closer than some may have anticipated to a significant

669
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 1: roster move occurring when it to the Braves pitching staff.

670
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: And that is the fact that Spencer Strider he got

671
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: a positive review today. He got some positive news after

672
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: his bullpen yesterday. I know it kind of threw some

673
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: by surprise that there wasn't any update after his bullpen,

674
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: But I believe the word is he's gonna throw another

675
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: bullpen in Pittsburgh, and then after that it may even

676
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: be to the point to where, if that goes well,

677
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: he could come back without even doing a rehab start.

678
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: That's the first bit of interesting news. But the second

679
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: bit of interesting news, Steven, is that the discussion now

680
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: is about maybe seeing a six man rotation.

681
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: Now.

682
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: I get the idea of the Braves having a six

683
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: man rotation. It limits innings, it allows for people to

684
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: kind of work back into getting into their normal workload,

685
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: all those different things. I personally am not the biggest

686
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: fan of a six man rotation because I think that

687
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: what it does is that it does not allow for

688
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: you to throw your best arms as often, and right now,

689
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: that's what the Braves need to do. But that's to

690
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: be an interesting development. I think we see it at first.

691
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: I think we see a six man rotation at first,

692
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: but eventually you see the bullpen needing to have moves

693
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: made to again make it reliable. Stephen, what say you,

694
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: It's good good to hear the idea that you know,

695
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: possibly we could see striderback, maybe within the next week

696
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: to ten days, possibly, But that six man rotation idea

697
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: is pretty interesting. I think they at least look into it,

698
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised if as short lived, and

699
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: I kind of want it to be to make sure

700
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: we're pitching our best arms as often as possible.

701
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, we know they did it last year,

702
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: and they were obviously very concerned about the number of

703
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: innings their top guys were throwing last year, Chris Sale,

704
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: trying to keep them healthy, you know, Ronaldo being a

705
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: starter for the first time in a few years. So

706
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 2: it would not surprise me at all. Some of it's

707
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 2: gonna depend on how well Elder, Smith Schalver and Grant

708
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: Holmes continue to pitch. You know, the first time those

709
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: you know, one of those guys has two bad starts

710
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 2: in a row, you're probably gonna start hearing, well, let's

711
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: just go back to a five man rotation and either

712
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: option one of them or stick them in the bullpen.

713
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: And by the way, sticking them in the bullpen should

714
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: not be ignored, because that's very real possibility at this point.

715
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what, I would just love to

716
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: get to the point where that's the problem we're discussing,

717
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 2: where they have they have too many starters. I would

718
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: love to get to that point because we've been We've

719
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: spent this entire season desperate for starters, you know, needing

720
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: guys like Bryce Elder and A. J. Smithschalver to cover.

721
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 2: You know, I think Elders made four or five starts

722
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: already this year. That was not plan a by any means.

723
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 2: So I would just love to get to the point

724
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: where that's that's the conversation, is what do we do

725
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: with these six starters? It was really good to hear.

726
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 2: I was really surprised to hear that that Spencer Striter

727
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: might not need a rehab appearance. That hit, that's how

728
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 2: good his bullpen looked, and that's how good he felt.

729
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: I'm always nervous, Listen, I worry about everything, especially the pitching.

730
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: I'm always nervous about Spencer until we see him start

731
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: for like a month and really feel good. The elbow

732
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: feels good, the hamstring feels good. I'm gonna be on

733
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: pins and needles the whole time. But from everything they're

734
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 2: saying publicly, he looks great, he feels great. I'm gonna

735
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: lean on that. I'm gonna, you know, Jesus take the wheel.

736
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lean on that, and hopefully this guy can

737
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: get healthy. Because good Lord, did the Braves need another starter?

738
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: You know, they need someone else, because as good as

739
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: Grant Holmes, A. J. Smith Shaler and Bryce Elder have been,

740
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: I feel like that's a bit on borrow time. I

741
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 2: don't feel like that's entirely sustainable for the next six months.

742
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: I would love to just be able to enjoy that

743
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: and then move Spencer Strider into one of those spots

744
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: and say thank you, Bryce Elder for everything he did.

745
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: We'll call you back up if we need you. You know,

746
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 2: something like that or if they go to the six

747
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 2: man or if they put one of them in the bullpen.

748
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: I hope that's where we are in a couple of

749
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: weeks or maybe even sooner than that, because that's how

750
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: good the news was on Strider today. So yeah, that

751
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: was a really that was That was a wonderful bit

752
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 2: of news that we were unexpected that we unexpectedly got.

753
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: Today from the unexpected shout out to Carrie under who

754
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: would Jesus take the wheel to Another great development when

755
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: it comes to this series is the fact that one

756
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: player that we have talked about, you know, we mentioned

757
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: it on the last podcast. We really didn't want to

758
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: get too much into how much he struggled so far

759
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: this year, but it should not, in any way, shape

760
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: or form be ignored that Michael Harris the second had

761
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: a really good series against the Reds. Yes, he still

762
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: struggled at the play, you know that that last at

763
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: bat you know where he kind of you know, seemed

764
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: kind of off balance, you know, as a bad at

765
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: bat and a big moment against the Reds reliever of

766
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: one of the twins, Taylor Rodgers.

767
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: Taylor Rodgers, there I get him confused to Tyler Taylor.

768
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: I can never remember.

769
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: He did struggle with that at bat, but so many

770
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: big gins in this series. Again, if he could ever

771
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 1: get going and and and I know that he began

772
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: he to that is the ability to be able to

773
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: take pitches just so frustrating when he does not do that.

774
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: But he had a big series. This is a moment

775
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: for him to build off of. It would be great

776
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 1: to see that because as we get into a tougher

777
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: part of the schedule, if we could get Michael Harrison,

778
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: Ronald Accoon junior boat going the same time, you want

779
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: to talk about this offense going to the next level,

780
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: that would be a pretty clear way to get it done.

781
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, he needs credit. That's a huge series. I mean,

782
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: you know, he had a triple in an RBI triple

783
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 2: that gave the Braves the lead in the sixth inning

784
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: or fifth inning, and then he had that big at

785
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 2: bat in the ninth inning, right and came through with

786
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: a singles scored Eddi Rosario. Listen, it wasn't hard hit,

787
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: but it was well placed and that's all that matters.

788
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 2: You know, there's been a lot of talk about Michael

789
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: you know, unequivocally he's having a down year. You know,

790
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: anybody can look at his numbers. You know, I think

791
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 2: he's at like a sixty five WRC plus for the year.

792
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: He's not having the year he wants. He still needs

793
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: to walk more. I mean, you gotta walk more. You

794
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: have to. He can't run a two percent walk grate.

795
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean you can go through major

796
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: league history and look at like successful offensive players and

797
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: how many of them ran a sub three percent walk grate.

798
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: It's it's basically impossible to find. It just doesn't happen.

799
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: So he has to walk more. Everybody knows that he's

800
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: got to. And not only just walk more, he's got

801
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: to take more bad pitches, even if they don't necessarily

802
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: end and walks. He's just got to have better process

803
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: where he's swinging at good pitches. Listen, when this dude

804
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: swings it strikes and he makes contact, the ball can

805
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 2: go forever. The dude's got light tower power. The dude,

806
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: I mean he's got you know, he's got ability to

807
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: hit all over the field. He can run like the wing.

808
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 2: He's a great defender. He's literally this one thing away

809
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: from being a great player. But it's such a big

810
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: thing that if he doesn't do it, it could it

811
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: could wreck his career. You know, I've talked about this

812
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: a lot with Hobby Bayas, but this thing literally wrecked

813
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: Hobby Bias' career. Despite all the talent in the world,

814
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: all the defensive potential, all power in the world, if

815
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: you don't fix this one thing, it can wreck you.

816
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: And so great series from Mike, huge, huge hits. I

817
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 2: mean won the game, one of the you know, other

818
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: than Scott blew It. You know, the next hero in

819
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: this team in this game was Michael Harris for sure,

820
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: multiple at bets where he drove in runs, critical runs

821
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: that the Braves would not have won without. So yeah,

822
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: he needs his flowers for this series. Great series. Let's

823
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: start to see better process. Let's start to see some

824
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 2: more walks, you know, some more takes on bad pitches,

825
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: get into good hitters, counts, and let your natural talent

826
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: take over. Because he's still got a ton of natural talent,

827
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: he really does. And if he can do it a

828
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: little better, we could would see more series like this,

829
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: you know, if he could take some more pitches, we

830
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: would see more series like this, And that's what we

831
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: all want. We want this. Michael Harris there was.

832
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: One more hero in this game, and I think that

833
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: it's an interesting player to discuss because you actually wrote

834
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: about this over at Talking excuse me, Battery Power. You

835
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: wrote about this over at Battery Power. You talked about

836
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: what the usage the utilization of Drake Baldwin. You wrote

837
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: about this about seven to ten days ago. And it's

838
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: hard to sit Sean Murphy right now. We talk about

839
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: the need for this offense to have as many good

840
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: hitters as possible. Sean Murphy's clearly been one of our

841
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: best so far this year. But Drake Baldwin coming through

842
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: again in a big situation I think shows why even

843
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: though he may be out there getting consistent play in

844
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: time in terms of every day at bats, he still

845
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: has a pretty frequent calling in big moments that I

846
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: think allow for him to still get value out of

847
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: his role for this team, and that is four plus

848
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: times a week. He is an advantage to use off

849
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: this bench. If Snicker makes the right call, he can

850
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: be an advantage at the plate. And that's such a

851
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: nice luxury for the Braves to have, is that whether

852
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: Baldwin or Murphy you're starting, the other could be a

853
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: nice late inning option to go to as a replacement

854
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: or in a pitch hitting situation. And that's what Baldwin did.

855
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: He hit a home run. I believe last night he

856
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: got the game winning hit tonight. He is showing that

857
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: even if he's not getting frequent playing time, he can

858
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: still be ready in the right situation. And that is

859
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: such a good measure of a player who's going to

860
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: be able to contribute to the major leagues when his

861
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: number is called. It was great to see him come

862
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: through once again. And is a rookie, He's shown that

863
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: he's made for the big moments. He's delivered time and

864
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: time again.

865
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that's the question I posed in that article,

866
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: was is this the best use of him? Right? Like?

867
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 2: Is it? You know, he's basically starting two games a week.

868
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: You know, at this rate, he's gonna get probably less

869
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 2: than three hundred plate appearances on the year. Is that

870
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: the good use of your top prospect? Are you sacrificing

871
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: too much developmental time with him by him sitting on

872
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: the bench so much? And one of the points I

873
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: made in that article was the reason I think he

874
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: keeps doing it and the Braves are keep being okay

875
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: with it is because of the quality of the bats

876
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 2: he's putting up despite the fact that he does not

877
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: have consistent playing time or consistent plate appearances. It is

878
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: not normal for a young a player this young to

879
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: be able to do what he's doing. I've talked about

880
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: this a lot before, but bench players are almost always

881
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: veteran players because they're familiar and they are used to

882
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: staying ready without consistent playing time. Young players are not.

883
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: Young players need consistent playing time to maintain their level.

884
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: And that's one of the things that makes what Drake

885
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: Baldwin's doing so incredible, Because this dude is putting up

886
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: ten year veteran at bats as a twenty four year old,

887
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: despite getting like five six at bats a week. I

888
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: really can't explain it. I mean, this dude's just an advanced,

889
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: advanced hitter. And listen, Sean Murphy had a big hit

890
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: to night. He hit that ball that went over the

891
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: right fielder's head in the ninth inning that helped spark

892
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: that rattle, and then of course Drake Baldwin came in

893
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: and had the big hit in the eleventh. They need

894
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: to win the game. As much as I think there

895
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: is a legitimate argument that the brids are hurting his

896
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: development by sitting him so much. I don't think you can.

897
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: I don't think you can take him out of the role.

898
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 2: He's just too good at it. I mean, the fact

899
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: that his abats are this good or is insane. And

900
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: if the quality of his advats had dropped it all

901
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: after Sean Murphy came back, I would have said, send

902
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: it back to Triple A. But they haven't. If anything,

903
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 2: they've gone up. I mean, he had a home run

904
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: in his one start of this series yesterday, and then

905
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: he comes off the bench and his the game winning

906
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: hit today. This kid's twenty four years old. It doesn't

907
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: make sense. It doesn't make sense how good he is.

908
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: And all the credit in the world to him, man,

909
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: I mean, just an incredible, incredible player, way better than

910
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 2: I thought he was. And that kid looks like he's

911
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: a legitimate piece for the future.

912
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: And and it's a rare situation where well, I think it's

913
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: fair to discuss, you know, is it best for his development.

914
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: It's clearly the best for the Braves to have him

915
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: in the majors. Exactly, exactly, absolutely what it comes down

916
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: to for this offense that struggles with so much inconsistency

917
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 1: at least consistently having an option that you can feel

918
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: competent in in Murphy or Baldwin Laden games to be

919
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: able to utilize, and I'll give a stick credit he

920
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: has utilized those two despite last night, he has mostly

921
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: utilized those two in good ways when it comes to

922
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: using them Laden games. I think that that's best for

923
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: the Braves right now, you say you continue to go

924
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: with it, Steven. As we wrap up this edision of

925
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: the Hammer Territory podcast, one of the things discussed, and

926
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: of course, that's the weekend series headed to Pittsburgh, one

927
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: of the most beautiful ballparks in the Majors. There is

928
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: one simple task that I asked for the Braves to

929
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: get done, and it's a fancy way of saying that

930
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: they need to win the series. This Braves team must

931
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: be at five hundred or better by Sunday, no other

932
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: way to say it. They're going into an opportunity where

933
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: they clearly are the better team. I believe that they're

934
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: going to be able to miss Paul Skins in this

935
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: series as well. I know that the Pirates can still

936
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: have some pretty good pitching to throw at you, but

937
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: just in general, this Braves team needs to win this

938
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: series and be at five hundred or better by Sunday.

939
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: That's just absolutely what needs to occur.

940
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Pirates are are having a rough year. They

941
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: just fired their manager today and I was reading some

942
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: of the stuff that came out, and pretty much everybody

943
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: was stunned that the GM wasn't fired along with the manager.

944
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: Everybody kind of expected both guys to be fired. One

945
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: of them got fired, the other one stayed. So that

946
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: kind of tells you how you know how their season's going.

947
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: They're twelve and twenty six. Paul Skins pitched on Tuesday,

948
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: so technically he could pitch on Sunday if they wanted

949
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: to skip a starter. But the Pirates didn't play today,

950
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: so for him to pitch on Sunday, they would have

951
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 2: to skip one of their starters to get him in.

952
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: They don't typically do that with young pitchers, so Sean's

953
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: point is correct. Most likely the Braves. The have not

954
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: announced any pitching for the series, probably because they fired

955
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: their manager today and they have other things to do so,

956
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: but they haven't announced any of the three pitchers for

957
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: the series yet. For the Braves, I think it's Elder

958
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: smith Schovers Chris Saale are the three this weekend for

959
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: the Braves. Listen. Normally I would say, come on here

960
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: and tell you I don't feel great about Bryce Elder

961
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: starting another major league game. But the kid has played,

962
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: he's pitched so well, it's not fair to me to

963
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: say that. And the Pirates are not good. They're a

964
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 2: terrible offensive team, They're a terrible team in general. The

965
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: Braves should win two out of three. And you know,

966
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 2: I don't care how bad the team is. It's hard

967
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: to expect more than that. But the Braves should win

968
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: two out of three. Like Sean said, you win two

969
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: out of three, you're back to five hundred by Sunday.

970
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: That should be the expectation. Losing this series to the

971
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: Pirates would be awful. The Braves are substantially better than

972
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: the Pirates. Go win two out of three, get back

973
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: to five hundred. Come you know, the schedule still remains

974
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: pretty easy. I think it's Washington after Pittsburgh. So this

975
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: is this part of the schedule where the Braves can

976
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: make them hey and maybe even get I know this

977
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: is crazy. I know this is crazy talk. Maybe even

978
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: get above five hundred. I mean, could you imagine I can't.

979
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: I mean I can't, but could you imagine above five

980
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: hundred after starting zero to seven? That is technically possible

981
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: if they take care of business against a couple of

982
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 2: bad teams are about to play. So that's the goal.

983
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: When two out of three in Pittsburgh get back to

984
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: five hundred, you know you got Washington next, Get above

985
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: five hundred and then take it from there and hopefully

986
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 2: Strider's back. Acunya is almost back. You can really start

987
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: to rewrite the narrative of this season.

988
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: And it's not like you've seen an theyse scenarios here

989
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 1: recently where the Braves were about to be five hundred,

990
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: where Chris sail on the mound and he pitched very well,

991
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: and then you haven't seen that here.

992
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I can't do that.

993
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: You can't, you can't.

994
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: We can't end this show in a negative. The Braves

995
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 2: are gonna get back to five hundred this weekend.

996
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: The Braves will be above five hundred when Monday rolls around.

997
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: That's what I didn't say that. I said that get

998
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: back to five hundred two of three, the Braves are

999
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: that's what you're saying. You're saying, you're saying sleeping the Pirates.

1000
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: That's that's where we're at. The Braves are sweeping the

1001
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: pirates as long as long as no one snits the bed.

1002
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,080
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1007
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