WEBVTT - SYMHC Classics: Rabies 

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Saturday. Our episode on the Dick and Metal had

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<v Speaker 1>a brief mention of efforts to keep the UK free

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<v Speaker 1>of rabies, and we also just got an email from

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<v Speaker 1>listener Whitney on the subject of a mass rabies exposure

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<v Speaker 1>in the news, and we have been working on plans

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<v Speaker 1>for our trip to Morocco in November, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>country considered to be a high risk for dog rabies. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just thinking a lot about rabies right now, so

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like a good time to replay our May ninth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two episode on the history of rabies. Enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of iHeartRadio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Tracy V.

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson and I'm Holly Frye. Foxes are one of many

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<v Speaker 1>wild animals that share cities and other places with human beings,

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<v Speaker 1>and in April, one of them made headlines after biting

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<v Speaker 1>at least nine people around the US capital. When this

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<v Speaker 1>story crossed my Twitter feed, I became incredibly invested in

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<v Speaker 1>whether everybody who got bitten by this fox had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>their raby shots. Afterward, news articles were not telling me

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<v Speaker 1>the answer to this information some of them were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a specific reporter or a specific congress person, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, everybody, everybody needs to get the

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<v Speaker 1>raby shots because foxes can carry rabies. Rabies is virtually

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<v Speaker 1>always fatal once people develop symptoms, once anyone develops symptoms,

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<v Speaker 1>but today's rabies profile axis is almost one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>effective at preventing that from happening. It is, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>the most effective vaccine that we have in existence. So

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<v Speaker 1>then when news broke that yes, this fox did have rabies,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like just a big flashing, screaming sign in

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<v Speaker 1>my brain, like raby shots, raby shots, Please tell me

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<v Speaker 1>everyone got their rabies shots. Of course, then that made

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<v Speaker 1>me want to do a podcast on rabies and the

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine that prevents it, something that somehow I thought we

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<v Speaker 1>already had stuff on. We don't, or if we do,

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<v Speaker 1>I failed to find it. The vast majority of our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners live in places where rabies deaths and humans are

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<v Speaker 1>extremely rare. Some parts of the world are rabies free,

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<v Speaker 1>and here in the United States there were only five

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<v Speaker 1>human deaths from rabies and twenty twenty one that was

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<v Speaker 1>the highest number of annual rabies deaths in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States in a decade. There are also places, though, where

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<v Speaker 1>rabies is still endemic, and globally about fifty six thousand

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<v Speaker 1>people die from it every year. That is a not

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<v Speaker 1>a like. That's a small number compared to something like

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<v Speaker 1>the current pandemic, but they're fifty six thousand totally preventable deaths,

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<v Speaker 1>like we have right what we need to prevent this,

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<v Speaker 1>so I want to talk about that adds up though

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of animal experimentation in this episode and deaths. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Rabi's is caused by Rabi's lyssavirus, which probably originated in

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<v Speaker 1>Old World bats. This virus has existed on every continent

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<v Speaker 1>except Antarctica and Australia for millennia, and although Australia is

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<v Speaker 1>Raybi's free, it's home to a closely related virus called

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<v Speaker 1>bat Lissa virus. But in spite of the virus's connection

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<v Speaker 1>to bats, humanity's connection to Rabi's has mainly been through dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>That connection shows up in the first written reference we

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<v Speaker 1>have of rabies, that's in the Eshnuna code from roughly

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand BCE. Eshnuno was a city in what's now Iraq,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of its laws have survived on a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of broken tablets that were found at an archaeological site

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<v Speaker 1>near Baghdad. Here's one of the laws quote if a

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<v Speaker 1>dog is mad, and the authority have brought the fact

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<v Speaker 1>to the knowledge of its owner, if he does not

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<v Speaker 1>keep it in, and it bites a man and causes

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<v Speaker 1>his death, then the owner shall pay two thirds of

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<v Speaker 1>a mina of silver. If it bites a slave and

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<v Speaker 1>causes his death, he shall pay fifteen shekels of silver.

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<v Speaker 1>The first written reference to rabies in China is from

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<v Speaker 1>the Zuo tradition, sometimes called the Zoo Commentary. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a commentary on the Spring and Autumn Annals, which chronicles

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<v Speaker 1>a period of Chinese history stretching from seven twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>to four eighty one BC. One passage in the Tzuo

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<v Speaker 1>tradition describes people of the capital city of Sung chasing

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<v Speaker 1>a rabid dog. The dog ran into the home of

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<v Speaker 1>a minister named Huachen, and the people chased after it.

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<v Speaker 1>Quachen was afraid and fled the city. In about the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth century BCE, Aristotle wrote this in his History of Animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote dogs suffer from three diseases, es, quincy, and sore feet.

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<v Speaker 1>Rabies drives the animal mad, and any animal whatever, excepting man,

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<v Speaker 1>will take the disease if bitten by a dog so afflicted,

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<v Speaker 1>the disease is fatal to the dog itself and to

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<v Speaker 1>any animal it may bite. Man accepted. So this translation

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<v Speaker 1>makes it sound like Aristotle was saying that humans don't

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<v Speaker 1>get rabies, but it's also been interpreted as meaning that

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<v Speaker 1>people don't always develop rabies when bitten by a rabid dog,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is true, or that people don't always die

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<v Speaker 1>from the disease if they contract it, which is almost

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<v Speaker 1>never true. People have known that rabies was essentially always

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<v Speaker 1>fatal for thousands of years, though Roman court physicians Scribonius

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<v Speaker 1>largest described rabies as incurable in the first century CE.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to being lethal, rabies progresses in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that can be really terrifying. The exact symptoms can vary,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are two broad categories, both of which end

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<v Speaker 1>in coma and death. Paralytic rabies involves lethargy, weakness, and paralysis,

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<v Speaker 1>and furious rabies involves agitation, aggression, and hyperactivity. The word

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<v Speaker 1>rabies reflects this latter type that comes from the Latin

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<v Speaker 1>for two rage, which may have roots in a Sanskrit

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<v Speaker 1>word meaning to do violence. Lisavirus has a similar root.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes from a Greek word meaning frenzy or madness,

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<v Speaker 1>which was used to describe rabies as well as to

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<v Speaker 1>describe irrational rage. Rabi shows up a lot in popular culture,

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<v Speaker 1>and that goes back thousands of years as well, including

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<v Speaker 1>the use of rabies or rabid dogs as a metaphor

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<v Speaker 1>for being mad or uncontrollable. For example, in the Iliad,

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<v Speaker 1>which was written in about the eighth century BCE, Homer

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<v Speaker 1>describes Hector as a rabid dog. Rabies can also cause

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<v Speaker 1>paralysis and spasms in the throat that make it impossible

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<v Speaker 1>to swallow water. That's why it's also known as hydrophobia.

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<v Speaker 1>In the second century CE, Roman philosopher Celsus used the

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<v Speaker 1>word hydrophobia in his description of the disease. Celsus also

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<v Speaker 1>recognized that something was present in saliva that transmitted this illness,

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<v Speaker 1>and he recommended a range of techniques to draw this

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<v Speaker 1>substance out of wounds. Like the connection between Rabi's and

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<v Speaker 1>aggressive rage, the connection between rabies and hydrophobia made its

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<v Speaker 1>way into literature centuries ago. For example, in about the

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<v Speaker 1>year five hundred, Kayleius Aurelianus suggested that Homer's description of

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<v Speaker 1>Tantalus in the Odyssey might have been inspired by rabies,

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<v Speaker 1>since Tantalus is tormented by water that he cannot drink.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also possible that rabies influenced ancient Greek depictions of Cerberus,

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<v Speaker 1>the multi headed dog that guarded the underworld, and that

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<v Speaker 1>those depictions of a mad beast with poisoned frothing from

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<v Speaker 1>its jaws circled back to influence people's perceptions of rabies.

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<v Speaker 1>So through these and other written references, we know that

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<v Speaker 1>rabies had spread from wherever it originated, all through India, China,

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East, Greece, Rome, and Egypt by about fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years ago, but we don't really know how wide

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<v Speaker 1>spread the disease was in any of these places, or

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<v Speaker 1>how many deaths it caused among humans and other animals.

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<v Speaker 1>That starts to change in the medieval period, when people

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<v Speaker 1>started documenting large outbreaks of the disease within specific animals.

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<v Speaker 1>These accounts primarily focused on outbreaks among dogs and other canids,

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<v Speaker 1>including wolves and foxes. For example, an outbreak of wolf

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<v Speaker 1>raybies struck Franconia in twelve seventy one. A massive outbreak

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<v Speaker 1>among red foxes spread over parts of Europe between fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy one and fifteen eighty one, leading people to try

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<v Speaker 1>to stop the disease by culling them. Sometimes these outbreaks

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<v Speaker 1>could spread to other animals, including infecting people when they

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<v Speaker 1>were bitten. At this point, we haven't mentioned rabies in

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<v Speaker 1>the Americas, and that's because while rabies existed in the

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<v Speaker 1>Americas through all this, rabid dogs probably did not, based

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<v Speaker 1>on genetic studies of the virus itself. Before European colonization,

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<v Speaker 1>rabies in the America's primarily infected bats and skunks. There's

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<v Speaker 1>some evidence that indigenous peoples in ancient Central and South

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<v Speaker 1>America regarded both bat bites and snake bites as potentially

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous and treated bat bites with washing and cauterization with

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<v Speaker 1>hot coals to try to prevent disease. Spanish colonists were

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<v Speaker 1>reported being bitten by bats in the early fifteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fifteen fourteen, Fernandez de Oviedo wrote about several

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers dying after being bitten by vampire bats. Dog rabies

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<v Speaker 1>is one of many diseases that Europeans introduced to the Americas,

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<v Speaker 1>and after that introduction it spread to other animals and

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<v Speaker 1>became far more likely to infect people, but that process

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<v Speaker 1>did not happen nearly as quickly with rabies as it

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<v Speaker 1>did with diseases like smallpox. Rabies typically has an incubation

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<v Speaker 1>period of roughly three to eight weeks, although it can

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<v Speaker 1>occasionally be much longer. Once symptoms appear, rabies is virtually

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<v Speaker 1>always fatal within about ten days. When Europeans first started

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<v Speaker 1>sailing to the Americas, the voyage often took more than

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<v Speaker 1>two months, so any dogs or other animals that had

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<v Speaker 1>been infected before setting sail usually developed symptoms and died

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<v Speaker 1>or were killed while still at sea. So that meant

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<v Speaker 1>introducing dog rabies to the Americas required a voyage that

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<v Speaker 1>was short enough for infected dogs to survive. It also

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<v Speaker 1>required a large enough population of dogs and other mammals

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<v Speaker 1>within a colony for the disease to keep circulating that

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<v Speaker 1>had been introduced. The first recorded outbreak of dog rabies

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<v Speaker 1>in the Americas was reported in Mexico City in seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>oh nine, and by the end of the eighteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>dog rabies was widespread in most of the places in

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<v Speaker 1>the Americas that Europeans had colonized. This in turn spread

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<v Speaker 1>the disease to the continent's native animals, with some of

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<v Speaker 1>those exposures leading to new strains of the virus that

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<v Speaker 1>were adapted to specific species. We'll talk about how a

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine was developed to prevent rabies after a sponsor break.

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<v Speaker 1>By the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, outbreaks of rabies were

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<v Speaker 1>spread across a lot of the world, in domesticated dogs

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<v Speaker 1>and in wild animals. In North America, rabies became so

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<v Speaker 1>widespread in skunks that they were nicknamed phobe Cats like

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<v Speaker 1>hydrophobe and phobe hens were advertised as a way for

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<v Speaker 1>cowboys to avoid being bitten by them in their sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and eighteen oh three, an outbreak among wild foxes in

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<v Speaker 1>France spread to dogs, pigs, and people. Bites from rabid

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<v Speaker 1>wolves tended to be particularly lethal, in part because attacking

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<v Speaker 1>wolves often bit people's faces or necks, meaning the virus

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<v Speaker 1>was way closer to their brain, while rabid dogs usually

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<v Speaker 1>bit people's hands or arms. There was no cure for

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<v Speaker 1>rabies and no way to tell whether a person would

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<v Speaker 1>develop it after being bitten, and estimates of how many

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<v Speaker 1>people developed rabies after a bite stretch all the way

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<v Speaker 1>from five percent to fifty percent. Some of this is

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<v Speaker 1>just because of imprecise record keeping, but it's also connected

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<v Speaker 1>to how people responded to the disease. In many places,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a widespread assumption that any animal that bit

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<v Speaker 1>had rabies, and during outbreaks, people tended to hunt down

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<v Speaker 1>and kill animals that they thought might be spreading disease.

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<v Speaker 1>So a dog that bit someone in the midst of

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<v Speaker 1>all of this might be rabid, or it might just

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<v Speaker 1>be scared and cornered and trying to defend itself. Around

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<v Speaker 1>the world, people tried various herbs and medical preparations to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent or cure rabies, and because it was so lethal,

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<v Speaker 1>many of these also relied on the idea of divine intervention.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, Hubertus, also called Saint Hubert, is the patron

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<v Speaker 1>saint of hunting, and one of his reported miracles involved

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<v Speaker 1>curing somebody who had been bitten by a rabid dog.

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<v Speaker 1>So in much of Europe, people used a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>iron called Saint Hubert's key to cauterize bite wounds. As

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<v Speaker 1>part of this treatment, a priest would also make a

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<v Speaker 1>shallow cut over a person's forehead, place a black bandage

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<v Speaker 1>over that, and the person wore that bandage for nine days.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people even carried one of these keys around with

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<v Speaker 1>them for protection. Long before the development of the germ

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<v Speaker 1>theory of disease, people recognized that when someone was bitten

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<v Speaker 1>by a rabid animal, something in the animal's saliva was

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<v Speaker 1>going into the wound and potentially causing rabies. So some

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<v Speaker 1>of the other treatments for bites involved washing the wound,

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<v Speaker 1>applying caustic chemicals to it, or cauterizing it, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was with a Saint Hubertus's key or with some other implement.

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<v Speaker 1>If these treatments were done immediately after a person was bitten,

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<v Speaker 1>they may have helped reduce the chance of developing rabies

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<v Speaker 1>by washing away the animals infected saliva. Thoroughly washing the

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<v Speaker 1>wound is still step one in rabies prevention today, but

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<v Speaker 1>none of this was enough to totally prevent the chance

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<v Speaker 1>of developing the fatal disease. People also tried to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>rabies by reducing the numbers of animals that could carry

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<v Speaker 1>it and transmit it to humans and to other animals.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, in eighteen sixty seven, the UK passed the

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<v Speaker 1>Metropolitan Streets Act. Among other things, this act empowered police

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<v Speaker 1>to collect and muzzle stray dogs, are dogs that were

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<v Speaker 1>determined to be dangerous. This reportedly led to a drop

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<v Speaker 1>in human cases of rabies in British cities. Also in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, researchers were learning about rabies

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<v Speaker 1>and working on ways to prevent it spread. During the

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<v Speaker 1>earlier part of this time, researchers didn't yet know what

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<v Speaker 1>a virus was. But trying to talk around that got

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<v Speaker 1>really clunky. So we are still going to call it

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<v Speaker 1>a virus in our discussion today. Yeah, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of incredibly stilted sentences before I was like, we're

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<v Speaker 1>just calling it a virus, regardless of whether that individual

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<v Speaker 1>researcher knew what a virus was. So in seventeen sixty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Italian anatomist and pathologist John MORGANI observed that rabies traveled

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<v Speaker 1>via the nerves rather than traveling through the bloodstream. He

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<v Speaker 1>made this connection because some patients reported a feeling of

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<v Speaker 1>pins and needles or other neurological disturbances around the site

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<v Speaker 1>of their original bite wound. MORGANNYU was correct. Once it

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<v Speaker 1>enters the body. The rabies virus moves along the nerves

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<v Speaker 1>until it gets to the brain and the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the central nervous system. After it gets to the brain,

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<v Speaker 1>the rabies virus makes its way to the salivary glands,

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<v Speaker 1>where it can cause excessive salivation. And although eighteenth century

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<v Speaker 1>researchers didn't quite have that part figured out, they did

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<v Speaker 1>know that the disease was spread through saliva. In seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety three, Scottish surgeon John Hunter speculated that it would

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<v Speaker 1>be possible to use a lancet to intentionally introduce an

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<v Speaker 1>infected animal saliva into another animal, but it's not clear

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<v Speaker 1>whether he tried this in practice. We also don't know

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<v Speaker 1>whether German naturalist George Gottfried Zinka was familiar with Hunter's work,

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<v Speaker 1>but in eighteen oh four he brushed saliva from a

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<v Speaker 1>rabbit dog onto a cut he had made in the

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<v Speaker 1>leg of a health the dog. This previously healthy dog

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<v Speaker 1>contracted rabies. He did the same thing with other healthy mammals,

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrating that it was possible for the bite of an

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<v Speaker 1>infected dog to infect animals of other species. In eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, French neurophysiologist Francois Magendi reported that he had

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<v Speaker 1>infected a previously healthy dog with saliva from a person

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<v Speaker 1>who had contracted rabies. Victor Gaultier was a professor at

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<v Speaker 1>the National Veterinary School in Lyon, France, and he started

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<v Speaker 1>experimenting with rabies in eighteen seventy nine. He found that

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<v Speaker 1>it was possible to transmit rabies from a dog to

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<v Speaker 1>a rabbit, and then from that rabbit to another rabbit.

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<v Speaker 1>Rabbits were smaller and easier to keep than dogs, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were less dangerous research subjects than rabbit dogs were.

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<v Speaker 1>Gaultier also found that the rabbits had a shorter incubation

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<v Speaker 1>period of about eighteen days rather than a month or

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<v Speaker 1>more that you might see in a dog. Gualtier did

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<v Speaker 1>various experiments with infected animal's saliva, attempting to see whether

0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.600
<v Speaker 1>he could find some way of using this infectious material

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<v Speaker 1>to prevent rabies. In eighteen eighty one, he injected rabies

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<v Speaker 1>virus into the jugular veins of sheep and they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>develop rabies, And then when he exposed one of them

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<v Speaker 1>to saliva from a rabid dog later on, it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like it was immune to the disease. French chemist and

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<v Speaker 1>microbiologist Louis Pasteur started working on rabies at about this

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<v Speaker 1>same time, and he was inspired by Gautier's success. Pastor

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<v Speaker 1>already had an extensive background in this kind of work.

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<v Speaker 1>In the eighteen fifties, he had studied yeast and alcohol fermentation,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as the ability for microorganisms to contaminate fermenting beverages.

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<v Speaker 1>This had contributed to both the germ theory of disease

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<v Speaker 1>and the development of pasteurization. In the eighteen sixties, he

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<v Speaker 1>had identified a microorganism that was devastating the French silk

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<v Speaker 1>in day, and in the eighteen seventies he studied animal

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<v Speaker 1>diseases like anthrax and chicken cholera, including developing an anthrax vaccine.

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<v Speaker 1>While Pasteur had lots of experience in this kind of research,

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<v Speaker 1>he had pretty much no experience in medicine or the

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<v Speaker 1>clinical treatment of patience, so he relied on other people

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<v Speaker 1>for this knowledge, including French physician and bacteriologist Emil Roux.

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<v Speaker 1>A whole team of other scientists and doctors were involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this work as well, including Chiles Chamberlain, Emil Duclaux,

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<v Speaker 1>Luis Jullier, and Joseph Granche. This is definitely not a

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<v Speaker 1>solo effort, and Pasteur was not always excited about crediting

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<v Speaker 1>other people for their involvement in it. There are even

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<v Speaker 1>some historians who have accused him of stealing other people's ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>Much of Pastor's previous work had involved culturing bacteria and

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<v Speaker 1>working from those cultures, and he started out trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do the same thing with Rabi's. Since Rabi's is caused

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<v Speaker 1>by a virus rather than a bacterium, Pastor's efforts to

0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:10.000
<v Speaker 1>replicate his earlier process failed. He started working directly with

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<v Speaker 1>the saliva of infected animals and then moved on to

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<v Speaker 1>working with central nervous system matter. He found that if

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<v Speaker 1>he exposed a healthy rabbit to rabies, it developed rabies.

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<v Speaker 1>Then if he used that rabbit's central nervous system matter

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<v Speaker 1>to expose another rabbit, that second rabbit also developed rabies,

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<v Speaker 1>and the second rabbit's infection seemed to be more virulent

0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:36.040
<v Speaker 1>than the first. If he did this a third time,

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<v Speaker 1>the third rabbit's infection was also more virulent than the

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<v Speaker 1>seconds had been. He continued this serial passage of the

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<v Speaker 1>virus from rabbit to rabbit until he had a strain

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<v Speaker 1>of it that he described as fixed. It was consistent

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<v Speaker 1>and how virulent it was, and it had an incubation

0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.600
<v Speaker 1>period that was set at six or seven days. From there,

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<v Speaker 1>mastor Air dried the spinal cords of rabbits that had

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<v Speaker 1>died of that highly virulent fixed strain. The longer they dried,

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<v Speaker 1>the weaker the virus became. That's a process called attenuation.

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<v Speaker 1>When he exposed other animals to a small amount of

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<v Speaker 1>this attenuated virus, they seemed to develop a resistance to

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<v Speaker 1>rabies rather than becoming ill. From there, Pastors started to

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<v Speaker 1>wonder whether it was possible to make an animal more

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<v Speaker 1>resistant to rabies after it had already been bitten, preventing

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<v Speaker 1>it from developing the disease. Having successfully tested out this

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<v Speaker 1>idea in dogs, he tried it on two people, but

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't publish on either of these attempts, so they

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<v Speaker 1>were not known about until much later. One of these

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<v Speaker 1>was a man who had been bitten by a dog,

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<v Speaker 1>and while this man survived, it's also likely that he

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<v Speaker 1>had not actually been exposed to rabies. The other was

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<v Speaker 1>an eleven year old girl who had been bitten in

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<v Speaker 1>the face by a puppy, and she had already started

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<v Speaker 1>developing rabies symptoms. She died the day after she was

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<v Speaker 1>given the treatment. On July fourth, eighteen eighty five, nine

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<v Speaker 1>year old Joseph Meister was repeatedly bitten by a dog

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<v Speaker 1>in Alces. The dog was believed to be rabid, and

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<v Speaker 1>two days later the child was brought to Pest for help.

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<v Speaker 1>Emil rou had been heavily involved in Pester's research up

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<v Speaker 1>to this point, and he refused to be involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the boy's treatment because of ethical concerns. Pastor expressed some

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<v Speaker 1>reluctance as well, but Joseph Groanche and Alfred Vaupien of

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<v Speaker 1>the Academy de Medcent encouraged him to try, with Granche

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<v Speaker 1>administering the treatment since Pastor was not a doctor, Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>was given a series of inoculations over the span of

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<v Speaker 1>ten days, starting with a very weak preparation and working

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<v Speaker 1>up through ones that were less and less attenuated. Three

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<v Speaker 1>months later, he had no sign of rabies. Another attempt

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<v Speaker 1>was started with another patient shortly after Joseph Meister was

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<v Speaker 1>declared to be in the clear. That was Jean Baptiste Jupelee,

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<v Speaker 1>a fourteen year old shepherd who had been mauled while

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<v Speaker 1>saving a group of younger boys from a dog. Pastor

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<v Speaker 1>reported his results to the French Academy of Science on

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<v Speaker 1>October twenty sixth, eighteen eighty five, while Jupeel's treatment was

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<v Speaker 1>still ongoing. Told about his success with Joseph Meister and

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he had successfully inoculated fifty dogs against

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<v Speaker 1>rabies before trying this process on a human. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk more about what happened with all of this

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<v Speaker 1>after we paused for a quick sponsor break. As a

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<v Speaker 1>word of Pastor's success at preventing rabies started to spread,

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 1>people started flocking to him for treatment. By the start

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<v Speaker 1>of eighteen eighty six, he had treated at least three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty people. They came from all over Europe

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<v Speaker 1>and from the United States. In early December of eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five, a dog bit at least seven other dogs

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<v Speaker 1>and six children in Newark, New Jersey. Word of Pastor's

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:13.080
<v Speaker 1>work had made it to the US, and a local

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<v Speaker 1>doctor published an appeal for funds to send the boys

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<v Speaker 1>to Paris for treatment. Four of the boys were sent

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<v Speaker 1>to Paris by steamer. The other two were determined to

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<v Speaker 1>not have sufficient injuries to need treatment. American news coverage

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.040
<v Speaker 1>of these boys tripped to Paris and then their return

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to the United States turned rabies vaccine into just a

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 1>media sensation, and three of the boys were displayed at

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<v Speaker 1>the Globe Museum in the Bowery in New York after

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 1>they all got home. Not everyone agreed with what Pasture

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 1>and his team were doing. Anti vivisectionists objected to the

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:54.680
<v Speaker 1>use of animals in this research, and as we've said,

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<v Speaker 1>not everyone who is bitten by a rabid animal contracts rabies,

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<v Speaker 1>and not every animal who bite someone is rabbid. Since

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<v Speaker 1>there was still not a test for rabies, determining whether

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<v Speaker 1>an animal had it usually involved just waiting to see

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<v Speaker 1>if it died, but that wasn't really possible if it

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<v Speaker 1>had already been killed, or if it just couldn't be found.

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<v Speaker 1>You could also expose a healthy animal to the brain

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.439
<v Speaker 1>or saliva of an animal who had bitten someone, but

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<v Speaker 1>by the time the healthy animal showed any symptoms, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just likely to be too late for the human patient.

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<v Speaker 1>So critics made the point that Pasteur was potentially exposing

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<v Speaker 1>people to rabies for no reason, and that his inoculation

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<v Speaker 1>might cause somebody who had been bitten by a non

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<v Speaker 1>rabid dog to then develop rabies because of their treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>Critics also noted that some of Pasteur's patients did die.

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<v Speaker 1>By November of eighteen eighty six, seventeen hundred patients had

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<v Speaker 1>received rabies injections and ten of them had died. The uncertainty,

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<v Speaker 1>combined with the death to spark a huge amount of

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<v Speaker 1>debate within the medical community about whether what Pasteur was

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<v Speaker 1>doing was ethical or even medically necessary. The Academy de

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Mensa held a meeting on the subject on January eleventh,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty seven. Although Pastor's critics were vocal, his supporters,

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:23.119
<v Speaker 1>led by doctor Joseph Gronchet, successfully defended his work. The

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Institute Pasteur was established on June fourth, eighteen eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and it opened on November fourteenth of that year. It

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<v Speaker 1>focused on disease research and on providing rabies vaccine. By

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen ninety eight, more than twenty thousand people had been

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<v Speaker 1>treated at the Pasteur Institute after a possible rabies exposure,

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<v Speaker 1>and only ninety six of them had died, or less

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<v Speaker 1>than half of a percent of patients. To be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot about this early version of the

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine that was inherently unsafe. It was basically made from

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<v Speaker 1>animal brain or spinal cordtish. There could for sure be complications,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was still a dramatic improvement over an untreatable

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 1>fatal disease. Discoveries about the rabies virus continued after this point.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen oh three, Italian pathologist Aldecci Negri discovered round

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<v Speaker 1>and oval regions in the brains of animals that had

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<v Speaker 1>died of rabies, which he called Negri bodies. At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>he thought they were some kind of parasite, but they

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>actually arise as part of the reproductive cycle of the virus.

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<v Speaker 1>This paved the way for the first rabies tests. While

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<v Speaker 1>there are newer methods for detecting rabies in brain matter today,

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<v Speaker 1>negribodies are still sometimes used when those methods are not available.

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<v Speaker 1>The most reliable tests do still involve examining an animal's brain,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why living animals have to be euthanized to

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<v Speaker 1>be tested for rabies. Refinements in the vaccine were also

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>in the works. Pastors' methods didn't always produce a consistently

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:05.719
<v Speaker 1>potent vaccine, and if it was too potent, it could

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<v Speaker 1>cause somebody to contract rabies in the early twentieth century,

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>researchers started using phenol to kill the virus rather than

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>attenuating it through air drying. Viruses were cultured in tissues

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen thirty six, which led to tissue cultured vaccines

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>rather than using brain matter to make them. Today's rabies

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 1>vaccines are mostly cultured in human cells or in chick

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:36.679
<v Speaker 1>embryos or some other cellular matter. Although some of Pastor's

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>colleagues speculated about whether it would be possible to mass

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>vaccinate dogs or other animals and lower the spread of

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>rabies to people, serious efforts to do that didn't start

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<v Speaker 1>until decades later, but efforts like that have led to

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<v Speaker 1>the successful eradication of rabies in some parts of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>There are too many rabies free countries today for us

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<v Speaker 1>to try to name them all. They include many islands,

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<v Speaker 1>including many Caribbean islands, the Canary Islands, the Falkland Islands,

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the Galapagos Islands, the UK, Iceland, Japan, and New Zealand.

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Several nations in continental Europe are also considered rabies free,

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>including much of Western Europe. We should note, though, that

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 1>rabies free often means rabies free in terrestrial animals. There

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>can still be rabies or other lissaviruses in bats, specifically,

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>so even if you are somewhere that is considered rabies free,

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>being bitten by a bat still warrants medical attention. Just

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>in general. Don't touch bats with your bare hands. You

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>don't need to be afraid of bats. They're generally pretty

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>shy and they're not gonna mess with you if you

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 1>don't mess with them. But like, don't go grab one

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 1>with your hand, which is so hard because they're so cute.

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Not for me because I see one. Like if I

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>see a bat somewhere that I don't expect to see

0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>a bat, I'm like, that bat is definitely a problem.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I Am not going anywhere near it. I will tell

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>a bat story in our behind the scenes. Ok. As

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 1>we said at the top of the show, Rabies is

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>still endemic in some parts of the world, including parts

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>of Asia and Africa. About forty percent of human rabies

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>deaths occur each year in India, with the vast majority

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>of those exposures coming from dogs, and some serious outbreaks

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:27.959
<v Speaker 1>among wild animals started long after the rabies vaccine was developed.

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>For example, rabies was identified in North American raccoons in

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty six, and there is an ongoing epidemic of

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 1>rabies among raccoons all along the East Coast. There are

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 1>efforts to get these and other outbreaks in wild animals

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 1>under control, using things like oral rabies vaccine baits. Yeah,

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>there are also mass vaccination campaigns, a lot of work

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 1>on this. A lot of the deaths that occur around

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>the world happen in children who'd like just wanted to

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 1>pet a dog and got bitten, so it is very sad.

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 1>It's also possible for one animal to spark a huge

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>exposure scenario, even in places where rabies is relatively well controlled.

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>For example, on October fifth, nineteen ninety four, a family

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>bought a kitten from a pet store in New Hampshire,

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and then about three weeks later, this kitten developed seizures

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>and died. After its death, it was determined to have

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>had rabies. This kitten had been examined by a veterinarian

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and had a certificate of health before it was sold,

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>but the pet store didn't have clear records of when

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>animals had arrived there or been sold, so in the end,

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>six hundred and sixty five people received post exposure prophylaxis

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>or PEP for rabies. These were people who had come

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>into contact with that kitten, or who had bought other

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>animals that had probably had contact with the kitten at

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the store, or people who had contact with those animals,

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>people who worked at the store, people who visited the

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 1>store and handled the animals. Really just on and on.

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>The probable initial source for this whole thing was a

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 1>raccoon that may have come into contact with three feral

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 1>kittens that were then captured and sold at the store.

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 1>As a side note, you may have heard that Raby's

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>prophylaxis is a horrifying series of incredibly painful shots directly

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>into the stomach with a gigantic and terrifying needle. It

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>is not. Older versions of Raby's PEP did involve a

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 1>long series of fourteen to twenty one shots, usually given

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>in the abdomen, but that's just because the abdomen offered

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot more surface area to work with, not because

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 1>the injections went into the stomach through a huge needle. Still,

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean to be clear, that is a lot of

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>shots into a tender area, and the vaccine that was

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>in use at the time could have a range of

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>unpleasant side effects. Yeah, I would not want to get

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 1>fourteen to twenty one shots all around my abdominati think

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>like it was not a gigantically long needle going into

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>people's actual stomachs. It's also not what is in use today.

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>The current recommendation is that a person gets one dose

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 1>of human rabies immune globulin and one dose of rabies

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>vaccine shortly after the bite. The immune globulin is typically

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 1>injected near the bite location, and then the vaccine typically

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>goes into the deltoid region of the arm, where lots

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 1>of other vaccines go. Then the person gets three more

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>doses of vaccine that are spread out in the days

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 1>that follow, again as injections into the shoulder area. Also

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>using a vaccine that is like cultured in tissues and

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot safer than what was being used in the past.

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>This process can be a little bit different for children,

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>or if a person is immuno compromised, or if a

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>person has been previously vaccinated for rabies. That's something that's

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>typically only done based on a person's risk for being

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>exposed to rabies. As another side note, we have been

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:08.280
<v Speaker 1>really really focused on bites here because the overwhelming majority

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:12.879
<v Speaker 1>of rabies exposures come from bites or possibly scratches. There

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:15.359
<v Speaker 1>are some other ways to contract the disease, but they're

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>extraordinarily rare, like through the eyes or mucous membranes. If

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:22.959
<v Speaker 1>someone is exposed to aerosolized rabies virus in some way,

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:27.800
<v Speaker 1>or because rabies can closely resemble various types of encephalitis,

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:31.399
<v Speaker 1>it is sometimes missed as a diagnosis when doctors don't

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 1>know that the person was bitten by an animal. This

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 1>has led to an extremely small number of rabies transmissions

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:43.400
<v Speaker 1>through organ transplants, although the risk of this is extremely remote.

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>After their first report of it happening, many organ procurement

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 1>organizations started including screening questions to try to rule out

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>this possibility. Circling back around to rabies in pop culture,

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 1>this was actually a plot line on the TV show Scrubs.

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Its sounds truly horrifying, but also like the disease process

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 1>that rabies causes, like in the umbrella of encephalitis, and

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 1>if a doctor doesn't know that a person was bitten

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 1>by an animal or picked up a bat or whatever,

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 1>like it's most doctors have never seen a case of

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>rabies in their career, and it's not the thing that

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 1>first comes to mind. In two thousand and four, fifteen

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>year old Gena Geezy and her medical team made headlines

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>after she became the first person known to survive rabies

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>after starting to develop symptoms. She had picked up and

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 1>been bitten by a bat, and although her wound was

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 1>cleaned with hydrogen peroxide, she wasn't taken in for further treatment.

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 1>She started developing symptoms about a month later, and then,

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 1>about six days into her illness, reported having been bitten

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:49.720
<v Speaker 1>by the bat. Doctors placed Geezy in a medically induced

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 1>coma and gave her anti viral drugs and other treatments.

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>These treatments continued until tests suggested that her body was

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>fighting off the virus, and at that point she was

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>brought up of the coma. She survived this experience, and

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.280
<v Speaker 1>news outlets have continued to report on her life into

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the year twenty twenty one. At the time, this seemed

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 1>like a hopeful sign that what came to be known

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 1>as the Milwaukee Protocol would make it possible to cure

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 1>people after they started showing symptoms of rabies, but efforts

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to replicate that success have been largely unsuccessful. One paper

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:28.360
<v Speaker 1>in the Journal of the Brazilian Society of Tropical Medicine

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 1>traced thirty eight published uses of the Milwaukee protocol, including

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>one use of a similar protocol called the Recifi protocol.

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Only eleven of those patients survived, with all but five

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 1>of them having moderate to severe complications afterward. This is

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.359
<v Speaker 1>certainly an improvement over a disease with an essentially one

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent fatality rate, but these numbers may be deceptively optimistic.

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Three of the people who were described as having survived

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 1>did make it through the most critical part of the illness,

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>but they still died. At least one of the patients

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 1>may not have actually had rabies, and there's been no

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>coordinated method for tracking when this protocol has or hasn't

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>been attempted. It's likely that anyone who tried it and

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>succeeded would publish their results, but it's also possible that

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:21.359
<v Speaker 1>people who tried it and failed have not yet. There

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 1>are some papers like Opinion Commentary written by teams of

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>doctors that are like this does not work and we

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 1>need to stop focusing our effort on it, and others

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that are a little bit more like this may need

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 1>some other refining before it could work. Aside from all that, though,

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>all the patients described in these publications spent at least

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:46.800
<v Speaker 1>a month in the hospital with extensive care throughout their stay,

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 1>so it's extremely unlikely that this protocol could really be

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 1>put into use in the places where human deaths from

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 1>rabies are the most prevalent. These places tend to be

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 1>rural and poor without a lot of health care infrastructure.

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Places where people don't have access to rabies profile axis

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 1>are likely to also be places where people don't have

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>access to a hospital that could support this kind of treatment. Also,

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 1>it's extremely clear at this point that coordinated programs of

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:23.280
<v Speaker 1>public education and dog vaccinations and sometimes vaccinations in particular

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 1>wild animals, can lower the number of human rabies deaths enormously,

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>and places that don't have the resources to support those

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>kinds of programs and initiatives are really likely not to

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:40.320
<v Speaker 1>have the resources to support hundreds or thousands of people

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 1>with long term hospital stays and medically induced comas. It's

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 1>like even if this worked, it would really be working

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 1>for the wealthiest countries in the world and not the

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:56.800
<v Speaker 1>places where treatment is most needed. So all of that said,

0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the global cost of rabies is roughly eight point six

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:04.400
<v Speaker 1>billion dollars per year, and more than fifteen million people

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 1>per year receive Raby's PEP. This protocol can be really expensive.

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.360
<v Speaker 1>In the United States, it can cost between twelve hundred

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and sixty five hundred dollars. Yeah, that's like one estimate

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that I can sew that I saw. I saw some

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 1>that were even higher than that. September twenty eighth of

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:23.879
<v Speaker 1>every year is World Raby's Day. That's also the anniversary

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>of the death of Louis Pasteur. Well, that's a basic

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 1>history of rabies, raybees. My hope is that in the

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>future will at least get to the point where the

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>places in the world that have lots of free roaming

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 1>dogs also have those dogs vaccinated, because that's really where

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:52.919
<v Speaker 1>like so much feeding back into the greater environment and

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 1>so much feeding into human cases of rabies, Like it's

0:39:55.960 --> 0:40:00.359
<v Speaker 1>all interconnected with the dogs. Yeah. I think we mention

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:03.240
<v Speaker 1>it at the top of our episode on the history

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:05.880
<v Speaker 1>of Veterinary Medicine that one of the vets at my

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 1>practice participates in a program where she goes to countries

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>where the dog population is not well vaccinated and tries

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 1>to just do as many vaccinations as they can in

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 1>a short period of time. Yeah, they had gone to Malawi,

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I think, and Malawi's target is like seventy percent of

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the dog population vaccinated, which would do a lot to

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>reduce the number of human deaths, but still would like

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:33.760
<v Speaker 1>there would still be a reservoir of circulating rabies among

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 1>dog populations. There are a lot of sad parts to that,

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:38.879
<v Speaker 1>but one of the saddest parts is like a lot

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of the people who die of rabies

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>or like just a kid that wanted to pet a dog. Yeah,

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:52.040
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