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Speaker 1: Coming up on this edition of The Booth Review. We

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Speaker 1: won finally.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, we're dusting up the heavyweight championship built.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is it Bobby or Bill and Fletch? How many

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Speaker 3: steps she got left?

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Speaker 4: You think, ooh about one and a.

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Speaker 1: Possible not as many as Philip Rivers. That's coming up

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Speaker 1: next on the Booth Review. Welcome into the latest edition

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Speaker 1: of the Booth Review. I'm Bram Weinstein with logan Paulson.

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Speaker 1: London has technical difficulties today, unfortunately not with us. We're

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Microsoft Surface Copilot plus PC. We

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Speaker 1: are in the Big Bear AI Command Center studio. What

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Speaker 1: do we blame it on the weather because it's like

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Speaker 1: freezer face off cold here, can't connect.

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Speaker 5: It is pretty fez your face off cold. It's also

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Speaker 5: the wind, show man. It's like temperature wise, not that cold,

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Speaker 5: but it's the wind. Like walking from the car, I

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Speaker 5: was like, man, it is uh, it's a little chili

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Speaker 5: and it was a little chilly up in New York.

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Speaker 1: Actually, so you know, we got all that snow and

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Speaker 1: then it stopped and then it was really really cold

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Speaker 1: up there. It was funny because we were like way

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Speaker 1: up you were in the booth with us yesterday instead

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Speaker 3: Thank god, I know, but.

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Speaker 1: Like it was actually warmer than I thought it was

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Speaker 3: It really wasn't that bad yet.

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Speaker 5: But it was funny, so like I had the same thought.

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, it's actually kind of nice up here.

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Speaker 5: I had a nice winter coat on and I didn't

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Speaker 5: put any of my you know, like my thermal stuff on,

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Speaker 5: and so then I had to go down and do

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Speaker 3: And when I got to the field it was cold

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was very cold, and like so again like

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Speaker 5: it was uh like I usually handled the cold really well,

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Speaker 5: don't need like a hat, gloves, hype of deal. But

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Speaker 5: I had gloves, hat on, a couple of layers on

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Speaker 5: it was like just cutting through whatever I had on.

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Speaker 5: So those guys, I mean, it might not look cold

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Speaker 5: on TV yesterday, but once I got on the sideline,

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Speaker 5: it was a different, different ball of wax.

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Speaker 3: For sure. They won. It's been a while. They did win.

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Speaker 1: It's been a while, So what does it mean to

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Speaker 1: you to end the losing streak?

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Speaker 3: I mean, shoot, man, like you know it was.

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Speaker 5: It's such an interesting dynamic talking about this when it

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Speaker 5: is kind of polarizing in a lot of ways. Like

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Speaker 5: there's this camp that says, oh, you know, they should

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Speaker 5: have tanked for the draft pick.

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Speaker 1: We can get into that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think we should. We should definitely talk

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Speaker 5: they need it. From morale, I'm definitely like maybe it's

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Speaker 5: the former player in me, Like I'm not a big

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Speaker 5: tank guy, you know, Like there was a period of

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Speaker 5: time like this week, actually, I think I'm going to

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Speaker 5: get the first pick overall, I just started doing my

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Speaker 5: draft stuff for the Ticket of the Draft podcast, which

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Speaker 5: I do with Jason, and you know, it seems like

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Speaker 5: Fernanda Mendoz is going to be the first pick overall.

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Speaker 5: And when the quarterback is the first pick, and there's

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Speaker 5: think there's any way they would have gotten to that

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Speaker 5: first pick. So for me, it's like you're going to

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Speaker 5: Potentially there's going to be a good football player in there.

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Speaker 5: And then obviously, like when you start looking at the

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Speaker 5: And I think we've talked about that a little bit too.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean here's a good point. Like the Giants

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Speaker 1: I always had some there's some issues with some benchings

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Speaker 1: that occurred. But you watch him yesterday and you watch

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Speaker 1: him in the game before, where he got benched at

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Speaker 1: the start against New England. And don't tell me that

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Speaker 1: this guy doesn't look like he's gonna be a menace

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Speaker 5: I mean, even like with our draft this last year,

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Speaker 5: I think if you understand schematically like what you're looking

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Speaker 5: more full time. Like people think it's the player, but

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Speaker 5: it's also the system. It's also the coaches, is also

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Speaker 3: But what you need I want.

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Speaker 1: To go back to the idea of tanking too, which

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Speaker 1: way to be organizationally, Like don't you want people here

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Speaker 1: like it matters to them. They may or may not

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Speaker 3: We don't need that.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think that that fits with the core

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and again, like I was a put a caveat

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Speaker 1: Interestingly, that's the Giants right now, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Which I think is probably good for them. It's gonna

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Speaker 5: for this last game, I would say, it looks like

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Speaker 5: and again, in a year where it's quarterback light like

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I think it's uh, but that's me talking at it

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Speaker 5: That's how you get back on you know, and infuse

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Speaker 5: the roster of talent. But to your point, I think

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Speaker 5: They've purported to be something a little bit different, which

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Speaker 5: it looks like we got big fletching here. Huh yeah,

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Speaker 3: Look at this guy. You're making an appearance.

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Speaker 2: What do you think I might have a future at

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Speaker 2: IT support?

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Speaker 3: Who is the tech support? Didn't you call it? You

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Speaker 4: I did it myself. I got a little you know,

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Speaker 3: So it was usually, it was usual the whole time,

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, listen, you know what that old control

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that worked for you.

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Speaker 2: I had to shut the whole system down and it

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Speaker 5: There you go. We're back at it. It's good to

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Speaker 5: have you here, buddy. We were just talking about tanking,

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Speaker 5: to tank or not to tank, and then how important

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Speaker 4: I don't know what you touched on.

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Speaker 2: But for for us, we at the guys on the

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Speaker 2: You cannot ever go into a game thinking trying to lose,

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Speaker 2: out there not playing as hard as you need to

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Speaker 2: we try to win every single game that we play,

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Speaker 2: So there's no tanking. That happens with the players and

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Speaker 2: the coaches, not the front offense.

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Speaker 4: However they want to have.

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Speaker 2: That, that's up to them and from and from a

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Speaker 5: And also I think there's us like an emotional confidence

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Speaker 5: that you get from this. Right Like you know, you're

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Speaker 5: eight games they lost, Like you got to get something

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Speaker 5: that gets you back on track, and you know, this

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Speaker 1: Winning changes everything. I literally, literally literally everything you know,

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Speaker 1: all of that changes. Winning for a locker room changes

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Speaker 1: Like for people like myself who do programs like this,

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Speaker 3: And it didn't happen this year.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think you changed that because you had

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Speaker 2: The you mentioned about the winning aspect of it, it's

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Speaker 4: That's not this is not the type of situation.

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Speaker 4: And I know it's the same ownership, but Josh, here,

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Speaker 2: I saw him yesterday after the after the victory, and

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Speaker 2: So there's no there's no tanking mentality that's taking place.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure some fans would be like, oh man, we

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Speaker 4: We could have possibly gotten that guy. This is not

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Speaker 2: One guy is not gonna change the fortunes unless you're

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Speaker 4: We already got our quarterback, but you know.

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Speaker 2: Another, it's gonna take multiple new additions to this roster

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Speaker 1: No, I think we also like in like the kind

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Speaker 1: front office, this coaching staff, they're in this together to

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Speaker 1: Like there are times where teams have groups that have

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Speaker 1: maybe it's kind of gone. It's either ebbed out to

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Speaker 1: those reasons as well, I think it's very important stay

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Speaker 1: I don't care that that had eleven pedalties and a

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's nice to be talking about a win,

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Speaker 5: right Fletch, Like, oh yeah, we've been in a dark

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Speaker 3: So nice to be talking about a win. I see

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, And I know, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it was I said this to brab Or. I know,

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Speaker 2: I think it was brab I don't know if it

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Speaker 2: was you as well. I love it when I said,

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Speaker 2: it's tough when you're losing a bunch of games to

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Speaker 3: More to go through it. Yeah, it's just a tough

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Speaker 4: Yeh.

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Speaker 1: Therapy sessions in here. All right, let's talk about some

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Speaker 1: of the moments in the game. The end of first

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Speaker 1: changed everything about it. Tressways punt do not under sell

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Speaker 2: Not at all, but I think we need to point

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Speaker 2: out on them doing the broadcast. Logan mentioned Vince Lombardi

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Speaker 4: I believe.

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Speaker 5: You said, you know, when you throw the ball, three

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Speaker 2: I might even be underestimate how many bad things can happen.

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Speaker 2: What you can have incompletion are sad, interception, fumble. It's

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Speaker 2: four things that can happen. Four bad things can happen

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Speaker 2: a booming punt, which like he was he that punt

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Speaker 2: That was a outstanding punp and coverage by was it

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Speaker 5: like logistically that's gonna work out, right, but you got

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Speaker 5: They got a pressure on first down, they got a

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Speaker 1: You know, there was going to be some openings for

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Speaker 1: This was right for this to happen. They named him

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Speaker 4: He blacked out during the pregame spread.

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Speaker 3: He tell you that the postgame and I asked him.

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Speaker 1: I go because he was pretty he was speaking in

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Speaker 3: To the team.

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Speaker 1: He goes, I don't know. I blacked out.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes you do, man, you're get in front of the guys,

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Speaker 5: just start saying all sorts of craziness. But I think,

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, like now that he can focus

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough for a rookie to to be asked

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Speaker 2: returner in itself, that's a big responsibility as a pun returner.

441
00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,040
Speaker 2: Number One thing, you got to catch that football and

442
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,879
Speaker 2: depending on I mean these punters, they can do some

443
00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,480
Speaker 2: tricky things with these football nowadays, whether it's having kind

444
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,000
Speaker 2: of a quirky twist on his spind the height, the

445
00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,960
Speaker 2: hang time, all the different things you're trying to judge.

446
00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,560
Speaker 4: They do our fair catches do I try to return it.

447
00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,920
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of different things that come into

448
00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:52,000
Speaker 2: play just from that standpoint. Then you add the thing

449
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,199
Speaker 2: that he deroded he was playing as a receiver and

450
00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,200
Speaker 2: asked to come in on a third down or play

451
00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,080
Speaker 2: a lot more than you know, you thought would have

452
00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,840
Speaker 2: been the role from him as at the beginning of

453
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,879
Speaker 2: the season. That's a lot on a young guy's played

454
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,639
Speaker 2: in as you mentioned, with the receiving corp being a

455
00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,000
Speaker 2: lot healthier, now I can just focus really on just

456
00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,719
Speaker 2: being a return guy. And I still he'll still study

457
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,679
Speaker 2: and be prepared to play a role as a receiver,

458
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,359
Speaker 2: but he knows he's not going to be one of

459
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,920
Speaker 2: those top three guys to start off in a ball game.

460
00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, first time since ninety four that Washington had two

461
00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 1: punt returns for a touchdown same season. Last person to

462
00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,600
Speaker 1: do it Brian Mitchell, greatest returner of all time. All Right,

463
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,639
Speaker 1: here's another one that really kind of stood out to me.

464
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 1: Lane has an up and down rookie season, but has

465
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,240
Speaker 1: huge moments that he's going to remember in big portions

466
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,160
Speaker 1: of wins that they've had. Bill Krosskey Merritt came out

467
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:53,160
Speaker 1: of the gate. He was a gangbusters playmaker, huge yardage

468
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,200
Speaker 1: part of this what was top five rush offense. Early

469
00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,119
Speaker 1: in the year he was had a reduced role. The

470
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 1: season was kind of going along yesterday Chris Rodriez unavailable

471
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 1: groin injury. You're taking on a team who gives up

472
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 1: the most yards per carry in the NFL, specifically on

473
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 1: the outside. This felt like there was an opening for

474
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 1: him to have a big bounce back game, first one

475
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,359
Speaker 1: in a while, and he did too. What did you

476
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 1: see from him yesterday?

477
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I think you know it's funny.

478
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 5: I went back and watched the film, watch all the

479
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,640
Speaker 5: runs last time we got back to the house, and

480
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 5: like there was some messy looks.

481
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:25,400
Speaker 4: Man.

482
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 3: They kind of played some.

483
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 5: Different difficult fronts to block versus runs they called they

484
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 5: did a little bit of like safety and nickel pressure

485
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 5: that made it tough to kind of get stuff targeted

486
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 5: in terms of safety or terms of receivers what they

487
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 5: had to do. And so I do think like the

488
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 5: offensive line was competitive and that the tight ends were competitive,

489
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 5: but there weren't It wasn't always clean, and so think

490
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 5: testament to build to kind of make sure you're hitting

491
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 5: in the right spot. Like even on his touchdown run,

492
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 5: like there's a little bit of a miscommunication between Beanish

493
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 5: and Chris Paul, but he does a good job pressing

494
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 5: it then cuts it back late and is able to

495
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 5: kind of still help those other blocks sync. So I

496
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Speaker 5: think he did a lot of things that stood out

497
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 5: to me as being very positive, even though the environment

498
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 5: that he was running the football into wasn't always the best.

499
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: So you know, I think we saw some of his

500
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 3: natural ability.

501
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 5: I thought he was a little bit more patient and again,

502
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 5: like I don't want to put lipstick on a pig here,

503
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 5: Like he did a great job, but obviously the New

504
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 5: York Giants have struggledtopp on the run all year, So there.

505
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 4: You go, logan out, don't do that, no.

506
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 5: Dude, Sorry, We're sorry, but I'm saying like, but so

507
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 5: even though like it was a little bit messy, he

508
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 5: did a good job. And I think there's a lot

509
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 5: of things to be excited about and in a performance

510
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 5: that you know, like like like we talked about in

511
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 5: the and the and the and the booth review or

512
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 5: and then the booth yesterday, Like, you're able to run

513
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 5: the ball more because you're protecting a lead. He was

514
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,239
Speaker 5: able to get more touches, We're able to get more

515
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 5: exposures to the run game, We're able to run the

516
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,880
Speaker 5: football to steal the win, and so I think all

517
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 5: those factors kind of coalesced the having a pretty solidate e.

518
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: This is only the third time all year they scored first.

519
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 1: Umber one crazy, this is the only This is the

520
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 1: first time they've had a double digit point lead since

521
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: the Chargers game, which was their last win before there

522
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 1: had It's been two months since they had a double

523
00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 1: digit lead and they.

524
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 3: Had Rare had scored first.

525
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: They've been playing from behind in every single game, and

526
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: it obviously made a difference for Bill.

527
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 2: I thought another thing that Bill did he ran with

528
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 2: more power than we had seen from him in the past.

529
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 2: You mentioned the patience, and we know he has the

530
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 2: explosiveness and the jump cut ability and the splee speed,

531
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 2: but he ran with some power that multiple on multiple

532
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: occasions that we quite frankly had not seen a lot

533
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: of that. And he he mentioned to us that he

534
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 2: wanted to add a lot of different He wants to

535
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 2: be kind of considered a back that can do it all,

536
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: not just a kind of an outside perimeter type back

537
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: and a speed type of back, scat back, so to speak,

538
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: but one back that can do it all. You can, Hey,

539
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 2: if you need tough yards between the tackles, he can

540
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 2: do that. If if you need an explosive play, you

541
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 2: can do that. So he mentioned he wanted to there's

542
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: some things that he wants to work on in the offseason.

543
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 2: But I was impressed with the power that he ran

544
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 2: with on a lot of those runs he was hitting it.

545
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 4: There was not any dancing that he was doing.

546
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: A couple of times during it was a stretch during

547
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: the season where he was dancing a little bit and

548
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 2: you started to see kind of some of his carriers

549
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: go to a sea Rod or McNicholas because they're like,

550
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 2: hey man, there's sometimes you just got to run it

551
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 2: up in there, and he did that yesterday.

552
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: Let me bring up another player that stood out. Ben

553
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: Sitt was got one of the biggest plays of the

554
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: game late great call. I thought too when they caught

555
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: him down the scene that wasn't a game felt like

556
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 1: it was going to be a game ceiling catch. I

557
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: don't think it was. It ended up being that way.

558
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: Sinate has really kind of grown into a role this

559
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: year where they're moving him. He's become an outstanding blocker.

560
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: But in light of the injury to zach Ertz, all

561
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're asking the question of is there

562
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: a future in that role for either him or Kolson Yankov.

563
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: What did you see so far in what was the

564
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: first game that we did not have Zach Ertz on

565
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: the field?

566
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, obviously that role that Zach had, I

567
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 5: don't think anybody kind of stepped in and filled it

568
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 5: quite honestly.

569
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: I think what was the team?

570
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Speaker 5: They were three for ten or eleven on third down

571
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 5: and that's a role that Zach's been really excellent at

572
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 5: this year so far, and obviously Ben and Colson didn't

573
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 5: get any targets in those stage situations. The one the

574
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 5: play that comes to mind is Terry McLaurin on the

575
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 5: slant on the third and three kind of to start

576
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 5: the game off. But I do feel like they're still

577
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 5: trying to figure out offensively how to replace Zach's production.

578
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 5: I think you see a nice catch from John Baits

579
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 5: up the seam off of play action. I think you

580
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 5: see Colston Yankoff again heavy personnel play action. They're trying

581
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 5: to stop the run in a four minute situation, does

582
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 5: a great job kind of slipping the safety on the seam. Like,

583
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 5: I think that's where you're going to see their targets,

584
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 5: which to me is like on first and second down

585
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 5: as opposed to you know, kind of the traditional zach

586
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 5: Ertz target menu, which is on third down and in

587
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 5: the red zone. So I think they're still kind of

588
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 5: exploring how best to replace Zach, and I think I

589
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 5: think that's something that's going to be really challenging for

590
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 5: the rest of the year because Zach. I don't think

591
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 5: people understand, you know, maybe lay people understand how good

592
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 5: Zach was in those moments, and so it's not like

593
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 5: you just give that to the second second round pick

594
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 5: from last year. You say, who is the best suited

595
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 5: to fill this? And so I kind of felt maybe

596
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 5: some of those touches went to Debo, some of those

597
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 5: touches went to Terry, and that's how they're kind offsetting it.

598
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 5: And again, I think you'll see more touches for Zach

599
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 5: and for Ben Yankoff and Bates and that first and

600
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 5: second down range on boots keepers in playpass kind of initially,

601
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 5: at least at least for their couple of weeks.

602
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think just the way the game plan kind

603
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 4: of was put together.

604
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: You saw there was a lot of eleven personnel groupings

605
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: where Ben was the tight end on the field, but

606
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: they put him in a backfield and they ran a

607
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 2: lot of two back runs so to speak, with him

608
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: serving as a full back or lead blocker, and he

609
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: did it.

610
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 4: I thought he did an excellent job. And I thought the.

611
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: Game plan where they had some split flow runs or

612
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 2: runs where he was the lead blocker, and it forced

613
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 2: the New York Giants to kind of have to to

614
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: fit the runs out of a two back set, and

615
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: a lot of times that's a different type of run

616
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: fit that that those second level defenders have to be

617
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: on the same same page because hey, if you don't,

618
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: you don't you fit a run correctly, you can get creased.

619
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: And so that game plan yesterday was a lot of

620
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: lining him up in the backfield. I haven't looked at

621
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: what Philadelphia is like in the run from a run

622
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: defensive standpoint. You know, are they gonna how are they

623
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: going to utilize him as a run block. I thought

624
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 2: he had had a lot of really good run blocks

625
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: and maybe there'll there will be some things where you know,

626
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: you flex him out a little bit. You're just trying

627
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: to trying to add to his his ability as a

628
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: pass catcher, and maybe you'll see a few more targets

629
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 2: for him against the Philadelphia Eagles, just once the once

630
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 2: Cliff and the offensive coaches do that game plan and say, Okay,

631
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: this may be a spot where we can get him,

632
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: you know, a couple of easy targets and you know,

633
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: get get some confidence and we can kind of loosen

634
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: some things up for Terry or or Deebo. I don't

635
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: Noah got injured in that ball and so I don't

636
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: know what his his status will be in this ball

637
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 2: game against the Eagle. So I think they'll add to

638
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: his to his targets in that ball in the coming

639
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 2: weeks as a receiver.

640
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 5: And again, to be fair, like those some of that

641
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 5: run stuff, that stuff you're not going to be comfortable

642
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 5: doing with Zach. So it does give you some more

643
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 5: flexibility having a physical body and a guy that has

644
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 5: that physical mindset in the in the run game.

645
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 3: Also, they didn't take a shot in the low red

646
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: with him where they.

647
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 5: Kind of run that you know, fake bubble screen that

648
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 5: they've run a couple of times in the low red,

649
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 5: and I think Ben did a good job being patient

650
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 5: with it and then working up the seam. Marcus catches

651
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 5: a little bit of pressure on that play and so

652
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 5: has to vacate. But like I think there's one that

653
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 5: maybe doesn't show up on the stat sheet where he's open.

654
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 5: The execution's good, the post did a good job taking

655
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 5: the third player out of there. There's a there's a

656
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 5: window there for him and we don't get to see

657
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 5: him maybe get a touchdown obviously in that moment, but

658
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 5: there there's a game plan touch in the kind of

659
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 5: fringe ren zone that I thought he did a good

660
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 5: job with. It's just the pressure kind of broke down

661
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 5: and Marcus had to go altsore with the football.

662
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: Those are the young guys. Want to talk about couple

663
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: veterans from yesterday as well, One Terry McLaurin, who had

664
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: one of the biggest plays of the game fifty one

665
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass. Again, thought that was a well timed

666
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: call when that occurred, very well executed. Obviously, They got

667
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: a shot to Terry down the field. You know, we've

668
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to talk to him. I know you've

669
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: talked to him to logan, but you know, sometimes the

670
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: injury report doesn't really tell the story of what's going on.

671
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: And what you just see next to his name is

672
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: quad injury. And he missed a lot of time, the

673
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: severity of which no one ever knows. Only the players

674
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: and the doctors and the coaches know. It was bad

675
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: and there was there was no like, I don't think

676
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: there was any feeling that he was going to get

677
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: shut down, but it was. It's not just the word

678
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: he has a strain, it was it was worse than that.

679
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't need to go into detail of

680
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: what it was. But he had to fight through this,

681
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: you know, and like this was a long recovery for him.

682
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: And this goes back to I think what we were

683
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: initially talking about. There's nobody here tanking like this guy

684
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: could have shut it down, Like the doctors could have

685
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: shut him down, the coach could shut hm down.

686
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: Anybody could shut him down. They did not.

687
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: He's come back in the last few weeks. He looks

688
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: like Terry McLaurin again. He is giving them the types

689
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: of plays that they need down the field that they

690
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: were missing earlier in the year when he and Noah

691
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: Brown and others were injured and they didn't have this explosiveness.

692
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: And that was just incredible to see yesterday. Well timed call,

693
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: well executed play, great touchdown for the team.

694
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, well timed. We were we were talking about that

695
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: was a first and twenty call, and I was like, Logan,

696
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: Mat It's it's hard to overcome first and twenty as

697
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 2: a play caller, you know. They they get him up

698
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: on a safety on that fifty one yard yard touchdown,

699
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: and I initially I thought it was a single coverage

700
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: because we didn't get a great replay, but just for

701
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: for him to have that window for Marcus to to

702
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: hit him with that with that thrown, I guess they

703
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: were talking about in practice they it didn't quite time

704
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: up the way they wanted to, didn't. It just wasn't,

705
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: you know, there, so to speak, the way they would

706
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: have loved to have that happen. But he saw the

707
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: cover two knew he was gonna get on safety. And

708
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: to have a long development play like that, you need

709
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: pass protection as well. So the pass pro was great

710
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: and Marcus he threw a great diamondone Terry after the catch.

711
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: The ability to break the couple of tackles too to

712
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: get into the end zone. Man, that's the that's the

713
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: thing that we missed when you have a guy like Terry,

714
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: the explosive plays, the run after the catch, the ability

715
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: to break tackles. And for the majority of the season

716
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: we were missing that element to this offense. And you know,

717
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a big deal for us not

718
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: to not to have him, but it's great to see

719
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: him feeling comfortable and feeling like himself.

720
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he had a bunch of big plays

721
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: in the game.

722
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 5: Obviously, the first third out of the game is the

723
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 5: thing that leads to three points obviously on the field goal,

724
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 5: because he makes that tough catch on the slant where

725
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 5: there's like two picks and on that play like man

726
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 5: like that, like as an offensive player and as a

727
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 5: guy that like likes offense, like that was about as

728
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 5: cool as you could possibly get. It's like a little

729
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 5: coo kind of quarter out takeoff by Terry and they're

730
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 5: in like kind of a cover six, so you know,

731
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 5: the flat player takes the out and the half players

732
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 5: kind of played over top of Terry hit on the

733
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 5: back side. They run all these digs to Deebo over

734
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 5: the course of the game. I think you can probably

735
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 5: visualize some of those catches that Debo had and the

736
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 5: quarters player cuts the dig which he's supposed to do,

737
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 5: and the quarter kind of falls off. But because Terry

738
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 5: did such a good job fighting for with like there's

739
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 5: literally nobody in the middle of the field. So like,

740
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 5: you love it when you see you get the perfect

741
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 5: call versus the perfect coverage with the perfect execution, and

742
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 5: the fact that you know Mariota and Terry are on

743
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 5: the same page is awesome. So that's where the call

744
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 5: gets you, right, the call gets you that excellent job

745
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 5: by Cliff, But like, like Fudge is saying, the ability

746
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 5: to finish that with Terry's physicality, the way he tracks

747
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 5: the football, I mean, it's something I think we've obviously.

748
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 5: You definitely feel it when he's not playing, you like

749
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 5: that lack of explosive playmaker is obvious in this offense.

750
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 5: So again, love the call, love the execution, love how

751
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 5: came together, and to watch it that way, I think

752
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 5: it's a testament to Terry for sure.

753
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: And defense is just gonna they're gonna cover you differently.

754
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: They're gonna defend you differently when you have a Terry

755
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: on the field healthy. And we saw there were games

756
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: where just we were so hamstrong from a from a

757
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: receiver Cord. I think the Dallas game comes to mind,

758
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: where maybe we had three receivers healthy in that ball game.

759
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: We had a lot of marvers. Three tight end sets

760
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: up in that uh in that ball club, I think

761
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: maybe even four tight ends that were kind of gonna

762
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: be we lean heavily on the tight ends. You're gonna

763
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: get defended totally different when you have guys on the

764
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: house side. And speaking of Cliff as a as a

765
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: play caller, he mentioned not being, you know, happy with

766
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: the way he called the game against the Minnesota Vikings.

767
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: I thought yesterday he called a really good game. You

768
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: mentioned that that that play right there or Terry really good,

769
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: uh game plan call right there? Much better job calling

770
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: plays and and getting us some points and manufacturing yards

771
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: as an offensive coordinator.

772
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: One other veteran that I think needs to be brought

773
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: up is Antonio Hamilton soon.

774
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: How about that guy?

775
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: So like they're really shorthanded. Marshaw Latimore's outre and this

776
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: is out now. Jonathan Jones is out rib injury, can't

777
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: play extraordinarily thin. This fortunately is not justin Jefferson Jordan

778
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: Edison running out there, but Wandale Robinson's having a fantastic year.

779
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: Darius Slayton's a true deep threat. This is and Dart

780
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: is not scared to throw the ball down the field

781
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: as he did a number of times. So they're gonna

782
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: be tested, and they tested this guy over and over.

783
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,239
Speaker 1: We found out after the game. Everybody found out that

784
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: this was pre planned and the team knew about this,

785
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: but it just happened that he was leaving town to

786
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 1: go watch his wife graduate from college. So he's going

787
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: to miss some time. This was the worst week on.

788
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: Earth, you know.

789
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: If ever for somebody who's a journeyman. Now he's not

790
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: even really practicing with the team for a couple of

791
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: days to get ready in a game he has to

792
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: play in.

793
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: And man, did he.

794
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: Show up yesterday. I mean, over and over and over

795
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: and over for them.

796
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: I think he showed up in a big way. I

797
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: mean it was awesome.

798
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, fletch, No, No, I was just I'm

799
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: looking at all the different teams that he's played for man,

800
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: you got played two years in Oakland, spent time at

801
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: the Giants, two seasons Kansasity Chiefs, three seas with Arizona Cardinals,

802
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons, now with US, and then d Q

803
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: mentioned when he when they signed him then maybe after

804
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: the after the at the preseason, he mentioned how, hey, man,

805
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: he let them know there's one date that I'm gonna

806
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: have to miss because of my wife graduating and she

807
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: she put her she put her a lot of stuff

808
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: on on home while I was playing playing bass. So

809
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 2: like he mentioned, hey, I need to be there, and

810
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: d Q at that time he's like, yeah, no problem, because.

811
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 4: I don't worry about it. Back then, you know, you.

812
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: Got a healthy Marshan Latimore, you got Trey Avins, you

813
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: got Mikey Savage Steel, you got no Binogaty, Like, I mean,

814
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: what's the likelihood will you know he's gonna be caught up.

815
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 4: In the practice, you know, on the active roster.

816
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: And fast forward to this week he's up and Thursday

817
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: practices are I mean, that's a that's a big.

818
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 4: Game planning day.

819
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: I don't know how they do it with this current group,

820
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: but I know for us it was a big like

821
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: third down day for us, Like you're really honing your

822
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: your third down defense on that day. So I mean

823
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: that's not a small deal that he had to miss

824
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: Thursday's practice.

825
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 5: And I mean really like it's him, but it's also

826
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 5: the entire secondary. Like you mentioned, you know Robinson and

827
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 5: I think you know, Noagh Bnogani in man coverge situations

828
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 5: kind of drew that matchup. There's times where they're trying

829
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 5: to motion him outside and.

830
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: He's one on one with Noah and again he's doing

831
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: a great job. Hamilton's doing a great job. And so

832
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: to see kind of this you know, land of I

833
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 3: don't know, misfit.

834
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 5: Toys, guys that have had their had you had unique

835
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 5: journeys to the NFL, unique journeys in the NFL, playing

836
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 5: so well against some guys that are you know, like

837
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 5: Robinson is going to make a lot of money this offseason, right,

838
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 5: And to see you know, Mikey with the interception, a

839
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 5: guy that started inside playing outside, I think that was

840
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 5: pretty cool to see. And again Hamilton's kind of the

841
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 5: poster for that, but I think it speaks really to

842
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 5: the entire group. But how well that group played on

843
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 5: the day and again, they weren't perfect. I'm not saying

844
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 5: that they were, but for the all the PBUs that

845
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 5: Hamilton had and big moments and Manda man coverage isolated

846
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 5: routes against Darius Slayton, who signed a big contract this offseason,

847
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 5: Like that's you know, that's he deserves a lot of

848
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 5: recognition for that in the way he competed.

849
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, all right, I want to get to one

850
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: sequence in the game just to get what you guys

851
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: thought about it, which is the goal line stop. They

852
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: got a penalty of pass interference. They had first and

853
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: goal at the one. Jackson Dart keeps runs stopped, has

854
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: to go off the field. Jameis Winston comes on for

855
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: two plays. They get to a fourth and goal at

856
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: the four, Dark comes back out there. So then I'll

857
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: just start with you. Let just take me through there,

858
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: Like that is unusual of an ask of both sides

859
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: where the quarterback goes out on a goal line goal

860
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: to go situation inside the five. So like obviously Washington

861
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: handled this situation really really really well. Like what did

862
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: you say?

863
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, the initially the first run that on the

864
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: first and goal, Dart ended up getting hit in his

865
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: head kind of neck in whatever. I guess he was

866
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: getting evaluated for a concussion, and so this came out

867
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: later when they put when they put Jamis in the

868
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: game as a defensive guy, I'm sure DQ the way

869
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 2: he called a defense, he's thinking, are they gonna put

870
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: Jamis in fresh off the bench. I know he's a

871
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: veteran and ask him to throw the football in this scenario,

872
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 2: so he dives up all our pressure. It was really

873
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: you could look at it as a run blitz and

874
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: they ran blitch and I think, I want to say

875
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: Frank he or somebody. It was a lot of guys

876
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: in the backfield. I want to say negative yardists play

877
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 2: that happens and then some similar situation. Hey we're gonna

878
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: dial it up again, you know, get after them. And

879
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 2: they defended great there the fourth down play I thought

880
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: was a great call by d Q. And what they

881
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: did is and he mentioned this to us, they doubled,

882
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: They had a bracket on Wandale Robinson. They're number one guy,

883
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: number one target. And then they also were thinking, hey,

884
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: this is an eighty four. THEO Johnson who's called it

885
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: what had five or six touchdowns, especially in the red zone.

886
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 4: These are two guys, we gotta take away in the

887
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 4: red zone.

888
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: Take away eighty four and take away seventeen Wandale Robinson,

889
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: Bobby has a inside breaking Robins on any ross by

890
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: Wandale Robinson. Kwan has him outside. So if he breaks outside,

891
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 2: Kwan's gonna jump that. If he goes inside, Bobby's uh,

892
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: Bobby's gonna take him. And sure enough they go to

893
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: Wandale Robinson, Kwan jumps Billy made the interception. But I

894
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: thought it was a great play call by d Q

895
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: understanding situational football. Hey, who are the guys that they're

896
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: gonna go to in this critical situation eighty four seventeen, somebody,

897
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: these guys are gonna be this, We're gonna we're gonna

898
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: bracket these guys. And man, that ended up being a great,

899
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: great call and they got out of that. Out of

900
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 2: that scenario, would no points given up?

901
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: Oh, I totally agree. I think that's a great articulation

902
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: of it.

903
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: I think, you know, you get like, obviously the commanders

904
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 5: get a little bit lucky that the starting quarterbacks out

905
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 5: Jamis comes in. But I think like just being aware

906
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 5: of the situation, like Fletch's talking about right first down Hey,

907
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 5: we're going to find something, probably a run right second down,

908
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 5: We're going to try and move the pocket on a boot,

909
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 5: which is like, you know, kind of that old Spider

910
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 5: two white banana Wandell's in the backfield. He's going to

911
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 5: the flat understanding that they're trying to get their playmaker

912
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 5: in the position where he's going to get the football.

913
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 5: You know, Jackson Dark comes back in. I thought the

914
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 5: red zone concept was actually pretty good. It's one that

915
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 5: people have hit a lot on it. It's like this

916
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 5: what I would call like tight scissors. So post By,

917
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 5: like the guy in the slot who was THEO or

918
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 5: was one? Now Robinson in a corner by the tight

919
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 5: end you're motioning to it. You got to get that communicated.

920
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 5: And the fact that they were able to get that

921
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 5: communicated and handle and match all the playmakers again, it

922
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 5: shows to me a maturation of the defense and the

923
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 5: maturation of some of the young players. Like we talked

924
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 5: a lot about some of the other guys, Ben Sinnett,

925
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 5: Like I think Kwan Martin had a really good game

926
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 5: yesterday in terms of identifying a role for himself. Like

927
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 5: obviously he makes the play there, but as a box player,

928
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 5: fletch like he is throwing it down in the run game. Man,

929
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 5: nice physical square tackles Atalanta Scrimmage, fitting as a quarters

930
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 5: player rotating down in single high like I think that

931
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 5: might be who he is moving forward as opposed to

932
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 5: that post player. But it's cool to see him find

933
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 5: his sea legs here a little bit too.

934
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 4: No, no, you're I'm glad you brought up Kwan. Man.

935
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: I've always liked Kawan as a football player. And you

936
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: know it was I was hurt when he was missing

937
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: tackle and it was not like he was out there.

938
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 2: I was out there missing because I'm like, man, this

939
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: is such a good football player, and he was getting

940
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: he was getting killed on social.

941
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 4: Media and all that.

942
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: I'm just like, man, this guy is a good freaking

943
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: football player. Think about when he came out of Illinois,

944
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: his versatility. They played him as a nickel, he was

945
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: cover and receiver. They play him as a safety, so

946
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: he had great versatility in his first year. And Washington,

947
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: you know, they used him as a kind of a

948
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: both both kind of a player. They can do a

949
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 2: little bit both. And you mentioned with Will Harris being

950
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: back now he's able to kind of play a lot

951
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: more in the box. There was some times he's coming

952
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: up making tackles and you can see the difference in

953
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: confidence as a football player, Like sometimes you have to

954
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: be reminded like man, I'm a freaking good football and

955
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: and and you got to go out and make a

956
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: few plays. And I thought against the Minnesota Vikings and

957
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: memory starts me correct.

958
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 4: He had a really good game.

959
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 5: He had a great fit from quarters and they like,

960
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 5: I mean he's made like again, like I think, like

961
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 5: you're talking about Will Harris comes back. You know, you're

962
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 5: that you that vet in the room has done a

963
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 5: nice job for you, like kind of letting him be

964
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 5: that box player because Will Harris can do both. And

965
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 5: then Revo man, both those guys, Quan and Revo in

966
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 5: terms of the physicality they play.

967
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: With it jumps off the screen when you're cutting the

968
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: tape on.

969
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 5: So again like a little bit of landa misfit toys.

970
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 5: You know, Kwan obviously is the second pick, but finding

971
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 5: his legs at the right moment, Revo finding a role

972
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 5: Will Harris and his leadership in the back end.

973
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: Like it was. It was, I mean quite honestly great

974
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 3: to see.

975
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: Oh I love it.

976
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: Let's do our own little owne tell the truth Monday

977
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: though here for a minute.

978
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: Sure, Okay, so they won.

979
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: Everybody's happy, Yeah, try to be happy about it. But

980
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: if let's go back to the beginning of this conversation,

981
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,959
Speaker 1: if you do have these standards, then you are gonna

982
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: watch film and see eleven penalties and two turnovers and

983
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: four fumbles and they only lost two of them.

984
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

985
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: So uh, you know, like, do you have the same

986
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: meeting after a win as you do after a loss,

987
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: even at this stage of the season, and go all right,

988
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: like there is still a lot to clean up here

989
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: even though we won.

990
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 5: But I think I think that's good though. It's like

991
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 5: and Fletch can speak to this probably better than I can.

992
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 5: Like I always found like in a win, like you

993
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 5: can get coach, you can coach harden to win. Man,

994
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 5: Everyone's like, oh, you got a coach hard and a

995
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 5: loss coach and harden to win.

996
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 3: Man. We feel good, but we've got this standard. Let's

997
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 3: get this cleaned up.

998
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 5: You know, why are we having a false start? Is

999
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 5: it the communication with the quarterback? Because it's something in

1000
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 5: terms of our calls to the line of scripts. Let's

1001
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 5: get that cleaned up. Let's fix that detail.

1002
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: Right. Why are we having an issue in terms of sacks? Right?

1003
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,959
Speaker 5: Like, oh, is it because the rock depths whatever, Let's

1004
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 5: get like, let's dial in on this thing.

1005
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 3: And so I think like, yeah, there's only what is

1006
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 3: a three games left?

1007
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: Now?

1008
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: Four games left? Goow three three? Like it doesn't seasons

1009
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: on over.

1010
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 5: Man, Let's get as good as we possibly can with

1011
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 5: the reps that we're given. And so yeah, like there's

1012
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 5: a lot of things to correct this football game. There's

1013
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 5: a lot of good things, like we just talked about,

1014
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 5: but let's make sure the corrections are there and then

1015
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 5: the right things and we're better next week than we

1016
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 5: were this week.

1017
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: And why not do it after a win?

1018
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1019
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: I think you it's more important to coach somebody harder

1020
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: after win because there's so many times where teams have

1021
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 2: a tennessee to gloss over certain things in a win like, Okay,

1022
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: we got out of it didn't hurt us, they might

1023
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: not even bring it up. But if you're being critical, like, hey,

1024
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: it didn't hurt us now, but this is something we

1025
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: definitely got to clean up. And there's some things to

1026
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 2: the penalties, the turnovers, can't can't have have the two

1027
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: turnovers and could have been more because connardly he recovered

1028
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: to fumbles and we end up losing one fumble and

1029
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: what did we lose?

1030
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: Two fumbles lost to mc nichols and Mario to both

1031
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter.

1032
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: So we we fumbled four times. You can't have that

1033
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 2: against a better football team. The fund, the turnovers and

1034
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: the penalties, and this may be a different outcome of

1035
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: the ball game. So and and and they have tell

1036
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: the truth Monday, so they'll they'll, they'll correct those things.

1037
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: There were some times some cover coverage things that was like, Okay,

1038
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: this hasn't hurt us here. We got to make sure

1039
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: we clean this up. We got to be better right

1040
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 2: here because this is open. Had a couple of drops

1041
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: by some Giants receivers, right, Why why were they open?

1042
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: So the coaches and the players they understand it, and

1043
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: they'll they'll they'll they'll definitely address those things.

1044
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 5: I mean, we talked about the run game a lot

1045
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 5: to start, Like when you go back and look at it, like, yeah,

1046
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 5: there's good effort and guys are playing hard, but in

1047
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 5: terms of like hey how do we target this run?

1048
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 5: Oh hey, we got kind of an unusual run stud

1049
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 5: here let's get that corrected moving forward, like it's great,

1050
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 5: it's great opportunity to get better, or like hey on

1051
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 5: routes and depths versus certain coverages, angles, outs of corners

1052
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 5: and seams, like this is all good teach tape that

1053
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 5: we can get better with. So yeah, like I think,

1054
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 5: you know, like fletched, like versus a better team, Like

1055
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 5: some of these things are going to hurt you. It's

1056
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 5: good they didn't hurt you today, but it's important as

1057
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 5: a staff to make sure that the players know, hey,

1058
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 5: like this is not our standard of play.

1059
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:31,479
Speaker 3: We can get better.

1060
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 5: And I think, like you know, you talked, you talked

1061
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 5: about the top like if that's who we are, that's

1062
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 5: what we we purport to be. Let's be that way

1063
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 5: all the time. It doesn't matter what time of year,

1064
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 5: time of day. Let's let's get better.

1065
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 4: So I wish we had I wish we had that Billy.

1066
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: And I don't know if we do or not to

1067
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: screen share Jason, do we have that Billy to screen

1068
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: share here?

1069
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: Oh?

1070
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: With difficulties.

1071
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 4: I don't know if we do what we don't?

1072
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 3: Are you are you doing? Are you watching? Not right now?

1073
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 4: Right?

1074
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 5: Well?

1075
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 4: What I want the fans to do.

1076
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: And I just watched that fourth, that fourth down play

1077
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: that fourth and fourth and man, this is a thing

1078
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: of beauty. Man, this is just oh my goodness, the

1079
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: way they uh, the way they stopped this from a defense.

1080
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: There's a a three on two on the combination route

1081
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: between Wandale Robinson and and THEO Johnson. They actually motion

1082
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 2: uh THEO Johnson and and the way they passed this

1083
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: off as a as a back in between between I

1084
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: think it was Nomanoghany and uh yeah, Igbogheny Kwan and Bobby.

1085
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, this is this is textbook teaching tape.

1086
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: I know I went there.

1087
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: Just this is mad watching. Look look at look at

1088
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: watch it.

1089
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: If are whoever is look at look at this booth review.

1090
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: You have to go back and appreciate because the defense

1091
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: has been under fire for so many things they didn't

1092
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: do well. This right here, the way they passed this

1093
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: off and break and fletch.

1094
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: You know what we can do? You know we can do.

1095
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 5: You want to be you want to be in the

1096
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 5: Film Breakdown Show. Why don't I pull that clip for you?

1097
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 5: We can watch on the Film Breakdown Show this week

1098
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 5: and then we can check that out.

1099
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 4: Good dad, I'll be a talent tomorrow.

1100
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so that's what I'm saying. Let's let's do

1101
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 3: it film breakdown show.

1102
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 2: But and oh my god, you got d Q there.

1103
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: This is this is just awesome. All right, I digress.

1104
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: Let's go Brown.

1105
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, it's time for you to give out

1106
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: the belt. You haven't done this in a while, the

1107
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: belt Fletch's Commander Heavyweight Championship belt which Bobby Wagner has

1108
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: held for over two months when we were different people,

1109
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: because they hadn't wanted a while.

1110
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: So got.

1111
00:47:51,440 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 6: Heavyweight Championship, introducing the challenger, Bill Ski married and the

1112
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 6: raining defending undisputed Big Fletch Commander Heavyweight Champion Bobby Wagner.

1113
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 4: Oh man, we had to dust that that belt off

1114
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 4: load again.

1115
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 3: Had to get the shine out before you came on today.

1116
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: A lot of dust on a lot of Cobwells. It's

1117
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: been so long that we've done one of these. But

1118
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: all right, I forgot who was the reigning champion. It's

1119
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: been so long since we since we did this, but

1120
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner's the reigning champion. He had a he had

1121
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: a really good football game yesterday. You look at what

1122
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: he did this is uh had seven tackles, six solos,

1123
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: had a that that the fourth down play that I

1124
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: just talked about in the red zone. It won't go

1125
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: down as a stat but that's outstanding courage by him,

1126
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: Kwan and no Igbinogny. So that's that's part of the evaluation.

1127
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: When I look at this as a judge, this is

1128
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 2: the way I judge it. And then I look at

1129
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: Bill Man Bill crossby Mary and he loves going against

1130
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: these New York Giants. First game against them, opening game

1131
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 2: of regular season, ten carries eighty two yards, had a touchdown,

1132
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: had a big forty two yard run late in that game. Yesterday,

1133
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: he also he had another outstanding game against the New

1134
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: York Football Giants eighteen carries ninety six yards. I would

1135
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: have loved if you were to crack that up that

1136
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 2: hundred yard mark. But he had a touchdown as well

1137
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: in that ball game. So based off of that, when

1138
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: you look at these two guys in the performance, I

1139
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 2: think from an impact standpoint of winning that ball game

1140
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 2: and new Big Fletcher's Commanders heavyweight champion.

1141
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: Bill Let's go yeah, I'll tell you what about that.

1142
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: After the team beats Cowboys on Christmas, which I hope happened.

1143
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner's twenty five tackles away from joining just you

1144
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: and Ray Lewis as the only players ever with two

1145
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: thousand tackles. I hope it happens by the end of

1146
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: the season, but it'd be really great if it happened

1147
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: on Christmas Day, that'd be really cool.

1148
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 4: Last though, would be that'd be awesome.

1149
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: That would be awesome because, I mean, we had a

1150
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: chance to talk with Bobby last night on the postgame showing.

1151
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 2: And to do that two thousand tackles, you got to

1152
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 2: be healthy first and foremost, you have to be productive,

1153
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: extremely productive. We have a long career, and you know

1154
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: it's a God willing he's able to accomplish that. And

1155
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 2: you know that would be great to do it against

1156
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 2: the Cowboys.

1157
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: We don't give the belt out to anybody else on

1158
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: any other team, but I kind of want to give

1159
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: one to Philip Rivers.

1160
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 3: Just a little bit.

1161
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: At forty four. They almost won, They almost won in Seattle.

1162
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: He hadn't played in five years. He's forty four. Loved

1163
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: if we made you go play, you think you can

1164
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: do what Philip Rivers did, I might.

1165
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 2: Be a three technique. Hey, you know what we've been

1166
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: need some pass us a free technique. I think I'm

1167
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: going to win a couple a couple of one on one.

1168
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 3: How old are you now, Logan thirty eight?

1169
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: Thirty eight?

1170
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 3: What was the last time you played? Twenty nineteen? So

1171
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 3: it's almost the same as Rivers. Yeah, do you think

1172
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: you could just go out there and play? I couldn't,

1173
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: I guess much as I want to think I could.

1174
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I will say, like playing quarterbacks a little

1175
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 5: bit different from like a physicality standpoint, like I got

1176
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 5: to go out and block a six technique like that's

1177
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 5: no fun, and like cover kicks on special teams, like

1178
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 5: your body's got to be a little bit more pliable.

1179
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 3: We played Seattle, though he was probably running for his life.

1180
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 4: I got more.

1181
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: I have more faith in Logan being able to pull

1182
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: it off. If we've talked about the command Center Analyst, Logan, myself,

1183
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: Satana Franz, move Sean Springs. I think out of all

1184
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: of us, Logan that's a town of are the ones

1185
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: I got more faith. And I would say Logan would

1186
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: be the guy who I would put my money on

1187
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: because he's first of all, he's he still works out

1188
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: like crazy, still eats like crazy.

1189
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 3: Fred would tell you he could no chance, no chance.

1190
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: He was retired before you even retire. That he has

1191
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 2: bad knees, he's knocked ned, he has bad feet.

1192
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 4: It's true, he know Fred. No, he could not do.

1193
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 5: There's times where he gets it. Did you He told

1194
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 5: you the gasoline story at the gas station. He was

1195
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 5: putting the air in his tires. His back locked up.

1196
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 5: He had to lay down in the street at the

1197
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 5: gas station and for like fifteen minutes, had to call

1198
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 5: his Sunday come get him.

1199
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 3: Fred. So if anybody can't do, if anybody repeat that,

1200
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 3: where are you?

1201
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 2: No, there's too Fred has too many bad habits. He

1202
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: had a wife playing it worse now at least Santana.

1203
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: Santana works out a lot. But for him as a

1204
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: speed at a receiver position, I think you'd be forty

1205
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: five stuff Shan sprees. He's his body blue, Blue is

1206
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: beat up. He has no chance my money logan.

1207
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 5: I'm definitely the closest and it would be a it

1208
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 5: would be a tough road for your boy to get back.

1209
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 4: So I would need about six months to get in

1210
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 4: shape to do it.

1211
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you Philip Rivers.

1212
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 3: Six months. That's pretty six months maybe mine.

1213
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 1: Phil Rivers almost winning in Seattle.

1214
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.

1215
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 5: I literally was talking to someone on the plane on

1216
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 5: the way out to the game and I was like,

1217
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 5: it feels like malpractice to have him play in a

1218
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 5: football game. He's been out a league for five years,

1219
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 5: he's out of shape, and he went out and kind

1220
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 5: of proved me wrong.

1221
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 3: Looky.

1222
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: So that's a lot of self esteem to think he

1223
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: can to forty four. And there's a clip on the

1224
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 1: internet of the high school team he coaches all having

1225
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: a watch party and cheering for him when he threw

1226
00:53:59,280 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 1: a touchdown.

1227
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 3: Path is really cool.

1228
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: Cool? All right, we are down to the final three games,

1229
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: all division games, last first two of them at home.

1230
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: Eagles than Cowboys, both on short weeks. Saturday, five o'clock Eagles,

1231
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: and we'll turn around play Thursday, Christmas Day. Cowboys. Should

1232
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: be a cool scene at Northwest Stadium obviously for that.

1233
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: Then we'll close the season final I think Sunday. They

1234
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: haven't named the time or date yet, but final Sunday Eagles.

1235
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: So what are you looking forward to? Final three games

1236
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: of the year?

1237
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: Man, I'm happy that you know we're going into this

1238
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 2: game against the Eagles on a win short week. I

1239
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 2: love the fact that it's at our in our stadium.

1240
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 2: I know it'll be for if we had lost that game, Man,

1241
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 2: I don't know how many of our fans would still

1242
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 2: been interested in coming to this game. I think because

1243
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: we won, the Eagles are still kind of trying to

1244
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: win a division. We had an opportunity to play spoiler.

1245
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: So I expect a great turnout for by our fans

1246
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: in that ball game and we got we We'll be

1247
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: out for that game. First opportunity to play them coming

1248
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 2: off that in the NFC Championship game, I'm looking forward

1249
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: to the environment, looking forward to seeing our guys compete

1250
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 2: against the right and NFC, NFL champions, Super Bowl champions.

1251
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.

1252
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's going to be It's always

1253
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 5: fun against Philadelphia that we got to see him three

1254
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 5: times last year. So you know, like cow has the

1255
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 5: team grown obviously for us, can they handle playing against

1256
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 5: a better level of competition, Like we talked about some

1257
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 5: of the issues that they had against the Giants, those

1258
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 5: get cleaned up.

1259
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 3: I'm excited to check it out. Yeah.

1260
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: The only way Washington plays spoiler here. It could be

1261
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: to one or the other. They have to win this weekend.

1262
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: Philly clinches the NFC East if they win by virtue

1263
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: of the Dallas loss last night. So Philly just needs

1264
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: a win in one of the final three. Two of

1265
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: them obviously it's Washington. If Washington can knock them off,

1266
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: and Dallas were to get a win, Philly has to

1267
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: play Buffalo the following week, which will probably the AFC

1268
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: East may still be in play at that point for them.

1269
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a big hard game for them. We'll

1270
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: have Dallas here, so we could play a role of

1271
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: spoiler for a couple of weeks if they cannot off

1272
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: the Eagles on Saturday.

1273
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, now you you mentioned that I didn't think

1274
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 2: about the I hadn't even got to the Dallas piece.

1275
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 4: And and then it's Christmas Day. How do have we

1276
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 4: ever played? I know I've never played on Christmas.

1277
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 2: It's a Thursday, so to be unique situation, one o'clock game,

1278
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: and and it'd be interesting to see that that that environment.

1279
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 2: We owe the Giant, I mean, we owe the cowboys

1280
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 2: that gone the situation. Regardless of the situation, you get

1281
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 2: up for those cowboy games. It's it's still a big

1282
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 2: rivalry all the NFC's games.

1283
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 4: Man. There they're they're huge, big rivals.

1284
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 2: But it's something about just when the Cowboys and and

1285
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 2: Commanders slash Redskins get together, it's special.

1286
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 3: Man.

1287
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 4: I may have a burrow on on on Christmas Day.

1288
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 4: I don't know about you, guys.

1289
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: I have a list.

1290
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: More times than not this has gone the right way sometimes,

1291
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: but more times than not, they have ruined more of

1292
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: my Thanksgivings than I care to remember. So to ruin

1293
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: their Christmas really feels perfect.

1294
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 3: That would be awesome. Yeah, that would be awesome.

1295
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1296
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 3: I hope we get the dub Man. That'd be great.

1297
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 4: That that'd be Uh. We might have to get some

1298
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 4: special office for the Christmas Day.

1299
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've already said a note about it.

1300
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 4: Bray, I'm out. I couldn't imagine you putting a stocking

1301
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 4: on that that hair.

1302
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: We don't have to do that, but I'll like, I'll

1303
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: go full Santa if you want.

1304
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 5: We're having our Christmas special show, which we're taping tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Where's it at Jason the Fox Something City tap which

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Speaker 5: is up here in one loud and see if you

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Speaker 5: guys want to come see everybody like, we'll be up there,

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Speaker 5: so come check it out and that'll error on when Jason.

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Speaker 3: Airs Christmas Eve, so join us.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to get the whatever the best commander's ugly

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Speaker 1: Christmas sweater is. I'd like to go in that direction.

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Speaker 1: So if anyone knows where can get one of those,

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Speaker 1: I'll do that.

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Speaker 3: That would be a good one, especially right there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: check a special.

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Speaker 1: Look at that very Santa Claus. Who's Santa Claus? I

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Speaker 1: think a guy you hired a Santa Clause. Santa hired boy.

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Speaker 1: The economy is in rough shape, Santa need to all right,

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Speaker 1: this is off the rails. At least we got to

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Speaker 1: talk about a win. See, this is what happens.

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Speaker 3: You have fun.

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Speaker 1: We had fun, all right. Everybody, talk to you next

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Speaker 1: week after Eagles Game number one.

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Speaker 3: We'll see them.

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Speaker 1: Booth Review was filmed at the Big Bear AI Command

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Speaker 1: a rapidly evolving world, proudly protecting the Washington Commanders and

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Speaker 1: its fans