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Speaker 1: Smell us Now, lady, welcome to Meat Eater Trivia Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. I'm your host Brody

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Speaker 2: Henderson joining me today. We've got Yannis Betelus and Maggie Huddler.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, morning, Happy.

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Speaker 2: It's it's eleven am, Thursday, November six here at the

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Speaker 2: Meat Eater World headquarters in Bozeman. But no matter what

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Speaker 2: time zone you're in, you should probably be out hunting

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: That's right, instead of listening to that stupid show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, if you are listening to this

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Speaker 2: here podcast, it should be from the standard a glassing

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Speaker 2: now because this is a week the rut kicks into

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Speaker 2: high gear for white tails and the mule deer bucks

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Speaker 2: are also starting to get pretty frisky, I hear. So,

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Speaker 2: whether you're doing in all days, sit, you're stuck at work,

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Speaker 2: or you're already tagged out, we've got a great show

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Speaker 2: for you today. We have an interview with a couple

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Speaker 2: of folks from the Wilderness Society up in Alaska regarding

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Speaker 2: the recent federal approval for building the controversial Ambler Road.

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Speaker 2: If you don't know what that is, well we'll fill

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Speaker 2: you in. We're also going to be checking in for

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Speaker 2: a rut report from a few of our crew members

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Speaker 2: who are out hunting right now. Me and my charming

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Speaker 2: Hope co hosts are gonna be competing in our own

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Speaker 2: hot tip off segment for What's You. The live chat

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Speaker 2: audience is going to decide the winner, and we're also

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Speaker 2: going to share some recent hunt stories. Rather than some

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Speaker 2: you know, weird segment that Spencer would do, We're just

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Speaker 2: gonna talk hunting and finally we're gonna try something new.

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Speaker 2: I hope it works out. It involve the folks in

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Speaker 2: the live chat, and it evolves those one of those

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Speaker 2: folks getting the sweet Prize to celebrate the release of

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Speaker 2: our brands banking new Meat Eater cookbook box set Right there?

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Speaker 2: Can you see that philm to two cookbook box set

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Speaker 2: that releases next Tuesday, November eleventh, which is also Veterans Day.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna give away a copy of that thing that's

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Speaker 2: signed by Steve. All you guys have to do while

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Speaker 2: we're doing the show live is you got to write

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Speaker 2: a comment in there in the chat and it has

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Speaker 2: to be the most convincing reason why you and you

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Speaker 2: alone should deserve to be the winner. Phil's going to

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Speaker 2: weed through those as we go. He's gonna pick out

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Speaker 2: a few of the best ones, and at the very

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Speaker 2: end of the show will vote and decide who gets

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Speaker 2: a copy of this cookbooks.

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Speaker 1: Who came up with this game? That's what I did.

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Speaker 1: You don't like it, well, I just don't really understand.

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Speaker 1: Are you expecting to be entertained by by their comment?

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Speaker 2: I want to be.

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Speaker 3: You don't want genuine heart wrenching stories about why they just.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, something like that too. It might work,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, we just want to get people involved in

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Speaker 2: having fun.

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Speaker 1: All right, You guys better be entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure they already are. We probably already

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Speaker 2: have our winner already.

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Speaker 3: There was there's been a chat discourse happening here. I

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Speaker 3: mean an hour before the show even. Still, yeah, there's

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Speaker 3: people in here talking away.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to sweeten the pot too. If you make

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Speaker 2: a really strong case for why you deserve the cookbook,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna get the old Trucks calendar that's also signed

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Speaker 2: by the crew. So there you go, little little extra

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Speaker 2: something fancy. Be honest, Maggie, before we get get really going,

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Speaker 2: what have you guys been up to and what are

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Speaker 2: your plans for the November rut.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm just really here for the report since I

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Speaker 1: leave for Wisconsin tomorrow, and uh, as long as I

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Speaker 1: can get these rut reports in, then I know what

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Speaker 2: I think we have a Wisconsin reut report coming in,

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Speaker 2: don't we? M M, we do?

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Speaker 1: And I don't know. I don't think we're gonna play

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Speaker 1: Mark's reut report. But I got a picture this morning

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Speaker 2: Is that right, little teaser, Maggie.

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Speaker 4: Uh, Admittedly I don't have deer hunting plans. I got

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Speaker 4: a freezer full of elk meat right now.

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Speaker 2: But my got your meat.

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Speaker 4: My bird dog, Bill has been real bummed when we've

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Speaker 4: So the gears are shifting and we're gonna go try

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Speaker 4: and shoot some birds now, So what do you saying?

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Speaker 2: Birds? What kind of birds? Uh?

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Speaker 5: Ducks around where we live.

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Speaker 4: And then we're gonna venture to the other side of

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Speaker 2: So bring that dog up here to hunt pheasants. It's

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Speaker 5: Really, yes, I will.

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Speaker 2: And I saw it in the other day, mule deer

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Speaker 2: and antelope, and I must have seen I don't know,

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Speaker 2: a couple hundred sharp tails like they were just everywhere

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Speaker 2: man where I was. So I'll tell you where they

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Speaker 5: Else, I know how to keep my mouth shut.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: On Saturday, I had I had a good lesson, I

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Speaker 2: And then I found I killed an antelope Saturday. Sunday

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Speaker 2: found a like for Montana, a very very nice buck,

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Speaker 2: and I wanted him really really bad. But it was

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Speaker 2: get into position, and I think I made the right

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Speaker 1: Well, tell us just because it was windy, it was.

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Speaker 2: Rushed, like I had to sprint, I was breathing hard.

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Speaker 2: It was a small window to shoot through that comminate windy.

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Speaker 5: Just wasn't right.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't right.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't big enough for that kind of a shot.

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Speaker 2: No, he was too big to make that kind of shot.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying, I'm guessing he was like a solid

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Speaker 1: one sixties maybe even a one seventy tight buck something

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Speaker 1: don't think the lad would have been flying.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I wouldn't have shot.

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Speaker 1: Because I was telling my kids last night actually at

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Speaker 1: the dinner table, that personal ethics usually tend to as

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Speaker 1: the buck gets bigger, the ethics sort of slide down down.

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Speaker 2: But I was like, I've been talking to my kids lately,

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Speaker 2: like about there's just no reason to do that shoot

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Speaker 2: and see what happens. Thing like if you want, like

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Speaker 2: now and then I respect anyway you look, you look

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Speaker 2: like you're doubting me.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, No, I'm not not at all. It's just I

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Speaker 1: of the conversation around it, because I know, if like

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Speaker 2: I we don't ever really need any buck.

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Speaker 1: No, I know. But when they get huge, yeah, like

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Speaker 1: it's it's like a drug. Well that's what I make

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Speaker 1: people do, stupid shit, That's what it was. Two dure.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like, well, if I can just get

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Speaker 1: in him later. Okay, I'm just saying there's a different

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Speaker 1: you made that decision. But you know, it's such a

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Speaker 2: It is it is. You know, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: I'm heading to Colorado, like today, two hundred inch pops out.

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Speaker 2: I might be shooting over the horizon.

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Speaker 1: That's right. You'll be like, eight hundred never tried it,

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Speaker 1: but this buck is worth it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, moving on to the guts of the show.

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Speaker 2: As always, there are a lot of important public lands

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Speaker 2: is this is the last few days of a public

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Speaker 2: to there's a plan out there from the federal government

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Speaker 2: which essentially prioritizes managing BLM lands like multi use, but

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Speaker 2: prioritizes wildlife conservation. The plan would throw that out the window.

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Speaker 2: That are rescinding the plan would throw that out the window.

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Speaker 2: So you can go to Regulations dot gov and leave

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Speaker 2: a comment supporting just leaving the public Lands Rule as is.

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Speaker 2: Go on there and do that. I think you've got

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Speaker 2: what'd you say, Maggie till November tenth?

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Speaker 5: November tenth, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Only a few more days, So go do that. The

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Speaker 2: is the Ambler Road, And if you're not familiar, the

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Speaker 2: Ambler Road is will be a two hundred and ten

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Speaker 2: Isn't that right? Honest? Yes, it runs east west from

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Speaker 2: concerns about destructive impacts of fish and wildlife habitat, including

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Speaker 2: a major caribou migration corridor. Now there's there's proponents of this,

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Speaker 2: But you got to keep in mind that the road

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Speaker 2: is being built almost exclusively for foreign mining interests, which

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Speaker 2: So yeah, there's going to be some local jobs that

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Speaker 2: mining companies. So we're going to dig into that today.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Tim Fullman from the Wilderness Society.

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Speaker 2: He's their senior ecologist. We're also going to talk to

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Speaker 2: Matt Jackson from the Wilderness Society, who's their senior manager,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to see what's going on and check

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Speaker 2: out the potential impacts with those guys.

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Speaker 1: So, guys, if I can add Redy too, if you

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Speaker 1: want to hear more from someone that's opposed to the

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Speaker 1: Ambler Road. Did a great podcast with author Seth Cantoner

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Speaker 1: probably a year ago. He wrote a book called A

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Speaker 1: Thousand Trails Home, Living with Caribou, but basically where he lives.

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Speaker 1: Uh would be greatly impacted by this road right at

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Speaker 1: the end of the road. Yeah, and his his caribou

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Speaker 1: I'm sure if you just searched Seth canton or meet

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Speaker 1: your podcast, you'd find the episode.

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Speaker 2: Yep, you got those guys in there. Yep there. Okay,

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Speaker 2: thanks for coming, guys. We appreciate you talking to us

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Speaker 2: Ambler Road. Matt, I want to talk to you first.

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Speaker 2: It seems like this this is a situation to at

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Speaker 2: least to me that in many ways mirrors the Pebble

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Speaker 2: down in Bristol Bay. You know, it's really controversial. It

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Speaker 2: involves like really good wildlife habitat also fish habitat. So

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Speaker 2: why don't you talk about the wilderness societies number one,

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Speaker 2: what you guys do holistically, and your role in the

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Speaker 2: Ambler Road situation, and then after that, after that we'll

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Speaker 2: get in and like more of a feel for who

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Speaker 2: in Alaska is for and against. But let's hit the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks so much for having us on Mine's Matt.

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Speaker 6: I'm born and raised Alaskan and the Wilderness Society nationally,

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Speaker 6: we help write the Wilderness Act. We advocate for public lands,

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Speaker 6: fish and wildlife habitat, and so we're working on this

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Speaker 6: issue of the Amble Road in Alaska because of its

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Speaker 6: impact not just the federal public lands, national public lands,

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Speaker 6: but this huge swath of the Brooks Range the proposed

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Speaker 6: that you mentioned, and the parallels you drop with the

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Speaker 6: Pebble Mine are really accurate. You know, what we've got

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Speaker 6: here is we're looking at the short term profits of

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Speaker 6: public lands of wildlife and most importantly the communities that

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Speaker 6: how the Wilderness Society started to get involved in the

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Speaker 6: Ambler Road is through listening the local communities and looking

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Speaker 2: So it's been kind of a roller coaster because not

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Speaker 2: that long ago the road had been shut down and

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Speaker 2: then just recently it's back on again. So that's like

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Speaker 2: it's got to make your job harder, you know when

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Speaker 2: things change. So and then the same thing with Pebble

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Speaker 2: it's been a little bit of a roller coaster.

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Speaker 6: But what's been really consistent from within the state is

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Speaker 6: actually the opposition. You know, we've been through multiple public

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Speaker 6: You know, eighty eight tribes across the Yukon Quay, cuk

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Speaker 6: and Obuck watersheds have opposed this project. So you know

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Speaker 6: what the FEDS are doing is a roller coaster. But

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Speaker 6: here in the state pretty level, we know what we

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Speaker 2: I want to get into some like nitty grity stuff

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Speaker 6: That's a question we don't know the answer to. The

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 6: I think it's upwards of three hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 6: right now, and nobody's a red who's going to pay

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Speaker 6: for it. I think one thing that's really important for

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Speaker 6: You know, it's not a US highway. It's going to

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Speaker 6: be a private mining road for industrial scale mine trucks

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Speaker 6: that driving there, what's called fugitive dust mindtailings escape from

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Speaker 6: company will pay the toll, but nobody knows who's going

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Speaker 6: to pay to build it.

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Speaker 2: Is there any chance like American tax payers end up

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Speaker 2: on the hook for some of the costs.

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Speaker 6: We're certainly going to be on the hook to clean

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Speaker 6: up the mess afterwards. That's how it worked, but it's

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Speaker 6: not sure who's going to be on the hook to

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Speaker 6: build it.

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Speaker 2: A risk is there is there a timeline for construction

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Speaker 6: You know, some of the boosters, these foreign mining companies,

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Speaker 6: they say they want to start as soon as next spring.

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Speaker 6: You know, I think that's un realistic financially and you know,

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Speaker 6: legally for them, right, that's what they're trying to do

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Speaker 2: Normally, when something, you know, a road like this gets built,

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Speaker 2: there has to be all these like assessments done beforehand,

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Speaker 7: Well yes and no.

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Speaker 6: You mentioned roar Coaster, all of the Federal roller coaster.

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Speaker 6: All of that work was done, and in twenty twenty

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Speaker 6: of decision that based on all that work and permitting,

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Speaker 6: there's no way you can build this road legally because

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Speaker 6: it would impact wildlife, it would impact subsistence habitat or

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Speaker 6: these issues with it. And so that's why the government

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Speaker 6: And that's what the Wilderness Society and are more importantly

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Speaker 6: the frontline communities here in Alaska are trying to stop.

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Speaker 1: Right now.

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Speaker 2: What what are you guys working with a bunch of

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Speaker 6: We are, there's a big coalition. You know, I mentioned

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Speaker 6: those eighty eight tribes. Yeah, and so you know Tannona

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Speaker 6: It's definitely a team effort. But really the stars of

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Speaker 6: the tribal members from the region who from the beginning

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Speaker 1: Great, I had a question, bro, where does the where

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Speaker 6: Our current governor has spoken in favor of the project.

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't want to speak for him, but

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Speaker 2: Which isn't I mean, resource extraction itself isn't necessarily bad

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Speaker 2: if it's done in the right way. But you know this,

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Speaker 2: this doesn't sound like the right way, Tim, I want

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Speaker 2: I want to move on to you. The Ambler Road,

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Speaker 2: as I mentioned earlier, is going to bisect kind of

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Speaker 2: go right through their migration path. It's also critical habitat

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Speaker 2: if you could, let's let's start with that, that caribou herd,

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Speaker 8: Through Sure, yeah, I mean, I guess zooming out even

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Speaker 8: So when I moved here eleven and a half years ago,

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Speaker 7: Now, as you mentioned.

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Speaker 8: The proposed area in which the road would go would

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Can you give us some other more specific

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Speaker 7: Sure?

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Speaker 8: So earlier this year we published a study looking at

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Speaker 8: you mentioned the impact for the people who rely on caribou.

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Speaker 8: There are concerns about the ability to access caribou herds

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Speaker 8: there's real interest among groups like the Western Arctic Caribou

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Speaker 2: Has the Western Arctic curred? Is that is it already

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Speaker 7: It was I believe it.

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Speaker 8: Was just about a year ago that because of the

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Speaker 7: And so that's exactly.

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Speaker 8: Why, you know, with all these things going on, there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys got anything?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Isn't this also going to have a huge impact

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Speaker 4: on fish? I mean there should be like I think

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Speaker 8: We definitely are hearing concerns about the impacts to fish

439
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Speaker 8: from people out on the land and in the community's

440
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Speaker 8: nearest to where the road is proposed. And you know,

441
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 8: we have an aquatic ecologist who works with us here

442
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 8: at the Wilderness Society, and yeah, he's much better able

443
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 8: to speak to some of the details of that. But yeah,

444
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 8: there's concerns about what the impacts of putting in a road,

445
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 8: putting in the culverts, all those things might do to

446
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Speaker 8: fish and to fishing opportunities.

447
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Speaker 2: If you if you guys don't mind.

448
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 6: Right, it was four thousand culverts, Yeah, would be required

449
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 6: to build this road.

450
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Speaker 2: If you guys don't mind, send us his contact info

451
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: because we might want to talk to him about that more.

452
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: All right, we kind of got to wrap things up

453
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 2: and move on, guys, But before we go, is there

454
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Speaker 2: any hope of a reversal like in the courts? And

455
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: is there anything people can do to fight it right now?

456
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 6: There's always, especially when there's so much unity around protecting

457
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 6: this landscape within the state, within the communities that live there. Unfortunately,

458
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 6: kind of by design, there's not a lot of public engagement.

459
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 6: There's you know, there's not a comment period, there's not

460
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Speaker 6: a chance for people to speak up at this moment.

461
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 6: But the Wilderness Society and our friends here in Alaska.

462
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Speaker 6: We're working to create that opportunity to make sure we

463
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 6: have public comments or a chance to speak up. So

464
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 6: what I can tell folks right now is to just

465
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Speaker 6: follow the Wilderness Society on social media, sign up for

466
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 6: email updates, and also to defend the Brooks Range group.

467
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Speaker 6: As you asked earlier, if we were working with lots

468
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Speaker 6: of other groups in Alaska. That group of is called

469
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Speaker 6: Defend the Brooks Range and they're also on social media,

470
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 6: and you know, the Wilderness Society we work on a

471
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 6: bunch of things. If you follow Defend the Brooks Range,

472
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 6: you're going to get content on the Brooks Range, you know,

473
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Speaker 6: learn more about the people that live there, the kind

474
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Speaker 6: of wildlife that's there, and how to stay involved.

475
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just just look at Pebble minus as an

476
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: example like that was a big win, so hopefully we

477
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Speaker 2: get one here too. Well, thanks a lot, guys. I'm

478
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: sure you're busy, so we'll let you go.

479
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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, thank you.

480
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: Okay, you guys, got anything to say about that?

481
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 4: Oh?

482
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: It just it makes me sick, you know, to think that.

483
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: But you know, the whole thing is people are always like, well,

484
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: we need to we need more energy here, well than

485
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 1: even energy. This is sure just mindy. But you know

486
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: when they talk about doing more uh you know resource

487
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: extraction on the north side of the Brooks Range in

488
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: the uh in the in the park there. Yeah, right, yeah,

489
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: it's like most of our resources now are exported. Sure,

490
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: people don't understand that, Like we have plenty we export it.

491
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: We don't. We're not always buying oil from some other

492
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: place to to you know, make our cars go. We

493
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: have plenty of it. We don't need to pump more

494
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: out of it. Like it's a reserve for a reason.

495
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: Let's keep it there until we really need it, you know,

496
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: for when it's like dire in this.

497
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: Case, like it's foreign mining companies, like it's it's.

498
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 4: Crazy, well, and there's this frantic need like we have

499
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 4: to do this now. We need to get these industries

500
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 4: going now. And when there's this push to get things

501
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 4: done so fast, you know, environmental protections aren't taken into consideration.

502
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 5: Things are just they're jumping through hoops.

503
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 4: And it it's you know, it's really a like reversal

504
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 4: in time of like we've seen the damage that mines

505
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 4: can do, yet we're so willing to just go right

506
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 4: back to this cause all this environmental damage without a

507
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 4: second look, just for you know, make the rich richer.

508
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt there'll be a few Alaskans that

509
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: have some jobs there for a few years, you know,

510
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: and it could be twenty years of jobs. But like,

511
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: the real winners are not going to be Americans.

512
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Speaker 4: Nope, No, And and think about how much time they

513
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 4: would have to be spending cleaning up mine tailings, cleaning

514
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 4: up the water, cleaning up the land.

515
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: The thing is is like like you can't like never

516
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: truly clean that stuff.

517
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: No, it's there, it's it becomes part of the land.

518
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: And it's when you have a place like Alaska. It's

519
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 4: just such a shame that some people are so willing

520
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 4: to sacrifice that for the sake of the dollar.

521
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: Yep, let's move on to something fun.

522
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: That's right, let's get this. Let's get this thing that

523
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: our smiles turned around.

524
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: Yep, we got an in house hot tip off contest.

525
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: We're going to do so you gotta fall along and

526
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: place your vote in the chat. Make it real easy

527
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: for Phil to figure out who the winner is.

528
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to start a poll here as

529
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 3: soon as the tip offs end.

530
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: Before we get into it. If you've got a hot

531
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: tip off that's so hot, it has to be shared

532
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: with us because we do fan hot tip offs. Also,

533
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: send it to I think it's radio live at the

534
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: meat eater dot com. I think it might just be radio.

535
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: I might be radio.

536
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: I'm a horrible engineer of the show. But maybe the

537
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: producer Jacob Pipe or.

538
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: Send it to like info at the meat Eater. Someone

539
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: will get it at.

540
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 5: The medeater dot com.

541
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Speaker 2: Yeah, send it to Jannas at the meadeater dot com.

542
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 2: DM it to Maggie on Instagram. Yeah, someone will get it.

543
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, send us those we like. We like

544
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: doing those from the from the fans too, Phil, you

545
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: ready to see him up? Or Yeah, we've got some.

546
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: We've got video tips from Brody and Janie and then

547
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Speaker 3: Maggie is going to do an in house hot tip off.

548
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 4: I thought that's a students, so that's what I rolled with.

549
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: No, Brody said I couldn't do it.

550
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: I didn't say it couldn't.

551
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: Well, anyways, depends.

552
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: On like I couldn't have done mine that way.

553
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's watch the tips. Welcome to another

554
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: hot tip off. Tell us here. Here's my hot tip.

555
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: During the year, prepare for hunting season by making.

556
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 9: Large amounts of things like chili, elk stew, breakfast sausage,

557
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 9: meat balls, cook meat.

558
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: For barbecue sandwiches from a deer neck.

559
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: Bear beeria.

560
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 7: Here's enough for three meals.

561
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: I want some.

562
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: More slow cooked meat, more breakfast sausage. If you do

563
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 1: this and every time you have dinner, you just make

564
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: a little extra and vacuum seal it, put it in

565
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: your freezer, then it's time for hunting season. You just

566
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: throw all that stuff into the cooler, go to camp,

567
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: and dinners are pretty much done. All you gotta do

568
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: is reheat it, hit the grocery store, buy tortillas, some buns,

569
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: whatever you need. Makes life super easy and you get

570
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: to continue to be living the meat eater lifestyle and

571
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: eating game while you're hunting game for next year. So

572
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: there you go. Beat that hot tip off. Maggie and

573
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: Brodie hang aggressive. Note to future Yanni from past Yanni

574
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Speaker 1: shoot straight this week, Okay, aim for the top of

575
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: the heart.

576
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, thanks, ming at you with a hot tip

577
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: from antalyp season here in Montana. My son just got

578
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: this buck like an hour ago, and we're ready to

579
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: take the head off of it. For years and years

580
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: when I was taking the head off of buck or

581
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: a bull, I would always come in from the top,

582
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: like back behind the ears and through all that heavy

583
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: muscle and tendon that's down here. And I learned that

584
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: if you flip them over and come in from the

585
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: throat down, it's just way easier, way faster. That you

586
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: come out right where you want, where the skull meets

587
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: the spine, and slip your knife right between the skull

588
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: and the spine, and it takes like less than half

589
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: the time of coming in from the top to just

590
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: go down cut through the the esophagus there and follow

591
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: those jaw muscles that are jaw bone down right there,

592
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: and you get through that stuff and you're there like

593
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: it's right there and you'll find, oh, Kenny, execute that.

594
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: If you get get it right, you can just.

595
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Speaker 10: Cut kick it a little bit and you're right where

596
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 10: you're at and you're through just like that. Like it's

597
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 10: like fast, way faster than coming through all the heavy

598
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 10: muscle and tendon from the top.

599
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Speaker 2: So that's your hot tip.

600
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Speaker 4: You know about your hot tip, Brody, If you're getting

601
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 4: lymph nodes for CWD.

602
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 5: You've already made that first cut. You're already right there.

603
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't do the whole like skin in the

604
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: head and all that. When I take a skull or

605
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: take a head out. No, I'll leave all that stuff on.

606
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: You do have to be careful though, cutting them that

607
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: close like that, because a lot some CWD test check

608
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: stations will be like, hey, you're a little tight. We

609
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: like to leave a little bit more neck on here.

610
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 5: Well, Wyoming, you just have to get the lymph nodes out.

611
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: Can you bring them in personally?

612
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, all right, Maggie, let's let's hear yours.

613
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 5: Oh okay, this.

614
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: Is this is kind of a lukewarm tip, but uh

615
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 4: it was extremely convenient this year.

616
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 5: Phil you got the picture up. Uh so processing my

617
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 5: elk this year.

618
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 4: Uh we just laid out butcher paper on my kitchen island,

619
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 4: and uh we could label all the pots and everything

620
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 4: because we've got like a grind pile, a jerky pile

621
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 4: of dog pile. So when you're shipping Miller lights, you

622
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 4: and you don't get them confused.

623
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Speaker 5: Actually that's a high life.

624
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 4: And uh it just made clean up really easy because

625
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 4: I don't have big enough cutting boards for a whole quarter,

626
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 4: so you could just kind of flop whole muscle groups there.

627
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 4: Get ready to clean it up a little more. And uh,

628
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 4: you know it's kind of a lame tip, but man,

629
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 4: it made clean up the breeze this year.

630
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: You're not cutting on the table though, right.

631
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 4: No, I mean I've got it's just like a walnut

632
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 4: butcher block, so I could if I wanted to, but

633
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 4: trying not to.

634
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 5: Yah, patina it up that much.

635
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: But I do the same thing but without the butcher paper.

636
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, just spray and white.

637
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 4: Well. See that's the thing I can't really because it's

638
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 4: an untreated butcher block, so I don't have a way

639
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 4: to like really disinfect it that well.

640
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 5: Or it been like dish soap.

641
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: You should just like rub a bunch of mineral oil

642
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: into that one.

643
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: Well, I keep doing it, but it's like not even

644
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 4: a year old, so.

645
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 5: It does doesn't quite have like it's not quite there yet.

646
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 2: I don't want to seem like I'm bagging on your

647
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: hot tip off. I think it's great.

648
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: It's a good tip.

649
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 5: Yeah it was.

650
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: It does make clean up super easy.

651
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 5: It made clean up real easy.

652
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: Brody's tip is good too, he told me about it.

653
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: I forget when maybe on the youth hunt, and I've

654
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: used it on two different animals. Now you're going through

655
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: the same stuff as you would go from coming in

656
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: from the top.

657
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: It's just easier to bind.

658
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's easier to find the gap that takes

659
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Speaker 1: you there.

660
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: Something about coming in from the top where you're just

661
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: not lined up right a lot of the.

662
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: Time, or I don't know, but I just think that, yeah,

663
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: the top, it just takes way more experience to like

664
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: hit the spot exactly right, because when I hit it

665
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: just right, I can do it that way fast too.

666
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: And it's also like the way that the joints come together,

667
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 2: the skull and the spine coming to if you turn

668
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: it over and it's like they're coming apart, almost like

669
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: you stretch that throat out, and it's it's, you know,

670
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: like that. It's hard to explain, all right, I pull

671
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: his live everybody.

672
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: I'll give you another thirty seconds or so and then

673
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: we'll call it.

674
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 4: I remember that conversation because that was when I was

675
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 4: up here last time for me to to roast you

676
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 4: guys were talking.

677
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 2: About that we were stick those antlers in the ground

678
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 2: or whatever layser just right.

679
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 4: I like your tip too, Yannie, because I do that

680
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 4: all the time, just for my sanity, not even just

681
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 4: for hunting, Like I love having stuff ready to roll over.

682
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 5: I'd like to just.

683
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 2: Roll that way all the time.

684
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

685
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife would like it too.

686
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: We use some of it throughout the year. But what

687
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: happens is the kids get overeaten something or you know,

688
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: they're like do again. And so this worked out perfectly

689
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: because you know, I had to cook for myself for

690
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: the next week and my dad and to have basically

691
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: seven or eight meals done, it's gonna make it easy.

692
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: Where'd you get that Burier recipe?

693
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: Probably New York Times. I'm guessing you're going to try that.

694
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 5: Have you? Have you gotten into the little freezer mold things,

695
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 5: a little square.

696
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: Things they do for baby food.

697
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 4: I don't know that they used to be like ice

698
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 4: cube trays, but you can freeze like stock and stuff

699
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: and like a square thing and then you just stick

700
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 4: them in a freezer bag.

701
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 5: Those are slick. That was going to be my other

702
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 5: hot tip option.

703
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: Now, no, where are we at with the voting?

704
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: I will let you know right now. With twenty one

705
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: percent of the vote. In third place is Maggie Hudloaws.

706
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: But we have the Maggie has a lot of supporters.

707
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 5: In the chat thanks chat.

708
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone said that they've been doing it Maggie's way

709
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 3: for the last few years. Game changer, That's what he said.

710
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: But then the winner with forty four percent of the

711
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: vote is Brody Henderson.

712
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: Thank you every much to try this weekend. When you

713
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: kill a great big buck. If you're not going to

714
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: get it mounted, I'm just going to do a freedom ount. Well, Phil,

715
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: let's uh do some like questions and comments.

716
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: Sure it is.

717
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: I have I've been book flagging, book barking all of

718
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 3: the cookbook submissions.

719
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but and we have.

720
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: We have a few just straight up questions, but I

721
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 3: kind of have to like sort sort through them.

722
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: Here, I get it. Uh.

723
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: And Andrew was in the med Eater store this morning

724
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 3: and saw Maggie in the wild and was starstruck. But

725
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: that just that just goes to show you that even

726
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: even our crew members go shop at the mediat store.

727
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 5: Fort Hi, Andrew.

728
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: I can't believe you didn't buy this one. Get this.

729
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 4: I almost did, and then I thought we'd be matching

730
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 4: if I came.

731
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: In was the luckiest hunting hat I've ever owned. Oh yeah, yeah,

732
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: I think like five or six big game animals have

733
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: fallen I've been wearing, so you like when you're going.

734
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: Hunt now, like you feel weird if you don't have

735
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: it on.

736
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear it through the end of this season

737
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: and then I'll retire put it in the auction house

738
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: oddities or something. But I'm telling you, if you're having

739
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: a rough season right now, go order yourself. When he's

740
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: wired to hunt, buck ats.

741
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 5: As what everybody wants is a stinky hunting hat.

742
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 3: Nathan still Will says, with the deer, I am putting

743
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 3: the rib meat into the grind for burger. How much

744
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: would you worry about having the fat tallow attached to

745
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: the meat going into the grind? Will it affect the

746
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: flavor or texture?

747
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: I think it depends on the deer. Like a big

748
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: buck with a bunch of that tallow on the outside

749
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: of his chest, Yeah.

750
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 5: Be a little waxy.

751
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I've gotten away from using that type of

752
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: meat in my I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it,

753
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 2: I am, but that rib meat is just full of gristle,

754
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: and the more gristle your burger has the shittier your

755
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: burger's going to be. I know people don't like sacrificing

756
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: like big hole muscle roasts off the ham or off

757
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: the shoulder, but like that's what I use for burger.

758
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 5: It makes better burger.

759
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I would just save the ribs to cook.

760
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: His ribs agreed, or de bone them and then chop

761
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: them up real small and make stew or any other

762
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: slow and low preparation like you would do with the

763
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 1: neck or the shanks, melt that stuff. Where that stuff

764
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: that you're like worrying about, how what to deal with

765
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: deal with it, and how it's gonna be negative to

766
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 1: your recipe. If you slow and low those ribs, it's

767
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna add to the flavor and the consistency

768
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: in the recipe.

769
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Speaker 2: I mean he's specifically asking about fat and tallow. I

770
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 2: would get rid of as much of that as you can.

771
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 2: But you can't get rid of all that gristle that's

772
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: in the rib meat. You just can't.

773
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

774
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Speaker 3: Great, most of everything else has been cookbook stuff. But

775
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna this is a phill question that Brody loves.

776
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 3: To John's asking if I'm playing Battlefield six. I am not,

777
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 3: but alex Plocta, who's our social guy who plays trivia occasionally,

778
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: is playing red SEC and we might play together soon.

779
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 2: So that's fun. Oh you guys can have a little

780
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: video game play day now, John. I just rolled credits

781
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: on Hades two.

782
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 3: I'm in the act three of Hollow Night Silk Song

783
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: and I'm playing Ghost of Yot, which I'm kind of

784
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: bouncing off of. I'm kind of phil I've got open

785
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: world fatigue. Yeah, Brody, what.

786
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: Maybe you're not willing to share because you don't want

787
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: to get attacked online? But what's your like online video

788
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: hand video game plan? Handle?

789
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: Oh well, yeah, you don't have to.

790
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: I'm not going to share it, Okay, you gotta tell me.

791
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: I shared it.

792
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: I shared it once before on Ben O'Brien's old podcast,

793
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 3: and even then with with his smaller audience, I got

794
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 3: inundated with a bunch of requests from I'm sure find people,

795
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: but I like to have a clean free.

796
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: We should run a contest to have people guess your handle.

797
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I think some people do. All right. Is

798
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: that all for now?

799
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 7: Yeah?

800
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all for now, but please send in some

801
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: more straight up questions for the end of the show,

802
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 3: because we're a little light on those.

803
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: Questions and a good reason you you need that their cookbook. Okay,

804
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: Next up, we are going to be checking in with

805
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: some around the country for some boots on the ground reports.

806
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: But before we get to them, I just want to

807
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: check in with you guys. Gianness. You got some exciting

808
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 2: stuff showing up on your trail cams.

809
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say exciting. It's kind of what you expect.

810
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: Deer movement, lots of deer movement, more daylight movement than

811
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: a month ago. It's not like the cams all Sunner

812
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: just lit up with you know, Boon and Crockett type bucks.

813
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: And I try to remind myself and my dad especially

814
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: a lot all the time, is that, like you can't

815
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: not make hunting decisions based on cameras. And we have

816
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: a lot of them, you know, we're you know, partners

817
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: with Boultrie, so basically have as many cameras I want

818
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: to run. There's probably two dozen of them out there

819
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: right now, but still deer walk behind them, they walk

820
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: sometimes in front of them and don't get their picture taken.

821
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: You just like I like them have them for like

822
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: a general inventory. I know where there's like a bunch

823
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: of dos are hanging out right now, which that's a

824
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: good thing to know for the rut, you know, like

825
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: where they're hanging out. So yeah, that's my trail cameraport.

826
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: Maggie said, you're you're not gonna be I'm not.

827
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 4: But I have seen more mule deer running around. Yeah,

828
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 4: which is cool to see, except for you know, I

829
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 4: was driving up from Wyoming last night, so I was

830
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 4: driving pretty slow the whole way because I saw quite

831
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 4: a few deer running around, especially driving it.

832
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: You know, I think the way to avoid them is

833
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 2: drive faster.

834
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, take a look at my truck and then maybe

835
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Speaker 4: you consider that.

836
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I have one day of mule deer

837
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: hunting in this year. Just a few days ago, there

838
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: was some some small box four ki's that were like

839
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 2: hanging with those fought like getting their nose up near

840
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: the dose. But but it's just like that mule deer, right,

841
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 2: I feel lags behind the white tail rut a little bit.

842
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: I did have that big buck that was that was

843
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: checking a dough, but he was like not ruddy. He

844
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna walk over there and see what's

845
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: going on? And then he walked away. So like I'm

846
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: hoping because I'm heading to Colorado, I'm hoping that it's

847
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: it's gonna start kicking off good. Let's check out the

848
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: actual in the field. Reports Phil.

849
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 11: Hey Spencer new Arth bringing you a rut report from

850
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 11: November three. I am in eastern Montana hunting a place

851
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 11: that is almost exclusively mule deer, So that's the kind

852
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 11: of information you're getting from me. Last night I saw

853
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 11: thirty to forty muley doze broke up into like ten

854
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 11: different groups, and not a single one of them had

855
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 11: a buck with them. I think if it was a

856
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 11: week from now, two weeks from now, that would have

857
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 11: been a different story. But clearly the mulis out here

858
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 11: are not at a stage in the rut where they

859
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 11: dos are getting too harassed quite yet, Otherwise I would

860
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 11: have seen it last night. This morning I saw a

861
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 11: bachelor group of three bucks together. They were leaving an

862
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 11: egg field headed to bad right at about shooting light,

863
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 11: and those three bucks seemed kind of irritated with each other.

864
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 2: A couple of them.

865
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Speaker 11: Postured, looked like they were going to lock antlers. At

866
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 11: one point, a different buck I saw him rubbing his

867
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 11: antlers thrashing around in one of those draws, and one

868
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 11: of those bucks I killed right at sunrise, and I'll

869
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 11: go show him to you in the back of my

870
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 11: pickup here right now.

871
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: Here he is.

872
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 11: I was doing that rot report from inside of my

873
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 11: truck because it is so damn windy out here, and

874
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 11: I care about our listeners. This buck was the biggest

875
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 11: buck in that bachelor group. And if I'd have been

876
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 11: out here a week later, he might have been in

877
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 11: a different county because he seemed like he was getting

878
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 11: amped up to chase some tail. All right, I will

879
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 11: be hosting Meat Eater Radio next week. I'll have more

880
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 11: on this story. Then back to you, Brody, nice buck.

881
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 7: Nice Tony Peterson's got your rut report right here.

882
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 12: As you can see, you should probably be in a

883
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 12: tree right now. Not a huge surprise, that is, it's

884
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 12: the first week of November.

885
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 13: Put in all fairness, he killed it four minutes into

886
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 13: his first sit, so he has really no idea what's

887
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 13: going on.

888
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 12: I did sit there for two extra hours.

889
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 13: Afterward, right, did you see rud act like after you

890
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 13: were done hunting, did you observe any.

891
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 12: I was drinking a Starbucks energy drinking, eating a protein bar,

892
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 12: and I did see a little buck come through cruising.

893
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 7: He was rotting.

894
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 12: This dude was looking. That dude was looking, and we

895
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 12: had does going between and they were not together. So

896
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 12: it was just like Bucks for Roman. Does were trying

897
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 12: to avoid him. But it's definitely even being sixty five

898
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 12: degrees seventy degrees today, they were going.

899
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 7: I'll like to return to something in case people missed.

900
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 13: It four minutes into his first set, right, but I

901
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 13: would like to I would like to wrap this up

902
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 13: by asking Steve what he was doing when I shot

903
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 13: this book.

904
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 7: I was trying to help the deer heard by doing

905
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 7: some kyot work on November four, And that's why that

906
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 7: bunk was free to see who he was, you know.

907
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 12: Right, because the real threat wasn't in the woods to

908
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 12: get out there.

909
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 7: Oh you know what, Tony had found him on a

910
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 7: camera and his name was He might not have heard

911
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 7: it before. His name was old split times you put

912
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 7: an old old try split is what he should have been, right,

913
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 7: pretty derivative, dear name here. We didn't go too far

914
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 7: outside of the lines. I'm trying not to seem jealous.

915
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 7: Do I see him jealous Chilli, I seem good. I

916
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 7: seemed like I seem like I'm not like, I don't care, right,

917
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 7: I don't think a jealous man would go Kyle November four?

918
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 7: It was like I didn't know. I mean, who could

919
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 7: have foreseen that in November four?

920
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 12: You should definitely not go to your tree stand and

921
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 12: go run a trap lane out on the moonscape and

922
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 12: the brass.

923
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 7: Guy, I can see where you're coming from on.

924
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 12: It anyway, get into a tree right now?

925
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 7: Oh look, how didn't notice that he's been rubbing? Rubbing

926
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 7: big time?

927
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: These guys need to work on their report and skills.

928
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 7: East Nebraska. Rudd is running.

929
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 2: Before after?

930
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 7: No?

931
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 2: Is it over? Oh no, it's still going. It's one

932
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,959
Speaker 2: wait before we go to the next one. I got

933
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: addendum to this one. Our buddy Pat was also out

934
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: there hunting with those guys. He got a buck as well.

935
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 2: So it's happening out.

936
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 5: There and Steve's chasing coyotes.

937
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: M hm, well now he's he's in a tree trying

938
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: to kill a deer.

939
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 2: Now, all right, back to the report. I don't think

940
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: we need to finish this one.

941
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 14: What's up, meteor Live, I'm bear newkeom coming at you

942
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 14: with a report for the Southeast. I've been hunting a

943
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 14: lot the last two weeks, and I've really seen the

944
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 14: rut activity start to pick up the last couple of days.

945
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 14: The first chase I saw was the last couple days

946
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 14: of October. But this week I've seen two big shooter

947
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 14: bucks that I haven't seen before, both chasing doze. So

948
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 14: the rut, I would say, is coming into its peak

949
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 14: over here. Next week we've got a big cold front

950
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 14: coming and so i'd imagine that that will be probably

951
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 14: the peak of the rut. But I've been seeing a

952
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 14: lot of chasing. I've seen three or four chases alone

953
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 14: this week, and the big bucks are starting to come

954
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 14: out of the woodwork. But I'm switching over from food

955
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 14: sources right now, switching more to travel corridors and other

956
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 14: pinch points, and have been having a lot of luck

957
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 14: that way. There's also a few spots where I saw

958
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 14: a lot of does in the early season, and I

959
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 14: went into one of those spots the other day and

960
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 14: instantly got in on a chase. There are three box

961
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 14: chasing one do, so the rut is in full swing.

962
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 14: If there's ever a time to be out in the woods,

963
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 14: it's right now, So good luck to all of you

964
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 14: guys who are getting out there.

965
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 15: Hello everybody, good morning from central Wisconsin, giving you a

966
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 15: little rust. Sitting at the breakfast table this morning, coming

967
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 15: up with a solid hunt plan for the next few days,

968
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 15: and I think I think we've got a good plan. Anyways,

969
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 15: what I've been seeing is a lot of the mature

970
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 15: dominant bucks have been pretty locked down on doughs, so

971
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 15: the ruts obviously happening right now. It's a good time

972
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 15: of year to be sitting all day. Once those bigger,

973
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 15: mature deer you know, get off that dough, they breeder,

974
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 15: they start looking for another one, they're going to be cruising.

975
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 7: So what I'm.

976
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 15: Focusing on is betting areas, so down wind side of

977
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 15: betting areas, pinch points between betting areas, and then also

978
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 15: in the evenings and mornings, transitions between you know, the

979
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 15: betting area and food. Wherever those doughs are going to be,

980
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 15: those bucks are going to be checking them out. So

981
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 15: be careful on the roads driving at night in Wisconsin.

982
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 15: You know, it's a hazard, so deer are running around.

983
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 15: Good luck to everybody, and I hope you get out there,

984
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 15: and I hope you shoot a big buck.

985
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: What acuting there?

986
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 4: You have?

987
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: It sounds like things are happening. Does that get you

988
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 2: real excited? You're honest?

989
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I was kind of joking about being

990
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: here for the rut report. The thing about a rut

991
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: report is like it's never gonna change because what one

992
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: person sees doesn't really make a difference. What you could

993
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: be the next ridge over, next valley over, county over,

994
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: it could be a completely different thing, just depending on

995
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: if you're where the hot dough is or not right

996
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: or Chester there has got some cool video like he's

997
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: been in them, Like they obviously have a hot dough

998
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: that these bucks are around. But like Mark, is it

999
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 1: a great podcasts with about like what science says about

1000
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: the rut? And those fawns are all they try to

1001
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: be all born, or I should say their moms all

1002
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: try to give birds sure on the same day so

1003
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: that they have the fauns have the best chance of survive.

1004
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: It's called predators.

1005
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: Well that's one reason, but the other reason too is

1006
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: that like if it's Memorial Day, which is from like Pennsylvania,

1007
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: just take that latinitude on the line across the Midwest,

1008
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: like you have the most food on the ground.

1009
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: They try to time it with the green up.

1010
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you don't want to be too early because

1011
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 1: you don't have enough food. It can you can still

1012
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: be get some cold nights and you could die when

1013
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: you're only weigh two pounds, you know, as a deer.

1014
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: And so like the peak breeding is going to always

1015
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: be sure, it just might happen at night or that

1016
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: gestation period before you know whatever that is two hundred

1017
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: some days before Memorial Day, right, So it's fun to

1018
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: hear about what people are seeing and what's happening. But

1019
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 1: every single year for the rest of our lives across

1020
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 1: like the Midwest, right like roughly November one to November fifteenth, twentieth,

1021
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be pretty good hunting.

1022
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 2: Yep.

1023
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 4: You know.

1024
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, it's it's good to know what's

1025
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: going on around some different areas.

1026
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun. Like I said, it's entertaining.

1027
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 2: It's about the hype, yep, I'm hyped the Obviously we're

1028
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: in the hard of hunting season here, so we're gonna

1029
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna share some recent crew hunt stories. No, boy, Maggie,

1030
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 2: what do you got?

1031
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I U I was zel hunting this year,

1032
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 5: and uh, I'm gonna.

1033
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: Pull up the pictures, Maggie.

1034
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: Is that not something you do every year?

1035
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 5: I mean it is. So I kind of been like

1036
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 5: year on year off for the health reasons.

1037
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 4: So like last year, I was just U I was

1038
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 4: packing out, so I was I was hunting, I just

1039
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 4: wasn't pulling the trigger because my eyeballs were messed up, right,

1040
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 4: But so yeah, this year it was my turn to

1041
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 4: pull the trigger. And we had a real slow October.

1042
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 4: We hunted every weekend in October and did not have

1043
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 4: a single opportunity to show it.

1044
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: Now, the thing about Wyoming is their rifle season starts

1045
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: like October first. Yeah, they're still rutting, you know.

1046
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 4: Well they're real high up too, and we don't have

1047
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 4: pack animals or nothing, so and I just had a

1048
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 4: general tag. So we're kind of hopping around because it's

1049
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 4: like one place will be open for a couple of

1050
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 4: weeks for bull and then another place will and so

1051
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 4: it's like sort of just hopped around for where we

1052
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 4: could hunt because I was like, you know, I'd like

1053
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 4: to shoot a bull if I can, I'd be cool.

1054
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 4: You know, It's I'm a meat hunter. But I also

1055
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 4: can't help it that I want to shoot something with horns.

1056
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 4: So I think we ended up hunting four different areas

1057
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 4: in total, and uh, this last one was like, all right,

1058
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 4: there's a cold front coming in, feeling good about it,

1059
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 4: We're gonna hunt this new spot. We were scouting out

1060
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 4: on Onyx and like we're both from the area, so

1061
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 4: we're pretty familiar with you know, where to go. It's

1062
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 4: just a matter of where there's gonna be people, where

1063
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 4: there's gonna be elk, and so uh.

1064
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: Usually there were where the people aren't.

1065
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and that was we got pretty lucky.

1066
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 4: We uh we saw these elk first thing in the morning,

1067
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 4: but it was just dumping snow and it was like

1068
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 4: they were like five hundred yards away. So we were

1069
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 4: just kind of chomping around falling tracks all day, like trying.

1070
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: To saw a bunch of elk, but then didn't go

1071
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: after them.

1072
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 4: Well we did, but they we just we kind of

1073
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 4: lost them in the timber we we were we were

1074
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 4: trying to get after him. We eventually got back to

1075
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 4: those elk. It was the same It was the same

1076
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 4: group where I shot that bull at like three o'clock

1077
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 4: that afternoon, So It was just a matter of like

1078
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 4: looping around, crawling around in some downfall hell holes, and

1079
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 4: finally coming back to an open meadow where we could

1080
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 4: get to him.

1081
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: Were you tracking him in the snow or just looking

1082
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 2: for him?

1083
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 4: It was both, and then we had a pretty good

1084
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 4: idea of where they'd be. We kind of gave him

1085
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 4: some time in the afternoon, went on a little side quest,

1086
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 4: saw some real big bull tracks, and I was getting

1087
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 4: it really excited. We were going to see a bigger elk,

1088
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 4: which we didn't, but I'm still happy to shoot little

1089
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 4: four by five elk.

1090
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 5: He's real tasty.

1091
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: Listen, those young bulls are the ones.

1092
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 5: O my gosh, young bulls. I don't think anything can

1093
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 5: top it.

1094
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: You're rolling the dice with those cows. Man, they could

1095
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: be like feen years old.

1096
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I totally.

1097
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 4: I was just explaining that to my mom, like just

1098
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 4: the other night. I was like, I don't know, I

1099
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 4: feel like I'm kind of a cougar hunter, Mom, I

1100
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 4: like the young bulls.

1101
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 5: And then oh that's Bill. That's uh, that's my bird dog.

1102
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 8: Bill.

1103
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 4: He's happy, he is, he's ready to spend some time,

1104
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 4: and he got to fetch like one duck that day.

1105
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 5: We were kind of just tramping around.

1106
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 4: It was a quick morning hunt because we had an

1107
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 4: elk to cut up that afternoon.

1108
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 5: Uh, we just wanted to get him out.

1109
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 4: So Bill is happy to get some elk scraps and

1110
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 4: happy to be be the star of the show from

1111
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 4: here on out.

1112
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 5: Nice work, Maggie, Thanks, it was a fun hunt. Oh

1113
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 5: I forgot.

1114
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 4: I brought you guys a little treat milk jerky from

1115
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 4: my bowl. But I've been told it is not a

1116
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 4: fun auditory experience to listen to people eat jerky.

1117
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: I eat jerky and tell my hunting stories at the

1118
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: same time.

1119
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 5: We'll save it for after the show.

1120
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: But uh, I mean, I don't give a show I'm

1121
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: looking for.

1122
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to trying.

1123
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 4: If you haven't tried, uh, Danielle Prue Its smoked venison

1124
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 4: jerky recipes.

1125
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: It's heavy on the smoke.

1126
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 4: It's uh it's my go to favorite and it's it's

1127
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 4: worth trying out.

1128
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 5: I tweak it a little bit, but we'll try.

1129
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 2: It here in a few minutes. Yeah, your honest letters

1130
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: hungry all right.

1131
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: I started with this first slide because, uh, it turns

1132
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: out this is my biggest bull to date. Bow or rifle. Yeah, Yehnie,

1133
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: and UH didn't really know what I had until I

1134
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: walked upon him and found him. Uh so, yeah, that's

1135
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: exciting Corey. Uh, it's taped him for me the other day,

1136
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: three ten inches on the dot. He's pretty stoked. Next

1137
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: picture shows Uh, speaking of eating bulls, the backstrap was

1138
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: very surprised. I've actually sort of reorganized my freezer and

1139
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: my plant because I've got a lot of meat this year, caribou, deer,

1140
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: lots of deer with the kids shooting deer, this bull,

1141
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: and I was gonna give away a lot of elk steaks,

1142
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: but this bull is eating extremely well, Like even the

1143
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: hind quarter steaks have been very tender, just delicious. So

1144
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm actually starting to hoard this bull's meat a little

1145
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: bit more.

1146
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: Well you can like you can keep that Like people

1147
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: think it's like a year, Like you could be eating

1148
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 2: that bull three years from now.

1149
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, for sure. Let's see. Next there's a

1150
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: buck of gott in Idaho. Whatever. Nice buck.

1151
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 2: Fun hunt.

1152
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: What made it super fun was hanging out with our

1153
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: buddy Max Barda, who you can see in the next photo.

1154
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, we had We had an awesome tent site

1155
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: where you could literally glass for bucks right out of

1156
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: the tent door. S Yeah, there was a little bit

1157
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: of snow up high and it was not That was

1158
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: kind of probably the last camping trip of the year.

1159
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 4: You know.

1160
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: We got to spend three nights on the mountain.

1161
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 2: Packed some pizza in there.

1162
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we made we made a pit stop on

1163
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: the drive down and we were having some pizza and

1164
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, let's add a uh, let's

1165
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: add a few more slices to this order and then

1166
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: we can have some in the mountains. So we packed

1167
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: some up in the into the mountains with us, and uh, yeah,

1168
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: it was great to share a week with Max. All right,

1169
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: here's here's the exciting stuff. Here's youth hunt with my daughters.

1170
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: We are three hundred fifty yards maybe a little bit

1171
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: less from a betted buck. Mabel was the one to

1172
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: be shooting. Mabel laid there on that on that buck

1173
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: for nine hours. We got there on to that spot

1174
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: right there at ten am. That buck never stood up.

1175
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: We yelled at it. Aina, my other daughter shot bullets

1176
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: ten feet long. Nine hours really ten ten to What

1177
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: time did you get dark out there?

1178
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 2: I don't think it was that like but a lot. Yeah,

1179
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: eight hours maybe.

1180
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: Well ten to six would be eight. I guess, all right,

1181
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: eight hours.

1182
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 5: Long time and she's like staring through the scope.

1183
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, on a bettered buck. And the one thing Brody

1184
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: later told me I should have tried is to I

1185
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: didn't have with me. But I'll get to that fawn

1186
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: and distress that. Oh Brody's gonna talk about it anyways.

1187
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. The next slide shows that when you're waiting

1188
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: for eight hours on a buck, it takes some masks.

1189
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: My girls have become extremely good at napping because they're

1190
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: both napping. I'm like, who's watching the deer? To stand

1191
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: up you?

1192
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 7: So?

1193
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: Did you guys have the sun? I'll gladly do it.

1194
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 2: Did that sun get behind you? Like you weren't having

1195
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 2: to stare into the sun to watch that buck? No,

1196
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 2: that's good.

1197
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: No, No, we're looking kind of doo east actually, so

1198
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: I got behind us for sure. And then let's see,

1199
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: was that it for all my pictures?

1200
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 4: That was it?

1201
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 10: That was it?

1202
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: Okay? Oh well, I was gonna mention last night Mabel,

1203
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: who did not get a shot off that day. We

1204
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: went on a hunt last night to a very target

1205
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: rich environment not far from Bosman a lot of white

1206
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: tail deer, she kind of I asked her. I thought

1207
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: this was a clever answer. I said, are you gonna

1208
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: shoot the first box that comes out? Which I thought

1209
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: she would say, yes, you know, to be successful, put

1210
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: some meat down. She goes, uh, depends on what he

1211
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: looks like. So then we had to look over. We

1212
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: had to look over. We literally saw more deer yesterday

1213
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: than I'll see on on my entire Wisconsin hunt. I mean,

1214
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. We saw probably close to one hundred

1215
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: white tail deer and multiple bucks that we were like, okay,

1216
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: too small, small to medium, two medium, little, getting a

1217
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: little bit better than we finally got. We saw a

1218
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: few that were like big enough and they the one

1219
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: big enough buck came to us, got to within two hundred,

1220
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: like with twenty minutes of light left, and we were

1221
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: like safety off, ready to shoot him. And that sucker

1222
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: had been feeding all evening, not running doughs, nothing up

1223
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: until that point, like just out of range. And then

1224
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: once he like came into range within the doors, he

1225
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: just got full on ruddy and he would not stand

1226
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: still long enough for an eleven year old to make

1227
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: the shop and It was funny because I was like

1228
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: talking her through the whole time. I'm like, Okay, he's

1229
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: the one facing left, he's the one facing right, he's

1230
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: running right. He's got dough behind him now, And all

1231
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: the time she's like, yeah, okay, I'm on this. I'm

1232
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: on the right buck. I'm on the right buck. Okay,

1233
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: he's got a dough going right to left behind him. Yep,

1234
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm on the buck. I'm on the buck. And then

1235
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: as light was fading and they were getting a little

1236
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: bit farther away from us, I could like hear her

1237
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: answers and her voice starting to crack a little bit,

1238
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: as in like, oh, I know it's not gonna happen tonight.

1239
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm going home, bucklest I gotta tell the story about

1240
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: not shooting one. And then multiple times she's like I

1241
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: think I'm looking at him, but there's also some grass

1242
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: and like I want to be sure, And I'm like, yeah,

1243
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: you can't shoot if you're not sure. You know, you

1244
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: gotta be sure, And so we had that a bunch.

1245
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: So anyways, it's like, it would have been great to

1246
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: kill a buck last night, But at the same time,

1247
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, she's killed I guess she's only killed one

1248
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: other bucks. She's got three dollars. Now, it's all been

1249
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 1: pretty easy form, right. It's good to have a couple

1250
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: of hunts where she's just having to work for it

1251
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: and not have just success just laid in her lap.

1252
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 2: Again, Definitely, definitely she'll get one this season. I guess

1253
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: that leads me, Phil, Can you pull up the antelope

1254
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 2: one first? This is my kid Hayden. This was opening

1255
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 2: day of antelope season. The reason like, he shot an antelope, four,

1256
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 2: he shot bucks, he shot a elk, like the kids

1257
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 2: killed some animals. The reason I'm showing this picture is

1258
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 2: because this year I kind of decided I was going

1259
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: to let him make most of the the decisions, like

1260
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 2: on how the hunt went. And it started like at

1261
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: first light, like we were parked on a high spot

1262
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: on a road to glass as you do for antelope,

1263
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 2: and I was like, let's check what would be the

1264
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 2: north side of the road, because we had in the

1265
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 2: passing a lot of antelope in that zone. And he's like, no,

1266
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 2: we should glass the south side of the road first,

1267
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 2: because pretty soon we will be staring into the sun

1268
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 2: over there and we won't be able to glass it.

1269
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 2: I was like, man, kid's got a point. So we

1270
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 2: like hike in in low ways, get on a knob,

1271
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 2: start classing, and he found five antelope like within minutes,

1272
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 2: and I was like, it's great. There's a like I

1273
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 2: couldn't I couldn't tell if like with my eyes and

1274
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: it wasn't like quite you know, light light yet if

1275
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 2: there was a buck or not. But he's and he's

1276
01:06:55,800 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 2: just freehanding a pair of those Siga image State one.

1277
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 2: He's like one of us buck like cool. But and

1278
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 2: I was like, we can't. There's like no way we

1279
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 2: can't go straight at him, like they're gonna see us,

1280
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 2: you know. So I'm like, what do you think we

1281
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 2: should do? And he's looking around and he picks a

1282
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 2: route like a circular, you know, half circle route around

1283
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 2: like sounds good to me. And we kind of eventually

1284
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: get up into that zone near where they were. We

1285
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 2: had a little like pointy like dirt mound kind of

1286
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 2: thing we're using as a landmark, and man, we got

1287
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: in there and it's just like where are they? Because

1288
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 2: you get in that antelope stuff and it's broken and

1289
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 2: there you realize that they were in a low spot.

1290
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 2: You couldn't really tell from the road. And We're sitting

1291
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 2: there for a while and I was like, man, I

1292
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: think we should like creep forward like fifty yards and

1293
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 2: get a look into that low spot. He's like, no,

1294
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 2: let's stay here. Sure enough, a few minutes later, we

1295
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 2: see some ears and some horns and uh. Eventually they

1296
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 2: feed up out of that low spot and I'm like

1297
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 2: two fifty and you know, he took care of everything else.

1298
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 2: It was cool because it was like, really like his

1299
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: hunt for the Yeah, for the first time.

1300
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like from the at least the details that

1301
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: you shared that you might just want to let him

1302
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: continue to do that, start guiding you a little bit,

1303
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: look in.

1304
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 2: The right direction, exactly exactly.

1305
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: I like that you are doing that with him, because

1306
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 1: I told both my girls too. At the end of

1307
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,879
Speaker 1: this year's youth Hunt, I'm like, next year, I'm not glassing.

1308
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in glass because I like the glass, and

1309
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh, I see some bucks.

1310
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 2: Find them.

1311
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm like, you guys are gonna have to

1312
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: find them, yeah, because otherwise they just like they like

1313
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: to hang out while dad's glassing up the critters. Yeah,

1314
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 1: and now I'm gonna I'm gonna make them find the

1315
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: fine deer.

1316
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 2: Yep, we can do the next one there, Phil, all right,

1317
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 2: that's my younger son.

1318
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 4: Uh.

1319
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 2: This year he turned ten, so he first year he's

1320
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 2: able to hunt in Montana. And you know, same thing,

1321
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 2: youth hunt. We do a youth hunt together a group

1322
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 2: of us, and this was opening morning, and he definitely

1323
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: wasn't like looking for my other kid was looking for

1324
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 2: a big one, the one that got the antelope. But Conley,

1325
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 2: the younger one, was like any buck. And we went

1326
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: kind of in a zone we had hunted in years past,

1327
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 2: and his brother was a little bummed because that was

1328
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 2: like his brother's zone. But just me and Conley went

1329
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 2: in there and it was windy and cold that morning.

1330
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: He was suffering a little bit while while we're glassing around,

1331
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 2: and things calmed down, like maybe an hour after shooting

1332
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: l like eight thirty, it kind of got a little warmer,

1333
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 2: the wind calmed down, and I glassed up two little

1334
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 2: teeny bucks, like one of them might have been a forky,

1335
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 2: the other one was probably a spike. But it was like,

1336
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: all right, it's on, let's go, And we had to

1337
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 2: kind of hustle down this drainage to get into shooting position,

1338
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 2: and these two bucks were like oblivious to what was

1339
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 2: going on. We were out in the open and they

1340
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 2: just weren't looking our direction. And I got conly set

1341
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 2: up for a cross candying shot that was a little

1342
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 2: over three hundred, and you know, get him. He's laying down,

1343
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 2: he's shooting off a bipod and kaboom, Like I say,

1344
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 2: are you steady? All that stuff. We go through the

1345
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 2: whole thing and he lets one fly and misses, and

1346
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 2: one of the bucks continues to stand there. The other

1347
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,560
Speaker 2: one runs. I was pretty sure he had missed, but

1348
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 2: the other one ran in a way that I was like,

1349
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 2: we got a check. We went down there and he's like,

1350
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 2: can I shoot it the other one? It's like, nobody,

1351
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 2: We got to make sure you didn't hit the first one.

1352
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 2: So we went in there and we spent a good

1353
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,759
Speaker 2: thirty to forty five minutes looking for blood and hair nothing,

1354
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 2: and he was down man like bummed out first first opportunity.

1355
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:12,759
Speaker 2: He was definitely like bummed, like no tears, but like close,

1356
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 2: you know. And I was like, man, we gotta both

1357
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 2: hold it together and just go find another one. And

1358
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: an hour later we found a buck betted down and

1359
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 2: the train laid out nicely for us to get set up,

1360
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 2: but it was still three hundred yards and he was

1361
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: bedded like on a timbered hillside. And I forgot to

1362
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 2: mention that. Earlier that morning, when we had first sat

1363
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 2: down to start glassing, we'd heard some like hooting and

1364
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 2: hollering way off in the distance, and well, Conley was like,

1365
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 2: is that a coyote? And I was like, man, I

1366
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 2: don't like I think it was people. And the first

1367
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 2: thing that came to mind is like, there might be

1368
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 2: some cowboys in here, because there's cattle in the area

1369
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: we're hunting. Anyway, we're laid down on this buck. He

1370
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 2: dry fires on it a couple times, like he's comfortable,

1371
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 2: he's solid, everything's looking good. And I tell him, like,

1372
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 2: we might have to lay here for a while, you know,

1373
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 2: before he stands up and he's cool with it. And

1374
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: then we hear that hooting and hollering again, and I

1375
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 2: look off that direction and maybe a thousand yards away,

1376
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 2: here comes two cowboys with a couple of dogs pushing

1377
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 2: some cows, and I like know that zone well enough

1378
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 2: to know where they are, that that cattle trail is

1379
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 2: going to go right under that buck, like right under him,

1380
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,600
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my god, really, like what do

1381
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 2: we do here? And I told Conley, I was like,

1382
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 2: we can lay here and see if that buck just

1383
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: lets them go underneath him and nothing happens, which and

1384
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: I was like, I think the buck's gonna spook because

1385
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna get too close to him. Or I can

1386
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: hit this fond this fond bleat real loud a couple

1387
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 2: times and try and get him to stand up. There's

1388
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 2: a chance like he could run, but there's a good

1389
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 2: chance he'll stand up. And he didn't even think about it.

1390
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 2: He's like hit the bond bleek like I don't want

1391
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: the horses running underneath that deer.

1392
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:12,560
Speaker 1: And I did it.

1393
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 2: The buck stood up. I was like, are you solid aim,

1394
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 2: you know? And ten seconds later, boom he kills the buck.

1395
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 5: Nice yeah, And then like.

1396
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 2: The cowboys were out of sight. They had to cross

1397
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 2: this draw. But I was like, Conley, we're gonna like

1398
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 2: walk over that direction and talk to him before we

1399
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: go look for your buck. And we went over there

1400
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 2: as young couple, very nice. I was like, you know,

1401
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 2: he just shot. They're like we heard the shot. Hope

1402
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 2: you get I mean, and then the guy's like, did

1403
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 2: you see any cows down the hill? I was like, yeah,

1404
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 2: there's a bunch down there. So they just took off

1405
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 2: and look for their cows. We went up there and

1406
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 2: found the buck and it was all smiles. You know,

1407
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 2: it's fun.

1408
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: Heck, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was fired up.

1409
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. All right, thanks for listening to our stories, guys.

1410
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 2: It's always fun to fun to talk hunting. We're gonna

1411
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 2: move on to the cookbook box set contest here. If

1412
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: you don't know about this thing, can you see that thing, Phil,

1413
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 2: I'll move it over there we go. If you don't

1414
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 2: know about this is like a special edition, kind of

1415
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 2: limited run. We didn't print a million of these things.

1416
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 2: It's got both of our cookbooks in it, the original

1417
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 2: Media to Cookbook, Fishing Game Cookbook and the Outdoor Cookbook,

1418
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 2: their paperback, which is kind of nice. You can fit

1419
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 2: them both in there. It's a really good Christmas gift. Uh,

1420
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 2: pretty economical way to get both of them. You can

1421
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: pre order them now if you really want to. They

1422
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: go on sale next Tuesday. If you want a signed

1423
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 2: copy like this, when we've got a limited number of them,

1424
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 2: that only available on the website or you can you

1425
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 2: can our two retail locations in Bozeman and Milwaukee also

1426
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 2: have some, so you could pick one up there, but

1427
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 2: not until Tuesday when the book releases. You got anything

1428
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 2: to say, you honest about like these two cookbooks? Making

1429
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 2: of them? What you think about favorite meals, recipes, anything

1430
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 2: like that.

1431
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: There are a lot of fun to make. Yeah, it's

1432
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 1: always a fun project. Yeah, especially because we plan them

1433
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: not in the hunting season, which is smart of us.

1434
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 2: Yep, get to eat a lot of food.

1435
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: The one I keep going back to in the original

1436
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: cookbook is the fish stew.

1437
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1438
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: I love that recipe. We got a bunch of hal

1439
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 1: but now which tends.

1440
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 7: To do very well.

1441
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 2: Is it a chowder? I can't remember. Yeah, I mean

1442
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 2: it's kind of one of the same and well, no,

1443
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 2: it's doing chowder are the same thing?

1444
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 5: I think chowder is like creamy yeah?

1445
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's got creamy yeah yeah. I feel like

1446
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: we call it fish stew in the book. Anyways, Yeah,

1447
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 1: no matter, get the book, try it out. It's a

1448
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: good one.

1449
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 5: Is the recipe in there?

1450
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah? The original is the original that started a

1451
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,759
Speaker 2: nationwide osubuko movement.

1452
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 5: I feel like, yeah, save your damn shanks, folks.

1453
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 2: Yep, drown that thing in some red wine for several

1454
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, yeah, they're They're both great a lot of

1455
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 2: like the original for like Beginner Hunters, Wild Game Chefs

1456
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 2: like it's got great butcher and tips, fantastic butcher and tips.

1457
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:41,520
Speaker 2: The Outdoor cookbooks got some great like gear and equipment information.

1458
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: You love them.

1459
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 2: But let's move on, philed to see if we can

1460
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 2: actually pick a winner.

1461
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, I'm just gonna rapid fire through a bunch

1462
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 3: of these and then you guys just kind of flag

1463
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 3: them in your head. By far the most the answer

1464
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 3: that came up the most was that my my wife

1465
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 3: or my girlfriend thinks my cooking is terrible and this

1466
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 3: would help me. There were so many of those that

1467
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 3: I don't think I picked any of them. You guys,

1468
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 3: step up your game.

1469
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are gonna have to buy this thing. Sorry, yeah, sorry,

1470
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 2: let's see.

1471
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just gonna run through these, welcome, says Brodie.

1472
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 3: If I win, I will put the recipes into the

1473
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:18,759
Speaker 3: fall menu of the kitchen I manage?

1474
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:20,879
Speaker 5: Is that a copyright?

1475
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 7: All?

1476
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1477
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 2: That was gonna be my next question. Also you can't

1478
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 2: do that with Wild Game if it's like a restaurant kitchen.

1479
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure he's just talking about the recipes anyway.

1480
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 2: Okay, yeh, that's gonna be ay.

1481
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 3: Ben says, need a new recipe for my tag tag

1482
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 3: soups getting a little stale. Kevin says, my seven year

1483
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 3: old daughter's favorite show to watch together as a mediator

1484
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 3: in your favorite way of helping in the kitchen is

1485
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 3: cooking Wild Game with me. Having these cookbooks would give

1486
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 3: us infinite memory getting better mogre our, Dude, why should

1487
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 3: I win this book because I've already cleared shelf space

1488
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 3: and trained my cat to turn pages. I don't win,

1489
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 3: I'll be forced to read cereal boxes again. Don't let

1490
01:17:59,360 --> 01:17:59,719
Speaker 3: that happen.

1491
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 2: Where live like shipping this thing to him?

1492
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 3: It could be expensive, let's see, Brian says, contingency plan

1493
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,759
Speaker 3: for acquiring the cookbook filled you accept bribes?

1494
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 2: My venmo is Phil Taylor six. Let's see it won't

1495
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 2: chair his video game handle those? Yeah?

1496
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 3: Duh, Ethan, anytime I cook Wild Game, I truly feel

1497
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 3: like I'm disrespecting my harvest unless I'm using one of

1498
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 3: Stee's recipes. No, others come close. Just ask my wife

1499
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 3: how many times I've said this.

1500
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 2: They like, that's sucking up a little bit. Yeah, a

1501
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 2: little bit.

1502
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 3: Uh speaking of sucking up or well that sounds mean

1503
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna read it.

1504
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 9: Uh.

1505
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 3: Ritzman says, I'm a young adult who recently got married,

1506
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 3: had my first baby, and I'm hunting, butchering and cooking

1507
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 3: solo for the first time in my life. And then

1508
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 3: he's got a part two. My dad was my mentor

1509
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 3: for years, but a devastating shattered pelvis left left him

1510
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 3: unable to keep up the tradition. The cookbooks would be

1511
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 3: one more arrow in my quiver and bringing the hunt

1512
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 3: tradition in to my family. Another one from Brian, He

1513
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,560
Speaker 3: says ax Barta would want the cookbook to go to

1514
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 3: his favorite native North Dakota.

1515
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:03,719
Speaker 2: Brian.

1516
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 3: When Max wins a game of trivia, I will send

1517
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 3: you so many cookbooks.

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Speaker 2: There you go. To be honest, you're getting excited about

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01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 2: any of these? Not really?

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01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, apologies, I flagged the flagged the ones that that

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01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 3: that's jumped out to me.

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01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 1: Remember Brody, I was looking for entertainment, I know, entertaining.

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01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 3: But there's a guy named Adam who has been just

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01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 3: typing out verses from the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

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01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 3: and replacing random words with cookbook. I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: select yours, Adam, but you're gonna love the Meat Eater

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Speaker 3: podcast on Monday.

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01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,560
Speaker 2: Stay tuned, Phil, We gotta find a winner here. This

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01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 2: is dragging on too.

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01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 3: Listen, you guys. You guys can can jump into the chat. Honestly,

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01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 3: out of all of them. When Mogors popped up, I

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01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 3: was like, I thought that he would just take it

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01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 3: because it was funny.

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01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 2: We love Mogor.

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01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get it. We'll ship it to me.

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Speaker 5: There was one that kind of made me laugh, but

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01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 5: it was just how it was written, and it's this is.

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01:19:58,760 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 2: My favorite one.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not going to put on the screen because

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01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 3: of the profanity, but I will read it and censor it.

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01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 3: Steven says cookbook. I don't want or deserve no stinking cookbook,

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01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 3: but an fed up truck calendar that I deserve. I

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01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 3: deserved an f up anything for that matter. That's from Steven.

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01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 2: All right, well, let's do this. Mogor gets the book

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01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 2: and Steven gets the calendar.

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01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 1: Sounds good too.

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01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 2: How's that? No, Mogor send uh, don't send your address

1548
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 2: and stuff to me, send it to.

1549
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 3: Like the radio at the meat eater dot com, which

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01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 3: is the correct email address.

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01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 2: There we go. All right, we got any other like comments.

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01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 3: But I've got a plane to catch soon, so let's

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01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 3: wrap this baby up.

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01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 2: How about that? All right, we'll shut you guys down.

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01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 3: We'll have I mean, this is already on the longer

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Speaker 3: side of the show.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next week. Thank you, Thanks everybody for

1558
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,560
Speaker 2: tuning in and get out there in the woods of

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01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 2: the ruts on take it easy.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys. Bite