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Speaker 1: Lisa Lambinelli is not a licensed therapist or life coach.

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Speaker 1: She is a meddling advice giving yanta. I know it all,

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Speaker 1: and her words come from her head, her heart, and

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Speaker 1: often out of her ass. This podcast should not be

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Speaker 1: misconstrued as therapy. I should be taking with a huge

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Speaker 2: These You need help, you're the problems.

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Speaker 3: Come on, come down.

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Speaker 2: Go leam, take a pill. I think you're insane. Do

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Speaker 2: what I say, dumb ass, listen to me. You Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 2: it's Lisa Lambinelli, un drength. This the podcast everyone's not

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Speaker 2: talking about.

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Speaker 3: No one's listening to.

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Speaker 2: We're back because people were so sad when season one ended.

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Speaker 2: They say, hey, girl, can you at least give us

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Speaker 3: And I said, yes I can. So I am back.

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Speaker 2: I am choosing one letter from every episode of the

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Speaker 2: podcast and we are either revisiting it or it's a

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Speaker 2: letter we completely fucking ignored. And to help me with

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Speaker 2: this lovely task is my dear friend Chris O'Neil.

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Speaker 3: Say it though, Chris. Everybody's yeah, it's fine.

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Speaker 2: Chris on Chris oh Show on Instagram and all over

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Speaker 2: the Tika taka. Chris, let me ask you something. Are

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Speaker 2: you a good apologizer?

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Speaker 4: I am? I really do you think I am?

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Speaker 2: Are you a guy who apologizes though and doesn't need to?

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Speaker 4: Probably? Yeah, it's a part of the knee jerk reaction thing,

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Speaker 4: But I feel like the older I've gotten, the more

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I'll embrace when I fuck up and like,

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Speaker 4: why why fight it? I'm like, I apologize, I messed up.

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Speaker 4: I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't have said that.

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Speaker 4: I shouldn't, you know, come in and sing Phil Collins

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Speaker 4: when you're trying to sleep, Yeah, don't do that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: things like that.

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Speaker 2: I could feel it coming in the air tonight. You're

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Speaker 2: an easy lover, because we did an episode a few

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Speaker 2: months back called sorry, not sorry, but actually sorry, because

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Speaker 2: people seem to have trouble knowing, okay, figuring out should

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Speaker 2: they preemptively apologize for something because they think the person's

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Speaker 2: mad or is it the person who's mad's responsibility to

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Speaker 2: come to them and say, I'd like an apology. That's

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Speaker 2: really tough because I say so much bad stuff that

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Speaker 2: I feel like I should absolutely apologize for things, and

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Speaker 2: then the person's forgotten about it. And the thing we

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Speaker 2: talked about in this episode was I have a student

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Speaker 2: and we didn't use his real name. We just called

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Speaker 2: him Houston from Texas who I thought I had hurt

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Speaker 2: his feelings and I tortured myself about it for a

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Speaker 2: week ends up. He didn't even remember what I said

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Speaker 2: to him, didn't think it was an insult anyway. Turns

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Speaker 2: out I tortured myself for a week for nothing. So

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes we just have to like apologize and

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Speaker 4: Rip the bandit off because it helps you out too.

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Speaker 4: It's it's kind of like you know, you're not gonna know,

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Speaker 4: and you're just gonna spin the wheel in the least.

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Speaker 2: The less time spinning the better. Like we're just wasting

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Speaker 2: all that energy. So let us revisit a letter that

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Speaker 2: has to do with that episode. Can you read that

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Speaker 2: for us, Chris, because from what I hear you act

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Speaker 2: tours are very good readers.

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Speaker 4: Me. God, I hate my voice suddenly. I just hear myself.

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Speaker 4: I don't even have headphones.

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Speaker 3: Would you just apologize for your ice.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry for every one of those ears that are

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Speaker 4: bleeding out there all a bit. Here we go, baby, yeah,

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Speaker 4: hear Lisa, A close friend is turning forty in April

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Speaker 4: and inviting me and five other girls to celebrate with

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Speaker 4: her in Turks and Caicos.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, let me just stop, Chris, what a scenario

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Speaker 2: that is? You know does That's like the worst thing

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Speaker 4: It sounds like the beginning of a good movie.

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Speaker 2: You porn but subscriber, you let me just say, how

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Speaker 4: Her friend is turning forty?

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Speaker 3: This is my problem.

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Speaker 2: Here's my problem with all these people. Stop acting like

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Speaker 2: your birthday is a big deal to anybody but you.

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Speaker 2: Once you get over the age of twelve, suck it up, Buttercup,

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Speaker 3: Ooh it is my birthday month. And also you have

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Speaker 2: But I was like, just stop it, Like, yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 2: these birthday trips, they always think it's gonna be fun,

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be tragic. Let us hear more.

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Speaker 4: Yes, uh so she was gonna go with five other

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Speaker 4: The idea of getting trashed for five nights sounds awful,

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Speaker 4: and I'd rather be home with my family. She did

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Speaker 4: celebrate my fortieth with me, but it was only a

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Speaker 4: I told her I wasn't going. Should I apologize? I

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Speaker 4: a trip like that is a lot to ask. Thanks

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Speaker 2: Man, I hate those kind of trips.

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Speaker 4: It's a big ask. That's not dude, are you paying

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Speaker 2: That's the thing too, Like there's so many factors. Someone

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Speaker 3: See I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what you're little money problems. But sometimes

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Speaker 2: people have these limits. And the girl's argument, the one

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Speaker 2: who's party it is, it's like apples don't equal oranges, babe,

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Speaker 4: Look, grow up, she can't go. She can't, doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: what her reason. And she was just like, nah, I

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Speaker 4: I can't I can't go, I wish I could. Whatever

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Speaker 2: He was so cool about it because he goes, look

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Speaker 3: We're going to go. He was, I'm personally.

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Speaker 2: Going, I think for four days. He goes, come up

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Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, he's being so

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Speaker 3: I went for two days and it was a blast.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, being an adult, just being considering going. You know what,

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Speaker 4: Like it's if you can't make it, you can't make it.

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Speaker 4: Because when you hear that, you go, what a great person.

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Speaker 4: That's so nice of you to make me feel because

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Speaker 4: I feel guilty and all these feelings and you're alleviating that.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm going to try even harder to make it

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Speaker 3: It does.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like with our students because we teach together

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Speaker 2: at That's College. The more grateful they are, the more

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Speaker 2: you want to help them absolutely.

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Speaker 3: So it's almost with with with students.

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Speaker 2: I don't even feel like the more talented they are,

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Speaker 2: that's always nice, but the more they are like oh

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Speaker 2: my god, thank you. I really appreciate your help. You're like,

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Speaker 2: So if this woman, yes, I guess she's a little hurt.

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Speaker 2: If she was just more understanding and they could come

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Speaker 2: isn't that what's important is that they don't have to

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Speaker 3: And the boat ride.

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Speaker 4: I got to tell you, since having kids and my wife,

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Speaker 4: I don't it's not going to be better than this

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Speaker 4: totally get what she's saying. That's a big ass to

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Speaker 4: there's honestly no comparison, and I think if you don't

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Speaker 2: I also think that if she ended up saying yes

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Speaker 2: by the tone of the letter, it's not the first

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Speaker 4: I think she's being cold to her. It's like grow up.

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Speaker 3: I agree. I think it's almost like she's Oh.

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Speaker 4: That's her.

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Speaker 3: They never let up.

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Speaker 4: Get it? You're turning twenty?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's part of you, dumb bit.

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Speaker 2: No. But like I just think too, maybe there's been

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Speaker 2: built up. Maybe this is like the last thing that

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Speaker 2: this girl said no to. Maybe she resents the fact

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Speaker 2: that she always stays home, so talk about it, get

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Speaker 3: Have the tough conversations. I've made a public on here.

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Speaker 2: I've had seven hour conversations with people to get through

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Speaker 2: an issue, just to make sure the friendship gets stronger.

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Speaker 2: And if if you don't discuss it, you're not gonna

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Speaker 2: see what's really underneath it. Because I don't think it's

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: There's something going on she said no to too many things,

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Speaker 4: And Shan, you can tell she's already thinking about like, well,

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Speaker 4: I mean, she came to my dinner, but my dinner

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Speaker 4: said she's doing what I do. Where you go, you

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Speaker 4: start to like you have a whole courtroom scene in

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Speaker 4: your head. You're like, well, you're on her. She came

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Speaker 4: to her dinner, but it was only a dinner. And

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Speaker 4: then she wants you to go to another country. And

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Speaker 4: this is like, I'm on Shannon's side. I think her

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Speaker 4: too any one birthday, grow up. Your friend has a family,

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Speaker 4: it's a lot of money. It's was it five days

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Speaker 4: or whatever it is? That sounds fun. And if you're

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Speaker 4: other responsibilities and stuff like that, if she can't do it,

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Speaker 4: give her a break.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 2: But also with this, Shannon, what was her last sentence?

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Speaker 2: Should I apologize?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I feel like I should be able to say no,

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, real quick? She goes, but it was only

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Speaker 4: a dinner at a right nice restaurant. She's been cold

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Speaker 4: and I told her I wasn't going. Should I apologize?

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Speaker 2: I think there's nothing wrong with her apologizing. Yes, she clearly,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, did nothing wrong. Taking care of yourself

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Speaker 2: and putting yourself first is never wrong. But there's a

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Speaker 2: way to apologize. I'm sorry that I can't go because

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Speaker 2: of financial reasons. I'm sorry. Don't ever do the i'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: If I'm sorry that I disappointed you, I know it

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Speaker 2: must feel bad that all your friends can't show up

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Speaker 2: for this, and unfortunately I'm in that position. So that

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Speaker 2: might open a dialogue. I'm sorry might be the gateway

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Speaker 4: Can't you get to the finish line if you don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the hell analogy I was going there, but.

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Speaker 2: You know, trying for sports and clearly you're a theater guy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right, there's no way, there's no way you are.

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Speaker 3: Were you ever a sports guy?

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Speaker 4: By that?

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Speaker 3: I was what? Oh I watch this. I'm sorry I

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Speaker 3: assumed you were just a gay.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to love an easy once you I played soccer,

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Speaker 4: So there you are.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's really easy because a lot of gays play.

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Speaker 3: Soccer, including Ronaldo. So here's our.

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Speaker 2: Piece of advice to you, Shannon, is it.

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Speaker 4: Shannon Shannon from Savannah?

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Speaker 3: Shannon from Savannah. Say you're sorry.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you say and I'm sorry even when you don't

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Speaker 2: mean it, because you're actually sorry. You're disappointing her, or

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Speaker 2: else you wouldn't have written the letter.

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Speaker 4: She's being the bigger person because she's really taking it

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Speaker 4: to heart and looking at both sides.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, apologize.

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Speaker 2: Just say I'm sorry that I can't go, because maybe

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Speaker 2: that's actually true. Find and I'm sorry that you can

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Speaker 2: live with I'm sorry I can't go. I'm sorry I

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Speaker 2: did disappointed you. So there's a way around it where

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Speaker 2: you're not selling your soul.

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Speaker 4: It was a fun trip, though she did call me instead, so.

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Speaker 2: That is good man. You got your tits out, sure

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Speaker 2: did you did. Speaking of which, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: Chris Oh for helping us with this little cold over

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Speaker 2: tit beat on, Shrink.

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