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Speaker 1: up down Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces?

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Speaker 1: here's Paul Calvic. Alright, So right off the top here, guys,

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Speaker 1: I thought i'd let you guys know that there aren't

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Speaker 1: on our Cardinals. But when it comes to shoulder injuries,

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Speaker 1: I'm currently dealing with one as we speak. And if

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Speaker 1: we get around to Chandler Jones, it was only a

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Speaker 1: few years ago that actually had surgery on Christmas Eve

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Speaker 1: morning for a torn bicep tendon. So just in case

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Speaker 1: that happens to come up, KYLEO to guard or Darren Urban,

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Speaker 1: I'm here to field any and all questions. I feel

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Speaker 1: pretty qualified for once, did you hurt yourself patting yourself

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Speaker 1: on the back too much? Paul? You know that was

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Speaker 1: a rotator cuff injury I suffered with the other arm

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Speaker 1: this podcast every week. Oh yeah, that is true. I've

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Speaker 1: recovered from that one that was a rotator cuff. This

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Speaker 1: is more of what I do believe is an AC

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Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about my air conditioning. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about my AC joint in my shoulder here, Kyle. So

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Speaker 1: it was okay, I know you want to ask. I'll

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Speaker 1: just let you know. I've started my own poly pandemic

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Speaker 1: workout that involves some pull ups. In about two weeks

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Speaker 1: So there you go. That's that's that's that's a classic

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Speaker 1: story right off the top. So you know what, I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling the pain of Kyler Murray right now, which is

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Speaker 1: a really long way to go to bring up Kyler

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Speaker 1: in the shoulder injury. Yeah. So when people say you

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Speaker 1: don't have anything in common with professional athletes, and you

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Speaker 1: can say you get hurt too, that's right right in

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Speaker 1: this case, I'm a dominded of American. But as we know,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty is not just two twenty, it is the

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Speaker 1: throw that out there. Now, here's the deal. I want

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Speaker 1: to know based on what you guys have seen at practice, man,

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Speaker 1: just a little bit of practice, but based on that

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Speaker 1: and the tone of those who've been speaking about the injury,

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Speaker 1: Kyler most importantly, but also as head coach, because we

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Speaker 1: had a chance to do Cliff Kingsbury's weekly TV show

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Speaker 1: game Plan and Darren, I mean, you have years of

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Speaker 1: that's happened. You already know he's probably out for me.

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Speaker 1: The fact that Kyler got hurt very early in that

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Speaker 1: But it's just a different offense. We saw it in

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm amazed because Kyle, there's so much more

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Speaker 1: been a deep dish Chicago pizza after a certain Bears

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Speaker 1: road trip that I smuggled onto a charter. There might

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Speaker 1: have been that was to go. That's about you know,

431
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Speaker 1: it's about as far as I got, really, at least

432
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 1: as far as I'm willing to admit. Hole. My eccentric

433
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 1: uncle one time flew down from Chicago to Arizona and

434
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: just brought a baseball bat and no suitcase, nothing. I

435
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: was a kid. I didn't know about it, but it's, uh,

436
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: it's family lore at this point that all he did

437
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 1: was bring a baseball bat. Was that was that post

438
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: nine to eleven? No way before see, I will have

439
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 1: a story about getting and not to get too sidetracked,

440
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: but as long as it's about crazy going to airport stuff.

441
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: And what's funny is Paul, Paul remember this time because

442
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: me and Scott Bordeaux went out to dinner with Paul

443
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: and his cameraman with whatever station you were working with

444
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: at the time in Saint Louis in nineteen ninety nine

445
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: during the hockey playoffs when I was a hockey beat

446
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: writer covering the Coyotes. Paul was there covering. We went

447
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: out to dinner one night, but after one of these games,

448
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 1: and this was ninety nine, of course, so pre nine eleven.

449
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: I took a cab to the airport with Scott and

450
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Speaker 1: my wallet full out of my pants pocket in the

451
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Speaker 1: taxi and I didn't really realize it got in the

452
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Speaker 1: airport and long story short, I have no ide I

453
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Speaker 1: have nothing, And because it was pre nine eleven, we

454
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: walked up to the gate and Scott Bordeaux was like, oh, yeah,

455
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: I can vouch for him. He's he's a friend of mine.

456
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: So they gave me my ticket and I was able

457
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Speaker 1: to go and I went right onto the plane. You know,

458
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: I went through security with no ID because he vouched

459
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: for me, and it was all good. Now, the story

460
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: ends up that I didn't know what taxi company it was,

461
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: but I made a couple of phone calls. The hotel

462
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: was really helpful, The taxi company was really helpful. Two

463
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: days later, I got in the mail my wallet with everything,

464
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: including all the cash in it. Still one of the

465
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: most amazing things never happened to me. But can you

466
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: imagine trying to get on a plane with no ID

467
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: these days? I mean, it just wouldn't happen. You can't.

468
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: Didn't even get on the charter without ID. And they

469
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: know who I am, right right, I mean they have

470
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: your they have your fingerprints on file and your DNA,

471
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 1: and you still won't get on that charter without an ID.

472
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Speaker 1: I mean there's actually, by the way, our Jim Amandro

473
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Speaker 1: just cited and it's a great recollection because it is

474
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Speaker 1: a money recall. Here. Once upon a time, Rolando Canto,

475
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: former Cardinals offensive lineman and current team broadcaster. I do

476
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: remember this. He brought back a big old slab of

477
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: meat that was in like this vacuum packaging and it

478
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 1: was I think it was a slab of goat meat

479
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: and it was a whole side of like goat meat

480
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Speaker 1: that he was gifted to him. It was like really exquisite,

481
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: sort of rare goat meat of some sort. And he

482
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: just threw that right in the overhead and we flew

483
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Speaker 1: home and it was dutiful. That wasn't That wasn't the

484
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: Mexico City trip, was it? I don't it could have been.

485
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure Orlando is a god in Mexico City.

486
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: I do remember that it would have been interesting to

487
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Speaker 1: go there this year and see if his reputation still proceeding.

488
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: I will say that of everything we lost on the

489
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: schedule this year, the preseason, nobody nobody's lamenting the preseason,

490
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: but the Mexico City trip I was looking forward to.

491
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. And by the way, one

492
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: other story back from the when I first started doing

493
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: some of the Cardinals charters, who was mid nineties, and

494
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Speaker 1: I vividly remember a certain offensive lineman who will not

495
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Speaker 1: who will not be named here, and I was in

496
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: a very very last row all by myself, I'm not

497
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,239
Speaker 1: sure why, and in a big old offensive lineman came

498
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: back with a bag of ice, ostensibly to ICE's knee,

499
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: except there was something else in the bag of the

500
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: ice that he cracked open one by one and drank

501
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: on the way home. As he shoved me over to

502
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Speaker 1: the windows seat, it took the two seats on the

503
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Speaker 1: aisle and said, Paul, shut up as I ice my

504
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know who it was, but

505
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: I have some I bet you, I bet you I

506
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: could get it in one or two guesses. That's my prediction.

507
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: He might share a last name in part with one

508
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: of our other current team broadcasters put it that way. Anyway,

509
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: how about Isaiah Simmons. How about that rookie there, Kyle.

510
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: How about him and the ten tackles? He had a sack,

511
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: he had a quarterback hit. Give me your takeaways on

512
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Speaker 1: Isaiah's game and what he had to say to the

513
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: media this week. Beautiful segue, per usual, Paul, great job,

514
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: zero connection or correlation whatsoever. You just got to own

515
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: it and sell it. That's the key. Yeah, he's probably

516
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: drank something with ice in it before, So there you go.

517
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Speaker 1: Um No, I mean I thought I thought he was

518
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: super impressive. That's that's the type of play that you

519
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: want to see out of your top ten pick. And

520
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: I know it took longer than people wanted, and there's

521
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: been a clamoring for Isaiah Simmons for a long time.

522
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Speaker 1: But to be honest, from what we saw in San

523
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Speaker 1: Francisco and the opener, I don't fault for advanced Joseph

524
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: slow playing it because it did not look like Isaiah

525
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: Simmons was ready in week one and instead of putting

526
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Speaker 1: him out there. You had Devandre Campbell and you had

527
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks, two solid veterans, so I think they did

528
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: it right. But at this point, Isaiah Simmons looks like

529
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: he's mentally ready and physically he just used us a

530
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: different kind of species out there. He's he's so big

531
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: and he's fast and he can really tackle. So the

532
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: job he did against Russell Wilson a couple of times

533
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: in the open field against Tyler Lockett, it just gives

534
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: you a lot of confidence that if he's around the ball,

535
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: he's going to make the play. So and we checked

536
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: the depth chart this week, Darren, this is an honest question.

537
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: And if I was PAULI prep I know the answer

538
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: to this question. But we're exactly do things stand right

539
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: now at week side? Inside linebacker? That is a fantastic question,

540
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: And I would also would have behooved me to check

541
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: that myself before we were on. But I will say this,

542
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they're not making any official

543
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: changes like that, just because you know, I think at

544
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: this point, Devondre Campbell is a guy that obviously you're

545
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: still going to be using. You're You're not gonna you're

546
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: not gonna be in a situation where you're just gonna

547
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: send Campbell to the bench or kind of make him

548
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: a special teams guy. I don't think, I mean, especially Paul,

549
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: with all the missing um defensive linement that they have

550
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: right now, which is a ridiculous amount. You know, you

551
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: do feel like using extra linebackers only makes more sense

552
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: at this point in this situation, But I can't say

553
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: now that I'm looking at it. Isaiah Simmons still officially

554
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: listed as a backup, But do I think his playing

555
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 1: time is only going to increase? Do I think there

556
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: are going to be chances that he's on the field

557
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: instead of Devondre Campbell going forward? I absolutely think that,

558
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: and he should because I thought he played a fantastic

559
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: game against Seattle. And you're, you do, like Kyle said,

560
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: you see what they see in him, the amazing athleticism,

561
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: and you know, Vance Joseph said, guys that you know

562
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: it's not just playing inside linebacker. I know early and

563
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, we want him just to be inside linebacker.

564
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: We will want him just to be inside linebacker. But

565
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph said, look, he's playing He's the Swiss Army

566
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: Knights we wanted. He's playing outside linebacker, he's playing inside linebacker,

567
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: he's playing a little bit of nicol, he's playing a

568
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: little bit of safety. So he's already doing those Swiss

569
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: army things that everybody talked about doing. We've we've arrived

570
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: at that point. Yeah. I wasn't buying it. I got it.

571
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't buying it earlier, Kyle, Remember we talked about that. Oh,

572
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna strictly stick to one position. Remember there's there's

573
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Speaker 1: what they say sometimes in these press conferences the beginning

574
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: of the season, and then there's what you can sort

575
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: of discern based on the body language and sort of

576
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: the logic of it all. And sure enough, he has

577
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: been tutored, in coached up at several different positions, not

578
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: as many as at Clemson. He's not getting a hundred

579
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: different snaps at five different positions, but he is pretty

580
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: pretty versatile. Whereas so posedly he was only going to

581
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: concentrate on that one inside linebacker spot. Yeah, and certainly

582
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: the Miami game he was forced into that nickel cornerback

583
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: role because the Cardinals were pretty much out of cornerbacks

584
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: in that game, so he had to play there. Now

585
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: that you're in a little better shape, where do they

586
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: use him? And I'm interested in this game. I mean,

587
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson isn't gonna play. It seems like Deontay Thompson's

588
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: on the COVID list, which means he probably won't play.

589
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: And if you don't have those guys and you're going

590
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: against a very run heavy team at time in the Patriots,

591
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: do you slide him back to that box safety and

592
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: have Devondre Campbell and Jordan Hicks and Isaiah Simmons on

593
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: the field together or almost that four three look we've

594
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: seen at times defensively with all three of those guys.

595
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: So I feel like, yeah, it's an interesting question. Because

596
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: Devondre Campbell has still been one of your best eleven

597
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: players this season, you would like to keep him on

598
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: the field. Do you feel comfortable moving Isaiah Simmons around?

599
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: Do you just want Isaiah Simmons to stay mostly at

600
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: inside linebacker when everybody else is healthy. That to me

601
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: is a very intriguing question moving forward because you had

602
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: a glaring hole at slot cornerback when Byron Murphy wasn't playing,

603
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: But you don't have that anymore, and now where do

604
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: you use Isaiah Simmons if people are healthy around him?

605
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: And you know what, especially when you look at the

606
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: team you're playing, right Cam Newton. The fact New England

607
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: went into this week eleven leading the NFL and rushing attempts,

608
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,239
Speaker 1: a top three rushing team overall, even though they were

609
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: bottled up surprisingly so by Texas defense that it had

610
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: struggled almost the entirety of the year. Although JJ Watt

611
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: had a heck of a game he recaptured his nickname

612
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: JJ Swat with four passes defense. But I mean, if

613
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: you're we all know we've seen Cam Newton up close.

614
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: We saw what Cam Newton has done to the Cardinals historically.

615
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: We know about the twenty fifteen championship game. Look, is

616
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: he the same Cam? No, but he's still six six

617
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: to five to fifty And I feel a lot better

618
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: about my front seven if Isaiah Simmons is in there,

619
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: either an inside linebacker or box safety, and at times

620
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what their tendencies are. I wouldn't be

621
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: surprised if Isaiah Simmons is a spy I Cam Newton,

622
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: and that's when you know you have an NFL game.

623
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: You have that sort of athleticism and size matching up

624
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: against each other. That's an intriguing game within the game

625
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: to me. You know, if it's a game of matchups,

626
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: I think that's interesting. Especially when you're missing a couple

627
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: of your key safeties, you're gonna have to improvise. Yeah,

628
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: And you know, it's it's funny when you mentioned spy.

629
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: It's weird because you don't. To me, Cam isn't a

630
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: guy that you would normally think needs a spy per

631
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: se because he's not that kind of runner. But it

632
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: is kind of interesting as well as the fact that,

633
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: as you've mentioned his height weight, Cam Newton, he's bigger

634
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: than Isaiah Simmons in bulf areas, which is kind of funny.

635
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: You know, this, this is this is a very intriguing

636
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: for this defense because the Patriots haven't shown a lot

637
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: of consistency offensively. Cam Newton has been inconsistent throwing the ball.

638
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of weapons that receive as

639
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: the mere bird went over one hundred yards last week.

640
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I love Demiri was a great guy.

641
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: But if he's the guy that you know is your

642
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Speaker 1: number one receiver, I don't know if the Cardinals are

643
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: going to be super worried. But at the same time,

644
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are struggling at safety with Jalen Thompson hurting

645
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: and Deontay Thompson having the COVID issue, and the defensive

646
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 1: line is a mess right now. I don't even know

647
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do there because who what bodies are

648
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: going to be available? Are they going to be elevating

649
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: guys off the practice squad who nobody knows and having

650
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: them to play a role as Michael Dogby going to

651
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: be a starter this week because they just don't have

652
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: the bodies now. Zach Allen did come off injured reserve,

653
00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: right so he's he's on the desert. He's still on

654
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: IR designated to return, so his window is open. He's

655
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: got to be elevated to the active roster sometime in

656
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: the next three weeks, but he's still on IR, so

657
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: he may not be back this week. He could be.

658
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: We'll have to see. I mean, this was his first

659
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: practice in weeks, you know, and the other you know,

660
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: they got Rashard Lawrence. They opened his window coming back

661
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: to practice, but he hasn't been practicing, so I don't

662
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: know if he reaggravated himself. And the problem there is, again,

663
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: you've only got a three week window, and if he's

664
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: not ready at the end of the three weeks, do

665
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: you take up a roster spot to put him back

666
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: on the roster because you're hoping he gets close or

667
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: has this ended his chances of returning. It's they're just

668
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: juggling so many things right now on the defensive line,

669
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Speaker 1: and I think they can get away with it against

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00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots, you know, I don't. I would rather have

671
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: them have some guys there for the Rams game because

672
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: the Rams seem like they're running it. Okay, he might

673
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: be able to get away with it against the Giants,

674
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: but you're going to see the Rams again. I mean,

675
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: it's just you don't want this defense line to remain

676
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: this banged up, especially going into a time of year

677
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: where God for Big Covid, you know, jumps up and

678
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: takes one or two or four year guys like the Ravens. Oh,

679
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: here comes Demanta Peco, right, fifteen years in the league.

680
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: So that's the one reinforcement the season veteran they signed. Heck,

681
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: you might see him address for the game and actually

682
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: get into the game, Kyle at this rate, Yeah, and

683
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: I think it's it is a tough time of the

684
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: year to not have them against the Patriots, because, like

685
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: Darren said, when they don't have a lot of passing options,

686
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots might really just try to bully the Cardinals

687
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: defensive line and do jumbo packages and do some quarterback

688
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: runs or some options and just keep on trying to

689
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: move the ball on the ground. I mean, you look

690
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: at these offenses, and the more possessions, to me, the

691
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: better for the Cardinals because they have the superior offense

692
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: in this game. So if the Patriots are able to

693
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: extend drives and try to make this kind of an ugly,

694
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: drag it out type of affair, that to me, plays

695
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: in their favor. And we'll see if they can dominate

696
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: the trenches on offense, then the Cardinals are gonna have

697
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to stop that run and

698
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: to make Cam Newton throw the ball. When the Cardinals

699
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: won there in two thousand and twelve, Darren remember that

700
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: road game with Kevin Cobb, oh very much so, and

701
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: Ryan Williams fumbled the ball. They were trying to run

702
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: up the clock. Ryan Williams fumbled the ball, should have

703
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: lost it and Stephen Gostkowski blew a forty yard field

704
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: goal attempt at the buzzer that would have beaten them.

705
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: That's right. Was that the season opener? Where was it?

706
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Speaker 1: That was the second game of the season. They had

707
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: won the season opener. I can't remember who against in

708
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: twenty twelve. Um oh, twenty twelve was the Seas. They

709
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: beat Russell Wilson in his first game ever. Right, that's right.

710
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: They went. Then they went to New England. Tom Brady played. Yep.

711
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: They had Rob Gronkowski and another an awesome tight end

712
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: named Aaron Hernandez who was actually people expected to have

713
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: a bigger year than Grenkowski, and he got hurt in

714
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: that game and ended up missing a lot of time.

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00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: Quentin Groves had a block punt, I want to say,

716
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: in that game, the late Quentin Groves rescue gees and

717
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: and somehow they grinded out a win up there against

718
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Bill Belichick in one of the most

719
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: improbable victories I have ever seen this franchise. Half was

720
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: I just remember that vividly, just that scene on the

721
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: sideline and just the stunted silence by the Patriots and

722
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: the and the Patriots crowd. That was really mouthy that

723
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: entire game, and uh and the Carter. That's about as

724
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: as much as I've seen a team enjoy a regular

725
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: season win in a long time. They went to and

726
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: oh they would be four and oh, and then they

727
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: lost nine in a row and you got the coaching

728
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: change at the end of the season. That was an

729
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: amazing roller coaster ride of the season. Yes, yes, it was.

730
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 1: It was. I mean, you think about the last two

731
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: times to New England, though, Paul. You had the twenty

732
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: twelve and then you had the infamous twenty two thousand

733
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: and eight game and the snow that was forty seven

734
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: nothing before fits his late touchdown, and you know, the

735
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: whole mess and the worst playoff team ever, and then

736
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl. I mean, it's it's usually

737
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: quite an interesting trip. It's weird for the Cardinals to

738
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: go up there in this one and be a favorite,

739
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: because it's so rare for anybody to go to New

740
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: England and be the favorite team. And it almost makes

741
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: you uneasy for the Cardinals, Like you're going against Bill

742
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: Belichick and you're on the road and you're the team

743
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: that is expected to come out with the victory, and

744
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: you look at the way the Cardinals have played this

745
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: year compared to the Patriot it's it's I think it's

746
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: it's it's fair. I mean, the Cardinals have been the

747
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: better team, but playing in New England, I think everybody

748
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: knows is not easy. And we saw the reverence Cliff

749
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: Kingsbury has for Bill Belichick, learning under him and talking

750
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: to him throughout his coaching career. So I think there's

751
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting storylines heading into this game, and

752
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you here on Pacific Cardinals Underground, brought to

753
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: you by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

754
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: Here you go our Jim one hundred working overtime, the

755
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: Holy can Only staff. From that twenty twelve win at

756
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: New England, it was the Cardinals were the first team

757
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: to defeat the Patriots and a home opener in that stadium,

758
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: Gillette Stadium, and had opened in two thousand and two.

759
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: That was the first time they'd lost a home opener

760
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: in a decade, first time ever in the history of

761
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: what was a brand new building ten years prior. So

762
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty amazing. What also is amazing is when

763
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury talks about Bill Belichick and says with all

764
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: seriousness that he could coach any position group to an

765
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: elite level. That's his knowledge of the NFL game and

766
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: of football. And it is staggering when you look at

767
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: just some of the basic stats in his initial one

768
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: paragraph bile for Bill Belichick, and that not only is

769
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: this his twenty first season, this is his forty six

770
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: consecutive season of coaching in the NFL as an assistant

771
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: or a head coach. It's just staggering when you look

772
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: at some of the numbers that he has compiled over

773
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Speaker 1: his legendary career. Cliff Kingsbury has had forty one years

774
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: on Earth and Bill Belichick's been coaching for forty six

775
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: years in the NFL. So and you think of all

776
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: the coaching changes around the league since then, and that's

777
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: why you know, there's a lot of people who who

778
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: speculate that this could be it for Bill Belichick. Into me,

779
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: He's not going out like this. He hasn't had six

780
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: losses in a season since two thousand and eight or

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00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. And for your which year, think

782
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: about that, think about this success. I just don't see

783
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: him pulling the plug in his career. After a season

784
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: like this where they're going to miss the playoffs for

785
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: the first time and forever, well, I don't was it.

786
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it was two thousand and eight because

787
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: I think they went eleven and five in two thousand

788
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: and eight, the year they didn't have Tom Brady and

789
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: has somehow got Matt Castle to do wonderful things. He's

790
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: he's an incredible coach. And that's why this game is

791
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: like so scary because it's the Patriots and more importantly,

792
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: it's Bill Belichick. I mean, you can't you know, I

793
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: did a radio interview with Patriots radio station, and you

794
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: know they are basically like, how does it feel coming in?

795
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: Basically is the dynasty is fading, and you know this

796
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: team is struggling, And of course they're all like, this

797
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: team is struggling and what's wrong? And everybody's gonna beat

798
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: the snot out of him? And I just look at it.

799
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, on a given game, I mean, you you

800
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: better be prepared. I mean, does anybody really think we

801
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: talked earlier in the podcast about Kyler Murray running the ball?

802
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: Does anybody think Bill Belichick is going to give Kyler

803
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: Murray any ability to run the ball today, I don't,

804
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: or in the game, I don't. I think that's gonna

805
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: be one of the first things he takes away and

806
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: and he's going to be good at it, whether he's

807
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: got the personnel or not. And it's going to be

808
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: interesting to see how the Cardinals counteract this stuff. And

809
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: they just went against the Shawn Watson. So Shaun Watson

810
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: at a highlight reel four yard touchdown run where he

811
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: took tacklers with him, And I'm guessing that the Patriots

812
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: defense didn't enjoy seeing that showcased on every highlight show

813
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: the entirety of Sunday and Monday. So yeah, they've had

814
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: a little practice against the dual threat quarterbacks, So yeah,

815
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Darren As. And then who knows about

816
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: the weather. That's always an advantage for the Patriots. Just

817
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: in the two thousand and eight snow game, Cardinals were

818
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: done before that game ever kicked off. That was just

819
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: the insane weather conditions that look West Coast teams just

820
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: aren't accustomed to. It's a huge advantage for the home

821
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: team and they know it, and the game played out accordingly.

822
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: So you always have to worry and wonder about the weather,

823
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: and so yeah, there's and look just for me, just

824
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: any recollection of Cam Newton, and I still go back

825
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: to what he looked like his two fifteen MVP season

826
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: where he was the alpha male on that field. Before

827
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: that NFC Championship game, ninety minutes before kickoff, he's parading

828
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: through the Cardinals side of the field basically looking a

829
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: guy saying who wants them? And so you know, he's

830
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: whether he's gonna bring the same sort of performance, No,

831
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 1: most likely not, but he's gonna have that same sort

832
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: of bravado, and so that's always a consideration as well.

833
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's one thing that scares you

834
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: the most about this this game, Kyle, but maybe we'll

835
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: wrap it up with that. Yeah. I mean, I think

836
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 1: going back to um the the offensive line for New England,

837
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: and I don't know how how good it is, but

838
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: just the shortage of defensive lineman the Cardinals have, and

839
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: I just wonder if this game is going to be

840
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 1: kind of ugly and run oriented and something that plays

841
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: into New England's hands. And I just think overall this

842
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: game is extremely critical when you look at the Cardinals,

843
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta win this to stay in the

844
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: hunt in the NFC West, And if you win this

845
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: game and you get to seven and four, I think

846
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are in a fantastic spot to wrap up

847
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: a playoff spot. And I don't think it would be

848
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: particularly close. But if you use this game and then

849
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: you let the Bears or the Vikings or these other

850
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: teams kind of hang around, and then it gets dicey

851
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: as far as even grabbing a wildcard. So I think

852
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: if the Cardinals win, I think they're gonna be in

853
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: really good shape, and I think there's gonna be a

854
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: lot of optimism moving forward, and if they lose, there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fingernail biting and some concerns

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Speaker 1: about where this team is headed. I mean, you're talking

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Speaker 1: about three losses in four games and the one win

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Speaker 1: being a Hail Mary. And I still think this is

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Speaker 1: a good team, but I think the narrative if they

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Speaker 1: lose is going to start shifting. So I think it's

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Speaker 1: an important game for all those factors. And I think

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals are the more talented team. But like we've

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Speaker 1: talked about, it's a tough time a year, it's a

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Speaker 1: tough location, and you're going against a great coach on

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Speaker 1: the other side, So it feels like a coin flip

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Speaker 1: type outcome to me. I guess what the week before

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Speaker 1: the Patriots played Deshaun Watson, they got Lamar Jackson and

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. So there's gonna be no shock and

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Speaker 1: awe at a quarterback with the ability to run the football.

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Speaker 1: If Kyler has the ability to run the football, which

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Speaker 1: just brings us full circle to the shoulder. So if

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Speaker 1: there's no further questions about my shoulder, then I think

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Speaker 1: we can wrap up this edition of Cardinals Underground, brought

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Speaker 1: the Aros on our Cardinals. So, Darren, you sure I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling positive about your shoulder, and I'm hoping next week's podcast,

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Speaker 1: as we zoom these things, I'll be able to see

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Speaker 1: that shoulder there, because it would really look awkward if

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Speaker 1: you did not have a shoulder. You know what, Darren missed.

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Speaker 1: I'll leave it with this. You know what Darren miss

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Speaker 1: Kyle on the team plane. Because Darren has a misfortune

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Speaker 1: as sitting next to me back in row forty, otherwise

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Speaker 1: known as the last row on the plane anyway. I

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Speaker 1: was so accustomed to wearing the mask, because you know,

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Speaker 1: the mask is mandatory at all times, and it's a

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Speaker 1: long flight, and we were tired. It's a deada knight.

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Speaker 1: Darren sacked out. I actually decided to have a meal,

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Speaker 1: and what he missed was me cramming my fork full

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Speaker 1: of food up against my mouth but failing to take

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Speaker 1: the mask off because I was so tired. It's so

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Speaker 1: ustomed to wearing the mask that I got my mask

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Speaker 1: was like to kenby my tumbo and I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: go ahead and stuff a forkful of food into my

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Speaker 1: mouth and no, no soup for you, and boom, it

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Speaker 1: just tumbled right down back onto my tray and I

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Speaker 1: kind of looked. I just leading my left to see

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Speaker 1: if Darren caught that, and he didn't. He missed it,

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Speaker 1: so I was saved. I've done that a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: not quite where I've smashed into my mask and it's

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Speaker 1: fallen off. I've had like a sandwich or something and

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Speaker 1: lifting it up before realizing the mask was still on.

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Speaker 1: So I'm right there with you. So I didn't get

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Speaker 1: to eat. I didn't get to eat that fortful, but

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Speaker 1: it was still a fortful of humble pie, so we'll

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Speaker 1: leave it there on Cardinal's underground