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Speaker 1: Individual.

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Speaker 2: Isaac Garrenda will be back and Patrick Taylor go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Decided what you're gonna do on Friday.

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Speaker 2: As far as the starters playing, yeah, I'd like the

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Speaker 2: starters to play. We'll see how today and tomorrow go,

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Speaker 2: but that's the plan. He won't play this week. No,

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Speaker 2: he won't practice this week, not this.

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Speaker 3: Week with the Heleno Do you think that kind of

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Speaker 4: On the on the list?

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Speaker 2: Not necessarily. I mean that's still up for discussion right now.

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Speaker 2: He got cleared last week, so it's been good that

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Speaker 2: he can do like real football drills and stuff with

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Speaker 2: the trainers and everything. He's been going a lot harder

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Speaker 2: with that. I think two days on, two days off.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully it goes real good this week and maybe we

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Speaker 4: Last for you to you declared your backup quarterback before

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Speaker 4: the last preseason game. Where do you standing now with that?

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like what you guys see, they're pretty tight,

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Speaker 2: so definitely not declaring it now. Hopefully they'll they'll play

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Speaker 2: out more in these two practices and hopefully a little

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Speaker 4: If Liciatto's injury, something that could could linger for a while.

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Speaker 1: Or yeah, it could linger for a while.

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Speaker 2: He ended up having against some type of I don't

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Speaker 1: Yes, is there any cowing?

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Speaker 3: Are there any things that he shows you that make

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Speaker 3: that can flow a rookie receive down from contributing right away.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's still early. You know, he got his

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Speaker 2: first full weekend. It was good to see him do

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Speaker 2: some things in the game. Really liked how smooth he

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Speaker 2: looked as a punt returner. But you know, he still

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Speaker 2: got a lot to go through. He's behind. Yes, that's

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Speaker 2: on movement with dr lamps.

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Speaker 1: Zero updates. Nothing's changed.

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Speaker 4: You guys missed twenty four tackles in the first two

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Speaker 4: preseason games. When you guys are watching the film, was

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Speaker 4: it what to look like to you?

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Speaker 2: I mean I thought I thought our tracking was a

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Speaker 1: Overrunning a couple of things, a few.

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Speaker 2: Miss tackles in some tight areas which you don't like.

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Speaker 2: But there's a lot of guys out there trying to

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Speaker 3: How the the addition of Nick Lombardy to the staff,

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Speaker 3: did you know him before? What is it about somebody

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Speaker 3: who is your off asive coordinator coming in in a

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Speaker 1: And I'll just throw in another question.

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Speaker 3: Did you talk to Bill Belichick if people were hiring him?

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't talk to Bill before.

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Speaker 2: But I've always liked mixed background the people he's worked for,

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Speaker 2: being with Josh, things like that, got to spend time,

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Speaker 2: I always liked people who've kind of grown up in

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Speaker 2: And it's been great so far. You expect him, not really,

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Speaker 4: Veterans have said that one of the benefits of him

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Speaker 2: Off season his voice has gotten even stronger and more leadership.

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Speaker 2: I just think when you've done what you've done on

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care how you are.

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Speaker 1: I think he does do it naturally.

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Speaker 2: But the team based off of what he's done, and

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Speaker 2: respects anyone more as a person of how much they

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Speaker 2: respect Brock.

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Speaker 4: Talk about seeing the offense the way you see it.

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Speaker 4: Who wants to give to that point, not there yet,

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Speaker 4: We would we would see in that process. And he's

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Speaker 4: Pretty excited about we'll see where he can get in

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Speaker 1: Individually, Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 2: I mean I was so excited with how he did

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Speaker 2: his rookie He was so exciting and watching him overcome

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable last year.

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Speaker 2: So he's got enough tape out there that everyone has

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Speaker 2: a good grasp of what Brock is and that's a

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Speaker 2: very good quarterback. And the way he's built, the way

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Speaker 2: cause we've been doing it for a long time, and

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Speaker 1: And it's not just all the mind.

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Speaker 2: They got to work on the physical aspect of the game.

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Speaker 2: So you always hope that they can count on the

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Speaker 2: coach to help bridge that gap, But especially with the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's always good to know a lot.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes knowing a lot doesn't always help you know too

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Speaker 2: many of the what ifs. And I have a scar

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Speaker 2: and almost every single play we've done it long enough

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Speaker 2: you give the quarterback all those scars that you have

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Speaker 2: as a play caller, they might never throw the ball.

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Speaker 1: Watch out, this could happen. This could happen.

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of on a need to know basis

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Speaker 1: But the more they play, the more they.

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Speaker 2: Learn, because eventually you do need to know all that

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Speaker 1: And Brocks handled it very well.

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Speaker 4: Rookie offensive lineman all have good numbers.

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Speaker 1: Does the film show the same thing?

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Speaker 4: And what do you see? Do you like a competition

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think the competition there has been

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Speaker 2: guys who have been around here, who whether it's practice

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Speaker 1: And the more you can do that, obviously, the better

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Speaker 2: But there's no harder position to develop than a line,

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Speaker 2: And the line really has been taken away from them

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Speaker 2: And college football line play is night and day different,

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Speaker 1: But it's very tough with her timeline.

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Speaker 4: Christmas so adamant, borderline obsessive about reps and how important

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what's good. When you're that.

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Speaker 2: Obsessive about everything. I mean, when you're hurt, you're hurt,

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Speaker 2: you can't go. But when you take every rep, every

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Speaker 2: When he's probably walking down the aisle to get married,

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Speaker 2: he's probably thinking about his feet and how to do

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Speaker 1: He's obsessed with it.

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Speaker 2: And so when you do get in these situations where

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Speaker 4: But what what quarterback you've had? Who is it's close

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Speaker 2: Guys who aren't very good at planned, I can't say

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Speaker 2: they think you want to hear. I mean, you're in

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Speaker 2: usually means you're just guessing and trying to tell a

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Speaker 2: much explanation, you know, Brian Gracy, but he could play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little bit. I have it. I have it.

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Speaker 2: No, I would hate do that to somebody, Like if

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Speaker 2: and actually think of how to play football. That's playing

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Speaker 2: there anything in sports, and to have to do other stuff,

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Speaker 2: to me, would make it extremely hard.

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Speaker 1: simple game. Possibly. I really don't plan it all out

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Speaker 2: I think I'm all right on it. Just getting that experience.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's he did it in high school for

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Speaker 2: So it's just it's more why why did I do it?

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Speaker 2: Like what does it effect on the team? And when

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Speaker 1: That's why I hated doing that.

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Speaker 2: I'd always call it, but then a backup guy I'd

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Speaker 1: So that always kind of made me insecure. Just to

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Speaker 2: I didn't want them to think I wasn't taking it

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Speaker 2: I don't think they've taken that way at all. So

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Speaker 2: I want to think so it depends. I mean, all

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Speaker 2: there's a lot that goes into play calling. That's more

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Speaker 2: But anytime you think you've made a great play call,

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Speaker 4: You at all.

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Speaker 4: As far as how you might be looking at a game,

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Speaker 2: I want to think so Clay's had a very good

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Speaker 2: Clay's grown up around football a long time. He kind

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Speaker 2: help me so much. And you know, as a head coach,

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Speaker 2: And when you're a head coach, you got a few

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Speaker 2: other things you got to do, but you can't let

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Speaker 2: you aren't there. And he's been great at that since

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Speaker 2: he's moved offense for us.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks guys,