1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Here much 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: to discuss today. On Monday, the eighteenth of Bark. We 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: saw over the weekend a bit of chatter over this one, 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: and finally, I think officially launched here on Monday, the 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: Don lemon Elon Musk sit down, which I thought was 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: particularly interesting. We'll also be we'll dive into that in 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: the second We're also going to be joined at the 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: bottom of this hour by Missouri Senator Eric Schmidt, big 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: free speech case against the Biden administration all the way 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: up at the Supreme Court. We'll discuss that. And then 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: third hour really looking forward to this when Abigail Schreier, 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: author of Bad Therapy, Why the Kids Aren't Growing Up 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: play and I have copies of our books respectively. I 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 2: have dove into the intro. I have not yet been 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: able to read the whole thing because now, Clay, I 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: am in the middle of reading a book about Mithridates 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: and his war against the ancient Roman Empire in the 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: first century BC, which, let me tell you, is riveting. 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: So how many copies of that book sold probably not 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: that many, but I am one of the people that 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: bought it. 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: It's quite good. It's called The Poison King. I'm very 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: much enjoying it. Show I'll give it to you. 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 4: Don't worry. 27 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: I'll hook you up. You know, I'll keep it for you. 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 4: I can't. 29 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm embarrassingly when you described that, I was 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: actually like, this doesn't sound like a bad book, but 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: I bet it's sold eight copies. 32 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 33 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: Probably some of these great history books, I'm reading them 34 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: and I think to myself, this is so good, and 35 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: I just get a little sad. I'm like, I hope 36 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: this person, like one of my favorite history historians, I 37 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: should history authors also a historian is Roger Crowley, and 38 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: I think he's written some bestsellers, but some of his 39 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: stuff is so good. I'm just like every I buy 40 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: every Roger Crowley book I can. And he's not a 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: famous guy. I just think he's a great historian anyway. 42 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: And you're worried, like, is he able to make a 43 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: living off of his extreme talent that might not be 44 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: reflected in the marketplace, whereas you know, there's tons of 45 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: guys making fifty million dollars a year to write books that, 46 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: let's be honest, are not necessarily tremendous works of art. 47 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 4: Well yeah, and. 48 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're also generally not running them. Yeah, that's exactly right. 49 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: I feel like it's like discovering an artist to paint you. 50 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: You're like, it's amazing, and then you're like, are you 51 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: able to feed yourself? 52 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: Like? 53 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: Is everything going? 54 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: Okay? It's tough selling books out there, It's no, He's 55 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: super hard. So anyway, let's dive into this. Oh, you know, 56 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: I was actually at the winter Park Orlando Arts Festival 57 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: this past weekend, which I had never been to before, 58 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: which was a lot of fun. 59 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 4: I hear winter Park is fabulous. 60 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 3: Katie, who is my assistant, is from winter Park, and 61 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: there is a place yes, very great, very very very. 62 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: High marks for Winter Park Orlando, which I had never 63 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: been to before. Carrie grew up there, My wife grew 64 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: up there. That's why at least in Park grew up there. Anyway, 65 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: I want to dive in this Elon sit down with 66 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: Don Lemon. First of all, too, should we should we 67 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: take everyone to where it went first? 68 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: Or should we. 69 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: Build up to it? You know, like, do you want 70 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 2: to go to do the build up or the. 71 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: I had you did you watch this whole whole thing? Yes, 72 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: So as a prelude, I have not. I watched the 73 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: two minute discussion on DEI and it was Don Lemon 74 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: was so incomprehensibly dumb that. 75 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 4: Like, we need to play that clip. 76 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: But is the whole interview reflective of that clip or 77 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: is it at least a little bit better than that. 78 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: It's very Don Lemon in that it is that level 79 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: of dumb, but also very passive aggressive. So what Don does? 80 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: And I think, and I've full disclosure, I've done his 81 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: show when it was at CNN a number of times 82 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: back in the day, and none of this is surprising 83 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: to me. And I found his show to be I'm 84 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: trying to think of how to say this on radio, 85 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: thought getting in trouble, a dumpster fire of low caliber garbage. 86 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: There we go. It's just not a good not a 87 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: good news program. But I was being paid at the 88 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: time by CNN. When you're being paid and you're on 89 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: TV and you have no money and you have a contract, 90 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: you go and you go on the shows they tell 91 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: you to go on. Anyway, I'm not paid to go 92 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: on any cable news anymore. So that's why you know, 93 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: see me on cable news. You see me here on 94 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: the show? So, uh, where are we? 95 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 5: Oh? 96 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: Where are we? 97 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 6: Oh? 98 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: Yes, Don Lemon, Yes, Clay, it was really that bad. 99 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: He does the passive aggressive thing though, of hey, so 100 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: you know, let me ask you a normal question, and 101 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: then why are you such a racist? And then hey, 102 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: you know, how's Tesla going there? Why are you such 103 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: a racist? In and out? In and out? Okay, let's 104 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: start with this one. You mentioned the so you've seen 105 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: the DEI. Let's focus on the DEI thing. Yeah, and 106 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: then we'll take everybody to just a reminder of where 107 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 2: this ended up going here he is. Elon Musk is 108 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: trying to explain this is very straightforward. If they lower 109 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: standards in medical schools and surgical residency for minorities, won't 110 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: that result in doctors who are less capable, which means 111 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: that they're more likely to make mistakes, which means they're 112 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: more likely to kill people in the operating table? Pretty straightforward. 113 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: Elon tries to explain this to Don former CNN he 114 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: was the top hosted c for a while in terms 115 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: of ratings. Just for the record twenty six play it 116 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: if we if we lower the status for what it 117 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: takes to become a doctor. 118 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 7: You're saying, if we lower the standards, But do you 119 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 7: believe people are dying because the standards are being lowered. 120 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 8: I don't are having that is yes, an issue, but 121 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 8: it could become an issue. 122 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 7: Okay, But the actual evidence in history shows the exact opposite. 123 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 7: If you look at how minorities were treated by the 124 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 7: medical system, most doctors now are white, and there are 125 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 7: lots of mistakes in medicine. So you're saying that my 126 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 7: doctors are have bad medical care. I'm trying to understand 127 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 7: your logic here when it comes to DEI, because there's 128 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 7: no actual evidence of what you're saying. 129 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 8: No, I said, if the standards, like let's say big 130 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 8: things were referring to surgeons, Let's say surchions is asked 131 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 8: to a surgeon in training is asked to do it 132 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 8: a series of operations out of the supervision of a 133 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 8: senior surgeon, and they get a bunch of those operations wrong. 134 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 8: If that happens, and yet they are still approved to 135 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 8: be a surgeon, the probability that someone will die I 136 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 8: think at some point is high. 137 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 9: Okay, I understand that, but that's a hypothetical. That doesn't 138 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 9: mean it's happening. I didn't say it's happening. You didn't 139 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 9: say it was happening. I said it will. I said 140 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 9: if we lowest that is people hope, people will die. 141 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: So Elon Musklay is talking about a trajectory of what 142 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: is occurring and is getting more extreme all the time, 143 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: and Don Lemon doesn't seem like he's capable, honestly, like 144 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: he's not capable of following this train of logic and 145 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: keep saying, but you're saying the thing that could happen, 146 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: it's not happening. Therefore, why are you talking about how 147 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: it could happen? Does he not understand, like how time works. 148 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: I've watched this clip that we just played for all 149 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: of you, and the only thing I'm left with is 150 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: Don Lemon is too dumb to understand the concept of 151 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: a hypothetical. 152 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 4: At best. 153 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: Don Lemmon is trying to argue minorities receive a lower 154 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: standard of medical care now and that if there are 155 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: more doctors of a diverse background, they'll receive a better 156 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: standard of medical care in the future. That is also 157 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: a hypothetical that he's attempting to argue. But Elon Musk's 158 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: argument is very straightforward, and I think a lot of you. 159 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 4: Would agree with it. 160 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: It is this, if we promote people not based on 161 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: the quality of their work, but based on the color 162 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: of their skin or their who they sleep with, and 163 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: we lower the standards to increase those hires, then at 164 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: some point the overall standard of medical care will decline. 165 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: And buck Here's where I would make an argument that 166 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: would support what Emon Musk is saying. Have you noticed 167 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: how everyone is suddenly re implementing the SAT and the 168 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: Act for admissions every major school suddenly they did it, 169 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: which is super racist. In the first they took it away, 170 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: many of them did after George Floyd. So they decided, 171 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: you know what, black people score lower on SAT tests 172 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: in general, that is a form of systemic racism. We're 173 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: going to eliminate all testing requirements. And then they did 174 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: several years of admissions and you know what they discovered. 175 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: Oh wait a minute. 176 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: The SAT and the ACT are actually very predictive about 177 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: who can and cannot do work inside of these universities, 178 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: and we're actually missing a lot of kids who were 179 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: socioeconomically disadvantaged but have the ability to elevate their performance, 180 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: and so we're making our universities worse by not having them. 181 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: We lowered standards and we made things worse. So the 182 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: evidence actually supports pretty clearly what Elon Musk is is 183 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: making the case. 184 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: For this is this, this whole argument in this concept 185 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: is what made me a conservative, starting when I was 186 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: in high school because I remember these this this was 187 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: all around the issue of college admissions. And I went 188 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: to a what was a quite diverse high school, but 189 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: with a lot of low income white kids too, and 190 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: the low income white kids were basically being this was 191 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: a Regis High School in New York City. When I 192 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: was there, the media the average of the median income 193 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: was like forty five grand or something. It was basically 194 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: what it was for the United States. 195 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: Meaning there was no cost for this private school, right, 196 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 3: you have to be admitted private school. 197 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: Yes, so it was. It was a full scholarship institution, 198 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: private and everyone everyone goes for free, regardless of need. 199 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: And there were all these white kids play who came 200 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: from you know, modest income backgrounds, and they were basically told, look, 201 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: you know, get what money you can for like for 202 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: a state school somewhere, do what you can even even 203 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: if they had pretty exceptional grades in SATs. And the 204 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: minority kids in my class, not the Asians. There were 205 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: a bunch of Asians, particularly Koreans and Filipinos. They were 206 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: same same boat as as the white kids. But the 207 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: black and Latino kids, which Ivy League school do you 208 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: want to go to? That was the way college admissions worked. 209 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: And a lot of people like me saw that and 210 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: said hmm. And the other part of it was we 211 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: were being told by our guidance counselors were a little 212 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: bit woke. At least one of them was, Oh, but 213 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: this isn't about different standards, and I was like, no, 214 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 2: it is about different standards actually, And that's the whole 215 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: essence of DEI and all this is change standards for 216 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: people based on based on skin color, based on ethnicity, 217 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: and then refuse to admit that you were changing standards. 218 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: You want to have it both ways, right, So you 219 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 2: want to do something but not actually and say you're 220 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: doing it, but not have anyone able to talk about 221 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: what you're doing. So Elon tries again to explain this 222 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: to Don Lemon, tries to return to this very straightforward 223 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: concept of they are changing standards. They want to change 224 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: them more. Change standards will result in a higher percentage 225 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: of bad outcomes. Don Lemon unable to compute this play 226 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 2: twenty seven. 227 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 7: But why respond to something or put something out there 228 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 7: that has not happened because I could say I don't 229 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 7: want it to happen. 230 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: I think we don't want to low ut those standards. 231 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 7: Okay, if you look at the history of the medical industry, 232 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 7: especially when it comes to black Americans, it shows the 233 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 7: exact opposite to be Look at the Tuskegee Experiment, and 234 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 7: not only five percent of doctors are in America are black, 235 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 7: all of them are white. So are you saying that 236 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 7: if the majority of doctors are white? Are you saying 237 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 7: that and there are still these inequities right, and there's 238 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 7: and people still they're still mistakes. 239 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: Are you blaming DEI for that? 240 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 8: No, I'm just I'm very very basically saying that if 241 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 8: we lower standards for what it takes to become a 242 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 8: board certified surgeon or you know, a cologists or something 243 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 8: where that where the kind of disease we're talking about, 244 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 8: if you make a mistake cause us all to die, 245 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 8: then more people will die that if we don't lower 246 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 8: the standards if we should all low the standards. 247 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 7: Why do you think they're lowering the standards for minority 248 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 7: doctors or women doctors. 249 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 8: Or that's what the that's what that article said to suggested. 250 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: Yes, at Dukee University, by the way, they are lowering 251 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: the standards in medical school for certain minorities. That is 252 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: a fact. They are lowering the standards in residency for 253 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: certain minorities. That is a fact. And they say, what 254 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: do you mean, look at MCAT scores? I mean, look 255 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: at the only objective measures that exist. And they do 256 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: lower the standards dramatically, and the problem is they want 257 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: to lower them more, and people are saying, hold on 258 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: a second. With doctors, it's not a sociology professor. I 259 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 2: don't want the guy who was bottom ten percent like 260 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: Joe Biden. I don't want that guy operating on my 261 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: dad's heart or my heart. I don't want that. 262 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 4: It's pretty sward. 263 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 3: The more significant the job is, the less the race 264 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 3: or the gender or the sexuality of the person should matter. 265 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 4: Same thing. We've talked about this a lot. 266 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 3: With flying airplanes, I don't care about anything other than 267 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 3: is my airplane pilot a badass? 268 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 4: When I get on an airplane. 269 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: Similarly, if you're needing serious surgery or one of your 270 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 3: family members, does you don't care about anything other than 271 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: is that surgeon the best possible surgeon that I could get? 272 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 3: And so the fact that Don Lemon doesn't seem to 273 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: understand a very clear hypothetical makes me wonder, Buck, is 274 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: this the largest gap in intelligence in interview history? 275 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: It was? No, it really was. I mean, it was astonishing. 276 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 2: It was a guy, it was really its brilliant rights 277 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: char genius. He's probably like a one fifty IQ or something, 278 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: and maybe even way higher than that. But yeah, yeah, 279 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 2: and Don Lemon, I mean, I don't even want to guess, 280 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: but you know, this can work in a whole lot 281 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: of ways. 282 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 4: And McClay, for. 283 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: Example, I mean, I'll just admit this. I kind of 284 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: like to get you know, when I when I'm getting 285 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: a latte, I kind of wanted to be somebody who's 286 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: got dyed purple hair, a nose ring, and tattoos all 287 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 2: over their arms. I don't know why, but those things. 288 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 4: They know coffee better. 289 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: You try one of those anarchists make pretty good coffee. 290 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: You go to Oregon, you go to Portland, you go 291 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: to these places, Now, I'm not saying that that has 292 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: to be the case. I'm sure there are some very 293 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: nice folks who don't have all that who make who 294 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: make great lattes. But I'm just saying, in general, I 295 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: see bizarre piercings and purple hair and tattoos on someone's 296 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: arm at a coffee shop that is playing nineties grunge music, 297 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I think they're going to be good 298 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: at this. I'm just putting that out there. 299 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: The ultimate answer to this for me is I think 300 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: sports a perfect analogy. If Elon Musk just come back 301 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: and said, you know what, you know, we do need 302 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: to have more diversity in medicine, but we really need 303 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: more diversity in the United States men's basketball team. We 304 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 3: got to fire a lot of black guys, and and 305 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 3: then you're just say, wait, you're lowering the standard of 306 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: the performance that's required for a basketball player. Yeah, but 307 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: it's important for the basketball team to look like America. 308 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: Almost everybody immediately says, no, that's crazy. Why would we 309 00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: want to do that. 310 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: In any what you've leaned into, I mean, it's interesting 311 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: because quotas everyone agrees are I mean, legally, quotas are unconstitutional. 312 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: But what all these schools do and everybody else is 313 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: because it doesn't line up as though we had a quota. 314 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: It's unjust and the fundamentally that is just wrong. That's 315 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: the problem. 316 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 317 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: And also whenever someone who is a minority dominates a field, 318 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: which is far more statistically improbable, it's never an issue. 319 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 10: Right. 320 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: That's why the men's basketball team is great. They are 321 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: twelve black guys that represent the United States men's team 322 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: basketball team, the twelve best black guys in America. But 323 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: statistically that's almost improbable. Buck, You'd have to fire about 324 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: ten black guys to make the team look like America. 325 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: DEI and the self contradictions of race politics have made 326 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: more right wingers I think of more people, including a 327 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: lot of minorities, than any I think than almost any 328 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: other issue out there. I mean the DEI stuff. And 329 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: I heard Chris Rufo speaking about this a few days ago, 330 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: and anyway, he was brilliant. Deal with that another time. 331 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: Not all mortgage brokers are alike. American Financing stands out 332 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: as different. Look I when I had to get my 333 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: mortgage from my home, I went with American Financing. They've 334 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: been doing this for twenty five years. Their mortgage consultants 335 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: are salary based, so that means they're trying to do 336 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: what's best for you because they get paid the same 337 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: either way. They want you to have the best possible experience, 338 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: and American Financing has been saving homeowners just like you 339 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: an average of eight hundred and fifty four dollars a 340 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: month by tapping into their home's equity to pay off 341 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: high interest debt. Mortgage rates are back in the fives, 342 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: lower than they've been in some time, making a home 343 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: equity loan a great option to retire other forms of debt, 344 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: be a credit card or whatever. All it takes is 345 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: a ten minute call to one of those salary based 346 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: mortgage consultants and you can see how much you can save. 347 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: Call today. They never charge any upfront fees them. I 348 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: relied on them for my own mortgage and in fact 349 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: also for investment property too. I've used them twice. Call 350 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: American Financing eight hundred seven seven seven eighty one oh nine. 351 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: That's eight hundred seven seven seven eighty one oh nine. 352 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: Or visit American Financing dot net. That's American Financing dot net. 353 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: I'munless one A two three, three four and umunless Consumer 354 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: Access dot Org APR for rates in the five started 355 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: six point six percent for well qualified borrowers called eight 356 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 2: hundred and seven seven seven eighty one or nine for 357 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: details about credit costs and terms. 358 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: Sleeve Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines. 359 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 3: We're going to be joined by Missouri Senator Eric Schmidt. 360 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: He was the Attorney General of Missouri when they filed 361 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 3: this lawsuit. Argued today in front of the Supreme Court. 362 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 3: What do we expect the result to be? What should 363 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 3: the result be? This has the potential if the Supreme 364 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 3: Court decides it in an expansive fashion and writes a 365 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 3: truly important opinion. This could be a Times v. Sullivan 366 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: for the digital age. We'll talk about all that with 367 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 3: Missouri Senator Eric Schmidt when we come back on the 368 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 3: flip side. But in the meantime, I want to tell 369 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: you guys all about the incredible offer going on right 370 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 3: now at my pillow. In particular, they are hooking you 371 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: up with great night's rest thanks to the Giza dream sheets. 372 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: They're just that pure comfort, super soft new uh not 373 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: new to my pillow. 374 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 4: Geza Dreams sheets been. 375 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: Here for a while, but right now you've got an 376 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 3: incredible offer Queen size set for fifty nine ninety eight 377 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: King size set just ten bucks more. Use our names 378 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: Clay and Buck as the promo code and you can 379 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 3: get that pricing and free shipping Giza dream Sheets. Click 380 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: on the radio Listeners special square and when you click 381 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: on that square you'll get a great deal sixty percent 382 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: off the original My slippers too. That's my pillow dot Com. 383 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: Our names Clay and Buck as the promo code. MyPillow 384 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 3: dot Com Clay and Buck get hooked up today. You're 385 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: gonna love these Visa dream sheets. They are absolutely fabulous. 386 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: Code Clay and Bucks sleeve Travis and Buck Sexton on 387 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: the front lines of true. 388 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. We are joined by Senator Eric schmidch 389 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 2: of Missouri. He was form of the Missouri Attorney General. 390 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: Particularly important because there's a case being hurt today by 391 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court that Senator Schmidt has said is the 392 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: most important free speech case in the history of the country. 393 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: Senator Schmid appreciates you being with us, sir. 394 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 5: Great to be with you guys again. 395 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: Could you just give everybody the background on this so 396 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 2: they understand what this case is and your role in 397 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: bringing it this case that's being hurt today by the 398 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 2: Supreme Court. 399 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think if people take a step back 400 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 5: in time a little bit and remember the government's desire 401 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 5: to control the narrative, especially during COVID, But there were 402 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 5: certainly instances outside of that. And you saw Jim Saki 403 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 5: at the podium saying, we're flagging posts for Facebook. You 404 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 5: saw Joe Biden saying that these social media platforms were 405 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 5: killing people because you know, information about whether it was 406 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 5: masking or origins of COVID was different than the what 407 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 5: the narrative of the Biden administration was. And then you know, 408 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 5: remember they also created something called the Disinformation Governance Board. 409 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 5: This was all public and so in May of twenty 410 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 5: twenty two, when I was the ag in Missouri, we 411 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 5: filed a lawsuit Missouri versus Biden. And one of the 412 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 5: things that's really important is we were able to get discovery, 413 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 5: meaning we were able to get emails, text messages before 414 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 5: the preliminary in junction hearing. Why is that important because 415 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 5: what we discovered was a sprawling, vast censorship enterprise that 416 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 5: wasn't just a couple of government officials working with social 417 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 5: media companies, but a leviathan of agencies and individuals, the 418 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 5: Surgeon General United States, I mean, high ranking government officials 419 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 5: basically saying take this down or else. And then that 420 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 5: sort of happened around that timeframe. Then Elon Musk, of course, 421 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 5: by Twitter, you have the Twitter files, you have the 422 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 5: Congressional hearings, and all this stuff is now out there 423 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 5: for the world to see. And the reality is we 424 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 5: all know that. You know, traditional First Amendment law is 425 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 5: that the government doesn't get to suppress your speech. You 426 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 5: don't need to censor you in the town square. Well, 427 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 5: now we've moved into an era of a virtual town square, 428 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 5: and this sort of stands the proposition, does the government 429 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 5: get to coerce social media companies and threaten them with 430 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 5: taking away Section two thirty protections or investigations that they 431 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 5: don't do their bidding? So the government can't censorship, they 432 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 5: can't engage in censorship. They also can't outsource that either. 433 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 5: And that's what's being argued today in front of the 434 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 5: Supreme Court. 435 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 3: Okay, So for people out there who have paid attention 436 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 3: to the history of the First Amendment, probably the most 437 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 3: significant case in the last sixty years is New York 438 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: Times be solvent, and that case regarding the First Amendment 439 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: was written in an entirely different media ecosystem than the 440 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: one in which. 441 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 4: We live today. In your mind, what should the Supreme 442 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 4: Court do here? 443 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 3: Should they scrap a lot of historic First Amendment jurisprudence? 444 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 3: What in your mind would be an ideal result if 445 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: you were solving not only this case, but as you 446 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 3: well know, Senator and formerly Attorney General, you have to 447 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 3: build the entire presidential landscape based on this for a 448 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: generation to come, potentially in what is still a relatively 449 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: new Internet world. 450 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 4: So what should the result be here? In your mind? 451 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 5: I think it's really updating into the digital age what 452 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 5: it means to be a state actor. Right, and so 453 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 5: you know, if a private company like Facebook or Twitter 454 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 5: takes down a post because it violates the terms of service, 455 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 5: we may not like that, but that's not government censorship. Now, 456 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 5: I would argue they should lose their Section two thirty protections, 457 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 5: which is you can't be sued because in nineteen ninety six, 458 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 5: when the Internet was kind of brand new, Congress said, look, 459 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 5: you guys are going to be an open platform. You're 460 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 5: not a publisher, you're not making editorial decisions. You can't 461 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 5: get sued, right, because we thought this was going to 462 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 5: be a democratization of information. What we've seen since then, guys, 463 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 5: is a consolidation of that. And they actually are making 464 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 5: these editorial judgments. So you know, the Section two thirty protections, 465 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 5: you know, sort of limit their culpability and their liability 466 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 5: and these instances. And I think if you engage in 467 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 5: that kind of stuff, you should lose it. But that 468 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 5: being said, you're not a government actor. What this case 469 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 5: is saying, look, the government, if they're essentially turning these 470 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 5: social media companies into an arm of the government to 471 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 5: do their bidding, to take posts down, to de platform people, 472 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 5: to censor people, they that is a First Amendment violation 473 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 5: because that can only come when the government's acting. So 474 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 5: I think basically you're updating what First Amendment law is 475 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 5: in the digital age, and I think that's a very 476 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 5: important thing. And also I mentioned we were able to 477 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 5: get this discovery we found Doug and if we wouldn't, 478 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 5: we weren't able to get it. And Elon must doesn't 479 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 5: buy Twitter, all this stuff is still in the dark, guys, 480 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 5: and people will be called a conspiracy theorist. What are 481 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 5: you talking about, But we know Elvis Chan was debunking 482 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 5: or pre bunking I should say, the Hunter Biden laptop story. 483 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 4: We know that they had it. 484 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 5: In December of twenty nineteen. They're going around telling these 485 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 5: social media platforms look out for a Russian hack and 486 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 5: league operation and they start pre bunking it. That's a 487 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 5: government then sort of the of the guys of being 488 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 5: the SDI and all the things that can happen wielding 489 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 5: its heavy hand. Then you get into COVID times and 490 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 5: they have weekly censorship meetings. They have a special portal 491 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 5: for government and social media companies. You've got text messages 492 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 5: between the Surgeon General and senior Facebook officials saying, take 493 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 5: it down. 494 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: We've taken it down. 495 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 5: What else can we do? When you lay all this 496 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 5: out in front of the court, you see again what 497 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 5: we dubbed is a vast censorship enterprise. They've also outsourced 498 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 5: some of this flagging of dis quote unquote disinformation and 499 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 5: misinformation took places like Stanford in the University of Washington, 500 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 5: So they were very engaged in monitoring American speech and 501 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 5: if you got on the line, they were basically going 502 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 5: to these social media companies to say take it down, 503 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 5: and the email exchanges are really colorful, some of them 504 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: are angry. 505 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 4: But behind all. 506 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 5: Of it is the threat of investigations and I trust 507 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 5: lawsuits in taking away Section two thirty protections. So I 508 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 5: think that kind of coercive impact of the power of 509 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 5: the government what crosses the line. 510 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 2: Here, Senator Schmidt with US now from Missouri. So Supreme 511 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 2: Court hearing this, if they are hearing this case today, 512 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: if they rule properly, obviously we know where which way 513 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: you want them to rule, what will it mean in 514 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: terms of consequences and how enforceable do you think they 515 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: will be when it comes to First Amendment jurisprudence going forward. 516 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 5: Well, I think it'll be a very important proposition to 517 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 5: say you can't have this network of government actors working 518 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 5: hand in hand on the threat of again legal repercussions 519 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 5: silencing Americans, because that's what they were doing. And this 520 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 5: wasn't a one off thing. This was a leviasn of 521 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 5: government officials and agencies. And so I think it'll it'll 522 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 5: it'll pause that because really what they're in, what they're 523 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 5: in front of the Spring Court on right now, is 524 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 5: this injunctive relief they got a tip. They got a 525 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 5: temporary injunction. The government's appealed at the Spring Court, so 526 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 5: this ultimately would go back to a trial in the 527 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 5: merits no matter what happens. But a lot of this 528 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 5: evidence is already out there, so that's what the court 529 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 5: is looking at because we got all that discovery early on. 530 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 5: But you know, I worry. I mean, they use all 531 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 5: these examples, and you hearn from one of the justices today, well, 532 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 5: this was at once in a lifetime saying, well, that's 533 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 5: what quite frankly, that's what every tyrant, your dictator, says. 534 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 5: There's some emergency, real or perceived to aggregate, consolidate, and 535 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 5: exercise power, and the first thing they usually go for 536 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 5: is going after people who are dissenting. And so I 537 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 5: think this is really in case really cuts at the 538 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 5: core of what it means to be an American, your ability, 539 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 5: your god given right to express your point of view, 540 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 5: and what you're supposed to do with speech you don't 541 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 5: agree with is combat it with more speech, not censor speech. 542 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 5: And I think that again is why this case is 543 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 5: so important. 544 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 4: And what you just. 545 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 3: Said there at the end is actually the definition of 546 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 3: what liberal thought used to be and it's amazing how 547 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 3: illiberal now many people are. Last question for you, uh, 548 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 3: and we appreciate everything you've done on this case. 549 00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 4: We appreciate the time you're given a. 550 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: Now a lot of people are going to say okay, 551 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 3: and they understand this is a long process, right, It's 552 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: going to still take potentially years for there to be 553 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 3: a resolution on these COVID cases and what. 554 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 4: The government could or could not do. 555 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 3: Do you think your lawsuit will restrict in some ways 556 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: the aggressiveness that the current government, that is the Biden 557 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 3: administration will bring the bear on social media companies this 558 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 3: fall with the election. 559 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it's interesting. The New York Times, speaking of 560 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 5: illiberal so called liberal points of view, had a hit 561 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 5: piece on this and basically saying that me and the 562 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 5: other people are advocating this are enabling disinformation, right, So, like, 563 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 5: it's just crazy to me that these people who scream 564 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 5: about threats to democracy are willing to bulldoze democracy to 565 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 5: get their way. I'm forty eight. I remember when liberals 566 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 5: actually believed in free speech, and it kind of lost 567 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 5: the plot here. So they've claimed that this has inhibited 568 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 5: their ability to do all the stuff that they want 569 00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 5: to do. 570 00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: Which is good. 571 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 5: I think that's a good thing because again, the government 572 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 5: you can stand up for their podium guys and say 573 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 5: this is what we believe. You just can't coerce you know, 574 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 5: other people to censor speech, which is exactly what they've 575 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 5: been doing. 576 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 4: So I hope so. 577 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 5: But again I've got legislator, there's two things on them 578 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 5: to close with this, guys. I think that this has 579 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 5: to continue on in the Congress. So in the Senate, 580 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 5: I've got two bills, one of the private actors side 581 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 5: to say, look, if you're engaged in censorship, you know 582 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 5: at the private level, you're you're taking down. So if 583 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 5: you lose your Section two thirty protections, And if you're 584 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 5: a government official like any one of these people involved 585 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 5: Fauci Saki in these people, and you're responsible for censoring 586 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 5: another American speech, you can be sued individually by an 587 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 5: American as opposed to being just a you know, in 588 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 5: your official capacity. I think instead of one Attorney general 589 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 5: bringing this lawsuit, you have an army of patriots out 590 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 5: there saying I'm not going to be silenced. I think 591 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 5: that would do a lot to stop this stuff. 592 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: Senator, do you want to give us a prediction. Let's 593 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: assume that it goes your way. Do you think it 594 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: ends up being a tight one? Or could the liberals 595 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: see that there's no way that this kind of censorship, 596 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: liberals on the court that there's no way this kind 597 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: of censorship could be allowed to continue. 598 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 6: I don't know. 599 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not trying to like punt on this. 600 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 5: I don't know, because it's really hard, as you got, 601 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 5: it's hard from the questions. It's hard to know how 602 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 5: people really come down on this. So it's hard to 603 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 5: say because this is a brand new kind of case, 604 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 5: and I think there's been some favorable rulings on curtailing 605 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 5: government overreach recently. I think there's also been some good 606 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 5: stuff on social media, so I'm hopeful. But no matter what, 607 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 5: I'm very old, But no matter what, the exposing all 608 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 5: of this stuff I think is helping move hearts and 609 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,479 Speaker 5: minds in people our way. Not the media they're losing control, 610 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 5: like the mainstream, they're losing control as the gatekeepers. But 611 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 5: for you know, the average American, I think they're embolden 612 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 5: and believe in the First Amendment and see how it's 613 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 5: been abused, and I think that's a good thing for 614 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 5: us long term. 615 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: I think it goes six to three. I think Soto 616 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: Mayor probably writes a descent were wearing a mask and 617 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: we will We will see if I'm right on that one. Senators, 618 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: appreciate it, right, yeah, appreciate you being with us, Thank 619 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: you sir. All right, guys, there was a time back 620 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: in the day before cell phones, when if we wanted 621 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: to record things, we had to use old school tech, 622 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: right like camcuarders. I remember that opening Christmas presence. I 623 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: was a little kid wearing those pajamas that have the 624 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: feet built in, you remember those. My dad would be 625 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: there like, hey, do you love your present? 626 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 4: You know? 627 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: Videotaping us, Well, there's all these old VHS tapes in 628 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: the Sexton family. What were we gonna do with them? Well, 629 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: we use Legacy Box. Legacy Box digitizes those old videotapes. 630 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: You can rewatch precious memories from decades ago. They do 631 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: this by hand, taking special care with each tape at 632 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: their Tennessee base facility, no outsourcing overseas. In a few weeks, 633 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: they send everything back along with brand new digital files. 634 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: The best part of this entire process is you get 635 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: to rewatch and relive, re enjoy those memories, sharing them 636 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: with new generations of your family. You can hear those 637 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 2: voices and that laughter all over again. It's an amazing experience, 638 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: and Legacy Box makes it all possible. Right now, Legacy 639 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: Box has a not per tape sale going on. Their 640 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: normal prices are nearly thirty dollars per tap. That's a 641 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: sixty five percent discount. More than a million and a 642 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: half families have relied on Legacy Box and trusted them 643 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: with their memories. You can do the same. We have. 644 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 2: Clay and I both go online to legacy box dot com, 645 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: slash buck. That's legacybox dot com, slash buck, Legacy Box, 646 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: making Memories. 647 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: Last, Subscribe to CNB twenty four to seven and did 648 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: never miss a minute of Clay and Buck while getting 649 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: behind the scene access to special content for members on Lake. 650 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. By the way, 651 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 3: we're going to be joining the third hour hearing about 652 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: ten twelve minutes by Abigail Schreier, whose book Bad Therapy, 653 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: Why the Kids Aren't Growing Up? I think it's going 654 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 3: to be really I can't wait to read this book. 655 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 3: I know you said you read the opening. It's the 656 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 3: number one book on Amazon. It of course did not 657 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 3: make the New York Times list, which we can have 658 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: a conversation about. My book, American Playbook, was the best 659 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 3: selling nonfiction book in America the week it came out, 660 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 3: did not make the top fifteen New York Times bestseller list. 661 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 4: Abigail Schreyer's book. 662 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 3: Hit number one on Amazon, kind of a big place 663 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 3: where they sell books, and did not make the top 664 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 3: fifteen on the overall Times list. So it's interesting how 665 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 3: the Times claims to care about truth and accuracy and 666 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 3: won't even share the books that people are actually buying 667 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 3: on its list. But news out there, buck. We've been 668 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 3: talking about Robert F. Kennedy Junior. By the way, he's 669 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: going to come on the show. We'll have him on 670 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 3: again at some point soon. But there was talk that 671 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 3: he was considering both Aaron Rodgers and Jesse Ventura as 672 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 3: his running mate. Now the talk is that he will 673 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 3: announce his running mate on March twenty sixth, and it's 674 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: going to be Shanahan. I believe it's her last name. 675 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: She's the former wife of the Google executive. She was 676 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: the one who donated the money for those of you 677 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 3: who were watching the Super Bowl Super Bowl and saw 678 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: the RFK Junior Kennedy ad that aired during the Super Bowl. 679 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 3: I think she put up the seven million dollars for 680 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 3: that to air. She's been a traditional leftist I believe 681 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: lives in California, but got fired up about the response 682 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 3: to COVID, And so that is who RFK Junior is 683 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: going to pick reportedly as his running mate. Just worth 684 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 3: mentioning also that no Labels the other third party candidate 685 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 3: is having a great deal of difficulty in finding a 686 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 3: Republican and Democrat to be on their ticket. So we 687 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 3: mentioned all of this because it's important to recognize that 688 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 3: while Trump and Biden may be the standard bears for 689 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 3: the Republican and Democrat party respectively, there's still going to 690 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 3: be some of you who have Carnell West, and have 691 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: Jill Stein, and have RFK Junior and maybe even more 692 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 3: as third party candidates on your ballot, and that could 693 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 3: be very impactful. As we have said, twenty sixteen, Trump 694 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 3: might not have won without the Green Party on the ballot. 695 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty, Biden probably doesn't win without the Libertarian ticket 696 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 3: on the ballot. 697 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 4: In many of these close races. 698 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 3: So as much as there may be a tight race 699 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 3: coming between Biden and Trump, third party could be the 700 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 3: determining factor in twenty twenty four as well. 701 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: Clay, we have an important call from Mike in Mobile, Alabama. 702 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 2: He's going to ask you things that I do not 703 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 2: I do not know about apparently, Mike, what have you 704 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 2: got for us? 705 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 10: Hey, buddy, Clay, I just wanted to Yeah, I had sent. 706 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 6: An email for the you know, the VIP email that 707 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 6: my Auburn Tigers were gonna beat your Tennessee Vileves and 708 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 6: they didn't play, but Auburn ended up winning. 709 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 10: The SEC tournament. I wanted to see what you guys 710 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 10: thought about their chances and the rest of the SEC, 711 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 10: you know, Tennessee and Kentucky and Alabama. 712 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 6: I think of the top. 713 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 10: Four, but we've got eighteen then, and what's your thoughts? 714 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 4: Thank you for the call. 715 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 3: But do you just feel like this might as well 716 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 3: be a foreign language that he just played out? 717 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: No? No, what I was gonna say is, well, yes, 718 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 2: but also tigers are fierce animals, and so based on 719 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 2: the ferocity of the mascot, I think this team, what's 720 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 2: the team with the Tigers Auburn Tigers. There you go. 721 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: I think they will do well. 722 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 3: Auburn won the SEC tournament here in my hometown in Nashville. 723 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 3: My team Tennessee, Kentucky, and Alabama all three choked. They 724 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 3: finished one two three in the tournament, lost their first games. 725 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 3: Auburn got screwed. Buck sent all the way out to Spokane, 726 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 3: Washington as a four seed. 727 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 4: They were under seated. Love Bruce Pearl. 728 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 3: We in all seriousness, Ali should get Bruce Pearl on 729 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 3: whenever the NCAA tournament ends for Auburn, because Buck, He's 730 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 3: a big listener and a big fan of this program, 731 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 3: and a Jewish head coach in the SEC who is 732 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 3: furious about the way that Joe Biden has responded to 733 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 3: Israel being attacked. But in all honesty, Bruce Pearl has 734 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 3: coached the MCCABI games. He's coached the US team many years. 735 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 3: I thought it was mccaby. 736 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 2: I think it's MAC. 737 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 3: I thought it was maccaby, but somebody told me it 738 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 3: was the Hobby. I changed now maybe I'm wrong. Sorry, 739 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 740 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 4: If I'm wrong on this. 741 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw Doug Gottlieb under the bus here because 742 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 3: Doug Gottlieb I believe has also coached, and if he 743 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 3: got me crossed over on this, it's it's on him. 744 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: I'm still thinking about Tiger's important question before we dive 745 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 3: into the bloodbath Biden Gate scenario and all that Tiger 746 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 3: versus Brown Bear, who wins fight to the dead. 747 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 4: Tiger, I don't even think it's close. 748 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 3: I go round Bear got Grizzly is more dangerous than 749 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 3: the brown Bears.