1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Business of Sports. The cold heart truth 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: about the Olympic journey is not really been financially incentivized 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: in the same way that many of the professional sports are. 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: But this is a basketball involved. The NBA, will bills, 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: are licensing arm think for fifty All of those things 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: will make up what that looks like money in sports. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons why I enjoy doing on 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: Money Night Countdown and talk about some of the more 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: interesting aspects of business of sports. When you're talking sports, 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: discipline is the bridge from being good to ultimately being 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: great at whatever it is that you're trying to be 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: your accomplished as your profession. Bloomberg Business of Sports from 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Welcome to the Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast, 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: where we explore some of the big money issues in 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: the world of sports. I'm Michael Barr, I'm Scarlett, and 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: we have some topics to talk about. And there is 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: some big, big old news and it's coming from the 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: US women's and men's soccer teams. They will receive equal 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: pay under new aberd deal. Scarlett, Yeah, this is really exciting. 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,279 Speaker 1: It's something that has been percolating for years and now 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: it's finally happening. They are resetting the relationship. They've got 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: these new agreements, and most importantly, when it comes to 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: revenue from broadcast partner and sponsorships, um, they're going to 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: split that fifty fifty equally divided between the U S 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: women's national team and the US men's national team. Because 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: obviously in the past, the men got paid much higher 27 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: than the women did, and this was something there, there 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: are lawsuits, there was all kinds of publicity around this, 29 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: and finally something's being done on it. And bugged the 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: heck out of me because the women they were winning 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: tournaments all over the place man and and the guys weren't. 32 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: But then the guys would wind up making more money 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: than the women, and I never understood why. And now 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: finally we're seeing some justice. Now in February, the U 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: S national women's team they want a four million dollar 36 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: pay out and a promise of equal pay in a 37 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: land and mark settlement. And good for them. I mean, 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,639 Speaker 1: it's this is about time. Maybe it's late to the party, 39 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: but finally let's let's get something done and do it 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: in the right direction. Yeah, I'm happy that it's finally happened, 41 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: and you're right, the women's team has done tremendously well 42 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: on the field on the pitch, whereas men's team has 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: struggled a bit. And finally we're seeing parody now they 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: Let's hope that it leads to party in other leagues too. Yes, yeah, 45 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that. Now, let's hope that 46 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: you know, we can we can move this on to 47 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: golf and other sporting fields of as well, because and 48 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: the same thing. It's like the women golfers, there's a 49 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: pay and equity there and people wonder what tennis. Yeah, 50 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: tennis is another one, and it's he got eyeballs. People 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: are watching women's soccer, people are watching women's tennis, but 52 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: what is it? Is it because of the sponsorship or 53 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: or what's going on. Sponsorship is probably a big part 54 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: of it. But with name which in likeness, that changes 55 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: the balance of it, especially with a lot of college 56 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: players women college players being able to monetize on their brand. 57 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: So I think that is kind of showing everyone the 58 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: kind of numbers that they can they can gather on 59 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 1: their own. Let's move on now to another topic, and 60 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: this involves Jack Nicholas. This is kind of what we 61 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: talked about earlier. It was involving Greg Norman and his 62 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: venture into the Saudi financed l I V. Golf series. 63 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: According to what Jack Nicholas said, they came to him 64 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: the l I V Golf and offered him the job 65 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: now that Greg Norman has They said they offered him, 66 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: according to what Nicholas said, one million dollars to do 67 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: the job, and Nicholas said no because hey, I'm I 68 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: was part of the p G A tour. I helped 69 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: create that and and I want to stay here. And 70 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: good for Jack Nicholas, he said he turned down to 71 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: offers twice, one verbally and once written. Well, that might 72 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: be the case, but Phil Mickelson has more than happily 73 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: taken his place and is kind of the public face 74 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: of this new league, which has of course earned the 75 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: ire of the p g A and and others who 76 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: played the p PA. So it's it's interesting because of 77 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: course he decided not to defend his championship, and I 78 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: think that's the first time this has happened where someone 79 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: was not defending their title for anything other than health reasons. Yeah, 80 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: this is really amazing because I just wonder what Phil 81 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: Mickelson now is going to do uh, you know, it's 82 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: if he's gonna follow in Greg Norman's footsteps. Now, by 83 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: the way, what we were talking about earlier with Greg 84 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: Norman where he just caused an ire when he said 85 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: this when they asked him about the Saudi financed l 86 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: I V Golf series and questions about UH journalists Jamal Kashogi, 87 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: who was murdered. Apparently, according to what the c i 88 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: A said here, the orders came to assassinate Kashogi from 89 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: the Crown Saudi Prince and what Norman said during this 90 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: interview in London, well, we all make mistakes, and I'm like, oh, man, no, 91 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: it's it's it's not off to the start that they 92 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: wanted for this lead. So let's see how this goes. 93 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: But Nicholas, hey, I mean, you know, give it up 94 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: for him. It's he says, it's not all about the money. 95 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: And as you can see, I'm the Golden Bear man. 96 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: It's he is in the Hall of Fame and and 97 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: bless his art. He was the pe is still a 98 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: PG eight tour and I'd like to see him go on. 99 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: And speaking of going on now, he is retired coach 100 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: K he deserved every penny of this car. According to 101 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: what we're seeing from the Duke's federal tax filings from 102 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: one coach, Mike Sasowski, he got paid a total of 103 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: twelve point five million dollars last year. UH in twenty 104 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: one season, according to sportco he got three point three 105 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: million conversation benefits deferred, seven point two million expenses two million. 106 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: He did, all right, And I'll tell you he deserves 107 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: every penny ivan because I think he's one of the 108 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: greatest college basketball coaches ever. It's interesting because the figures 109 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: compiled by the Department of Education show that the Duke's 110 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: men's basketball program earned twenty two and a half million 111 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: dollars during that twenty one season. So you can see 112 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: that he's roughly half of that, I mean a little 113 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: bit more than half at this point, right, two and 114 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: a half million compared to twenty two and a half million. 115 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: And of course he has I believe, earned something like 116 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: a hundred million plus over his four decade coaching career 117 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: at Duke, which began back in I mean, it's paid 118 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: for itself insofar ash Duke has won five national titles. 119 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: It's gone to the final four thirteen different times, including 120 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: the most recent cities and before they lost to North Carolina. 121 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: Well in coach kse previous highest paid year, he earned 122 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: a total of nine point six million dollars uh and 123 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: the second highest paid college basketball coach Kansas Bill self 124 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: he made ten point two million UH. Now, if you 125 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: want to go off the court and then you want 126 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: to go on the football field, Alabama's Nick Saban earned 127 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: the most out of a football coach at nine point 128 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: eight million. Now, I know people are saying, well, you know, 129 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: it's like they make all this money and the college 130 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: kids you know about time and I l came. But 131 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: you know what, these coaches are historic coaches and it 132 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: means something to put your bill self for a coach 133 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: k or Nick Saban. They deserve every pen is what 134 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to say. They basically mold a team from 135 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: scratch in many ways. Every year. Yes, there are players 136 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: that stay, but there have been a bunch of players 137 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: do players who decided um to enter the draft rather 138 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: than continue to play out their careers for the school. 139 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: So every year you're working with new players and you're 140 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: creating chemistry, you're guiding young people, you're creating leaders out 141 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: of them. I mean, there's a reason why college basketball 142 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: coaches end up being recruited by c e O s 143 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: as leadership experts and consultants because they put together winning 144 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: teams from day one. And it's all about the culture. 145 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: Scar I should have played basketball more because right now, 146 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: do you play anything on college? I played chess, That's 147 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: what I guess. Adds it the Gary Casper off the paycheck. 148 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: The money. Look, athletes make a lot of money. There's 149 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: a lot of money for the athletic programs in any college. UH, 150 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: and now out we're seeing it UH with a name, 151 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: image and likeness. And you're also seeing it because the 152 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people, the alumni can get in there. 153 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: There's where they can donate money to a player where 154 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: they get different rankings where a Okay, I'm gonna donate 155 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: this much and I get access to the player and 156 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: this and that whatever, and it goes on down the 157 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: line whatever. So there's that area too for n I L. 158 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: But this is great. I mean, Coach K, I know 159 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm rooting from the press box, but I've never met 160 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: more of a gentleman than coach K. So you deserve money. 161 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: You got it, man. This has been the Bloomberg Business 162 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: of Sports podcast. You can catch us every Monday, Wednesday 163 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: and Thursday, and you can follow me on Twitter at 164 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: Big Car Sports and I'm on Twitter at Scarlett prow 165 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: We missed NINCHI, We'll see you, and don't forget the 166 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: download this show wherever you get your punts m hm