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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? So let's talk about themes overall for

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Speaker 1: a second, because when we first started talking about this

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Speaker 1: podcast and you were like yes, thank god, so that

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Speaker 1: empowered me to move forward. One of the things we

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Speaker 1: talked about were the themes and the everlasting quality of

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Speaker 1: the themes. And so this is our third or fourth

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. And last week the pilot episode has

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Speaker 1: ghosting and can women have sex like men? No one

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Speaker 1: cares about what can women have sex like men? Which

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Speaker 1: is super interesting, but I care about it.

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Speaker 2: Right, it was unspoken totally.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a very big deal. I still

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Speaker 1: think it's a big.

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Speaker 2: It's still a big deal. I mean, it's still a

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Speaker 2: big deal. I mean, and we went on to illustrate

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Speaker 2: that great comic effect, but it is a very big

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Speaker 2: deal can women have sex like men?

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Speaker 1: But I do feel like society has progressed somewhat like

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Speaker 1: the youngster.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it. Oh, it's already off the table

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Speaker 2: because we proved over many years that thesis. Oh so

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Speaker 2: if it's not a shock.

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Speaker 1: Got it?

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Speaker 2: Got it? Got it? Like they feel, okay, if women

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Speaker 2: have they do yes, they can because of sex and

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Speaker 1: But then the ghosting thing, everybody was like ghosting, ghosting,

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Speaker 1: So like the talk shows picked up that we talked

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Speaker 1: like that Sarah Winter character, you know, they're also picking

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Speaker 1: just gone. They talked about that on the talk shows,

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Speaker 1: and I was so fascinated by the fact that our

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Speaker 1: pilot episode theme, one of them is now thirty years

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Speaker 1: later being picked up again to be discussed on the

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Speaker 1: talk shows in the morning. Yes, yeah, it's unbelievable. So

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Speaker 1: you know, what are the what are the biggest themes

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Speaker 1: for you? What do you feel the strongest about? Are

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Speaker 1: there any that you regret?

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Speaker 2: I think the first thing that came into my mind

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Speaker 2: that I think is evergreen is am I enough? Am

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Speaker 2: I enough alone? Whatever that means? Whatever that means, am

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Speaker 2: I enough? I think am I enough is something people

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Speaker 2: If you look at any episode, it's this very big

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Speaker 2: struggle of people trying to be there for themselves. When

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Speaker 2: their friends are there for them. But it's constantly letting

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Speaker 2: the anarchists, the anarchy of saying single people are enough,

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Speaker 2: is still it's still it's still it's almost reversing now.

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Speaker 2: But the idea that I might not be enough if

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Speaker 2: I don't have someone in my life is the evergreen

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Speaker 2: I right.

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Speaker 2: I mean. Charlotte's great struggle through the whole series was

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Speaker 1: Which is so important to say, because it's not how

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, it's just that's that soulmate thing

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Speaker 1: And it's funny that I say the line, sure, of.

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Speaker 1: over time too. For a life right, absolutely, And I

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Speaker 1: want to talk to you about Carrie a little bit

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Speaker 1: Carrie now many years later, thirty whatever, twenty seven years later,

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Speaker 2: But last time, my head still attached because it had

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Speaker 1: A great attitude, a great attitude. And for me, I

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Speaker 1: Sarah, of course, none of us can be objective about

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Speaker 1: even know, I'm gonna have CYNTHI onsen too, But you

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Speaker 1: remember that time you were like, so, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know, but I've rarely seen you have your breath taken

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Speaker 3: it's totally that this is going to be charming for somebody,

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Speaker 1: How are you not?

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah bah boah like Charlotte blah blah blah ba,

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Speaker 1: Which is amazing. But I also feel the part of

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Speaker 1: And they'd have their own idea of themselves within what

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Speaker 1: I'm a Carrie. Right. Then Carrie might do something that maybe.

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Speaker 2: They well, the hero has the affair.

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Speaker 1: Exactly and this but this had to happen, right, because

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Speaker 2: But the trick is they would hate what she did

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Speaker 1: Absolutely choice, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And early, especially early, she was like she was kind

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean all the all the all the

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Speaker 2: You know, it was like, don't make fun of this,

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Speaker 1: They are fully opposites, but yet friends. Like like, that's

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Speaker 2: Mother, I know, best friends, great girlfriend, Like they have

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Speaker 2: it's like, you know, just and actually, when I said

440
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,719
Speaker 2: that the pilot the trailer was funny. One of the

441
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: images I remember was Samantha going mink coat opening, which

442
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 2: would never be allowed now total which she didn't have

443
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: going on in. She had no coat on going in

444
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 2: no way, So I don't know whose fur coat that was.

445
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: Pat Fields, I guess put a fur on with the

446
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 2: bra and panties like where it came from. And we

447
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: are so now we were we are so focused on

448
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: like how would this really happen. Pat, we like, shut up,

449
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: just wear it.

450
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: And that was the joy of Pat. She was not

451
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: literal in any way.

452
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 2: No, when we when we were doing the Paris episodes,

453
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: I was in the office and I got a call

454
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: come down here. So I went down to the make

455
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 2: the hair trailer, I mean, not to make up an

456
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 2: hair trailer. I went down to the cost anyway, I

457
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 2: got a call from Pat get down here, and I

458
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: went down to the wardrobe room. And on the middle

459
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: of remember you used to have that like round circular

460
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: couch thing where like people would sit on department stores

461
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 2: and put on shoes, there was this conical round thing

462
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: and on it was the meil Foyd dress Carrie wears

463
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: in Paris, that thousand layers of dress. She goes, this

464
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: just came from Paris. It wants to be in the show.

465
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: You have to write it. No, I said to her, No,

466
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: how would that would get that right? Would be like

467
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: how it would be like a whole like three trunks

468
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 2: just to get that there. And I gave her all

469
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: the logical reasons why it wouldn't be in this. I'm

470
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: just saying it wants to be in the show. And

471
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 2: I turned and as I walked across the threshold, I

472
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 2: just got hit with reality and I thought, yeah, it

473
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 2: wants to be in the show. And I came back

474
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: and I said okay. And that was a lesson I learned,

475
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: is like, sometimes wardrobe is better than logic. And so

476
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,719
Speaker 2: you know, they're still talking about milfoy. It was one hundred,

477
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: but reality would have pushed that right out of the window.

478
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: I was like, maybe it's followed up another thing.

479
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: I know, I went through my own Maybe that fur.

480
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: Code came from Charlotte. I don't know.

481
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, absolutely, who knows. And I went

482
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: through my own, you know, journey with Pat about this,

483
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying where I you know, in

484
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: the beginning, I was like, I don't know what on

485
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: earth you're trying to put me in woman, And she

486
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: was like, ah, let me. I was like no, no, no, you.

487
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: Don't even need to finish that sentence.

488
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's such a journey but also just such

489
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: a you know, she's an artist, and I think sometimes

490
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: you have to just give over. Do you have a

491
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: favorite a favorite outfit? The first thing that comes in

492
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: my mind is the black Swan that I wore to

493
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: Carrie's wedding, right, Zach.

494
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 2: That was good and then your little feet and I couldn't.

495
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: Run in that thing.

496
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: That was the best because it was but I mean

497
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 2: that's magic.

498
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: Okay, that's magic because like that was not like my

499
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: thing was. Like Jesus God, this thing is so much work,

500
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: because you do you remember how long Pat obsessed over

501
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: what we were going to wear. Yeah, I mean it

502
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: was a big deal because I don't know if you

503
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: remember that Sarah did not want to wear beige at

504
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: Charlotte's wedding.

505
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: Oh the Charlotte's wedding scene when you're all in, when

506
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: you're all in Vera Wang and you're wearing those beige bridesmaid.

507
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: Stresses, there's like still mad about it.

508
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 2: One of the longest days of my life.

509
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: I have pictures sleeping on the bile a thousand degrees

510
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: because it was all windows and were.

511
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: I was levitating.

512
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: Okay, I was levitating the entire time, as though I

513
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: was a person who wanted to get married and was

514
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: actually getting married. I mean nothing negative. It was a dream.

515
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: And then sj goes and cut up the Vera weing dress.

516
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: She literally shed.

517
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: It up and started putting tart and pieces on it

518
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: because no, she was out of her because Trey was

519
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: wearing a kilt. I know. Way she came to.

520
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: Me and she was like, I don't understand, and I'm like,

521
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: but it's Charlotte's wedding. Of course you'd be wearing beige matching.

522
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand what you don't understand? She's anyway,

523
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: cut to her wedding many years later, Carrie's wedding. You know,

524
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: we were obviously not going to be wearing matching bridesmaid's dresses.

525
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: But then Pat had like so many ideas and so

526
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: many I mean, I can't even remember all the designers

527
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: we went through. And I remember one night I was

528
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: sitting on my couch, you know, exhausted at home. The

529
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 1: phone rings, it might have been midnight, and She's like

530
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: black and I'm like, huh, she's going to wear black?

531
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: Are you okay with that? I'm like, yeah, Pad, you know,

532
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 1: if everyone else is okay, I'm okay. And little did

533
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: I know it was this like, you know, incredible sure creation.

534
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: It would put Charlotte in black.

535
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: For the wedding. I mean, Carrien was fantastic, That's who

536
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: would It was fantastic it was fantastic. But do you

537
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: remember those stairs? I mean, we're off on the movie now,

538
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: but like those stairs. I did literally think we might

539
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: die on those stairs. Sure, but then do you remember

540
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: how the crew guys laid on them in case we fell?

541
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? I don't remember our grips? Okay,

542
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: So we had to run up and down those marble

543
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: stairs at the public library in the dresses, in the

544
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: shoes so many times, Michael Patrick King because he was directing. Okay,

545
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: it's beautiful, Yes, there is no limit.

546
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: Next time you see the movie, you just enjoy all

547
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: the different shots. Exactly. There's many's, there's clothes from all

548
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: over there and everywhere, and everyone got in the movie.

549
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: I have to say, you're right, it's not It was beautiful,

550
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: but it was very, very hard. So I can't I

551
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: remember if it was running. No, we don't run up,

552
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: we run down.

553
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: You could walk up and run down.

554
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: Yes, we walk up, which was doable, not easy, but doable.

555
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: Going down.

556
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: We were scared, Okay, we were scared and we had

557
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: to do it in sections right, So like whatever the

558
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: camera shot was, and we were you know, like quaking

559
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: a bit, you know, in our heels like, who's going

560
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: to fall? Who's going to catch the person who falls?

561
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: Because we're all in the shoes and the tight dresses,

562
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: so our grips laid down on the marble stairs so

563
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: that if one of us fell, they could break our fall,

564
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: which I mean literally, when you think about what the

565
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: crew has gone through for us over the years, I mean,

566
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: it's incredible.

567
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: That's why when anyone shows up on our show or

568
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: movies and says these shoes are hard to walk, I'm

569
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: sorry what I'm sorry?

570
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: You will not be getting sympathy from Michael Patrick.

571
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: They wear heels when it's ten degrees out and we're

572
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: pretending it's spring. So one line, I will say one

573
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: other thing about the movie because I don't know if

574
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: I'll ever be here again. You will be no anyway

575
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: the movie. This is totally for the fans the movie.

576
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: When Charlotte Poughkeepsie's in her pants.

577
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: From all the Lord, do you have to bring it up?

578
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 2: Kristen was like, uh, I said, Kristin, You've got to

579
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: do this. It's hilarious and I'm dying. We were just dying,

580
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: and the reality was in order to get Sarah, Jessica,

581
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: Cynthia and Kim laughing and Kristin to really understand the

582
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: depth of what I wanted. I stood behind the camera.

583
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: This is going to be tough for sound, and when

584
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: it was happening, all I did was this, poo poo poo, poo, poo, poo, poo, poo, poo, poo,

585
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: poo po po po poo poo, poo, poo poo, poo, poo,

586
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: poo poo poo. So when you see Kristin when I

587
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: pushed the camera in and she goes like this, she

588
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: rolls her eyes and it's like she's rolling her eyes

589
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: that I'm still doing it. Poo poo, poo, poo, poo,

590
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: poo poop.

591
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about how I'm going to kill him when

592
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: we do.

593
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: Not break until we're done. And then when we were

594
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: in post, the sound guy was saying to me, you

595
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: almost ruined that take, I said, or did I make

596
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: that exactly?

597
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: I don't think you would have gotten it if you

598
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: hadn't done what you've done is true. One time later,

599
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't know where we were. We were somewhere doing

600
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: press and I was irritated, and you were like, what's wrong,

601
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, yeah, I'm still having to

602
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: talk about that, you know, Mexico, and you're like, what

603
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: do you mean. I'm like, you know the thing made

604
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: me do and you were like these years, all these

605
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: years later. I'm like, yes, Michael, this is our lives.

606
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: Now you have to discuss. Like I'll be on vacation somewhere, some.

607
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: Woman at the pool will be like, did you drink

608
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: the water? Like, uh, well, right before we film that,

609
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: I'll give you another Christen. Here's a here's a very

610
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: good Christen in me men actor director Dynamic. We were

611
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: about to do the naked shower scene, Oh Jesus, and

612
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: we had put decals. We measured your height, We put

613
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: decals across the logo of the hotel so that they

614
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: would block your nipple. And everything else was great because

615
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: everybody was ready to do that movie. Everybody looked great.

616
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: And we're doing it and we're getting ready to do

617
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: it and you come up to me and you and

618
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: I said, so you're ready. It's just you keep coming

619
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: at me with those big eyes. And I was like, guilty, guilty, guilty,

620
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: my big eyes. I wanted something I didn't you. It

621
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: was your internal.

622
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: You that you were like, it would be great if

623
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: we could see your butt.

624
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I had it about that part, but you

625
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: did say I did something. I did see. You're lovely, right,

626
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: But you want you wanted more. I don't think why.

627
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: Would I, because you're you. You always want more.

628
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: You keep coming at me with those big eyes. I

629
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: think about that all the time. It's so funny. Yeah,

630
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: because sometimes you know, you're like, let's go again. I

631
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: thought I'm probably doing the big eyes right now, the

632
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: Charlotte big eyes.

633
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: That's adorable.

634
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: Oh.

635
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to say my very first, very clear memory

636
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: of you. It's not that different than that. Okay, we're

637
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: at the rifle. We're at the reservoir in Central Park.

638
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: It's since Sarah and I and we're we're going to

639
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: gossip to get our heart rates up, which the du

640
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: Moir still uses the gossip people. Lady, she's very nice. Sorry,

641
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if she calls herself gossip or not.

642
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyway, you remember that it's.

643
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: So totad, is it? I remember this same social Media'm

644
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: talking about social media.

645
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, there's a very popular.

646
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: I like to go on the record that not being

647
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: on social media is fresh. That's what I'm I'm everybody

648
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 2: listening on social media, so fresh for me. I'm glad

649
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 2: you're there.

650
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: Luckily podcasts are on a different thing.

651
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are because they're intellectual.

652
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: That Michael. So we're there, and I'm sure that you

653
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: had been very much involved before. But I was in

654
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: my weird days at the beginning of being overwhelmed pretty

655
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: much at all times, right, I mean that's how I felt.

656
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, I understand.

657
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a lot, you know, in the beginning,

658
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna, we're gonna, we're doing our thing, right and

659
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: mark for for your steam, for your steam.

660
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 2: Remember him, Yes, loved him? Yes, me too. I love

661
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: him too.

662
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: And we were a little bit mean to him that

663
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: day and we were mean to him. Backstory, we probably

664
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: should have him on in the future, but we were

665
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: in the trailer. We were running our lines like we

666
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: do so that we could be on it when we

667
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: got out there for you, right, yeah, And he comes

668
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: in and we were like, hey, do you want to

669
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: run lines with us? And the guys never knew how

670
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: to be right. They were like, the guests are girls,

671
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like the date, right, So

672
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: he comes in and we say like hey, you want

673
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: we're on lines with us, and he's like, oh, oh,

674
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: I don't really know him, and we're like, oh you better,

675
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: you better, you better get on that because we're going

676
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: to go out there and they're going to really expect

677
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: us like snappy snappy. And he's like, oh really, uh

678
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, like you mean like learn the literal lines

679
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: and we're like yes, and then we kind of look

680
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: at each other like, oh no, you know, because you

681
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: know there's people in TV.

682
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: Sure they think it's a suggestion.

683
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: Exactly, exactly fine in drama, exactly, it's not where we live,

684
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: you know, at all. And that became very true when

685
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: you when you came, because you know, in the in

686
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: the pilot there was the one ad lib scene that

687
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: ever took place where they told us to fill in

688
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: our things we felt most insecure about when we're talking

689
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: about the models. Sorry, that's the second episode, not the pilot.

690
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: They so like, I talk about my thighs, Sarah touches

691
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: her nose. Wow, yeah, because Darren didn't want to write yeah, sure, yes,

692
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: which was very kind, but then things went sideways. You know,

693
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: you can't ask us to add live you don't want

694
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: to do it.

695
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but go ahead.

696
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: Well, we just go anyway.

697
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: So we're there, Mark's there, He's like.

698
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I'll try to learn my line, and we're

699
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: like we look at each other like, oh god.

700
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: You know. So then we were a little bit a

701
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: little bit mean.

702
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: Apparently like the vibe, and then he seemed very shut

703
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: down three of us.

704
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, on this show that no one even knows

705
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: about attitude. This isn't exactly this is on the Wrestling

706
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: channel exactly right. I tried to explain that to that,

707
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: like the noting the boxing. Right.

708
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 1: So then we go out there and we're doing our thing,

709
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: you know, and we're stretching, we're trying to whatever, and

710
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: I had a line and I can't remember the line exactly.

711
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: I haven't rewatched this one yet, but it's like a

712
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: line with the common and then a second, you know,

713
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: one section the comment second and there was an if

714
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: and there was a butt and I flipped them. You know.

715
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: I do this sometimes with Charlotte syntax. It's still happens, right,

716
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: It's sometimes a struggle and you come up to me

717
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: and you're very it with my big eyes and your

718
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: big eyes, and you're like, no, and I'm like no,

719
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: and you're like, do not look those words. It's not

720
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: funny that way. And I was like, okay, okay, okay,

721
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: what my god. No, I was like, oh my god,

722
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: this one's scary. This one's so scary. He's very precise.

723
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: So I look at the girls and they're like, yeah,

724
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: you know, do it, do it? So I'm like okay.

725
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: Then of course now that I'm like, you know, just

726
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: like once they points on the out, then you can't

727
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: do it, do you know what I mean, I'm like,

728
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: oh god, I've got to please this new guy.

729
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 2: Unfortunately in this scenario, I'm vague, but go ahead, go

730
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: back to how this isn't going to be bad for me.

731
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: No, it's not bad for you at all, because that

732
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: was just the first memory and now here we are

733
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: twenty million, hundred years later.

734
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: And you were right. I was right. But I also

735
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: want to put into the world that maybe your performance

736
00:37:54,120 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: of me through your magnified shame spiral of the season one,

737
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: and maybe I was direct.

738
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: You were very direct into I think I screamed, no, no,

739
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: you're just intense, intense. You're just intense when you care

740
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: about intense, and listen, if you didn't care, we wouldn't

741
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: be here.

742
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: You know, here's my growth. Tell me I go on

743
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: it just like that. When there's a guest director, they're like,

744
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: she didn't say it right. I'm like, but it's not exactly.

745
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: But it's not exactly a big joke, right, it's like

746
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: a sentence, right, and look at what they're doing and

747
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: feel what they're feeling, and then don't maybe go in

748
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: again and ask them to do it different. I want, oh, yeah,

749
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: because at this point, who is who's the horse and

750
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: who's the cart? At this point, it's like you guys

751
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: are leading. I'm leading with the riding. You're following, and

752
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: I'm following you. I think we're one.

753
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: I think we're really what we're saying, think we're one.

754
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, the first episode I directed, I gave

755
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: the that that whole horse storyline to you because I

756
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: knew you loved animals so much, which I thought, this

757
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: will be really wonderful storyline. Yeah.

758
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: It was magical to think about, magical to think about.

759
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: I think that people are going to be you know,

760
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: we talked about like all the decisions that they we

761
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: made on in just like that. For Miranda to be

762
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 2: like so outside what they want. Yes, I think they'll

763
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 2: be very pleased with Miranda the third season of injest

764
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: like that.

765
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: I love Miranda.

766
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: That there's the first everything gets broken and gets put

767
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: back together.

768
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought it was very brave, and.

769
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 2: I think you're fantastic this season as well.

770
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm so scared to watch.

771
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: Oh you shouldn't. I've seen them all always so scared.

772
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: Oh it's so nice. You're so lovely as an actor

773
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 2: and so adorable. And I will tell you every I've

774
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: told other people this, but I've never told you this,

775
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: m oh in. And just like that, every day when

776
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: you show up, you look at me and say how

777
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: are you? Very few people do that, how are you?

778
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 2: And I think that says a lot about who you are.

779
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: How are you? And then I say, I'm great? Now

780
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: hold the fake penis? No, I mean it means a

781
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: lot because down I think that fall down? Oh yeah,

782
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: fall down. Kristen does a lot of her own stunts

783
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: this year. I do really good.

784
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: I have a hat now I'm an official Jen.

785
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: The stunt lad. Yeah. Kristin did a lot of physical

786
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: stuff this year that was complicated and she had to

787
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: discover how to do it. It could go too big

788
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: or too little, and you hit it just right, especially

789
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 2: with the you know yeah yeah episode. Yeah, I think,

790
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: and just like that is this season is going to

791
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: be a kind of it's a summer show. Yeah, it's

792
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: coming out in the summer. It feels like the summer.

793
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: It feels like the darkness that we had deliberately by

794
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: design put in season one event just like that has

795
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: given way to the light and the emotions that people

796
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: are sort of needing or looking to right now. Yeah.

797
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 2: And it's the most beautiful season. How exciting. It's the

798
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: most beautiful we've never I think there's more New York

799
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: in it, just like that season three than there's been

800
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: in maybe the entire.

801
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: I felt that way. I felt like we were out

802
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: and it was glorious. It was so glorious.

803
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's everywhere. We were everywhere, from the met to

804
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: every garden, botanical gardens. Oh my god. Yeah, so speaking

805
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: of the botanic garden, you're really special in this season. Yeah.

806
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see it.

807
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: I can't wait see it. I'm always scared and excited

808
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: to watch.

809
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're thrilling, thank.

810
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 4: You, baby.

811
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: You know what I do think I want to have

812
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 1: Sita and Nicolon. Yeah, I want to hear about their

813
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: perspective of like the show that used to be and

814
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: being watching I mean coming.

815
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: Remember Serena who plays Semoa and just like that, had

816
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: that first scene where she was at the bar with

817
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: you and Cynthia and Esjay and they went up to

818
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: her after the first take and she said, I'm not

819
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: even here. She said, I'm in Sex in the City.

820
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how to be here. I don't know

821
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: what is happening right now.

822
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: But she covers so beautifully you would never never know.

823
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: But she's like, you know, I think that's one of

824
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: the things we always have to factor in from the

825
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: time we did Sex and the City when it started

826
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 2: to become kind of a thing, a big thing around

827
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: the world. When people join, you have to let them

828
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: have a moment their altitude is they have like altitude sickness.

829
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: They can't believe they're in the thing that they watched.

830
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: Also, I think it's the thing that they watch, but

831
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: I also feel and this is just from being on

832
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: other sets in the world. You know, we have a vibe,

833
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: we have like a an energy, like a thing, and

834
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: I think some of it is because of what you

835
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: kind of facilitated and mentored. As for the writers, you know,

836
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: because our writers became you know, so.

837
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 2: Included all of these their stories.

838
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's their stories, absolutely.

839
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: We just sex in the city. All sex of us

840
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: were single, and all sex of us were lepers, and.

841
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: All of you brought stories that they all thought were

842
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: our stories, but luckily they were not. They were the writers' stories,

843
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: thank god. But you were with us every day, like

844
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: it was such a group, you know, a powerful, powerful group,

845
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: feeling like we were in it together. And yes, we

846
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: were on camera, but you guys were holding us up

847
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: off camera. You know, you were writing beautifully for us,

848
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: you were directing us. You were always there for us

849
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: if we needed you. You know, like if I had

850
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: a director, like that time that one director thought that

851
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: I would think it was sexy that the sweat fell

852
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: on the on the divorce papers, and I was like, no,

853
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: she does not think that sexy. She somehow likes him

854
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: for like besides that, you know what I mean. And

855
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: he's like, no, that turns you on. I'm like, no,

856
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: do's no turn me on. I was like, where's Michael

857
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: Patrick King? And they were like, he's upstairs. I was like,

858
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,479
Speaker 1: Michael Patrick King, I need some help down.

859
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 2: Here, and there you are, you know what I mean?

860
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: Like we you know, you need backup in what we do.

861
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: It's ours, yeah, and it's ours.

862
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: People are visiting and it's our house, right.

863
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 1: And but you created that for us, you know, you

864
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: empowered us to take that ownership and to invest ourselves fully,

865
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: you know fully, Like not only did you create it,

866
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 1: I think you expected it, but you also led by

867
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: doing that yourself. Yeah, like like there was never there's

868
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: not a detail that you are not fully invested in,

869
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: right and and involved in, you know. And sometimes yes,

870
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: costume can be like Michael Patrick doesn't like it.

871
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: You know, but this is this is how we create.

872
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: What we create, everyone's invested and that was you leading

873
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: and sir Jessica, you know, being so invested in everything

874
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: as well, right, Like no banana clips, you know what

875
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: I mean.

876
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: I can't see a banana clip without thinking of it,

877
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: even it's scrunchy, because it was like we wrote the

878
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: episode where she's like they break up of her scrunchy.

879
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: I know it's hysterical, but this was true. Everything is

880
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: everybody that worked on it. And then it's kind of

881
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: curated to be something that hopefully people at home can

882
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: be on the journey with, or be delighted by, or

883
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 2: be heartbroken by, or be furious at. For a week,

884
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: we know what we're doing. If you're mad at it,

885
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: that's on purpose, that's by design, wait and see what

886
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: happens the next week. And what I love about the

887
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: Sex and the City start was it was week to

888
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: week to week to week to week, and we even

889
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: actually started that within just like that again, it was

890
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: week to week, two week to week, and it builds.

891
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 2: And now on Netflix you have people somebody just told

892
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: me that their twenty year old daughter is Somebody came

893
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: over and said, what are we doing tonight and she said, no,

894
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: we're watching the season two Finelle. Again she's twenty a door.

895
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: Well, my friend's kids are watching it. It's very bizarre.

896
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: I would say that it doesn't feel.

897
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: Stale, which is amazing.

898
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: It's well made and it's unfortunately for us, no fortunately

899
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: for us, unfortunately for civilization. It's they're still in need

900
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: for women to be held up as individuals in society.

901
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: At whatever age, they still have to fight for the

902
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: individual sense of who they are because society wants them

903
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: to be other things still, from the current politics to

904
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: the emotional vibes still in the world. So it's really

905
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: thrilling that we got to participate in this map. Yeah,

906
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: this emotional map. Yeah. And still for people who watch

907
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: the show, absolutely this is a map that these four

908
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 2: went down, or these five now or these seven last year.

909
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 2: Where are you on your map?

910
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely? And it's such a joy.

911
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: And it's a joy to have been in your personal

912
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 2: life for so many years.

913
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: I know we have lived a life, haven't we.

914
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have, we have to.

915
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: You remember when we went horseback riding at Nevis in

916
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: the water, Yeah, like we could go on. I mean

917
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 1: we remember, I mean Morocco.

918
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 2: Like I remember when we were filming in the Sahara

919
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: Desert and we were in a hotel in quotes that

920
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: was in the middle of the desert. To drive in

921
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: you had to go through under two paper machet camels.

922
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: It's so true.

923
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: And it was like over.

924
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 2: Then one night and somebody had said to us, this

925
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: is a vortex of energy and the desert. And I

926
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: said to Kristin, how how how did you sleep us?

927
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 2: And I she said, I didn't. I don't know what's

928
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 2: happening I was on the roof. I was just walking

929
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: in circles under the stars and the Sahara sensitive she was,

930
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: she was totally He's been walking all night long on

931
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: the roof, the canopy of stars in the middle of

932
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: the Saharadas, the.

933
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: Milky Way, literally the entire Milky Way. But we had

934
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: a very big day of work the next day, so

935
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: maybe not the best. But I couldn't sleep, you know,

936
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: I can never sleep right. It's like my situation. But

937
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: I mean, everything turned out fine, but for Michael had

938
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: to be tortured by me the next day by torrential tears,

939
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: and I'm very I love that story.

940
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: I love that story. We had we had dunes that

941
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: couldn't be walked on because they would.

942
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: Look walked on ruined by the crew, so.

943
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: We had to we we scoured the dunes with this

944
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: giant chain all these New Zealand crew members so that

945
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: it would look Christine and Kristin was at the top

946
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: of the dune on a camel and I'm at the

947
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: way down at the bottom of the dune watching her

948
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: fall off a camel.

949
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: With a walking right.

950
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 2: Saharah does he yeah, a thousand degrees, She's falling off

951
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: the camel into stunt guy's arms.

952
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: There yet, and the stunt guys don't speak English.

953
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: No, putting her back on the camel, falling off the camel,

954
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: back on the camel, falling off the camel, back on

955
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 2: the thing, turn the camera around, fall on the blanket,

956
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: fall on the ground.

957
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: Fall on the mattros.

958
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 2: Okay, so she finally accomplishes the impossible, and I now

959
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: know the scene's done. So I start up, I leave broom,

960
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: I leave my headphones. I'm surprised you remember this. It's

961
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: significant to me. I start up the dune towards you,

962
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 2: and you're coming down the dune, big puffs of sand

963
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: on your feet, trudging down the dune on fire, and

964
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: you're like, you never came up. You never told me

965
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 2: I was doing a good job. You just kept saying stuff.

966
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: And she just burst into tears and I said, I'm sorry,

967
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 2: you were perfect, and I couldn't get She just walked away.

968
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 2: And the New Zealand crew said, I can't believe you

969
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: let them talk to you like that, and I said,

970
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: they're actors, not bankers. And if you would never put

971
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: the camera on a banker, Wow, these emotions have to

972
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: be there. But I was just like, that is what's

973
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: needed to get that and you just have to realize

974
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: it's But I was really boom. I know I was

975
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: in the Sahara desert in the last fifty years. Was

976
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: from your eyes. It's so true. It's so true.

977
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: I was because I was up there and I just

978
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 1: thought he wasn't happy, right, Because he was I couldn't

979
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: see him.

980
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's part of this is not the sound of happiness. No,

981
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: got that game goain.

982
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: So I thought he wasn't happy, right. So I've done

983
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 1: it like eighty million times. And it was scary, okay

984
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: because camel, Yeah, because the camel's really tall. You don't

985
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: realize how tall the camels are. To do was his name.

986
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: Cynthia was not pleased to be on that camel.

987
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 2: So do it again, do it again?

988
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? We did it so many times. Cynthy was cranky

989
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: as I'll get out.

990
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: And a thousand degrees and on a camp it was

991
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: very okay, crazy couldture craziness rather in sanity.

992
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 4: Hats Yeah.

993
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: Oh, I got that thing upstairs that she made for me,

994
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: the coat of Many Colors. It was like Joseph's Cod

995
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: of Many Colors.

996
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

997
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: Do you remember way also, do you remember when we

998
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: had to walk over the dew ye and you had

999
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: to squat down so he could see our heads.

1000
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: He's on the other side.

1001
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: Again you have to brush the thing right, so we

1002
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: had to bend down like in a chair position.

1003
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: But we're in our heels. But we're in our heels

1004
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 2: in the Sahara desert, you know.

1005
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: Which was like I could see their heads insane, right,

1006
00:51:58,920 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: So I.

1007
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: Kept screwing lower and they're literally squatty, and then they

1008
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: have to stand up and.

1009
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: He'd be like glamorous and we'd be like what I mean?

1010
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: And then I remember one time Pat so, so we're

1011
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: in the crazy outfits, right, and we're hiding behind the

1012
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: dune and the squat trying to like glamorously rise up

1013
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: and you know, traverse the sand dune in the heels,

1014
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: and you know, we're getting ready to go, and they've

1015
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 1: brushed the sand. They've brushed the sand and everything's perfect.

1016
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: We're waiting, We're looking at each other like well, what

1017
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: do we do? And then all of a sudden pass

1018
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: like stop. Mollie's got like two racks of belts and

1019
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: the two.

1020
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: Of them trudged through the freshly brushed sand.

1021
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 1: Because she doesn't like my belt. We're all like, who

1022
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 1: she met at? Who she met at? What's she coming from?

1023
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 2: Exactly?

1024
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: She liked my belt. So two racks of belts come

1025
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: across the dune and she's like, wow, man, We're just like,

1026
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 1: oh Jesus, you know what I mean. But she fixes

1027
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: the belt and then we have to do it and

1028
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: we pulled it off. I don't know.

1029
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it was it was unlike any other experience

1030
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: any actor will ever have.

1031
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 1: And it's not over.

1032
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: No.

1033
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: We love you, Michael Patrick King.

1034
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: I am delighted to be here. Are you a Charlotte

1035
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: The answer is yes, and you're also everyone else, But

1036
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: what about you? I am definitely Carrie and Miranda. When

1037
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: I was single, I was Samantha. Yeah, and I think

1038
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: that I might be a closer to the new Charlotte.

1039
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you do care.

1040
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean it was the one I was

1041
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 2: furthest from of course, which is so interesting is how

1042
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 2: close we got.

1043
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well that's that's the journey, isn't it. Yeah,

1044
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: thank you for being here.

1045
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 2: My pleasure. We love you, love you too. Oh kiss

1046
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: it wo