1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Today's show is going to be really cool. Eric Trump 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: has a new book out talking about the weaponization of 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: the private sector against his father, the government, the federal 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: government against his father, and state governments that attacked his family. 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: He was subpoenaed countless times, and you'll be shocked to 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: hear him talk about how much money it costs to 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: defend themselves from these frivolous and ridiculous lawsuits. Senator Cruz 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: and I had the privilege of sitting down with Eric 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: to talk about his new book, and I want you 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: to hear what he had to say. 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: You know, Ben, I got to say, we try to 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: count on being honest and candid with our viewers and listeners, 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: and yet you just claim that we're going to take 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: a break from politics, and this is about as far 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: away from taking a break from politics as I can 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: possibly imagine. Today, we are very pleased to welcome our 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: friend Eric Trump, President Donald Trump's son, who has a 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: brand new book. A brand new book came out this week. 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: The bookook is entitled Under Siege, My Family's Fight to 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: Save Our Nation. He is in the midst of his 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: nationwide book tour right now, and and in classic Trump fashion, 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: he's on the list, and there's only one place to 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: be on the list, and that is at number one. 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: It's the number one best selling book in America right now. Uh, 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: and Eric, this is your first book. It ain't bad 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 2: debuting at number one. Congratulations and welcome. 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 3: Mister senator. 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 4: Now it will probably be my last book as well, 29 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 4: because we're not I'm not doing this again. You know, 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 4: the return, the return on time of books is especially 31 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 4: when you put your heart and soul into it. But yeah, 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 4: we're number one on Amazon, We're number one on all 33 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 4: the lists, and it's I mean, it just went viral. 34 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: I think. You know, people in this country are pissed off. 35 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 4: And and mister Centaer, you you've done a better job 36 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 4: fighting against a weaponization of government that I would say 37 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 4: just about anybody other than maybe Donald Trump, right, who's 38 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: had to face all of this. And you know, I 39 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 4: became the pinata in this whole fight because I was 40 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 4: the one guy who didn't have constitutional protections. I was 41 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: a civilian, you know, I was the guy that was 42 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 4: running the Trump organization. I was the guy that ran 43 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 4: everything that was outside of Washington, DC from my father 44 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 4: when he went into the White House and what they 45 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 4: tried to do to us, what they tried to do 46 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 4: to our family, what they tried to do to this nation, 47 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 4: what they tried to do to you and all your 48 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 4: viewers on this show is unthinkable, and somebody had to 49 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 4: materialize it because there's the greatest governmental corruption this nation 50 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: has ever seen. 51 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: Well, you're right, and they launched everything they had at 52 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: your father, at your family, four separate indictments. On top 53 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: of that, the asinine case from the New York Attorney 54 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 2: General trying to argue that somehow global international banks are 55 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: innocent wifes who are deceived and are apparently are unable 56 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: to value real estate because you know, giant banks have 57 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: never had to value real estate in the past. I 58 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: will confess, for me, maybe the most absurd moment of 59 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: all of it was when the idiot judge in New 60 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: York valued bar a Lago at eighteen million dollars, which 61 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: I'll confess I saw it. 62 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 5: I would have bought it for that. 63 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: I saw your dad not shortly after that, and I 64 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: offered it on the spot. I said, mister President, I'll 65 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: give you twenty million right now. Well they too, I mean, 66 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: as you as you know, you can't buy a hot 67 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 2: dog stand in Palm Beach for eighteen million dollars, and 68 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: and that notion that, to me, it was the most ludicrous. 69 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 2: It was a relatively small detail of what was a 70 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: pile of idiocy upon idiocy. But you guys were the 71 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: targets of it, and and it it cannot have been fun. 72 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: Mister Center. 73 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: I became the most opeenid man in American history for 74 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 4: doing absolutely nothing wrong. I'm not Hunter Biden. I never 75 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: had a speeding ticket in my life. I've lived a 76 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 4: very straight, very good life, hard working guy, no games, 77 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 4: never even approached a line, you know, raised right, you know, 78 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: And and they tried to destroy us. I was the 79 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 4: one that was getting calls from the FBI. You remember 80 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: the Rushia hoos very well because you were probably the 81 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 4: best person at fighting against it. Eric, I hear you 82 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: have secret servers in the basement of Trump were communicating 83 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 4: directly with the Kremlin. I go, excuse me, I literally started, 84 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 4: mister Center. I started laughing. I started laughing. I go, 85 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 4: First of all, you don't keep servers in basements because 86 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 4: basement's flood. Second of all, were like largely cloud based, 87 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 4: and they did it so a greedy woman could get 88 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: about three extra votes, right, and they used that as 89 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 4: their explanation as to why she lost. 90 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: And then it was. 91 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 4: Impeachment number one, and then it was impeachment number two, 92 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: and then it was them attacking Cavanaugh. And then it 93 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 4: was one hundred and twelve subpoenas that I received for 94 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 4: again doing nothing wrong. And then it was a weaponization 95 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: of every attorney general and district attorney in this country, 96 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: whether it be Latitia James or Alvin Bragg or Cy 97 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 4: Vance or Fanny Willis and her boyfriend in Fulton, Georgia, 98 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: you know, or Jack Smith or Comy and everything that 99 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: they did. Then they spied on her campaign. Then they 100 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 4: did the weaponization of Faiza. Then they took my father 101 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 4: off the ballot in Colorado, and then they took him 102 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: off the ballot in Maine. And when that didn't work, 103 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: they tried to silence his voice and get rid of 104 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: his First Amendment, right, So what did they do? Took 105 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 4: him off of YouTube, took him off of Twitter, took 106 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 4: him off of Facebook, took him off of in inst 107 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 4: And when that didn't work, when we popped up truth social, 108 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 4: what did they do? They had every judge imposed gag orders. 109 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 4: On him, and then they raided mar A Lago. I 110 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 4: was the guy that got the call when thirty FBI 111 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: agents were outside screaming in a phone to me turn 112 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 4: off the security cameras at at mar A Lago. They 113 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 4: did everything they could, and then they de banked us, 114 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 4: and then they deplatformed us. They tried to bankrupt us, 115 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 4: they tried to imprison us. And I'll never forget walking 116 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 4: out of that jail cell with my father in New 117 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: York after the thirty four felony accounts right which have 118 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: all been overturned, and I said, Dad, we either win 119 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 4: the White House or you and I are in jail 120 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: for doing absolutely nothing wrong. That's how diabolical the pendulum was. 121 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 4: And they were doing it to the people in this 122 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: country as well. They were debanking them. They were going 123 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 4: after their pastors, they were going after their churches. They 124 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 4: were weaponizing the irs. You know, they were skipping great 125 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 4: people who had worked their butts off their entire year 126 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 4: because of DEI hires and literally rooting upward mobility of 127 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 4: people across the country. They were corrupting their children. They 128 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 4: were teaching them revisionist history. This siege wasn't just against 129 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 4: the Trump family. It was against all of us, it 130 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 4: was against both of you. It was against every person 131 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 4: that's watching us right now. And people are pissed off 132 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: in this country, and that's why this book went to 133 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 4: number one. 134 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: You mentioned mar Lago a second ago and getting that 135 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: phone call. Can you just explain how insane that day 136 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: must have been because I know people we saw it 137 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: on TV, but you were on the inside. And when 138 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: you're getting a phone called, they're telling you to turn 139 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: your cameras off. 140 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: So like, what time of day is it, what are 141 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: you doing? 142 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: It was about seven fifty eight o'clock in the morning 143 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 4: when I got a call from my team. They say, 144 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 4: the thirty FBI agents and they have a search warrant. 145 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: I go, what are they searching? I'm not sure if 146 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: I understand, Like we have like such a great relationship 147 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 4: with law enforcement. It was bizarre at the time. I go, 148 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: how would I not know about this? From Secret Service? 149 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: How would I not know? I mean, they didn't give 150 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 4: anybody warning. And I'll never forget, I said. I finally 151 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 4: figured out what they were doing. And I said, did 152 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 4: anybody let my father know? And it was my team, 153 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: really and they said no, And I go we'll call 154 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: him right now, and we met in his office and 155 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 4: that's when he wrote up that beautiful tweet, as you remember. 156 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 4: And the FBI was so damn pissed that we sent 157 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 4: out that tweet. They wanted to have the narrative, they 158 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 4: wanted to be able to release a story, and instead 159 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: my father writes that beautiful tweet. You know, right now, 160 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 4: the FBI is raiding the famous mar A Lago my home, 161 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: you know, and the world went crazy. The world couldn't 162 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: stand it. It was the worst decision that they ever made. 163 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 4: And remember, Senator, they said it was on behalf of 164 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 4: Nara right National Archives. Does anybody I went on Hannity 165 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: that night, I go, does anybody actually believe a glorified 166 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: library sent thirty FBI agents to invade Mara A Lago 167 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: with with firearms? 168 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: Give me a break, right? 169 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 4: And then sure enough it comes out there was Joe Biden, 170 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 4: and it was Merrick Garland, and it was the whole 171 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: host of criminals that weaponized the entire system. But I'll 172 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 4: never forget that call. Thirty FBI agents outside of mar 173 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: A Lago. They searched Milania's room, they searched Baron's room, 174 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 4: They took attorney client privileged documents. 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Center 211 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: you've been at the top of that list. It's hard 212 00:09:59,080 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: to get there. 213 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: Well, I will say, Eric, you should brace yourself. It 214 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: doesn't matter how many copies of the book you sell. 215 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: The New York Times is going to insist that that 216 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: like left Handed Transgender Witches is the number one book 217 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: in America, and to be fair, in the New York 218 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: Times newsroom, it probably is the number one book in America. 219 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 2: But if you get outside the New York Times and 220 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: to the rest of America, there are a lot of 221 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: people right now that are going to Amazon. Go to 222 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: Amazon right now by Eric truck Trump's book, keep it 223 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: at number one, Annoy a liberal by two, buy one 224 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: for yourself, and buy one to give a liberal just 225 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: to drive them crazy, and and and to say, explain 226 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: to me again how you think weaponization is a bad thing. 227 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: Because because your your liberal friends, to the extent you 228 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: have any that they haven't defriended you, they're not going 229 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 2: to have an answer to that. Eric, tell me, what 230 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: was your dad's reaction when you went in and and 231 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: told them, okay, the FBI agents are here. I assume 232 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: he was pissed, but like, what was his immediate reaction 233 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 2: when you tell him that. 234 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: It was actually remarkably calm. 235 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's you know, I've seen my father 236 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 4: pissed many times, but he doesn't get pissed off in 237 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: situations of kind of like great anguish and stress. Right, 238 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 4: it's no different than Butler, but you know, almost foreshadow 239 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 4: Butler is the same thing. It's it's I probably would 240 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 4: have been pissed in Butler, and I think he was 241 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 4: actually remarkably calm, especially in the aftermath of what happened. 242 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 4: And you know he was always his commist in the 243 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: worst moments, always, I mean and center. You saw many 244 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 4: of them. I mean you were there for many of 245 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 4: them in so many different ways. You know, he never 246 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 4: let emotion fly. It was it was a very he goes, 247 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: you gotta be kidding me, all right, honey, meet me 248 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 4: in my office. You know, we're going to write up 249 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: a statement. And that's when he let that truth fly. 250 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 4: And you know, the rest is history. I mean, for 251 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 4: the next month, they had helicopters buzzing over mar a 252 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 4: Lago and you know the scenes of that front gate. 253 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: You remember this, the cop car from the front gate 254 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 4: of mar Lago. I mean, mar Lago became, not that 255 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: it wasn't probably already, but he became the most famous 256 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 4: property in the world. Based on on that raid and 257 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 4: what they did, and then the aftermath of all of it, 258 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 4: we find out Jack Smith was bringing in classified folders 259 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: and effectively staging photo shoots on the office floor of 260 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 4: my father's you know office. But you know, as I 261 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: said before, guys, I mean they were going through Malania's closet, 262 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: they were going through Baron's room. They literally they took 263 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 4: his medical records, right like hip a related records. 264 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: That pissed off the judge. I can only tell you. 265 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 4: They took attorney client documents right That also really pissed 266 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 4: off Aileen Cannon, the judge on the case. 267 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: You just you couldn't believe it. And then you know, again, 268 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 3: all of this was stage. 269 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 4: You think Donald Trump just leaves classified folders fanned out 270 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 4: perfectly on the floor. I mean, it was all staged. 271 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: It was all set up. They wanted to imprison him. 272 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 4: They wanted to take his voice. They wanted to imprison him. 273 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 4: They wanted him behind bars. They didn't want him to 274 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 4: be able to campaign. They wanted to weaponize the system 275 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 4: in any way, shape or form, and they weren't able 276 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 4: to do it. 277 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: A lot of people remember the deep platforming, and you 278 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: mentioned that earlier, and you go back to the end 279 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: of his first term in office. But one of the 280 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: things you mentioned earlier on was they tried to ruin 281 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: your businesses by d banking, you can you explain for 282 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: people that don't understand just how critical that was in 283 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: a time and the Trump organization. Mean, you've been handed 284 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: the family business to run it, and now you're finding 285 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: out you can't even have banking the way that you 286 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: need to have banking to literally run businesses, whether you're 287 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: big business or a small business. A lot of people 288 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: listening right now. If you don't have a bank, you 289 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: don't have a business. 290 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ben, it was that times one hundred. 291 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,119 Speaker 4: I mean they they literally it was coordinated by the administration, 292 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 4: There's no question about it. And they called up and 293 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,599 Speaker 4: they said, listen, congratulations, you cancel the account. I was 294 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 4: getting these letters. I got one from Capital One. They 295 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: had three hundred bank accounts. And these aren't like baby 296 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 4: bank accounts. These are massive commercial buildings that have hundreds 297 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 4: of tenants, you know, thousands of people working in these buildings, 298 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 4: hundreds if not thousands, of vendors, heavy real estate taxes, 299 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 4: I mean people, hundreds and hundreds of people depend their 300 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 4: livelihoods depend on on these businesses. 301 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: They've got complicated lock. 302 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 4: Box provisions and loan you know, loan documents, thousands of inputs, 303 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 4: coming in like this, you know, and they just called up. 304 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 4: You know, your accounts are going to get closed. You've 305 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: got one or two days to move them, and congratulations, 306 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 4: you're done. All because we wore a hat that said 307 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 4: make America great Again. 308 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: That was read. 309 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 4: These were commercial buildings, these were condominium associations, these were 310 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: small golf courses, these were you know, residential shops, these 311 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 4: were scrow accounts, things that had nothing to do, nothing 312 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 4: to do with politics whatsoever. And they canceled us like 313 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 4: we were dogs. Capital One was the worst. JP Morgan 314 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 4: was horrible. Bank of America was horrible. First Republic was terrible. 315 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 4: But it wasn't just the banks. It was platform Shopify. 316 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 4: Shopify literally gave us a notice they do all the 317 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: e comm platforms in the middle of the night, turned 318 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: off our accounts like we were nothing right. We were 319 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: selling golf polos that we have, you know, from mar 320 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 4: A Lago, and they did everything they could to hurt us, 321 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 4: to turn off the rails right again. They wanted our 322 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 4: voice gone, They wanted us bankrupt, they wanted the name 323 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 4: off of every building. They wanted us thrown out of 324 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 4: New York. You had Letitia James. That was trying to 325 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 4: repossess our assets. I mean, it was almost like forfeiture. 326 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 4: It was not constitutional. Hence the reason the appellate courts 327 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 4: throughout the case five zero and we got a resounding 328 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 4: victory two weeks ago or three weeks ago. 329 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: Guys, they tried everything they could. 330 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 4: And because I was the guy outside of Washington, DC, 331 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 4: because I ran the company, it all fell on me. 332 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 4: That's how I became the most subpoened person the history 333 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 4: of this country. Having never done a damn thing wrong. 334 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 4: They wanted to get to my father coming through me. 335 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: That Now, were these business accounts, personal accounts both, I mean, 336 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: how many accounts are we talking about? Roughly like what. 337 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: Five five hundred? 338 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 4: You know, lots of those being business accounts, all of 339 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 4: them being us. You know, my wife has a like 340 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 4: athletic clothing line. You know, JP Morgan Chase wouldn't open 341 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 4: up an account, so you know, for her, she's not 342 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 4: Donald Trump, she's not the Trump organization. They did this 343 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 4: to everyone in the family. If you even came close. 344 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 4: You know, if you even came close. I have a 345 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 4: little farm with a couple buddies. They canceled that account. 346 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 4: Doesn't wear a Trump name. It can't they were indiscriminate 347 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 4: if it was six degrees of sep the narration from Trump, 348 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 4: they canceled us and one guys, you know, I'm an outspoken, 349 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,479 Speaker 4: you know, a big fan of of you know, cryptocurrency. 350 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 4: That's how I found crypto because I realized how quickly 351 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: financial institutions can be weaponized against the American people and 352 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 4: realize that there's nothing that can be done on you know, 353 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 4: using traditional financial institutions that can't be done better faster, cheaper, safer, 354 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: and more efficiently using cryptocurrency. 355 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: And I'm I'm the biggest proponent of it. 356 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: Did did they even even purport to give you any 357 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: explanation or do they just say oh, it's canceled like 358 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: like that that they didn't Was there any details or 359 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: you just get phone calls or get an email and say, okay, 360 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: this this account's done. 361 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 362 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: Other other than a lot of those you know a 363 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 4: lot of the people that worked in the in the 364 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: banks who otherwise said this is the most I can't 365 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 4: believe it. I can't believe what my bank's doing. This 366 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 4: is all political, That's what they're saying in the corridors 367 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 4: every day they canceled you for political reasons. There's no 368 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: other explanation. They're telling us, you know, they're telling us, 369 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 4: we can't talk to you ever. 370 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: Again. 371 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 4: I was unbelievable, and I would not wish that on 372 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 4: my worst enemy. To take the race of being able 373 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 4: to pay employees. These are housekeepers, these are janitors, these 374 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 4: are engineers, these are security officers, these are drivers, hospitality workers, 375 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 4: to not be able to pay them a salary, all 376 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 4: because somebody wanted to politicize a system against a candidate, 377 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 4: because they happened to be a conservative and they believed 378 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: in making America great again. 379 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: SATA, this is a story that we're hearing about the 380 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: weaponization of the private sector, not the gover, but the 381 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: private sector against the Trump organization. The moment that he 382 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: just said, five hundred bankcounts just shut down, I'm shocked 383 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: by that. I think you were as well. 384 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: That number. I'd never heard anything remotely close to that. 385 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: I mean, that really is stunning. So you're running your 386 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: families outside businesses, you get these calls. What do you 387 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: do when you're given what you said twenty four hours 388 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: forty eight hours notice, Like, were there banks that were 389 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 2: willing to welcome your business or or what did you 390 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 2: do with five hundred accounts being canceled. 391 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 4: You had a lot of attorney generals and you had 392 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 4: a lot of government institutions that were going to these 393 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 4: banks saying, don't even think about it, don't touch that account. 394 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 3: You know. 395 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 4: Letitia James was doing that to the bonding companies when 396 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 4: we had to after the initial ruling, when we had 397 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 4: to post a six hundred million dollar bond. By the way, 398 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 4: that that was like five times the size of the 399 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 4: Boeing bond that made them, you know that literally, I 400 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 4: it was. It was the biggest bond ever seen in 401 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 4: the country, you know. And she was going to the 402 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 4: very same institutions saying, don't even touch that bond. So 403 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 4: we had to post a bond based on the court 404 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 4: before we had everything overturned, and she was going to 405 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 4: the biggest assurance company saying, you don't touch that bond. 406 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 4: You know, you're registered in New York and if you 407 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 4: touched that bond, I'm going to think less favorably on you. 408 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 4: That's how badly they weaponize the system. What do you 409 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 4: do when you get those letters? You want to crawl 410 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 4: under your desk, And honestly, I had I had probably 411 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 4: one hundred people in the company that didn't sleep for 412 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: a six month period of time, who were distraught. And 413 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 4: thank god we had enough little local banks. You know 414 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 4: that that you move all the accounts. I'm thinking about 415 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 4: it right to these little local branches who want to 416 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 4: take your money. But these weren't the JP Morgans, these 417 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 4: weren't the Bank of Americas. They were still a little 418 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 4: They were small, little mom and pop regional banks that 419 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 4: did the right thing and honestly probably saved us based 420 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 4: on the fact that they were willing to do the 421 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 4: right thing. This didn't just happen to us. I was 422 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: on the campaign trail, I'd hear from people every single day. 423 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 4: You know, my bank canceled me. Why well, my company 424 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: makes the spring, and the spring goes in a fishing reel, 425 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 4: and that fishing reel sold at bass pro shops, and 426 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 4: bass pro shops sells twelve games duck hunting Ammo, and 427 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 4: they thought the affiliation. I heard this everywhere I went. 428 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 4: I heard it from the crypto guys. I believed in bitcoin, 429 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 4: I believed in stable coin, I believe in the future 430 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 4: of kind of modern finance. And because I believed in 431 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 4: crypto currency, my banks canceled me. Well, COVID canceled me, 432 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 4: Bank of America canceled me. Guys, I heard this all 433 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 4: over the place. You know, we need to make this illegal, 434 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 4: and it is. It's illegal and a lot of states 435 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 4: and under a lot of banking clauses. But the fact 436 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 4: you can literally I mean, could you imagine if if 437 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 4: AT and T or Rising just decided to cancel all 438 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 4: conservative cell phones? 439 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 440 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: Right. 441 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 4: If you can't bank, you can't survive. If you can't bank, 442 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 4: you can't eat. If you can't bank, you can't pay employees. 443 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 4: And yet they turned us off like we were dogs. 444 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 5: How much money do you think that Trump? 445 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: When you guys were out during the four years and 446 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: under siege like this, how many business deals got blown 447 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: up because people were afraid even to just do business 448 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: with you, because they're afraid their business would be affected 449 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: negatively and they could be targeted. I'm assuming that was 450 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: a reality for quite some time. 451 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: Well, I talk a lot about it in the book. 452 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 4: I mean the reporters that just made their whole livelihoods. 453 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 4: David Farrenholdt from the Washington Post and others, you know, 454 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 4: made their entire livelihoods calling up you know, vendors of 455 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 4: ours calling up our employees, calling up brides and grooms 456 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 4: that we're gonna get married at one of the properties, 457 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 4: one of the hotels. 458 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,239 Speaker 1: And they were harassing people that were getting married at 459 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: Trump resorts. 460 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 4: Oh I have I have more emails than you can 461 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 4: possibly imagine. You know, I hear you're gonna go get 462 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 4: married at at M mar Lago. Oh really, you know 463 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 4: this might have to make the front cover of a 464 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 4: respective paper, you know, can you please give me comment? 465 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 4: And these brides and grooms were saying, I just want 466 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 4: to get married in peace, you know, I just you know, 467 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 4: there's a beautiful property. I'm not a political person. I 468 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 4: just you know it's it's it's a five star property. 469 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 4: I love the place. It's convenient. My family lives nearby. 470 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 4: Whatever the hell of the reason they were doing that, 471 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 4: They were extorting employees. They were going up to employees, 472 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 4: and they frankly tried to do it to me. Hey, 473 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 4: you tell us anything about Donald Trump, will let you go. 474 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: You know, all your problems. 475 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 5: They tried to turn you against your own father. 476 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: Alvin Bragg, Are you kidding me? 477 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 4: The Cyrus Vance, all of them, they they weaponized every 478 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 4: da in and ag to try and flip every single 479 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 4: person to say anything negative, to get any negative testimony 480 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: against Donald Trump for their own political purposes. Absolutely, that 481 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 4: was the whole game they played. And no one in 482 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 4: our company broke. 483 00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: Guys. 484 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 4: This was the siege that I dealt with every single day, right, 485 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 4: I mean it was it was all of these factors 486 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 4: that came together, all at once, all the time, doing anything. 487 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 3: They could to to to just chop us off. 488 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 4: At every single I mean when they made up the 489 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 4: dirty dossier, when they made up right, I mean, they 490 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 4: have stories about prostitution in there, about golden you know 491 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 4: what's right? What do you think they were trying. They 492 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 4: were trying to divorce my father. They were trying to 493 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 4: destroy his marriage. They were trying to break up our family. 494 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 4: That's what they were trying to do. Also, a greedy 495 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 4: woman could get, you know again, two more votes. These 496 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 4: people are sick, These people are deranged, and there's been 497 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 4: zero accountability for any of it. And as a son 498 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 4: who fought by my father's side every single day during 499 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 4: this battle, somebody had to tell this story. Somebody had 500 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 4: to tell the inside perspective of the lens that a 501 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 4: corrupt government will go to besides just spying on campaigns 502 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 4: and despise just you know, raiding homes, you know, all 503 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 4: the things that they did to try and destroy us, 504 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 4: to try and destroy make America great again, and try 505 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 4: and construer destroy conservatives all across the country. 506 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: Look, it was unmitigated evil and it was driven part 507 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: of it was driven by hate. Today, the defining characteristic 508 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: I think of the Democrat Party. 509 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: Is they hate your father. 510 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they hate your family. I mean that anything 511 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: connected to your father they hate. And I think it also, though, 512 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: was a deep contempt for democracy. I think every one 513 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: of these indictments, I think the weaponization that we saw 514 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 2: their underlying terror is that the voters would do what 515 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: they did in November of twenty twenty four and vote 516 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: to re elect your father. And this was all about 517 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: undermining democracy and preventing the voters from doing that. You know, Eric, 518 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: you mentioned earlier that you described yourself as as the 519 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: most subpoena man in America. How many subpoenas did you 520 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: get and did you testify a lot of times? Were 521 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: they demanding documents? What subpoenas were coming? 522 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: In one hundred and twelve subpoenas I sat in more 523 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 4: depositions than any human being in the history of depositions. 524 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: And by the way, these are like big boy subpoenas, right, 525 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 4: They're all coming from you, your close friend Elizabeth Warren 526 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 4: as we like to call her Pocahontas, and and many 527 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 4: others we turned over. I mean, they would ask for 528 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 4: document discovery, you know, please give us every email in 529 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 4: the company, and they would list a thousand words. But 530 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 4: aside from that, they would list national and international. Well, 531 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 4: all our hotels are Trump International Hotel, and all our 532 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 4: golf courses are Trump National Golf Course. You could probably 533 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 4: see where this is going. Every email signature of every 534 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 4: person in the company either has the word national or 535 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 4: international in it. That's their fishing expedition. I actually brought 536 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 4: this to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court specifically 537 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 4: told them you can't fish, right, and they did it. 538 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 4: They did it any way. The judges didn't give a damn. 539 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 4: They wanted to find any comma that was out of place, 540 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 4: and they couldn't. I mean, in the Letitia James trial, 541 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 4: literally Deutsche Bank was on the stand saying that Trump 542 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 4: was the best lender that they've ever had. Right, we 543 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 4: made them, hundreds of millions of dollars paid off, every loan, 544 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 4: paid it off ahead of time, never missed a payment. 545 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 4: Even in the darkest days of COVID when they made 546 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 4: a shutdown our properties, we never missed, we never faulted, 547 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 4: we never breached a covenant. And then one day I 548 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 4: wake up to the nightmare of your fine six hundred 549 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 4: million dollars for doing nothing wrong with banks that loved us, 550 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: that testified that they loved us. I mean it was 551 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 4: you know, and that's because you had a crooked judge. Again, 552 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 4: got overturned five zero at the next court. But they 553 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 4: rigged out the entire system. And you're seeing them do 554 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 4: that right now, right You're seeing them do that in Washington, DC, 555 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 4: where ninety four percent of the cases that go in 556 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 4: front of the lower Course are are literally you know, 557 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 4: going against the administration and then they all have to 558 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 4: go up on a po and get overturned. But guys, 559 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 4: the beautiful thing about the story is we won, right. 560 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 4: I mean, the media loss, The media lost their credibility. 561 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 4: No one likes the mainstream media. I mean, my wife 562 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 4: is on Fox News on a Saturday and nine pm, 563 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 4: and she's getting four extra ratings of CNN on the 564 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 4: same time slot on a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday in primetime slots. Right, 565 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 4: no one likes the mainstream media. ABC's dead, NBC's dead, 566 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 4: CNN's dead. An independent voice is like, these podcasts are 567 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 4: winning the day. 568 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 2: And by the way, she she is doing an awesome job. 569 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 2: I had a chance to be on her show, and 570 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: she's she's a great interviewer because she's relaxed, she's having fun, 571 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,719 Speaker 2: she's asking real questions and and it's night and day. Uh, 572 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: you know, I I will occasionally do do CNN. Poor 573 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 2: Ben was on CNN for six seven years. I actually 574 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 2: think he has a padded room and he like like 575 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: puts on a straightjacuality, remembers those times. 576 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 5: Fighting comedies for seven years. 577 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 4: Hey listen, I just came off Caitlyn Collins about twenty 578 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 4: minutes ago. 579 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: Right, So it's not some prayers. 580 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's so bad. Let me ask you 581 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: when all of this was coming in, And it is 582 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 2: not exaggeration to say there has never been a political 583 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: leader subject to more weaponization, more assaults, more insanely unfair 584 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: attacks than that than your father has been. Was there 585 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: ever time that that you felt yourself giving in to 586 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: despair and and do you think your dad ever did. 587 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, it's like we're like masochistic, We like we 588 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 4: like pain or something along those lines. Right, It's like 589 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 4: a weird trade, right, And I think it served us well. 590 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 4: But now I think we were so pissed off at 591 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 4: that point. We wanted to fight, and we wanted to win. 592 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 4: And we want to save the Constitution. We want to 593 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 4: save the American flag. We wanted to save religion in society. 594 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 4: We want to save the you know, Second Amendment. We 595 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 4: want to end end wokeness. We wanted to stop the 596 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 4: dei nonsense, you know, men my size swimming in women's sport. 597 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 4: We wanted to save the greatest country in the world 598 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 4: against absolute lunacy. And so we never gave up. We 599 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 4: never stopped fighting. We went out there and we punched 600 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 4: back every single day, and we did that as a family. 601 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 4: I never left that stage, And honestly, I've never been 602 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 4: more proud of a human being in my life. 603 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: All Right, So, our guests with us is Eric Trump center. 604 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: You and I were just talking with him about this, 605 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: really his family being under siege. You talked about these 606 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: big boys as part of that is to financially hurt you. 607 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: What did you, guys, spend just doing the fighting of 608 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: all the lawsuits against you during that four year period. 609 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: How much did it cost you? 610 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 4: Roughly four hundred million, guys. I laugh when people, oh, 611 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 4: Trump is profiting off of government. I go, wait, wait, 612 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 4: excuse me. If you want to come in, I'll break 613 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 4: down the finances you want to Trump's profit. We spent 614 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 4: four hundred million dollars to defend ourselves against nonsense, the 615 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 4: fact that we did not have secret servers communicating with 616 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 4: the Kremlin, the fact that Don wasn't a Russian agent. 617 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: Remember you had Adam Schiff out there every single day. 618 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 4: Donald Trump Junior is a Russian agent. 619 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 3: Guys. 620 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 4: If he wasn't, if he wasn't protected by the speech 621 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 4: and debate laws, you would have, honestly, the guy. 622 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 3: Would have been worth a zero. 623 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 4: He would have been living in a shoe box based 624 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 4: on the fact that you would have sued him for 625 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 4: slander and taken everything that he ever had. It was 626 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 4: all made up. They did everything they possibly could to 627 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: take us down. We spent over four hundred million dollars 628 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 4: between that. You know, Letitia, you know Alvin Braggs side Vance, 629 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 4: you know, if Fanny, I mean, I could. 630 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: Go on and on the raids the mara alag What 631 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: was the worst to deal with between Alvin braggsie Vance, 632 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 2: Leticia James jack Smith? Who was the worst? 633 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 4: Probably did Letitia if you want to know the truth, 634 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 4: I mean, it was so corrupt and I don't know 635 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 4: Alvin Braggbaus. You had Brshawn, I mean, Judge Barhawn's daughter 636 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 4: is like that, the head digital fundraiser for the Democratic Party, 637 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 4: and the guy wouldn't recuse himself, and literally you'd be 638 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 4: sitting in these courtrooms, guys, and I would not leave 639 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 4: my father's side. I sat next to him every single day. 640 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 4: If he was there, I was going to be there 641 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,959 Speaker 4: as a son to support him, you know. And most 642 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 4: of the time some of these cases I wasn't gagged 643 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 4: in so normally I was the guy in the courthouse steps, 644 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 4: you know, shouting and yelling at the cameras as to 645 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 4: what the hell was actually going on, because that's the 646 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 4: only way you could communicate a message. But guys, I mean, 647 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 4: you had liberal and I mean liberal reporters who were 648 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 4: in that courtroom shaking their heads saying none of this 649 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 4: makes it. I mean, they shut down all of Manhattan, 650 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 4: Lower Manhattan for a hundred thousand dollars payment that my 651 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 4: father didn't even make, made by a lawyer. They indicted 652 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: him thirty four times. I mean, you know, al Capone 653 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 4: had had one felony indictment. They indicted my father thirty 654 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 4: four times for one hundred thousand dollars payment, by the way, 655 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 4: by a district attorney who ran on the premise, you know, 656 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 4: of reducing what you know, just decriminalizing just about anything. 657 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 4: You know, you can shoot somebody in the face in 658 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 4: Times Square and it was decriminalized, and you're gonna let 659 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 4: them out, and you know you're gonna have community policing 660 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 4: and all sorts of nonsense. I mean, he ran on 661 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 4: the premise of literally emptying Rikers Island so you had 662 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 4: no criminals in there. Yet you know, thirty four felonies 663 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 4: in six month period of time is shutting down New 664 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 4: York in the FDR drive every day over one hundred 665 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 4: thousand dollars. 666 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't believable. 667 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: If if only your father were mugging people in Times Square, 668 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: then Alvin Bragg would never have prosecuted him, But instead 669 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: he committed the unspeakable sin of not only being president 670 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: of the United States, but being an extra ordinarily successful 671 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: and bold president of the United States, which which is 672 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: an unpardonable sin. All right, we don't have much much 673 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: time left, but but I want to take it a 674 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: little bit lighter and and ask what was it like? 675 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 4: Like? 676 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: Your father is is unique. I've never in my life 677 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: have I met anyone remotely like your father. He and 678 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: I have spent a lot of time together. He has 679 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: extraordinary courage. But before he was president, what was it 680 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: like growing up as a kid with Donald Trump as 681 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: your father? Like, like, like, how what was he like 682 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: as a dad when you were ten? 683 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: Honestly, the greatest dad you can ever imagine. 684 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 4: Expected big things from us, right, I mean every day 685 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 4: I go give him kiss before I went to school. Honey, 686 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 4: no drink drinking, no drugs, no smoking. You better get 687 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,479 Speaker 4: good grades. And by the way, never trust anybody. Right 688 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 4: he did once in a while I had that he 689 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 4: never never trust anyone. Hey, that's probably that was gonna be. 690 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 4: I said, I've probably benefited us pretty well, so amazing guy. 691 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 4: You know, listen, we're spoiled as hell, and that we 692 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 4: lived in you know, Trump Tower. We had beautiful roof overhead. 693 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 4: We were always well fed. We we had the best education. 694 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 4: But we were never handed money. We're never handy cash. 695 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 4: If we wanted something, If I wanted a fishing road, congratulations, 696 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 4: you're working for it. I got on our construction sites 697 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 4: when I was eleven years old, doing demo, doing electrical HVAC, 698 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 4: you know, running back hose excavators. You know, I grew 699 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 4: up working with my hands on our construction sites with 700 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 4: many of the guys that work for me today. And 701 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 4: you know what, he wanted us to learn a trait. 702 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 4: He wanted us to learn the value of a dollar. 703 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 4: And by the way, he wanted us to be tired 704 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 4: as hell at the end of the day. You know, 705 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 4: because listen, don't give Type A kids or any kid. 706 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 4: But don't give Type A kids money or free time, 707 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 4: because bad things happen. And he was an amazing father. 708 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 4: He is an amazing father. And everything we've ever done 709 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 4: we fought together, whether it's real estate, whether it was 710 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 4: the Apprentice. I was on that for seven seasons, and 711 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 4: then in politics. I mean, when he decided to run, 712 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 4: he said to us, he goes, you know, kids, let's 713 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 4: do this. You know, I was on Meghan Kelly. I 714 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 4: didn't know what the hell immigration was. I mean, Senator, 715 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 4: this was not my world. I built, you know, hotels, 716 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, I'm in the middle of box. 717 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 5: I got a wall, and now you're on TV. 718 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 4: I've got ninety illegal immigrants around me and I'm battling 719 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 4: all of them. And I don't know the first damn 720 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 4: thing about illegal immigration, right. I mean, like, this is 721 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 4: not the world that we came from. But my father's 722 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 4: a remarkable guy. My mother was an amazing powerhouse and strict, 723 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 4: demanded manners, demanded respect, demanded work ethic and either the 724 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 4: greatest parents you can ever imagine. I spent a lot 725 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 4: of time in underseage talking about, you know, being raised 726 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 4: by them, and you know, it was unique in so 727 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 4: many ways. But they they did everything they could in 728 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 4: this strange world that we lived in to ground us 729 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 4: and make sure we turned out to be hard workers, normal, 730 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 4: you know, and didn't have any of these kind of 731 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 4: Hunter Biden esque problems. I don't have a laptop from hell, 732 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 4: you know, I don't do finger paintings selling it to 733 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 4: you know, foreign nationals all over the world. You know, 734 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 4: never married my you know, my brother's ex wife, like, 735 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 4: never did that kind of stuff. No drugs, no, you know, 736 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 4: no perversion. I was always a good kid who believed 737 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 4: in God and believed in hard work and you know, 738 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 4: lived an honest life. 739 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 2: Eric, I can't tell you how many times, dozens, if 740 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: not hundreds of times people have conte that one of 741 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: the things they admire most about your dad, uh is 742 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: is you and your brothers and sisters. And listen, it 743 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: is hard for for any successful person to to raise 744 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 2: good kids. It's challenging. There's a lot of pressure and 745 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: and you know, I I know know your entire family, 746 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 2: and I will say literally people early on throughout the process, 747 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: they'll comment, well, you know, somehow his kids are like 748 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: like not messed up and incredibly successful and put together 749 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: and and I mean, it's all right. 750 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 3: Let me ask you. 751 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: Let's let let's say we have some young parents that 752 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: are listening to this podcast. Are there any lessons a 753 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: young parent by the way, uh, you know Ben Ben 754 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: has young kids, I have teenage. Are there any lessons 755 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: any lessons from your dad that that young parents should 756 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 2: know or lessons that that you've tried to apply. 757 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, keep them poor and make them start working early. Honestly, 758 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 4: I mean that's what it is. Keep keep them poor, 759 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 4: don't don't give type A kids money and don't give 760 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 4: them endless time. That's just a bad recipe, right, And 761 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 4: you know, I can't tell you, guys how many friends 762 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 4: I had, you know, who were peers who went to 763 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 4: school with me, And you know, three quarters of them 764 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 4: ended up in rehab and and a lot of them 765 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 4: went down bad roads. And guess what they were getting 766 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 4: ferraris you know when they're you know, sixteen years old, Like, 767 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 4: what do you ever want to aspire to to get 768 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 4: if that's if that's how you're being raised. I mean, 769 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 4: does it surprise you that those people don't have work ethic? 770 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 4: Does it surprise you that they would go down bad roads? 771 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 4: And my father would never let that happen to us, 772 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 4: And you know he made us work our butts off. 773 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 4: And believe me, if I wasn't good at what I 774 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 4: did real estate wise, I would not be in this chair. 775 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 4: I mean, forget about bapotism for a second. It you know, 776 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 4: if we weren't incredibly capable, believe me, I wouldn't be 777 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 4: running one of the largest real estate empires anywhere in 778 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 4: the world. And he made us work, and he made 779 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 4: us prove that we were good at what we do, 780 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 4: and we fought every single day. And we're an incredibly 781 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 4: tight family. And he's a remarkable person. He's my best friend. 782 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 4: I love him to death, and I'm so proud of him, 783 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 4: especially in a week where he's accomplished as much as 784 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 4: he had. I am so damn pros out of what 785 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 4: he did and what he's accomplished and the hell of 786 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 4: a journey. Guys, It's all worth it. This is all 787 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 4: worth it. The siege is all worth it based on, 788 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 4: you know, the great things that are happening to our country. 789 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 3: And our world. 790 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: Don't forget share this podcast please with your family and 791 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: your friends wherever they are, and I will see you 792 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: back here tomorrow.