WEBVTT - Your Machine Cut Of My Hand!! 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:06.080 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:10.200 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joke, Getty. 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:17.680 Arm Strong and Getty and no He Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:26.600 Senator Fetnman remains hospitalized for observation and so the doctors 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:30.080 can fine tune his medication after a fall caused by 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:34.280 what's called a ventricular fibrillation. That's a serious cardiac event, 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.640 which the Mayo Clinic says is the most common cause 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:42.159 of sudden cardiac death. Essentially, the senator's heart momentarily stopped 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.200 pumping blood to the rest of his body. Fetaman suffered 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:47.720 a serious stroke in twenty twenty two and afterwards was 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:52.120 outfitted with a pacemaker defibrillator. His probably saved his life. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.920 The senator suffered only minor facial injuries in the fall. 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:57.440 Joking afterwards in a statement quote, if you thought my 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.200 face looked bad before, wait until you see it now. 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:00.960 Wow. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.600 The sort of heart attack that usually is that's the 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.880 end all of a sudden your heart stopping anyway, he 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:14.600 had because he's equipped with something that that's wild. So 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:16.640 his new book is out and getting a fair amount 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:17.080 of attention. 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:18.760 Yeah, I was just going to bring that up. 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:23.039 Yeah, it's said to be pretty sincere and disarmingly good. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.039 Well, The New York Times hated it in their book 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.080 review because it didn't explain any of the how you 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:31.200 reconcile that with Trump's this or that or whatever, and 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.880 I know, absolutely shut up. And it sounded pretty interesting 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.280 to me. It might actually be a political memoir that 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.639 he's writing, you know, very early in his career. 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:41.119 That'd be worth three. 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:45.119 Part of it is about his stroke and crushing depression. 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.840 Right, he says he should have quit. Yeah, the depression 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.440 thing is interesting. The day after he won got elected 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:56.760 to the US Senate, he said he felt nothing and 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.600 contemplated killing himself because he's just like I just I 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.040 don't I don't care, I don't want to do this job. 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:03.160 I don't care about anything. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:07.320 Yeah that wild Yeah, yeah, huh. 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.360 What an interesting dude he is. I'm surprised he's so 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.440 heavy still, just as watching him walk around and his 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:15.799 shorts in his sweatshirt. He's a giant guy. I would 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:17.960 have thought with all his health problems that it had 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:19.720 to been some way to get his weight down. 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.720 Yeah, you would think, And I would think with this 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:26.280 latest scare he would just resign and go live his 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.480 life maybe, although maybe he feels like he has a 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.120 mission and he thinks, well, I don't know how much 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.040 time I have left, so I'm newly motivated. 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:34.560 Who knows well a lot of the stuff that we 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:38.280 beat him up for when he was running for senate, 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.120 how it was like one of the gonna be one 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:41.920 of the worst things in US history to have this 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.080 person who'd never accomplished anything, living off their mom become 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.320 a US senator. Blah blah blah, blah blah. But he 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:51.880 was running against doctor Oz. He is horrified by that himself. 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:53.840 That's one of the reasons he needed to become a senator. 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:54.400 He was just so. 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:58.359 Disgusted with his life of doing nothing and accomplishing nothing. 0:02:59.120 --> 0:02:59.480 Yeah. 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.639 Yeah, well, and I guess in the book he expresses 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:07.240 an actual philosophy of government and governing in contrast to 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:12.359 Kamala Harris's utterly unreadable farce of a book. Just to 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.120 pick one point of comparison, but anyway, I might flip 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:15.359 through it. 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.200 I don't know, Yeah, it makes sense me free copy. 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.200 Hey hantson, I actually saw some tease of some clips 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.440 he did. Katie Kirk, Katie Kurk, who used to be 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.120 a big deal in news as a podcast. He was 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:26.960 on with her and she was really trying to corner 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:29.400 him on a couple of things, and it looked pretty 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.880 good the clips I saw on Fox and Friends this morning. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:33.000 Maybe we could play those later. 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.440 So on a totally different topic, brought this up at 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:37.280 the end of last hour and ran out of time. 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:42.760 But here is this company in Minnesota, Wolf River Electric, 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:46.520 which is, by the way, a great American success story. 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:52.160 Four close friends started it in twenty fourteen with their 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:56.000 hammers in a garage pretty much, and it's grown into 0:03:56.040 --> 0:04:00.560 the state's largest solar contractor. And these guys start noticing 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:04.280 all sorts of yes, Wolf River, Wolf River, Oh, it's 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:04.880 quite a name. 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.840 Yeah, it's a cool name. There's probably a real Wolf River. 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.040 That's what I was wanting. They just crafted in there 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:17.320 and cast a line and catch wolf, I assume. 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:18.200 So yeah. 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:22.040 But anyway, so these guys there, they are ah their mascot. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.279 So they started noticing they were getting a bunch of 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:29.040 contracts canceled and were utterly mystified by this, some longtime customers, 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.240 and they researched it, tried to figure it out, and 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:36.719 people kept saying, yeah, you know, you got busted by 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.840 the state and had to pay a legal settlement for 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:46.440 deceptive sales practices. And the guys were like whaw because 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.000 they'd never been sanctioned by the state and anyway, nobody 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:52.000 had ever accused them of that. But it was made 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:58.360 up by Google's Gemini system. In fact, it delivered right 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.640 at the top of the page and mentioned the legal 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.320 settlement populated automatically when they typed Wolfer of electric in 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:09.599 the search box, and so cancelations were piling up because 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.400 you can't unring a bell, so that these guys are 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.039 desperately trying to get the word out. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.800 No we weren't, but it was more or less fruitless. 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.080 So the executives decided they had no choice but to 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:27.800 sue Google for defamation. And it's one of six at 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:30.600 least six defamation cases filed in the US in the 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.800 last two years over content produced by AI tools that 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:38.360 generate text and images. And the interesting part of it, well, 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:41.040 there's a lot of interesting parts of it. But unlike 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.920 other libel or slander suits, these cases seek to define 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.840 content that was not created by human beings as defamatory, 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.000 which is a novel legal question for one thing, there's 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:51.560 no intent. 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.080 Well right, and from everything I understand about AI, and 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.880 I spend a lot of time reading and listening about AI, 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:06.400 the people that built these various AI machines, they have 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.720 no idea why their thing hallucinates. They don't want it too, 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.680 They wish they could stop it. They can't, so I mean, 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.520 so it's the opposite of intent. They're spending billions of 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:15.240 dollars to try to figure out how to make it. 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:19.480 Not do that, because you know, it's so damaging. If 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:23.880 you can sue some AI thing for making something up 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:25.080 and it cost you money. 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:26.560 That might be the end of AI. I don't see 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:26.840 how you. 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.200 Can continue to have AI if it can be on 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.200 the hook for hallucinations. 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.400 Well you would if they if their profit exceeds their losses, 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:37.240 simple as that, they would just have a fun. They 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.040 would have to settle lawsuits all the time, Like there 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.560 are various businesses that get sued a lot. 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.320 And they just it's part of the you know, the 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:44.039 balance sheet. 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:48.400 But anyway, Eugene Vollock, the really fascinating UCLA professor is 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.719 a great crusader for freedom of speech, says there's no 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.360 question that these models can publish damaging assertions. 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:59.440 The question is who is responsible for that? Well, first, 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.000 there's how nobody. Nobody's responsible for it. 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.359 You built a machine that chopped off my hand. 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.599 Yeah, but it's not supposed to. I don't know why 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:12.320 it does. I wanted to stop. I've got all the 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.400 smartest people in the world working on making a machine 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.760 that doesn't chop off people's hands. And I can't send your. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.600 Machine chop off mister Getty's hand. Yes or no. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.800 I would shout at you and court and that Jerry 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.080 wouldn't even have to retire. They would render a verdict 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.560 in my favor to your knees. But now you're working 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:28.480 my side of the street. 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:33.320 That then AI can't exist unless there are costs don't 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.080 overrun their profits. So it goes around chopping off people's hands. 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:37.120 But it's still profitable. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.120 So what are you gonna do? Yes? No, yes, all right. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.400 There was this TAK show host who's a second big 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.960 Second Amendment guy. He filed the first of the defamation 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:51.040 cases in Georgia in twenty twenty three. Some journalist I 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.600 was asking about this guy that she wanted to interview 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:58.040 him and all, and the chat GPT blurted out that, Yeah, 0:07:58.040 --> 0:07:59.880 the other thing you probably ought to know about him 0:07:59.920 --> 0:08:03.800 is he's been accused of embezzlement, and he liked the poor, 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.320 you know, Woolf River guys like I've never been accused 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:11.720 of embezzlement. That case was dismissed because they noted the 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:15.960 journalist didn't trust the claim. It quickly was verified not 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:21.120 to be true. But that sort of law is absolutely evolving. 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:28.200 Robbie Starbuck filed in April against Meta, the right wing 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:31.680 influencer known for his campaign against DEEI has. 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.600 Been incredibly affected. He's a hero for that. 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.360 He was scrolling around on x he found nimmage containing 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.479 false information about him that had been generated by Lama, 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.960 one of Metta's AI chatbots. Has Lama come and gone? 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.760 Is it returned to the andes? I've never heard of Lama. 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:48.640 I don't know I have. 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.360 I just downloaded Gemini yesterday, so now I have Grock, Gemini, 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:54.160 Claude and chat GPT. 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.199 That I will compare for everything I ever ask. 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:00.560 So anyway, the ex posts that mister Starr was in 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.560 the US Capitol during the January sixth riots and had 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.199 ties to QAnon and mister Starbucks says, I was in 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.080 Tennessee at home, and I have nothing to do with QAnon. 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.600 That has settled in August without ever formally responding to 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:14.439 the complaint. 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:19.760 My concern about hallucinations because I caught I think it 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:21.920 was chat GPT, I don't remember which one. One of 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.720 them absolutely made up something and I was talking about 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:28.120 I was asking it questions about Ulysses, which I'm still reading, 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:32.640 and uh, just because I'm reading the book, I knew 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.120 it was wrong. I mean, it completely made something up 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:39.840 that was just made up. But because I knew the 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.839 subject matter, I knew that. How all the other things 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.800 I've asked these various chatbots about that I don't know 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.560 much about. How many how many times have I been 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.840 completely misled and maybe repeated things on the air that 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:53.679 are just completely made up? 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.280 I don't know. It's an unknown unknown. Yeah. 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.040 How often do I get R for you by this 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.760 sort of stuff? 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And again we're weird fast. 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:35.680 That's right. More on the waist to hear. 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.560 During their White House meeting earlier this week, President Trump 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:46.960 and partedly sprayed Syrian President Ahmed al Sharah with his 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.959 victory forty seven fragrance and long story short, we're at 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.040 war with Syria. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.640 It might be a war with Venezuela soon. Finally, Venezuela 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.720 is going to get what they've had coming for some time. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:02.920 I don't know what we're going to do there. Give 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.719 me something to watch, though. I want to tell you 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:09.560 about this new book that I might actually read. I 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.640 read a lot of books. This is called the Zorg, 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.600 a tale of greed and murder that inspired the abolition 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:19.040 of slavery. Zorg was a slave ship. It's a horrible story, 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.720 just a horrible story in which they've got this slave 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:27.920 ship that's headed to the New World from Africa. Has 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:33.200 happened so often, and they get into ferent problems is storm, 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:37.240 et cetera. The slaves are all dehydrated and dying, and 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.560 he decides to throw them all overboard and drown them 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.160 because the insurance claim would be cheaper than the loss 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.000 on the health of the slaves when they got there. 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:49.040 Good Lord, horrible, right. The point of this book, well, 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:50.640 not the point of the book. I shouldn't say that 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:54.520 that's a scratch, that that's the wrong thing to say. 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.040 The point really is how awful slave the slave trade was, 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.320 which is not a surprise to anybody. But the reason 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.680 the point of this column by John mccorter Black Guy 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.520 writes for The New York Times that we really really 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.320 like is that this is going to be the first 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.560 book about the slave trade that really brings to light 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.800 how many black people in Africa were involved in selling 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:19.800 other black people into slavery, and the first book that 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:21.680 really treats it fairly because. 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.600 It happened a ton and that's. 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.360 Glossed over, of course a lot, by the sixteen nineteen 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.280 project and all other different things. 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.080 According to this particular book. 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.560 Now, the people, the captains of the ship the Zorg 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.160 that threw the black slaves over and drowned them just 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.720 for the insurance claim they were white guys. Okay, so 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:40.640 this is not like to try to make it all 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:42.800 it's all bad all the way around. The whole thing 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.040 is bad. Plenty of boad Slavery was omnipriss slavery was 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.120 omni prison and it was bad and lots of bad people. 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.280 But according to these historians John Thornton and Linda Haywood, 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:53.360 who wrote the book, in their study of the slave 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:58.760 trade in the early sixteen hundreds, about ninety percent of 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:02.880 the Black African sold as slaves in English and Dutch 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:06.600 North America during that period had first been captured in 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.560 war by fellow Black Africans. 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.800 Ninety per set right. 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.600 The captives were sold to white traders for golden weapons 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.720 and then fed into the hungry maw of the plantation 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:19.600 economy here in the New World. 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.920 And we all know that story from that, I'll point on. 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:24.840 Yeah, the Marxists would tell you, well, they just did 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:28.800 that because of settler colonialism. They were desperate or something something. No, 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:33.000 they took slaves's conquest and or routinely, but they found 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:35.480 a more profitable use for the slaves selling them. 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.560 So they did that instead. Was that racism. See, that's 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:42.920 the question. Slavery always come down to racism because in 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:44.880 for your race, superior race, that sort of stuff, was 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:45.440 that racism? 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:46.880 What about Arabs? 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:51.040 You know, enslaving Europeans and Arabs enslaving Arabs and Europeans 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:52.360 and slaving other Europeans. 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:53.440 And I could go round the. 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.000 Entire globe, but I think you'd probably get the message 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:57.880 about fourteen regions. 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:02.720 In Yeah, between that and land acknowledgment, like ignoring the 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:06.000 fact that every square foot of land has belonged to 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.560 lots and lots and lots of different people, and practically 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.920 everybody who took it took it violently. 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.600 Including the such and such tribe you just tearfully recognized, 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:19.280 you phony half wit? 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:20.800 Right? 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.920 Can we ever get to a place of honesty about 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:24.600 all this stuff? 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.000 Hey? I just had a great idea. That's two great 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:27.960 ideas in two days. 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:31.760 The first one was the ruin the entire Country Newsome 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.400 twenty twenty eight t shirt, which is now for sale 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.600 at Armstrong and getty dot com. People are really digging. 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.320 I can't wait to get mine. My second grade idea, 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:40.880 and it's just flitted out of my head. 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.760 That'd be a shame mixed mayonnaise one thousand island dressing. 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:46.880 That's it. No, what were we just talking about? 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.480 Oh right, right, Oh, every time you're at a land acknowledgment. 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:53.040 If you live in the sort of place that does 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.520 that sort of thing, just say in a loud voice, 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:56.880 who had it before them? 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.560 Oh that's perfect, that's all you have to do. That 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.760 is perfect, one quick sentence. I should I got to 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.359 teach my son that because that comes up in his classroom. 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:11.119 Who who did they take it from? Yeah, that's that's mighty. 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:12.720 Who did they take it from? 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:18.520 Oh, that's fantastic for the win Armstrong and Getty Zo 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:19.160 ran mom. 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.720 Donnie plans to spend a billion dollars to replace cops 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:27.920 on subways with social workers. He says most of that 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.280 money will be used to pay for these social workers 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:35.560 funerals because they're going to be murdered on the subway. 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:40.320 That's why they'll need funerals, because they die. 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.360 Oh yeah, if you have to explain a punchline, it's 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:49.720 it's a rough day at the office, So it's a weird. 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.280 Time for the interaction between men and women. 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.560 You notice this or not. I feel it's not the 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:59.240 same everywhere. I noticed Remember this is a couple of 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.040 years ago. I did the long road trip with my 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.760 kids and we're on the road for like almost two weeks. 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:08.520 But I noticed when I got into the normal part 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.480 of the country. In my mind, I live in California, 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:12.320 not the normal part of the country. When I got 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.639 to the normal part of the country, it seemed like, uh, 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:25.080 palpably noticeable that any interaction with a woman didn't come 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:29.640 off as like weird and confrontational. Once I got away 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.640 from California, like they didn't seem to be scared to death, 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.160 whether it's a person you're checking in with the hotel 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:37.440 or you ask a question to somebody on the street 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.440 or whatever that they feel like they're about to be raped, right, 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:44.560 And it kind of fits in with that hole would 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:47.040 you rather meet a bear in the woods or a 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:49.880 man you didn't know? And whatever percentage of women saying 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:53.480 a bear. This convincing all women that every man is 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:55.720 out to rape them has not been good for society. 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:58.920 I don't know it's social media or what, but it 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:00.800 doesn't exist like in the middle part of the country. 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:04.320 I mean, it was noticeable. I wasn't looking for this, 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.560 like I wasn't doing any experiment. It just became clear 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:09.800 to me that, like, Wow, people aren't like they're just 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:10.320 answering me. 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:11.159 They they don't like. 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:12.960 Take a step back and get wide eyed because you 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.399