Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joke, Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and no He Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3: Senator Fetnman remains hospitalized for observation and so the doctors
Speaker 3: can fine tune his medication after a fall caused by
Speaker 3: what's called a ventricular fibrillation. That's a serious cardiac event,
Speaker 3: which the Mayo Clinic says is the most common cause
Speaker 3: of sudden cardiac death. Essentially, the senator's heart momentarily stopped
Speaker 3: pumping blood to the rest of his body. Fetaman suffered
Speaker 3: a serious stroke in twenty twenty two and afterwards was
Speaker 3: outfitted with a pacemaker defibrillator. His probably saved his life.
Speaker 3: The senator suffered only minor facial injuries in the fall.
Speaker 3: Joking afterwards in a statement quote, if you thought my
Speaker 3: face looked bad before, wait until you see it now.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: The sort of heart attack that usually is that's the
Speaker 4: end all of a sudden your heart stopping anyway, he
Speaker 4: had because he's equipped with something that that's wild. So
Speaker 4: his new book is out and getting a fair amount
Speaker 4: of attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just going to bring that up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's said to be pretty sincere and disarmingly good.
Speaker 4: Well, The New York Times hated it in their book
Speaker 4: review because it didn't explain any of the how you
Speaker 4: reconcile that with Trump's this or that or whatever, and
Speaker 4: I know, absolutely shut up. And it sounded pretty interesting
Speaker 4: to me. It might actually be a political memoir that
Speaker 4: he's writing, you know, very early in his career.
Speaker 2: That'd be worth three.
Speaker 5: Part of it is about his stroke and crushing depression.
Speaker 4: Right, he says he should have quit. Yeah, the depression
Speaker 4: thing is interesting. The day after he won got elected
Speaker 4: to the US Senate, he said he felt nothing and
Speaker 4: contemplated killing himself because he's just like I just I
Speaker 4: don't I don't care, I don't want to do this job.
Speaker 4: I don't care about anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah that wild Yeah, yeah, huh.
Speaker 4: What an interesting dude he is. I'm surprised he's so
Speaker 4: heavy still, just as watching him walk around and his
Speaker 4: shorts in his sweatshirt. He's a giant guy. I would
Speaker 4: have thought with all his health problems that it had
Speaker 4: to been some way to get his weight down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you would think, And I would think with this
Speaker 5: latest scare he would just resign and go live his
Speaker 5: life maybe, although maybe he feels like he has a
Speaker 5: mission and he thinks, well, I don't know how much
Speaker 5: time I have left, so I'm newly motivated.
Speaker 4: Who knows well a lot of the stuff that we
Speaker 4: beat him up for when he was running for senate,
Speaker 4: how it was like one of the gonna be one
Speaker 4: of the worst things in US history to have this
Speaker 4: person who'd never accomplished anything, living off their mom become
Speaker 4: a US senator. Blah blah blah, blah blah. But he
Speaker 4: was running against doctor Oz. He is horrified by that himself.
Speaker 4: That's one of the reasons he needed to become a senator.
Speaker 2: He was just so.
Speaker 4: Disgusted with his life of doing nothing and accomplishing nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and I guess in the book he expresses
Speaker 5: an actual philosophy of government and governing in contrast to
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris's utterly unreadable farce of a book. Just to
Speaker 5: pick one point of comparison, but anyway, I might flip
Speaker 5: through it.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, it makes sense me free copy.
Speaker 4: Hey hantson, I actually saw some tease of some clips
Speaker 4: he did. Katie Kirk, Katie Kurk, who used to be
Speaker 4: a big deal in news as a podcast. He was
Speaker 4: on with her and she was really trying to corner
Speaker 4: him on a couple of things, and it looked pretty
Speaker 4: good the clips I saw on Fox and Friends this morning.
Speaker 2: Maybe we could play those later.
Speaker 5: So on a totally different topic, brought this up at
Speaker 5: the end of last hour and ran out of time.
Speaker 5: But here is this company in Minnesota, Wolf River Electric,
Speaker 5: which is, by the way, a great American success story.
Speaker 5: Four close friends started it in twenty fourteen with their
Speaker 5: hammers in a garage pretty much, and it's grown into
Speaker 5: the state's largest solar contractor. And these guys start noticing
Speaker 5: all sorts of yes, Wolf River, Wolf River, Oh, it's
Speaker 5: quite a name.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a cool name. There's probably a real Wolf River.
Speaker 4: That's what I was wanting. They just crafted in there
Speaker 4: and cast a line and catch wolf, I assume.
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 5: But anyway, so these guys there, they are ah their mascot.
Speaker 5: So they started noticing they were getting a bunch of
Speaker 5: contracts canceled and were utterly mystified by this, some longtime customers,
Speaker 5: and they researched it, tried to figure it out, and
Speaker 5: people kept saying, yeah, you know, you got busted by
Speaker 5: the state and had to pay a legal settlement for
Speaker 5: deceptive sales practices. And the guys were like whaw because
Speaker 5: they'd never been sanctioned by the state and anyway, nobody
Speaker 5: had ever accused them of that. But it was made
Speaker 5: up by Google's Gemini system. In fact, it delivered right
Speaker 5: at the top of the page and mentioned the legal
Speaker 5: settlement populated automatically when they typed Wolfer of electric in
Speaker 5: the search box, and so cancelations were piling up because
Speaker 5: you can't unring a bell, so that these guys are
Speaker 5: desperately trying to get the word out.
Speaker 2: No we weren't, but it was more or less fruitless.
Speaker 5: So the executives decided they had no choice but to
Speaker 5: sue Google for defamation. And it's one of six at
Speaker 5: least six defamation cases filed in the US in the
Speaker 5: last two years over content produced by AI tools that
Speaker 5: generate text and images. And the interesting part of it, well,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of interesting parts of it. But unlike
Speaker 5: other libel or slander suits, these cases seek to define
Speaker 5: content that was not created by human beings as defamatory,
Speaker 5: which is a novel legal question for one thing, there's
Speaker 5: no intent.
Speaker 4: Well right, and from everything I understand about AI, and
Speaker 4: I spend a lot of time reading and listening about AI,
Speaker 4: the people that built these various AI machines, they have
Speaker 4: no idea why their thing hallucinates. They don't want it too,
Speaker 4: They wish they could stop it. They can't, so I mean,
Speaker 4: so it's the opposite of intent. They're spending billions of
Speaker 4: dollars to try to figure out how to make it.
Speaker 4: Not do that, because you know, it's so damaging. If
Speaker 4: you can sue some AI thing for making something up
Speaker 4: and it cost you money.
Speaker 2: That might be the end of AI. I don't see
Speaker 2: how you.
Speaker 4: Can continue to have AI if it can be on
Speaker 4: the hook for hallucinations.
Speaker 5: Well you would if they if their profit exceeds their losses,
Speaker 5: simple as that, they would just have a fun. They
Speaker 5: would have to settle lawsuits all the time, Like there
Speaker 5: are various businesses that get sued a lot.
Speaker 2: And they just it's part of the you know, the
Speaker 2: balance sheet.
Speaker 5: But anyway, Eugene Vollock, the really fascinating UCLA professor is
Speaker 5: a great crusader for freedom of speech, says there's no
Speaker 5: question that these models can publish damaging assertions.
Speaker 4: The question is who is responsible for that? Well, first,
Speaker 4: there's how nobody. Nobody's responsible for it.
Speaker 2: You built a machine that chopped off my hand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's not supposed to. I don't know why
Speaker 4: it does. I wanted to stop. I've got all the
Speaker 4: smartest people in the world working on making a machine
Speaker 4: that doesn't chop off people's hands. And I can't send your.
Speaker 2: Machine chop off mister Getty's hand. Yes or no.
Speaker 5: I would shout at you and court and that Jerry
Speaker 5: wouldn't even have to retire. They would render a verdict
Speaker 5: in my favor to your knees. But now you're working
Speaker 5: my side of the street.
Speaker 4: That then AI can't exist unless there are costs don't
Speaker 4: overrun their profits. So it goes around chopping off people's hands.
Speaker 4: But it's still profitable.
Speaker 2: So what are you gonna do? Yes? No, yes, all right.
Speaker 5: There was this TAK show host who's a second big
Speaker 5: Second Amendment guy. He filed the first of the defamation
Speaker 5: cases in Georgia in twenty twenty three. Some journalist I
Speaker 5: was asking about this guy that she wanted to interview
Speaker 5: him and all, and the chat GPT blurted out that, Yeah,
Speaker 5: the other thing you probably ought to know about him
Speaker 5: is he's been accused of embezzlement, and he liked the poor,
Speaker 5: you know, Woolf River guys like I've never been accused
Speaker 5: of embezzlement. That case was dismissed because they noted the
Speaker 5: journalist didn't trust the claim. It quickly was verified not
Speaker 5: to be true. But that sort of law is absolutely evolving.
Speaker 5: Robbie Starbuck filed in April against Meta, the right wing
Speaker 5: influencer known for his campaign against DEEI has.
Speaker 2: Been incredibly affected. He's a hero for that.
Speaker 5: He was scrolling around on x he found nimmage containing
Speaker 5: false information about him that had been generated by Lama,
Speaker 5: one of Metta's AI chatbots. Has Lama come and gone?
Speaker 5: Is it returned to the andes? I've never heard of Lama.
Speaker 2: I don't know I have.
Speaker 4: I just downloaded Gemini yesterday, so now I have Grock, Gemini,
Speaker 4: Claude and chat GPT.
Speaker 2: That I will compare for everything I ever ask.
Speaker 5: So anyway, the ex posts that mister Starr was in
Speaker 5: the US Capitol during the January sixth riots and had
Speaker 5: ties to QAnon and mister Starbucks says, I was in
Speaker 5: Tennessee at home, and I have nothing to do with QAnon.
Speaker 5: That has settled in August without ever formally responding to
Speaker 5: the complaint.
Speaker 4: My concern about hallucinations because I caught I think it
Speaker 4: was chat GPT, I don't remember which one. One of
Speaker 4: them absolutely made up something and I was talking about
Speaker 4: I was asking it questions about Ulysses, which I'm still reading,
Speaker 4: and uh, just because I'm reading the book, I knew
Speaker 4: it was wrong. I mean, it completely made something up
Speaker 4: that was just made up. But because I knew the
Speaker 4: subject matter, I knew that. How all the other things
Speaker 4: I've asked these various chatbots about that I don't know
Speaker 4: much about. How many how many times have I been
Speaker 4: completely misled and maybe repeated things on the air that
Speaker 4: are just completely made up?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's an unknown unknown. Yeah.
Speaker 4: How often do I get R for you by this
Speaker 4: sort of stuff? So you know, you check is tylern
Speaker 4: all okay to take with chocolate pudding or whatever, and
Speaker 4: it tells you, you know, no, five times out of ten,
Speaker 4: it gives you a heart attack.
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Speaker 4: So your take is that you've got so you're making
Speaker 4: them a beverage. You're making a cola, and your cola
Speaker 4: poisons one out of a million people, and you know it,
Speaker 4: but it's still profitable, so.
Speaker 2: You just continue. That's what's gonna happen with these AI bots.
Speaker 4: More or less.
Speaker 2: That's an imperfect.
Speaker 5: Metaphor, partly because that's that's like physical damage to people
Speaker 5: in the laws are pretty plain on that. And also
Speaker 5: people wouldn't drink your soda if we'd got out. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's not a completely off metaphor. But here's this professor
Speaker 5: at Syracuse who specializes in media loss that she expected few,
Speaker 5: if any of these cases would make it a trial.
Speaker 5: A verdict finding that a company is liable for its
Speaker 5: output of its AI models could lead to a huge
Speaker 5: flood of litigation from others who discover false goods about themselves. Well, oh, oh, oh, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm sorry. Her last sentence is the key one. I
Speaker 5: suspect that if there is an AI defamation lawsuit where
Speaker 5: the defendant is vulnerable, it's going to go away. The
Speaker 5: companies will settle that they don't want the risk, so
Speaker 5: they will be settled.
Speaker 4: Okay, So if I can somehow get damaged by one
Speaker 4: of these AI chatbots, I've got to just keep asking
Speaker 4: it questions, right, so it tells me something wrong, maybe
Speaker 4: I even know it, and I use that information and
Speaker 4: it damages me, then I got assume them right, and says.
Speaker 5: Michael, and I would be happy to team up on
Speaker 5: the project and post diffamoratory things about you, and I'll
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Speaker 5: Oh, final final example, here's a popular Irish talk show
Speaker 5: host who's.
Speaker 2: Furniture in the morning.
Speaker 5: He came across content on Microsoft's MSN web partial, an
Speaker 5: article with his photograph on top and the headline prominent
Speaker 5: Irish broadcaster faces trial over alleged sexual misconduct.
Speaker 2: Here what traffic Pat mcgroin.
Speaker 5: Oh my lord, he, like the other people, has never
Speaker 5: been accused of that, much less facing trial.
Speaker 2: So things are getting weird. And again we're weird fast.
Speaker 2: That's right. More on the waist to hear.
Speaker 6: During their White House meeting earlier this week, President Trump
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Speaker 4: It might be a war with Venezuela soon. Finally, Venezuela
Speaker 4: is going to get what they've had coming for some time.
Speaker 4: I don't know what we're going to do there. Give
Speaker 4: me something to watch, though. I want to tell you
Speaker 4: about this new book that I might actually read. I
Speaker 4: read a lot of books. This is called the Zorg,
Speaker 4: a tale of greed and murder that inspired the abolition
Speaker 4: of slavery. Zorg was a slave ship. It's a horrible story,
Speaker 4: just a horrible story in which they've got this slave
Speaker 4: ship that's headed to the New World from Africa. Has
Speaker 4: happened so often, and they get into ferent problems is storm,
Speaker 4: et cetera. The slaves are all dehydrated and dying, and
Speaker 4: he decides to throw them all overboard and drown them
Speaker 4: because the insurance claim would be cheaper than the loss
Speaker 4: on the health of the slaves when they got there.
Speaker 4: Good Lord, horrible, right. The point of this book, well,
Speaker 4: not the point of the book. I shouldn't say that
Speaker 4: that's a scratch, that that's the wrong thing to say.
Speaker 4: The point really is how awful slave the slave trade was,
Speaker 4: which is not a surprise to anybody. But the reason
Speaker 4: the point of this column by John mccorter Black Guy
Speaker 4: writes for The New York Times that we really really
Speaker 4: like is that this is going to be the first
Speaker 4: book about the slave trade that really brings to light
Speaker 4: how many black people in Africa were involved in selling
Speaker 4: other black people into slavery, and the first book that
Speaker 4: really treats it fairly because.
Speaker 2: It happened a ton and that's.
Speaker 4: Glossed over, of course a lot, by the sixteen nineteen
Speaker 4: project and all other different things.
Speaker 2: According to this particular book.
Speaker 4: Now, the people, the captains of the ship the Zorg
Speaker 4: that threw the black slaves over and drowned them just
Speaker 4: for the insurance claim they were white guys. Okay, so
Speaker 4: this is not like to try to make it all
Speaker 4: it's all bad all the way around. The whole thing
Speaker 4: is bad. Plenty of boad Slavery was omnipriss slavery was
Speaker 4: omni prison and it was bad and lots of bad people.
Speaker 4: But according to these historians John Thornton and Linda Haywood,
Speaker 4: who wrote the book, in their study of the slave
Speaker 4: trade in the early sixteen hundreds, about ninety percent of
Speaker 4: the Black African sold as slaves in English and Dutch
Speaker 4: North America during that period had first been captured in
Speaker 4: war by fellow Black Africans.
Speaker 2: Ninety per set right.
Speaker 4: The captives were sold to white traders for golden weapons
Speaker 4: and then fed into the hungry maw of the plantation
Speaker 4: economy here in the New World.
Speaker 2: And we all know that story from that, I'll point on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Marxists would tell you, well, they just did
Speaker 5: that because of settler colonialism. They were desperate or something something. No,
Speaker 5: they took slaves's conquest and or routinely, but they found
Speaker 5: a more profitable use for the slaves selling them.
Speaker 4: So they did that instead. Was that racism. See, that's
Speaker 4: the question. Slavery always come down to racism because in
Speaker 4: for your race, superior race, that sort of stuff, was
Speaker 4: that racism?
Speaker 2: What about Arabs?
Speaker 5: You know, enslaving Europeans and Arabs enslaving Arabs and Europeans
Speaker 5: and slaving other Europeans.
Speaker 2: And I could go round the.
Speaker 5: Entire globe, but I think you'd probably get the message
Speaker 5: about fourteen regions.
Speaker 4: In Yeah, between that and land acknowledgment, like ignoring the
Speaker 4: fact that every square foot of land has belonged to
Speaker 4: lots and lots and lots of different people, and practically
Speaker 4: everybody who took it took it violently.
Speaker 5: Including the such and such tribe you just tearfully recognized,
Speaker 5: you phony half wit?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Can we ever get to a place of honesty about
Speaker 4: all this stuff?
Speaker 2: Hey? I just had a great idea. That's two great
Speaker 2: ideas in two days.
Speaker 5: The first one was the ruin the entire Country Newsome
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Speaker 5: at Armstrong and getty dot com. People are really digging.
Speaker 5: I can't wait to get mine. My second grade idea,
Speaker 5: and it's just flitted out of my head.
Speaker 2: That'd be a shame mixed mayonnaise one thousand island dressing.
Speaker 2: That's it. No, what were we just talking about?
Speaker 1: Oh right, right, Oh, every time you're at a land acknowledgment.
Speaker 5: If you live in the sort of place that does
Speaker 5: that sort of thing, just say in a loud voice,
Speaker 5: who had it before them?
Speaker 4: Oh that's perfect, that's all you have to do. That
Speaker 4: is perfect, one quick sentence. I should I got to
Speaker 4: teach my son that because that comes up in his classroom.
Speaker 1: Who who did they take it from? Yeah, that's that's mighty.
Speaker 1: Who did they take it from?
Speaker 4: Oh, that's fantastic for the win Armstrong and Getty Zo
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Speaker 2: Donnie plans to spend a billion dollars to replace cops
Speaker 2: on subways with social workers. He says most of that
Speaker 2: money will be used to pay for these social workers
Speaker 2: funerals because they're going to be murdered on the subway.
Speaker 2: That's why they'll need funerals, because they die.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, if you have to explain a punchline, it's
Speaker 5: it's a rough day at the office, So it's a weird.
Speaker 2: Time for the interaction between men and women.
Speaker 4: You notice this or not. I feel it's not the
Speaker 4: same everywhere. I noticed Remember this is a couple of
Speaker 4: years ago. I did the long road trip with my
Speaker 4: kids and we're on the road for like almost two weeks.
Speaker 4: But I noticed when I got into the normal part
Speaker 4: of the country. In my mind, I live in California,
Speaker 4: not the normal part of the country. When I got
Speaker 4: to the normal part of the country, it seemed like, uh,
Speaker 4: palpably noticeable that any interaction with a woman didn't come
Speaker 4: off as like weird and confrontational. Once I got away
Speaker 4: from California, like they didn't seem to be scared to death,
Speaker 4: whether it's a person you're checking in with the hotel
Speaker 4: or you ask a question to somebody on the street
Speaker 4: or whatever that they feel like they're about to be raped, right,
Speaker 4: And it kind of fits in with that hole would
Speaker 4: you rather meet a bear in the woods or a
Speaker 4: man you didn't know? And whatever percentage of women saying
Speaker 4: a bear. This convincing all women that every man is
Speaker 4: out to rape them has not been good for society.
Speaker 4: I don't know it's social media or what, but it
Speaker 4: doesn't exist like in the middle part of the country.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was noticeable. I wasn't looking for this,
Speaker 4: like I wasn't doing any experiment. It just became clear
Speaker 4: to me that, like, Wow, people aren't like they're just
Speaker 4: answering me.
Speaker 2: They they don't like.
Speaker 1: Take a step back and get wide eyed because you
Speaker 1: ask the question, right, So you were not conducting an
Speaker 1: experiment like when you hung out in the woods in
Speaker 1: a bear suit for a week and then came back
Speaker 1: as yourself. That was good aware, So I can't decide
Speaker 1: is this a distraction from your topic or does it
Speaker 1: reinforce it in a way you tell me. I had
Speaker 1: not been home to Chicago for a quite a number
Speaker 1: of years, having lived in northern California, and I went
Speaker 1: back and noticed that interactions between people of various races
Speaker 1: and myself were perfectly friendly and relaxed in the way
Speaker 1: that everybody's got their group and their grievance and their
Speaker 1: grievance studies.
Speaker 2: In Unicornia, it didn't exist.
Speaker 5: It's like everybody's really nice, and nobody like interacted with
Speaker 5: black folks who never, for a moment gave off.
Speaker 2: A whiff of what is why do the want out
Speaker 2: of me? No, it's like, hey, how you doing that? Thought? Wow,
Speaker 2: that's right now. I remember.
Speaker 4: I was leading up to the fact that I know
Speaker 4: It has had an effect on me where I'm scared
Speaker 4: to ask women questions and try to avoid it because
Speaker 4: I often get the kind of wide eyed take a
Speaker 4: half step back, like, oh, what's going on here?
Speaker 2: I've had that interaction enough.
Speaker 4: I live in a super woke town, so maybe it's
Speaker 4: worse even than like the rest of California where I live.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that could be having spent a lot of time
Speaker 5: in rural California.
Speaker 2: I remember, Katie, go.
Speaker 7: Ahead, Katie, Well no, I'm I'm I'm just listening to
Speaker 7: I mean, I I don't know continue Okay.
Speaker 2: Well, you know the jiu jitsu, so it's different for you.
Speaker 4: They got lots of examples, but I remember this is
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. I was walking through the
Speaker 4: car College campus a UC Davis, and I was trying
Speaker 4: to find a particular building and I was walking in.
Speaker 4: There was a woman on the sidewalk next to me,
Speaker 4: like college agent.
Speaker 2: I said, Hey, do you know what direction is?
Speaker 4: And she got kind of wide eyed walk this direction
Speaker 4: like that. I had addressed her at all, you know,
Speaker 4: A strange man was asking her a.
Speaker 2: Question the middle of the day. Sidewalk people everywhere, your
Speaker 2: pants weren't down just you know, making sure, Yeah, that
Speaker 2: would that would startle someone. I just I don't know,
Speaker 2: it seemed weird to It's got to be a lefty thing. Anyway.
Speaker 4: I'm at the gym and I never really talked to anybody,
Speaker 4: but I'm working on my waist down now because my
Speaker 4: waist down is pathetic.
Speaker 2: Waist up. I'm okay with skis. I have been my
Speaker 2: whole life. Waist down.
Speaker 4: It's just it's a disaster, okay, like a man riding
Speaker 4: a chicken, and like and like most men, I've been
Speaker 4: doing this, and most of the men in the gym
Speaker 4: are also bulking up their other upper half and not
Speaker 4: their lower half. Whatever reason the way men are like that,
Speaker 4: and all the women in there are the opposite. I
Speaker 4: guess because you care about your legs and as more.
Speaker 4: I don't know that's the thing.
Speaker 2: It's the butt thing. But dairy air. There are many
Speaker 2: nice words you could use, jack right.
Speaker 4: So I'm particularly wanting to work on my buttocks and
Speaker 4: I haven't, and I've been doing a variety of exercises,
Speaker 4: but none of them have made my butt sore. I
Speaker 4: want an exercise that makes my butt muscle sore that
Speaker 4: I get up the next day, and my butt muscles
Speaker 4: are sore, so on one specifically working on them. And
Speaker 4: there there is a woman there is working it works
Speaker 4: out there regularly, and she does lots of leg exercises.
Speaker 2: So I ask.
Speaker 4: I decided I was going to ask her. I said,
Speaker 4: do you have any exercises.
Speaker 2: Anything you could do to make my butt hurt? Oh? Boy, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is taking a turn. You have a nice ass.
Speaker 2: How do you work out? That's not what I said.
Speaker 4: I said, I'm trying to figure out an exercise for
Speaker 4: my lower body that makes my butt muscles sore. Do
Speaker 4: I even like specifically work the butt muscles? And she said,
Speaker 4: and she is very nice, and she gave me an answer,
Speaker 4: but she started with and I've had this happen several
Speaker 4: times where she said, yeah, my husband's trainer. First words
Speaker 4: out of her mouth are my husband. To make it
Speaker 4: clear that I've got a husband, and which is fine,
Speaker 4: But is that the world we now live in?
Speaker 2: Any question about anything ever? We got to draw the lines.
Speaker 2: We got to get in the defensive position.
Speaker 7: That might have been her ego thinking you were heading
Speaker 7: on her. I've used that when a guy like I've
Speaker 7: been at a bar and he starts talking, starting a conversation.
Speaker 2: And I'll be like, oh, yeah, my husband just.
Speaker 5: To be like yeah, bars and correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: Because guys hit on women in Jim's.
Speaker 2: A lot all the time. I can't imagine doing that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so she probably thought you were approaching her and
Speaker 7: asking her that question because you were trying to hit
Speaker 7: on her, and that.
Speaker 2: Was Jim, can I buy you a drink? Yeah, without
Speaker 2: a doubt. See, I don't see the gym that way.
Speaker 4: But mayb That's where I'm getting it wrong, because I
Speaker 4: was about to say, well in a bar, that makes sense,
Speaker 4: and I think it actually benefits both of you. I
Speaker 4: don't see it as like I think it's a benefit
Speaker 4: to both of you. Okay, cool, you're married. I alwish
Speaker 4: I shouldn't waste my time here. I'll turn my attention elsewhere.
Speaker 4: I think it's beneficial to both of you to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, but if a gym is if people feel
Speaker 4: the gym as though because I don't feel I've never
Speaker 4: felt the.
Speaker 2: Gym is like a meet up place. I'm there to
Speaker 2: exercise and get the hell out of there as fast
Speaker 2: as I can.
Speaker 7: A lot of people see the gym as a meet
Speaker 7: up place.
Speaker 2: Really O. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Anyway, she says, well, this is where it takes another
Speaker 4: different interesting thing to me was she said, you, well,
Speaker 4: my husband's trainer suggested this exercise and then she goes
Speaker 4: into great detail to show me how to do it.
Speaker 4: And she said, give me your number and I'll text
Speaker 4: you the information. I said, okay, I wasn't going to
Speaker 4: ask her for a number or give my number. I
Speaker 4: never would have done that in a million years, because
Speaker 4: that's way too far down the road of I said
Speaker 4: sure and uh, and I gave her my number and
Speaker 4: she texted me the information and I said thanks, like
Speaker 4: with a wow.
Speaker 2: I did not see that. It was a little charts
Speaker 2: on Twist with a little chart on how to do
Speaker 2: the exercise, and here's.
Speaker 5: Some tasteful nude pictures of me and right. Also, I
Speaker 5: enjoy long walks at midnight and then on the beach.
Speaker 4: I did do the exercise and for the first time,
Speaker 4: my butt muscles are sore, so I will continue that one.
Speaker 7: Good.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 4: That's the that's the next card, Ashley. That's the right
Speaker 4: exercise for me to increase my butt ducks.
Speaker 5: Can you suggest an exercise that would make my glutes sore,
Speaker 5: as if you spanked me good en arm?
Speaker 2: Is that what she said? Door?
Speaker 4: Sometimes when I'm hanging from my sex chair, my quads
Speaker 4: get loose, and I wonder if I could take them
Speaker 4: up some Now I wonder if there's I'd never thought
Speaker 4: about this till now, because I've been ruminating about this
Speaker 4: because I felt it made me feel really uncomfortable. She
Speaker 4: as soon as she dropped it, well my husband, I thought,
Speaker 4: you think I'm hitting on you. I'm not hitting on you.
Speaker 2: I'm just asking to him question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it made me feel bad and uh, but then
Speaker 4: when she asked for my number and then sent me
Speaker 4: the thing and I said thanks, and then she didn't
Speaker 4: reply at all, So she wasn't hitting on me by
Speaker 4: asking for a number.
Speaker 2: I thought, this is a completely non.
Speaker 4: Hitting on each other normal used to happen interaction between
Speaker 4: two grown ups, like.
Speaker 2: I wasn't hittingen on you. You weren't hitting on me.
Speaker 4: I asked you a question, you answered it like two
Speaker 4: grown ups that aren't trying to do anything else other
Speaker 4: interact in the world.
Speaker 7: The interaction post the her, you know, my husband's trainer,
Speaker 7: and then probably interacting with you.
Speaker 2: She probably went, okay, this is just a regular.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking safe enough quickly talking to me, she realized
Speaker 4: I'm not like, yeah, I don't looking to hook up.
Speaker 2: Vibe.
Speaker 4: Just sad old man with earth. Just a sad old
Speaker 4: man with a flabby ass, that's what I'm talking to.
Speaker 4: Anything I can do to help him out?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it was a very shorthand ways saying I'm
Speaker 5: faithfully married. Do you still want to know about the exercise?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh you think that's what it was. That's interesting.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, So if I had been hitting on her as
Speaker 4: soon as she mentioned her husband, I'd have been like,
Speaker 4: never mind and walked away, or.
Speaker 7: Just acted not interested, or you said something.
Speaker 5: Else, something that glazed look in your eyes that you
Speaker 5: weren't actually looking, and she would know.
Speaker 7: But I mean, if you were acting genuinely interested in
Speaker 7: the exercise and that was a legit question, then that
Speaker 7: that anxiety goes away.
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's tough to interact in the modern world. Well,
Speaker 4: in certain places. In other places it's not. It's the
Speaker 4: same as it's always been.
Speaker 2: So coming up.
Speaker 5: A conservative takes a shot at the Republicans, and he's
Speaker 5: absolutely right, and a left he takes a shot at
Speaker 5: the Democrats, and he's absolutely right.
Speaker 2: I thought they were both pretty good takes. All right,
Speaker 2: I'm going to tease this again at risk of being
Speaker 2: having things thrown at me. No, don't even say it.
Speaker 2: They'd come across an Epstein email I thought was pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: I just I'm with her say it again.
Speaker 4: Sister husband said he doesn't want to hear about the
Speaker 4: Epstein email, so never mind, I don't care about. Okay,
Speaker 4: we got all that coming up. Stay here, excellent text.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to reset what we just talked about.
Speaker 4: It uh talked about if you get the podcast Armstrong
Speaker 4: and getting on demand for the whole story about women
Speaker 4: being comfortable interactions.
Speaker 2: We got this text.
Speaker 4: So in the kind of area I live in, it's
Speaker 4: okay for women to be afraid of men in all
Speaker 4: situations unless that guy is in your dressing room with
Speaker 4: you naked. Then if you're a little uncomfortable with him,
Speaker 4: there's something wrong with you.
Speaker 2: How about that? So, in a public space, normal.
Speaker 4: Interaction, you should be kind of uncomfortable that a man
Speaker 4: has talked to you in the locker room. Guy there
Speaker 4: with a swing in dingis if you're uncomfortable, there's something
Speaker 4: wrong with you.
Speaker 2: You're a bit of a transphobe, right, you're a pigot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is a great, great analysis of the hypocrisy
Speaker 5: of the whole intersectional madness thing. Please, it's just loving
Speaker 5: being a victim, loving grievance. Grievance is the gasoline of
Speaker 5: the left. What's that on both ends of that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, one hundred percent. So a couple
Speaker 5: of things. I hope we can squeeze this then If not,
Speaker 5: we'll continue on next hour. If you don't get Next Hour,
Speaker 5: grab it via podcast Armstrong and getting on demand. You
Speaker 5: probably ought to follow us or subscribe. Rich Lowry of
Speaker 5: the National Review, great writer, a great guy, taking a
Speaker 5: shot at the Republicans after a quick shot at the
Speaker 5: Democrats talking about the big shutdown fight, but extending those
Speaker 5: Obamacare subsidies and that those ought to be you know,
Speaker 5: continued in perpetuity the party's position in effect, he writes,
Speaker 5: this is a great description. What the Democrats were trying
Speaker 5: to do was we passed a sweeping healthcare reform that
Speaker 5: we promised with lower costs, and now it's done the opposite.
Speaker 5: So it is incumbent on Republicans than the name of
Speaker 5: all that is good and right to support additional subsidies
Speaker 5: for the law forever.
Speaker 4: That's a pretty good and the any point, I wish
Speaker 4: there was anybody that could have gone on one of
Speaker 4: those talk shows and made that point.
Speaker 1: No kidding, just one of them, not to mention that
Speaker 1: they should have messaging that all of them, though, How
Speaker 1: didn't somebody say to Christian Walker, wait a second, on
Speaker 1: Meet the Press, wait a second, So you're telling me
Speaker 1: the Affordable Care Act you need subsidies for people to
Speaker 1: afford it.
Speaker 2: Well, then apparently it wasn't very affordable. Yeah, yeah, unbelievable.
Speaker 5: And like that old politico said many years ago, there
Speaker 5: are two parties in Washington, the Evil Party and the
Speaker 5: Stupid Party. Anyway, But then Rich points out the GOP
Speaker 5: is so hopeless on healthcare it will have trouble countering
Speaker 5: the argument. Fifteen years after the passage of Obamacare, and
Speaker 5: after a major attempt to repeal it early in Trump's
Speaker 5: first term, they still lack a concrete alternative the Republican Party.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, and that's bothered me from the beginning.
Speaker 4: But you realize we were just one.
Speaker 2: But hurt.
Speaker 4: John McCain thumbs down from changing all that he was
Speaker 4: so angry at Trump for Trump saying, you know, in
Speaker 4: my opinion, heroes don't get captured, which was an awful
Speaker 4: thing to say. John McCain was so mad about that
Speaker 4: he voted thumbs down when they actually had the momentum
Speaker 4: to do something about Obamacare.
Speaker 2: Wow, damn it. Wow.
Speaker 5: As Avic Roy of the Foundation for Research on Equal
Speaker 5: Opportunity points out, Barry Obama ran for president promising Obamacare
Speaker 5: would reduce premiums by as much as twenty five hundred
Speaker 5: bucks per family. That was every bit as dishonest as
Speaker 5: if you like your plan, you can keep your plan,
Speaker 5: and indeed the costs have skyrocketed anyway. Rich has some suggestions,
Speaker 5: but yeah, the the Republican Party has to develop an alternative.
Speaker 5: They have to come up with a coherent message for
Speaker 5: what's wrong with Obamacare and then what to do about it.
Speaker 2: Otherwise you don't deserve to govern.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the way, but politically it would have to
Speaker 4: include covering the same number of people, and I just
Speaker 4: don't know that that's workable.
Speaker 5: Well, all right, we're doomed as a country then, And
Speaker 5: you're right, by the way, You're almost certainly right. And
Speaker 5: then I thought this was interesting, undeniably a man of
Speaker 5: the left, the kind of center normal left. For Reid Zacharia,
Speaker 5: why Democrats keep flailing. Voters aren't rejecting government, They're rejecting
Speaker 5: leaders who can't run it effectively. And then he writes,
Speaker 5: it's hard to see how the government shut down and
Speaker 5: reopenings anything other than a defeat for the Democrats, A
Speaker 5: high stakes confrontation that ended with their own goals unmet
Speaker 5: and their message muddled. Blah blah blah. Shutdown reinforces the
Speaker 5: image of the Democrats is feckless. They promise wonderful sounding
Speaker 5: new programs free childcare, for example, but in fact preside
Speaker 5: over bloated bureaucracies and inept execution. If America has an
Speaker 5: affordability crisis tends to be in the place Democrats governed,
Speaker 5: like New York, Illinois, California, which all feature high taxes,
Speaker 5: soaring housing costs, and stagnant outcomes in basic areas like
Speaker 5: education and infrastrut How good for you for.
Speaker 4: Reied Zagaria for writing that it's so obos is true.
Speaker 4: The fact that that doesn't get commented on more often.
Speaker 4: The places where this sort of thing is being tried
Speaker 4: is where it's least affordable to live.
Speaker 2: Doesn't anybody notice that? Well?
Speaker 5: And I could almost forgive that if the education was
Speaker 5: excellent for the poor little kids, for instance, if the
Speaker 5: streets were safe, if you know, if people could rise up.
Speaker 2: Roads well paved.
Speaker 4: Mentally, ill are all in hospitals because the atomic opportunity
Speaker 4: for go getters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all of it.
Speaker 5: And he goes into a fair amount of detail about
Speaker 5: how miserable New York has become fiscally and education and
Speaker 5: a bunch of other things under Mike after Mike Bloomberg
Speaker 5: left office and de Blaggio took over, and how it's
Speaker 5: going to be worse under Mumdani and the frightening amounts
Speaker 5: of money New York State spends. It's spending has risen
Speaker 5: from roughly seventy billion dollars in two thousand to two
Speaker 5: hundred and thirty billion dollars today, out twice Florida's expenditure,
Speaker 5: even though Florida has several million more residents. And he
Speaker 5: points out Illinois ranks among the top in public education spending, yet.
Speaker 2: Is middling in fourth grade reading and mass scores at best. Wow,
Speaker 2: that should be the only answer democrats have is spend more. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we need more money.
Speaker 4: The reason it's been Republican cuts to education is why
Speaker 4: we're failing, even though you're spending more money than it's
Speaker 4: ever been spent.
Speaker 2: That's mad.
Speaker 5: I know it's practically a political cliche, but the evil
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