1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joke, Getty. 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and no He Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 3: Senator Fetnman remains hospitalized for observation and so the doctors 5 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: can fine tune his medication after a fall caused by 6 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 3: what's called a ventricular fibrillation. That's a serious cardiac event, 7 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: which the Mayo Clinic says is the most common cause 8 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: of sudden cardiac death. Essentially, the senator's heart momentarily stopped 9 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 3: pumping blood to the rest of his body. Fetaman suffered 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: a serious stroke in twenty twenty two and afterwards was 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: outfitted with a pacemaker defibrillator. His probably saved his life. 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: The senator suffered only minor facial injuries in the fall. 13 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: Joking afterwards in a statement quote, if you thought my 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: face looked bad before, wait until you see it now. 15 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: Wow. 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 4: The sort of heart attack that usually is that's the 17 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 4: end all of a sudden your heart stopping anyway, he 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: had because he's equipped with something that that's wild. So 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 4: his new book is out and getting a fair amount 20 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 4: of attention. 21 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just going to bring that up. 22 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's said to be pretty sincere and disarmingly good. 23 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 4: Well, The New York Times hated it in their book 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 4: review because it didn't explain any of the how you 25 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 4: reconcile that with Trump's this or that or whatever, and 26 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: I know, absolutely shut up. And it sounded pretty interesting 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 4: to me. It might actually be a political memoir that 28 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,639 Speaker 4: he's writing, you know, very early in his career. 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 2: That'd be worth three. 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 5: Part of it is about his stroke and crushing depression. 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 4: Right, he says he should have quit. Yeah, the depression 32 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 4: thing is interesting. The day after he won got elected 33 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 4: to the US Senate, he said he felt nothing and 34 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 4: contemplated killing himself because he's just like I just I 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: don't I don't care, I don't want to do this job. 36 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: I don't care about anything. 37 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah that wild Yeah, yeah, huh. 38 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 4: What an interesting dude he is. I'm surprised he's so 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: heavy still, just as watching him walk around and his 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 4: shorts in his sweatshirt. He's a giant guy. I would 41 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 4: have thought with all his health problems that it had 42 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 4: to been some way to get his weight down. 43 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, you would think, And I would think with this 44 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 5: latest scare he would just resign and go live his 45 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 5: life maybe, although maybe he feels like he has a 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 5: mission and he thinks, well, I don't know how much 47 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 5: time I have left, so I'm newly motivated. 48 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: Who knows well a lot of the stuff that we 49 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: beat him up for when he was running for senate, 50 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 4: how it was like one of the gonna be one 51 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 4: of the worst things in US history to have this 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 4: person who'd never accomplished anything, living off their mom become 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: a US senator. Blah blah blah, blah blah. But he 54 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 4: was running against doctor Oz. He is horrified by that himself. 55 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 4: That's one of the reasons he needed to become a senator. 56 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: He was just so. 57 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 4: Disgusted with his life of doing nothing and accomplishing nothing. 58 00:02:59,120 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 59 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and I guess in the book he expresses 60 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 5: an actual philosophy of government and governing in contrast to 61 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 5: Kamala Harris's utterly unreadable farce of a book. Just to 62 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 5: pick one point of comparison, but anyway, I might flip 63 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 5: through it. 64 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, it makes sense me free copy. 65 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 4: Hey hantson, I actually saw some tease of some clips 66 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 4: he did. Katie Kirk, Katie Kurk, who used to be 67 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 4: a big deal in news as a podcast. He was 68 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: on with her and she was really trying to corner 69 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: him on a couple of things, and it looked pretty 70 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: good the clips I saw on Fox and Friends this morning. 71 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: Maybe we could play those later. 72 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 5: So on a totally different topic, brought this up at 73 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 5: the end of last hour and ran out of time. 74 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 5: But here is this company in Minnesota, Wolf River Electric, 75 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 5: which is, by the way, a great American success story. 76 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 5: Four close friends started it in twenty fourteen with their 77 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 5: hammers in a garage pretty much, and it's grown into 78 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 5: the state's largest solar contractor. And these guys start noticing 79 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 5: all sorts of yes, Wolf River, Wolf River, Oh, it's 80 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 5: quite a name. 81 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a cool name. There's probably a real Wolf River. 82 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: That's what I was wanting. They just crafted in there 83 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 4: and cast a line and catch wolf, I assume. 84 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: So yeah. 85 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 5: But anyway, so these guys there, they are ah their mascot. 86 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 5: So they started noticing they were getting a bunch of 87 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 5: contracts canceled and were utterly mystified by this, some longtime customers, 88 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 5: and they researched it, tried to figure it out, and 89 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 5: people kept saying, yeah, you know, you got busted by 90 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 5: the state and had to pay a legal settlement for 91 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 5: deceptive sales practices. And the guys were like whaw because 92 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 5: they'd never been sanctioned by the state and anyway, nobody 93 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 5: had ever accused them of that. But it was made 94 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 5: up by Google's Gemini system. In fact, it delivered right 95 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 5: at the top of the page and mentioned the legal 96 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 5: settlement populated automatically when they typed Wolfer of electric in 97 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 5: the search box, and so cancelations were piling up because 98 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 5: you can't unring a bell, so that these guys are 99 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 5: desperately trying to get the word out. 100 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: No we weren't, but it was more or less fruitless. 101 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 5: So the executives decided they had no choice but to 102 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 5: sue Google for defamation. And it's one of six at 103 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 5: least six defamation cases filed in the US in the 104 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 5: last two years over content produced by AI tools that 105 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 5: generate text and images. And the interesting part of it, well, 106 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 5: there's a lot of interesting parts of it. But unlike 107 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 5: other libel or slander suits, these cases seek to define 108 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 5: content that was not created by human beings as defamatory, 109 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 5: which is a novel legal question for one thing, there's 110 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 5: no intent. 111 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 4: Well right, and from everything I understand about AI, and 112 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: I spend a lot of time reading and listening about AI, 113 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: the people that built these various AI machines, they have 114 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 4: no idea why their thing hallucinates. They don't want it too, 115 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: They wish they could stop it. They can't, so I mean, 116 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: so it's the opposite of intent. They're spending billions of 117 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 4: dollars to try to figure out how to make it. 118 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 4: Not do that, because you know, it's so damaging. If 119 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: you can sue some AI thing for making something up 120 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: and it cost you money. 121 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: That might be the end of AI. I don't see 122 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: how you. 123 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: Can continue to have AI if it can be on 124 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 4: the hook for hallucinations. 125 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 5: Well you would if they if their profit exceeds their losses, 126 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 5: simple as that, they would just have a fun. They 127 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 5: would have to settle lawsuits all the time, Like there 128 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 5: are various businesses that get sued a lot. 129 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: And they just it's part of the you know, the 130 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 2: balance sheet. 131 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 5: But anyway, Eugene Vollock, the really fascinating UCLA professor is 132 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 5: a great crusader for freedom of speech, says there's no 133 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 5: question that these models can publish damaging assertions. 134 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: The question is who is responsible for that? Well, first, 135 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 4: there's how nobody. Nobody's responsible for it. 136 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 2: You built a machine that chopped off my hand. 137 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's not supposed to. I don't know why 138 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 4: it does. I wanted to stop. I've got all the 139 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: smartest people in the world working on making a machine 140 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 4: that doesn't chop off people's hands. And I can't send your. 141 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: Machine chop off mister Getty's hand. Yes or no. 142 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 5: I would shout at you and court and that Jerry 143 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 5: wouldn't even have to retire. They would render a verdict 144 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 5: in my favor to your knees. But now you're working 145 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 5: my side of the street. 146 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 4: That then AI can't exist unless there are costs don't 147 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: overrun their profits. So it goes around chopping off people's hands. 148 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 4: But it's still profitable. 149 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: So what are you gonna do? Yes? No, yes, all right. 150 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 5: There was this TAK show host who's a second big 151 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 5: Second Amendment guy. He filed the first of the defamation 152 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 5: cases in Georgia in twenty twenty three. Some journalist I 153 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 5: was asking about this guy that she wanted to interview 154 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 5: him and all, and the chat GPT blurted out that, Yeah, 155 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 5: the other thing you probably ought to know about him 156 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 5: is he's been accused of embezzlement, and he liked the poor, 157 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 5: you know, Woolf River guys like I've never been accused 158 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 5: of embezzlement. That case was dismissed because they noted the 159 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 5: journalist didn't trust the claim. It quickly was verified not 160 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 5: to be true. But that sort of law is absolutely evolving. 161 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 5: Robbie Starbuck filed in April against Meta, the right wing 162 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 5: influencer known for his campaign against DEEI has. 163 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: Been incredibly affected. He's a hero for that. 164 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 5: He was scrolling around on x he found nimmage containing 165 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,479 Speaker 5: false information about him that had been generated by Lama, 166 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 5: one of Metta's AI chatbots. Has Lama come and gone? 167 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 5: Is it returned to the andes? I've never heard of Lama. 168 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: I don't know I have. 169 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: I just downloaded Gemini yesterday, so now I have Grock, Gemini, 170 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: Claude and chat GPT. 171 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: That I will compare for everything I ever ask. 172 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 5: So anyway, the ex posts that mister Starr was in 173 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 5: the US Capitol during the January sixth riots and had 174 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 5: ties to QAnon and mister Starbucks says, I was in 175 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 5: Tennessee at home, and I have nothing to do with QAnon. 176 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 5: That has settled in August without ever formally responding to 177 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 5: the complaint. 178 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: My concern about hallucinations because I caught I think it 179 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 4: was chat GPT, I don't remember which one. 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That's what's gonna happen with these AI bots. 231 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 4: More or less. 232 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: That's an imperfect. 233 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 5: Metaphor, partly because that's that's like physical damage to people 234 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 5: in the laws are pretty plain on that. And also 235 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 5: people wouldn't drink your soda if we'd got out. I mean, 236 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 5: it's not a completely off metaphor. But here's this professor 237 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 5: at Syracuse who specializes in media loss that she expected few, 238 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 5: if any of these cases would make it a trial. 239 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 5: A verdict finding that a company is liable for its 240 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 5: output of its AI models could lead to a huge 241 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 5: flood of litigation from others who discover false goods about themselves. Well, oh, oh, oh, oh, 242 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 5: I'm sorry. Her last sentence is the key one. I 243 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 5: suspect that if there is an AI defamation lawsuit where 244 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 5: the defendant is vulnerable, it's going to go away. The 245 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 5: companies will settle that they don't want the risk, so 246 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 5: they will be settled. 247 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: Okay, So if I can somehow get damaged by one 248 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 4: of these AI chatbots, I've got to just keep asking 249 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 4: it questions, right, so it tells me something wrong, maybe 250 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: I even know it, and I use that information and 251 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 4: it damages me, then I got assume them right, and says. 252 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 5: Michael, and I would be happy to team up on 253 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 5: the project and post diffamoratory things about you, and I'll 254 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 5: go full. 255 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 4: I'll go full loss of consertion because that information was wrong. 256 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 4: I can no longer get an erection and enjoy a 257 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 4: sexual activity I need five million dollars. 258 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: Must be very disappointing for you. 259 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 5: Oh, final final example, here's a popular Irish talk show 260 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 5: host who's. 261 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: Furniture in the morning. 262 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 5: He came across content on Microsoft's MSN web partial, an 263 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 5: article with his photograph on top and the headline prominent 264 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 5: Irish broadcaster faces trial over alleged sexual misconduct. 265 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 2: Here what traffic Pat mcgroin. 266 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 5: Oh my lord, he, like the other people, has never 267 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 5: been accused of that, much less facing trial. 268 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: So things are getting weird. And again we're weird fast. 269 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 2: That's right. More on the waist to hear. 270 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 6: During their White House meeting earlier this week, President Trump 271 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 6: and partedly sprayed Syrian President Ahmed al Sharah with his 272 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 6: victory forty seven fragrance and long story short, we're at 273 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 6: war with Syria. 274 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 4: It might be a war with Venezuela soon. Finally, Venezuela 275 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 4: is going to get what they've had coming for some time. 276 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 4: I don't know what we're going to do there. Give 277 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 4: me something to watch, though. I want to tell you 278 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 4: about this new book that I might actually read. I 279 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 4: read a lot of books. This is called the Zorg, 280 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 4: a tale of greed and murder that inspired the abolition 281 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 4: of slavery. Zorg was a slave ship. It's a horrible story, 282 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 4: just a horrible story in which they've got this slave 283 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 4: ship that's headed to the New World from Africa. Has 284 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 4: happened so often, and they get into ferent problems is storm, 285 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: et cetera. The slaves are all dehydrated and dying, and 286 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 4: he decides to throw them all overboard and drown them 287 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 4: because the insurance claim would be cheaper than the loss 288 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 4: on the health of the slaves when they got there. 289 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 4: Good Lord, horrible, right. The point of this book, well, 290 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 4: not the point of the book. I shouldn't say that 291 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 4: that's a scratch, that that's the wrong thing to say. 292 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 4: The point really is how awful slave the slave trade was, 293 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 4: which is not a surprise to anybody. But the reason 294 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 4: the point of this column by John mccorter Black Guy 295 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 4: writes for The New York Times that we really really 296 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 4: like is that this is going to be the first 297 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 4: book about the slave trade that really brings to light 298 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: how many black people in Africa were involved in selling 299 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 4: other black people into slavery, and the first book that 300 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: really treats it fairly because. 301 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: It happened a ton and that's. 302 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: Glossed over, of course a lot, by the sixteen nineteen 303 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 4: project and all other different things. 304 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: According to this particular book. 305 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 4: Now, the people, the captains of the ship the Zorg 306 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 4: that threw the black slaves over and drowned them just 307 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 4: for the insurance claim they were white guys. Okay, so 308 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: this is not like to try to make it all 309 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 4: it's all bad all the way around. The whole thing 310 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 4: is bad. Plenty of boad Slavery was omnipriss slavery was 311 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: omni prison and it was bad and lots of bad people. 312 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 4: But according to these historians John Thornton and Linda Haywood, 313 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 4: who wrote the book, in their study of the slave 314 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 4: trade in the early sixteen hundreds, about ninety percent of 315 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 4: the Black African sold as slaves in English and Dutch 316 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 4: North America during that period had first been captured in 317 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 4: war by fellow Black Africans. 318 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: Ninety per set right. 319 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 4: The captives were sold to white traders for golden weapons 320 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 4: and then fed into the hungry maw of the plantation 321 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: economy here in the New World. 322 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: And we all know that story from that, I'll point on. 323 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Marxists would tell you, well, they just did 324 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 5: that because of settler colonialism. They were desperate or something something. No, 325 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 5: they took slaves's conquest and or routinely, but they found 326 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 5: a more profitable use for the slaves selling them. 327 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 4: So they did that instead. Was that racism. See, that's 328 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 4: the question. Slavery always come down to racism because in 329 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 4: for your race, superior race, that sort of stuff, was 330 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 4: that racism? 331 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: What about Arabs? 332 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 5: You know, enslaving Europeans and Arabs enslaving Arabs and Europeans 333 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 5: and slaving other Europeans. 334 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: And I could go round the. 335 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 5: Entire globe, but I think you'd probably get the message 336 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 5: about fourteen regions. 337 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 4: In Yeah, between that and land acknowledgment, like ignoring the 338 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 4: fact that every square foot of land has belonged to 339 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 4: lots and lots and lots of different people, and practically 340 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 4: everybody who took it took it violently. 341 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 5: Including the such and such tribe you just tearfully recognized, 342 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 5: you phony half wit? 343 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: Right? 344 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 4: Can we ever get to a place of honesty about 345 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 4: all this stuff? 346 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: Hey? I just had a great idea. That's two great 347 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: ideas in two days. 348 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 5: The first one was the ruin the entire Country Newsome 349 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 5: twenty twenty eight t shirt, which is now for sale 350 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 5: at Armstrong and getty dot com. People are really digging. 351 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 5: I can't wait to get mine. My second grade idea, 352 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 5: and it's just flitted out of my head. 353 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: That'd be a shame mixed mayonnaise one thousand island dressing. 354 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 2: That's it. No, what were we just talking about? 355 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: Oh right, right, Oh, every time you're at a land acknowledgment. 356 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 5: If you live in the sort of place that does 357 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 5: that sort of thing, just say in a loud voice, 358 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 5: who had it before them? 359 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 4: Oh that's perfect, that's all you have to do. That 360 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: is perfect, one quick sentence. I should I got to 361 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 4: teach my son that because that comes up in his classroom. 362 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: Who who did they take it from? Yeah, that's that's mighty. 363 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: Who did they take it from? 364 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 4: Oh, that's fantastic for the win Armstrong and Getty Zo 365 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 4: ran mom. 366 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: Donnie plans to spend a billion dollars to replace cops 367 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: on subways with social workers. He says most of that 368 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: money will be used to pay for these social workers 369 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: funerals because they're going to be murdered on the subway. 370 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: That's why they'll need funerals, because they die. 371 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, if you have to explain a punchline, it's 372 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 5: it's a rough day at the office, So it's a weird. 373 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: Time for the interaction between men and women. 374 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 4: You notice this or not. I feel it's not the 375 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 4: same everywhere. I noticed Remember this is a couple of 376 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 4: years ago. I did the long road trip with my 377 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 4: kids and we're on the road for like almost two weeks. 378 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: But I noticed when I got into the normal part 379 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 4: of the country. In my mind, I live in California, 380 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: not the normal part of the country. When I got 381 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 4: to the normal part of the country, it seemed like, uh, 382 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 4: palpably noticeable that any interaction with a woman didn't come 383 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 4: off as like weird and confrontational. Once I got away 384 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 4: from California, like they didn't seem to be scared to death, 385 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 4: whether it's a person you're checking in with the hotel 386 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 4: or you ask a question to somebody on the street 387 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 4: or whatever that they feel like they're about to be raped, right, 388 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 4: And it kind of fits in with that hole would 389 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 4: you rather meet a bear in the woods or a 390 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 4: man you didn't know? And whatever percentage of women saying 391 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 4: a bear. This convincing all women that every man is 392 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 4: out to rape them has not been good for society. 393 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 4: I don't know it's social media or what, but it 394 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: doesn't exist like in the middle part of the country. 395 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 4: I mean, it was noticeable. I wasn't looking for this, 396 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 4: like I wasn't doing any experiment. It just became clear 397 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: to me that, like, Wow, people aren't like they're just 398 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 4: answering me. 399 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: They they don't like. 400 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: Take a step back and get wide eyed because you 401 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: ask the question, right, So you were not conducting an 402 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: experiment like when you hung out in the woods in 403 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: a bear suit for a week and then came back 404 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: as yourself. That was good aware, So I can't decide 405 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: is this a distraction from your topic or does it 406 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: reinforce it in a way you tell me. I had 407 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: not been home to Chicago for a quite a number 408 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: of years, having lived in northern California, and I went 409 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: back and noticed that interactions between people of various races 410 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: and myself were perfectly friendly and relaxed in the way 411 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: that everybody's got their group and their grievance and their 412 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: grievance studies. 413 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 2: In Unicornia, it didn't exist. 414 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 5: It's like everybody's really nice, and nobody like interacted with 415 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 5: black folks who never, for a moment gave off. 416 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: A whiff of what is why do the want out 417 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: of me? No, it's like, hey, how you doing that? Thought? Wow, 418 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: that's right now. I remember. 419 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 4: I was leading up to the fact that I know 420 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 4: It has had an effect on me where I'm scared 421 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 4: to ask women questions and try to avoid it because 422 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 4: I often get the kind of wide eyed take a 423 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 4: half step back, like, oh, what's going on here? 424 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: I've had that interaction enough. 425 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 4: I live in a super woke town, so maybe it's 426 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 4: worse even than like the rest of California where I live. 427 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, that could be having spent a lot of time 428 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 5: in rural California. 429 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: I remember, Katie, go. 430 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 7: Ahead, Katie, Well no, I'm I'm I'm just listening to 431 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 7: I mean, I I don't know continue Okay. 432 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: Well, you know the jiu jitsu, so it's different for you. 433 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 4: They got lots of examples, but I remember this is 434 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. I was walking through the 435 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 4: car College campus a UC Davis, and I was trying 436 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 4: to find a particular building and I was walking in. 437 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: There was a woman on the sidewalk next to me, 438 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 4: like college agent. 439 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: I said, Hey, do you know what direction is? 440 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 4: And she got kind of wide eyed walk this direction 441 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 4: like that. I had addressed her at all, you know, 442 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 4: A strange man was asking her a. 443 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: Question the middle of the day. Sidewalk people everywhere, your 444 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: pants weren't down just you know, making sure, Yeah, that 445 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 2: would that would startle someone. I just I don't know, 446 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 2: it seemed weird to It's got to be a lefty thing. Anyway. 447 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 4: I'm at the gym and I never really talked to anybody, 448 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 4: but I'm working on my waist down now because my 449 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 4: waist down is pathetic. 450 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: Waist up. I'm okay with skis. I have been my 451 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 2: whole life. Waist down. 452 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 4: It's just it's a disaster, okay, like a man riding 453 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 4: a chicken, and like and like most men, I've been 454 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 4: doing this, and most of the men in the gym 455 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 4: are also bulking up their other upper half and not 456 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 4: their lower half. Whatever reason the way men are like that, 457 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 4: and all the women in there are the opposite. I 458 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 4: guess because you care about your legs and as more. 459 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 4: I don't know that's the thing. 460 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: It's the butt thing. But dairy air. There are many 461 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: nice words you could use, jack right. 462 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 4: So I'm particularly wanting to work on my buttocks and 463 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 4: I haven't, and I've been doing a variety of exercises, 464 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 4: but none of them have made my butt sore. I 465 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 4: want an exercise that makes my butt muscle sore that 466 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 4: I get up the next day, and my butt muscles 467 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 4: are sore, so on one specifically working on them. And 468 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 4: there there is a woman there is working it works 469 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 4: out there regularly, and she does lots of leg exercises. 470 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: So I ask. 471 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 4: I decided I was going to ask her. I said, 472 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 4: do you have any exercises. 473 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: Anything you could do to make my butt hurt? Oh? Boy, yeah, 474 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: this is taking a turn. You have a nice ass. 475 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 2: How do you work out? That's not what I said. 476 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 4: I said, I'm trying to figure out an exercise for 477 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 4: my lower body that makes my butt muscles sore. Do 478 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: I even like specifically work the butt muscles? And she said, 479 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 4: and she is very nice, and she gave me an answer, 480 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 4: but she started with and I've had this happen several 481 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 4: times where she said, yeah, my husband's trainer. First words 482 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 4: out of her mouth are my husband. To make it 483 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: clear that I've got a husband, and which is fine, 484 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 4: But is that the world we now live in? 485 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: Any question about anything ever? We got to draw the lines. 486 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: We got to get in the defensive position. 487 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 7: That might have been her ego thinking you were heading 488 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 7: on her. I've used that when a guy like I've 489 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 7: been at a bar and he starts talking, starting a conversation. 490 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 2: And I'll be like, oh, yeah, my husband just. 491 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 5: To be like yeah, bars and correct me if I'm wrong. 492 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 5: Because guys hit on women in Jim's. 493 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: A lot all the time. I can't imagine doing that. 494 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, so she probably thought you were approaching her and 495 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 7: asking her that question because you were trying to hit 496 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 7: on her, and that. 497 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: Was Jim, can I buy you a drink? Yeah, without 498 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: a doubt. See, I don't see the gym that way. 499 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 4: But mayb That's where I'm getting it wrong, because I 500 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 4: was about to say, well in a bar, that makes sense, 501 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: and I think it actually benefits both of you. I 502 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 4: don't see it as like I think it's a benefit 503 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 4: to both of you. Okay, cool, you're married. I alwish 504 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 4: I shouldn't waste my time here. I'll turn my attention elsewhere. 505 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: I think it's beneficial to both of you to do that. 506 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 507 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 4: I mean, but if a gym is if people feel 508 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 4: the gym as though because I don't feel I've never 509 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 4: felt the. 510 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 2: Gym is like a meet up place. I'm there to 511 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 2: exercise and get the hell out of there as fast 512 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: as I can. 513 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 7: A lot of people see the gym as a meet 514 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 7: up place. 515 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: Really O. Yeah. 516 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 4: Anyway, she says, well, this is where it takes another 517 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,959 Speaker 4: different interesting thing to me was she said, you, well, 518 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 4: my husband's trainer suggested this exercise and then she goes 519 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 4: into great detail to show me how to do it. 520 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: And she said, give me your number and I'll text 521 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 4: you the information. I said, okay, I wasn't going to 522 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 4: ask her for a number or give my number. I 523 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 4: never would have done that in a million years, because 524 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 4: that's way too far down the road of I said 525 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: sure and uh, and I gave her my number and 526 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 4: she texted me the information and I said thanks, like 527 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 4: with a wow. 528 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: I did not see that. It was a little charts 529 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 2: on Twist with a little chart on how to do 530 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: the exercise, and here's. 531 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 5: Some tasteful nude pictures of me and right. Also, I 532 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 5: enjoy long walks at midnight and then on the beach. 533 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 4: I did do the exercise and for the first time, 534 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 4: my butt muscles are sore, so I will continue that one. 535 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 7: Good. 536 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: That's good. 537 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 4: That's the that's the next card, Ashley. That's the right 538 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: exercise for me to increase my butt ducks. 539 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 5: Can you suggest an exercise that would make my glutes sore, 540 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 5: as if you spanked me good en arm? 541 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: Is that what she said? Door? 542 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 4: Sometimes when I'm hanging from my sex chair, my quads 543 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 4: get loose, and I wonder if I could take them 544 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 4: up some Now I wonder if there's I'd never thought 545 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 4: about this till now, because I've been ruminating about this 546 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 4: because I felt it made me feel really uncomfortable. She 547 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 4: as soon as she dropped it, well my husband, I thought, 548 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 4: you think I'm hitting on you. I'm not hitting on you. 549 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: I'm just asking to him question. 550 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it made me feel bad and uh, but then 551 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 4: when she asked for my number and then sent me 552 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 4: the thing and I said thanks, and then she didn't 553 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 4: reply at all, So she wasn't hitting on me by 554 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 4: asking for a number. 555 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 2: I thought, this is a completely non. 556 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 4: Hitting on each other normal used to happen interaction between 557 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 4: two grown ups, like. 558 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 2: I wasn't hittingen on you. You weren't hitting on me. 559 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 4: I asked you a question, you answered it like two 560 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 4: grown ups that aren't trying to do anything else other 561 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 4: interact in the world. 562 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 7: The interaction post the her, you know, my husband's trainer, 563 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 7: and then probably interacting with you. 564 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: She probably went, okay, this is just a regular. 565 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 4: I'm thinking safe enough quickly talking to me, she realized 566 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: I'm not like, yeah, I don't looking to hook up. 567 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 2: Vibe. 568 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 4: Just sad old man with earth. Just a sad old 569 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 4: man with a flabby ass, that's what I'm talking to. 570 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 4: Anything I can do to help him out? 571 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it was a very shorthand ways saying I'm 572 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 5: faithfully married. Do you still want to know about the exercise? 573 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh you think that's what it was. That's interesting. 574 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 4: Absolutely, So if I had been hitting on her as 575 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 4: soon as she mentioned her husband, I'd have been like, 576 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 4: never mind and walked away, or. 577 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 7: Just acted not interested, or you said something. 578 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 5: Else, something that glazed look in your eyes that you 579 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 5: weren't actually looking, and she would know. 580 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 7: But I mean, if you were acting genuinely interested in 581 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 7: the exercise and that was a legit question, then that 582 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 7: that anxiety goes away. 583 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 4: I'm sure it's tough to interact in the modern world. Well, 584 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 4: in certain places. In other places it's not. It's the 585 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 4: same as it's always been. 586 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 2: So coming up. 587 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 5: A conservative takes a shot at the Republicans, and he's 588 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 5: absolutely right, and a left he takes a shot at 589 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 5: the Democrats, and he's absolutely right. 590 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 2: I thought they were both pretty good takes. All right, 591 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to tease this again at risk of being 592 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: having things thrown at me. No, don't even say it. 593 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: They'd come across an Epstein email I thought was pretty interesting. 594 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: I just I'm with her say it again. 595 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 4: Sister husband said he doesn't want to hear about the 596 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 4: Epstein email, so never mind, I don't care about. Okay, 597 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 4: we got all that coming up. Stay here, excellent text. 598 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 4: I'm not going to reset what we just talked about. 599 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 4: It uh talked about if you get the podcast Armstrong 600 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 4: and getting on demand for the whole story about women 601 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 4: being comfortable interactions. 602 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: We got this text. 603 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 4: So in the kind of area I live in, it's 604 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 4: okay for women to be afraid of men in all 605 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 4: situations unless that guy is in your dressing room with 606 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 4: you naked. Then if you're a little uncomfortable with him, 607 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 4: there's something wrong with you. 608 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: How about that? So, in a public space, normal. 609 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 4: Interaction, you should be kind of uncomfortable that a man 610 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: has talked to you in the locker room. Guy there 611 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 4: with a swing in dingis if you're uncomfortable, there's something 612 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 4: wrong with you. 613 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: You're a bit of a transphobe, right, you're a pigot. 614 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, that is a great, great analysis of the hypocrisy 615 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 5: of the whole intersectional madness thing. Please, it's just loving 616 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 5: being a victim, loving grievance. Grievance is the gasoline of 617 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 5: the left. What's that on both ends of that? 618 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 619 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, one hundred percent. So a couple 620 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 5: of things. I hope we can squeeze this then If not, 621 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 5: we'll continue on next hour. If you don't get Next Hour, 622 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 5: grab it via podcast Armstrong and getting on demand. You 623 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 5: probably ought to follow us or subscribe. Rich Lowry of 624 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 5: the National Review, great writer, a great guy, taking a 625 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 5: shot at the Republicans after a quick shot at the 626 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 5: Democrats talking about the big shutdown fight, but extending those 627 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 5: Obamacare subsidies and that those ought to be you know, 628 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 5: continued in perpetuity the party's position in effect, he writes, 629 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 5: this is a great description. What the Democrats were trying 630 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 5: to do was we passed a sweeping healthcare reform that 631 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 5: we promised with lower costs, and now it's done the opposite. 632 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 5: So it is incumbent on Republicans than the name of 633 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 5: all that is good and right to support additional subsidies 634 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 5: for the law forever. 635 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 4: That's a pretty good and the any point, I wish 636 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 4: there was anybody that could have gone on one of 637 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 4: those talk shows and made that point. 638 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: No kidding, just one of them, not to mention that 639 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: they should have messaging that all of them, though, How 640 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: didn't somebody say to Christian Walker, wait a second, on 641 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: Meet the Press, wait a second, So you're telling me 642 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: the Affordable Care Act you need subsidies for people to 643 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: afford it. 644 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: Well, then apparently it wasn't very affordable. Yeah, yeah, unbelievable. 645 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 5: And like that old politico said many years ago, there 646 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 5: are two parties in Washington, the Evil Party and the 647 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 5: Stupid Party. Anyway, But then Rich points out the GOP 648 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 5: is so hopeless on healthcare it will have trouble countering 649 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 5: the argument. Fifteen years after the passage of Obamacare, and 650 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 5: after a major attempt to repeal it early in Trump's 651 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 5: first term, they still lack a concrete alternative the Republican Party. 652 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, and that's bothered me from the beginning. 653 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 4: But you realize we were just one. 654 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: But hurt. 655 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 4: John McCain thumbs down from changing all that he was 656 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 4: so angry at Trump for Trump saying, you know, in 657 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 4: my opinion, heroes don't get captured, which was an awful 658 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 4: thing to say. John McCain was so mad about that 659 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 4: he voted thumbs down when they actually had the momentum 660 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 4: to do something about Obamacare. 661 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: Wow, damn it. Wow. 662 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 5: As Avic Roy of the Foundation for Research on Equal 663 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 5: Opportunity points out, Barry Obama ran for president promising Obamacare 664 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 5: would reduce premiums by as much as twenty five hundred 665 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 5: bucks per family. That was every bit as dishonest as 666 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 5: if you like your plan, you can keep your plan, 667 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 5: and indeed the costs have skyrocketed anyway. Rich has some suggestions, 668 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 5: but yeah, the the Republican Party has to develop an alternative. 669 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 5: They have to come up with a coherent message for 670 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 5: what's wrong with Obamacare and then what to do about it. 671 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: Otherwise you don't deserve to govern. 672 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, but the way, but politically it would have to 673 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 4: include covering the same number of people, and I just 674 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 4: don't know that that's workable. 675 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 5: Well, all right, we're doomed as a country then, And 676 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 5: you're right, by the way, You're almost certainly right. And 677 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 5: then I thought this was interesting, undeniably a man of 678 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 5: the left, the kind of center normal left. For Reid Zacharia, 679 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 5: why Democrats keep flailing. Voters aren't rejecting government, They're rejecting 680 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 5: leaders who can't run it effectively. And then he writes, 681 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 5: it's hard to see how the government shut down and 682 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 5: reopenings anything other than a defeat for the Democrats, A 683 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 5: high stakes confrontation that ended with their own goals unmet 684 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 5: and their message muddled. Blah blah blah. Shutdown reinforces the 685 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 5: image of the Democrats is feckless. They promise wonderful sounding 686 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 5: new programs free childcare, for example, but in fact preside 687 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,239 Speaker 5: over bloated bureaucracies and inept execution. If America has an 688 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 5: affordability crisis tends to be in the place Democrats governed, 689 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 5: like New York, Illinois, California, which all feature high taxes, 690 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 5: soaring housing costs, and stagnant outcomes in basic areas like 691 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 5: education and infrastrut How good for you for. 692 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 4: Reied Zagaria for writing that it's so obos is true. 693 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 4: The fact that that doesn't get commented on more often. 694 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 4: The places where this sort of thing is being tried 695 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 4: is where it's least affordable to live. 696 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 2: Doesn't anybody notice that? Well? 697 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 5: And I could almost forgive that if the education was 698 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 5: excellent for the poor little kids, for instance, if the 699 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 5: streets were safe, if you know, if people could rise up. 700 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 2: Roads well paved. 701 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 4: Mentally, ill are all in hospitals because the atomic opportunity 702 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 4: for go getters. 703 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all of it. 704 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 5: And he goes into a fair amount of detail about 705 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 5: how miserable New York has become fiscally and education and 706 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 5: a bunch of other things under Mike after Mike Bloomberg 707 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 5: left office and de Blaggio took over, and how it's 708 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 5: going to be worse under Mumdani and the frightening amounts 709 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 5: of money New York State spends. It's spending has risen 710 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 5: from roughly seventy billion dollars in two thousand to two 711 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 5: hundred and thirty billion dollars today, out twice Florida's expenditure, 712 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 5: even though Florida has several million more residents. And he 713 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 5: points out Illinois ranks among the top in public education spending, yet. 714 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 2: Is middling in fourth grade reading and mass scores at best. Wow, 715 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 2: that should be the only answer democrats have is spend more. 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