WEBVTT - Fuel Economy: Good to the Last Drop

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Forward Thinking, either everyone, and welcome to Forward Thinking, the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast that looks at the future and says get your

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<v Speaker 1>motor running on the highway. I'm Jonathan Strickland and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Joe McCormick, and we wanted to talk a bit about

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<v Speaker 1>the concept of fuel economy and miles per gallon and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of demystify it because there's a lot of misunderstanding

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<v Speaker 1>out there. I think about what makes a car economic

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<v Speaker 1>as far as fuel consumption goes, and and the behaviors

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<v Speaker 1>that that tie into fuel economy. Right, well, it seems easy.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like you know, you've got this this miles

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<v Speaker 1>per gallon thing on a little sticker on your car

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<v Speaker 1>when you buy it, and and better miles per gallon

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<v Speaker 1>is better, right, higher miles per gallon equals Yes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, um, everybody's heard these words, but there's some

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<v Speaker 1>of these words that I don't know why certain terms

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<v Speaker 1>end up this way. But you know this concept of

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<v Speaker 1>semantic satiation where you hear a phrase so many times

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<v Speaker 1>that it stops having meanings. It becomes sort of a cone.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just you're just you hear it, and it just like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, those are words that I've heard in that

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<v Speaker 1>order before, but it doesn't actually have any applications. It

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<v Speaker 1>just sounds, you know, that's pretty much everything. My wife,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like that. It's a joke. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you're a sweet man. Okay, So let's make

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<v Speaker 1>miles per gallon reel again. Well, first of all, let's

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<v Speaker 1>apologize to anyone who's not in the United States who yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because this this is going to be a very US

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<v Speaker 1>centric kind of of topic, mostly because when we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about miles prig gallen, we're talking about a government agency

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States that actually tests this stuff, Environmental

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<v Speaker 1>Protection Agency. Yes, the e p a UH in the

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<v Speaker 1>US tests vehicles and then gives the miles pregallon rating

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<v Speaker 1>for both city miles and highway miles for every vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>sold in the United States. Well, and it's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that foreign countries don't have some kind of Some countries

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<v Speaker 1>that are not the US rather have you know, don't

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<v Speaker 1>have never heard of this kind of thing. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's either leaders per kilometer or um. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the designation in many metric using countries, these days

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<v Speaker 1>is leaders per hundred kilometers actually, but I'll get into

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<v Speaker 1>that in a moment. Right, A hundred that actually seems

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<v Speaker 1>maybe more useful because it's more averaged out, it's more

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<v Speaker 1>averaged out, and it gives you a more manageable number

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<v Speaker 1>to think about. Well, yeah, I guess miles per gallon though,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's comes from some kind of averaging process.

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<v Speaker 1>But then, but then, you know, it's not that every

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle has the same amount of storage space like tank space, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So miles per gallon is really only useful if you're

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<v Speaker 1>actually doing the math in your head of well, my

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<v Speaker 1>my tank can hold twelve point five gallons and it

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<v Speaker 1>gets forty miles to the gallon, which means that a

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<v Speaker 1>full tank of gas, I've got to contact my child

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<v Speaker 1>who's in school and can still do math. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's but if you're talking about miles to

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<v Speaker 1>the hundred, you know, how many leaders for a hundred kilometers,

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<v Speaker 1>then that gives you a better idea of how far

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<v Speaker 1>you can go based upon a certain amount of fuel.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also when you're comparing vehicles that makes it

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<v Speaker 1>pretty easy. But what does the e p A do

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<v Speaker 1>well Technically, it does one of two things. Either will

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<v Speaker 1>test a vehicle at its National Vehicle and Fuel Emissions

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<v Speaker 1>Laboratory in vf e L, which is an an arbor Michigan. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>It will either put a vehicle through tests there, or

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<v Speaker 1>they will also accept vehicle manufacturers data on the subject.

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<v Speaker 1>So if the manufacturer has done its own tests and

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<v Speaker 1>the data, they can send the data into the e

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<v Speaker 1>p A, and the e p A will use that

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<v Speaker 1>and its rating. What happens if they're not entirely truthful.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question, and I don't have the answer

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<v Speaker 1>to it. I would I would suspend. I'm hoping that

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<v Speaker 1>they that they only accept data of a certain scientific rigor.

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine, so, although I cannot that, I am

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<v Speaker 1>fairly certain. And that's well at any rate in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States anyway, particularly in well not everywhere, but many

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<v Speaker 1>places the United States, you have to do what are

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<v Speaker 1>called emissions testing, where you are making sure that your

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle emissions are within certain parameters. And UH, I would

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<v Speaker 1>suspect that if a lot of vehicles were testing outside

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<v Speaker 1>of it of a particular make and models. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's related to malls pre Gallant. It's not analogous

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<v Speaker 1>to it. It's not exactly the same thing, but any anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So the e p a UH uses this information not

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<v Speaker 1>only to put on the stickers of cars, and by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, those stickers have changed over the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years, they've been updated, and I'll talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>in a second, But they also provide this information about

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<v Speaker 1>the fuel economy to various other departments within the United

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<v Speaker 1>States government. Some of them would be pretty easy for

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<v Speaker 1>you to guess, like the Department of Energy. The Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Energy uses those to create its annual Fuel Economy Guide.

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<v Speaker 1>They also send this information to the Department of Transportation,

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<v Speaker 1>which uses this information to create its Corporate Average Fuel

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<v Speaker 1>Economy program I'll soon as Cafe CF and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a little accent over it, so who knows. And

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<v Speaker 1>then of course they send it off to everyone's favorite

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<v Speaker 1>governmental agency in the entire world, Internal Revenue RS. That's

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<v Speaker 1>for their gas guzzler taxes programs where they get taxed

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<v Speaker 1>more if you're having a vehicle that is not very efficient. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so there are a lot of different incentives to getting

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<v Speaker 1>a fuel efficient car, one of which is just that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to spend so much money whenever you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to the to the gas station, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to have to go frequently. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>you hate the planet Earth, You've actually got a totally good,

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<v Speaker 1>selfish reason to want to get really good fuel economy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to have to refuel all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to be some kind of environmentalists to

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<v Speaker 1>to really want to maximize milesburg Allen. Sure. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be able to to stretch your dollar

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<v Speaker 1>as far as it will go, right in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>But assuming you don't hate the Earth, well, assuming you

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<v Speaker 1>don't hate the Earth, you'll also want to be very

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<v Speaker 1>economic with your fuel consumption to produce fewer greenhouse gases,

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<v Speaker 1>to also create less demand in general for fuel, because

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<v Speaker 1>that causes you know that that's there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>energy that's just put into getting fuel, refining fuel, getting

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<v Speaker 1>it to the place where it needs to be. There's

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<v Speaker 1>also from a national perspective, there is a a an

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<v Speaker 1>incentive to reduce our dependence upon foreign oil politically. Politically, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because there are a lot of purposes reasons there, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, granted that's been changing a lot recently anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>with different techniques for getting oil out of the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>But all of these factor into reasons why fuel economy

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<v Speaker 1>is a big deal, from the very personal to the

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<v Speaker 1>global scale. So the way they do this is they

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<v Speaker 1>test out these vehicles in this facility and they try

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<v Speaker 1>two different general styles of driving, which have undergone some

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<v Speaker 1>tweaking over the years as Bull's driving habits in general

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<v Speaker 1>have changed. Keep in mind, all of this is very

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<v Speaker 1>very generalized. The individual driving style is going to determine

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about the fuel economy of a specific vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>more than just these tests. So Lauren could be driving, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same type of car that Joe drives, but

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<v Speaker 1>both of your driving styles may be very different, so

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<v Speaker 1>your actual experience of how frequently you need to refuel

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<v Speaker 1>could also be different. It also depends, I mean, because

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<v Speaker 1>because I think, Jonathan, that you're about to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>highway versus city driving, and and that also depends highly

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<v Speaker 1>on um. I mean, you know, what you would consider

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<v Speaker 1>a highway here in Atlanta, you perhaps would not reach

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<v Speaker 1>the speeds that sometimes of day that you would reach

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<v Speaker 1>on a highway in any other place on the planet

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<v Speaker 1>besides Los Angeles. Well, Los Angeles and Atlanta have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in common as far as the driving habits are concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, I mean it's in general. The way they

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<v Speaker 1>define this, it's it's called city versus highway. But really

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<v Speaker 1>what they mean is with highway driving, it's you're the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that you're traveling at what the speed limit would

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<v Speaker 1>be on your typical highway, at cruising speed without a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of acceleration or deceleration or breaking. So, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>your engine would be operating at a consistent level for

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<v Speaker 1>a prolonged period of time. How many miles pre gallon

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<v Speaker 1>would you get in that set of circumstances. That's so

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<v Speaker 1>that's highway miles, and those, of course tend to be greater.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they are. They are greater than city miles,

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<v Speaker 1>because what city miles are. That's the idea of if

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<v Speaker 1>you're driving around in an area where you do have

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<v Speaker 1>to decelerate or accelerate depending upon you know, traffic lights,

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<v Speaker 1>traffic itself, stop signs, that kind of thing. Um, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be using the brakes a lot, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have a lot of idle time. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>say that you come up to a stop stop light

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<v Speaker 1>where you're gonna be sitting there for about thirty seconds

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<v Speaker 1>just running your engine with your brakes to press down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. That ends up consuming fuel. So your city

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<v Speaker 1>miles are always fewer than your highway miles. But they

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<v Speaker 1>test this in laboratory additions. So first of all, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not directly analogous to what you are going to experience

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<v Speaker 1>on a day to day basis driving your vehicle. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're driving your vehicle, whether it's in Atlanta, which

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<v Speaker 1>can be a traffic nightmare for anyone who has traveled

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<v Speaker 1>through our beautiful city, or someplace where the traffic is

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<v Speaker 1>considered to be pretty light and well managed, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>going to be different than what you see on that sticker.

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<v Speaker 1>You might have a little sticker shock when you start

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<v Speaker 1>actually figuring out how many miles prell in your car

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote really gets compared to what it says on

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<v Speaker 1>the sticker. But that depends both on the real world

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<v Speaker 1>situation you're in and you're driving habits. Now, back in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eleven, the e p A and the

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<v Speaker 1>National Highway Traffic Safety Administration redesigned the miles per gallon

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<v Speaker 1>stickers on cars. So if you haven't bought a car

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<v Speaker 1>recently or haven't been shopping for a car recently. The

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<v Speaker 1>stickers will look a little different to you now, depending

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<v Speaker 1>upon if they've rolled them out yet or not. They were.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they began in all model year cars. Yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but but I think that was a It wasn't. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if it was mandatory. It was not mandatory.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of those things that people that manufacturers

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<v Speaker 1>and dealerships could opt into doing, and more and more

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<v Speaker 1>are doing that because it tends to reflect well in sales.

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<v Speaker 1>But generally the stickers now have lots of stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>there besides just these two numbers. So originally you would see,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the highway highway miles per gallon and the

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<v Speaker 1>city miles per gallon. Now it goes into things like

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<v Speaker 1>a comparison of the energy use and cost between uh

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<v Speaker 1>that particular vehicle and a typical gasoline powered vehicle the average.

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<v Speaker 1>So take all the vehicles across the entire line average

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<v Speaker 1>that out, that would compare your vehicle, the vehicle you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at, versus that that hypothetical average vehicle. So and

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of of savings specifically in fuel that you

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<v Speaker 1>would assuming that you would get that because you could

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<v Speaker 1>have you could have a you could be looking at

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<v Speaker 1>a vehicle that falls below this average, in which case

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<v Speaker 1>you would see that there's a deficit there um. But

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<v Speaker 1>it would give you the idea of UH, how it

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<v Speaker 1>matches up against this sort of hypothetical average vehicle. It

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<v Speaker 1>would also give you estimates on how much you'll save

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<v Speaker 1>UH per year on fuel costs compared to this average vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>So it might say, you know, if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>buy this, you would save two thousand dollars per year

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<v Speaker 1>on fuel costs or eight thousand dollars per year. It

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<v Speaker 1>all depends on what kind of vehicle you're looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>It also gives ratings on how your vehicle compares to

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<v Speaker 1>others when it comes to greenhouse gas emissions, which again,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're environmentally conscious, that could be a very important

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<v Speaker 1>component to buying a car. There also will give an

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<v Speaker 1>estimate of how much fuel or electricity it requires to

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<v Speaker 1>drive one miles, So this is more similar to the

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<v Speaker 1>approach you were talking about about the leaders to a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred kilometers. This would give you an idea of how

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<v Speaker 1>how many how much gas do you need to go

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred miles or how much of a charge does

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<v Speaker 1>it take to go a hundred miles? So you can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of make that determination of is this vehicle efficient

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<v Speaker 1>for the way I use vehicles. If I go on

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of cross country trips, Uh, an electric vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>may not be very Uh, it might not be a

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<v Speaker 1>good decision for me, just because the way that I

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<v Speaker 1>would need to recharge it. I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 1>would be able to hit enough recharging stations, and the

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<v Speaker 1>recharging time it takes to get back to a full

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<v Speaker 1>charge might mean that a different kind of vehicle would

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<v Speaker 1>be better for me. But if I do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of short trips in a city, an electric vehicle may

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<v Speaker 1>make perfect sense. So these are the sort of things

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<v Speaker 1>that allow you to make those kind of decisions with

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<v Speaker 1>as much information as possible. It also gives you the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of the driving range information for electric vehicles, plus

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<v Speaker 1>the actual amount of time it takes to charge one

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<v Speaker 1>to full charge from empty. And uh, like you said, Lauren,

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<v Speaker 1>the labels began to roll out late into It's still

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<v Speaker 1>being adopted in some places and some places it may

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<v Speaker 1>not have been adopted yet. But if you see one

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<v Speaker 1>of these, that's what you know. That's what this is

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<v Speaker 1>all about is to give the consumer more information when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to few economy, and of course things have

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<v Speaker 1>made that more complicated. Everything from hybrid cars and electric

0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.960
<v Speaker 1>vehicles have made this a very difficult conversation to have

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways because we don't all we're not all

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<v Speaker 1>using the same power source, right, We're not all using

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<v Speaker 1>the same sort of fuel, So that makes it a

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<v Speaker 1>little tricky when you're starting to try and make comparisons. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>what is a gallon of gas compared to the output

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<v Speaker 1>of electricity from a nuclear power plant? For this is

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<v Speaker 1>a coal power plant. Are you are you charging your

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<v Speaker 1>car at peak our journey? Yeah? Sure, yeah. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different factors. It makes it pretty complex,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can understand why this is a confusing subject.

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<v Speaker 1>But even if you're just looking at miles per gallon,

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<v Speaker 1>that alone gets pretty confusing. That also ties into a

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<v Speaker 1>tool I wanted to mention, the instant miles per gallon readout,

0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.320
<v Speaker 1>which is also known as an instant fuel consumption display

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<v Speaker 1>or instant fuel economy gauge. Now, if you've ever driven

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<v Speaker 1>a hybrid vehicle, you've seen one of these, because they're

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<v Speaker 1>standard and just about re hybrid vehicle. I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>This is. This is what tells you how much gas

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<v Speaker 1>you are consuming at the current moment, at that precise moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen even non hybrid vehicles. Sure, there are non

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<v Speaker 1>hybrid vehicles that have it's just that you find them

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<v Speaker 1>in all hybrid vehicles at this point as far as

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<v Speaker 1>I know. But yeah, this is starting to become something

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<v Speaker 1>that you'll see in other vehicles as well. Uh. In

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<v Speaker 1>fact that I've driven, well, I've written in a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of vehicles. At least I don't drive, so I am

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong person to talk about the personal experience. But

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<v Speaker 1>how these work. They actually have lots of different sensors,

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<v Speaker 1>and the sensors are all collecting data on various things

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<v Speaker 1>that are going on inside your car. For example, the

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<v Speaker 1>how hard your engine is working. Their sensors that measure

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<v Speaker 1>that and factor that. There are sensors that measure the

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<v Speaker 1>fuel flow rate through the fuel lines of your vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>There are manifold pressure uh sensors. Now, your manifold, in

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<v Speaker 1>case you don't know, the intake manifold is a series

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<v Speaker 1>of tubes that distributes air into your engine so that

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<v Speaker 1>it can mix with the fuel so that it will combust.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you laughing at joke? A series of tubes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the Internet. It's not the Internet. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>totally different series of tubes. Um, But no, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a series of tubes. It's you know, these

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<v Speaker 1>tubes open or clothes, depending upon the cycle that your

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<v Speaker 1>engine is in, because in some cycles it needs to

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<v Speaker 1>take an air and the rest of them you do

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<v Speaker 1>not want those to be open. But it will measure

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<v Speaker 1>the manifold pressure. There are other sensors that will measure

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<v Speaker 1>the throttle position of the vehicle. And there is a

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<v Speaker 1>central computer that takes in all this information that's been

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<v Speaker 1>gathered up by the sensors and then calculates how much

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<v Speaker 1>fuel is being consumed at that exact moment, sending that

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<v Speaker 1>information to some sort of display that is easily readable

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<v Speaker 1>uh for the driver. Uh. And this will give you

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<v Speaker 1>an instant look at what what your your car is

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<v Speaker 1>doing at that time. And in fact, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a vehicle in the United States anyway, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a vehicle that was manufactured after but does not have

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<v Speaker 1>one of these, it's very easy to get one installed.

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<v Speaker 1>Because any vehicle manufactured after that year sold in the

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<v Speaker 1>US had to have as part of it an onboard

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<v Speaker 1>diagnostic system or the O b D two. Uh. This

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<v Speaker 1>is essentially a computer on your in your car that

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<v Speaker 1>it's monitoring everything that's going on in your engine and

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. Exactly. Yeah, So if your engine check engine

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<v Speaker 1>light comes on, that's because something has been detected by

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<v Speaker 1>this on board system and it tells the light to

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<v Speaker 1>come on, which of course tells you to put a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of tape over that light. Uh. The but no,

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<v Speaker 1>you can have you can have one of these gauges

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<v Speaker 1>connected to that system. I would not do this myself

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<v Speaker 1>because I am not a car guy. I would actually

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<v Speaker 1>have someone else do it for me. But I have

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<v Speaker 1>been told that it's one of those relatively easy things

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<v Speaker 1>to do for yourself if you're if you're the handy type,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not, so I would. I would leave that

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<v Speaker 1>to someone who is much more confident in their abilities

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<v Speaker 1>to work with the car without ruining it at any rate.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can get these that are standard with your vehicle,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them are optional with vehicles, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>there are aftermarket solutions like I just said, and this

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<v Speaker 1>will give you that instant look at what your car

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<v Speaker 1>is doing. So if you think of the e p

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<v Speaker 1>A numbers as kind of like climate and the instant

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<v Speaker 1>gauge as being weather. That's kind of the idea here,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the climate is sort of the long term, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you can expect as sort of the average under

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<v Speaker 1>average conditions. The instant gauge gives you exactly what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>at that moment and can even tell you what which

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<v Speaker 1>of your behaviors as a driver are contributing to fuel consumption. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know. Part of it is just that it's

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<v Speaker 1>making you more self aware of what you're doing, the

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<v Speaker 1>same way that that wearing a fitness tracker, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to make you more self aware of your movement. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's part of what that entire switch from

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<v Speaker 1>miles per gallon to gallons per mile thought is about

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<v Speaker 1>researchers at Duke who had had an argument while car

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<v Speaker 1>pooling in a hybrid car put together a study true

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<v Speaker 1>backed they did, um, put put together a study and

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<v Speaker 1>found that when you express things as gallons per one miles,

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<v Speaker 1>people are able to make a better judgment call about

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<v Speaker 1>what car of of two, or or what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>upgrade is going to be more I love that the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that study was done is because some scientists had

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<v Speaker 1>an argument in the car pool lane. That to me, like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how science has done. People. You get a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of scientists together, maybe get a drink until not if

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to behind the wheel obviously, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>then they start getting in an argument. Next thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>science happens. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how quantum mechanics

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<v Speaker 1>came about. Turn off the A C. Let him get

0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:41.480
<v Speaker 1>a little cranky. Turning off the A C is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the ways that you can save fuel. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>look into So what are some ways that the average

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<v Speaker 1>person can get better miles per gallon or gallons per

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<v Speaker 1>mile or uh fuel ecout leaders per hundred kilometers. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say fuel economy out of their standard car. For

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<v Speaker 1>my sanity, let's say feel coconomy. Okay, well, you know,

0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.520
<v Speaker 1>like like I said, air conditioning, and there is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of buzz about you know, if if you're

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<v Speaker 1>cruising around town and you have your windows rolled down

0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:12.359
<v Speaker 1>and you accidentally form rhyme schemes while you're just talking

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<v Speaker 1>in conversation, Um, that's not a necessary part of the equation.

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<v Speaker 1>What would the drag from the open windows create uh

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<v Speaker 1>more taxing energy than the A C unit. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you have the windows rolled up a C blasting,

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<v Speaker 1>or you had the A C off but the windows

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<v Speaker 1>rolled down and the drag affecting the car, is one

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<v Speaker 1>more inefficient than the other. Basically, if you're if you're

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<v Speaker 1>rolling around town, if you're if you're not getting up

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<v Speaker 1>to highway speeds of say over fifty miles an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>then go ahead roll your windows down and suffer, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the terrific air if you like to roll your

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<v Speaker 1>windows down and have the A C blasting at fifty

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<v Speaker 1>because then your villain and captain planets. That's fair, that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>He sludge, what were their names? He has had some

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<v Speaker 1>words with me in the past. I'm forgetting entirely right now, Joe. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're if you're idling for more than a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>turning off your engine, it seems like it would be

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<v Speaker 1>a drastic thing. But if you know that a stoplight,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, is going to take more than more than

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, and and that's that's getting a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>into um. Something called a hyper miling, which I believe

0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Joe is going to talk about in a seconds. That's

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<v Speaker 1>also something that's going into the design of vehicles, and

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<v Speaker 1>we can probably expect to see that rolled out over

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<v Speaker 1>the next few years. A lot of more hybrid vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>do this all the time, but a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>standard gasoline powered vehicles are starting to get into this

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<v Speaker 1>start stop or idle stop mode where if the car

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<v Speaker 1>detects that it's an idol, it'll end up shutting off

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<v Speaker 1>the engine. When you depress the accelerator, it will cause

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<v Speaker 1>the engine to come back on, and that way it

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<v Speaker 1>will cut down on fuel consumption automatically. So right now

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<v Speaker 1>you've got people who are doing this manually unless they

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<v Speaker 1>happen to have one of the vehicles that like a

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<v Speaker 1>hybrid that does this already. Uh. But soon it's not

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<v Speaker 1>even going to be a manual thing. It's just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be built into various vehicles, right um uh. Furthermore, don't

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<v Speaker 1>speed um cars. Cars gain efficiency up to about fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five miles per hour, about eighty eight kilometers per hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and after that they lose fuel efficiency. Um. It can

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, for for another ten miles per hour,

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<v Speaker 1>what's that kilometers per hour, you can lose like efficiency.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the Department of energy. You Also, if you

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<v Speaker 1>were to go fifty five miles per hour on an

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta highway, you would probably be run off the road. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like obviously this is a thing that that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, don't don't disobey traffic laws and don't get

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<v Speaker 1>yourself killed in order to save fuel. That would that

0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:51.840
<v Speaker 1>would not kind of defeats the purpose. No other basic

0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:55.480
<v Speaker 1>stuff coasting too stops rather than accelerating into a red

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<v Speaker 1>light and then breaking. Really sharply, I can't believe everybody

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<v Speaker 1>does this. I ride with people who there's a red

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<v Speaker 1>light up ahead and they're still pressing the gas. What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on? It makes me very nervous or um or

0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't say anything because I've been yelled at too

0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:14.040
<v Speaker 1>many times. Or consider idling forward when you pull out

0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:17.960
<v Speaker 1>rather than peeling out. Um quick acceleration is always going

0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:22.080
<v Speaker 1>to be your your biggest gas guzzler. Remove excess baggage

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<v Speaker 1>from your car if you've got, uh, you know, removing

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of rule of thumb is that removing a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred pounds or about forty of weight from your car

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<v Speaker 1>will give it a boost of one in fuel economy.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so don't just leave stuff laying around in

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<v Speaker 1>your car if it doesn't need to be there right

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<v Speaker 1>right got Um, Changing your air filter will not help uh,

0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:49.600
<v Speaker 1>contrary to popular belief, unless your cars from before nine Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But a tune up can improve mileage by about four

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<v Speaker 1>percent and keep your keep Keeping your oil fresh and

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<v Speaker 1>clean um and and of the right grade for your

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<v Speaker 1>car can give you another efficient and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the things we're talking about here will also help cut

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<v Speaker 1>down on general maintenance fees as well if you're keeping

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:11.360
<v Speaker 1>your car in good condition. While you will have to

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 1>endure regular costs to keep your car in good working order.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, if you if you add those together,

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<v Speaker 1>that's still less than what you have to do if

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<v Speaker 1>you have to fix something, if something catastrophic happens. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's also the case in terms of keeping your tires

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<v Speaker 1>at the correct pressure. If you keep them at whatever

0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:33.639
<v Speaker 1>the correct pressure is for your car, you can you

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<v Speaker 1>can prevent like three fuel efficiency loss from drag. I.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, if you overinflate them, um, you can either

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<v Speaker 1>pop them and cause a terrible accident or um it

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:48.480
<v Speaker 1>will make breaking harder and therefore um it will cancel

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:52.560
<v Speaker 1>it any benefit you might have had. Yeah, So so really, obviously,

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:54.639
<v Speaker 1>taking care of your car is one of the big things,

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and just trying to avoid being overly aggressive when you're

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 1>driving is another. But there's some people who have really

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:07.120
<v Speaker 1>taken these techniques and extend them out to what one

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 1>might say is a crazy level, right, Joe, Yeah, So

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:15.760
<v Speaker 1>these people are called hyper milers. They are people who

0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>want to get hyper miles, just ridiculous amounts of miles

0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:26.639
<v Speaker 1>per gallon, totally unreasonable expectations for fuel economy and above

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and beyond what the e p A says. Right, A

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:31.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of what they do is based on the kind

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 1>of stuff Lauren just said, which is totally reasonable. Uh So,

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:37.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it's about optimizing your car. You want

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:40.159
<v Speaker 1>to remove all unnecessary way. You want to keep the

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 1>oil change, You want to keep the tire pressure optimal

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 1>and especially balanced so it's not more on one side

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 1>than the other. Um and to just slow down, right,

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like she was saying, if every few miles

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:57.680
<v Speaker 1>per hour you go beyond fifty five or so, you're

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>losing an incredible amount of efficiency. Um. So, stuff like

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 1>that is reasonable. Other stuff not so much. Now I'm

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 1>going to explain a few things here and do not

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:10.880
<v Speaker 1>take this as a queue to go try them. These

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>are not personal recommendations. We have we have moved out

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:17.199
<v Speaker 1>of the recommendations part of the episode. Yeah. Much of

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>this is frankly not safe. Um, and some of which

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 1>isn't exactly dangerous, could be majorly annoying to other people

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 1>on the road. Uh. Yeah. So one of the things

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 1>that these guys talk about is uh coasting, and so

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>coasting makes sense in one way. If you see up

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>ahead there's a red light or something like that, you

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:44.200
<v Speaker 1>don't want to continue applying gas. You want to slow

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 1>down and just coast. Another way of coasting, though, ties

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 1>in with the thing they want to do, which is

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>avoiding idling. So what you'll hear from a lot of

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 1>these hyper miler hobbyists is that they will turn the

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>gas off when they are going down here. Turn the

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:06.400
<v Speaker 1>gas off, turn the engine off. Do not do this, Okay.

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:10.200
<v Speaker 1>The police say that this is illegal in some places,

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and where it's not illegal, it's dangerous either way. Uh,

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 1>you should not be trying to do this. But they'll

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.879
<v Speaker 1>find every chance they can, essentially to turn the engine

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.680
<v Speaker 1>off because when a car is in neutral usually it's idling,

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:27.360
<v Speaker 1>which means it's using gas and you're getting zero miles burgallon,

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:29.679
<v Speaker 1>and they don't like that. So if you're stuck at

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:33.400
<v Speaker 1>a train, or if you're say, going through a drive through. Now,

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 1>typically hyper milers seem to hate drive throughs. You don't

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.439
<v Speaker 1>want to go through them. But if you do have

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:40.679
<v Speaker 1>to go through a drive through, what they're saying is

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>turn your engine off while you're sitting at the drive

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.199
<v Speaker 1>through and just wait for the person ahead of you

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>to go all the way through, and then you go

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>after them, which is I'm sure makes you extremely popular

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:57.119
<v Speaker 1>with the people behind you. Um. There is another idea,

0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:01.200
<v Speaker 1>which is um ridge riding. I'm not sure where this

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>fits into the safety picture, but the idea goes like this.

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 1>So every day on a standard road there might you know,

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 1>there are thousands of cars that go by, and eventually

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>they cause an erosion or deterioration in the parts of

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>the lane where the tires usually fall. So it's kind

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 1>of wearing away a little spot and it's creating depressions there.

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 1>And so the idea of ridge riding is to ride

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>in such a way that your tires do not you

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>fall in the ruts made by most other cars and

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I think the idea is that if the road is

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:43.400
<v Speaker 1>at all wet, you'll avoid the friction created by puddles there,

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 1>And if the road is not wet, you'll just generally

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>cut down on the surface contact between your tire and

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the road. Your your car is a little offset from

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:55.360
<v Speaker 1>where the average car has traveled down that road. Yeah.

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the experts say about the safety

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.400
<v Speaker 1>of this. It sort of sounds weird to me because

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like they're saying you want to ride like

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>off kilter of the lane. Yeah. I guess it would

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>depend upon the width of the lane. If the lane

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:11.719
<v Speaker 1>is is particularly you know, there's some anyone who's had

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>the pleasure of driving through Atlanta knows that lane with

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 1>this kind of a variable. Yeah. It's it's sort of

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 1>different things to different people, you know. Um, but Yeah,

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>there's some parts of Atlanta where you'll be in a

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 1>lane and you're thinking this this this lane is like

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>a car and a half wide, And there are other

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>ones where you're thinking, I hope no one's coming the

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:32.639
<v Speaker 1>other way, because even though this is technically a two

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>lane road, there's no space. Yeah. So I don't know

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>for a fact that that one is a safety hazard,

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>but I wouldn't recommend it, right, I would say hold

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>off and and let's wait till the facts are in. Yeah. Uh.

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 1>One that is absolutely not a good idea is known

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>as drafting. Um. This is where say you're on the

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>freeway and traffic is moving at seventy miles an hour

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and you want keep up with traffic and go quickly. Well,

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>why don't you just get over right behind a big

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>tractor trailer and and ride right up on his backside,

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Because then that cuts down on the air resistance. The

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>tractor trailers doing all the work for you creates a

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>slip stream, so it's sort of creating a cone of

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>air resistance that goes around the truck, and you're not

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>hitting it, so you're going just as fast, but with

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>much less friction from the atmosphere. MythBusters actually did a

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>segment on this where they tested it out to see

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>if I think they said it works. They showed at

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>least in their tests. Keep in mind that it's a

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>MythBusters test, and I love the MythBusters, But you know,

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things that gives you an implication.

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 1>You can't really think of it as necessarily scientifically rigorous,

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 1>but there their experiments that they did were seemed to

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>show that, yes, it was working. The only thing is

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>that it is really dangerous things that if if someone

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 1>in front of you breaks between between human human lapse

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>time of of seeing and reacting and reacting, um is

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>at least a second. Yeah, you become you become semi pete. Right,

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>you're well, you're you're putting yourself in danger, You're putting

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>other cars on the road in danger. It's just it's

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>a really horrible idea. Don't do this, Yeah, good, good,

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>good rule of them is is to have two seconds

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>between you and whatever is in front of you on

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>the highway. Yeah. I usually go with uh, I usually

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>hear three. But it's the same sort of idea, the

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>idea that you you look at something that the vehicle

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I have you has passed and start counting and if

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>you got to if you didn't even get to two,

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:41.719
<v Speaker 1>you are a little too close. You need to back off. Um. Okay,

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 1>So some other things that are definitely not as dangerous

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>as that, but uh, but maybe really annoying and obsessive

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 1>involved the meticulous planning of routes. UM. So you learn

0:30:54.800 --> 0:31:00.120
<v Speaker 1>exactly like, this route is ideal for the This is

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>going to end up costing me the least amount of fuel,

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>even if it's It might be a slightly longer route,

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:08.719
<v Speaker 1>but because there are fewer stops, that might mean that

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you get better fuel EFFICI Right, So if you if

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you go to like Google Maps or something and you

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>ask them for directions, they're typically going to just give

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>you the shortest route to get there, right, But that

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>isn't always the most fuel efficient route because if you're

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>if you have the choice of driving a longer route

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>with no other traffic on the road versus a shorter

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>route with a lot of red lights in traffic, the

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>longer route is in many cases going to be more

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna use less gas doing it because you're gonna

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 1>spend less time idling. You're gonna spend less time changing speeds.

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>That's a big thing. You want to avoid changing speed.

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Keep your engine at a nice consistent level and it

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to do a lot of work as it's

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>shifting up or down. Right. Um, Hills can be a

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>big thing to uh, ideally you'd want to just drive

0:31:57.880 --> 0:31:59.959
<v Speaker 1>while ideally I guess you'd want to drive downhill all

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:01.959
<v Speaker 1>the way, but which you can do if you live

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>in certain parts of San Francisco. The trouble is stopping.

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Um so a flat road is better than going over

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of hills. And then also there are even

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>more they're they're crazier things that people really do consider,

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>like cross winds and headwinds. Now, let me ask you

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>something about this, Joe, because I mean, I have heard

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>about hyper miling before this. Our our colleague Josh Clark

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>wrote an article for How Stuff Works about how hyper

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 1>miling works. He even and he chucked an episode of

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>stuff you should know about it. Uh so, but I

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 1>really didn't know much about it before I had heard

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 1>them talk about it. To your knowledge, do you know

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>if most people who are hyper milers are is that

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>something they do consistently, Like this is something they do,

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>This is a lifestyle choice for them that they do

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>to in order to really conserve on fuel or is

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>this one of those things that's more like I wonder

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>how little fuel it will take me if I do

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff to do it like almost like bragging rights.

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, Well, I obviously I'm not deeply embedded

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>in the hyper miler community. But I've done a little

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>reading online and from what I see, I don't think

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>it's like people who are really interested in, say the

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>environment or saving money all the time. I think it's

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>more often a hobbyist kind of thing, you know, like

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>like like min maxing your character in a role playing game.

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Me think Stephen King's short story about finding the shortest

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 1>shortcut between two points. It's a really good it's it's

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>a really good short story anyway. Um, But you just

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>think about all the things they go through. Um, I mean,

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I I do think getting really good fuel efficiency is

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>a cool thing to do if you show how to

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>do it, and paying attention can make a big difference.

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>But when you think about all the things they do,

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>in some cases it's it's such minutia, you know, just

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>these tiny little things this that you're adding up. You

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of have to think it has to be sort

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 1>of an intentional in most cases at least an intentional

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>lifestyle choice that that's sort of like a hobby. I mean,

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you think about like just the planning that goes into

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 1>choosing a parking space. If you're a hyper miler, right,

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>say you want to go park at some department store, Well,

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you don't actually want to park close to the door,

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>because the time you spend looking for a parking space

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>is going to be uh, fuel wasted while you're idling

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 1>or waiting for somebody to back out, or trying to

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.800
<v Speaker 1>get around where people are walking. Instead, what you probably

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 1>want to do is like find the closest possible parking

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 1>space to the entrance of the parking lot that faces outwards,

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>so that you don't have to back out of the

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>space when you're leaving. It makes me think like if

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.720
<v Speaker 1>you were to call up someone who was really serious

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>into this and say, hey, I was thinking about catching

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.919
<v Speaker 1>a movie, you'd get an answer like, cool, I've run

0:34:55.960 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the numbers. Uh. January seven, at one m p m.

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Is when we'll go. All the traffic lights they're gonna align.

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going to be playing, but that's

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>why when we're gonna go. Yeah. And then from a

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>from a money perspective, at a certain point, it sounds

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>like your time could be better used in collecting aluminum cans.

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>It comes down to that idea of of the people

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>who will go to incredible lengths to get out of

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 1>doing something and they end up expending way more energy

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and getting out of doing it than they would have

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>been just done it. Yeah. Yeah, like mega couponors or

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:30.720
<v Speaker 1>something like that. So I don't know. I think maybe

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>there are some people who do this out of you know,

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 1>something about about pollution or saving money. But but I

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>think in many cases it's just like a it's a

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 1>cool thing to figure out. Yeah, like I was able

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 1>to go fifty nine miles on a single gallon of gas,

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. Yeah, I mean, and you know

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.919
<v Speaker 1>not to Obviously, fuel economy is something that we are

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 1>actually concerned about. It's just one of those things where

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:57.799
<v Speaker 1>there's there's always extremes, right, uh. Interesting, I mean, just

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>remember all the stuff we engine that's reasonable and safe

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<v Speaker 1>by all means. Do it. Sure, it's gonna help. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna save you money, it's gonna save fuel, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>help save just yeah, just don't turn your engine off

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>while you're driving, and don't tailgate or tractor trailer. Right

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<v Speaker 1>Wait until those those uh at least the start stop

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<v Speaker 1>thing becomes a standard part of most vehicles, because then

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to worry about handling all that manually.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be done for you. Um. So I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about some of the the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that goes into engineering better fuel economy, especially moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of that is just coming up with new materials

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<v Speaker 1>to build cars out of stuff that's more lightweight, because

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<v Speaker 1>clearly the heavier vehicle is, the more work the engine

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<v Speaker 1>has to do to move it, and therefore the more

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 1>fuel it needs to consume in order to generate the

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 1>power necessary to move that vehicle. So if you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to make lighter vehicles, it takes less fuel to move them.

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<v Speaker 1>Not not tough to figure out. The government. The United

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<v Speaker 1>States government has put fuel economy standards at fifty four

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<v Speaker 1>and a half off miles per gallon by which is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty that's a pretty big jump from where we are

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<v Speaker 1>right now. A lot of this is gonna be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>will be helped by things like hybrid vehicles electric vehicles. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're talking about totally different set of standards there,

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<v Speaker 1>but hybrid vehicles UH end up consuming far less fuel than,

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<v Speaker 1>uh than a traditional gasoline only powered vehicle. UH. There's

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<v Speaker 1>also the talk about using smaller turbocharged engines with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of electric accessories to take the load off of

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>needing to burn more fuel, the idle stop features. We

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 1>have already mentioned, lots of developments in transmissions, going to

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<v Speaker 1>multi speed or continuously variable transmissions so that the engine

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<v Speaker 1>has uh to make fewer big steps whenever you are

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>putting increased or decreased demand upon the engine. So instead

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<v Speaker 1>of it shifting, you know, instead of having five speeds,

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe it has a hundred speeds. It's just that they're

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<v Speaker 1>all so so narrow that the engine doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>do a lot of to switch from one to the next.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's also the looking at some other future

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<v Speaker 1>fuel potential. There's still this idea that may come about

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<v Speaker 1>and may become a real viable thing of fuel cell vehicles.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, fuel cell vehicles are there, are there are some.

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<v Speaker 1>There are quite a few depending upon certain industries, but

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<v Speaker 1>very few for consumer uh uses because we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a hydrogen fuel infrastructure out there, so it's really hard

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>to refuel. You know, fuel cell ends up combining hydrogen

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and oxygen. Well, there are multiple different types of fuel cells,

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<v Speaker 1>but the kind we usually talk about with cars uses

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>hydrogen and oxygen. There's an electrochemical reaction where you harness

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the electricity given off and then your output is electricity, heat,

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>and water. So that's what you generate. Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to worry about generating other greenhouse gases

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.400
<v Speaker 1>besides water. Vapor which is a greenhouse gas and a

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>powerful one, but also can go right into the water cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's potential for that to actually come of age

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<v Speaker 1>in the next few years. That's gonna take a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of work. I mean, you're talking about building out an

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<v Speaker 1>entire infrastructure to support a fleet of vehicles for a

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>nation as large as the United States. That's a multibillion

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 1>dollar effort you're talking about. But it doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 1>it won't happen. It just means that it's very expensive

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to be Uh. It's it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be an easy, easy road to go down. I'm sorry

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 1>about the pun I didn't intended when I started. A

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 1>little sorry. There's also the development maybe we go back

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<v Speaker 1>to using more diesel vehicles that are running on biofuels. Uh.

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 1>We do use some biofuel in gasoline powered vehicles, ethanol,

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 1>for example, but bio diesel is something that could also

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>be uh an alternative. It may not mean that everyone

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:53.400
<v Speaker 1>will be driving it, but it might become a viable option,

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 1>or algae powered cars. Yeah sure, yeah, no, it's switch

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 1>grass powered cars, you know, this kind of idea. And

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<v Speaker 1>also just improvements in aerodynamic design cutting down on air

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 1>resistance can really help on fuel economy as well. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>that's not something you can do with your vehicle once

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 1>you bought it at you just want to add as

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 1>many spoilers as possible. Also, paint your vehicle read because

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>everyone knows the red ones go faster. Yeah. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>those are your general approaches. Like there may be something,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, monumental that gets developed over the next few

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 1>years that really affects fuel economy, but for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at small incremental improvements that can be seriously

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<v Speaker 1>boosted by consumer behavior. So this is something that you

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<v Speaker 1>really can have a personal effect on that that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to you're you'll see it reflected in things like how

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<v Speaker 1>much money you're spending per month on fuel. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing to to talk about. You guys, have

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<v Speaker 1>anything else you want to add about fuel economy. I

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<v Speaker 1>predict to the cars of the future will be powered

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<v Speaker 1>by winged pegasy is that that draw them with leather straps? Excellent?

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<v Speaker 1>I look forward to that. On a molecular level, I

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>completely agree with you, molecular Pegass. I was totally down

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:12.319
<v Speaker 1>with Mr Fusion, but I guess I'm outvoted Pegasus. It

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 1>is all right. So guys, if you agree with Joe's

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>assertion that soon mythological creatures will power all of our vehicles,

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<v Speaker 1>let us know so I can put you on a list.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say all, Oh, I'm sorry. I apologize. Don't

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>mean to put words Toro. Alright, So guys, if you

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:32.440
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