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Speaker 1: this is extremely funny. And I just like that specifically,

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Speaker 1: some of the some of the crimes around owned keeping

432
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: classified documents and this specific FBI director are both things

433
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Speaker 1: that either Trump signed into into law or he appointed himself. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is very funny. I have been talking to people

435
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: who have had UH security clearances and understand some of that,

436
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: and um, like the ship that they got from his

437
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: house and those eleven boxes or whatever is the kind

438
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: of thing that like does not get fucked with and

439
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: the way that Trump would like fucked with it. Like

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Speaker 1: it's I mean, the fact that the Espionage Act is

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Speaker 1: in play is pretty shocking. Um as is the fact

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00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: that brand Paul is now calling for the Espionage Act

443
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Speaker 1: to be dissolved, which like based absolutely incredibly based Randall.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is, yeah, it is, really, it is.

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Speaker 1: Really it is a thing to watch everyone go like,

446
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Speaker 1: you know, defund FBI, abolish FBI just because power gets

447
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: used against one person one's time, and you're like, oh,

448
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: this power only exists to hurt minorities. Why is it

449
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: being used to hurt me or someone who I who

450
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: I look up to. There's a discourse on the left

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Speaker 1: right now that is like, should we be working with

452
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Speaker 1: the right to defund the FBI or whatever? And here's

453
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: the thing, in my opinion, no, you should not work

454
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Speaker 1: with the right on any of this stuff because they

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Speaker 1: don't want to get rid of the FBI. They want

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Speaker 1: to take the weaponry empower that the FBI has and

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Speaker 1: they want to like deploy it differently, but they still

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Speaker 1: want that power to exist, right, Um, so no, you

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00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: can't work with them on that. However, if they start

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Speaker 1: actually trying to remove the Spion Age Act, then absolutely

461
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: we should vote to remove the SPIO. That's that's fine.

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00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,479
Speaker 1: Like just like if they actually vote to reduce funding

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Speaker 1: to federal law enforcement, that's fine. But that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: like you you act as if they're legitimately fighting against

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Speaker 1: any of this stuff. But um, when it comes to so,

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Speaker 1: I think that there's some potential evidence just the fact

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Speaker 1: that this rate happened that shows that maybe there are

468
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: folks in the Biden administration who understand the stakes of

469
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Speaker 1: the fight and are taking it seriously. Because this is potential,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and we'll see how it shakes out. It's

471
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: all still too early to know if like anything more

472
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Speaker 1: serious than his house being disrupted is going to happen.

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Speaker 1: But like, if they really throw down legally against Trump

474
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Speaker 1: in this way to try to stop him from being

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Speaker 1: able to hold office again and to try to actually

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Speaker 1: punish him for his abuses of power, um, that's potentially

477
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Speaker 1: a pretty smart move if they have the stones, right,

478
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Speaker 1: That's a big question is like are they going to

479
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Speaker 1: back down because the rights starts threatening to shoot things up. So, like,

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Speaker 1: the scary thing potential here is that the right wing

481
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Speaker 1: starts howling about how they're going to do a bunch

482
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Speaker 1: of murders over this, and so the d o J

483
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: backs off and the right is like, well, what if

484
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Speaker 1: we just threatened to commit mass murder anytime something we

485
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: don't like happens, Maybe that's how we win politics. Now,

486
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Speaker 1: the positive with this is that, like the way fascists

487
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Speaker 1: succeed historically is because people who are not fascists are

488
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: not really willing to fight them, and so the fascists

489
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: go for it and everybody else backs off because they're

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Speaker 1: scared of having a fight. Right, So if this shows

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00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: that there's actually some teeth within the Democratic Party to

492
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Speaker 1: throw down, that's potentially a sign that like they've started

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Speaker 1: to recognize where the stakes are. Um, that shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: taken as too high of a possibility. I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: a post from David froome Um, famed centrist idiot, who's

496
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Speaker 1: talking about how he thinks of de santis nomination represented

497
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: a much better outcome for the whole country than a

498
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: Trump return. Maybe you don't like his manner or record,

499
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: but he's a recognizably normal US politician. Oh no, if defeated,

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00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: he'd go peacefully. Like, first off, great, incredible that that's

501
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: where we are right now, that you're like, well, he's

502
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: a fine He would be a fine candidate for the

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Speaker 1: Republicans to run because he wouldn't try to overthrow the

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Speaker 1: country if he lost. Number one, not certain about at

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Speaker 1: but number two, um, yikes. Again, if David Fruit is

506
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Speaker 1: saying something, he's wrong, right, that is that is the

507
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Speaker 1: rule of the rule of David Fru. He's one of

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Speaker 1: those kind of like thinkers in American politics or whatever

509
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: he's saying is not right. Yeah, And like in the

510
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Speaker 1: Santis like right now, is like very openly like getting

511
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Speaker 1: his people in position to take control of the Florida

512
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Speaker 1: like to take control of Florida's like election procedures, Like

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Speaker 1: he has this guy assaults attorney general. It's like he's

514
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: like very openly trying to do a what was the

515
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Speaker 1: guy's name, Kelp who rigged the election in Georgia a

516
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: few years ago. Yeah. Yeah, he's like very obviously prepping

517
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Speaker 1: to do that. And it's like, I'm sure it'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: He seems like a normal enough, guy, Yeah, we'll pa.

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Speaker 1: I do want to just read before we close out,

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Speaker 1: read a few things that how how the FBI and

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Speaker 1: how the DHS have been talking about the threats that

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Speaker 1: they've been seeing, because how the kind of institutions of

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Speaker 1: power talking about these same things is worth noting. Um.

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Speaker 1: They released a memo saying that there are threats quote

525
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: occurring primarily online and across multiple platforms, including social media sites,

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Speaker 1: web forms, video sharing platforms, and image boards. The FBI

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Speaker 1: and DHS have observed an increase and violent threats post

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Speaker 1: on social media against federal officials and facilities, including a

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00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: threat to places so called dirty bomb in front of

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Speaker 1: the FBI headquarters and issuing general calls for civil war

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Speaker 1: and armed rebellion. UM. So yeah, they said that they're

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00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: they're they're looking at their looking at threats through like

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Speaker 1: uh specifically and identifying proposed targets, tactics and weaponry. Um.

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Speaker 1: And you know, it goes it goes on to talk

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Speaker 1: about the targeted for people in like the judicial system,

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00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: enforcement government officials associated with the Palm Beach search, the

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00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: targeting the federal judge who who approved the search warrant um,

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00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: and the FBI has also observed the personal identifying information

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00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: of possible targets of violence, such as the home addresses

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Speaker 1: and identification of family members, disseminated online as additional targets.

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Speaker 1: So in terms of like what like the attack surfaces

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Speaker 1: on these types of you know, image boards and social

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Speaker 1: media sites. Uh even UM. But before before Schifferd did

544
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: his attack, he posted when they come for you kill them,

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00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: being American and not a steer, And I think other

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00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: kind of things that could be at play and things

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00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: that are worrying me as stuff develops. Not they're worrying me,

548
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: not because they're convincing. They're worrying me because they don't

549
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: need to be convincing. UM. Deceptively edited photos and videos

550
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: have gone viral across social media over the past week

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00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: following the search UM. While guest hosting Tucker Carlson tonight

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00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: on Fox News, Brian Clemide showed a fake image of

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Speaker 1: the judge who signed off on this on the search warrant,

554
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 1: sitting beside uh is Glyssie and Maxwell. How do how

555
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: do you say her name? Jis Lane? Jis Lane? You

556
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: know it's it's gill Gill Gillen Backwell, so, you know,

557
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: showing this you know, quote unquote meme while not saying

558
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: it's a meme, just showing the picture. On Friday, a

559
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: fake video purporting to show another Fox host, Sean Hannity

560
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: arguing with Florida Governor Ronda Sante's over the definition of

561
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Speaker 1: what an FBI rate is, But that discussion never happened.

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Speaker 1: This was spliced together footage from years apart in different

563
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Speaker 1: interview segments. Um hours after the video went viral on Twitter,

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00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: the platform did play the manipulated media label. Umuh and yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's this kind of stuff that is going

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Speaker 1: to be you know, in terms of like you know,

567
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 1: trying to prospect, trying to like prospect what the next

568
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: few years could be, depending on who who the president is,

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Speaker 1: what types of like media is going to be popular,

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Speaker 1: How this is going to kind of impact the temperature

571
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Speaker 1: politically and how people take in information and how people

572
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: are willing to turn information into action in terms of

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Speaker 1: taking out violence. How often these little small things are happening.

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Speaker 1: Is it's it's this, It's could be the start of

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Speaker 1: a of a thing that becomes a much bigger problem

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00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: very soon. Yeah. Um, I think maybe like in terms

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Speaker 1: of the temperature rising. We should discuss just really briefly,

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00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: these other sort of um more or less baseless or

579
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: sort of wildly off base conspiracies around law enforcement that

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00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: we've seen on the right, like in the last few weeks.

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Speaker 1: Um we do we want to talk about those? Do

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Speaker 1: we want to talk about those separately? I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: what you're referring to. So there's there's a couple of

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Speaker 1: things that have happened that have sent like the right

585
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: pretty sort of crazy in the last few weeks. One

586
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: is the in the Inflation Reduction Act. There's there's this

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Speaker 1: part where they say they're going to hire eighty seven

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00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: thousand new I R S agents, right, Yes, yes, A

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00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: large part of that is replacing the massive amount of

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Speaker 1: virus people who are about to retire. UM, and the

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00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: rest of it is getting them back up to sort

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Speaker 1: of where they were a few years ago. It's not

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Speaker 1: like they're going to actually hid three pandemic levels. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So there are like seventy thousand I think half of

595
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Speaker 1: them I supposed to retire in the next five years.

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Speaker 1: They want to hire eighty seven thousand over the next

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Speaker 1: ten years, so that will get them up like twenty

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Speaker 1: thirty two to to where they were in nineteen or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So it's not what it's portrayed as. But that combined

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Speaker 1: I think with um, the A t F visiting a

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Speaker 1: guy's house, which I know Garrison and I saw memes

602
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: about in this crazy little conservative newspaper that we are there.

603
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: We came across when we're reporting on a story, UM

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Speaker 1: and the A t F reclassifying some think as of

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Speaker 1: things that are called A R pistols, which you probably

606
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Speaker 1: don't need to explain everything, saying that they're a workaround

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Speaker 1: for federal firearms or is that fair. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 1: bunch of different there's a bunch of kinds of guns

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Speaker 1: that you're not supposed to be allowed to have without

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Speaker 1: a special tax stamp, which is like a whole additional

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Speaker 1: legal process in order to basically make sure that poor

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Speaker 1: people can't own certain types of specific firearms. And there's

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Speaker 1: workarounds where things function the same way as those guns

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Speaker 1: that are normally illegal, but they aren't technically that in

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Speaker 1: the FBI or not in the A t F is

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00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: about to crack down on some of that. UM And

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Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, at the sort of combination of these

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Speaker 1: things has led a lot of figures on the right.

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Speaker 1: You'll see it in that thread. I think Rubbert shared

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Speaker 1: it and I shared it of like these dozens of

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Speaker 1: tiktoks talking about civil war that came out the day

622
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Speaker 1: after Trump with raided. They talk a lot about I R.

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Speaker 1: S raids and about people coming for their for their

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Speaker 1: guns and their short barreled rifles specifically, which I think

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Speaker 1: is the combination of these things leading to this sort

626
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: of again, like it's if you misunderstand each of those

627
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Speaker 1: three things completely, you get to the conclusion that the

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Speaker 1: the I R S has hired eighty seven thousand arms

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Speaker 1: shock troops and they're coming after a R pistol, which

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00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: it's not true, but that narrative has definitely been sort

631
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: of spread around. And again it's not exactly decreasing the temperature, no,

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Speaker 1: I mean just I think today Trump was on Fox

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Speaker 1: News Digital and he said, people are so angry at

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00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: what's taking place. Whatever we can do to help, because

635
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: the temperature has to be brought down in the country.

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00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: If it isn't, terrible things are going to happen. The

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00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: people of this the people of this country are not

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00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: going to stand for another scam. So huh. I wonder

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00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: what he meant by that. Oh boy, Yeah, yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 1: Like the other thing that I mean we've kind of

641
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: touched on, but I think is an important to understand

642
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: is the extent to which like Trump is kind of

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Speaker 1: a singular figure in his ability to actually get a

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Speaker 1: bunch of people to do a thing. And like I

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Speaker 1: think that like that that power I think is reduced sense,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, he's like he's not president anymore, right,

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Speaker 1: because it's reduced since six, Yeah, since six, But like,

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Speaker 1: you know, he still has the ability to mobilize, like

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Speaker 1: ability to mobilize parts of the right that like you're

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Speaker 1: sort of like weird neo Nazi guy like can't and

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Speaker 1: he like you know, and like he he seems to

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Speaker 1: be aware of this, and he seems to be aware that,

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Speaker 1: like you know, he can use he uses as a

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Speaker 1: bargaining chip or uses to sort of like threaten people.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, like that that's a real thing. Like it

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Speaker 1: is a real thing that there's an incredibly large part

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Speaker 1: of the country who like if Donald Trump told them

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Speaker 1: to like go die for him on normany beach or

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Speaker 1: something like, they probably would, yea. Yeah, the FBI and

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Speaker 1: DHS and their member also warrant that midterm elections in

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Speaker 1: November could be seen as an additional flashpoint in which

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Speaker 1: will continue to escalate threats against perceived ideological opponents, including

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Speaker 1: federal lawenforce and personnel. So stay tuned. Yeah, it should

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Speaker 1: if people I haven't realized. By the way, it was

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Speaker 1: bright Bot who named the FBI agents obtained the warrant. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: didn't bother to google what their jobs were. They were like,

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Speaker 1: what is what is the sacronym stand for? No one knows.

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Speaker 1: It's very secret pop journalism there. Yeah, well good, we

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Speaker 1: seem to be in a nice place then, mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: It's going well yeah, yeah, start organizing now. The best

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Speaker 1: time to start this was yesterday. The second best time

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Speaker 1: is now, the third best time is tomorrow. And don't

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Speaker 1: don't let them take how funny this is as well funny.

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Speaker 1: There is another lessons here, which is that like, there

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Speaker 1: is an enormous amount you can get away with politically

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Speaker 1: as long as it's funny, and like, frankly we we

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Speaker 1: we have we have not been utilizing that towards the

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Speaker 1: potential the left end, like anarchists in general, have forgotten

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Speaker 1: how to do good funny ship for the past ten years,

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Speaker 1: and we have to bring it back. Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: This is We've been given a precious gift and how

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Speaker 1: funny this is. And we have a couple of responsibilities,

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Speaker 1: and one of them, of course, is to organize in

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Speaker 1: order to be prepared to counter increasing like attempts to

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Speaker 1: impose an authoritarian violence on us. But another thing that

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Speaker 1: it is response that we have a responsibility to do

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Speaker 1: is laugh at how funny this is and make sure

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Speaker 1: that other people don't forget how funny this is. So

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Speaker 1: go out into the world and remind somebody that a

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Speaker 1: fucking trump nerd tried to take on the FBI with

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Speaker 1: a nail gun in an a R fifteen and died

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Speaker 1: in a fucking field in Ohio. Because that's pretty funny.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty funny. It could happen here as a production

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