1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: All right, we're back with another episode of Big Blue 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Kickoff Live right here on Giants dot Com. Schmelk Meadow 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: you to a one four five one three. I'm about 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: over my cold. I think Lance is still in the 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: middle of his it's slowly coming around, yes, but we'll 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: be with you and we're I'm gonna do a full 7 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: throated Cowboys Giants preview today because you have the same 8 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: duo on Monday prior to the game, since you're apology, well, 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: I guess exactly. Well, Vicky Spagnolo from Dallas Cowboys dot 10 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: Com will join us on Monday, so we'll kind of 11 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: talk around Giants issues here today and we'll do a 12 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: little bit on the game obviously. Two but first one 13 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: to remind you that Big Blue Kickoff Live is presented 14 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: by Corps Light entered to win the Ultimate v I 15 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: P Game Day Experience courtesy of Course Light Text v 16 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: I P to nine oh four six four four more details. 17 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: I have not been on since the Leonard Williams trade 18 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: has been finalized. I don't think Lance has either. We 19 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: talked about it briefly, and you could talk about free 20 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: agent after the year. The value gave up for that. 21 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: That's a separate conversation. But let's just talk about the 22 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: player first in general lance and I will just talk 23 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: what about this with Bob Papa And honestly, is Leonard 24 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: Williams now the best defensive player on the Giants? Well, 25 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: you could argue in terms of track record, he probably is. 26 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: I mean jack Rabbit, jack Rabbit. In terms of the 27 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: second there, I guess I was thinking more of the 28 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: front seven, well slash defensive line. I think that's easy. 29 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: I think that answers the most proven commodity. I'm talking 30 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: entire defense. If you take it the consideration the entire defense, 31 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: I'd probably give the edge to generalist Jenkins. Also, I mean, 32 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: keep in mind the guy like Antoine, but Faye has 33 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: been in the league a lot longer than him. Experience 34 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: doesn't mean better, No experience does it. But I'd give 35 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: that a slight amount of credit given the fact that 36 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: you've been exposed to a variety of different offenses compared 37 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: to some of these other players. If you're picking players 38 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: for this defense one through eleven, and no, I'm not 39 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: saying that you would rank them ahead, but I think 40 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: at this stage, let's also not forget Leonard Williams has 41 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: only been in the league since two thousand fifteen, which 42 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: when perspective you know, some other guys, I would say that, 43 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, that's still relatively don't I don't think that's 44 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: a very big sample size. I wouldn't calculate that as 45 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: a huge thing. But yeah, I would definitely put him 46 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: in the top three in terms of most polished, most 47 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 1: experienced players. I don't think that's crazy at all. Yeah, 48 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: And I think it'll be interesting to see how they 49 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: balance the snaps. And this is my whole thing between Williams, Lawrence, Tomlinson, 50 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: and Hill, because all three guys will kind of rotate 51 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: in those three interior defensive lineman spots in your base 52 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: three four. So on your sub package, if you have 53 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: two interior alignment on the field with two edge rushers, 54 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: when you're in that nickel or dime, they're gonna be 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: rotating for two spots. Now we've seen Leonard Williams with 56 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: the Jets lineup a defensive end. Well, the Giants do 57 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: that when they go to sub package. You don't see 58 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: many three five pound defensive ends running a running around. 59 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: You just don't. So I think it'll be interesting to 60 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: see how they split those snaps up because they really 61 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: did add a player at a position that was already 62 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: a position of strength for them. Well, it's a good 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: thing to be in in terms of the position of 64 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: being able to rotate players, so you know, whoever has 65 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: to sacrifice snaps, I don't think it's necessarily harmful in 66 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: the long run. If anything, guys will be fresher in 67 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. And I think you could very well 68 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: see him on the edge a few times. I don't 69 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a regular basis, But could James 70 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: Betcher look at how other teams have utilized him, how 71 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: other coordinators have utilized him. I don't think that's crazy 72 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: at all. Remember keep in mind, Leonard Williams played under 73 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, who taught James Betcher Todd Bowles in Arizona. 74 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: There's a triangle here between all three of these pieces. 75 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: It would not surprise me, and I'm sure James Betcher 76 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: has probably been having some conversations with Leonard Williams going 77 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: back to his Jets stays saying, hey, you know, how 78 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: did Todd utilize you? What worked, Where were you comfortable, 79 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: Where did you think you had the most success? And 80 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: then I'm sure they'll adopt some of those principles. So 81 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, you can't overlook the history of the player 82 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: who has been can acted to somebody that has worked 83 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 1: with James Better. I think that's a very interesting aspect. 84 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: And the other thing to keep in mind with Lendon Williams, 85 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: and he brought this up when he spoke to the 86 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: media a few days ago, this just goes to show 87 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: you stats alone don't tell the whole story about a player. 88 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Leonard Williams could have had about 89 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: fifteen more sacks over the course of his career, but 90 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: I think he did bring up a fair point. He's 91 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: getting consistent pressure this season. He's just not getting home 92 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: necessarily for the sack. And sometimes that's a result of 93 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: the quarterback getting rid of the football, it's a result 94 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: of a penalty that may have been picked up that 95 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: negated the sack. You know, the pressures have been there, 96 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: which to me is extremely encouraging. It's the same thing 97 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: if a quarterback is not aggressive versus too aggressive, you 98 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: could determine right. If it's quarterback too aggressive, you can 99 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: at least hone him in as opposed to a quarterback 100 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: that likes to shy away from pressure. It's very difficult 101 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: to teach that. I look at Leonard Williams the same way. 102 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: The pressure is there now, it's just a matter of 103 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: finding ways to open things up for him to consistently finish. Yeah, 104 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: to get there quicker or at a fourth quarterback to 105 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: hold the ball. And I think that's kind of been 106 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: a theme for most of his career. Yeah, and racked 107 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: up a lot of sack number seventeen sacks and four 108 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: and a half seasons. It's not overwhelming, but if you 109 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: look at the Profoboth focused stats for hurries and quarterback hits, 110 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: tackles for loss in the run game, he's in the 111 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: upper echelon of interior defensive lineman. So is he you know, 112 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald or Fletcher Cox or Gino Atkins. No, he's 113 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: not at that level, but he's on that level right 114 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: below those guys simply because he doesn't get home quite 115 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: as much as the other guys in that group. But 116 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: all the defense and make them better as they go 117 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: on and take a Cowboys offense and lance. This is 118 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: kind of what I'm not sure if it posted yet, 119 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: but I'll post at some point. Questions for the Giants 120 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: in the second half of the year, and really it's 121 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: getting down to the point here where unless this Giants 122 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: defense cleans up their act, none of this other stuff 123 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: is gonna matter. And really you narrow it down to 124 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: two really simple problems, third down past defense and big place. 125 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: They cannot get teams off the field on third down 126 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: and they allowed too many big plays. And so those 127 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: two things get fixed. For this Giants team, nothing is 128 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: going to change in terms of winning football games because 129 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: they're facing an offense on Monday that is literally tops 130 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: in the league in yards per game, tops in the 131 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: league and yards per play. I think their third or 132 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: fourth in passing, third or fourth and rush. They do 133 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: everything well like a good offensive one, like a good 134 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: wide receivers, got a good running back. Dak Prescott leads 135 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: the NFL in ESPN s QBR rating. He's having the 136 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: best year of his career. Looks like a top ten 137 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: level quarterback. They are really really good offensively, and we 138 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: saw with the Lions that to this defense last week, 139 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna be worse. Well, as you mentioned, they are 140 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: a top five unit in just about every important statistical 141 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: category on the offensives out of the ball plus, all 142 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: you need to do is go look back at week one. 143 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: Now you want to tell me, well, there wasn't a 144 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: lot of film on either team. The bottom line is, 145 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys proved that they have a plethora 146 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: of weapons to your point, and Dak Prescott does not 147 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: mind spreading the wealth. And oh keep in mind Zeke 148 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: coming into week one was remember coming off that lengthy holdout. 149 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: Not to say that that's an excuse they didn't really 150 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: need him because they had so much success through the air. 151 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: But now you're seeing Ezekiel Elliott, who is far more 152 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: into the season than he was back in week one. 153 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: I think he's much more comfortable and I think it's 154 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: almost like the equivalenc ee now of him going through 155 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: a training camp. So you have to take that into consideration. Yeah, 156 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: until the defense cleans up the big explosive plays. James 157 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: Betcher spoke to the media today and the one thing 158 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: he said he wasn't on it wasn't very happy about 159 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: was obviously the explosive plays because it becomes a continuous theme. 160 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: And to your point, it also showed up against in Detroit. 161 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: You had to forty plus yard touchdowns by the Lions. 162 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: One by Marvin Hall another one by Kenny Gollat. Yes, 163 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: I understand there was a trick playing one of them, 164 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: but the bottom line is an explosive plays an explosive play, 165 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: It makes no difference. Now, did the Giants do a 166 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: pretty good job against the Lions rushing attack. Yes, I 167 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: don't think the Lions run game was anything to go 168 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: crazy about, but you could argue they didn't need it 169 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: because they were so successful through the airs. So it 170 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: goes back to now you're going up against the Cowboys 171 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: team that is far more effective on the ground than 172 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: the Lions work has been explosive through the air. Well, 173 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: where is Dallas going to try to attack the Giants 174 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: right now? They could pick whichever poison they choose to do. 175 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: So it's up to the Giants to start dictating the tone. 176 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: And it was interesting because you watch the Niners Cardinals 177 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: game last night on Thursday Night Football, and the biggest 178 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: difference in that game was the inability for Arizona john 179 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: to get off the field on third down. The Niners 180 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: were eleven of seventeen on third down last night, and 181 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: watching that game, it was bringing back some flashes and 182 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: glances of what the Giants have struggled with this season, 183 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: which is what getting off the field on third down, 184 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: preventing lengthy drives by the opposition, and also preventing explosive plays. 185 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, they absolutely have to clean that up and 186 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: it's not gonna get any easier. Role. So I would 187 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: argue in the second half of the season in terms 188 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,599 Speaker 1: of some of the upcoming opponents, you're gonna get a 189 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: Green Bay team that's been very explosive. I would not 190 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: sleep on Philadelphia, even though they've had some ups and downs. 191 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: Deshan Jackson is now going to return, so that gives 192 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: them another explosive weapons. So you know, don't tell me that, oh, 193 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: there's gonna be the lay up opportunity in the schedule 194 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: for the Giants to focus on cleaning up their issues. 195 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: They gotta start cleaning up their issues again. Some of 196 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: the best offenses in the NFL, and then offensively the 197 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: other thing that has to get cleaned up if things 198 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: are going to change, or the turnovers. I mean, you 199 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: can't simply be minus nine through eight games in the 200 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: turnover ratio and expect to be any good. It's not 201 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: the way the league works. They've been minus two or worse. 202 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: I believe in five of their eight games they've been 203 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: even in the turnover battle only once. I mean, let's 204 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: it's just been really, really poor. And this is a 205 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: cowboy defense that only has nine takeaways this year. They 206 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: have not taken the ball away, so they haven't gotten 207 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: the type of pressure you would think they would get 208 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: on the quarterback given you know, Rob Quinn, DeMarcus Largo, 209 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: Lee cons down, Michael Bennett's there too. They blitz a 210 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: decent amount of the time. So the offense must protect 211 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: the ball. A punt is okay. If you start giving 212 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: up is in teams, short fields or defensive scores. When 213 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: your defense is struggling the way it is, you're never 214 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to win these games. Well, and 215 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: then also what makes matters worse, and we talked about 216 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: this a lot on Monday when we're recapping the Lions game. 217 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: Not only did it give the ball away and then 218 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: the opposition cashes that in for points, which has been 219 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: also an absolute killer. Because the Giants only had one 220 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: turnover in their last game against the Lions, but Devon 221 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: Kennard returned it for a touchdown, So you can tell 222 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: me are one is not terrible. Well, one is bad 223 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: if you give up seven points as a result of it. 224 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: And that was the only game where they won the 225 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: tour of our ratio all year, by the way, correct, 226 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: But they still lost the game though, which is just 227 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: the type of story has been for the Giants. And 228 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: here's the other thing. You were pointing out that they 229 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: were even a turnover differential twice this season. Okay, but 230 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: one of those two games, they still turned the ball 231 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: over four times, and that was against the Redskins. And 232 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: also the Redskins turned the ball over four times, but 233 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: they also threw in a rookie quarterback for the first 234 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: time this season. So more often than not they've been 235 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,599 Speaker 1: in the negative, and more often than not, the opposition 236 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: has turned those takeaways into points, which has to be 237 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: limited moving forward. Here, mine is two in a week one, 238 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: minus two in Week two, minus two against the Cardinals, 239 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: minus two against the Patriots, and the Patriots scoring on 240 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: special teams and defense, and the special teams doesn't even 241 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: count as a turnover, even though you should consider it 242 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: the block punt, it's equivalent to a turn over there. 243 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: So you know, that's another thing connected to some of 244 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: the numbers you just threw out here hard to win 245 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: when you're minus nine, which is tied for twenty eight 246 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: right now in the National Football League, and you have 247 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: the most giveaways in the National Football League at nineteen. 248 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: You look at the top of the league right now 249 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: and turnover differential and the bottom of league. I actually 250 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: had this exact conversation this morning on Sirius x M 251 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: NFL Radio. Look at the teams. All the teams at 252 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: the top are in playoff contention. The teams at the 253 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: bottom are on the complete opposite end of the spectrum. 254 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: You've got the Dolphins, you have the Bengals, you have 255 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: the Browns, you have the Giants at the bottom. At 256 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: the top, you have the Patriots, you have the Packers, 257 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: you have the Seahawks. It's no surprise that that's not 258 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: a coincidence. I would argue takeaways and turn over differential 259 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: as a flukey stat from year to year. Don't tell me, well, 260 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: you were opportunistic one year, so it's automatically gonna translate 261 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: over case in point to Chicago Bears, I think of 262 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: the perfect example. They were unreal last season and now 263 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: you see, oh, you're not taking the way the football 264 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: is often you're not scoring as many touchdowns. Now you 265 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: put more stress on your offense. But within the year, 266 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: it's not flukey as long as you continue to be opportunistic. 267 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: But one year to the other, we've seen it, even 268 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: with the Giants. One year they're really solid and the 269 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: next year, all of a sudden, it goes back to 270 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: the negative. The Cowboys I remember a few years ago. 271 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: One year they were up there with the Texans, and 272 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: then the following year they were completely on the opposite 273 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: end at the bottom of the league. It fluctuates. You 274 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: cannot hang your hat on that statistic, no question about it. 275 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: So that's where the Giants are right now, folks. To me, 276 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: those are the big things that are affecting both sides 277 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: of the ball that are resulting in wins and losses. 278 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: Of course, long term as the progress of Daniel Jones, 279 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: which part of that is turnovers and takeaways. Right now, 280 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: he's just a very highly valid out passer. You see 281 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: some really good, great players, you're like, boy, Scott, he 282 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: could be great. Then you see some players like a 283 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: boy what he because this guy thinking, so he just 284 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: needs the lands do more the good stuff and do 285 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: less of the bad stuff. I know. That's a real 286 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: simple way to put it. But when you're looking at 287 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: the guy that's been at two very big extremes of 288 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: the ledger here in terms of what the good stuff 289 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: is and what the bad stuff is, you just need 290 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: to balance that more in favor of good than bad. 291 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: It's about consistency, and you can really say that, John, 292 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: about any young quarterback. I think the encouraging part of 293 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: what Daniel Jones is going through right now is invaluable experience. 294 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that, whether or not the 295 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: results have been positive all the time, you can't duplicate 296 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: what he's getting out of being out on the field 297 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: in year one. Now, if he sat, I still think 298 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: it would have helped him. I don't think it would 299 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: have hurt his development. But all this has done is 300 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: now accelerated the process, John. So he's going through some 301 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: of the struggles. He's understanding how defenses throw a different 302 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: rent your way every single week, and he's going through 303 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: that and and that I think is going to help 304 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: him in the long run. I never think a quarterback 305 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: or any player goes into a game. This is why 306 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: I find it quite comical when individuals say, well, you know, 307 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: he's got to do a better job of holding onto 308 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: the football, as if Daniel Jones goes into the game 309 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: every week saying, I hope I lose control of the 310 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: football three to four times and the opposition takes control 311 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: of it, and nobody's ever going into a game thinking well, yeah, 312 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: but then also you do have to physically execute it better. 313 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: But in his defense, as Pat Shermer pointed out, it's 314 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: hard to sit here and fault him for losing the 315 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: football on the one turnover against the Lions. That was 316 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: like he was hit under those circumstances he was trying 317 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: to get rid of the football. Say Quan, as he admitted, 318 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: could have made a much better job in terms, done 319 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: a better job excuse me of going after the football. 320 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: You know those are gonna be some circumstances gonna play out. 321 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: It's happen to Elon Manning too. You know Eli Manning 322 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: goes back to throw the football in his career, he 323 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: gets hit, Hey, the ball pops out. It's very hard. 324 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: What my argument is to do things to prevent that, 325 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: the things such as guy coming at you, John, make 326 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: sure you get two hands on the football and race 327 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: to hit so you don't cough it up or hold 328 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: the ball too long? Correct, No, And those are things 329 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: absolutely that you can look to improve and technique can 330 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: help you get in that direction that I have no 331 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: argument with. All right, let's get to the phone to 332 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: two one four or five one three. It's all brought 333 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: to you by Corps Light entered when the Ultimate v 334 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: I P Game Day Experience courtesy of course Light text 335 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: v I P to nine oh four six four four 336 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: more details. Let's lead it off with Ralph in New Jersey. 337 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: He's up first. What's up, Ralph? What's going on? John LANs, 338 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: what's up? What's happening? Not that much. I just gonna 339 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: have a couple of a couple of thoughts and a 340 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: question for you guys about lender Williams. I'll keep hearing 341 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: a lot of negativity or whatnot. My whole thing is, 342 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: I don't understand how because bringing them in is it's 343 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: actually gonna help us. There is no way that's gonna 344 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: be a negative. It's not going to create any negativity 345 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: for us. Is only going to create upside for us. 346 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: So I don't see what's what's the complaints about? Which 347 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: is a good thing for us? I don't think the 348 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: complaints are about how he helps the current team be better. 349 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: I think the complaints people have had is that, well, 350 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: you're already two in six, just way to the offseason, 351 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: you can sign him as a free agent and not 352 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: trade a draft pick at all. I think that's for 353 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: further complaints that I've heard, that's been the primary one, 354 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: right right, right, Yeah, I get that, But I also think, 355 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: like a guy that was drafted six oh or you 356 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: would think giving up a third third round pick for him, 357 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: I think that's pretty fair, you know, based off of 358 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: his production or or not so far. But anyway, well, 359 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: you also gave up another draft pick in Fairty's it 360 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: wasn't just a third round pick, it's a fifth, which 361 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: could become a fourth, so that you really have to 362 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: look at it. His two draft picks, not one. Okay, yeah, 363 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, but anyway, My other point was about 364 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: Sam Bill always looking, do you guys have any info? 365 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: Is he gonna start like what's his snap count? Gonna 366 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: be like, well, I'm not he doesn't have to be 367 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: activated for this game. They until next Wednesday to decide 368 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: whether or not they're going to activate them. I do 369 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: not believe they would bench either Genores Jenkins or DeAndre 370 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: Baker for Sam Beale. Unfortunate. The late media is not 371 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: a lot of acting that includes us in house. Media 372 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: is not a lot of access to practice during the 373 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: regular season, so we really don't know how he's looking 374 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: in practice. You know, he has been practicing, and uh, 375 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: he's advancing, he's getting better according to the coaches and 376 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: Pat Shermer. But you know when he's gonna get activated, 377 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: and then when he does, how much he's gonna play 378 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: and how good he's gonna look. We're in the same situation, 379 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: you guys are. We just gotta wait and see. Okay, okay, 380 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: And my last point I was trying to make because 381 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: I spoke to Paul yesterday about this and the point 382 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: was that we might use more of a four three 383 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: look against the Cowboys this week. My question was, I'm 384 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: not sure if that's affecting that, But my question was, 385 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: how hard is it to judge? I know, we used 386 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: like a hybrid, you know system anyway, but how hard 387 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: is it to just from three or four or two 388 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: four three? Is it that easy? Is it hard like 389 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: within the game or before the game? I don't, I don't. 390 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: I don't agree with that analysis. So I don't. I 391 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: just don't see it. I don't think a team from 392 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: game the game is going to adjust what their base 393 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: defense looks like. That doesn't happen. That was Paul Steak. 394 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: You think we're gonna use heavy for three, So I disagree, Okay, 395 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: no problem, Ralph, thank you. I mean, what does he 396 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: think he's gonna put play four down lineman with Leonard 397 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: Williams at the end. Is that what he thinks is 398 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: gonna happen. I guess that perhaps is one of his 399 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: thoughts heading in. I don't know. I didn't hear the comments, 400 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: so it's hard to respond to it. But that would 401 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: be my guests that perhaps the acquisition of Leonard Williams. 402 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: Keep this in mind though, you know, putting that aside 403 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: by the way, talking to Leonard Williams, because he likes 404 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: to play three technique, that's his preferred position, which is 405 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: defensive tax, which he mentioned even when he spoke to 406 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: the media too. Here's the other thing though, that should 407 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: not be overlooked. Dawn Buchanan, who had familiarity with better 408 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: system John. Remember we were talking about this Monday. He 409 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: only played eleven place. Now, I'm not saying that Leonard 410 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: Williams can't be on the field a lot this weekend, 411 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: but are we guaranteed to see him for a full 412 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: allotment of plays? Who's to say that he's gonna play 413 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: much more than Buchanan were as much as we can. 414 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: I don't know, a little bit easier on the defensive line. 415 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: And like you, you mentioned earlier Todd Bowles Betcher similar system. 416 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: So I would say we'd probably see him for about 417 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: the snaps. I mean that I would say that that's 418 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: perhaps a little bit on the high side entering his 419 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: first game. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I mean, 420 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm just looking once again, Buchan and I would argue 421 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: the same thing. He knew Betcher's system. Things have changed 422 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: a little bit since they last Cross Pass and Average 423 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: is a better player, And once again that's a fair 424 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: claim too. I just I'm just gonna be very curious 425 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: to see how much he plays. So the reason I 426 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: bring that up I go back to if Paul's point 427 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: was Leonard williams arrival gives better a reason to have 428 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: an extra defensive lineman down. Who's to guarantee that he's 429 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna be out there for as many plays? That's the 430 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: only thing that I'm throwing out to ignite such a 431 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: drastic change up front in terms of the Giants alignment. 432 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I just can't believe you're doing a big 433 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: thing like that in one week, or or simply just 434 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: because of the acquisition of one player too. I mean, 435 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: I I assume it's also I mean, this is he 436 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: kind of may remember the point he made before the 437 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: Viking game. He wanted to play, you know, six defensive 438 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: linemen into whatever you wanted to do, and you know, 439 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: the Vikings proceeded to throw for like eight hundred yards 440 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: in the first half of that game. But um, yeah, 441 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I get where Paul's coming from. You 442 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: want to stop Ezekiel. Yet I a hundred percent behind that. 443 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: And if you put Leonard Williams in and they're gonna 444 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: help you do that, absolutely no question. There is logic 445 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: behind it. It It makes sense. But I just it's not 446 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: something you see teams do, you know, for one game, 447 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: unless you're the Patriots and and and your Bill Belichick, 448 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: you don't see teams making those sorts of huge swings 449 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: in one week. Maybe I'll be wrong, maybe Paul will 450 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: be right, but I don't see it Yeah, where they 451 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: get completely out of character and start, you know, giving 452 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: you new alignments and new setups that they haven't really 453 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: relied on, at least in terms of the base defense. Granted, 454 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, bet youer on different downs is going to 455 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: you know, move personnel around, but the core, the core 456 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: is still a three four, you know, and they were 457 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: relying on their linebackers to be those drushers to get 458 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: after the quarterback, not necessarily all of a sudden guys 459 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: transforming into defensive ends. So that would be a surprise, 460 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: and you would really then change the responsibilities of your 461 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: edge linebackers. Then, you know, would would Marcus Golden be 462 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: a down lineman in a four three then, I mean, 463 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: Lorenzo Carter has played off the ball before. I guess 464 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: that would be a natural fit. But then Golden is 465 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: going to be one of your ends. Then who's gonna 466 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: be a our outside linebacker? Zimonez? And then you want 467 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: him in space running around in coverage? Is a fourth 468 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: three outside linebacker? I don't know if you want that? Yeah, well, 469 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: because now you're gonna have also one less linebacker in 470 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. And then when it comes 471 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: to stopping the run, or sealing the edge. Guys who 472 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: maybe are used to playing in the interior, John too 473 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: could be asked to go outside. So I think it 474 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: would force you to put a lot of players in 475 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: new roles on a very quick turnaround. And I don't 476 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: know necessarily if that's the wisest game play. But listen, 477 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: curveballs do come your way in the National Football League. 478 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't necessarily say it would be impossible for 479 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: it to happen, but be very surprising if that did 480 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: play out that way against Dallas. Let's go with Phil 481 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: in North Carolina. He's up next. Hey Phil, line three. 482 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: What's going on? Phil? How are you alright? Good? Um? 483 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: Let me get you off speaker. I appreciate that, Phil, 484 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. How kind of you know. I'm 485 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: not gonna talk up Yeah, I'm not gonna talk about 486 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: my uh my favorite uh thing, which is positional value. 487 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: I'll save that for us because he really loves When 488 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: I talked to him about that, I said, sarcasms. Ye, 489 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: plus we agree more than the other guy. I do 490 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: with the other guys. But um, I'm gonna talk about 491 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: the center position, and I really think it's it's suffering 492 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: from assignments and lack of awareness, and I think it's 493 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: time to put Spencer Pulley and I wanted to know 494 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: your answer or thoughts on that. Can you give an 495 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: example of where you think we've seen that well? This 496 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: year seems like an awful lot of free runs that 497 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback inside, particularly inside well, I can tell you 498 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: if I can tell you if you're specifically referencing the 499 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: play where Jones got sacked through the backwards past last 500 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: week and no one blocked Jared Davis. That was, say 501 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: Kawan Barkley's responsibility. He said it after the game and 502 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: that was his fault. That was his man, and he 503 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 1: vacated before he saw if he was blitzing or not, 504 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: and that was on him. That's not on John Hawippel, Okay, 505 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: but it wasn't hasn't never been other times. So when 506 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: we've had free runners that inside, I honestly think we've 507 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: had a lot fewer free runners this year than we 508 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: had last year. To be quite honest with you, Okay, okay, bro, 509 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm being too critical of PEO because I do 510 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: like Spencer Polly. I feel like he's uh more knowledgeable 511 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: about the game, but that maybe you know I may 512 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: be off on that, so but but that was the 513 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: main thing on Litor and the other thing I wish, 514 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: uh that I was a little concerned about is uh 515 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: we got rid of goods and and I think he's 516 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: he was a good run stopper. And uh last week 517 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: I noticed are two interior linebackers kind of over pursuing 518 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: and that plug in the hole. And so I wanted to, 519 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: you know, get your thoughts on you know, not having 520 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: goods and potentially hurting us. So I'll take it off 521 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: the end. Thanks that all right? Well, I mean, first 522 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: of all, I wanted to respond to, you know, Pully 523 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: having more experience, how appeal has been in the NFL 524 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: longer than Pully. He may not have as much accrude 525 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: seasons because he may keep being correct on a roster, 526 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: but I mean he's been around and he's been exposed 527 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: to football from a professional standpoint a little bit longer 528 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: than Spencer Pulley. So I don't buy the experience factor. 529 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: You know, there may have been that one play that 530 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: I think the cohlera was thinking back on the safety 531 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: against the Minnesota Vikings, John if you remember, and that 532 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: was the one play where they stuck between the guard 533 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: and the center. But outside of that, you know, I 534 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: don't remember a break down by Halapio that you know 535 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: was above and beyond you know what, maybe we've seen 536 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: across the NFL that was such an egregious breakdown. If anything, 537 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: I would argue, you know, I think maybe around the 538 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: edge you've seen some more breakdowns than necessarily up the gut, 539 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: as far as the departure of b J. Goodson and 540 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: then moving in the direction of some other personnel, that 541 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: that's the reason why the Giants defense has struggled. I 542 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: don't think it's as that simple. I think that you 543 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: have seen a lot of mis tackles over the course 544 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: of this season, and you'd have to prove to me 545 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: that if b J. Goodson was on the field, there'd 546 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: be no miss tackles, and I would say that that's 547 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: a very big assumption on your part. So I don't 548 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 1: think the loan moving on move from b J. Goodson 549 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: is the sole reason why the Giants are failing to 550 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: stop the run consistently. I think a lot of it, 551 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: once again is miss tackles across the board and sometimes 552 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: the inability to get home with the defensive front in 553 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: slowing down some of these running backs, because that's a 554 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: big part of when the Giants were effective and stopping 555 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: the run. In two thousand sixteen. You know, that was 556 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: the year you had Snacks and you had Olivier Vernon, 557 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: and those two guys were extremely active in helping the 558 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: Giants stop the run. So you can tell me all 559 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: you want about the linebacker play, I would say the 560 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: reason why they were so stingy against the run was 561 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: because how effective the guys up front, the defensive lineman 562 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: were active in helping to slow down the running game. 563 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't so much just the linebackers. I've seen a 564 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: lot of issues on the edges. To be honest with you, 565 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: I think the interior guys have been okay. I think 566 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: there have been some issues with the guys not sending 567 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: the edge properly. That's something Olivia Vernon and Jpp, by 568 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: the way, we're both a really good at when they 569 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: were playing their best football. And I think we've seen 570 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: oceans him and as get turned in a couple of 571 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: times on on that left edge. And you know, the 572 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: tackling coming off in the secondary and the linebacker position 573 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: has been suspected times this year so uh, to me, 574 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: those are the issues. The B J. Goodson's not fixing 575 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: problems here. I mean no, you're just not. Yeah, you 576 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: can't just pin it on one guy, two, one, four 577 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: or five on three. Let's go to Joe in Pennsylvania. 578 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: He's up next day, Joe. Hi, guys. Uh, yeah, this 579 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: game I'm looking at. If I'm the coaching staff, I'm 580 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: setting these guys down and and and you know what 581 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: Paul was saying. You know, maybe there's an argument that 582 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams is our best defensive player right off the bat. 583 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: Could you argue with that? I mean I said that 584 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: about Joe. Well, well, that's what I mean with them 585 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: defensive lineman, we have I put them four studs up 586 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: front and stop the run, and then our safeties and 587 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: linebackers and that keep the stuff in front of us, 588 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: make them earn it. Not these what what for defensive 589 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: linemen are you playing across the front? I ain't gonna 590 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: name them right off the bat there. Uh, let's well, 591 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna play decks. B. J. Hill, Tomlinson and Leonard Williams. 592 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: That's my guests. Pay them up there. That's against you 593 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: stop the run? Do you not want to get any set. 594 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: Let him go down the field. They beat us on 595 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: the past, but keep it in front of us. We've 596 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: been giving up. That's why Uncle Tree was so piste 597 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: off excuse me last week and called that meeting. You 598 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: know you you're missed assignments. This is halfway through the season. 599 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: Receivers are running free. Keep it in front of us. 600 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: If we have to play a simple zoner so and 601 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: make them earn it and get that tackle. If they 602 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: go eight plays, ten plays down the field, okay, make 603 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: him earn it. And then on offense they're the same thing. 604 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: Let's try to run the ball, not be putting us 605 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: ourselves and you know, getting sacked and with goofy penalties 606 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and then they're coming after us, 607 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: and you know it's stupid. That's what's killing us. So 608 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: let's let's play some discipline ball. That's the key, really 609 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: and truly, let's see if we can do that. We 610 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: haven't done that this year. So look, you're right, and 611 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: when the Giants have played their best defense this year, 612 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: they've played the way you've described it. I'm not agree 613 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: with playing four defensive tackles across the front. I don't 614 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: think that works. But I do agree with your point. 615 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: Where the Giants have their best shot this year is 616 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: when they prevent the big plays and simply keep things 617 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: in front of them and try to tackle one they 618 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: haven't tackled well like they should. But Joe, here's the 619 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: thing Betcher has called the defenses that call for that. 620 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I was talking with Carl Banks about this 621 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: on on our podcast earlier in the week, and the 622 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: defense they had called when Marvin Hall caught that forty 623 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: eight yard pass across the back end of the defense 624 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: was a four deep defense. It was literally designed to 625 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: stop the play that Marvin Hall caught for the touchdown. 626 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: It was literally designed to stop it. But like you said, 627 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: DeAndre Baker blows an assignment and it turns into a 628 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: big play. So you're right, you can't have them if 629 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: I give it to them two or three times in 630 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: a rug to try to get the first down instead 631 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: of going back and passing, and then they have us 632 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: in long situations and stuff like that, and they're coming 633 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: after us, and then Daniel Jones is losing the ball. 634 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: Let's play discipline and know our assignments. Lets me see 635 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: that one game. Will you please you know, thank you. 636 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: And all I want to ask is, there was a 637 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: player we cut earlier in the beginning of training camp 638 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: and he had some kind of criminal thing. I've seen 639 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: the charges were dropped against. Is there a chance he 640 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: may come back to us? There don't know, Joe, good question. 641 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that. Appreciate the call, 642 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: I think at this point of the season bringing him back. 643 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure you know how it's helping you. 644 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: Um to the Barkley point, Well, Barkley did not run 645 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: the ball well against Detroit. And again the team didn't 646 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: run the ball well. I'm not putting that on the 647 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: team the offensive wine, I have all the blockers, nineteen 648 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: rushes sixty something yards in the second half. I believe 649 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: he had nine rushes for eighteen yards in that game 650 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: or something ridiculous like that. They're just simply was not 651 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: a lot of room. They tried to run the ball, 652 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: it just wasn't there. And I gotta tell you, and 653 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: we'll talk more about this on Monday. I looked at 654 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: some of the breakdowns of Dallas is third down defense lanes. 655 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: Do you know they have not allowed a third down 656 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: and ten or more yards yet? This year, zero and 657 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: third downs of more than seven yards seven percent conversion 658 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: rate against them. So you better get it into third 659 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: and short because if you're a third and long and 660 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: it working, it's basically like the New England third down defense, 661 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: who the Giants already faced. New England's number one in 662 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: the NFL, and they are stopping teams that are ridiculous 663 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: rate eighty opportunities for opponents across the board, regardless of 664 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: what the down and distances, and teams have only converted 665 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: one times. That's twenty six percent. That's second in the NFL. 666 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's how effective the Dallas Cowboys have been. 667 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: So you're right, you know down in distance is going 668 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: to be important in this game. I don't think necessarily though, 669 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: to Joe's point, it's just give the ball to Barkley 670 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: and run the football because Barkley was effective as a 671 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: receiver against the Lions, John and dumping it off to 672 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: Barkley and you get four or five yards is an 673 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: extension of the run game. So nobody's saying you gotta 674 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: hand it off to Barkley. The point is you get 675 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: the ball in his hands, you get a positive play. 676 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: So that to your point, third down is not third 677 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: and nine instead, it's more like third and five. Yeah, 678 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: the Keys have success on first and second down, no 679 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: matter how you do it. If that's a screen pass, 680 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: a dump off, a little slant right out, look, the 681 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: capits wail a lot of his his own, So they're gonna 682 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: give up some stuff underneath. You have to be patient. 683 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: They don't take the ball away. Daniel Jones has to 684 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: protect the football. They have fast linebackers, and I'm surprised 685 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: their pass rush numbers overall aren't better. Quinn has been 686 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: great to Marcus Lawrence doesn't have the sacked numbers. He 687 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: is all the pressures and quarterback hits you would want. 688 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: Movie Cowns has had a good year of defensive tackle, 689 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: and now they had Michael Bennett. So this reminds me 690 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of the front you saw against Arizona 691 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: when you go in and the statistics don't wow you, 692 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: but then you look at the personnel and you're like, 693 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: oh boy, this could be a real problem. That's what 694 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: this reminds me of a little bit, because it's gonna 695 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: be real difficult for that Johnt's offensive line. Well, the 696 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: unit is also getting healthier too, because they're coming off 697 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: a buy, so you know, they've had some guys in 698 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: and out of the lineup over the last few weeks. 699 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: Antoine Woods is another defensive interior aligneman who had missed 700 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: a few games because he's been back in the mix, 701 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: and some of the guys in the secondary um, specifically 702 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. So you know, when you you take it 703 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: to consideration, a number of these guys that maybe why 704 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: maybe some of the numbers on the pressure situations haven't 705 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: necessarily added up over the course of this season. Though 706 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: Dallas I would argue even in some previous years their 707 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: sack totals haven't necessarily been impressive. It hasn't necessarily taken 708 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: away from their defensive unit overall being effective. But Arizona 709 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: is an interest in comparison to the Cowboys, where you know, 710 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: maybe you look at the numbers they've struggled. Patrick Peterson 711 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: returns their much better than they showcase so far on paper. 712 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,239 Speaker 1: He struggled yesterday, he did he had his roughest game. 713 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: Well he's certainly in the struggle against the Giants, I'll 714 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: tell you that. So you know, for people that claim 715 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: it's rust, well, how did he look good? Maybe over 716 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: the first two games that he returned, and all of 717 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: a sudden the third game. I just think sometimes you 718 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: go up against ATA personnel, it's a bad matchup, or 719 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: you're just not on the same page. And yet more 720 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: often than not, Patrick Peterson was playing from behind last night, 721 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: so that was a big surprising development from that front. 722 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: Scott in New Mexico is up next. He's online to Scott, 723 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: what's going on about? Hey, how's everything going? Guys? Good 724 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: Scott Lance, load up on the chicken soup. That's what 725 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: I've been doing throughout the week. I can assure you that, yes, 726 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: thank you. Though I listened to your analysis, and the 727 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: reason I like to calling you guys are on your 728 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: both spot on. I think on a number of points 729 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: that you make, but I tend to over simple size things. 730 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: I look at points scored and points allout have two 731 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: points actually, but points scored and points allout usually are 732 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: a good indicator of how your season is going. It 733 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: is and I took the first eight games of compared 734 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: to the season now in we allowed the opposition to 735 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: score two hundred and five points. We scored a hundred 736 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: and fifty. This year, we've allowed the opposition to score 737 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: two hundred eighteen points and we scored a hundred and 738 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: fifty eight. The percentile is virtually identical. So I'm asking 739 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: both of you if if you're seeing that kind of 740 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: from year to year, the same scenario developing, do you 741 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: make a case that the team's regressing instead of progressing 742 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 1: or there are too many other variables that come into 743 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 1: that formula that would indicate that this is not, uh, 744 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, a true variants because it's uncanny how close 745 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: you are to you know, what happened last year to 746 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: what happened this year over the first d eight games 747 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: thus far. Well, I would definitely say you're not if 748 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: the numbers are the same, right, So I think that 749 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: actually you are, because if you're if you're not doing 750 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: any better, you're actuality moving backwards the way I look 751 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: at it. So that's why, Well, that's not mathematically true 752 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: though you can you can be you can be static, 753 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: which means you're in the same general position. Right So, uh, no, 754 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: I don't think they're regressing. Has there been the progress 755 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: you wanted to see in the first half of this 756 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: year compared to the first half of last year? No, 757 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean there're two and six now you know, so 758 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: some of the games on the schedule have been tough. 759 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: I get that, but that's not an excuse um and 760 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: you would like to see more look going into the year. 761 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: That's how I look at him. My expectation was that 762 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: the defense was gonna be problematic, and that has proven 763 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: to be the case. And the offense you're gonna have 764 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: to carry you now. And unfortunately for the offense, I 765 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: think the offensive line has played just about where I 766 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,439 Speaker 1: thought would play. It's been okay but not great, which 767 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, kind of middle of the league, you know, 768 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: average type of thing, which is fine, that's what you wanted. Uh, 769 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: then you take a look at the other spots on 770 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. You've had a lot 771 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: of injuries. You would take suspension, you would shepherd out 772 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: Ingram missed the game, Barkley mystery or four games. I 773 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: think that's a big deal. If you have that group 774 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: fully healthy, you probably have another win in there. And 775 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: you have and you have a bunch of more points scored, 776 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: at least in my opinion. And then there's the point 777 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: that you went to the rookie quarterback, you know, say 778 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: what you want to say, what you wanted about Eli Man, 779 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: he was not going to have thirteen turnovers in six 780 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: games or whatever it was. He's not gonna do that now. 781 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones might do other things better, but man, he's 782 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: not gonna turn the ball over like that either. So 783 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: I think it is there are a lot of different 784 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: variables where it's hard to really, you know, put your 785 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: finger on it, because that's how football is and that's 786 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: why it's such a fun game. But I think it 787 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: is fair to say you haven't seen the progress you 788 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: would have liked to have seen, simply based on production, 789 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: the numbers and where the team is now compared to 790 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: where they were at the halfway point last year. I 791 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: think that's fair. Okay, Uh, my last point, and again 792 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: i'll take this off the air. Daniel Jones right now 793 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: has been sacked seven times. Uh actually yeah, seven times? 794 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: Um in one game. Well, he's been sacked more than that, Scott, 795 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make sure I got my statistic right. 796 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: But actually he's been sacked in seven games twenty one times. 797 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that sounds which average is out about three 798 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: sacks the game. That's not what really disturbs me. What 799 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: disturbs me is the amount of yardage they've lost, which 800 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: is a hundred and fifty eight yards in total, which 801 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: average is out to about eight yards per sack. Now, 802 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: if you're starting I'll make it analogous to what I do. 803 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: I do target shooting out here in New Mexico, so 804 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm using handguns at a certain distance and I you know, exponentially, 805 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: it gets harder if you get further away from your targets. 806 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: So if you're acquating it to a first down and 807 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: you're starting out eight yards behind the eight bol so 808 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: to speak, Holm Blazes, can you correct that and have 809 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: the offensive line or wherever is doing the assignments not 810 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,760 Speaker 1: have that variable into your thing because your using losing 811 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: that much yardage. Then if it's first in eighteen or 812 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: second in the eighteen, you know, as I'm explaining, it 813 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: gets harder and harder to get to the first downs, 814 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: which you really need to have. So I was wondering 815 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: if you think these these situations are correctable because the 816 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: amount of yard and was quite substantial. And so that 817 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: was my point and I'll glad to take your answers 818 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: off the artist. Thanks, yes, thanks for weighing in. Daniel 819 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,240 Speaker 1: Jones is the type of quarterback that likes to extend plays. 820 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: So I think part of it goes back to the 821 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: decision making John, that you and I were talking about. 822 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,959 Speaker 1: When you hold on to the football a little too long, 823 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: you're exposing yourself to more hits. When you roll out 824 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: of the pocket and then you're running backwards, you're trying 825 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: to allow the personnel down the field to get open. 826 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: So one way to correct that is just throw away 827 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: the football live to see another day, give up on 828 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: the play, which is what we see Kyler Murray do. 829 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: He'll just go down. Even though last night was not 830 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: very a good demonstration of that. He actually lost more 831 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: yardage than I think he could have avoided in the 832 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: long run on some of his sacks. But that, to 833 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: me would be one way to counter and not lose 834 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: as much yardage. But you know, remember it's not just 835 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: the sacks. There were times where John, I think it 836 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: was the last game before the Lions against the Cardinals 837 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: scene when bards twice and you know, and and that 838 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 1: to me is basically right, the equivalency of a sack 839 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: shortest right, he's running backwards, Hey, you know what, just 840 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: go down. And he admitted after the game that he 841 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: went back into some old college It's correct exactly. He 842 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: hit it right on the nose, and we saw that 843 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: in college. We talked about it leading up to the draft. 844 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: So to me, it's not just the quarterback of the sacks. 845 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: I think it's the running game and everybody being a 846 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: little bit more well disciplined and understanding field position and 847 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: when to just give up on a play and move 848 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: towards the progress of the next play. Yeah, I agree. 849 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,760 Speaker 1: And it's not holding the ball as much. It's it's 850 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: making quick, fast decisions and getting the ball out and 851 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: sometimes that means you are missing an opportunity down the field. 852 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: But in the long run, that's what you have to do. 853 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Tom Brady and Drew Brees the necessarily maximize 854 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: big plays down the field. They do maximize limiting negative places, 855 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 1: whether it's turnovers or sacks and things like that, which 856 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: is why when people continuously wanted to, you know, kill 857 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: the lineman and call him Mr. Checkdown. Well, there's a 858 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: reason he's doing that sort of stuff. Not that it 859 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 1: was right in every situation and he couldn't have been 860 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: more aggressive, But there is a balance you have to 861 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: strike between being ultra aggressive to the point where it 862 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: turns into too many negative plays for your team that 863 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,280 Speaker 1: prevents you from winning two being too conservative and there's 864 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: there's a nice window in there where you're supposed to 865 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: be And it might take Daniel Jones the rest of 866 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 1: the year, maybe even another year, to find that zone. 867 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: Some guys never find his zone. Jamis Winston still can't 868 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: find that zone. He's he can't. That's just the way 869 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: he is. Heck, when Eli was at his best, he 870 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 1: probably aired on the side of being too aggressive. Sometimes 871 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: he wants super bowls doing that. Though, you'd rather have 872 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 1: a guy that's too aggressive than then a guy that's 873 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: just gonna be you know, pre Chiefs Alex Smith, where 874 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: he's starting a bunch of four yard passes and he's 875 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: never putting the ball down the field. I'll take the 876 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,760 Speaker 1: more aggressive guy. But you can't have more than two 877 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: if you're a quarterback. You cannot be responsible on average 878 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,240 Speaker 1: from more than two turnovers the game. You just can't. 879 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: The other thing I would point out, and this goes 880 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: back to the idea of complimentary football. When Eli was, 881 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, winning those Super Bowls. I think also he 882 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: had the luxury of a defense that was not struggling 883 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: as much as this current defensive unit is, or I 884 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 1: should say, over the last few seasons, with the exception 885 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: of two thousand sixteen, and I think you'd have to 886 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: speak to every individual quarterback. John and I'm not saying 887 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: this was Eli's philosophy, but I think you're willing, as 888 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator, maybe as a head coach, to take 889 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: a few more chances when you know your defense is 890 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: probably more often they're not going to make the necessary stop, 891 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: hold the opposition to a field goal as opposed to 892 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: a touchdown. When you're now in a situation where you're 893 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: giving up explosive plays, you're not getting off the field 894 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: on third down, Yeah, you better hold onto that football 895 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: because every possession is that much more critical and that 896 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: much more important to at least walk away with some points. 897 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: And the Giants right now, every time they turn the 898 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: ball over there sacrificing a possession, they're also sacrificing a 899 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: lengthy drive, which is what you were touching on. In 900 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 1: terms of when you're a quarterback, living to see another down, 901 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,240 Speaker 1: living to see another play. Tom Brady and Drew Brees 902 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: maximize possessions. I would say, forget the scoring. They maximize 903 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: lengthy drives by not having those negative plays, by not 904 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: exposing their team to that. So you know, that's the 905 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: other thing that I think changes and gives flexibility to 906 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: a quarterback. How's the defense performing? How's the special teams performing? 907 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: Big well? KIF Live is presented by Corps Light and 908 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: Through in the Ultimate v I P game they experience 909 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: courtesy of course light texs v I P in the 910 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: nine oh four six four four more details. Back to 911 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: the phones, big at is in Maryland? What's going on 912 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,919 Speaker 1: to gain? What up? Guys? Can you hear me really good? 913 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: Loud and clear? Big man? Alright, alright, we have a 914 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: great John and the great Lance and with the big As, 915 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: they're coming to you lot, what is this going to have? 916 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: One heck of a Monday night at Trava Againsa with 917 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: the incomparable dak press. Goot just bombing a way and 918 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 1: you usually hold on. You missed their optimistic every time 919 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,720 Speaker 1: you call in. That was a curveball I was not expecting. Look, look, 920 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: look I'm not finished. Then we have the future comparable, 921 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: the future super bold New York Giant winning quarterback Dan. 922 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: You'll throw it on the dime joke if he got 923 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: it dad to throw it to you. We got to 924 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: do just that. And how do we win football games 925 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL? We grow it before we throw it 926 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: earlier we can win it. How don't take catch it 927 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: throw with deep anyway? We need all the past interference 928 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 1: and you're funny man, Oh you got anything else for us? Dude? 929 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 1: Hey guy, look, I'm sorry I didn't make the other 930 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: game that I wasn't financially ready to make that were 931 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:27,760 Speaker 1: but I intend to be there Monday night to But look, um, 932 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,919 Speaker 1: y'all can answer this because everybody's gonna keep talking about 933 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: it until it's stop talking about Oh yeah, tell Lynn 934 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: because he's on after me. Uh Lynn, I love you, 935 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: bro los in Bellsville you can come to that. That's 936 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: the Giants bar we watched the Giants Johns dig in there. 937 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, guys, Um, everybody's been talking. They're gonna 938 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: keep talking, so be quiet and letting us play. For 939 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: letting them guys play football, we gotta have to play. 940 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 1: If he works to play right and he does it right, 941 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, like this win against Ballance, I'm 942 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 1: cool with coach. We lose your balance without your execution. 943 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: For preparation. Hey, no, no more playing around. Now you 944 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: gotta go. We don't need to lose the quarterback. I 945 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: mean to lose the coach. We got to have a 946 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 1: winning coach. How how else do winning coaches winning games? 947 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: And you gotta be able to analysis every five minutes, 948 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: Every five minutes count. You gotta be able to coach 949 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: every piece of the game till the end. Thank you, Bigad. 950 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: We got a hard bow. I appreciate it. I love 951 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: to see you guys in a minute. Sounds good to you. 952 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: How Monday night? How does he know Letton's gonna fight? 953 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, but he actually is. Which was such 954 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: a bizarre statement for him to just make out of 955 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: the blow. Oh I know, let's gonna be on the 956 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: right after me. I get that, but I just want 957 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 1: to know. There's no way he couldn't know what's going on. 958 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 1: I mean, did they coordinate phone calls or something? Just 959 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: very interesting. That may have been the most insightful a statement. 960 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: I think, Yes, I remember there are there are winning 961 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,479 Speaker 1: coaches that lose a lot of games because he doesn't 962 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,919 Speaker 1: have enough talent. Of course, and once again, I don't 963 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: think necessarily it's synonymous with a team not being well 964 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 1: prepared if they don't necessarily execute accordingly. Now, sometimes it's 965 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: a guy that's been told by his coaches be in 966 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: this position and anticipate this play John, and then you 967 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: know what, it just doesn't get to the point where 968 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 1: you wrap the guy around enough and you bring him 969 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 1: down and he gets out of your tackle, and that 970 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: could all of a sudden be a game changing play. 971 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 1: We've seen it more often than not to start that 972 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: line's game. They were freely kept coming. On Monday, the 973 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: guys came out. They weren't ready to play after the 974 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: significant time off or whatever it may be. Yeah, well, 975 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,839 Speaker 1: so you're telling me Sae Kwon Barkley wasn't ready to play. 976 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: He sees the reason he went down thirteen nothing because 977 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: he blew a past protection. So you're telling me that's 978 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: on Sae Kwon Barkley, one of the more conscientious, better 979 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: prepared players that I've ever seen here, wasn't ready to play. 980 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I don't believe he just executed 981 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: the play poorly. He made a mistake. He in the 982 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: Emmy and Mental era. It happens, doesn't mean they're not 983 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: ready to play just because you know, it's like classic 984 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: and baseball. Oh, the team was so lethargic they couldn't score, 985 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: and he runs a no energy. Well do you know 986 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 1: why they were lethargic and they had the energy, they 987 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,800 Speaker 1: couldn't get a damn hit because the picture was really good. 988 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: So they look lethargic because they can't get any hits. 989 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: It's just like it's it's a cause and effect thing. 990 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: Just you know, I don't know. To me, this is 991 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's much more about other stuff than than that. 992 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: I think it's an easy thing to say, that's very 993 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: broad and easy to look at based on what you see. 994 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 1: But in the end, the road doesn't mean anything. So 995 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: what the guys weren't prepared to play the game but 996 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: eight minutes and they're like, oh now now we're ready 997 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: to go. I mean, come on, that doesn't make any sense. Well, 998 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, it reminds me of a really earth shattering 999 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 1: conversation we've had earlier this season that the defense was 1000 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: motivated to play because of the change. What happened to that. 1001 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm still once again trying to get to the bottom 1002 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: of that, and we will keep you posted every single 1003 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 1: day here on Big Blue Cake Off live and assure you. 1004 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of people working around the clock 1005 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 1: to figure that one out. But that's what it reminds 1006 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: me of, that type of a conversation to a one 1007 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: high three four five on three, Big Ad, let him 1008 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: Maryland is up next day. Well that's some transition. What's 1009 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: up lad? Hey guys, Hey, big Ad, thanks always the 1010 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: privilege to follow you. I'll get into the archives and 1011 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: check out the name of that bar. I didn't quite 1012 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: catch it. Maybe i'll see you for the Jets game. 1013 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 1: And we got to figure out a way to get 1014 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: in touch and I can maybe I can set you 1015 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: up with some set you up with some tickets. Okay, hey, guys, 1016 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: good to see you. It'll good to talk to you. 1017 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 1: I should good to see you. Two. I'm watching you 1018 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,479 Speaker 1: on the kind of think Listen, this is you known. 1019 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 1: Probably gonna start out a little negative, but I'm going 1020 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 1: to have that positive, I promise you. Halapo is starting 1021 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: the center for one reason and one reason only. He's 1022 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 1: the best center on the team. This coach isn't stupid. 1023 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna play his best players. Yes, I would, I 1024 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: would imagine that the with the number of with the 1025 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: number of injuries that have taken place to centers and 1026 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: in the NFL, I would imagine that our phone is 1027 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: not ringing off the hook with people trying to trade 1028 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 1: for Pulley. Well, that wasn't a negative, stam Colpeo. I 1029 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,919 Speaker 1: think Calopio is. He's just the best center on the team, 1030 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: all right. Secondly, on the comment about Barkley, you were 1031 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: talking about how Pele missing a block or it was 1032 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: really Barkley's fault. General rule of some se quon you 1033 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,839 Speaker 1: deliver the block, you don't, but you make a good point. 1034 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 1: He had that block later in the game where he 1035 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,240 Speaker 1: tried to block Jared Davis and he just got completely 1036 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: run over. And by the way, was either the play 1037 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 1: before or after that he failed the block a cornerback 1038 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 1: coming on the blitz and Barkley, somebody that's been really 1039 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: good in past protection, he was a disaster in that 1040 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:56,439 Speaker 1: area against the line. What was it related to? Yeah, 1041 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: blocking is about delivering with power the right sword. I mean, 1042 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,359 Speaker 1: you know, you know, come on, I mean ridiculous. Look um, 1043 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 1: I you know I buy into your analysis, Sean of 1044 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: the negativity about the trade for Williams. By the way, 1045 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm real positive on that trade, real positive on 1046 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: that trade. I think he plays a game with us. 1047 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: He's he's one of our top ten players. I mean, 1048 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: I turn that down, you know, I mean the third 1049 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,720 Speaker 1: round in a third round raft choice. It's just the number. 1050 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the number. It's seventies six, or 1051 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 1: it's it's it's the number three pick. There's no name 1052 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: associated with you know, I want the proven guy. I 1053 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, I indeed like that that trade, but I 1054 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: think there's more to the trade at this time, John, 1055 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: I think these owners are getting Nancy. By the way, 1056 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 1: and I'll go on record now if I haven't done 1057 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: her already. I'm a big Mara fan. I'm siding with 1058 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: him every time. I'm a big Mara guy, So I'm 1059 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 1: siding with him. We've lost thirty of our last forty games. 1060 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: You know, you say that over again, and you say 1061 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 1: to you said, oh my god, that's awful. It is 1062 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 1: in our ninety five year history. I haven't done the 1063 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: research on this, but I'm pretty sure I'm right on this. 1064 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: In our ninety five year history, in a in a 1065 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 1: forty any forty game sequence, we haven't lost thirty of 1066 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,240 Speaker 1: them years. Maybe in the seventies, maybe in the seventies. 1067 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have to go. I'm 1068 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,399 Speaker 1: telling you, I'm doing that off the top of my head. 1069 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: So but I'm just saying that I can't imagine. And 1070 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 1: even around the league, you're not going to find many 1071 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: instances in a hundred year history of the NFL that 1072 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 1: a team loses thirty out of forty games. That's terrible. 1073 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,240 Speaker 1: And there is a franchise known as the Cleveland Browns. 1074 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 1: I said, there's a franchise known as the Cleveland Browns. 1075 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: The last time I check line, I find that hard 1076 00:52:55,239 --> 00:53:01,479 Speaker 1: to believe that no other team as to the lance Lance, Yeah, 1077 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 1: thanks for finding one. Well, but you you you put 1078 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,320 Speaker 1: the Giants on an island. So I mean the bottom 1079 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 1: line is you you gotta provide perspective in just to 1080 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 1: make sure we're both right, Well, one of us is right. 1081 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,399 Speaker 1: I'll go back and check on that. Well real quick, 1082 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: real quick. I I I again, I haven't looked at 1083 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 1: the forty games span, but in seventy three of the 1084 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 1: Giants went two eleven and one, and in seventy four 1085 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 1: they went two and twelve. So I got to imagine 1086 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,919 Speaker 1: the thirty games surrounding that forty games running that era 1087 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,319 Speaker 1: probably might have been a little bit worse, but I 1088 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 1: think that might be the only one. All right, give 1089 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,839 Speaker 1: me the two years so I don't have to dick two. Yeah, yeah, 1090 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,799 Speaker 1: it was nineteen seventy three and nineteen seventy four. Boy, 1091 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:43,399 Speaker 1: those who were awful teams. Oh my god, boy an 1092 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: Sparkers coach. Maybe he took over in seventy four. Those 1093 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 1: are those are it may have been the end of 1094 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: Alex Alex Webster's uh but those were beams. But but 1095 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: I'll check. But what so, let me let me just 1096 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: in case all of that works out in your favor. Um, 1097 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: let's point, there's very few, there's very few instances. I 1098 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,240 Speaker 1: thought the turnaround, you know, I really thought we would 1099 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 1: begin to see the growth of this thing. And I 1100 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: think Mr Mara and Mr Tisch probably felt the same 1101 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 1: way with with the Arizona game. I mean, we're not 1102 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 1: playing the iron of the league. We're playing at home, 1103 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, all the thing about three thousand miles, um. 1104 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 1: And then we got a mid level team in Detroit 1105 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,720 Speaker 1: the next week, and then then we got the Cowboys 1106 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: on Monday night. You know, Okay, but then we got 1107 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 1: the Jets coming up. I think you know, I'm looking 1108 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 1: at three out of four out of that sequence, but 1109 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: it's not happening. You know, Look, enough is enough, you 1110 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,320 Speaker 1: start making some trades. I think this is all about 1111 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 1: winning and winning now it's it's not about signing in 1112 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 1: them for next year and integrated them into the defense. 1113 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 1: By the way, with Buchanan and with Williams, and if 1114 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: Beale comes back, and if Shepherd plays on Sunday, by 1115 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 1: the way, do we know anything about Shepherd. I think 1116 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: it's looking up, but he is not officially cleared concussion 1117 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 1: protocol yet. As far as I understand, this is gonna 1118 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 1: be the best forty six people we have put on 1119 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 1: the field in the last forty games. Yeah, I think 1120 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 1: you're probably right. From a health perspective, all of that 1121 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,280 Speaker 1: falls into place. This is not a bad roster. Let's 1122 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 1: start turning this around. I'm looking at five and three 1123 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,720 Speaker 1: in the second half of the season. It sounds good, 1124 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, good stuff. I think we'd love to see that. 1125 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, by the way, three and thirteen, one and fifteen, 1126 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 1: oh and sixteen from two thousand, fifteen to seventeen. I 1127 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 1: don't even need to add that up, I can tell 1128 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 1: you they didn't even get the ten wins. They will 1129 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 1: be four and forty four. There you go. Yeah, So 1130 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: there has been other franchises that have struggled immensely. You 1131 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,880 Speaker 1: probably look at the Detroit Lions. Remember the Lions had 1132 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: a winless season two. So it's not just necessarily one franchise. 1133 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 1: There's been rough patches for a number of teams. And oh, 1134 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 1: by the way, a lot of those other teams they 1135 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 1: not win two Super Bowls in a very short period 1136 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 1: of time. So that's what perspective is all about. I 1137 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: got a bad feeling about this. Hallelujah, losing his mind? 1138 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: Mr Illness? What is this the first time he's calling 1139 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 1: in about a decade? Last week? Oh he did? He 1140 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: called last week. Now it's funny, Charlie. I'm not sure 1141 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 1: who complains about you more, Lance or Russ. You are 1142 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 1: on the top of both of their list right now, 1143 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,879 Speaker 1: and all I get his complaints about you from those 1144 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,359 Speaker 1: two guys. Hey, Russ loves me, he doesn't trust me. 1145 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,319 Speaker 1: What do we owe the pleasure? Wait? What do we 1146 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 1: owe this pleasure? Charlie? What you get lonely today? All 1147 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 1: of a sudden you wanted to speak to other human 1148 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:53,440 Speaker 1: beings in person and on on social media. Hey, Lis 1149 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,959 Speaker 1: that guy who called before, and he was talking about 1150 00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 1: Pulley and Hella Pio. He wasn't talking about experience in 1151 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,320 Speaker 1: the league. He was talking about experience at the position 1152 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,760 Speaker 1: of the center. That's what he was talking about. Polly 1153 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,439 Speaker 1: has more experience at center than Alpino has. But he didn't. 1154 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 1: He didn't specify that, and it's still not wrong. No 1155 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 1: I did. I actually did not know, but no, Alapio 1156 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: has been a professional football player longer than Spencer Polly 1157 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 1: in terms of years. He may not have as many starts, 1158 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: but he's been around it professional football longer than Polly. Yeah, 1159 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 1: so he was talking about Okay, well once again, but 1160 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't necessarily specify that. So when I 1161 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 1: heard that, I just thought that was a little mistake. 1162 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to read between the lines. Well, I guess. 1163 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 1: So this is why you called in. You called in 1164 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 1: to clarify a phone call about what happened forty five 1165 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 1: minutes ago. Thanks for playing catch up on Big Blue 1166 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: Kickoff Live tonight, which is a good thing for the 1167 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: sake of us as well as the rest of the 1168 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 1: listeners and viewers. Glad you clarified that what else is 1169 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 1: on the plate today that we need to address here? 1170 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 1: I think they should put bal on now and not wait. 1171 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 1: And you're gonna say, well, who are they going to 1172 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 1: take off? Well, we've got this guy Downs that has 1173 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 1: never played it down that we just brought up on 1174 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: the practice Schord. We got this guy Piece who I 1175 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 1: don't even think he's gotten a shirt or played maybe 1176 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: actually he was active last week, Charlie. Hold on, Charlie, 1177 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 1: you just disrespected Chris Piece. He was active last week 1178 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 1: because I didn't read him in the inactive list how 1179 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 1: many so you now owe him an apology and I 1180 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: want to hear you apologize to Chris Piece right here. 1181 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 1: Big Well, all I'm saying is he was active and 1182 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: he received the uniform, and you said he didn't get 1183 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: a uniform, wasn't activated, And I know Downs wasn't activated 1184 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 1: because he just got brought up. I bring up Chris Piece. 1185 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 1: You changed the conversation on the play all needs to 1186 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 1: be on three, but I won't do it. Well, Charlie, 1187 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 1: Charlie to your point, to your point, let's say deals 1188 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 1: on the fifty three Okay, where's her playing? Where would 1189 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 1: I play him? I would play him in and in 1190 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 1: the fraud or he's not, I would I would play 1191 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 1: him the slaughter. I would you know, if Baker is 1192 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 1: having a rough day, I would put him out there. 1193 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 1: I would do something with him. I put him on 1194 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: special teams too. The guy needs to play. He was 1195 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 1: a third round picking this uptential draft. We need to 1196 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 1: put him on the field. Look, and when when he's ready, 1197 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll put him out there. Uh yeah, when 1198 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: he's ready, he's ready. What do you want the guy 1199 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 1: to do? Well? They have until Wednesday of next week, 1200 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 1: as we mentioned, so there's no guarantee he gets activated 1201 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: for this game. He could very well be active for 1202 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 1: the Jets game. They may just be waiting out the window. 1203 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure he would be. And let me just tell 1204 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: you what Paul was saying, because I listened to the 1205 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: call they should go to a four man front. He 1206 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: didn't say they had to do it the first play, 1207 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 1: but put when it in your best line out there 1208 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 1: and then use Golden as the fifth guy that can 1209 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 1: rush the passer. So you've got Golden, you got Williams, 1210 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 1: you've got Thomilson. You got Hill and you got who's 1211 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 1: the lines. So you've got your best players up front, 1212 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 1: and that will stop to run, Zeky Elliott. That's what 1213 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: he was trying to say. Now he was thinking that 1214 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 1: is the best way to go. But problem not but 1215 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 1: trolle and has the Giants biggest problem on defense been 1216 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 1: stopping the run in the league, stopping the run? Where 1217 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: are they against the past? Charlie, Well, but that you know, 1218 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 1: but his biggest threat the run, Elliott, you gotta stop 1219 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 1: him first, been passing all over. I have a question 1220 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 1: for you. Where are the Cowboys ranking passing yards per game? 1221 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 1: Probably they're up in the top ten. Are third? Okay? 1222 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 1: What are they m rushing? Is it okay? Fourth? I 1223 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 1: think that's a little that's pretty good. Isn't it always 1224 01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 1: like one on one football? Stop to run first? Well 1225 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 1: you Alliott, no, Charlie, you know what, not anymore with 1226 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 1: with with with with with all due respect to the 1227 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 1: old school guys out there, it's not anymore because if 1228 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 1: you because nothing about it, if you're a really good 1229 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 1: defensive team, the most important thing you can do is 1230 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 1: stop the other team from passing the football. Not to 1231 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 1: say you can be bad against the run. But if 1232 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 1: you're an average run defending team and an awesome past 1233 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,919 Speaker 1: offending team, you're gonna be a terrific defense. If you're 1234 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 1: a really good run defending team and just an average 1235 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 1: past defending team, you're gonna be an average run and 1236 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna be an average overall defense. The way the 1237 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 1: league works now, with it being such a past heavy game, 1238 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,840 Speaker 1: you could hear and this year's why, Charlie. I'm gonna 1239 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 1: break it down real simple. Let's say the team runs 1240 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 1: on first and second down and you play to your 1241 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,360 Speaker 1: three yard per carry average and you're really good, uh 1242 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 1: run defense? Right, it's third and four. If you can't 1243 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 1: defend the past, you're not stopping third and four. You're 1244 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,040 Speaker 1: not the guy's getting the first down anyway. So what 1245 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 1: no one here? No, well, no, Charlie. If the best 1246 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 1: run defenses in the league allowed three yards per carry, 1247 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 1: so that's what it is. So third and four or heck, 1248 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,720 Speaker 1: let's say you only give up two yards you Let's 1249 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,919 Speaker 1: let's say your third and six. If you're really bad 1250 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 1: pass defense, the other team is going to convert that. 1251 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 1: And what did your great run defense do for you? 1252 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 1: It did absolutely nothing so to me. And look, I'm 1253 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 1: happy paus On here, but he will try to slam 1254 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 1: my face against his damn mind. Thanks you, I appreciate it. 1255 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,160 Speaker 1: But the bottom line now is that in the league 1256 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: these days, and now we were done with the McKenzie, 1257 01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 1: don't worry. We're not losing, not not at all. One 1258 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 1: of the best drop called decisions You've got make the 1259 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 1: history of kick off live the bottom of Look, lens, 1260 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 1: please disagree in the if you do, but the same 1261 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 1: that's like your favorite thing in the world to do. 1262 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 1: But the bottom line is, if you can't stop the 1263 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 1: pass this league anymore, the rest of it doesn't matter. 1264 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 1: Just look at how the Patriots have built their defense. 1265 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 1: Where do they put all their resources into secondary? Into 1266 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,840 Speaker 1: the secondary? And let me ask you this, when guys 1267 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 1: get big money in free agency, who are the guys 1268 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 1: that get big money. Is that the guys that affect 1269 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: the run game or the guys that affect the pass game? Offensively, 1270 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 1: who's getting the big money. Is that the guys that 1271 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 1: affect the pass game or is it guys that affect 1272 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 1: the run game. It's always the guys that affect the 1273 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 1: pass game. And again not that it's not important not 1274 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 1: to be bad stopping the run, over bad running the ball. 1275 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 1: You have to be average at those things, I think 1276 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,200 Speaker 1: to be balanced, but you don't have to be great 1277 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 1: at it anymore. No, you can get away with being 1278 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 1: in the middle of the pack. I think you can 1279 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 1: go to two perfect examples. First of all, the last 1280 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 1: game against the Lions, John, the Giants shut down the 1281 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 1: Lions run game. They run them down twenty five times 1282 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 1: for fifty nine yards. The Lions only average two point 1283 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 1: five two point four yards per carry. And then what happened. 1284 01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford had a field day through the area at 1285 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 1: toy plus you are touchdown. So here's the point. You 1286 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,600 Speaker 1: did good. You stop the Lions run game. You made 1287 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 1: them somewhat one dimensional, but they still were able to 1288 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 1: have success. Here's another great example. Let's go back to 1289 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen, John, because that was a time where 1290 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 1: the Giants had one of the best rushing defenses in 1291 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 1: the NFL. That year, they were top five unit if 1292 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,040 Speaker 1: memory serves me correctly. And then you got to the playoffs, 1293 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,440 Speaker 1: you played Aaron Rodgers and the Packers, and what happens. 1294 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 1: D RC goes out and Aaron Rodgers goes to the 1295 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,760 Speaker 1: air and carves up the Giants defense. So you said 1296 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 1: to yourself, hey, we were great at stopping the run. Okay, 1297 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 1: So the Packers adjusted and went to the air, and 1298 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 1: you had no answer. So those examples, both one current 1299 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,040 Speaker 1: and one a few years ago when you had a 1300 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 1: very respectable run defense, just goes to show you the 1301 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 1: team adjusted had success through the air. Nobody had an 1302 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 1: answer on the Giants defense, and the fact show that 1303 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,920 Speaker 1: they came out on the wrong side of those games. 1304 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 1: So you need to have good cover guys or guys 1305 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,240 Speaker 1: that hustle and know how to make necessary tackles in 1306 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 1: open space in order to to make up for perhaps 1307 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 1: some of the other facets of your defense where there's 1308 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,680 Speaker 1: some shortcomings. And right now, unfortunately the Giants just they 1309 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 1: are not showcasing enough balance in those departments. I mean, 1310 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 1: the top rush defense in the league is the tam 1311 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:16,160 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. No, there you go. But here's another thing 1312 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 1: to take it the consideration, why do you think the 1313 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 1: Bucks are a good rushing defense? Ob beaus, teams just 1314 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 1: passed against the more so that doesn't tell the whole story. 1315 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 1: By the way, why do you think the Patriots are 1316 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 1: still good against the run. Do you know why? Because 1317 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,480 Speaker 1: they go up in all these games and all teams 1318 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 1: can do is pass because we're down by so many points. 1319 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 1: It's a big part of it. And it's not to 1320 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 1: take any credit away from any of those teams, but 1321 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 1: of course the statistics alone need context. Because the tam 1322 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. Yeah, the big reason why they're rushing defense 1323 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,400 Speaker 1: is good because everybody is saying to themselves, Yeah, they 1324 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,840 Speaker 1: can't stop the pass. We don't need to run the football. 1325 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 1: We're just gonna throw against them. And therefore your rushing 1326 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:56,360 Speaker 1: totals are low because you lean so heavily on the 1327 01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,920 Speaker 1: arm strength and the decision making of your quartermain. Yeah, 1328 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 1: let me go through the top three as defenses in 1329 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 1: the league, the forty Niners, the Patriots and the Bills, 1330 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,160 Speaker 1: And what are those three of the best defenses in football? 1331 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 1: And consistent defenses too, I would argue, all right, we'll 1332 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:11,800 Speaker 1: be back with you on Monday on Big Blue Kick 1333 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 1: Off Live, presented by Cores Light, Lance Meadow, John Schmilk 1334 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 1: will continue to preview. Giants and Cowboys will do a 1335 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 1: full throated preview on Monday. Will Mickey Spagnola from Dallas 1336 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com as well getting ready for the Giants 1337 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 1: and Cowboys on Monday Night football. What does that mean 1338 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,400 Speaker 1: this weekend, folks. It means you have time to watch 1339 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 1: other NFL games and anything else you want to do. 1340 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,600 Speaker 1: So enjoy it. Held everybody that Happy Halloween for Lance Meadow. 1341 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm John Schmilk. We'll see on Monday. Enjoy your weekend, 1342 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:35,920 Speaker 1: have a go on