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Speaker 2: Into the uptime for the touchdown. Hollywood Brown has been spectacular.

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Speaker 2: Connor to the five and end of the end zone

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Speaker 2: Problem solved touchdown, Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 1: All that was nasty right there right The latest news

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Speaker 1: and notes from the insiders who cover the team.

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Speaker 3: Bring it on, Break it.

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Speaker 2: On, tuckdown, Saving Colin slam to the ground by fooda

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Speaker 2: baker like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield,

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Speaker 2: skirting nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: All right. The bye week is upon us. In Before

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Speaker 2: Danny Sirek and Derrinerman say bye for the week, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna bust out This edition of Cardinals Underground brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Pacific Office Automation. I think the question off

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Speaker 2: the top that most is most relevant, as Polly Podcasts

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Speaker 2: thinks out loud, do we need to revisit or review

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Speaker 2: the expectations and standards during the bye week a podcast.

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Speaker 2: No just for conduct thereof once you're away from the

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Speaker 2: facility and you're enjoying said bye week.

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Speaker 4: You want a self scout Cardinals underground.

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Speaker 2: As Bruce Arians used to say, don't be the guy

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Speaker 2: including me. BA used to include himself and the rules

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Speaker 2: and regulations and the expectations. So are we good, Danny good?

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Speaker 2: Are you're good on what's expected by the time you

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Speaker 2: get back next Monday?

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Speaker 4: There are no expectations, Paul. So yeah, I'm pretty good

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Speaker 4: and pretty good on the expectations.

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Speaker 2: All right, Okay, she's a little incredulous that you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm thrown out there that you know there would ever

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Speaker 2: be any question about anyone's conduct during the bye week.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my goodness, you know, especially after a feel

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Speaker 2: good win like that in Pittsburgh. I'm a little confused though.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was the Steelers who win at home

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Speaker 2: in December under Mike Tomlin because the record was twenty

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Speaker 2: nine and eleven, and the Cardinals went in there and

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Speaker 2: they beat the Stellers at their own game, did they not.

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Speaker 4: I'm just glad that you're here on this Tuesday. Finally

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Speaker 4: dried off after being down the field through those two weather.

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Speaker 2: Delays, Paul, It was a process I tried. I tried

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Speaker 2: to get the officiating crew. I tried to convince them

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Speaker 2: that we were past the fifth inning and the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: had the lead. Just call the game and everyone can

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Speaker 4: One that hasn't that same question in the press didn't work.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that I've never been through something like that.

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Speaker 2: And it was the lightning obviously, because they'll play through anything,

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Speaker 2: and they have, We've all seen it.

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Speaker 3: You got to call it a weather delay, not a

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Speaker 3: rain delay. It wasn't a rain delay.

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Speaker 2: It was early second quarter. I looked across the sideline

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Speaker 2: and the Steelers crew started putting tarps over everything. Oh,

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Speaker 2: that's not a good sign that. I looked to my

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Speaker 2: left and the Cardinals equipment guys were putting tarps over

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Speaker 2: everything and said they know something I don't. And about

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Speaker 2: five minutes later, wh oh, and it was just coming

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Speaker 2: down sideways. And that's what was most remarkable to me

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Speaker 2: about that ninety nine yard drive was that the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: did it in that driving rain and there was a

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Speaker 2: win in the face of Kyler Murray and they still

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Speaker 2: converted five third downs. It was a wallless drive in

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Speaker 2: so many ways, but they did it in the elements

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Speaker 2: and I mean how many how many times a year

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Speaker 2: were so many excuses to not win that game and

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Speaker 2: once again they played Steelers football better than the Steelers

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Speaker 2: when they leave TJ. Watt after the game saying we

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Speaker 4: To spend almost ninety minutes in a locker room in

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Speaker 4: the way the Cardinals did is impressive. We heard from

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Speaker 3: What really struck me was when that game started. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: and that wasn't everything. Obviously they couldn't run the ball either,

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Speaker 3: McBride was unbelievable. I thought Kyler Murray played a game

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Speaker 3: that was way beyond what his stats would show. But

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Speaker 3: I thought it was the defense that did something. I

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Speaker 3: don't care if it was Kenny Pickett and Mitch Tubrisky.

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Speaker 3: You know, they they had played so poorly the week before,

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Speaker 2: Because, let's face it, after the Rams loss at home,

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Speaker 2: the way they lost that game, the way they gave

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Speaker 2: like at times, it was legitimate to be worried to

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Speaker 2: And my understanding is they saw a side of Jonathan

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Speaker 2: and the message was sent, Look, we might lose, but

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Speaker 2: lack of effort. So if nothing else, that's what you

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Speaker 4: It was impressive coming off that Rams loss on all

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Speaker 4: And kicker Matt Prater tied his own franchise record for

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Speaker 2: And talking about that, Prader Cook.

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Speaker 4: I mean, talk about trusting your kicker. What was the

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Speaker 4: number we saw Darren? Four straight games where Prader has

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Speaker 2: Of those nine in the elements that would have been

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Speaker 3: Crushed it.

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Speaker 4: Incredible. Special teams had a much better performance. The defense

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Speaker 4: had a much better performance after getting run all over

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Speaker 4: stuck with the run game this week. James Connor did

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Speaker 4: such a good job at, and really running through the

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Speaker 4: and it was a season high thirty two thirty eight

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Speaker 3: Thirty eight total. You're counting the three.

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Speaker 4: Kneel downs at the end, Okay, so thirty five.

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Speaker 4: But the fact that we had heard earlier in the

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Speaker 4: probably should have given the ball to Connor Moore and run,

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Speaker 3: Again, agree with the sticking with a run, but the

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Speaker 3: having seventeen yards rushing at halftime on ten carries. The Connor.

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Speaker 3: Most of the time he doesn't carry it that much.

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Speaker 3: Most backs never carry it twenty five times in a

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Speaker 3: his best runs were in like his last eight carries,

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Speaker 3: when like you said, they had wore down the Steelers,

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Speaker 4: Seemed like a storybook homecoming to go back to Pittsburgh

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Speaker 4: Connor had made it clear earlier in the week, still

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Speaker 4: It wasn't just fans who had traveled in Connor Cardinals jerseys.

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Speaker 4: There were plenty of Steelers Connor jerseys, and those fans

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Speaker 4: a lot of times were holding a jersey from pitt

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Speaker 4: had a poster of pictures of her with Connor, and

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Speaker 4: they were all of when Connor was in a Pittsburgh jersey.

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Speaker 4: It was just it's the type of person he is.

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Speaker 4: You want to cheer for him, regardless of which team

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Speaker 4: he did, a great individual performance, a great team performance,

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Speaker 4: a win in that kind of weather, you just you

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Speaker 2: Did all the media obligations afterwards, which I give him

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Speaker 2: But I asked him, I said, look, is this the

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Speaker 2: And to end up on angry runs after he just

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Speaker 4: Just as incredible as Connor's performance was in Pittsburgh was

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Speaker 2: I love the line, by the way where he said

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Speaker 3: I'm a quick aside on the Patrick Peterson stuff. I

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Speaker 2: Well he had some strong comments about Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: Did he did again? That's where I'm going with it, Like, look,

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Speaker 3: I Patrick was always a guy who the words got

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Speaker 3: And he was one of those guys where if you

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Speaker 2: And by the way, after the Minnesota win last year,

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Speaker 2: and was caught on camera. Yeah, and I was right

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Speaker 2: there and he was yelling out, where's Kime? Yeah, where's Chime?

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Speaker 3: And he said some things about the quarterback, which when

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Speaker 3: it's a little disappointing. Obviously he said some things going

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Speaker 3: while I I have sometimes some mixed feelings with Patrick,

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Speaker 3: I completely understand the fan base that relished that video,

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Speaker 3: even though it didn't count as a play because of

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm going to say what Kyle Brand said on

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Speaker 4: then so are you, Darren from bringing that up. I'm

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Speaker 4: our team photographer, Kaitlyn Epps did a really really cool

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to see. I don't know if that's going

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Speaker 3: See here's the here's the problem that I was thinking

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Speaker 4: To get Maybe just do a selfie? But in the past,

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Speaker 3: Trust I would love to see that, but I don't

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Speaker 2: But does it get any better than the postgame picture

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Speaker 2: that the game ball says bully ball, because that's his phrase, bullyball.

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Speaker 2: He got that from the Steelers, and I can tell

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Speaker 2: what That's what James Connor is. The dude is a mindset.

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Speaker 2: He's a mental the way he plays. It's funny because

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Speaker 2: Kyle Vannibasch said it didn't shock him that a number

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Speaker 3: Well, as much as I want to give and James

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Speaker 2: But it's amazing. Now guys aren't as willing to come

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Speaker 2: So that was good to see, and that I mean

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Speaker 4: Well, it's funny because James Connor and Jonathan Gannon, two

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Speaker 4: up JG. And you can a picture is worth a

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Speaker 3: Some of them might need to be beeped out.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Why JG felt that way.

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Speaker 2: Well, when I ran into the locker room and on

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Speaker 3: We did hear that long, did you?

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Speaker 2: So that was good. I did notice that that really

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Speaker 4: That was my first time in Pittsburgh, and so even

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Speaker 2: I told Craig Griol of this, but I'll relay it

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, Paul, I've seen you after some weather

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't If we want to get this on camera,

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Speaker 2: But uh, Calvin Beacham was very adamant right down. Greg Dortch,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, but you know what, and I know Beach

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Speaker 2: Watt after the game to say we got our butts kicked,

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin to say we looked like we were playing

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Speaker 2: JV football. No, I didn't see that coming. But for

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Speaker 2: the sort of win that you can references Jonathan Gannon

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Speaker 3: narratives or one of the big hopes or whatever you

438
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Speaker 3: want to call it going into the season was if

439
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 3: this team can find itself as in a lot of

440
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,719
Speaker 3: ways the Lions and Dan Campbell's first year where they

441
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 3: didn't win a lot of games, but you could see something.

442
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 3: And whether you want to compare it to the Lions

443
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 3: or not, that's up to you, but you can see something.

444
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Speaker 3: This does not look like a three win team now.

445
00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 3: They've had the main quarterback back for these last four games,

446
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 3: so that's where they get through two wins and at

447
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 3: two and two. If Kyler Murray had been healthy the

448
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 3: whole time with this roster this is I would that's

449
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 3: where I kind of would have picked them somewhere around

450
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 3: seven to ten wins somewhere in there, and that's kind

451
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 3: of what they're doing right now. But the fact that

452
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 3: they're able to maintain enough focus to not let this

453
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 3: get sideways late in the season with the record the

454
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Speaker 3: way it is, I just think is a big testament

455
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Speaker 3: to what Jonathan Gannon is doing right now.

456
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Speaker 4: That was something I'd ask Connor my postgame interview, is

457
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 4: the mindset and the resiliency of this team to bounce

458
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 4: back coming off a lackluster performance against the Rams the

459
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 4: week prior, and Connor said, our record does not resemble

460
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 4: and doesn't show the fight that we have, and that's

461
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 4: a great way to put it. You're right, Darren, this

462
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 4: does not look like a three win team. They have

463
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 4: been putting together a lot of good pieces, not always

464
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 4: in the same game on all the three phases of

465
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 4: the game. But coming off a week like this week

466
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 4: against the Steelers, when all three phases looked like they

467
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 4: were clicking and we saw complimentary football for the first

468
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 4: time where the offense was putting points on the board

469
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 4: after the defense had forced turnovers, you're getting a sense

470
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Speaker 4: of what this team can really be. That's still dealing

471
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Speaker 4: with injuries. You didn't have wide receivers. Michael Wilson, Hollywood

472
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 4: Brown left the game with the heel injury that had

473
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Speaker 4: plagued him all week, kept him out of practice all week.

474
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Speaker 4: I think this is a good preview, though, of the

475
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 4: core players on offense and defense. When you got Buddha

476
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 4: Baker and Jalen Thompson back in that safety room after

477
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 4: they were hurt. With the core players, you're getting a

478
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 4: good preview of what this team can really look like

479
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 4: when you have a little bit more time under Gannon

480
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 4: and his coordinators in this coaching staff, and you can

481
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 4: add a few more personnel pieces where you have some

482
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 4: holes and you're having to really dig deep in the

483
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 4: depth of position rooms that don't have a lot of experience.

484
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 4: While you might be getting enough, you can absolutely get more,

485
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 4: but you are adding a good idea of what this

486
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Speaker 4: team can really look like this season.

487
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Speaker 3: Paul, you and I have watched this team for many

488
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 3: many years. A game where the quarterback and it wasn't

489
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 3: a lot of completion, it was thirteen completions, but the

490
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 3: game with the quarterback had thirteen completions and eleven went

491
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Speaker 3: to tight ends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I thought of. Honestly, I thought

493
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 2: of Carson Palmer in the way he won some games

494
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: because the passing stats to Carson didn't matter. But to me,

495
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 2: that's why it was such a big step for Kyler.

496
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Speaker 2: Not only what happened over the course of the game,

497
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 2: we'll get into that specifically, but the fact it's how

498
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 2: you won the game where you had the rushing stats right,

499
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: almost four yards of carry, one hundred and fifty yards rushing.

500
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Speaker 2: You out rushed the Steelers third down ten to seventeen

501
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 2: after you started zero for four. I mean, you could

502
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 2: have gone in the tank as an offense, you didn't.

503
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: Europped off eight out of nine at one point five

504
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 2: in the ninety nine yard drive, three for three in

505
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: the red zone, no turnovers against the top five takeaway

506
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 2: defense Pittsburgh they were number one with the niners and

507
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: turnover ratio, so all those key winning stats. You didn't

508
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: light up the passing game. And to your point, Danny,

509
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: it's a good point. No, Michael Wilson, no, Zach Pascal.

510
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: You still ran the ball out. Your two best run

511
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: blocking receivers who were very vital first couple months of

512
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: this season in the run game, they're no longer at

513
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: your disposal. It was just the manner in which they

514
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: went out there, and to me, that was the winning

515
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: football that Gannon talks about. That's what they're looking for.

516
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: And then I think it was the answer to the

517
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 2: question that we all posed after the Rams lost, Well,

518
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 2: what would have happen if you used the same game plan,

519
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 2: the same play calling the rest of the game is

520
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: he used on that first drive when you went twelve

521
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: plays seventy five yards under center five times four carries

522
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: to James Connor. Well, guess what this is. What happens.

523
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: He carries it twenty five times, it goes over one

524
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: hundred yards. Kylo is under center twenty four times more

525
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: than the first three games combined. That's what it looks like.

526
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Speaker 2: If you continue with the same plan of attack, use

527
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Speaker 2: that opening drive against the Rams at home.

528
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Speaker 3: I will say there's a caveat to that. And it

529
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 3: goes back to what I was talking about originally, which

530
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: is the defense has to ball. Yes, you you're not

531
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Speaker 3: going to be able to do that when they play

532
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers coming out of the by And

533
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: if the forty nine ers go and score ten points

534
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: on their first two drives or fourteen points on their

535
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: first two drives, and you had a slow start offensively,

536
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 3: you're not You're not running James Connor twenty five times.

537
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 3: So there there's going to be And that's why I

538
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 3: think that these last four games are so interesting to me.

539
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: You're gonna play the forty nine ers at home, You're

540
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 3: going to go to Chicago in the weather. Not a

541
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 3: great team, but it's you know, Christmas Eve on the

542
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: road in Chicago.

543
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 4: The weather sounds really nice to me. I'm actually looking

544
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 4: forward to it.

545
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Speaker 3: Oh, sorry, Paul, and the.

546
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 4: Sorry Danny.

547
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, scaloalloy, I forgot about that, yea. And

548
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: then we go to then we go to Philadelphia the

549
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: next week, which isn't going to be another I'm sure

550
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Speaker 3: lovely afternoon.

551
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: By the way, Red Sea. If you saw the video

552
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: of Eagles fans pelting those two Niner fans with snowballs,

553
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: proceed cautiously. Okay, if you're gonna wear a Cardinal's jersey

554
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 2: into the Eagle stadium, be real careful. Yeah, that's one

555
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 2: setting where it's no joke.

556
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a fair, fair point. I forgot that.

557
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: You got you get to do that exciting sideline.

558
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 4: I am actually I'm just gonna dress really warm.

559
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: But you know what, can I say this about the defense?

560
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 3: Make sure you have clean socks. Paul struggled with his

561
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 3: socks on the way home.

562
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Speaker 4: Did you you didn't bring extra socks?

563
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: Did you?

564
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 4: Were you wearing wet socks for like four hour four.

565
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 2: And a half hours, Paul, close to about seven hours.

566
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 3: That's a really rooky mistake.

567
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: That's really disappointed. At one point I did go into

568
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: the back of the plane and I was able to

569
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: retrieve some clean socks some dry socks, and yeah, so yeah,

570
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: wolf might embellish how much I was whining about it.

571
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: All of those definitely factor.

572
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: Actually I might have heard something out of Paul's on mouth.

573
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: You know, a wolf's up there having his coffee and

574
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: his Danish and he's in there, you know. Uh so

575
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: look is for the defense. Let me just say this.

576
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: And I asked Agannon this after the game, and I

577
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 2: got one of those James Connor answers where he sort

578
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: of laughed, and that was more telling than the answer itself.

579
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: Bold answers.

580
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: Yes, And I just said, how many different looks did

581
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: you show the Steelers today? Because in talking to some

582
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: guys after the game, I'm like, I asked that same question, like, oh,

583
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: we had a lot more, that's all. They would say,

584
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: we had a lot more, like we showed him a

585
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: ton and we had a lot more. Because keep in mind,

586
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett is a second year quarterback. He's got a

587
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 2: year and a half in the league. So they went

588
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 2: in and they had a ton of different looks. They

589
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: also made a small adjustment to my eye on third

590
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: and obvious passing situations. Josh Woods came out of the

591
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: game because he got victimized against the Rams more than

592
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: once by Kyraen Williams and coverage, Tyler Higbee in coverage,

593
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: and they threw Owen Papau out there, a guy with

594
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: you know, really good speed, he's raw as a rookie,

595
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: great athleticism, and they threw them out there in those

596
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 2: third and obvious. So you see a Cardinals defensive coaching

597
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: staff that I thought out Coach Tomlin, I thought, really

598
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 2: was this scheme was better and more confounding to the

599
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: Steelers than it was the other way around. And how

600
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: often do you ever say that about it, Mike Tomlin

601
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 2: coach team. So that makes me bullish on the future

602
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 2: as well.

603
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 4: I also noticed darre and I were talking to hear

604
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 4: the game that you could see when they put Drawbisky

605
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 4: in that the defense was moving around a lot more

606
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: at the line of scrimmage. There was I don't remember

607
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 4: if Pittsburgh it was a delay game, and they ended

608
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: up calling a time out pretty late, but you could

609
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: tell that they did not know what they were seeing

610
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: in the Cardinals defense. We also noticed that Woods would

611
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: move outside quite a bit if you would put you know,

612
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 4: Chris Barnes more in that middle linebacker role. They were

613
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 4: using Woods off the edge a little bit more this week.

614
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: Is that on opponents at this point that they can't

615
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: figure out the eleven card pickup as we turned it.

616
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 2: You know, the eleven card pickup where guys are just

617
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: meandering in the box and who goes where and maybe

618
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: you have won traditional defensive lineman. But it's a lot

619
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: of linebackers and safeties. I mean, you would think teams

620
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: would have an answer to that by now. Carlos will

621
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: put that on film a lot.

622
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: Well for me, when you say that, I get a

623
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: couple of reactions. One, the probably the bigger one is

624
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: again you're playing an opponent that you see once every

625
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: four years, and I know it's a new team anyways,

626
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: but it's like you get one week to kind of

627
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: prep for this and maybe it's just not enough. And

628
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: two it was Mitch Trubisky and Kenny Pickett and a

629
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: new offensive coordinator. I mean, we'll see what Brock Purty

630
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: MVP candidate and that offense is seeing when they.

631
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh also just signed Trace Bisorly, so you never know.

632
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: Well I did not see that, by the way, Speaking

633
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: of coaching, did you catch what Jonathan Gannett said on

634
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: Monday after the Pittsburgh Steelers win when he was asked

635
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: about I believe it was the difference in third downs

636
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: starting one four ending up ten to seventeen. One of

637
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 2: those was a Kyler new down. So you really ten

638
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: of sixteen on third down. And as part of his answer,

639
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: he said, I talked with Drew about it today. You

640
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: can't be afraid to repeat plays when they're good. Interesting. Right,

641
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: you're a first time offensive coordinator, you're a first time

642
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: play caller. I'm guessing you know you're prone to Hey,

643
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: I got a million different plays. Let's keep them off balance.

644
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: But guess what if you keep hitting with a single play,

645
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: go back to it till they stop it, just like

646
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 2: Kyler was doing with Trey McBride, Right, they can't cover him.

647
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: Here we go again again, McBride on a linebacker mismatch, again,

648
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: McBride on a slower box safety again. And I thought

649
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: that was a really underrated part of the game plan.

650
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: And what they did is they did like, for example,

651
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: how many times did the Rams in those two games

652
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: this year run the stinking crack toss? They kept going

653
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: with the crack toss until the Cardinals stopped it, which

654
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: they didn't. I mean, we put that on the radar.

655
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: Cardinals got to figure that out in the off season.

656
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: The Rams cracked toss because they're going to see in

657
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: the first meeting next year. Yeah, as long as Sean

658
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: McVay doesn't go to the Monday night football booth or whatever.

659
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: You know. So there was that, and then there was

660
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: Kyler in the postgame in Pittsburgh, where to your point earlier,

661
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: just get a little more specific on what you already

662
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: brought up Darren, where he said yeah, or it was

663
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: like it was Gannon who verified what Kyler said on

664
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: Sunday that his feed are so good that sometimes he

665
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: gets sped up a little too much, and that Kyler

666
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: told him after the second or third series, Okay, I

667
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: feel settled in now. He wasn't as quick to go

668
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: through his reads, and maybe his reads and his progressions

669
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: were ahead of the receivers. He was so amped up,

670
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: and you know, you're trying to get that rhythm whatever

671
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: that means. But part of rhythm is when you get

672
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: into the base of your drop, you know you hitch

673
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: and you want the ball out in rhythm with a

674
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: receiver coming out of his break, and they didn't quite

675
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: have that in sync yet, and it looked like even

676
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: though well two receptions the receivers, I get it, there

677
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: were definitely a couple other big shots that could have

678
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: been Rodendale more beautiful ball forty yards it could have been.

679
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 2: And then obviously the touchdown toss that got wiped out

680
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: by the whole thing.

681
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, if things would have been a little bit different,

682
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: Rondale Moore might have been one of the starters of

683
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: the game. Unfortunately, And I know, I know going back

684
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 3: to our Patrick Peterson conversation that there's a lot of

685
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: fans that were disappointed that the other one got the

686
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 3: touchdown catch got called back and that was an unbelievable

687
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: trapping against the helmet catching everything. And I'm sure Rondale

688
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: would probably say that I should have had that first one.

689
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if it wouldn't have been a touchdown

690
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: the more I look at it, but he would have

691
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: been down inside the ten yard line on a fantastic

692
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 3: throw by Kyler. And that's what I mean when I

693
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: said earlier that Kyler's game wasn't reflected by those stats,

694
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 3: because I mean, there's one hundred yards of passes right

695
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: there and at least one score that he didn't get

696
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: because of whatever happened, And he was throwing the ball

697
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: much better again once he settled down, like you said,

698
00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: than he had been.

699
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: I wonder if Kyler, if you would have completed those,

700
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: especially against Pat P, would have set after the game.

701
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: I wonder if you would have channeled his inner brock

702
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: Perty and said, and by the way, that was against

703
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: Patrick Peterson. Remember when brock Perty did that earlier this year,

704
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: they asked them about a touchdown pass and Perty actually

705
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: offered up to.

706
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: The media, was that last year this year?

707
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: I think it was earlier this year, right.

708
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 4: I think it was because the picture of Party when

709
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: he was really young, that picture he took with Patrick

710
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 4: Peterson was circulating before that game.

711
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but pat P had a couple of comments before

712
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: that game about what they were going to do to

713
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: Brock Party and the Niners receivers, and so Perty was

714
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: quick to point out who that touchdown toss came against.

715
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: So that was highly entertaining. I thought, by the way, Danny,

716
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,239
Speaker 2: your first trip to Pittsburgh, were you amazed at how

717
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: they put fries into everything? I mean literally everything, they

718
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: put him into the sandwiches, they put him into salads.

719
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: There's spries on pizza, Tater Todd pizza. Did you experience

720
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: any of that?

721
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: I respect it, No, I did not, Like I had

722
00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 4: had Permanty Brothers before, so I didn't hit that spot.

723
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 4: And actually the week prior here at our facility, I

724
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 4: think we had talked about it. They made a Pittsburgh

725
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 4: salar where they had fries in the sal which I tried. Yes,

726
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 4: better than I was expecting. You know what, this this

727
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: was my first time ever going to Pittsburgh, and for

728
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 4: some reason I had low expectations and I was actually

729
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 4: pleasantly surprised with how much I enjoyed the city. It's

730
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 4: a little too gloomy for my liking, but that's any

731
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: Midwest city at this time of the year, so I understand.

732
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 4: But the weekend that we had, at least the group

733
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 4: of us that were kind of doing a bunch of stuff,

734
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 4: I mean, I felt like we had been there for

735
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 4: four days. By the time it was kickoff on Sunday,

736
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 4: I told Darren I needed a nap before the game started.

737
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,479
Speaker 4: From the adventures that we had. But I actually really

738
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 4: enjoyed Pittsburgh.

739
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 3: It was.

740
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 4: It was a good time.

741
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: Did you go buy that all Christmas Bizarre market Square?

742
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 2: We did.

743
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 4: We were actually going to try to ice skate around

744
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 4: the tree, but the line was too long. Witch. Is

745
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 4: actually probably for the better for me, because I'm not

746
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 4: good on skates, and so I would have had you know,

747
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 4: there's a good chance I probably would have had, like

748
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 4: I risked in a cast or a black eye or

749
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 4: concussion or something come game time.

750
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you never know what those Pittsburghers, you know,

751
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: and the Penguins fans him and out there throwing hip

752
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: checks out on the ice rink even though it's Christmas time,

753
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, it is. It's it's a cool town the

754
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: way they you know.

755
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, being downtown was really cool.

756
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: When it didn't rain on Saturday, I knew we were

757
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: so host for Sunday that the rain you were.

758
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: So that's true, Danny and I were in the press box.

759
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 2: True, that's true.

760
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, Paul boy.

761
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: So all right, what else am I missing here?

762
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee.

763
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay.

764
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 4: Jonathan ledbetter fantastic press conference to the media Tuesday, and he.

765
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: Was amazing in the video they put out when he

766
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: was called Michael Bidwell announced him as the winner, and

767
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: he came out of the seats and the team meeting

768
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 2: and just impromptu gave a speech really well done for those.

769
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 4: Who don't know. Every team has a nominee based on

770
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: their efforts in the community, and each nominee will wear

771
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 4: a declend their helmet the the year and gets a

772
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: sizeable donation towards a charity of their choice. And then

773
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 4: Super Bowl weekend, the Walter Payton Man of the Year

774
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 4: is announced. Ledbetter. I feel like it's it doesn't just

775
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 4: say a lot about the type of person he is

776
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 4: in the work he does in the community, because he,

777
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 4: truly no exaggeration, is at almost every single community event

778
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 4: that this organization puts on. He touched on it a

779
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 4: little too. It kind of encompasses the year he's had,

780
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 4: maybe of that underdog, somebody who's more in the shadows

781
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 4: and isn't a position player where he has those big

782
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 4: stats or numbers, isn't necessarily a household name, and that

783
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 4: he's been okay with that role. And this year his

784
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 4: role includes stepping up as a leader in a position

785
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 4: room that has been bit by the injury bug. To

786
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 4: say the very least and has performed well on the

787
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 4: field and has stepped up as a leader and the

788
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 4: community as well. He showed up to his press conference

789
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 4: in a suit. He made sure that people got pictures

790
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 4: of him at the end where he looked good, because

791
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 4: he wanted to send them to his mom, who was

792
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 4: the person he was excited to call and tell about

793
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 4: the award. Anyway, it was just he was so well

794
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 4: spoken and intentional about the way he talked about his

795
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 4: efforts in the community and what has led him in

796
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 4: his life to being so passionate about who he is

797
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 4: as a person and what this award means to him. Darren,

798
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 4: it was I was almost an af sitting there of

799
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 4: like the twenty minutes just flew by because he was

800
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 4: so great up there at the podium.

801
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: I'm a big Jonathan Ledbetter fan. I have been for

802
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: a while. We talked in training camp about how he

803
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: was kind of an old soul. He's only twenty six,

804
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: but he carries himself a lot older than that, and

805
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: I mean that in a good way in terms of

806
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: just how he does things. And I do think he's

807
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: turned into a very solid player. He's turned into a

808
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 3: big leader in that locker room, and he definitely comes

809
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,479
Speaker 3: across to me as the type of player that MANI

810
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: Austin Fort would want on this roster, So I would

811
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: expect him to be around. You know, he's not obviously

812
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 3: super expensive, but he's been playing some solid football. And

813
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: this defensive line, the names they've had all year, and

814
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: then you add in the injuries, they should not be

815
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 3: as effective as they are, and they are. Kevin Strong

816
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: has been more effective than expected, Roy Lopez more, it

817
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: just you can go down the list and it's really

818
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: it's really kind of amazing.

819
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw in Roy Lopez last week and he

820
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: just said this scheme is such a better fit for

821
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: what he does than when he was in Houston. So

822
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if that was just sort of a

823
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: lucky strike of a signing, but I mean, Roy Lopez

824
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: his average like five tackles a game as an interior

825
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: d lineman. We've called his name a lot. And then

826
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 2: Kevin Strong. Obviously we saw what the Cardinals run defense

827
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: looked like without Kevin Strong against the Rams, and then

828
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: he had the big he was part of the big

829
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: stuff at the goal line that was the turning point

830
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: of the game. I mean Honestly, almost every game we

831
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: go into, right the Cardinals go into you look at

832
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 2: the opposing D line room. They have all these big names,

833
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: guys you've heard of. Most people have never heard of

834
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: anybody in the Cardinals D line room, but they've been bawling,

835
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 2: I mean in a lot of ways. I'm really curious

836
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: to see how they address that in the off season

837
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: because a lot of these guys were acquired as free agents,

838
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: but they're still in their mid twenties.

839
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am fascinated. I mean, we're not even Ta

840
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: Lucky photos on IR. LJ. Colliers on IR, Carlos Watkins

841
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: is on IR. Those three guys were all part of

842
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: the main rotation until they went down, So I am

843
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 3: fascinated by it. I do think that I could see

844
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 3: them trying to get some kind of blue chip defensive lineman.

845
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: But you don't need a lot of them. You just

846
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: want one guy to kind of anchor it. Now, if

847
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: you can hit on a draft pick like you did

848
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: with Trey McBride, who has been unbelievable. I mean, we

849
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: talked about James Connor earlier, and I know you talked

850
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 3: about McBride on that one thing, but like the tight

851
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: end thing is just it's amazing to me. I was

852
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: talking to Wolf on the plane, and Wolf's like he thinks.

853
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 3: He was telling me he thinks if McBride keeps upgrading

854
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 3: his blocking to go with what he's doing catching the ball,

855
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 3: he goes the Cardinal have George Kittle, that would be

856
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: pretty amazing.

857
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: Kyle Vanimbosch this morning on a Red Sea report about

858
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: Trey McBride, pose the question, is there another young tight

859
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: end you'd rather have on your roster? If you were

860
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: starting a team today, which tight end would you take?

861
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: Would you take a Kelsey or Kittle at the end

862
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: of their career or would you take a Trey McBride.

863
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: I said, well, Lions fans will probably throw out Sam Laporta,

864
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Hockinson, Mark Andrews is still in his prime,

865
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: gets banged up a lot. But you know point made

866
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: by Kyle Vannimbosch, and isn't it. From weeks eight through

867
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 2: thirteen now, Trey McBride as the most receptions of any

868
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: tight end in the NFL, and he's number two in

869
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: receiving yards.

870
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: I saw a stat that if you extrapolate what he's

871
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: done over a seventeen game season since Kyler came back.

872
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 3: It's like one hundred and sixteen catches in thirteen hundred

873
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: yards for seventeen games.

874
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 4: We had talked about when Zach Ertz was still in

875
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 4: ir if Earth were to come back, had McBride earned

876
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 4: that starting role. The Cardinals released Ertz last week and

877
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 4: McBride stepped up as he's continued to do the last

878
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 4: couple of weeks and showing that he can be a

879
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 4: true number one tight end. And you can tell that

880
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: Kyler is really beginning to trust and rely on McBride.

881
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 4: I think you saw that when Kyler went back to

882
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: McBride after that first touchdown was negated and went back

883
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 4: to him again. And we've seen that and it's been impressive.

884
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 3: Paul.

885
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: You talk about this all the time that one of

886
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 4: McBride's best traces he does not go down on first contact.

887
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 4: It is hard to get him down, similar to a

888
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 4: James Conner. And McBride has really become a staple of

889
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 4: this offense, especially when you've got a wide receivers room

890
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 4: that hasn't been able to really put up the numbers

891
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 4: you would need them.

892
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: To the.

893
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: Right now, Trey McBride the very next catch he makes,

894
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: which I assume will be against the forty nine ers,

895
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: we'll set the franchise record for catches in a season,

896
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: and that will be with three plus games to go.

897
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 3: And he wasn't even a main target. He was a

898
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 3: targeted ten times in the first five games, so he

899
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 3: barely got targeted those first five weeks. And he's still

900
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: piled up those numbers. He's already at six hundred ten yards.

901
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: Not a gigantic amount, but six hundred ten yards isn't

902
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: bad when you were only targeted ten times in five weeks.

903
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, he's the first Arizona Cardinal

904
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: to surpass six hundred yards receiving as a tight end

905
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: as a tight end, and if he can somehow get

906
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 3: to eight hundred yards, he needs one hundred ninety yards

907
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: over these last four games possible, he would be only

908
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: the second player, only second tight end and or franchise

909
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: history to get eight hundred yards. Jackie Smith had twelve

910
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 3: hundred and five one year, an eight hundred and ten

911
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: one year, and then you would have Trey McBride and

912
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: those two years were sixty six and sixty seven. So

913
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 3: it's been a minute since the Cardinals have had much

914
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: production from a tight end, and now all of a

915
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: sudden they look like they might have some guy who

916
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: you could really count on for the next five, six,

917
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: seven years.

918
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 4: I know we talk a lot about the rookie class. Yes,

919
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 4: there's also been a lot of players from the previous

920
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 4: regime in year two, maybe year three that we have

921
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: really seen step up, either in a similar role or

922
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 4: somebody like Xavi and Collins make a position change and

923
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 4: still be effective. And as much props as we've given

924
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 4: to this front office and the coaching staff for the

925
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 4: development of the rookies, I think it also says a

926
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 4: lot that a player like Trey McBride, who didn't get

927
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 4: a lot of opportunities last year and wasn't able to

928
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 4: be nearly as effective as he has been this year,

929
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 4: that's still impressive as well, even though they're not rookies.

930
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: Let me say two things about Trey McBride. One way

931
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: and I'm in the Big Red rage last month and

932
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: we asked him about his mindset, the mentality doesn't go down,

933
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: and he said he had a college coach early in

934
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 2: his college career tell him you should never go down

935
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: on first contact a dude with your athleticism and size

936
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: in that lower half, like you shouldn't don't don't let

937
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: a safety or dB bring you down especially, So that's

938
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 2: where he said that stems from. But can I also

939
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: say this, if you go back and you track his

940
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: production his surge this year, doesn't it more sync up?

941
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 2: Was zach Ertz going on ir because if you go

942
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: back to Week six is when he first started making

943
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: imprint four for sixty two in the loss against the

944
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: Rams twenty six to nine. He was quiet in Week seven,

945
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: then week eight against Baltimore. Josh Dobbs was still in

946
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: that game. It was still starting that game obviously, he

947
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 2: had ten for ninety five and that seventeen yard touchdown

948
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: where everyone shoved him in. And that's where it really

949
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 2: started to me, at least in my mind, is when

950
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: zach Ertz was out sort of lifted. He was out

951
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: of zach Ertz's shadow, and he was featured more in

952
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: terms of the targets, and maybe he was used more

953
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: as a receiving tight end than he had been previously.

954
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: He was flexed out more. To me, that's where it

955
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: sort of sinks up. And I just wonder if maybe

956
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: his confidence grew once he wasn't around a three time

957
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl tight end who maybe you know, took most

958
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: of the spotlight in that position. Room. Now, all of

959
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: a sudden he was allowed he had the room to

960
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: grow because Ertz was no longer in the picture. That's

961
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: just the least my thinking on that. So then when

962
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: it came to the point where maybe he was ready

963
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: to come off ir zach Ertz, they said, you know what, Yeah,

964
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: the feeling's mutual. You're looking for a contender and we've

965
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: got tight end one. So let's go ahead and grant

966
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: you your wish and you go find another team.

967
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: It's interesting that as we sit here and record this

968
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 3: on Tuesday, or the bye week Earth still hasn't found

969
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: a team yet, when everybody thought that that would probably

970
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: happen by.

971
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 2: Now, you know, so, all right, what else and anything?

972
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: Any big plans that I can live vicariously through. When

973
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: it comes to the bye weekend.

974
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 4: I'm going home to Dallas for a few days. I

975
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 4: realize I haven't really been home since May, so it's

976
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: been it's been a hot minute. I'm looking forward to it.

977
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: Okay, are you going to be sattled with dog sitting?

978
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: Isn't what happened? Last time you went home, you had

979
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: to end up dog sitting for various family members.

980
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: Do I remember that I heard?

981
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 4: Was that's a good memory, Paul, I went, I'm gonna

982
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 4: have to throw her under the bus. My parents were

983
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 4: going out of town for a wedding, and my older

984
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 4: sister is still like my nephew was too young, and

985
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 4: my younger sister had too many plans over the weekend

986
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 4: to drive back and forth from where she lives out

987
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 4: to where my parents' houses. So I did fly home

988
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 4: at one point to watch my dogs, which I would

989
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 4: do anytime they needed. I love my dogs. I'm very

990
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 4: looking forward to seeing them tonight.

991
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 2: To me, tonight, you're not wasting any time getting out of.

992
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 4: Time after work and then lots of family time. My

993
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: dad's actually going to come out back with me and

994
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 4: spend the week with me, and then that following weekend,

995
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 4: the rest of my family's going to join him and

996
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 4: come out here for the forty nine Ers game. I'm

997
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 4: hoping my nephew will wear his Kyler jersey because ever

998
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 4: since he wore for picture Day, he gets very confused

999
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 4: wearing it because it's not picturre day anymore, and it

1000
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: used to be his bird Gang jersey. And I got

1001
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: a text from my sister this morning actually saying that

1002
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 4: he's now calling it his Kyler jersey. So's he's picking

1003
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 4: up on things, which is good news.

1004
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: I'm going over to MC this golf tournament, Cardinals Alum

1005
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: Golf tournament. A few years ago, they took away my

1006
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: golf clubs and they gave me the pa MIC so

1007
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: I'm still trying to recover from that. But you know,

1008
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 2: when you go by the Moniker Polly three putt, that's

1009
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: what happens. So okay, we'll go over there. I'll try

1010
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 2: to get bare held by Michael Bankston and uh, you know,

1011
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: we'll see how that goes. And maybe I'll rip off

1012
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: a few jokes at Jay Feely's expense, you know, and

1013
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: uh and make a quick exit. I don't know, We'll

1014
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: see how it goes this year.

1015
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 4: Darren, are you taking any time off for the bye week?

1016
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: Please say yes, yes, yes, so he can coach some basketball.

1017
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: That's why he's going. It's his downtime. He gets his

1018
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: mental health coaching basketball, you.

1019
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: Know, not coaching watching my son's coach back.

1020
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you gotta coach up the coaches there

1021
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 2: you go, there you go, and that'll do it for

1022
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,640
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