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Michael vick Man, 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.640 pleasure man, Thank you for joining us. Thanks a legend 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:20.800 this is a legendary edition. 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.200 Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Yeah, appreciate it. 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.160 So we got the docu series dropping as far as 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.720 the evolution of the black quarterback, so we're going to 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:29.399 get into that. We're going to talk about the NFL. 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:32.120 We're going to talk about the finances. You know, this 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:33.840 is a financial I definitely want to tie in some 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.280 money because a lot has changed over the course of 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.679 the twenty years when it comes to quarterbacks and just 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:39.640 NFL in general. 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:41.840 But first and foremost, thank you for joining us. Appreciate 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.000 it man, Thank you. Man. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.360 I'm glad we ain't doing this at eight o'clock in 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:45.839 the morning. 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:52.320 Ten am. I can function a little bit eight. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:56.520 So yeah, man, them called the seven thirty makeup and 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.720 then seven forty five preps. 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:02.440 All that I go through that enough on Sunday mornings 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:02.960 at Fox. 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:04.279 That's a fact. That's a fact. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.520 So let's talk about it. Let's let's talk about the series. 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:07.800 How did you get involved in it? 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:14.880 Yeah, well, uh, I got involved because for one, you know, 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.440 me and my wife and we out or when I'm 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:19.760 out with anybody, any of my friends, people always come 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.800 to me and be like, you know, you change the game, man, 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.360 And I mean and rightfully so for the you know, 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:28.600 I understand, you know where they're getting at, and and 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:31.400 a part of me believe that you change the game. 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:35.080 Would I always be like, man, you ever seen Charlie Water, 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.040 You ever seen Warren Morning? 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:37.960 You ever seen this? 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:43.639 And the answer was always no, Nah, you know, go 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:47.640 google him and you know, get some into And after 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.280 a while it was like my wife who she produces, 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.240 and she she's involved in production and got her own 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:54.400 share of production going on. 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.440 She's like, yo, you should produce a doc where you 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:58.320 just sit down. 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.399 With all these quarterbacks that you a mayas so much 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.239 since you're telling all these people that you didn't revolutionize 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.399 the game or you had some part in revolutionizing the game, 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:11.120 and you know, just being honest, you want to pay homage. 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.600 And so this was all about paying homage and really, uh, 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:20.320 you know, just resurfacing the history of the quarterback position, 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:25.200 black quarterbacks in general. How hard we you know, we 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.280 had to work a little harder over the years to 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.320 try to put ourselves in a position and you know 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.519 what I'm saying, be a leader for a franchise, and 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.760 I just always felt like it was something that needed 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.320 to be done, celebrating the league, celebrating how far we've 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.080 come and the opportunities that's been given to us, because 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.400 you know, we all took full advantage of it, got 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:47.080 the opportunity. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:51.400 As you're careating the documentary and doing it, I wonder 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:55.480 at a certain point when you obviously know the history. 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:56.960 Yeah, and I've taken a lot of flak. 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.920 I'm a Washington fan because of eighty seven and Doug Williams, 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.160 the communitists. 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:02.600 For the Commanders. 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:06.760 Now as you're watching it, you're starting to hear people 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.440 say that your the reason that they played football. So 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:13.120 now when you're talking to Cam, you're talking to Jalen, 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.640 you're talking to Pat Mahomes, Right. 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.080 How does that make you feel? Right? 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.320 Because you're saying, like, these guys are the guy that 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.159 they you should watch, And that's ain't like, no, you're 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:24.120 the guy that we watch. 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:30.960 It's certainly a great level of gratitude and appreciation because 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:32.920 I know you got to have a role model, Like 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.320 my role model was Steve Young. I was always looking 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.880 at the NFL, and you know, trying to figure out 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.240 who I could pattern my game after who looked like me. 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:44.599 You know, that guy just happened to be a white 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.800 quarterback who was left handed. They be like, yeah, so 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.960 you know Cam and Jalen and Dak, they was all 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:55.000 fortunate to have guys like myself, and you know Donovan 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:59.640 McNabb and you know Jeff Blake and you know Steve McNair. 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.480 You know, these guys were, you know, very influential in 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:07.080 our lives and watched everything they do step for step 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.680 or they did step for step and just wanted to 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.040 emulate what they brung to the field. So to hit 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:18.920 them say that, it's really an honor because I didn't 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:23.200 play the game in the beginning to be a role model. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.800 And I'll be honest about that. I didn't understand that concept. 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:28.680 I was just trying to be the best quarterback that 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:33.760 I could be. But you know, as you grow older 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.440 and you started to meet people, and you start to 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:40.080 have football camps, and you know guys like Malik Willis 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.160 who came through my camps and you see watch them 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:43.280 ball yesterday. 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:43.560 For Green Bay. 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.360 It's like, damn, you know, we really influenced the generation 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.760 that come behind us. So you know, I I'm glad 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.120 I was able to embrace it as I got older, 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:56.200 And you know, it goes to show that these guys 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.279 watched us and they followed us and they're doing it 0:05:58.320 --> 0:05:58.800 the right way. 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:03.599 Talk about the evolution, and you know, previously a black 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:07.039 quarterback was an anomaly. Most of the quarterbacks were white, 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:11.040 and there was racial undertones for that as far as 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.880 quarterback is the leader of the team, seen as the 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:19.040 most intelligent person a coach on the field. So that 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.560 was a stereotype for a long time. And then it 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.680 was when black quarterbacks actually did become more popular, it 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:27.919 was only seen as like, well, they'd have to be 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:32.000 a super athletic, right, But now we're seeing a wife 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.080 or right. Some quarterbacks are super athletics, some are not 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.760 as athletics, Some can throw, some run. So talk about 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.039 like from you growing up as a kid to you 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:47.680 being an NFL analyst now, the evolution of how the 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.120 game has looked at the black quarterback. 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:55.400 No doubt. As a kid, always heard story is about 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:59.280 the NFL being so complex, like the offense is are 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.839 hard to learn, and you know, you know it was 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.320 always this stereotype that you know, maybe we couldn't pick 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.920 the system up fast enough. I know, you know, it 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.440 was something that scared me and made me kind of 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.840 deterred me from wanting to pursue playing quarterback. And that's 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:17.880 why I started out at running back. You know, I'm 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.480 not really trying to get into that. You know, I'm 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.240 a young man and I'm hearing all these things and 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.600 I'm like, that's going to derail my chances of making it. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.320 And you know, I just I had a coach that 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:31.680 you know, believed in me, kept pushing me in and 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.040 like spent a lot of years feeling like I was 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.880 playing a quarterback position for no reason that at some 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:41.520 point I would my position would change. And you know, 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.240 I wasted all this time trying to become a quarterback 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:48.920 and the best quarterback that I could be, and you know, 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.120 it was just it was it was really tough on 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.640 my mental my mental health as far as like you know, 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.680 when you're a kid and you expiring to be something, 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.280 you only get to do that once and it's not 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.480 like that like that don't fluctuate, that don't change like 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:04.360 one day I want to. 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:05.840 Be a professional football player. 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.400 In the next day, I want to be a professional 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.920 basketball player. The next week now you know, I'm gonna 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:12.440 change and I want to be a doctor. You know, 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:16.640 it don't work like you know, we we be like 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.440 like focused on like what it's going to take to 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.880 achieve that. And so I'm hearing all these stereotypes as 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.920 I get older, and I'm really like shook up about it, 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:27.600 Like damn, man, I don't. 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:28.840 Know which way to go in my life. 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.480 And you know, drafts, you know, I'm starting to see 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.960 more black quarterbacks into the league here and there, and 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:40.880 I'm like, okay, it's only about three or four of them. 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:45.360 Might even if that, Like I wonder how complex these 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:49.160 offenses are? So part of you know, so stop just 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:53.160 stopping right there. I was like and making this doc 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:56.800 a part of me wanted to find out, like back 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.360 in you know, the seventies, was the offense is really 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:03.440 that complay X where a black quarterback couldn't really understand it, 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:07.920 you know, a Marlin Brisco or Jefferson Street Joe. Was 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:12.320 it really so sophisticated that they couldn't lead and they 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.120 couldn't compartmentalize all. 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.079 These things and run a team. 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:21.360 And so those questions I wanted to get answered in 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.520 this dock. I feel like it's still a lot left 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:27.880 to talk about from a standpoint of just gaining an 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.520 understanding of how we got to this point, because now 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:37.680 you know those offense League Willis, but Malik Willis got 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.680 was with Tennessee and a different obviously a different offense 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:42.320 than Green Bay. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:43.640 He goes to Green Bay. 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:48.120 Two weeks ago, three weeks ago, he picks this system up. 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.320 In three weeks he goes out and win two games 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:51.000 in two weeks. 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:52.480 Well, how complex is it from? 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.520 Because I always I played basketball my whole life, and 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.600 to me, football was a lot more complicated than complex. 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.079 And that's one of the reason why and stop playing football, 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.160 because it was you gotta really love it to really 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.120 get into the schemes and all of that. And then 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.320 you see these quarterbacks with these things on their arm 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:09.160 and then violence. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:16.360 He left that part out and is violent. That's that's amazing. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:18.240 But I try not to say that because I don't 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:18.760 like try to. 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.800 So, But how how hard is it to act from 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:24.560 from a mental standpoint to master that? 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:28.640 Because it's like a college course in sense it takes time. 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.960 I will say that, and I'm gonna continue the reference 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:35.360 Miliite because he's just like fresh on my mind. Malik 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:40.880 goes from Tennessee to Green Bay and it takes him 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:45.040 maybe two weeks. They probably condensed it down, couldn't give 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.680 him the whole playbook. He got a smart coach choose 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.199 catering to his talents and you know, I'm not going 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:51.760 to throw the whole playbook at. 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:55.560 You all in one in two weeks and it helped. 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:59.920 But those offenses take learning a new offense at least 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.199 three and a half months. I say, before you can 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:06.920 be comfortable going out in the field of executing without 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.520 giving the game away, doing interceptions or putting the ball 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:16.400 in harm's way. And so you know, all these things 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:21.120 got to come together, and it just creates anxiety. You know, 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.480 when you're not comfortable. When you're comfortable and you know 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:27.000 what you're doing, it's a lot easier. And so I 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:31.040 will say this quarterbacks now when they come into the league, 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:35.120 they've worked for so many years with quarterback coaches and 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.840 went to all these camps and like Mlik Willis came 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.840 to my camp in twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:46.360 won the MVP. He was transferred from Auburn, and so 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.600 I'm not taking any credit for what but understanding like 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.640 he got off good tootlage that day. You know what 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.079 I'm saying From a mental standpoint, I remember talking to 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:58.800 him about, you know, while he was transferring and like 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.920 his quarterback journey because you know, usually when it guy transferring, 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:02.679 something's not right. 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.840 He ended up at Memphis, he ended up at Liberty, Liberty, Liberty, 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.440 and why he killed it. He killed it at Liberty, 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:09.600 and then it was so on and so far. 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:11.360 The supposed to be in the first round pick winning 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.680 the third, but you know, you see first round talent. 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:16.440 So this this is interesting because we could stay with 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:20.760 Elik because yes, he grasped the system and they condensed it. 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.280 But he's playing behind Jordan Love. Yeah, when you talk 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.120 about Jordan Love, you talk about c. J. Stroud, You're 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:31.480 talking about Jay and Daniels Now with Commanders. As I'm watching, 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:36.320 I thought another guy was about Jay. I'm watching this 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.360 and I'm thinking to myself and maybe you feel this way. 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.160 I feel like you're the most important black quarterback in 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.760 the history of the NFL. Eighty seven is important Doug Williams, 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:48.640 but we watched him growing up. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.960 Yeah, as you you talk about the Super. 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.240 Bowl two years ago, we would ask you at the 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.720 game jailing versus pat first time two black quarterbacks are 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:57.719 playing together in the Super Bowl against each other in 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.280 the Super Bowl. That was cool, a culminated moment. You're 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.360 looking at the league. Almost every division has a starting 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:07.679 black quarterback, most of Lamar winning two MVPs. That's all 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.600 after you played. Yeah, as you're doing it and you're 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.719 coming to completion, are you are you start? Because I 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.040 think somebody referenced it like you are the most important? 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:16.200 Do you feel that way? 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:21.160 I'm starting to and I'm embracing it, especially after this 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:25.360 quarterback series, And haven't these conversations with all these guys 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:29.520 who we all went through our fair chef the now 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:34.000 trial and tribulation and came out on the other side 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.320 of it, some a little more worse than others. I 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:42.000 feel like through my quarterback journey, it was only one 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.520 or two moments where I felt like. 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:47.400 I might have been stereotype. 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.800 But that might have come from some of my own people, 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:56.959 of my color, black people, And it was weird, you 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:58.439 know what I'm saying. Never had a really had a 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.559 white coach tell me like Yo, you to change your position. 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:04.640 So I felt like I came up in a different 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:08.079 era where the belief was there at the time where 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.439 it was changing a little bit because of a lot 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.600 of these coaches who coached College Boy. They were seeing 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:18.360 Kevin McDougall and Donovan McNabb and they was Charlie Ward. 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:23.840 So from a collegiate standpoint, Yo, you can do it 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:27.920 right here. Next level, you know it's going to take 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:32.840 some decision making, and then you know, the higher ups administration, owners, 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:37.360 general managers, coaches got to make that decision in the NFL. 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.880 And in part of doing this doc as I thought 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.000 through it, because I felt like, you know, you had to. 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.000 It took critical thinking that you just can't make an 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.920 evolution of the black quarterback series and not have merit 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.400 behind it why you're doing it. And so I really 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:58.920 feel like owners, general managers, the commissioner over the years, 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:03.520 Paul tag Libu, Roger Goodell, they all had a major 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.200 part in the evolution of the game in the quarterback 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:10.360 position and why we got so many dual threats because 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.400 they had to make those decisions, y'all. I trust you, 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.200 Jayden Dames, I trust you jaylen Hurst. I trust you, 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:16.480 Mike Vick. I trust you. 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:21.280 But then also I feel like, so this parallels from 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.480 you coming from Newport News and somebody else coming from 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:25.040 Newport News. 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:26.560 You number seven, somebody number three. 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:31.960 His part as what he did is you revolutionized it 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.640 from a hip hop perspective too, Like even when you 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.440 were in Virginia Tech and I felt like there was 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.640 other black quarterbacks before that, but you put the stamp 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.560 for like hip hop culture, going to Atlanta, being in 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.960 t I's video and swag. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.200 And that's the same Like Ai kind of was the 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:50.680 same tool. 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:52.360 Like as far as what he did to the league, 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.160 he obviously wasn't the first black superstar, but he's the 0:15:55.160 --> 0:16:00.000 first one with the tattoos, the corn rolls, the baggy clothes. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.320 Was like then that ushered into hip hop era. So 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.880 what about how you feel about that as far as 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.400 you bringing in that wave of hip hop. 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.360 Culture for the for the black quarterback position. 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.520 One that started with Alan. You know what I'm saying. 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:18.520 Alan was big bro. So we all watched for Alan. 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.080 You know, I'm growing up. Yeah, he was a hell 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:21.640 of a quarterback. Yeah, he was a great quarterbacks. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:25.880 Player the Year, Yeah, Player of the Year basketball and 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:27.400 then when he went through what he went through, it 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.640 was like a really dark time for me because I 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.920 was like following his every move and then he come back, 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.600 he do all these amazing things, and you know, now 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:41.240 he's just cultural icon, big brother, uh, somebody that we 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.560 can look up to and somebody that we can the 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:45.520 strive to be like. 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:47.680 And so that was really cool. 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.960 And it's all right to have a guy like Alan, 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.720 you know what I'm saying, represent Virginia, you know what 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.600 I'm saying, and show its mad love at the same time. 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.800 So a lot of what I did from a cultural standpoint, 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:04.080 I following you know, a big bro. And you know, 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:05.800 it was just it was a great moment in a 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:10.199 great time in sports. You know who whatever thought it 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.879 looked like I said, it was entertainment, bro. Like what 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.720 I A big reason why people gravitated to me and 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:21.119 Island is because we. 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:22.520 We did it different. We did it at a faster pace. 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.120 We made it look cool while we was doing it, 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:30.159 even though that's super hard like it was. But that's 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.320 you know, the type of you know intensity we brung 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.640 to the game, the love we brung to the game. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.720 You can't be great at anything if you don't love it. Yeah, 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.680 and so I love football from the bottom of my heart. 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.600 From the time I got selected by Atlanta It My 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.760 love for the game just grew. When I was at 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:50.280 Virginia Tech, I was learning to play quarterback and learning 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.919 how to you know, lead a football team, you know, 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.720 from the time to be kicked off until the time 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:57.560 the game was over. 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.960 Do you realize did you realize that in real time? Though? 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.879 Like, yo, I'm the one that's pushing the culture forward 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:09.280 in this position or is it just happening organically organically? 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.960 I couldn't see it. I didn't realize it. 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:14.920 But you know, I was a kid from Newport News, 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:19.240 Virginia who didn't come up with anything. My mom did 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.520 the best she could, my dad did the best she could. 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:27.000 And it wasn't a life where I just had everything 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:28.840 I wanted or what I wanted it to be. Like 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.240 like I had family members who had everything, and you know, 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.520 I used to have to go to their house and 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.479 we had to go there to eat and play with 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:40.879 his my cousin's toys, and it was just a you know, togetherness, 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.959 you know what I'm saying. But I felt like I 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.719 was always in a state where I was probably just 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.639 a little bit hungrier literally than everybody around me. You 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.919 know what I'm saying, Not necessarily my friends, but you know, 0:18:54.960 --> 0:19:00.879 sometimes family. But that's what made me dream hard, and 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:02.520 that's what made me want to go for that goal. 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:04.840 And man, I was growing up. 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:06.800 Like at least I'm gonna shoot for the stars and 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:08.320 if I miss, I'm amongst them. 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:10.560 Leave it at that, you know what I'm saying. Last 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:14.199 question before you answer Nuggert? How good was Could he 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:15.919 have made it to the NBA to the NFL? Of 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:17.760 course he could have made the NFL as a quarterback. 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:19.119 He would have to walk up a little bit, he 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.119 had to put on some weight because Alan, he's not 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:25.199 the biggest. But I mean as far as athleticism, he 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:26.320 could have played any position. 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:28.800 He could throw like, yeah he was. Was he faster 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.760 than you want to field? Yeah, it's faster than Yeah, 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:33.320 he was a fellow. 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.879 I was more quick than fast Alan just Allen just 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.399 had that long speed and he was quick like he 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.480 had everything. So without a doubt, like he would have. 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.600 I envisioned him looking like Charlie Ward in college. 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:47.000 That's a sensitive topic. 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:52.880 Man, Yeah, shot at the f s U. I want 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:54.600 to talk about the importance of the city of Atlanta, 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:59.360 because that I mean, obviously black city. You were coming 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:04.200 in with a news of play, Dan Reeves being your coach, different. 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:04.480 Style of play. 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.919 This guy just coached John Elway, right, that that's what 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:08.480 he's known for. 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:09.879 Then he has a new number seven. 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.720 Talk about the role of the city of Atlanta embracing 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.200 you that number seven, which I think should be retired. 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:19.560 There's two numbers I think should be retired in Falcons history. 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:22.040 One for sure, Yeah, talk about the role that the 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:24.960 city played in embracing you and getting catapulting you to 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.680 a superstar stass. But now you got to shoe you 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.040 a cover guy on Madden, which was a cheek coode. 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:33.479 But talk about that. I mean, everything I did was 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:37.320 to please the city. From the time I got selected. 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.080 Five minutes later, I'm saying to myself, Oh, I can't 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:46.800 let this city down. They're yearning for a star quarterback, 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:50.240 not just a star quarterback. I take that back for 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:54.399 some success. You know, my first game in the Georgia 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:58.480 Dome at the time, we had about twenty thousand fans 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:02.720 in the stadium, and I'm looking around like, somehow, some. 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:04.120 Way, this's got to change. Obviously. 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:07.520 Arthur Blank was, you know, a genius from a business perspective, 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:11.200 so he made it so that people wanted to come 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.760 to the games. And you know, when he purchased the 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.680 team in two thousand and one, he marketed the right way. 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:20.360 He was able to, you know, lord the ticket prices 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:23.040 and bring people in so we could feel the stadium 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:26.360 for one. Then once the stadium got for him, like nah, 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:30.800 I just I can't disappoint. And the city meant so 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.160 much because of the pressure that I put. 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:34.760 On myself to please the fans. 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:38.600 And you know, I just took it upon myself, man, 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:43.160 to do everything possible, even though it was tough, man, 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:46.600 because you know, when you line up behind that center 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:49.680 and that ball is hiked on that first play, man, 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:52.679 you just got to brace up, believe in your study, 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:56.399 believe in your in what you see, and be a 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:57.120 man back there. 0:21:57.240 --> 0:21:57.800 You know what I'm saying. 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:01.600 That's why I try not to, you know, scrutinized and 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:04.239 chastise the quarterbacks now because I can relate to what 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:06.120 they're going through. I know how hard it is, and 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:08.560 you know, that's why we celebrate the ones who win 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:11.520 on a consistent basis, like like the Lamars and like 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:17.000 the Patricks because it's tough. But you know, uh, Dan 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:21.400 Reeves was amazing. It was the only coach that I 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:23.920 told myself growing up, I didn't want to listens a 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:26.840 little different because I used to watch him as a kid, 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:28.920 and John Elway was one of my favorites. That's why 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:31.800 I could fluctuate when I'm eight seven, You know what 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:34.320 I'm saying, like these quarterbacks that could move like me, 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:36.080 that I was watching them like I want to be 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:39.280 like him. So Dan Reeves used to always just get 0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:42.040 into John's ass. I'm talking about all the time. If 0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:44.600 you go back and watch old clips, he he I mean, 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:46.959 he lit ding up, probably bring the best out of him. 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:51.360 And I used to tell myself, God, if I get 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:56.760 drafted any team, don't let it be Dan Reeves. And 0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:58.960 he ended up drafting me. But it was the best 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:00.520 thing to happen to me because he knew what to 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:00.919 do with me. 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:01.760 He knew how to. 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.480 You know, when I got to a point where I 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:07.800 was like riding too high, you knew how to bring 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.600 me back down. And he was certainly one of the 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:12.920 coaches that I respect more than anything. 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:16.280 And he made me. 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:20.920 Afraid to fail, you'd be afraid to fail. And I 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:23.680 always never wanted to let him down. So we're talking 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:24.840 about black quarterbacks. 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.600 There is a certain political aspect that we got to 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:33.920 talk about Colin Kaepernick. Yeah, taking a stand, well taking 0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:37.360 a knee actually, and that that was a major thing. 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:40.920 And as a quarterback, he was the leader of the team. 0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:45.680 And so what what how do you feel looking back 0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:48.520 on this whole situation now that is over with and 0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:52.080 in retrospect, how do you how do you feel about 0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:56.960 that situation from his perspective how or and also the 0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:58.000 NFL's perspective. 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.000 Yeah, I feel like Colin did what he felt was right, 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:03.800 and he took a stance for a lot of people. 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:10.000 He used his platform to bring awareness to what he 0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:13.440 believed in. Whether people felt like, you know, it was 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:16.119 the right platform to do it on or not, that 0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:18.720 was his perspective and that's what he wanted to do 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:24.600 free will in this world. The NFL stands like, I 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:28.919 don't know, you know, what they you know, established or 0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:31.640 what they felt like was right or wrong in regards 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:35.320 to it. I've watched it like everybody else and wanted 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:36.960 to see what the outcome was gonna be what the 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:40.119 conclusion was, I'm going to turn out to be because 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:43.639 it was a unique moment in sports. I think Colin 0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:46.720 realized that. I think the NFL realized that. I think 0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:51.920 on all levels, everybody just wanted some form of respect, 0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.040 from the NFL to Colin. 0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:56.520 To just people abroad. 0:24:56.600 --> 0:25:00.959 I think everybody wanted, you know, this situation to have 0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:01.960 a positive outcome. 0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:03.399 But I think at the end of. 0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:06.159 The day, it was all about respect, everybody respecting one 0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:11.320 another decision that was being made. And so in talking 0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:15.760 to Colin, I know, you know, he's happy and that 0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:16.480 he stood up. 0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.680 He's happy that he took a stance for. 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.840 A lot of people, and you know a lot of 0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:26.520 people appreciate that. 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He's in 0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:22.199 the shout to donvd McNabb at the time, he's the 0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:26.240 star of the team and I'm wondering, obviously he's in 0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.800 the documentary and y'all seem like y'all have a good relationship. 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.240 Yeah, was it always like that when you got there? 0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.960 Because I'm looking at it, it's like, this is a 0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:35.560 superstar who's coming into the team. 0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:39.720 I'm the quarterback. He's the only here to take my job. 0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:43.080 Really Yeah, well, I don't think Donovan looked at it 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:44.880 as if I was coming to take his job. 0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:49.439 Donovan, Andy, they just embraced me in that moment. 0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:53.800 Donovan, he knew that I grew up idolizing him and 0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:57.040 wanting to be Donovan McNabb. The nineteen ninety nine draft, 0:26:57.040 --> 0:27:02.280 as you heard in the dock, was so inspirational to 0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:06.639 me because that made me feel like I could make it. 0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:11.200 And when I seen Donovan go because I watched everything 0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:14.040 Donovan did in college and something like he couldn't do 0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:15.760 no wrong in my eyes, and he really didn't do 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:21.199 any wrong, and so he knew that he was one 0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:21.840 of my favorites. 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:26.240 It was just kind of screwed up that we had 0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:27.720 to face each other. 0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.359 And so when you have to face somebody in the 0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:34.800 league or in any competition, it becomes a rival you 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:37.600 know what I'm saying. Becomes a rivalry. And you know, 0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:40.440 it didn't stop the love that I had for him. 0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:42.000 It just made me want to beat him. And once 0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:46.880 I got to Philadelphia, I was like, man, look, it's 0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:48.800 an honor to be in the same room with you, 0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.840 to share some of the same football stories and to 0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:56.399 talk football with you and gain the understanding Donovan he 0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:59.120 knew a lot about the game from what he learned 0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.760 from Andy. I was just like in the room just 0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:04.720 soaking up everything because I'm like, this is gonna be 0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:06.960 a good situation for me because I can expand my 0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:12.119 football knowledge. And after listening to Donovan talk for you know, 0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.959 the first week, I'm like, I see why he's a 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:16.400 future Hall of Famer. 0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.600 I was always a little envious. 0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:22.720 In a good way of Donovan and Andy because Andy 0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:24.160 used to let Donovan throw that day. 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.880 You know what I'm saying, Oh, three h four five. 0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:28.440 You know what I'm saying. 0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:32.679 Donovan led the league in a lot of statistical categories, yes, 0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:33.480 and so. 0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.680 You know he learned a lot along the way. 0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:39.520 And big credit to Andy Reid for being in you 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:42.400 know that the mentor in his football journey. 0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:45.040 You ended up beating him a lot. Actually they got 0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:45.840 beat him twice. 0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:47.680 Yeah, he went to he always got me in the 0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.360 uh in the playoffs, he went to Washington. 0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:51.320 Yeah. 0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:55.320 I never forgot again, and uh, I never forget. It 0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:57.320 was the first game of the season, Monday night football. 0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.360 I think it's the first year you're starting, just signed 0:28:59.360 --> 0:28:59.959 a new contract. 0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:00.520 It's you. 0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:04.400 It's shady and y'all got to Sean Jackson. Yeah, yeah, 0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:06.680 they first first played a game. They paid Donovan right 0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:08.960 before the game, like, well, you lucky. I was on 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:10.480 the ground then I was hungry. 0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:11.600 You know what I'm saying. 0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.600 I was coming back from coming back from prison, and 0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:18.880 I was first coming off injury. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:22.640 I know my financial state, So I was back in 0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.880 that mold. I was like in Virginia Tech move where 0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:26.120 I was just trying to get it again. 0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:32.680 It ain't nothing like going through that process of you know, when. 0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:37.000 You you're striving to be great, when you got so much 0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:41.720 to play for. I wish, you know, once you know 0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.040 I got the contract, I would have kept that airs 0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:45.800 and I did, I you know, for the most part. 0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:49.800 But it was so exhausting to get back to that point. 0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.320 You don't have to go on to prison for two years, 0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.479 coming back, sitting for a year, that's three years out 0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:58.400 of football, then come back and you get it all back, 0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:00.720 and then you know, you got to keep that edge, 0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:02.920 keep that edge as things started to change around you. 0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:06.400 People started to change. They wanted Andy out of Philly, 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.800 you know, and I love Andy the death. So my 0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.000 heart was like torn. I'm like, how could this great 0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:14.640 city not want this great man? But you know, all 0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:18.880 good things come to an end, and you know, it's 0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.080 just a lot of circumstances and that led to me 0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:21.800 leaving Philly. 0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:23.280 But man, it was some of the best years of 0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:23.680 my life. 0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:26.240 When I think back, I see pictures, man, and I 0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.880 just have a great sense of gratitude for that era. 0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:34.680 So from a financial sting point, so Dak Prescott. You 0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:38.040 just signed the biggest contract in history on another black quarterback. Yes, 0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.680 so two hundred and thirty that congratulations, two hundred and 0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.960 thirty one million dollars guaranteed eighty million dollars signing bonus. 0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:49.360 So the guaranteed aspect is interesting because you had one 0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:52.480 hundred and thirty eight million dollar contract with the Falcons, 0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:56.360 but only thirty seven million was guaranteed. So before, previously 0:30:56.560 --> 0:31:00.240 a lot football contracts were not guaranteed, notoriously for four 0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:02.960 contracts were not guaranteed. But now we're seeing more and 0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:09.680 more fully guaranteed, almost fully guaranteed NFL contracts, And that 0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.360 is a big difference because I mean you're talking about 0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:16.120 in that situation, almost eighty percent of your contract was 0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:18.000 not guaranteed. So people will see the number like you 0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:20.080 got one hundred million, but it's like, okay, well the 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:22.000 incentives if you get hurt, if you don't make it 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:24.080 to the Pro Bowl, and then by the time it 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.360 equals out, you might not you might get paid twenty 0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:31.800 percent of that. So talk about when understanding that when 0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:35.160 you first signed that contract, and how the evolution has 0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:35.880 changed now. 0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.320 Yeah, Well, the only thing that matters in the contract 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:43.440 is the fully guaranteed. The rest of it being center 0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.720 based is just fluff. That's those are agents that y'all 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.000 make this contract. One hundred and two hundred and twenty 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.920 million for my foot, that's for the brand. You know, 0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.960 what we as players see is the fully guaranteed. 0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:56.360 So it might be you. 0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.360 Know, two hundred million, but not for guys now, one 0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:01.160 hundred and ten million fully guaranteed. 0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:02.160 It's still a lot of money. 0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.640 So when I signed my contract, it was one hundred 0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:11.200 and twenty million, thirty seven million fully guaranteed, but or 0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:12.160 thirty four or whatever. 0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.160 But that was in two thousand and four. You know, 0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:17.600 it's twenty twenty four. 0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:24.000 It's twenty years later, salary caps throwing up inflation. You know, 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:27.680 business is growing around the league, and owners are getting richer, 0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.200 and you know, you gotta pay players a lot more. 0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:32.640 And so that's just the era we are in now, 0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:36.240 and guys are fortunate. You know, ten years from now, 0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:38.800 the fully guarantees might be two hundred million. 0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.520 I mean, DeShawn wasn't far from now, yeah, I mean. 0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.040 That's where how was the pressure was headed When you 0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.760 signed one hundred million dollars deal, you were still young. 0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:51.160 So I'm assuming there was a lot of pressure because 0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.240 people look at it like, you got a hundred million dollars, right, 0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:55.440 So how was that signing that one hundred million dollars 0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.720 deal but then only actually having thirty seven guaranteed. 0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:00.880 Pressure when I signed my first contract. Because my first 0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:05.640 contract was like, uh, it's a rookie. 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We've got our first signing bonus, 0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:30.239 and once we've seen it and we knew we had 0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.720 to account for it, you know, we got to revamp 0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.480 our game plan for longevity. We was always I was 0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:39.799 always thinking long term to make sure that when I 0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:44.239 did retire, that I retired in a good state. And 0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.920 so even as a rookie when my signing bonus was 0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.000 three million, when I got to three million, it was 0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:53.359 at one point now and I'm like, oh, man, yeah, 0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.920 I got to get to that next contract if I 0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:59.560 want to, you know, live the life I want to 0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.799 live when I retired. This at twenty years old, but 0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.200 I'm thinking retirement in ten years. You don't know if 0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.160 you're gonna get that second contract. You don't know how 0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:09.359 good you're gonna be. You don't know if you're gonna 0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:12.239 be a bus or it's just the unknown, and you know, 0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:13.040 people fear that. 0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.879 I know, so it was fear there. 0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:17.480 But I was like, yo, if I just take care 0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:20.360 of my finances, then I don't have to worry about 0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:22.600 what I do on the field. I can just perform. 0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:27.399 And so fast forward to two thousand and four. When 0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:30.320 I got that contract, I was in a good state. 0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:33.360 I think I had about five million saved up just 0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:35.080 from all league you know what I'm saying, from three 0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:38.600 years of playing and buy my mama house and kind 0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:40.640 of you know, taking care of myself and my family. 0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.359 And then I got the big contract, and so right 0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:47.960 then and now I was like, Okay, financially I'm set, 0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:51.080 you know. Now it's about making the right choices investing 0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:52.839 and making the money grow. 0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:54.640 So that's still in Atlanta. 0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:57.839 But then in Philly you get are you the first 0:37:57.840 --> 0:37:59.800 player to get two one hundred million dollar contracts? 0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.600 You are the first man? I guess, too big signing. 0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:06.680 So like, explain what the contract is? Yeah, you want 0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:08.880 to call it one hundred yeah? 0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:12.799 Yeah, well paper, So the Atlanta one sets you up 0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:16.520 right financially you're secure? Yeah, the Philly one, now are 0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:19.279 you looking at it differently? Like all right, now it's 0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:22.120 time to sit down and figure out what the investments 0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:22.719 are going to look like. 0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:23.960 Yeah. After I get up the. 0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:27.600 Field, Philly contract was more so I was in the 0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:31.560 bankruptcy at the time from coming out of prison. I 0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:33.360 still don't know how that happened, but yeah, I was 0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.160 in the bankruptcy coming out coming out of prison, and 0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:40.680 so now you know, I'm there's more money that's been 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.040 It's not just paying taxes. Now you got you know, 0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:46.359 a whole nother burell that you gotta pay. So now 0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:49.040 I'm really cracking down on the finances, like all right, bo, 0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:52.440 I'm looking at when I I can sustain that's okay, 0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:58.120 that's that's feasible. And then you know, like I say, 0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:01.319 Philadelphia gave me the contract and I was thankful, Like 0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.160 they knew the state that I was in. They knew 0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.960 that I was grinded and trying to get back. And 0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:07.719 that's why some people, man, you just got to be 0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.680 so thankful for him could because they didn't have to 0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:17.560 do that. I earned it. But you know, Andy not 0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:20.640 saying he gave it to me or they wanted you 0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:22.799 need to be financially free. 0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:24.680 You knew the state I was in. I talked to 0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:25.560 Andy about everything. 0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:27.160 He knew what was going on in my life from 0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:30.879 A to Z, and so to be able to get 0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:32.839 that at the time, it was like, all right, man, 0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:35.520 I work hard for this. I just got to make 0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:38.520 sure I take care of it because you know, I'm 0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:40.680 busting it down. You know what I'm saying, It's getting 0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:41.920 busted down in thirds. 0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:46.640 But what's also new in the NFL is equity and ownership. Yeah. 0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:50.160 Is that something that you've ever thought that or looking 0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:52.600 forward to? Obviously the Falcons just did it. They had 0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:56.919 a small group because people don't realize enough for the franchises. 0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.440 Have been here for a long time. Yeah. Giants are 0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:00.359 celebrating one hundred years. Yeah. 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.440 I just looked at the purchase price in nineteen twenty three. 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:08.080 They were purchased for five hundred dollars. Five hundred dollars. 0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:10.640 The Commanders would just hold for six point two billion. 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:12.879 Yeah. The Giants are valued probably more than that. 0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:15.200 And so if they never sell the team, then they 0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.759 never really have the liquidation events yep. And so they're 0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:19.560 tarning to take equity to do it. Yeah, so you 0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.520 signed to see that now. Is that something that you 0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:24.880 think about ownership inside of a team? 0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:27.080 I would love to you know what I'm saying. I 0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:32.520 think that's another way to build financial wealth. But you 0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:34.040 got in line with the right people and the right 0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:37.960 partners at the right time. One of my good friends 0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.759 who's affiliated with the Lanta Falcons. Got a percentage and 0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:46.239 got a piece. But you know, that's not something that 0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:49.000 I'm looking for. It's not something that I wake up 0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.040 and say, you know this, this is what I want 0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:53.880 to set my you know, set my heart out to do. 0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:58.000 If it happens, it happens, if the opportunity presents itself. 0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:02.000 There are other entities that I got an opportunity to 0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:06.319 be involved in. From a financial standpoint, that can be 0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:09.920 a really good situation. Some some things is coming in Atlanta. 0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:13.840 So right now, I'm just really in a good state, uh, 0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:16.520 you know, just with the people that that I'm centering 0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:19.160 around and the relationships that I have. And I think 0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:22.640 as you get older, that's really important to surround yourself 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:24.000 with the right people who can help you on a 0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:27.840 day to day basis make decisions and put you in 0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.680 the right situations that's gonna be beneficial for you. 0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.880 So, from a financial standpoint, what's your advice to players, 0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:36.960 because a lot of there's a lot of hard stories 0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.839 as far as people getting robbed by their accountings, financial advisors, 0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:45.640 making bad decisions. The list goes on from different maybe 0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:47.799 mom that they got to pay child support and not 0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:51.799 fully understanding how contracts work, spending too much money, bad 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:54.319 real estate deals. I'm sure you've probably seen it all. 0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:58.439 So what what's your advice to players as far as 0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:03.440 you know, avoiding falls that athletes have been prone to 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:03.959 fall into. 0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:05.640 Yeah, my advice is that. 0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:09.080 You know, you know how to count, you know how 0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:12.840 to do audition and subtraction, and keep it that simple. 0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:17.080 If there's an investment that you want to get involved in, 0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:23.040 I say, you know, just perceive a caution and don't 0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:24.000 overwhelm yourself. 0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:28.920 Don't be thrown around millions of dollars. You know. 0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:31.920 Uh God comes and says, oh yeah, were about to 0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:36.560 you know, build this uh duplex over here, and it 0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:37.600 costs five million. 0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:39.879 We need a million dollars. Now, how about I give 0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:40.759 you two hundred. 0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:44.799 Thousand dollars first and let me and or introduce me 0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:47.640 to the investment group or the people that's involved. How 0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:51.880 we how we gonna you know, financially buy this property, 0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.040 you know, make sure that they can fully function and 0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:57.880 then also get a return. You know, you got to 0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:01.120 ask questions, but sometimes you ask questions and you get 0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.640 the answers that people want to give you if they 0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:05.400 know you naive and they know you don't know, then 0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:08.360 they can tell you anything. And so you got to 0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.160 read the room. And that's why I say in the beginning, 0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:15.040 don't go invest in millions of dollars. Like I gave 0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:18.560 a financial advisor eight million dollars when I was in Atlanta. 0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:23.399 I gave it to him because I had a lot 0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:27.000 and I wanted to grow it. And he took it 0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:29.000 and pretty much put it into what he wanted to 0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:33.040 put it into. And then when I was going through 0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:37.320 a rough time and I had to liquidate because of 0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:40.279 the trouble, I got in to pay back, you know, 0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:44.640 creditors to whoever wasn't I couldn't look with it. I 0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:47.239 couldn't find them, couldn't lick with they did. I'm just 0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:49.160 forced to file bankrupt. 0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:51.319 What was it put in? Like a real estate deal? 0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:53.160 It was in a big real estate I mean it 0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:55.440 was an amazing deal. Now we was pretty much building 0:43:55.440 --> 0:44:00.680 the city, you know, strip malls, movie theater. Yeah, yeah, 0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:04.160 for sure. It was a hellicon Union city. It was 0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:06.000 a hell of a plan, hell of a plan. And 0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:09.160 I was like, oh, y'all, you know what, I just 0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:12.440 spied to them, bro, I'm trying to grow, you know, 0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:14.520 my You know what I'm saying, this is my portfolio. 0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:15.400 I'm trying to grow it. 0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:19.680 I'm twenty I'm twenty five, twenty six years old, and 0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.440 I told you I always stayed ahead. I always think 0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:26.440 about my finances. Couldn't amount of millions and accounting. I'm like, oh, 0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:29.160 I can live off that because I already got everything 0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:32.400 that I need and I'm still playing, and I know 0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:34.120 what I'm making this year and I know what I got. 0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.920 All right, take that, and so those the type of 0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:40.200 situations that you can fall into. I feel like I 0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:42.120 was never supposed to file for bankruptcy. 0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:44.440 How'd that happen? 0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.080 When you're in prison and you can't make phone calls 0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:51.000 and talk to people and catch up with people, they 0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:51.560 run off. 0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:54.560 I'm just being candid, you know what I'm saying. 0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.480 I know we having a conversation about other things, but 0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:00.880 you act and sometimes I feel like therapeutic for me 0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:04.799 to talk about the pitfalls and the things I got 0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:06.680 for him. You ask how you know what I'm saying, 0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:09.799 Just to be where are your people and just know 0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:12.480 the situations that you're getting into, because you can get 0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:15.840 taken full advantage of. And that's why I tell young 0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:20.200 men and women don't go invest in millions of dollars. 0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:22.560 It would have softened the blow for me. 0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:24.200 I'd have been okay if i'd have gave him a 0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:27.600 two million as opposed to eight. Now I got room 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.680 to work work around certain situations. So yeah, man, you 0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:32.719 got to be smart with your money because that's your 0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:33.719 money at the end of the day. 0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:36.239 And learn at the same time. Yeah, I mean we 0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:37.480 have to learn from our heroes. 0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:40.680 Yeah, and so like to see you speak about it, 0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:42.719 to see you be vulnerable about it. 0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:44.959 They're gonna learn from it for sure. 0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:46.799 I think one of the most important piece is when 0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:50.880 you're talking to Dion in the documentary and he says, 0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:53.480 obviously you had to come back, but he didn't realize 0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:56.120 you a whole until you saw you with the family. 0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:58.720 I know your wife is ep on the project. 0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:02.360 Talk about that, the process of working together on something 0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:05.440 that's so important to the sport but to you as 0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:07.680 a union, like you're doing something together, you're working with 0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:08.520 your wife talking about that. 0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:10.880 It's fun when you get to work with your companion. 0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:13.760 Man, it's also nerve racking at the same time because 0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.680 a lot of the things it in relationships, you know, 0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:19.160 you bump here is and you don't see how to 0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:21.520 aunt certain things. So it's like, yo, I should ask 0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:23.920 this question now, y'all used to ask that question. Her 0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:26.600 and to producer to get together and they devise a 0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:30.880 plan and it all turned out to be, you know, 0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:34.239 the best thing that we could have done. You know 0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:38.279 what I'm saying in terms of right now, But yeah, man, 0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:41.319 just being a good listener, you know what I'm saying, 0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:45.800 following the game plan, just liking football, trusting her judgment, 0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:49.719 you know, trusting other producers judgments and what they believe in. 0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:52.719 And I don't have all the answers sometimes, but I 0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:54.760 can walk in the room and if it's football related, 0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:59.440 I probably can answer more questions than anybody. It's not 0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:02.000 that we're all time. When you know, you stepping in 0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:05.320 a different arena. You know, that's their arena. They produce 0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:08.960 and they ep projects. And this is not the first rodeo, 0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:11.080 but for me, it was my first time. I was 0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:13.600 just really blessed to be the talent and this I 0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:16.239 felt like to be able to do the interviews and 0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:18.839 sit down with all these guys and you know, gain 0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:21.760 the understanding of their football life and their football journey, 0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:26.279 like I said, and so in talking to my wife's like, 0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:28.359 that's what we set out to do that, that's what 0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:31.239 the plan was. When y'all I pitched this to you 0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:35.000 in the car, would you do this? I was like, cool, Yeah, 0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:38.480 sound like a hell of a solid project. Let's do it. 0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:42.919 So when it was time to do it and make suggestions, 0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:45.200 and sometimes I just had to shut up and listen, 0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:47.520 and it turned out for the better. 0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:49.640 To follow out real quick. 0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:51.960 So in terms of creating it, because a lot of 0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:54.400 people don't even know the process of creating documentary all 0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:56.799 y'all self under it. And then the other part is 0:47:57.480 --> 0:47:59.799 it's coming out on Prime. Correct, it's coming out on Prime? 0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:02.560 Was I'm Prome? So you got to picture to two 0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:04.800 different you had to picture, Yeah, what's that process? 0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:08.000 I see? I didn't know a lot about that process. 0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:08.520 You know. 0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:12.520 All I knew was the money and being the talent. 0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:17.960 You know what I'm saying. You know, I learned it, 0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:20.160 and I learned so much in this Like I'm ready 0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:22.680 to move forward, but I can't take other people's con 0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:24.720 I got my own concepts of me and my team, 0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:27.560 my crew, and wife got her own concepts to what 0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:30.200 they about to go do. But now I know, like 0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:34.680 little stuff got to start out with a sizzle, put 0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:37.680 that together. Somebody got to funded. It's either gonna be you, 0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:41.320 somebody else or some partners. And and so I learned 0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:46.439 and a collective effort you can get to the end game. 0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:51.000 But a little quicker, you know, she was instrumental in 0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:56.600 the concept. I was able to put the money together 0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:00.680 and they was able to execute and get it sold. 0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:05.840 So teamwork. And I was like, I say, blessed to 0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:08.359 be the talent in it. I see so much good 0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:12.200 in it. Man, I just wanted wanting to always feel 0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:16.000 like damn man, Like if the league don't embrace us 0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:19.880 as black quarterbacks, man, we never get an opportunity to 0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:23.960 line up and say hut for the Tennessee Titans or 0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:28.600 the Philadelphia Eagles or the Baltimore Ravens. Man. The league 0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:32.520 has come so far bro from where it was. And 0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:34.719 maybe it was just stereotypes from the outside world. It 0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:38.399 might not even have been inside the NFL world. It's 0:49:38.440 --> 0:49:42.600 just so much pressure can accumulate from fans and people, 0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:44.440 and you hear about these guys get hate mail and 0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:47.400 all that. So if Doug Willims getting hate mail. Can 0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:52.600 you imagine what's coming to the facility, the organization. They've 0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:58.440 seen the same thing, and so pressure comes from all sides. 0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:01.040 But it takes somebody to stand up say you know what, man, 0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:03.200 screw that. I don't care, Doug gonna be my quarterback. 0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:06.719 You start in the super Bowl today, broken barrier. And 0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:08.600 I think when people do it, they don't even maybe 0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:10.400 they think about doing it. This might be the first 0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:12.920 black quarter when I got dropped a number one, first 0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:13.719 black quarterbacks. 0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:14.319 And I don't know. 0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:16.799 I don't necessarily think Damn Reeds was trying to break 0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:19.200 a barrier. I think he was doing what he thought 0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.200 was right, the right thing to do in his heart. 0:50:21.520 --> 0:50:22.680 Obviously he wanted to win. 0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:25.359 And you know Arthur Smith, who was the on at 0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:30.160 the time, did the same thing. They felt the same way. 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:32.919 Y'all don't care what color he is. Y'all black, white 0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:36.239 and different. Yo, I need you come on. And that 0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:39.040 meant a lot, man. And when I was on a podium, 0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:40.920 they was like, Yo, you know you just made a history. 0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:45.520 I'm like, Yo, that's the last thing I'm thinking. But 0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:49.319 looking at it twenty five years later or even ten 0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:53.279 years later, it's like, man, Damn. That was a big 0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:56.120 moment because when because Cam went number one a couple 0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:59.319 of years later. But man, I always referenced and as 0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:01.960 you're saying in The Doctor ninety nine draft Man, when 0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:07.040 Donovan and Kelly Smith, Dante, Cole Pepper, Sean King, when 0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:10.120 all them boys went, I was like, yo, I got 0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:14.719 a shot. I'm not playing quarterback for no reason. For 0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:16.160 a lot of years, I felt like I was playing 0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:19.400 quarterback just to get put in another position. 0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:21.799 When did you feel confident that you now, this is it, 0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:23.000 this is my position. 0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:27.120 Like I say, ninety nine, I was at Virginia Tech, 0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:31.960 and it was rough at Virginia Tech in the beginning 0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:34.120 because I had a tough time picking up offense. 0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:35.120 Like I said, I didn't. 0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:37.319 I wasn't fortunate enough to go to camps and learn 0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:40.600 from quarterback coaches early like these kids can do now. 0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:43.040 So when I got there, I was raw. I really 0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:49.719 didn't know how to like compartmentalize the offense, and you 0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:51.799 know how to learn it, what it takes to learn it. 0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:54.120 It took about four months for me to learn the offense. 0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:57.040 But when I finally got it, I was able to 0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:01.640 pair that up with the athleticism and then that's when 0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:05.239 I became a dynamic player. But it all starts with 0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:07.520 your mental You got to know what you're doing first, 0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:10.840 and then that the physical talent come out. It was 0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:12.719 a rough ride. It was a tough journey man. Like 0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:14.640 I said, weighed a lot on my mental health, Like 0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:18.040 do I play quarterback? Do I switch it? I'm running 0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:22.240 out of time over here. I'm being read shirt freshman 0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:25.960 next year, true freshman. And one day, Man, I was 0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:28.600 just watching the film. Coach told me, every day, keep 0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:30.600 coming to the film room, keep coming, just make sure 0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:34.680 you keep don't stop believing in yourself and coming and 0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:37.400 watching this film and trying to get better. And one 0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:40.879 day I was just looking at the film, bro and 0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:43.520 the whole football world just came together for me. 0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:47.920 Before we wrap, just a few football questions, Pat Mahomes, Yeah, 0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:48.640 is he. 0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:53.439 Some have said that he's the greatest quarterback of all time? 0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:54.719 If not number two? 0:52:56.560 --> 0:52:58.400 It's the contrary one greatest quarterback. 0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:03.000 Who's the greatest quarterback? Tom Brady? Okay? And is he 0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:05.080 is he on pace to be the greatest quarterback of 0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:08.239 all going pace? He's Patrick? Is Is he number two? 0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:10.719 Number two? Right now? He's number two? As a forty 0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:13.120 nine guy. You're gonnaut him in front of Montana. Yes, 0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:16.200 he just did you. I mean, I just want to 0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:17.040 read how. 0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:24.239 Iterated Montanna had four rings, but Montanna won't Patrick, Montana 0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:28.359 had Rice. Yeah, Patrick had Tyreek Hill for a couple 0:53:28.400 --> 0:53:30.120 of years, got the greatest tight end of all time. 0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:35.640 I mean nothing Kelsey, my boy, not taking nothing away 0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:40.360 from Kelsey, but Kelsey is a tight end, you know 0:53:40.360 --> 0:53:43.600 what I'm saying, which makes it even more prolific for 0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:46.080 him because to be the greatest tight and one of 0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:48.919 the greatest tight ends because I put him up there 0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:53.400 with Tony Gonzalez was a great tight end and it 0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:55.480 was you know, grounk. You know what I'm saying. It's 0:53:56.080 --> 0:53:58.680 about five of them that they can all be number 0:53:58.719 --> 0:53:59.520 one for sure. 0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:01.279 Nothing another has done with Kelsey's done now. 0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:07.400 Yeah, but he also has terrible well he has not 0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:09.720 have good receivers my home. 0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:14.360 Put the Hall of Fame. But I'm talking abou Tyreek 0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:18.600 for a couple of years. Yeah, but he's all yeah, yeah, 0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:22.040 all in all man, because he ain't about the tight end. 0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:24.919 Kelsey is great. They all great. But when you're talking 0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:28.680 about quarterback play, Patrick could do a little bit more 0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:32.279 than Joe. Yes, you know what I'm saying, move like this. 0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:35.000 The game last night is crazy, you know what I'm saying. 0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:37.439 That was crazy, and so he can move just enough, 0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:40.880 joke and move to man. Look, I do see Patrick 0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:41.880 getting two more. 0:54:42.520 --> 0:54:44.080 At least I see it. 0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:46.840 This is a football I got two more football questions 0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:50.600 because you brought up ninety nine. Was there ever a 0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:54.319 time when you were on the field and you looked 0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:56.680 on the opposing side or even on your side and said, 0:54:57.400 --> 0:54:59.600 there's a better athlete on the field than me. Because 0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:01.879 when I'm of the ninety nine and we ran into 0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:06.360 him recently, Peter Warick was on that field. Yeah, and 0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:09.560 to me, one of the their list players I've ever seen. 0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:13.359 Yeah, playing against Florida State that year, it's like. 0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:17.000 It's like one of the games that you know, like, yo, 0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:20.319 we're probably gonna lose this game. I just got to 0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:22.040 play my heart out and I got to give it 0:55:22.080 --> 0:55:24.680 everything I got from start to finish because he's gonna 0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:25.719 make some plays. 0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:26.600 You know. 0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:28.920 It's just saying, you know, you can't stop him. You 0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:31.359 can only hope to contain him. There was that type 0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:34.359 of deal going into the game. They had so many 0:55:34.360 --> 0:55:37.560 amazing athletes, Like I think they had like four first 0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:40.759 rounders on that team, probably like fifteen guys who got 0:55:40.840 --> 0:55:42.560 drafted from that one team alone. 0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:44.840 And they was just real fast. 0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:47.200 It was in the era where you know, the great 0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:50.719 Bobby Batoin was probably at the height of his recruiting 0:55:51.360 --> 0:55:55.000 you know what I'm saying, tenure, and he was getting 0:55:55.000 --> 0:55:57.000 the best of the best athletes, you know what I'm saying. 0:55:57.080 --> 0:56:00.960 And so I felt it me being as fast and 0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:04.440 as elusive as I was, and being on turf, they 0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:07.239 just kind of outmatched this a little bit in certain areas. Uh. 0:56:08.640 --> 0:56:10.279 And why I do think we had the team to 0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:13.880 beat him, we had two more quarters, we might have 0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:14.520 walked them down. 0:56:16.200 --> 0:56:19.879 Was just he caught a bomb in the third quarter 0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:22.640 and we just knew it. Damn. So got loose on this, 0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:23.399 you know what I'm saying. 0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:28.359 Well, the black quarterback also has transitioned in college as well, 0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:31.239 n il deals. Yeah, man, And we can't we got 0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:34.440 to talk about Shandor Sanders Colorado. 0:56:34.600 --> 0:56:36.120 Yeah, no doubt, baby boy. 0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:39.880 So I mean he got a lamb truck in college, 0:56:39.920 --> 0:56:43.640 right and get millions of dollars. So how good do 0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:47.799 you think he can be and what how do you think, like, 0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:49.000 what would you have done? 0:56:49.040 --> 0:56:51.400 As far as the NIL deal has changed this. 0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:56.560 It's even the reason why savan quit, we said, because 0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:59.359 like he didn't want to compete with that. As far 0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:02.000 as raising five million dollars year, it was just it 0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:05.120 was just it's a whole different retired to set the ball. 0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:08.040 How you feel about NIL and should do of the 0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:08.799 N I l I. 0:57:08.880 --> 0:57:12.399 Love that these guys got an opportunity to go make 0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:14.360 money for their name, image and likeness. 0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:17.960 You know. I think it's just that you know what 0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:20.960 I'm saying and clear. But for a guy like. 0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:26.920 Should Do, I got different perspectives. Chaudor pretty much been 0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:28.840 in the same offense for the last couple of years, 0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:31.680 so he didn't have to change coordinators when they came 0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:35.080 from Jackson State to Colorado. I think Pat Sherman now 0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:38.480 is a uh, you know, probably the same things he's doing. 0:57:38.840 --> 0:57:42.800 He's doing conceptually, it's not too far from what he learned. 0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:47.720 What scares me about the NIL is that you know, 0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:51.120 kids just going from different teams to a different team 0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:53.760 year after year after learn and learn these offenses. 0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:55.560 It's really hard to. 0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:59.080 Learn and so you get there and you got paid 0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:01.040 a million dollars in it. It's a guy that's that's 0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:04.480 been there for two years already and you you got 0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:06.040 to learn, but he already know more than you. 0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:07.000 HM. 0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:10.400 So if you're not exceptional, if you don't have Shador 0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:17.000 saying this talent and a bring like Shador, then he's 0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:19.000 probably that quarterback is probably gonna look better than you. 0:58:19.040 --> 0:58:20.080 You probably gonna struggle. 0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:23.200 DJ like good lady. I can't say his name. The 0:58:23.280 --> 0:58:27.400 quarterback in Florida State went to three different teams Clemson, 0:58:27.440 --> 0:58:30.640 Oregon State, in State, now Florida State or they might 0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:32.040 be on for I don't know if they lost. 0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:34.400 They won last week. Good, I'm happy. 0:58:38.400 --> 0:58:41.360 You know, you got to learn all these different concepts 0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:42.840 and man, you're just not comfortable. 0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:44.720 It takes time to get comfortable. 0:58:44.720 --> 0:58:46.360 You got to go out and practice it against the 0:58:46.440 --> 0:58:49.520 defense and learn from your mistakes. And you know what 0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:51.920 I'm saying, try to find ways to you know what 0:58:51.960 --> 0:58:54.280 I'm saying, move the chains and get better. And that's 0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:56.760 it's just not easy when you get learning. But I 0:58:56.880 --> 0:59:00.880 do support Nil Shador. You know, he he's worth every 0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:05.240 penny from what he got to go through on Saturdays. 0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:07.120 And you know, he got the team that's just getting 0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:08.800 better and these guys earning that money. 0:59:08.920 --> 0:59:12.160 Man, it's it's a lot, you know what I'm saying. 0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:12.920 But I think. 0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:15.920 You know, in due time, you know, I think a 0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:18.400 lot of that to be dispersed amongst the team. I 0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:20.960 think that's important. Hey, somebody got to do it. 0:59:21.280 --> 0:59:23.480 To door is number one, n Il number two, and 0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:25.120 I'm not sure if you watch him play last week 0:59:25.560 --> 0:59:28.760 Archie Man and ye, now we knew the pedigree is 0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:33.200 there from the throwing, but last two weeks ago he 0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:36.760 clocked in at twenty point seven miles per hour on 0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:37.200 the field. 0:59:37.280 --> 0:59:43.120 Who is that? Paying Man's nephew at Texas? Who's his father? 0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:47.880 His father is? This is Cooper? 0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:49.400 He didn't make it to the NFL. He had a 0:59:49.440 --> 0:59:55.520 spine injury that derailed him in college. Got me thinking, right, 0:59:56.120 --> 1:00:01.480 fastest athletes that's played at the position? Putting you, I'm 1:00:01.520 --> 1:00:04.560 putting Lamar and I have to kind of put him 1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:06.520 at He's running faster than Tyree Oh whoa you? 1:00:06.920 --> 1:00:10.760 Arch Manning? He ran twenty saying quarterback, quarterback, quarterback bo. 1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:13.880 What he clocked the faster time than Tyreek Killer was 1:00:13.920 --> 1:00:16.720 just a one sprint he's not a fast player. 1:00:17.520 --> 1:00:19.720 Well, if you ran a sprint of twenty point seven, 1:00:19.920 --> 1:00:21.160 let's think this through thing about this. 1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:24.640 Let's think because because Tyreek is catching it and running 1:00:25.560 --> 1:00:26.280 and I'm not saying that spring. 1:00:26.280 --> 1:00:28.760 He's not wearing one hundred mini dash. I'm saying open field, 1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:31.800 he ran twenty point seven. But that's one run. I 1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:33.439 don't care what it is. Bro, you're on the field, 1:00:33.480 --> 1:00:35.720 you want twenty point seven. That's faster than the fastest 1:00:35.720 --> 1:00:36.480 guy in the NFL. 1:00:37.000 --> 1:00:40.120 So I'm thinking, like, at your top speed fastest quarterbacks, 1:00:40.200 --> 1:00:42.880 you lamar, who else is running him? 1:00:43.120 --> 1:00:46.520 Not in this class? Gonna come to Willisie Wilson is 1:00:46.520 --> 1:00:47.840 in there. He's up there. League. 1:00:47.840 --> 1:00:50.240 Willis will definitely run a four four forty or he'll 1:00:50.280 --> 1:00:52.000 get out quick, really quick. 1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:53.520 RG three. 1:00:54.280 --> 1:01:01.000 That's my guy. Algie three was fast. Not too many 1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:06.720 more that's gonna move like that. Oh can't can't forget 1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:09.320 about cam speak. Yeah, I think more of him as 1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:13.160 power both it is Google it, Yeah, google cam highlights 1:01:13.240 --> 1:01:18.360 in Auburn, Google cam highlights, and and I watched early Carolina. 1:01:18.640 --> 1:01:21.400 Yeah yeah, he probably clocked you know, twenty plus a 1:01:21.440 --> 1:01:22.000 couple of times. 1:01:22.040 --> 1:01:24.880 So yeah, it's about five of us that it was 1:01:24.920 --> 1:01:25.800 in the four to four. 1:01:25.680 --> 1:01:30.160 Club you played in this era right now, pistol offense 1:01:30.880 --> 1:01:34.680 with the rules, any offense the rules catered to not 1:01:34.920 --> 1:01:38.040 hit the quarterback. What does Michael Vick look like in 1:01:38.160 --> 1:01:39.560 twenty twenty four as NFL? 1:01:40.640 --> 1:01:44.960 Well, I think you know that rule certainly fluctuates for 1:01:45.920 --> 1:01:48.440 a mobile quarterback. Well most of the guys mobile anyway. 1:01:48.480 --> 1:01:50.920 So let's just like I shouldn't even say that. Everybody 1:01:51.040 --> 1:01:55.640 just do a threat and can run now. So yeah, 1:01:55.640 --> 1:01:58.960 I just think in terms of performance, I'm gonna be 1:01:59.080 --> 1:02:01.200 up at the top of the league, just like I 1:02:01.360 --> 1:02:03.440 was when I was twenty four one. I got a 1:02:03.480 --> 1:02:07.120 great understanding of the game. I do think that coaching Matterson, 1:02:07.160 --> 1:02:11.400 that gotta be with the coach like Amy Reed or 1:02:11.560 --> 1:02:15.640 Matt Laflour or Sean McVay or Kyle Shanahan. You know, 1:02:15.960 --> 1:02:21.880 he looking at MVP, you know, type of numbers and performances. 1:02:22.360 --> 1:02:28.200 So yeah, I mean, I just can't end up these 1:02:28.320 --> 1:02:30.720 days with a coach that don't know how to use you. 1:02:32.200 --> 1:02:35.600 Prime example, the Carolina Panthers. I don't know anything about 1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:38.800 their coaching staff, but I know Brice Young shouldn't have 1:02:38.960 --> 1:02:42.160 looked the way he looked, And you know, all you 1:02:42.160 --> 1:02:43.720 gotta do is look around the league and see what's 1:02:43.720 --> 1:02:45.520 going on around the league to help your player be 1:02:45.840 --> 1:02:46.800 become a better player. 1:02:48.520 --> 1:02:49.640 It's not rocket science. 1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:54.600 I think it's all about, you know, sequence and having 1:02:54.680 --> 1:02:57.480 a flow of how to get a quarterback into a 1:02:57.560 --> 1:03:00.440 rhythm and feeling good about what he's seeing and what 1:03:00.600 --> 1:03:03.000 he got to go do and execute on each and 1:03:03.040 --> 1:03:06.640 every place. So, yeah, everybody can't be a coach in 1:03:06.680 --> 1:03:08.360 the National Football League, I don't think. 1:03:08.440 --> 1:03:09.960 Yeah, that's kind of been the talk now is that 1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:14.200 the guys should be sitting behind the staring quarterback or 1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:16.600 the quarterback who's been there he was never supposed to. Yeah, 1:03:16.800 --> 1:03:19.440 Sandy Dalton won this week, so it looks crazy. But 1:03:19.560 --> 1:03:22.320 then there's as you thats Cam to ce J Stroud. 1:03:22.400 --> 1:03:25.560 Now the talk is Caleb Williams, maybe he's not ready 1:03:25.800 --> 1:03:26.480 to start playing. 1:03:26.840 --> 1:03:30.160 It's tough when you don't have And I won't say 1:03:30.160 --> 1:03:33.240 these guys don't have talent, but you don't have a coach. 1:03:33.320 --> 1:03:36.120 And I'm not taking anything away from these coaches. I'm 1:03:36.200 --> 1:03:36.840 just saying. 1:03:38.360 --> 1:03:40.320 There's no reason why they shouldn't be able to generate 1:03:40.440 --> 1:03:43.560 no offense when you can't generate no offense. 1:03:43.600 --> 1:03:44.880 I think that comes down to coaching. 1:03:46.440 --> 1:03:49.280 On our worst days in Philly, be A scored twenty 1:03:49.360 --> 1:03:54.120 eight points and that's when Andy was like, he wasn't 1:03:54.160 --> 1:03:56.680 even called in the place when I was there. Mardy 1:03:56.760 --> 1:03:58.600 morning Wig, who was a great coordinator, was called in 1:03:58.640 --> 1:04:04.480 the place. But Andy here input and we still average 1:04:04.520 --> 1:04:08.000 thirty points a game somewhere around that. So I just 1:04:08.080 --> 1:04:09.480 know what good coach it looked like. I know what 1:04:09.560 --> 1:04:11.520 Dan Reeves pouring to me. I know what Greg nap 1:04:12.280 --> 1:04:17.880 Jim more important to me. I had Bib Patrino Hcopy, 1:04:17.920 --> 1:04:22.200 I had Chip Kelly, and I had Andy, and so 1:04:22.280 --> 1:04:25.960 I've been around some of the best offensive minds, and 1:04:26.080 --> 1:04:28.840 so I know how you got to put a game 1:04:28.880 --> 1:04:32.560 play together in order to be successful on Sundays. 1:04:33.000 --> 1:04:35.800 Well, we can talk football day. But thank you for 1:04:35.920 --> 1:04:40.760 your time. Yes, amazing man. How can the people watch 1:04:41.320 --> 1:04:44.600 the documentary? Like, what's the all the information? You go 1:04:44.680 --> 1:04:46.960 to Amazon Prime and check it out. 1:04:46.960 --> 1:04:49.560 I'm pretty sure everybody out there got Amazon accounts, man, 1:04:49.680 --> 1:04:51.800 So don't get one man. 1:04:51.920 --> 1:04:53.200 Check it out on Amazon Prime. 1:04:53.200 --> 1:04:56.720 It's the evolution of the black quarterback celebration of how 1:04:56.800 --> 1:05:00.120 far we've come and the opportunities we've been giving and 1:05:00.960 --> 1:05:04.800 celebration for the NFL and for dual threat quarterbacks as 1:05:04.840 --> 1:05:05.120 a whole. 1:05:05.240 --> 1:05:09.440 So really good project, man, some very interesting stories, man, 1:05:09.640 --> 1:05:10.560 and this was done. 1:05:10.720 --> 1:05:15.400 So are you out there who said I loosenized the position? 1:05:15.520 --> 1:05:18.000 I appreciate that I did. But there was a couple 1:05:18.080 --> 1:05:19.280 that came before me to help me. 1:05:19.440 --> 1:05:23.640 So check it out before you need five, your top 1:05:23.760 --> 1:05:24.920 five black quarterbacks? 1:05:25.720 --> 1:05:30.200 Oh, in order for black quarterbacks all time, over time. 1:05:30.480 --> 1:05:38.120 Ever, let me rat lines down right now. Okay, I'm 1:05:38.200 --> 1:05:49.160 just so Donovan at five, no particular, no particular order, Okay, Doug, Okay, Oh. 1:05:49.120 --> 1:06:02.280 Man, it's Warren Marlon, Brisco Randall. This is your favorite 1:06:03.280 --> 1:06:13.240 because not having crazy Cam Russell. Yeah, Russell Lamar yourself, myself, Patrick, 1:06:13.440 --> 1:06:17.080 You're not in there. It's in the top ten. Bro. 1:06:18.520 --> 1:06:20.360 What's your fist? Mike? 1:06:21.280 --> 1:06:25.800 Pat Mahomes Randall Cunningham because that's the first person that 1:06:26.000 --> 1:06:29.919 I like. How he revolutionized to his father, he played 1:06:29.960 --> 1:06:33.640 a major part. I think that Warren Moon is underrated. 1:06:35.280 --> 1:06:35.960 That legend. 1:06:36.320 --> 1:06:41.720 Make sure y'all checked legend. And Russell Wilson I think 1:06:41.840 --> 1:06:44.280 is underrated too. I think it's it's unfortunate how his 1:06:44.360 --> 1:06:47.160 career is playing out now. But we can't act like 1:06:47.200 --> 1:06:49.120 he didn't almost win two super bowl He should have won. 1:06:49.160 --> 1:06:50.840 He should have two super Bowls under his belt. Well, 1:06:50.880 --> 1:06:52.440 he's the reason he didn't win the second one? 1:06:52.920 --> 1:06:53.280 Him? Was it? 1:06:53.320 --> 1:06:57.000 Pete Carroll him how and Whyshawn Lynz gave an interview 1:06:57.520 --> 1:06:59.960 and he said, if there's any other quarterback, he changed the. 1:07:00.040 --> 1:07:02.280 Play in the huddle. It don't matter what the coach 1:07:02.520 --> 1:07:05.000 head coach gives you. I don't care about new quarterbacks. 1:07:05.040 --> 1:07:08.600 You just named. Russell got a super Bowl. Yeah, Patrick 1:07:08.640 --> 1:07:11.439 got a super Bowl. Ye. Lamar got two m VP, 1:07:11.680 --> 1:07:14.320 no super Bowl. He's in my five. Yeah, Cam Gota 1:07:14.520 --> 1:07:20.240 went to a super Bowl. Cam's my five them dudes. 1:07:20.040 --> 1:07:24.720 Man, I got past east bro Pat, you, Lamar, Warren 1:07:25.240 --> 1:07:28.560 and Kim and I would put an asterisk Washington. 1:07:28.800 --> 1:07:32.040 So RG three Yeah, Now. 1:07:32.160 --> 1:07:34.520 RG three didn't play as long because he got He 1:07:34.520 --> 1:07:35.040 didn't have a lot. 1:07:35.080 --> 1:07:37.480 They shouldn't have if he he towards a c L, 1:07:37.560 --> 1:07:39.680 they kept him in the game. They should have be Seattle. 1:07:39.880 --> 1:07:41.640 Seattle went to the Super Bowl and one that yet, 1:07:42.200 --> 1:07:45.280 but they're at home. The grass is terrible in Washington. 1:07:45.320 --> 1:07:46.080 You know you played there. 1:07:46.320 --> 1:07:49.880 Yeah, we all felt like he's like cringe and watching 1:07:50.000 --> 1:07:54.280 RG three, it's ridiculous, like slide think about or you know, 1:07:54.440 --> 1:07:57.040 it's always next year. I think he had proven a 1:07:57.120 --> 1:07:59.360 lot that year that he could play in the league. Yeah, 1:07:59.400 --> 1:08:01.400 it's gonna be a good quarterback for a long time. 1:08:01.240 --> 1:08:03.120 Because Andrew Luck was supposed to be a god. But 1:08:04.320 --> 1:08:07.600 that's just the mentality of us as quarterbacks. Man, when 1:08:07.680 --> 1:08:10.440 we all in, we all in, and he was all in. 1:08:10.600 --> 1:08:12.800 He was trying to he was trying to make history 1:08:13.240 --> 1:08:16.400 and so you know, shout out to RG and just 1:08:16.479 --> 1:08:18.360 him pushing to be be the best he could be 1:08:18.400 --> 1:08:18.920 in that moment. 1:08:20.280 --> 1:08:23.000 Mike Pleasure, my brother, appreciate you. Man. This is dope. Man. 1:08:23.600 --> 1:08:26.280 Make sure y'all watched the documentary. Please check it out. 1:08:26.360 --> 1:08:28.759 Hey, y'all got accounts. Y'all not watching Thursday night football 1:08:28.760 --> 1:08:30.240 if y'all don't got to count. 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