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Speaker 3: All right, guys, welcome back.

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Speaker 4: Yes, this is a special episode Earned your Leisure dropped

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Speaker 4: off schedule on Sunday for the reason you do what

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Speaker 4: you want when you popping right. For sure, we had

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Speaker 4: one of the greatest of all time. Michael vick Man,

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Speaker 4: pleasure man, Thank you for joining us. Thanks a legend

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Speaker 4: this is a legendary edition.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Yeah, appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: So we got the docu series dropping as far as

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Speaker 4: the evolution of the black quarterback, so we're going to

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Speaker 4: get into that. We're going to talk about the NFL.

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Speaker 4: We're going to talk about the finances. You know, this

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Speaker 3: But first and foremost, thank you for joining us. Appreciate

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Speaker 3: it man, Thank you. Man.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad we ain't doing this at eight o'clock in

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Speaker 5: the morning.

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Speaker 3: Ten am. I can function a little bit eight.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, man, them called the seven thirty makeup and

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Speaker 6: then seven forty five preps.

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Speaker 5: All that I go through that enough on Sunday mornings

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Speaker 3: That's a fact. That's a fact.

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Speaker 4: So let's talk about it. Let's let's talk about the series.

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Speaker 4: How did you get involved in it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, uh, I got involved because for one, you know,

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Speaker 5: to me and be like, you know, you change the game, man,

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Speaker 5: And I mean and rightfully so for the you know,

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Speaker 5: I understand, you know where they're getting at, and and

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Speaker 5: a part of me believe that you change the game.

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Speaker 5: Would I always be like, man, you ever seen Charlie Water,

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Speaker 3: You ever seen this?

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Speaker 5: And the answer was always no, Nah, you know, go

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Speaker 5: google him and you know, get some into And after

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Speaker 3: She's like, yo, you should produce a doc where you

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Speaker 5: With all these quarterbacks that you a mayas so much

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Speaker 5: since you're telling all these people that you didn't revolutionize

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Speaker 5: and you know, just being honest, you want to pay homage.

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Speaker 5: And so this was all about paying homage and really, uh,

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Speaker 5: black quarterbacks in general. How hard we you know, we

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Speaker 5: I just always felt like it was something that needed

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Speaker 6: As you're careating the documentary and doing it, I wonder

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've taken a lot of flak.

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Speaker 6: I'm a Washington fan because of eighty seven and Doug Williams,

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Speaker 3: For the Commanders.

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Speaker 6: Now as you're watching it, you're starting to hear people

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Speaker 6: Because you're saying, like, these guys are the guy that

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Speaker 5: It's certainly a great level of gratitude and appreciation because

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Speaker 5: I know you got to have a role model, Like

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Speaker 5: You know, these guys were, you know, very influential in

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Speaker 5: And I'll be honest about that. I didn't understand that concept.

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Speaker 5: It's like, damn, you know, we really influenced the generation

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Speaker 4: Talk about the evolution, and you know, previously a black

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Speaker 5: No doubt. As a kid, always heard story is about

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Speaker 5: I wasted all this time trying to become a quarterback

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Speaker 5: In the next day, I want to be a professional

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Speaker 5: And you know, drafts, you know, I'm starting to see

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Speaker 3: He goes to Green Bay.

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Speaker 5: Two weeks ago, three weeks ago, he picks this system up.

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Speaker 5: In three weeks he goes out and win two games

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Speaker 4: Because I always I played basketball my whole life, and

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Speaker 3: He left that part out and is violent. That's that's amazing.

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Speaker 4: So, But how how hard is it to act from

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Speaker 5: I'm starting to and I'm embracing it, especially after this

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Speaker 5: But that might have come from some of my own people,

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Speaker 4: But then also I feel like, so this parallels from

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Speaker 3: You number seven, somebody number three.

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Speaker 4: His part as what he did is you revolutionized it

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Speaker 4: Like as far as what he did to the league,

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Speaker 5: One that started with Alan. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And so that was really cool.

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Speaker 5: And it's all right to have a guy like Alan,

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Speaker 3: We did it different. We did it at a faster pace.

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Speaker 5: You can't be great at anything if you don't love it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Do you realize did you realize that in real time? Though?

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Speaker 5: Like at least I'm gonna shoot for the stars and

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Speaker 4: Leave it at that, you know what I'm saying. Last

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Speaker 5: He would have to walk up a little bit, he

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Speaker 3: He could throw like, yeah he was. Was he faster

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Speaker 5: I envisioned him looking like Charlie Ward in college.

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Speaker 3: Then he has a new number seven.

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Speaker 5: But talk about that. I mean, everything I did was

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Speaker 5: And you know, I just took it upon myself, man,

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: That's why I try not to, you know, scrutinized and

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Speaker 5: I could fluctuate when I'm eight seven, You know what

439
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Speaker 5: I'm saying, like these quarterbacks that could move like me,

440
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 5: that I was watching them like I want to be

441
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Speaker 5: like him. So Dan Reeves used to always just get

442
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Speaker 5: into John's ass. I'm talking about all the time. If

443
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Speaker 5: you go back and watch old clips, he he I mean,

444
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,959
Speaker 5: he lit ding up, probably bring the best out of him.

445
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Speaker 5: And I used to tell myself, God, if I get

446
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 5: drafted any team, don't let it be Dan Reeves. And

447
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 5: he ended up drafting me. But it was the best

448
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Speaker 5: thing to happen to me because he knew what to

449
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 5: do with me.

450
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 3: He knew how to.

451
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Speaker 5: You know, when I got to a point where I

452
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 5: was like riding too high, you knew how to bring

453
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Speaker 5: me back down. And he was certainly one of the

454
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Speaker 5: coaches that I respect more than anything.

455
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Speaker 3: And he made me.

456
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Speaker 5: Afraid to fail, you'd be afraid to fail. And I

457
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 5: always never wanted to let him down. So we're talking

458
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Speaker 5: about black quarterbacks.

459
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Speaker 4: There is a certain political aspect that we got to

460
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Speaker 4: talk about Colin Kaepernick. Yeah, taking a stand, well taking

461
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Speaker 4: a knee actually, and that that was a major thing.

462
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Speaker 4: And as a quarterback, he was the leader of the team.

463
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Speaker 4: And so what what how do you feel looking back

464
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Speaker 4: on this whole situation now that is over with and

465
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Speaker 4: in retrospect, how do you how do you feel about

466
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Speaker 4: that situation from his perspective how or and also the

467
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Speaker 4: NFL's perspective.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like Colin did what he felt was right,

469
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Speaker 5: and he took a stance for a lot of people.

470
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Speaker 5: He used his platform to bring awareness to what he

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Speaker 5: believed in. Whether people felt like, you know, it was

472
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Speaker 5: the right platform to do it on or not, that

473
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Speaker 5: was his perspective and that's what he wanted to do

474
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Speaker 5: free will in this world. The NFL stands like, I

475
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Speaker 5: don't know, you know, what they you know, established or

476
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Speaker 5: what they felt like was right or wrong in regards

477
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Speaker 5: to it. I've watched it like everybody else and wanted

478
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Speaker 5: to see what the outcome was gonna be what the

479
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Speaker 5: conclusion was, I'm going to turn out to be because

480
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Speaker 5: it was a unique moment in sports. I think Colin

481
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Speaker 5: realized that. I think the NFL realized that. I think

482
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Speaker 5: on all levels, everybody just wanted some form of respect,

483
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Speaker 5: from the NFL to Colin.

484
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Speaker 3: To just people abroad.

485
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Speaker 5: I think everybody wanted, you know, this situation to have

486
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Speaker 5: a positive outcome.

487
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Speaker 3: But I think at the end of.

488
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Speaker 5: The day, it was all about respect, everybody respecting one

489
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Speaker 5: another decision that was being made. And so in talking

490
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Speaker 5: to Colin, I know, you know, he's happy and that

491
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Speaker 5: he stood up.

492
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Speaker 3: He's happy that he took a stance for.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people, and you know a lot of

494
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Speaker 5: people appreciate that. So he's living his best life now

495
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Speaker 5: and things are good and no complaints, so you know,

496
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Speaker 5: we all move forward from it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So obviously Colin never got the second chance, but you did.

506
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Speaker 6: I want to talk about Philly and obviously Andy Reid

507
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Speaker 6: Hall of Fame coach now believing in you, and at

508
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Speaker 6: the time they have a quarterback franchise quarterback. He's in

509
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Speaker 6: the shout to donvd McNabb at the time, he's the

510
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Speaker 6: star of the team and I'm wondering, obviously he's in

511
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Speaker 6: the documentary and y'all seem like y'all have a good relationship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, was it always like that when you got there?

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Speaker 6: Because I'm looking at it, it's like, this is a

514
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Speaker 6: superstar who's coming into the team.

515
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Speaker 3: I'm the quarterback. He's the only here to take my job.

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Speaker 5: Really Yeah, well, I don't think Donovan looked at it

517
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Speaker 5: as if I was coming to take his job.

518
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Speaker 3: Donovan, Andy, they just embraced me in that moment.

519
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 5: Donovan, he knew that I grew up idolizing him and

520
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 5: wanting to be Donovan McNabb. The nineteen ninety nine draft,

521
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Speaker 5: as you heard in the dock, was so inspirational to

522
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Speaker 5: me because that made me feel like I could make it.

523
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 5: And when I seen Donovan go because I watched everything

524
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 5: Donovan did in college and something like he couldn't do

525
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 5: no wrong in my eyes, and he really didn't do

526
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 5: any wrong, and so he knew that he was one

527
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Speaker 5: of my favorites.

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Speaker 3: It was just kind of screwed up that we had

529
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Speaker 3: to face each other.

530
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Speaker 5: And so when you have to face somebody in the

531
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Speaker 5: league or in any competition, it becomes a rival you

532
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Becomes a rivalry. And you know,

533
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 5: it didn't stop the love that I had for him.

534
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 5: It just made me want to beat him. And once

535
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 5: I got to Philadelphia, I was like, man, look, it's

536
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 5: an honor to be in the same room with you,

537
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 5: to share some of the same football stories and to

538
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 5: talk football with you and gain the understanding Donovan he

539
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 5: knew a lot about the game from what he learned

540
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 5: from Andy. I was just like in the room just

541
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 5: soaking up everything because I'm like, this is gonna be

542
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 5: a good situation for me because I can expand my

543
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 5: football knowledge. And after listening to Donovan talk for you know,

544
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 5: the first week, I'm like, I see why he's a

545
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 5: future Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: I was always a little envious.

547
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Speaker 5: In a good way of Donovan and Andy because Andy

548
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 5: used to let Donovan throw that day.

549
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Oh, three h four five.

550
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 5: Donovan led the league in a lot of statistical categories, yes,

552
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 5: and so.

553
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: You know he learned a lot along the way.

554
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 5: And big credit to Andy Reid for being in you

555
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 5: know that the mentor in his football journey.

556
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Speaker 3: You ended up beating him a lot. Actually they got

557
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 3: beat him twice.

558
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, he went to he always got me in the

559
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 5: uh in the playoffs, he went to Washington.

560
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I never forgot again, and uh, I never forget. It

562
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 6: was the first game of the season, Monday night football.

563
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Speaker 6: I think it's the first year you're starting, just signed

564
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Speaker 6: a new contract.

565
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Speaker 3: It's you.

566
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Speaker 6: It's shady and y'all got to Sean Jackson. Yeah, yeah,

567
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 6: they first first played a game. They paid Donovan right

568
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 6: before the game, like, well, you lucky. I was on

569
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Speaker 6: the ground then I was hungry.

570
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

571
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 5: I was coming back from coming back from prison, and

572
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 5: I was first coming off injury. You know what I'm saying, Like,

573
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 5: I know my financial state, So I was back in

574
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 5: that mold. I was like in Virginia Tech move where

575
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Speaker 5: I was just trying to get it again.

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Speaker 3: It ain't nothing like going through that process of you know, when.

577
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 5: You you're striving to be great, when you got so much

578
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 5: to play for. I wish, you know, once you know

579
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 5: I got the contract, I would have kept that airs

580
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 5: and I did, I you know, for the most part.

581
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 5: But it was so exhausting to get back to that point.

582
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Speaker 5: You don't have to go on to prison for two years,

583
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 5: coming back, sitting for a year, that's three years out

584
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 5: of football, then come back and you get it all back,

585
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 5: and then you know, you got to keep that edge,

586
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 5: keep that edge as things started to change around you.

587
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 5: People started to change. They wanted Andy out of Philly,

588
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 5: you know, and I love Andy the death. So my

589
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 5: heart was like torn. I'm like, how could this great

590
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 5: city not want this great man? But you know, all

591
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 5: good things come to an end, and you know, it's

592
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 5: just a lot of circumstances and that led to me

593
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Speaker 5: leaving Philly.

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Speaker 3: But man, it was some of the best years of

595
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Speaker 3: my life.

596
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 5: When I think back, I see pictures, man, and I

597
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 5: just have a great sense of gratitude for that era.

598
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 4: So from a financial sting point, so Dak Prescott. You

599
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 4: just signed the biggest contract in history on another black quarterback. Yes,

600
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 4: so two hundred and thirty that congratulations, two hundred and

601
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 4: thirty one million dollars guaranteed eighty million dollars signing bonus.

602
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Speaker 4: So the guaranteed aspect is interesting because you had one

603
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Speaker 4: hundred and thirty eight million dollar contract with the Falcons,

604
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Speaker 4: but only thirty seven million was guaranteed. So before, previously

605
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Speaker 4: a lot football contracts were not guaranteed, notoriously for four

606
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 4: contracts were not guaranteed. But now we're seeing more and

607
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 4: more fully guaranteed, almost fully guaranteed NFL contracts, And that

608
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 4: is a big difference because I mean you're talking about

609
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: in that situation, almost eighty percent of your contract was

610
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Speaker 4: not guaranteed. So people will see the number like you

611
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 4: got one hundred million, but it's like, okay, well the

612
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: incentives if you get hurt, if you don't make it

613
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 4: to the Pro Bowl, and then by the time it

614
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 4: equals out, you might not you might get paid twenty

615
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: percent of that. So talk about when understanding that when

616
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Speaker 4: you first signed that contract, and how the evolution has

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Speaker 4: changed now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, the only thing that matters in the contract

619
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Speaker 5: is the fully guaranteed. The rest of it being center

620
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 5: based is just fluff. That's those are agents that y'all

621
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Speaker 5: make this contract. One hundred and two hundred and twenty

622
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 5: million for my foot, that's for the brand. You know,

623
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 5: what we as players see is the fully guaranteed.

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Speaker 3: So it might be you.

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00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 5: Know, two hundred million, but not for guys now, one

626
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 5: hundred and ten million fully guaranteed.

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Speaker 3: It's still a lot of money.

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Speaker 5: So when I signed my contract, it was one hundred

629
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Speaker 5: and twenty million, thirty seven million fully guaranteed, but or

630
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Speaker 5: thirty four or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But that was in two thousand and four. You know,

632
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Speaker 3: it's twenty twenty four.

633
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 5: It's twenty years later, salary caps throwing up inflation. You know,

634
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 5: business is growing around the league, and owners are getting richer,

635
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 5: and you know, you gotta pay players a lot more.

636
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Speaker 5: And so that's just the era we are in now,

637
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 5: and guys are fortunate. You know, ten years from now,

638
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 5: the fully guarantees might be two hundred million.

639
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Speaker 3: I mean, DeShawn wasn't far from now, yeah, I mean.

640
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 4: That's where how was the pressure was headed When you

641
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 4: signed one hundred million dollars deal, you were still young.

642
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: So I'm assuming there was a lot of pressure because

643
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 4: people look at it like, you got a hundred million dollars, right,

644
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 4: So how was that signing that one hundred million dollars

645
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 4: deal but then only actually having thirty seven guaranteed.

646
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 5: Pressure when I signed my first contract. Because my first

647
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 5: contract was like, uh, it's a rookie. It was five years,

648
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 5: sixty two million, eleven million fully guaranteed.

649
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: Everybody thought I had you got it, he.

650
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 5: Got it, And I really do wish I had this

651
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 5: sixty two million because but you know that's gonna come

652
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 5: in time, you know, if it's five year.

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Speaker 5: But I learned quickly, and I was always up in

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Speaker 5: my finances and me and my mom used to always

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Speaker 5: take a closer look because we didn't we didn't know

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Speaker 5: and once we've seen it and we knew we had

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Speaker 5: always thinking long term to make sure that when I

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Speaker 5: did retire, that I retired in a good state. And

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Speaker 5: so even as a rookie when my signing bonus was

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Speaker 5: three million, when I got to three million, it was

714
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Speaker 5: at one point now and I'm like, oh, man, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I got to get to that next contract if I

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Speaker 5: want to, you know, live the life I want to

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Speaker 5: live when I retired. This at twenty years old, but

718
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 5: I'm thinking retirement in ten years. You don't know if

719
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Speaker 5: you're gonna get that second contract. You don't know how

720
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Speaker 5: good you're gonna be. You don't know if you're gonna

721
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Speaker 5: be a bus or it's just the unknown, and you know,

722
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Speaker 5: people fear that.

723
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Speaker 3: I know, so it was fear there.

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Speaker 5: But I was like, yo, if I just take care

725
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 5: of my finances, then I don't have to worry about

726
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 5: what I do on the field. I can just perform.

727
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 5: And so fast forward to two thousand and four. When

728
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 5: I got that contract, I was in a good state.

729
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 5: I think I had about five million saved up just

730
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Speaker 5: from all league you know what I'm saying, from three

731
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 5: years of playing and buy my mama house and kind

732
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Speaker 5: of you know, taking care of myself and my family.

733
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Speaker 5: And then I got the big contract, and so right

734
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Speaker 5: then and now I was like, Okay, financially I'm set,

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Speaker 5: you know. Now it's about making the right choices investing

736
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Speaker 5: and making the money grow.

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Speaker 3: So that's still in Atlanta.

738
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Speaker 6: But then in Philly you get are you the first

739
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 6: player to get two one hundred million dollar contracts?

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Speaker 5: You are the first man? I guess, too big signing.

741
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 5: So like, explain what the contract is? Yeah, you want

742
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 5: to call it one hundred yeah?

743
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, well paper, So the Atlanta one sets you up

744
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 6: right financially you're secure? Yeah, the Philly one, now are

745
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 6: you looking at it differently? Like all right, now it's

746
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 6: time to sit down and figure out what the investments

747
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 6: are going to look like.

748
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. After I get up the.

749
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Speaker 5: Field, Philly contract was more so I was in the

750
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Speaker 5: bankruptcy at the time from coming out of prison. I

751
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 5: still don't know how that happened, but yeah, I was

752
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 5: in the bankruptcy coming out coming out of prison, and

753
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 5: so now you know, I'm there's more money that's been

754
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 5: It's not just paying taxes. Now you got you know,

755
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Speaker 5: a whole nother burell that you gotta pay. So now

756
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 5: I'm really cracking down on the finances, like all right, bo,

757
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 5: I'm looking at when I I can sustain that's okay,

758
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 5: that's that's feasible. And then you know, like I say,

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia gave me the contract and I was thankful, Like

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00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 5: they knew the state that I was in. They knew

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Speaker 5: that I was grinded and trying to get back. And

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Speaker 5: that's why some people, man, you just got to be

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Speaker 5: so thankful for him could because they didn't have to

764
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Speaker 5: do that. I earned it. But you know, Andy not

765
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Speaker 5: saying he gave it to me or they wanted you

766
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Speaker 5: need to be financially free.

767
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Speaker 3: You knew the state I was in. I talked to

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Speaker 3: Andy about everything.

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Speaker 5: He knew what was going on in my life from

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Speaker 5: A to Z, and so to be able to get

771
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 5: that at the time, it was like, all right, man,

772
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Speaker 5: I work hard for this. I just got to make

773
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Speaker 5: sure I take care of it because you know, I'm

774
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Speaker 5: busting it down. You know what I'm saying, It's getting

775
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 5: busted down in thirds.

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Speaker 3: But what's also new in the NFL is equity and ownership. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Is that something that you've ever thought that or looking

778
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Speaker 6: forward to? Obviously the Falcons just did it. They had

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Speaker 6: a small group because people don't realize enough for the franchises.

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00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: Have been here for a long time. Yeah. Giants are

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Speaker 3: celebrating one hundred years. Yeah.

782
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Speaker 6: I just looked at the purchase price in nineteen twenty three.

783
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Speaker 6: They were purchased for five hundred dollars. Five hundred dollars.

784
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Speaker 6: The Commanders would just hold for six point two billion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The Giants are valued probably more than that.

786
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 6: And so if they never sell the team, then they

787
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Speaker 6: never really have the liquidation events yep. And so they're

788
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Speaker 6: tarning to take equity to do it. Yeah, so you

789
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 6: signed to see that now. Is that something that you

790
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Speaker 6: think about ownership inside of a team?

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Speaker 5: I would love to you know what I'm saying. I

792
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 5: think that's another way to build financial wealth. But you

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Speaker 5: got in line with the right people and the right

794
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 5: partners at the right time. One of my good friends

795
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 5: who's affiliated with the Lanta Falcons. Got a percentage and

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Speaker 5: got a piece. But you know, that's not something that

797
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Speaker 5: I'm looking for. It's not something that I wake up

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Speaker 5: and say, you know this, this is what I want

799
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Speaker 5: to set my you know, set my heart out to do.

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Speaker 5: If it happens, it happens, if the opportunity presents itself.

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Speaker 5: There are other entities that I got an opportunity to

802
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 5: be involved in. From a financial standpoint, that can be

803
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 5: a really good situation. Some some things is coming in Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: So right now, I'm just really in a good state, uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, just with the people that that I'm centering

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00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 5: around and the relationships that I have. And I think

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Speaker 5: as you get older, that's really important to surround yourself

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Speaker 5: with the right people who can help you on a

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Speaker 5: day to day basis make decisions and put you in

810
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Speaker 5: the right situations that's gonna be beneficial for you.

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Speaker 4: So, from a financial standpoint, what's your advice to players,

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00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: because a lot of there's a lot of hard stories

813
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 4: as far as people getting robbed by their accountings, financial advisors,

814
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 4: making bad decisions. The list goes on from different maybe

815
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Speaker 4: mom that they got to pay child support and not

816
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 4: fully understanding how contracts work, spending too much money, bad

817
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 4: real estate deals. I'm sure you've probably seen it all.

818
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Speaker 4: So what what's your advice to players as far as

819
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Speaker 4: you know, avoiding falls that athletes have been prone to

820
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Speaker 4: fall into.

821
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Speaker 3: Yeah, my advice is that.

822
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 5: You know, you know how to count, you know how

823
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 5: to do audition and subtraction, and keep it that simple.

824
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 5: If there's an investment that you want to get involved in,

825
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 5: I say, you know, just perceive a caution and don't

826
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Speaker 5: overwhelm yourself.

827
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Speaker 3: Don't be thrown around millions of dollars. You know.

828
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Speaker 5: Uh God comes and says, oh yeah, were about to

829
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Speaker 5: you know, build this uh duplex over here, and it

830
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Speaker 5: costs five million.

831
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Speaker 3: We need a million dollars. Now, how about I give

832
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Speaker 3: you two hundred.

833
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 5: Thousand dollars first and let me and or introduce me

834
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Speaker 5: to the investment group or the people that's involved. How

835
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 5: we how we gonna you know, financially buy this property,

836
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 5: you know, make sure that they can fully function and

837
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 5: then also get a return. You know, you got to

838
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 5: ask questions, but sometimes you ask questions and you get

839
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 5: the answers that people want to give you if they

840
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 5: know you naive and they know you don't know, then

841
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 5: they can tell you anything. And so you got to

842
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 5: read the room. And that's why I say in the beginning,

843
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 5: don't go invest in millions of dollars. Like I gave

844
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Speaker 5: a financial advisor eight million dollars when I was in Atlanta.

845
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Speaker 5: I gave it to him because I had a lot

846
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Speaker 5: and I wanted to grow it. And he took it

847
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Speaker 5: and pretty much put it into what he wanted to

848
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Speaker 5: put it into. And then when I was going through

849
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Speaker 5: a rough time and I had to liquidate because of

850
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Speaker 5: the trouble, I got in to pay back, you know,

851
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Speaker 5: creditors to whoever wasn't I couldn't look with it. I

852
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 5: couldn't find them, couldn't lick with they did. I'm just

853
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 5: forced to file bankrupt.

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Speaker 3: What was it put in? Like a real estate deal?

855
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Speaker 5: It was in a big real estate I mean it

856
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 5: was an amazing deal. Now we was pretty much building

857
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 5: the city, you know, strip malls, movie theater. Yeah, yeah,

858
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 5: for sure. It was a hellicon Union city. It was

859
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Speaker 5: a hell of a plan, hell of a plan. And

860
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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, y'all, you know what, I just

861
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Speaker 5: spied to them, bro, I'm trying to grow, you know,

862
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Speaker 5: my You know what I'm saying, this is my portfolio.

863
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to grow it.

864
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Speaker 5: I'm twenty I'm twenty five, twenty six years old, and

865
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Speaker 5: I told you I always stayed ahead. I always think

866
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Speaker 5: about my finances. Couldn't amount of millions and accounting. I'm like, oh,

867
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Speaker 5: I can live off that because I already got everything

868
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Speaker 5: that I need and I'm still playing, and I know

869
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Speaker 5: what I'm making this year and I know what I got.

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Speaker 5: All right, take that, and so those the type of

871
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Speaker 5: situations that you can fall into. I feel like I

872
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Speaker 5: was never supposed to file for bankruptcy.

873
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: How'd that happen?

874
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 5: When you're in prison and you can't make phone calls

875
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 5: and talk to people and catch up with people, they

876
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 5: run off.

877
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: I'm just being candid, you know what I'm saying.

878
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 5: I know we having a conversation about other things, but

879
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 5: you act and sometimes I feel like therapeutic for me

880
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 5: to talk about the pitfalls and the things I got

881
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 5: for him. You ask how you know what I'm saying,

882
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 5: Just to be where are your people and just know

883
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 5: the situations that you're getting into, because you can get

884
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 5: taken full advantage of. And that's why I tell young

885
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 5: men and women don't go invest in millions of dollars.

886
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: It would have softened the blow for me.

887
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 5: I'd have been okay if i'd have gave him a

888
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 5: two million as opposed to eight. Now I got room

889
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 5: to work work around certain situations. So yeah, man, you

890
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 5: got to be smart with your money because that's your

891
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 5: money at the end of the day.

892
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: And learn at the same time. Yeah, I mean we

893
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: have to learn from our heroes.

894
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so like to see you speak about it,

895
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 6: to see you be vulnerable about it.

896
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 3: They're gonna learn from it for sure.

897
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 6: I think one of the most important piece is when

898
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 6: you're talking to Dion in the documentary and he says,

899
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 6: obviously you had to come back, but he didn't realize

900
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 6: you a whole until you saw you with the family.

901
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 3: I know your wife is ep on the project.

902
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 6: Talk about that, the process of working together on something

903
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 6: that's so important to the sport but to you as

904
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 6: a union, like you're doing something together, you're working with

905
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 6: your wife talking about that.

906
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: It's fun when you get to work with your companion.

907
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 5: Man, it's also nerve racking at the same time because

908
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 5: a lot of the things it in relationships, you know,

909
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 5: you bump here is and you don't see how to

910
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 5: aunt certain things. So it's like, yo, I should ask

911
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 5: this question now, y'all used to ask that question. Her

912
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 5: and to producer to get together and they devise a

913
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 5: plan and it all turned out to be, you know,

914
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 5: the best thing that we could have done. You know

915
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 5: what I'm saying in terms of right now, But yeah, man,

916
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 5: just being a good listener, you know what I'm saying,

917
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 5: following the game plan, just liking football, trusting her judgment,

918
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 5: you know, trusting other producers judgments and what they believe in.

919
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 5: And I don't have all the answers sometimes, but I

920
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 5: can walk in the room and if it's football related,

921
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 5: I probably can answer more questions than anybody. It's not

922
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 5: that we're all time. When you know, you stepping in

923
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 5: a different arena. You know, that's their arena. They produce

924
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 5: and they ep projects. And this is not the first rodeo,

925
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 5: but for me, it was my first time. I was

926
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 5: just really blessed to be the talent and this I

927
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 5: felt like to be able to do the interviews and

928
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 5: sit down with all these guys and you know, gain

929
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 5: the understanding of their football life and their football journey,

930
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 5: like I said, and so in talking to my wife's like,

931
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 5: that's what we set out to do that, that's what

932
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 5: the plan was. When y'all I pitched this to you

933
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 5: in the car, would you do this? I was like, cool, Yeah,

934
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 5: sound like a hell of a solid project. Let's do it.

935
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 5: So when it was time to do it and make suggestions,

936
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 5: and sometimes I just had to shut up and listen,

937
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 5: and it turned out for the better.

938
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: To follow out real quick.

939
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 6: So in terms of creating it, because a lot of

940
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 6: people don't even know the process of creating documentary all

941
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 6: y'all self under it. And then the other part is

942
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 6: it's coming out on Prime. Correct, it's coming out on Prime?

943
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 6: Was I'm Prome? So you got to picture to two

944
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 6: different you had to picture, Yeah, what's that process?

945
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: I see? I didn't know a lot about that process.

946
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: You know.

947
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 5: All I knew was the money and being the talent.

948
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. You know, I learned it,

949
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 5: and I learned so much in this Like I'm ready

950
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 5: to move forward, but I can't take other people's con

951
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 5: I got my own concepts of me and my team,

952
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 5: my crew, and wife got her own concepts to what

953
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 5: they about to go do. But now I know, like

954
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 5: little stuff got to start out with a sizzle, put

955
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 5: that together. Somebody got to funded. It's either gonna be you,

956
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 5: somebody else or some partners. And and so I learned

957
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 5: and a collective effort you can get to the end game.

958
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 5: But a little quicker, you know, she was instrumental in

959
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 5: the concept. I was able to put the money together

960
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 5: and they was able to execute and get it sold.

961
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 5: So teamwork. And I was like, I say, blessed to

962
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 5: be the talent in it. I see so much good

963
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 5: in it. Man, I just wanted wanting to always feel

964
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 5: like damn man, Like if the league don't embrace us

965
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 5: as black quarterbacks, man, we never get an opportunity to

966
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 5: line up and say hut for the Tennessee Titans or

967
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 5: the Philadelphia Eagles or the Baltimore Ravens. Man. The league

968
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 5: has come so far bro from where it was. And

969
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 5: maybe it was just stereotypes from the outside world. It

970
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 5: might not even have been inside the NFL world. It's

971
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 5: just so much pressure can accumulate from fans and people,

972
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 5: and you hear about these guys get hate mail and

973
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 5: all that. So if Doug Willims getting hate mail. Can

974
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 5: you imagine what's coming to the facility, the organization. They've

975
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 5: seen the same thing, and so pressure comes from all sides.

976
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 5: But it takes somebody to stand up say you know what, man,

977
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 5: screw that. I don't care, Doug gonna be my quarterback.

978
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 5: You start in the super Bowl today, broken barrier. And

979
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 5: I think when people do it, they don't even maybe

980
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 5: they think about doing it. This might be the first

981
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 5: black quarter when I got dropped a number one, first

982
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 5: black quarterbacks.

983
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 3: And I don't know.

984
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 5: I don't necessarily think Damn Reeds was trying to break

985
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 5: a barrier. I think he was doing what he thought

986
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 5: was right, the right thing to do in his heart.

987
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: Obviously he wanted to win.

988
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 5: And you know Arthur Smith, who was the on at

989
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 5: the time, did the same thing. They felt the same way.

990
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 5: Y'all don't care what color he is. Y'all black, white

991
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 5: and different. Yo, I need you come on. And that

992
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 5: meant a lot, man. And when I was on a podium,

993
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 5: they was like, Yo, you know you just made a history.

994
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, Yo, that's the last thing I'm thinking. But

995
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 5: looking at it twenty five years later or even ten

996
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 5: years later, it's like, man, Damn. That was a big

997
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 5: moment because when because Cam went number one a couple

998
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 5: of years later. But man, I always referenced and as

999
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 5: you're saying in The Doctor ninety nine draft Man, when

1000
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 5: Donovan and Kelly Smith, Dante, Cole Pepper, Sean King, when

1001
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 5: all them boys went, I was like, yo, I got

1002
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 5: a shot. I'm not playing quarterback for no reason. For

1003
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 5: a lot of years, I felt like I was playing

1004
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 5: quarterback just to get put in another position.

1005
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 3: When did you feel confident that you now, this is it,

1006
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 3: this is my position.

1007
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 5: Like I say, ninety nine, I was at Virginia Tech,

1008
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 5: and it was rough at Virginia Tech in the beginning

1009
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 5: because I had a tough time picking up offense.

1010
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: Like I said, I didn't.

1011
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 5: I wasn't fortunate enough to go to camps and learn

1012
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 5: from quarterback coaches early like these kids can do now.

1013
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 5: So when I got there, I was raw. I really

1014
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 5: didn't know how to like compartmentalize the offense, and you

1015
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 5: know how to learn it, what it takes to learn it.

1016
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 3: It took about four months for me to learn the offense.

1017
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 5: But when I finally got it, I was able to

1018
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 5: pair that up with the athleticism and then that's when

1019
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 5: I became a dynamic player. But it all starts with

1020
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 5: your mental You got to know what you're doing first,

1021
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 5: and then that the physical talent come out. It was

1022
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 5: a rough ride. It was a tough journey man. Like

1023
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 5: I said, weighed a lot on my mental health, Like

1024
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 5: do I play quarterback? Do I switch it? I'm running

1025
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 5: out of time over here. I'm being read shirt freshman

1026
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 5: next year, true freshman. And one day, Man, I was

1027
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 5: just watching the film. Coach told me, every day, keep

1028
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 5: coming to the film room, keep coming, just make sure

1029
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 5: you keep don't stop believing in yourself and coming and

1030
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 5: watching this film and trying to get better. And one

1031
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 5: day I was just looking at the film, bro and

1032
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 5: the whole football world just came together for me.

1033
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 4: Before we wrap, just a few football questions, Pat Mahomes, Yeah,

1034
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 4: is he.

1035
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 3: Some have said that he's the greatest quarterback of all time?

1036
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 3: If not number two?

1037
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 5: It's the contrary one greatest quarterback.

1038
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: Who's the greatest quarterback? Tom Brady? Okay? And is he

1039
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 3: is he on pace to be the greatest quarterback of

1040
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 3: all going pace? He's Patrick? Is Is he number two?

1041
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 3: Number two? Right now? He's number two? As a forty

1042
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: nine guy. You're gonnaut him in front of Montana. Yes,

1043
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: he just did you. I mean, I just want to

1044
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 3: read how.

1045
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 5: Iterated Montanna had four rings, but Montanna won't Patrick, Montana

1046
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 5: had Rice. Yeah, Patrick had Tyreek Hill for a couple

1047
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 5: of years, got the greatest tight end of all time.

1048
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 5: I mean nothing Kelsey, my boy, not taking nothing away

1049
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 5: from Kelsey, but Kelsey is a tight end, you know

1050
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, which makes it even more prolific for

1051
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 5: him because to be the greatest tight and one of

1052
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 5: the greatest tight ends because I put him up there

1053
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 5: with Tony Gonzalez was a great tight end and it

1054
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 5: was you know, grounk. You know what I'm saying. It's

1055
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 5: about five of them that they can all be number

1056
00:53:58,719 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 5: one for sure.

1057
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 3: Nothing another has done with Kelsey's done now.

1058
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he also has terrible well he has not

1059
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 4: have good receivers my home.

1060
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 5: Put the Hall of Fame. But I'm talking abou Tyreek

1061
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 5: for a couple of years. Yeah, but he's all yeah, yeah,

1062
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 5: all in all man, because he ain't about the tight end.

1063
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 5: Kelsey is great. They all great. But when you're talking

1064
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 5: about quarterback play, Patrick could do a little bit more

1065
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 5: than Joe. Yes, you know what I'm saying, move like this.

1066
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 5: The game last night is crazy, you know what I'm saying.

1067
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 5: That was crazy, and so he can move just enough,

1068
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 5: joke and move to man. Look, I do see Patrick

1069
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 5: getting two more.

1070
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 3: At least I see it.

1071
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 6: This is a football I got two more football questions

1072
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 6: because you brought up ninety nine. Was there ever a

1073
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 6: time when you were on the field and you looked

1074
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 6: on the opposing side or even on your side and said,

1075
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 6: there's a better athlete on the field than me. Because

1076
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 6: when I'm of the ninety nine and we ran into

1077
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 6: him recently, Peter Warick was on that field. Yeah, and

1078
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 6: to me, one of the their list players I've ever seen.

1079
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, playing against Florida State that year, it's like.

1080
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 5: It's like one of the games that you know, like, yo,

1081
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 5: we're probably gonna lose this game. I just got to

1082
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 5: play my heart out and I got to give it

1083
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 5: everything I got from start to finish because he's gonna

1084
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 5: make some plays.

1085
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1086
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 5: It's just saying, you know, you can't stop him. You

1087
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 5: can only hope to contain him. There was that type

1088
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 5: of deal going into the game. They had so many

1089
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 5: amazing athletes, Like I think they had like four first

1090
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 5: rounders on that team, probably like fifteen guys who got

1091
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 5: drafted from that one team alone.

1092
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 3: And they was just real fast.

1093
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 5: It was in the era where you know, the great

1094
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 5: Bobby Batoin was probably at the height of his recruiting

1095
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, tenure, and he was getting

1096
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 5: the best of the best athletes, you know what I'm saying.

1097
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 5: And so I felt it me being as fast and

1098
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 5: as elusive as I was, and being on turf, they

1099
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 5: just kind of outmatched this a little bit in certain areas. Uh.

1100
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 5: And why I do think we had the team to

1101
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 5: beat him, we had two more quarters, we might have

1102
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 5: walked them down.

1103
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 3: Was just he caught a bomb in the third quarter

1104
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 3: and we just knew it. Damn. So got loose on this,

1105
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1106
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 4: Well, the black quarterback also has transitioned in college as well,

1107
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 4: n il deals. Yeah, man, And we can't we got

1108
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 4: to talk about Shandor Sanders Colorado.

1109
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, baby boy.

1110
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 4: So I mean he got a lamb truck in college,

1111
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 4: right and get millions of dollars. So how good do

1112
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 4: you think he can be and what how do you think, like,

1113
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 4: what would you have done?

1114
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 3: As far as the NIL deal has changed this.

1115
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 4: It's even the reason why savan quit, we said, because

1116
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 4: like he didn't want to compete with that. As far

1117
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 4: as raising five million dollars year, it was just it

1118
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 4: was just it's a whole different retired to set the ball.

1119
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 4: How you feel about NIL and should do of the

1120
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 4: N I l I.

1121
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 5: Love that these guys got an opportunity to go make

1122
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 5: money for their name, image and likeness.

1123
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 3: You know. I think it's just that you know what

1124
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 3: I'm saying and clear. But for a guy like.

1125
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 5: Should Do, I got different perspectives. Chaudor pretty much been

1126
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 5: in the same offense for the last couple of years,

1127
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 5: so he didn't have to change coordinators when they came

1128
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 5: from Jackson State to Colorado. I think Pat Sherman now

1129
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 5: is a uh, you know, probably the same things he's doing.

1130
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 5: He's doing conceptually, it's not too far from what he learned.

1131
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 5: What scares me about the NIL is that you know,

1132
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 5: kids just going from different teams to a different team

1133
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 5: year after year after learn and learn these offenses.

1134
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 3: It's really hard to.

1135
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 5: Learn and so you get there and you got paid

1136
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 5: a million dollars in it. It's a guy that's that's

1137
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 5: been there for two years already and you you got

1138
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 5: to learn, but he already know more than you.

1139
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 3: HM.

1140
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 5: So if you're not exceptional, if you don't have Shador

1141
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 5: saying this talent and a bring like Shador, then he's

1142
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 5: probably that quarterback is probably gonna look better than you.

1143
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 3: You probably gonna struggle.

1144
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 5: DJ like good lady. I can't say his name. The

1145
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 5: quarterback in Florida State went to three different teams Clemson,

1146
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 5: Oregon State, in State, now Florida State or they might

1147
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 5: be on for I don't know if they lost.

1148
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 3: They won last week. Good, I'm happy.

1149
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 5: You know, you got to learn all these different concepts

1150
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 5: and man, you're just not comfortable.

1151
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 3: It takes time to get comfortable.

1152
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 5: You got to go out and practice it against the

1153
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 5: defense and learn from your mistakes. And you know what

1154
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 5: I'm saying, try to find ways to you know what

1155
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 5: I'm saying, move the chains and get better. And that's

1156
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 5: it's just not easy when you get learning. But I

1157
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 5: do support Nil Shador. You know, he he's worth every

1158
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 5: penny from what he got to go through on Saturdays.

1159
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 5: And you know, he got the team that's just getting

1160
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 5: better and these guys earning that money.

1161
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 3: Man, it's it's a lot, you know what I'm saying.

1162
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 3: But I think.

1163
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 5: You know, in due time, you know, I think a

1164
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 5: lot of that to be dispersed amongst the team. I

1165
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 5: think that's important. Hey, somebody got to do it.

1166
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 6: To door is number one, n Il number two, and

1167
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 6: I'm not sure if you watch him play last week

1168
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 6: Archie Man and ye, now we knew the pedigree is

1169
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 6: there from the throwing, but last two weeks ago he

1170
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 6: clocked in at twenty point seven miles per hour on

1171
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 6: the field.

1172
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 3: Who is that? Paying Man's nephew at Texas? Who's his father?

1173
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 3: His father is? This is Cooper?

1174
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 6: He didn't make it to the NFL. He had a

1175
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 6: spine injury that derailed him in college. Got me thinking, right,

1176
00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 6: fastest athletes that's played at the position? Putting you, I'm

1177
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 6: putting Lamar and I have to kind of put him

1178
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 6: at He's running faster than Tyree Oh whoa you?

1179
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 3: Arch Manning? He ran twenty saying quarterback, quarterback, quarterback bo.

1180
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 6: What he clocked the faster time than Tyreek Killer was

1181
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 6: just a one sprint he's not a fast player.

1182
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 3: Well, if you ran a sprint of twenty point seven,

1183
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 3: let's think this through thing about this.

1184
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 6: Let's think because because Tyreek is catching it and running

1185
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 6: and I'm not saying that spring.

1186
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 3: He's not wearing one hundred mini dash. I'm saying open field,

1187
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 3: he ran twenty point seven. But that's one run. I

1188
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 3: don't care what it is. Bro, you're on the field,

1189
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 3: you want twenty point seven. That's faster than the fastest

1190
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 3: guy in the NFL.

1191
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 6: So I'm thinking, like, at your top speed fastest quarterbacks,

1192
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 6: you lamar, who else is running him?

1193
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 3: Not in this class? Gonna come to Willisie Wilson is

1194
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 3: in there. He's up there. League.

1195
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 5: Willis will definitely run a four four forty or he'll

1196
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 5: get out quick, really quick.

1197
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 3: RG three.

1198
01:00:54,280 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 5: That's my guy. Algie three was fast. Not too many

1199
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 5: more that's gonna move like that. Oh can't can't forget

1200
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 5: about cam speak. Yeah, I think more of him as

1201
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 5: power both it is Google it, Yeah, google cam highlights

1202
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 5: in Auburn, Google cam highlights, and and I watched early Carolina.

1203
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, he probably clocked you know, twenty plus a

1204
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 5: couple of times.

1205
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's about five of us that it was

1206
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 3: in the four to four.

1207
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 6: Club you played in this era right now, pistol offense

1208
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 6: with the rules, any offense the rules catered to not

1209
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 6: hit the quarterback. What does Michael Vick look like in

1210
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four as NFL?

1211
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 5: Well, I think you know that rule certainly fluctuates for

1212
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 5: a mobile quarterback. Well most of the guys mobile anyway.

1213
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 5: So let's just like I shouldn't even say that. Everybody

1214
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 5: just do a threat and can run now. So yeah,

1215
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 5: I just think in terms of performance, I'm gonna be

1216
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 5: up at the top of the league, just like I

1217
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 5: was when I was twenty four one. I got a

1218
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 5: great understanding of the game. I do think that coaching Matterson,

1219
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 5: that gotta be with the coach like Amy Reed or

1220
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 5: Matt Laflour or Sean McVay or Kyle Shanahan. You know,

1221
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 5: he looking at MVP, you know, type of numbers and performances.

1222
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, I just can't end up these

1223
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 5: days with a coach that don't know how to use you.

1224
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 5: Prime example, the Carolina Panthers. I don't know anything about

1225
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 5: their coaching staff, but I know Brice Young shouldn't have

1226
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 5: looked the way he looked, And you know, all you

1227
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 5: gotta do is look around the league and see what's

1228
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 5: going on around the league to help your player be

1229
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 5: become a better player.

1230
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: It's not rocket science.

1231
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 5: I think it's all about, you know, sequence and having

1232
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 5: a flow of how to get a quarterback into a

1233
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 5: rhythm and feeling good about what he's seeing and what

1234
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 5: he got to go do and execute on each and

1235
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 5: every place. So, yeah, everybody can't be a coach in

1236
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 5: the National Football League, I don't think.

1237
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's kind of been the talk now is that

1238
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 6: the guys should be sitting behind the staring quarterback or

1239
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 6: the quarterback who's been there he was never supposed to. Yeah,

1240
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 6: Sandy Dalton won this week, so it looks crazy. But

1241
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 6: then there's as you thats Cam to ce J Stroud.

1242
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 6: Now the talk is Caleb Williams, maybe he's not ready

1243
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 6: to start playing.

1244
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 5: It's tough when you don't have And I won't say

1245
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 5: these guys don't have talent, but you don't have a coach.

1246
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 3: And I'm not taking anything away from these coaches. I'm

1247
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 3: just saying.

1248
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 5: There's no reason why they shouldn't be able to generate

1249
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 5: no offense when you can't generate no offense.

1250
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 3: I think that comes down to coaching.

1251
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 5: On our worst days in Philly, be A scored twenty

1252
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 5: eight points and that's when Andy was like, he wasn't

1253
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 5: even called in the place when I was there. Mardy

1254
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 5: morning Wig, who was a great coordinator, was called in

1255
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 5: the place. But Andy here input and we still average

1256
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 5: thirty points a game somewhere around that. So I just

1257
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 5: know what good coach it looked like. I know what

1258
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 5: Dan Reeves pouring to me. I know what Greg nap

1259
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 5: Jim more important to me. I had Bib Patrino Hcopy,

1260
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 5: I had Chip Kelly, and I had Andy, and so

1261
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 5: I've been around some of the best offensive minds, and

1262
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 5: so I know how you got to put a game

1263
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 5: play together in order to be successful on Sundays.

1264
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 3: Well, we can talk football day. But thank you for

1265
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 3: your time. Yes, amazing man. How can the people watch

1266
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 3: the documentary? Like, what's the all the information? You go

1267
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 3: to Amazon Prime and check it out.

1268
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure everybody out there got Amazon accounts, man,

1269
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 5: So don't get one man.

1270
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 3: Check it out on Amazon Prime.

1271
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 5: It's the evolution of the black quarterback celebration of how

1272
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 5: far we've come and the opportunities we've been giving and

1273
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 5: celebration for the NFL and for dual threat quarterbacks as

1274
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 5: a whole.

1275
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 3: So really good project, man, some very interesting stories, man,

1276
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 3: and this was done.

1277
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 5: So are you out there who said I loosenized the position?

1278
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 5: I appreciate that I did. But there was a couple

1279
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 5: that came before me to help me.

1280
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 4: So check it out before you need five, your top

1281
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 4: five black quarterbacks?

1282
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 3: Oh, in order for black quarterbacks all time, over time.

1283
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 5: Ever, let me rat lines down right now. Okay, I'm

1284
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 5: just so Donovan at five, no particular, no particular order, Okay, Doug, Okay, Oh.

1285
01:05:49,120 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 3: Man, it's Warren Marlon, Brisco Randall. This is your favorite

1286
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 3: because not having crazy Cam Russell. Yeah, Russell Lamar yourself, myself, Patrick,

1287
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 3: You're not in there. It's in the top ten. Bro.

1288
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 3: What's your fist? Mike?

1289
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes Randall Cunningham because that's the first person that

1290
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 4: I like. How he revolutionized to his father, he played

1291
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 4: a major part. I think that Warren Moon is underrated.

1292
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 3: That legend.

1293
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 4: Make sure y'all checked legend. And Russell Wilson I think

1294
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 4: is underrated too. I think it's it's unfortunate how his

1295
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 4: career is playing out now. But we can't act like

1296
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 4: he didn't almost win two super bowl He should have won.

1297
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 4: He should have two super Bowls under his belt. Well,

1298
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 4: he's the reason he didn't win the second one?

1299
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 3: Him? Was it?

1300
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 6: Pete Carroll him how and Whyshawn Lynz gave an interview

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Speaker 6: and he said, if there's any other quarterback, he changed the.

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Speaker 3: Play in the huddle. It don't matter what the coach

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Speaker 3: head coach gives you. I don't care about new quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: You just named. Russell got a super Bowl. Yeah, Patrick

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Speaker 3: got a super Bowl. Ye. Lamar got two m VP,

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Speaker 3: no super Bowl. He's in my five. Yeah, Cam Gota

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Speaker 3: went to a super Bowl. Cam's my five them dudes.

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Speaker 6: Man, I got past east bro Pat, you, Lamar, Warren

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Speaker 6: and Kim and I would put an asterisk Washington.

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Speaker 3: So RG three Yeah, Now.

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Speaker 5: RG three didn't play as long because he got He

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Speaker 5: didn't have a lot.

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Speaker 6: They shouldn't have if he he towards a c L,

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Speaker 6: they kept him in the game. They should have be Seattle.

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Speaker 6: Seattle went to the Super Bowl and one that yet,

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Speaker 6: but they're at home. The grass is terrible in Washington.

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Speaker 3: You know you played there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we all felt like he's like cringe and watching

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Speaker 5: RG three, it's ridiculous, like slide think about or you know,

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Speaker 5: it's always next year. I think he had proven a

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Speaker 5: lot that year that he could play in the league. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's gonna be a good quarterback for a long time.

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Speaker 3: Because Andrew Luck was supposed to be a god. But

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Speaker 3: that's just the mentality of us as quarterbacks. Man, when

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Speaker 3: we all in, we all in, and he was all in.

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Speaker 5: He was trying to he was trying to make history

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Speaker 5: and so you know, shout out to RG and just

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Speaker 5: him pushing to be be the best he could be

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Speaker 5: in that moment.

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Speaker 3: Mike Pleasure, my brother, appreciate you. Man. This is dope. Man.

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Speaker 3: Make sure y'all watched the documentary. Please check it out.

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Speaker 6: Hey, y'all got accounts. Y'all not watching Thursday night football

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Speaker 6: if y'all don't got to count. So I know y'all

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Speaker 6: got accounts, so you'll better watch it.

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Speaker 3: A yeah, Fee an.

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Speaker 1: Illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 1: An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador accused of

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Speaker 1: murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with filming and

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Speaker 1: selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just some of

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Speaker 1: the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President Donald J.

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Speaker 1: Trump's leadership. I'm Christine Noman, the United States Secretary of

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Speaker 1: Homeland Security. Under President and Trump, attempted illegal border crossings

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Speaker 1: are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over one

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you are

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Speaker 1: here illegally, your next you will be fine nearly one

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars a day, imprisoned and deported, you will never return.

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Speaker 1: But if you register using our CBP home app and

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Speaker 1: leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. Do

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Speaker 1: what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America's laws, border

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Speaker 1: and families.

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Speaker 2: Will be protected. Sponsored by the United States Department of

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Speaker 2: Homeland Security.