1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: I am all in again. 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 2: Let's just do Luke Steiner with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I amal and podcast one of 4 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: them productions iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcast. Another edition of Luke's Dining. 5 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: We have a very special, very special guest. I'm particularly 6 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: excited because this superstar, this icon is from the music 7 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: side of the entertainment business. Carney Wilson is joining us. Carney, welcome. 8 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: We are thrilled to have you. 9 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: I'm glad to be here. Scott. How are you. 10 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: I am doing exceedingly well. Let me you know, for 11 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: those of you who have been living under a rock 12 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: for the past thirty years. 13 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: Uh. 14 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: Carney is a legendary singer songwriter, part of the trio 15 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: Wilson Phillips. Five Grammys, you know, just little stuff like. 16 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: That Grammy nominations. 17 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: I was going to say nominated. I was going to 18 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: say nominations. 19 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: I was waiting for you'd see it right behind me, 20 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 2: like lined up. 21 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, just a Grammy nomination, not accomplished at all, no 22 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: big deal. And by the way, just on a personal note, 23 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: love the cover of California Dream and just love it. 24 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: Thank you you did it such justice. Uh and in 25 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: some ways it was even better, if that's even possible. 26 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: But it was just the most charming it. I got 27 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: joked up listening to it last night. It's one of 28 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite songs. 29 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite songs too. And you know, 30 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: my husband Rob produced that produced that particular one, our 31 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: cover of it. He produced that whole album that we did. 32 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: It was an album dedicated to our parents, and he 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: did a really good job. Yeah, it's beautiful, tell him 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: that it was. 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: It was just gorgeous. Every detail that song was. I mean, 36 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: he enhanced what was already there, and there was at 37 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: some new things, but not too much, you know, And 38 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: it was just great. God. And I listened to hold On, 39 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: I listened to I watched the original video and it's 40 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: just such great, great harmonizing. And I just missed that 41 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: so much because I you know, I I grew up 42 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: in that in the sixties and the seventies and and 43 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: and those harmonies were a huge part of CSN why 44 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: and you know, all these great groups and the Beatles, 45 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: and so I'm used to that and I love that, 46 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: and nobody really does it anymore, you guys, do it 47 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: so well. Oh that hold On song was such detail 48 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: and the melody is so complex, yet it doesn't come 49 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: off that. I was just great stuff, so really really 50 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: happy to talk. You come from a family of music, yes, 51 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: but I hear cooking is another love language of yours. 52 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: Where did that come from? 53 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I've always been a foodie, you know, 54 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: But I think actually my grandmother, my mom's mom, May, 55 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: Grandma May was a great cook, just a just a 56 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: little Jewish grandma who you know, would just I remember 57 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: rolling Manza balls with her. Just have these memories of 58 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: having my little step stool near her sink and we 59 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 2: would just roll the lots of balls, roll the lots 60 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: of balls. And her Manza balls were amazing because she 61 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 2: made them with a chicken fat, and so they were 62 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: like they were more dense. They weren't light and fluffy. 63 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: I like a more dense Manza ball. And hers she 64 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: used to she did this thing where she would take 65 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: a strainer and she when she made the broth for 66 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: the chicken soup, she would put the carrots, the celery, 67 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: the onion, she'd put a turkey leg, she would do 68 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: a tomato, and then she would when the carrots were 69 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: and I think it was all cooked. She would take 70 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: out all the vegetables strain it, but then she would 71 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: some of the cooked carrots and she would strain them 72 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: through the colander. The mesh, little tiny fin, little flex 73 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: of carrot would be in the soup and it was 74 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: really good. So I think my initial like introduction to 75 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: food came from her. 76 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Right, So tell me about everybody's got their secret ingredients. 77 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: What do you use? 78 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: What are some of your secret ingredients that you use 79 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: if you can reveal that. 80 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: I do have a few. One is cardamom. I am 81 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: a big cardamom lover. And it can be as like 82 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: intense or not as you want it to be. So 83 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: when I bake, I love to make cakes, and I 84 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: usually add cardamom unless it's a flavor that's weird like 85 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: funky with it, like I don't know. I mean, I 86 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: might add it with strawberry, but I mean all my vanillas, 87 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: my lemons, even chocolate I have. But cardamom is very special. 88 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: It's really great with like lemon and white chocolate. There's 89 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: something very magical about cardamom with lemon and white chocolate together. 90 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: So that's a secret ingredient. And you know, honestly, I'm 91 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: an herb and I'm an herb girl and a citrus lover. 92 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: So for me, I don't do terragon. I love terragon. 93 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: I sage is okay, I mean Thanksgiving is really all 94 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: my sage. Once in a while, maybe a brown butter 95 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: thing with a sage and maybe apasta if I get 96 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: adventuress like that, but really it's more my cilantros, my 97 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: you know, my basil mint. I just made an incredible 98 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: corn salad and I put mint and basil in there. 99 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: I think that herbs are underrated, and people someone like 100 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: me who's trying to watch the sugar and the gluten 101 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 2: and the carbon tank. I like to fancy up my 102 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: food with like a shit ton of herb and citrus. 103 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: So you've got some salt, pink salt, citrus and herbs, 104 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: you are like good to. 105 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: Go, right right right? Yeah? I sort of of. I 106 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: do the citrus thing, olive oil and herbs on salmon 107 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: because I have a couple of different salmon recipes and 108 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: I've got one that has like Italian seasoning bread crumbs 109 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: on it too, which is really nice. 110 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: That sounds nice. I have a couple of great salmon recipes. 111 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: I actually just made one on Good Morning America about 112 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: six months ago, and with the mango salsa, and it 113 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: was a big, big hit. But I want to try 114 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 2: that with the bread crumbs. That sounds delicious. 115 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, yeah I do. I do olive oil and 116 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: then I squirt some real lemon on it, and then 117 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: do the bread crumbs and put a nice, nice butter 118 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: on top, and it all just sort of melds in. 119 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 2: I love salmon so much. I do too. I do too, 120 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: I just really honestly I love it. I do too. 121 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: It's my favorite. I think it's my favorite. 122 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: It's big in our household. 123 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah too. 124 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: So since I am Luke from Luke's Diner, I feel 125 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: only it's only right to ask you. Do you love 126 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: diner food as much as I do? 127 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: Of course I do. 128 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: Yes. What's what's the ultimate diner meal for you? 129 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: For me, it's a pattimelt and fries well done. I mean, 130 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: it's just it's all about a pattimelk. For the love 131 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: of God, I can't think of anything better than. I 132 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: really with good meat, though it has to be good 133 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: good meat. But like I love the grilled onions, I 134 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: love to just drench it and ketch up. I don't 135 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: love like rye bread. I'm not a rye rye girl. 136 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: I don't like the flavor. But I love sour dough. 137 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: So a pattimeoult on sour dough. You know that's really 138 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: greasy with the with the and I add tomato, so tomato, 139 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: the onions, and you know, and really good cheese. I 140 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: don't care what cheese it is. Any cheese fine with me, 141 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: you know, really honestly, any cheese is fine. 142 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: You're answering all my questions. All my questions. I have 143 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: to cross them out. You just answered all of them. 144 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: And then I love ranch. I'll dip it ranch too, 145 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: and the ketchup. 146 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: But where so you one first place in a tuna 147 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: melt contest? What is this? 148 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: What is this? So? So? I did a show for 149 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: the Food Network called Rachel Versus Guy and it was 150 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: I don't even know how long ago it was. It 151 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: was it was maybe fourteen years ago, and I made 152 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: it to the very end. I almost won, but Dean 153 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: McDermott won. Uh and he he I was literally he 154 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: like hogged the whole countertop and I was like plating 155 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: my stuff on the floor. I was really mad, but 156 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: I came this closed. I came in second place. But 157 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: when but when we went to we had an episode. 158 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: We were doing diner food and it was Mel's Diner 159 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: and it was the classic one on Sunset Boulevard, the 160 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: original Mele's Diner. And you know, it was so fun 161 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: and just I love I love the vibe and energy 162 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: of a diner. It just is the best, right, So 163 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: I was really excited. I thought, I'm just gonna knock 164 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: him dead with this tuna melt. This tuneamil is any melt, 165 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: I don't care what you're melting, just melted with bread 166 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: and cheese, and I'm happy. But I thought, you know, 167 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: let's let's just go crazy. So I won the first 168 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: place for that week. And it was it was a 169 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: tuna melt with my probably five different herbs, jalapeno in 170 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: the tuna, jalapeno, you know, red onion, all kinds of 171 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: seasonings and stuff, lots of lemon, and then and that's 172 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: the tuna right with the mayonnaise. And then I did 173 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: I added a bunch of herbs and then I grilled 174 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: onions in balsamic vinegar and butter and salt and pepper, 175 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: and then so there's this tangy, kind of really yummy 176 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: not pickled, but you know, it's got the balsamic with 177 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: the onions and then cheddar cheese, sour dough bread, and 178 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: my god, this tuna melt rocked and they loved it. 179 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: And so funny enough, they had this deal with Mel's Diner. 180 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: They put they had like a card on the table. 181 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 2: Each table had a card saying like Carnie Wilson's Rachel 182 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 2: versus guys. You know TV show Carnie Wilson's Tuna melt 183 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: featured here, And they did it for six months. But 184 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: then I went after six months and they kept it 185 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: on the menu and they weren't supposed to do that, 186 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: so I guess, I guess, and they almost got in 187 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 2: big trouble because I was like, well, that's not fair. 188 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: That's a melt, you know. So I'm back to my agent. 189 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, Mel's Diner to get their thing together, 190 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: you know. So then now they changed there so they 191 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: didn't label it, and now when you go back to 192 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 2: Mel's Diner, it's like similar to mine. Now, so they 193 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: stole the idea, oh man, but people like it, So 194 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: I'm people like it isn't that a cool story? That is? 195 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: I mean, but it's so typical, right, it's so typical. 196 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: Well, you know, recipes are kind of like songs, you know, 197 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: I always say, you know what I mean, Like there's 198 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: like variations and then you could just call your own 199 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, minus have a tea, spit of salt. 200 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: It's your own recipe. 201 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: Right, nobody can own those chords. Sorry, right, speaking of music, 202 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: you mind if we talk about your family a little bit? 203 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: A little bit, sure, if you don't mind. I mean 204 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: the Beach Boys, what can you say? I saw the 205 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: Beach Boys three times in the eighties. I saw them 206 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: on the beach in Fort Lauderdale. In nineteen eighty three, 207 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: I saw them again in I think it was Fort 208 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: Lauderdale again in a high school gymnasium. And I saw 209 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: them one more time and I forget where it was. 210 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: But these were the shocking thing about a Beach Boys concert, 211 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: and I didn't know this was that every single song 212 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: was a massive hit, right, And You're just like it's 213 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: just like another title wave of a huge song, and 214 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, wow, wow. It was literally the best 215 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: concerts I've ever seen. What is it like growing up 216 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: in a family like that. 217 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's family and then there's music. They're 218 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: very different and the lifestyle is very different. And there 219 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: were there were a lot of really cool things about it, 220 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: like music playing every minute, and then my introduction for 221 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: my love of harmony and music myself. I'm very grateful 222 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: for that. And then there was just like you're just 223 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: not not a normal pace or lifestyle at all. So 224 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: I feel like I was blessed in many ways, and 225 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: then I missed out on a lot of stuff too. 226 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: But you know, everybody, it was kind of the time 227 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: coming out of the sixties and early seventies where things 228 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: were just kind of, i don't know, a little little crazy, 229 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: and I didn't have much of a you know, like 230 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: foundation like that. But my mom was really great and 231 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: she tried to you know, I went to a very 232 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: good school and really thrived in music and theater and 233 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: it just kind of, you know, massaged my love for 234 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: the art the arts, and then I just got into 235 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: entertainment industry so young. I was eighteen, so I just 236 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: jumped right in and with the support of the family, 237 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: of course, but it was amazing. I mean, it just 238 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: you know, not a day goes by without some sort 239 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: of like reminder of where I've come from and the music, 240 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: and mainly more than the fame and all that all 241 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 2: that stuff, it's more about like what the music has 242 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: given to the world with, graced the world with, you know, dealing. 243 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: Right, those beautiful songs. I mean, yeah, when you listen 244 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: to hold On and you listen to all of that, 245 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: all of the Wilson Phillips songs, the hits, it's it's 246 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: a legacy from what you derived from your family partly, 247 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: and it's just it's a moving experience to hear it 248 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: because it's like you're carrying you know, the torch was 249 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: passed on, you're carrying it with such care. And the 250 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: thing that shocked me re listening to this stuff was 251 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: the quality of these harmonies and the care that went 252 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: into all of it. And it was just magic. You 253 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: guys walk onto a stage and this magic happens, and 254 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: that's impossible to do. It's just so difficult to do it, 255 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: and you guys do it with such ease, and I'm 256 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: sure there was a ton of hard work that went 257 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: into it, but so so charming, so great. 258 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: Well, a lot of it is just like very meant 259 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: to be. And then we spent a long time writing 260 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: songs and developing our sound too, you know what I mean. 261 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: Like I finished a concert this weekend and it was 262 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: around five thousand people. It was a really great bill 263 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: was Taylor Dane, Tiffany, Sheena Easton, and Wilson Philips. It 264 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: was really fun. And when we were done, it was 265 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: a really big stage thunder Valley Casino in Sacramento or Lincoln, California, 266 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: and the stage is massive, and so we had to 267 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: like work the whole stage and it we really took. 268 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: It really knocked the wind out of all of us. 269 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: But when we were done, we went back to the 270 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: dressing room, we kind of plopped on the couch and 271 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: just we were just like because we're we're like fifty 272 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: seven now, so it's you know, so we get out 273 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: and we're just like we get on the back, you know, 274 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: and we were like, we're tired. And then and I 275 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: just said, you know, we're just so meant to sing together. 276 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: And at the end of the day when there's you know, 277 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: this one doesn't agree with this one, or this is 278 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: travels hard or whatever, it just is such a blessing. 279 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: And I know, believe me. I don't take it for 280 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: granted for a second. 281 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, the singing is a hugely physical undertaking it. 282 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: It is so draining and was it really truly is 283 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: because it's you know, in a sense, it's like sort 284 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: of acting, you know, ten x, because you know your 285 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: your body is your instrument and that's it. You've got 286 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: to produce that sound and maintain and it's not easy, no, 287 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: not easy. 288 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: When we're it's so funny because when we sing, release 289 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: me and we're all done, we literally you know, babe, 290 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: you just got to release me and then we go 291 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: and they're clapping because they love it, but they're also like, 292 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: good job, you got through it. You know. 293 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: Where where? So are you on tour now or were 294 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: you going to be appearing somewhere soon? 295 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: So our our tours, it's kind of funny. Our tours 296 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: like one show a month and then this year we've 297 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: got some double double decker things. But that's enough for 298 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: us because we've got lots of kids between us and 299 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: I'm still that are, you know, still younger, not that 300 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: young but fifteen kind of hold the fort down a 301 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: little bit too. But yeah, and it's not really a tour, 302 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: but but we we have probably ten shows this year, 303 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: which is great. 304 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: Really all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna check them out. 305 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: I'd love to come see you guys. 306 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fun show. Actually there's a lot of 307 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 2: humor in it too. 308 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: Oh good, good, really funny. Thank you so much for 309 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: your time. I know you're incredibly busy and you need 310 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: to get back to it, but you gave us this time. 311 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: We're very very grateful. It was thrilling. I'm a songwriter myself, 312 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 1: so it's thrilling meeting you. 313 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 314 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: That's oh yeah, yeah, I may send you a song 315 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: or seventeen do I love it? But anyway, Wilson Phillips, 316 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: Carney Wilson, musical icon, legend, thank you so much for 317 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: your time. And remember, everybody out there, thank you for 318 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: your downloads. You are the best fans on the planet. 319 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: Check out Carney and Wilson Phillips. Go see them. They're 320 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: very very special. And uh, where you lead, we will follow. 321 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: Stay safe everyone, hey, everybody, and don't forget Follow us 322 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: on Instagram at I Am all In podcast and email 323 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.