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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is flawed but redeemable. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys? I think that is spot

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Speaker 1: on by Matt money Smith. We are all flawed, as

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Speaker 1: all humans are, but redeem Somebody created a religion based

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Speaker 1: the Theology Podcast. You get a little fired up with

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Speaker 1: your religious hot takes lately? What is the root of Christianity?

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Speaker 1: these things Theology Podcast. But I do notice something cooking

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Speaker 1: Greg is right. I have no answers, only questions. This

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Speaker 1: quizzical face. Throughout Mark has been shaking his head and

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Speaker 1: giving me evil looks. I'm not giving you an evil look.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you have only questions. You certainly seem

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Speaker 1: This is why you save it for the theology podcast.

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Speaker 1: That will never happen. The theology podcast would be a banger.

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Speaker 1: do any of that, Yes, let's go all the way

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Speaker 1: back to the top and take a look at what

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Speaker 1: happened on Monday night. Yes, these are special times in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: been a mysterious presence on this team UH this season,

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Speaker 1: and he has the knee injuries coming back from another

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Speaker 1: a C. L. Tair have been worked back slowly. Spencer,

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Speaker 1: weare ha essentially taken his role in Now today we

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Speaker 1: learned that Jamal Charles has been UH sent to injured reserve,

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Speaker 1: which will sideline him at least another eight weeks, and

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Speaker 1: you could do the math that there's a good chance

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Speaker 1: we've seen the last of Jamal Charles Uh, Greg Mark

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Speaker 1: Cessler both UH this season, and there's a good chance

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Speaker 1: the last time we see him in Kansas City, Mark

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Speaker 1: greg Or Mark Mark will go how about you want

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Speaker 1: me to start said happy to Yeah, Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's Jamal Charles has not been a productive leading member

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Speaker 1: of this offense since and they've found out last year.

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Speaker 1: Number one, you win eleven games in a row without him,

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Speaker 1: and your running game doesn't really skip a beat with

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Speaker 1: Spencer Ware and you've got a solid backup in Shark

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Speaker 1: Hendrick West behind him. So you know, at this point

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Speaker 1: with the with the whole situation ation with Jamal Charles,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about months ago this should have

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Speaker 1: been a trade candidate potentially for Kansas City, but he

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Speaker 1: wasn't healthy, so it was hard to make that move.

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Speaker 1: But he's not been in the picture for for a

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Speaker 1: long time now. It's not like he's the cornerstone, as

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Speaker 1: Damnachek would say, jenga piece as he was viewed back

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Speaker 1: in two thousand twelve, maybe even two thousand thirteen. Still

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Speaker 1: a tough end for if this is the last time

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Speaker 1: we ever see him. Uh with the Chiefs and a

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Speaker 1: guy that really in a lot of ways underrated, one

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Speaker 1: of the best running backs of the two thousand tens easily.

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Speaker 1: Uh what do you think I mean if this is

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Speaker 1: the end of the of the season, I think the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs survived, like Mark saying, because they've been getting on

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Speaker 1: just well without it. He kind of valued as Jamal Charles.

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Speaker 1: Will he have a thirty years old who knows of

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Speaker 1: his his knee will ever be right one more contract? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to say you'd ever know he could come back.

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Speaker 1: This injury, I think gets to how tough it is

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Speaker 1: when you have a franchise legend. I guess, for lack

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Speaker 1: of a better word, that that's injured and maybe in

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Speaker 1: a secondary role it was it was uncomfortable having Charles

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Speaker 1: in that role. I I don't think this will be

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Speaker 1: the end from I mean you talked about underrated. He

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Speaker 1: is literally the all time leader in yards per carry

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Speaker 1: among running backs. He should almost he should almost not

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Speaker 1: play again just to get that, because that that's a

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Speaker 1: tough stack a guy in two thousand and sixteen. To

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Speaker 1: have it would hurt his Hall of Fame chances if

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Speaker 1: he never plays again. And in running backs an unforgiving

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Speaker 1: position in the NFL, there were we saw when Mark

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Speaker 1: and I would grown up in the eighties. You had

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Speaker 1: guys like William Andrews, Wilbert Montgomery, Kurt Warner who were

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Speaker 1: good like Jamal Charles for a five year window and

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Speaker 1: then knee injuries would end their career. Running back is

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Speaker 1: so unforgiving. If Jamal Charles had stayed healthy his entire career,

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Speaker 1: I think he's a no brainer Hall of Famer. He'll

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Speaker 1: definitely get. He'll be brought to another team over the

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Speaker 1: off season. If he ends up outside of Kansas City

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Speaker 1: and crowed about and crowned before the season even begins.

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Speaker 1: Feature back, he could be a Pro Bowler next year.

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Speaker 1: Turns thirty in December, and I mean, honestly, the Chiefs also,

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Speaker 1: he's only making three point seven five million next year.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on a suspension to talk about here. In

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Speaker 1: the NFL announced a suspended left tackle Trent Williams of

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Speaker 1: the Redskins four games for violating the league's substance abuse policy.

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Speaker 1: Uh Williams had been previously suspended in two thousand and twelve,

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Speaker 1: and the timing here cannot be worse for the Redskins,

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Speaker 1: greg as as they're trying to make a playoff push

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Speaker 1: here and now they have to do it without their

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Speaker 1: their top blindside protector. Yeah. I've been impressed with the

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Speaker 1: Redskins offense the last few weeks, but I think they're

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Speaker 1: not an offense there an offense that everything needs to

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Speaker 1: be going right. I don't think they can just lose.

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Speaker 1: Not that many teams could a top notch left tackle

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Speaker 1: and everything will just be fine. He's the best player

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Speaker 1: on their offense, on their team. He is he He's

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Speaker 1: one of the best players in the league. He's the

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Speaker 1: number one tackle on the mid season All Pro team,

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Speaker 1: and he's excellent in running game and the passing game.

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Speaker 1: When you watch the Redskins, I think this struck me

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Speaker 1: even in September when Kirk Cousin was making mistakes. He's

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Speaker 1: got all day to sit back there and go through

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Speaker 1: his progressions. I mean, they put him at guard one

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Speaker 1: game because they had so much injuries, and he dominated

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Speaker 1: a guard. This is a out of nowhere. This isn't

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Speaker 1: a guy that you would have thought this was gonna

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Speaker 1: happen to Yeah, professionalism right here by by the whole crew,

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Speaker 1: because this news came during the podcast, just seamlessly integrated.

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Speaker 1: We're absolutely flying. That might be a note to tell

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Speaker 1: each other after in an email. Good job, guys, we've

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Speaker 1: just you know, telecast that to the entire audience. Let's

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Speaker 1: move on and talk about the end of a career

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Speaker 1: for one of the greats. Andre Johnson informed the Titans

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday that he will retire, ending a fourteen year

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Speaker 1: career in the NFL, most of which is glory. You're

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Speaker 1: spent in Houston with the Texans, now thirty five years old. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he had quiet stops both in Indianapolis and Tennessee. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and now decides to step away. Uh. He ends his

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Speaker 1: career with over one thousand catches. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: short him one thousand, sixty two Uh, fourteen thousand, one

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Speaker 1: eighty five yards and seventy touchdowns. Chris Westling no playoff

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Speaker 1: glory really to speak of. Kind of was tucked away

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Speaker 1: on some teams that aren't always on the radar. But

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Speaker 1: is this a Hall of Fame player? I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's any doubt he passes the test for transcendent peak

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Speaker 1: and longevity and if you read marks excellent uh recap

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Speaker 1: of of of of his retirement from the other day.

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Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne is a contemporary of Andre Johnson's. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people put them in the same category. Reggie Wayne

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Speaker 1: Copp passes from Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck. Here's who

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Speaker 1: Andre Johnson Copp passes from David Carr, Tony Banks, Dave

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Speaker 1: are gone save Rosenfeld's. Is that Greg's dad? Yes, they've

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Speaker 1: were gone, could not have been in for too long.

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Speaker 1: But j Yates's keenum and match up my varsity baseball team.

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Speaker 1: That's Greg. We're going sorry so anyway, Yeah, And this

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Speaker 1: guy from two thousand four to two thousand fourteen ranked

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Speaker 1: first in the NFL and receptions and receiving yards with

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Speaker 1: those guys throwing to him, and from two thousands seven

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Speaker 1: two thousand ten was right there with Larry Fitzgerald as

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Speaker 1: the best receiver in the NFL. Charlie Castley, who drafted

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Speaker 1: him in two thousand three on NFL Network, had no

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Speaker 1: problem saying that he was a better player ultimately than

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Speaker 1: Arton Monk, who was within Washington. I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: any doubt, And he compared him and said he was

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Speaker 1: up there with Jerry Rice, that their circumstances were different.

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Speaker 1: Now that a lot of people would just based on

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Speaker 1: you know, human experience and what you watched those Niners teams,

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Speaker 1: you'd have a hard time sitting with that one. But

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Speaker 1: the idea that there's any debate that he'd be in

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Speaker 1: the hall. Look, you just put Andre read in. Yeah

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Speaker 1: that changes the Hall of Fame thing is wacky. But

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Speaker 1: Andre Johnson should just be carried in there. Yeah, probably

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Speaker 1: the last the last two big years he had in Houston.

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Speaker 1: That's what put him in. What hurt him was the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and then he had two seasons in his prime

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Speaker 1: cut in half by injuries. And he would come back

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Speaker 1: the next year and he led the league in receiving

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Speaker 1: twice in a row. He led the league in receptions.

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Speaker 1: You know, he led the league in yards per game plentytime.

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Speaker 1: But he had those two seasons cut short in his prime.

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Speaker 1: That didn't help. But he was a monster deep into

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Speaker 1: his thirties. He was a top top two or three quarters,

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Speaker 1: top two or three wide receiver and everyone talks about

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Speaker 1: him as the most talented guy on that those University

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Speaker 1: of Miami teams, which is wildly talented. He's also the

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Speaker 1: best player in Texans history until J. J. Watt came along.

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Speaker 1: And one last thing, like people people want to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: Terrell Owens, who I also think should be in there

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Speaker 1: no questions asking me a break, But there's there's the

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Speaker 1: person of Terrell Owens might be causing issues. Everyone that

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Speaker 1: ever worked with Andre Johnson said the hardest worker in

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Speaker 1: the building and absolute tutor too younger players, So I

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Speaker 1: think that there's no argument against it. Read that quote

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Speaker 1: from Gary Kubia. Andre Johnson is his fine of a

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Speaker 1: combination of man and football player as I've ever been around,

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Speaker 1: says Gary Kubia. Wow, whoa, that's a shot at John Elway.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's how I that is. As one wide

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Speaker 1: receiver goes into retirement, another one comes out Percy Harvin's back. Folks, Uh,

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Speaker 1: what a transition. I am in awe that see that one.

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Speaker 1: I would not save for the email after the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm totally cool with. Well, there's no email after the

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Speaker 1: show because we announced all these uh you know, laudits

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Speaker 1: and awards right here. Mark. I think you're doing a

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Speaker 1: great job so far. In this show. Thank you Mendus. Buddy.

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Speaker 1: Percy Harvin has signed a contract with the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: The team announced this on Tuesday. Rap Sheet reported that

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Speaker 1: Buffalo will pay Harvin one million, including incentives over the

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Speaker 1: final eight games of the season, which seems like a

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Speaker 1: lot free broken down wide receiver, but the pact reunites

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Speaker 1: Harvin in the Bills just seven months after Harvin told

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Speaker 1: the team that he wanted to retire. And Greg, this

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Speaker 1: is a guy at his height and this starting to

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Speaker 1: get a little fuzzy in my own memory right now.

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Speaker 1: It's been a while. Is an absolute transcendent type talent,

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Speaker 1: but now with hip injuries and all everything else, he's

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Speaker 1: just he's not that guy anymore. Yeah, he's five years

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Speaker 1: removed from his best season in in three years, two

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Speaker 1: or three years removed really from being a factor. But

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Speaker 1: he's only twenty eight years old. The weird thing, the

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Speaker 1: weird thing with this story to me is that it happened,

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Speaker 1: rap Sheet reported, because the Bills called him and they

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Speaker 1: were basically, hey, you know, you want to come out

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Speaker 1: of retirement, and he's like yeah, so like dollars right,

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Speaker 1: So if they didn't call him, he was he wasn't

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Speaker 1: gonna do it. That's to me, that's concerning. He's just yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess so I'll come over. But I might count

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Speaker 1: fifteen months removed from being a factor. It's easy to

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Speaker 1: forget now. He was the Bill's best receiver in September

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Speaker 1: of last season before the hip injuries came down again.

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor loved throwing to him deep and yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: let's say, let's say he isn't shape shape and he

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Speaker 1: does that chemistry connects again. But here's the thing. If

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Speaker 1: you make him an active participant in your offense, we

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Speaker 1: don't have any evidence that his body is gonna hold up.

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Speaker 1: So it really does seem to be like a bit

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Speaker 1: of a hell Mary move for the offense. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they need it. Rex Ryan basically said in quotes, we're

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Speaker 1: looking to capture lightning in the bottle. And you know,

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Speaker 1: the one thing is it's not a sign. No, it's

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Speaker 1: it's not. I mean, I think he's openly saying we

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Speaker 1: need someone to come in and make place. Sammy Watkins

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Speaker 1: is still out until at least week twelve. You know,

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Speaker 1: Goodwin is coming off a concussion. Greg salis who's not

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Speaker 1: really a huge factor as a growing injury. But you're

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Speaker 1: shorthanded a wide receiver. And the weird things that he's retired.

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Speaker 1: But they did tuck like they've kept some sort of

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Speaker 1: pulse on him over the last year to see where

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Speaker 1: his health was. He says he's healthy. It wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: crazy for him later in the year to make a

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Speaker 1: few plays. But it's not gonna happen. They're saying, Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's just in time for this rematch with Seattle. I

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Speaker 1: would be surprised if he has an impact in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Who knows? I have a bit of a sessler here

642
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: very quietly, about six weeks from now, we'll be doing

643
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: news item about his release. We're six days. I mean

644
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: this is this is a team that's the leader and

645
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: snaps at wide receiver last week. Can anyone guess or

646
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: even the top two? Justin Hunter? Justin Hunter, number one,

647
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: guy who has been released by two different teams in

648
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: the last month. And Walt Powell, good old Walter, Why

649
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: stop here? Bring back Andre Reid, James Lofton, Tom Baby,

650
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: peerless price stop bringing back bros? Could still play. I

651
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: love Derek Molds in his prime. I call us a

652
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: dearth of death. Does that pull your Hall of Fame

653
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: jacket off. If you're Andre Reid and you come back

654
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: in for like a meaningless two games stretch with the

655
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan Bills, that's like fifth depth of dearth, depth ofirth,

656
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: of depth, dearth of depth, something else they could fit

657
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: in an email after the show. Let's move on. The

658
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals continue, gentlemen, to have issues. UH. Their left

659
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: tackle Jared belt Here is most likely out for the

660
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: year after suffering torn triceps tendon in his right arm.

661
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: Sent to UH injured reserve. Did they sent Okay? Requires surgery,

662
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: So there's a very good chance you've seen the last

663
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: of their left tackle. And also more injury issues UH

664
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: for the Honey Badger Tyrne Matthew could be signlined anywhere

665
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: between three to six weeks with a shoulder injury. Uh.

666
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: Just another uh setback for the Cardinals, and I think

667
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: West what we might have to do. We must call

668
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: to order, gentlemen, and a more emergency fork session. Lett.

669
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 1: It's the gavel bang it. We didn't even have time

670
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: to have her coffee in Danish downstairs. It's just this

671
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: has come up. Or get a gavel cavil. We're gonna Hey,

672
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: can I get a gavel soon? Yeah? Screaming, All right,

673
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 1: here we go, Arizona Cardinals. The reason why we're calling

674
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: this is because Chris Wesling privately approached me about the

675
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: need to do so. So Chris make the case why

676
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: it is time to fork the Cardinals. Chickens have come

677
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: home to roost. They are guilty of mis evaluating their

678
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: own talent. DJ Humphries. They drafted him knowing he'd need

679
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: a red shirt. Ear in my mind, he's been the

680
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: worst right tackle in the NFL this year. He's been awful.

681
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: Brandon Williams, they said all summer their third round rookie

682
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: was gonna be ready to step in at cornerback, basically

683
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: cost them the season opener versus the Patriots when he

684
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: got burnt over and over again. They miss evaluate their

685
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: own talent Jonathan Cooper, another first round pick. Their offensive

686
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: line is the biggest problem on the team right now.

687
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: They whipped on Jonathan Cooper so far they whipped on

688
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: d J. Humphries, and the offensive line is holding the

689
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: team hostage. They cannot compete because of that right side

690
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: of the offensive line, and now they're left tackles gone,

691
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: So the left side of the offensive line. Bell Dere's

692
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: a killer loss for them because of what you said,

693
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: because every team just knows, let's just send the blitz

694
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: is at Arizona. It's rare in the NFL you see

695
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: a team have the same problem week after week after

696
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: week after week, never solve it. People have been blitzing

697
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: them for five weeks running. They have no answers. Well,

698
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: we just talked about the Vikings, and if your offensive

699
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: line breaks down, you know, it's like everything is focused

700
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: on skill position player X is out for two weeks

701
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: and your fantasy team is in trouble find another skill

702
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: position player. But when these lines, and we see it

703
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: throughout the NFC West, crumble this team. This is a

704
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: team that just a couple of months ago we were

705
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: talking about is being up there with the Patriots and

706
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: the Seahawks when it came to team building and how

707
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: above and beyond they were every other club. Here we

708
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 1: are on the first day of November and we're forking them.

709
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: That hasn't happened. I'm just saying it's it's it's not

710
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: a table. If the Cardinals and Vikings met this week,

711
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: I have no idea who to win the game. But

712
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: The difference between the two is the Vikings jumped out

713
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: to a five and I start and can still get

714
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: in the playoffs with a damaged offensive line. I don't

715
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: think the Cardinals can. Might might take care Chris Westling.

716
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: I respect his football acumen and his cult of personality,

717
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: but at the same time, I don't want to get

718
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: what does that even mean? Oh? His own personality, the

719
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: ability of Westling to to through through fiery speeches and

720
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: knowledge draw people in. Are you calling me a demagogue?

721
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean I believe that west will start a cult

722
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: one day. Well, I have no interesting starting. It's interesting

723
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: because if if anyone was the leader of the Cardinals

724
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: cult on this podcast, I think west would that. He

725
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: definitely was a big Cardiner. I love the Cardinal was

726
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: working my way there, and I'm west is not a

727
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: woman scorned, but certainly west Is will be very disappointed

728
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: that the Cardinal season is going the way it is.

729
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: Uh Now, if I try to look at it, just

730
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, through no filter their three four and one,

731
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: which is not great, but not end of the road.

732
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: They have a bye week to get healthy a little

733
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: bit right now, and then they get the forty niners

734
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: at home, so put that in as a gimme four

735
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: or four and one then back to back bangers. And

736
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: this is where if you want to if you're if

737
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: the Forks about getting ahead of things, you can say,

738
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: okay at Vikings at Falcons, all right, and then if

739
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 1: you don't think they're any good there four and six.

740
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: But uh, where where are we at on this? I mean,

741
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: do we really think that they're done? Greg? No, I

742
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: don't because of what you talked about team building and

743
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: coaching and some of the talent that's still on this team,

744
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: a very good defense. I think they probably better defensively

745
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: this year so far overall than they were a year ago.

746
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: That's certainly in the same ballpark right now. The six

747
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: seat in the NFC has three losses, you know they're on.

748
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: They're one loss behind that, and uh, I can see

749
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: them scriping out some wins here. I'm not giving up

750
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: on them. I am the biggest Cardinals fan in this podcast,

751
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: am I used to be the biggest Colts fan, And

752
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: when the Colts were a bad, bad team a couple

753
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: of years ago, I said for a month straight, the

754
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: Cults are a bad bad team. The Cardinals are a

755
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: bad bad team, right now, and it's because of their

756
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: offensive line, which is a hurdle which they will not

757
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: overcome this season. I've voted fork. I vote the fork

758
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, Mark Mark, where do you come down on this?

759
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: I mean, my one concern just looking at the West

760
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: and I think that Seattle is a similar issue with

761
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: their own offensive line, maybe to the same not to

762
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: the same degree with the Veltier injury, but but very close.

763
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: And they only have one more win than Arizona right now,

764
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: and it's it's just early in the year. I I'm

765
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: willing to do it because it's fun and it's adventurous

766
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: and I don't really care if I'm wrong, to be honest,

767
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: and so I'll sign up and do it. But they're

768
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: not the first team that I would pin for. Are

769
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: a total collapse from there on out? That might be

770
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: mark your greatest on the fence accomplishment right there the

771
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: way you phrase, well, because I want to go along

772
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: for the ride, I'm not going to stop it because

773
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: I do think that Chris is correct, and I I've

774
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: watched every Cardinals game myself, and this is a far

775
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: cry from last year's team. But I also here's the

776
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: other part, the whole league is a watered down disaster

777
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: outside of two or three teams. So what says the

778
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: Cardinals couldn't listen to our pat Well, No, but the

779
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: Cardinals could win three or four games in unimpressive fashion

780
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: against less impressive team. It could also lose to worst teams.

781
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: What's the point of what's the point of waiting five

782
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: weeks and forking? And then that's what I'm saying. If

783
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna be right, let's do it right. It gets

784
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: to the heart of what the fork is about. You know,

785
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: are you totally predicting? Obviously last year we got in trouble.

786
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: We wrong wrong three times. Ultimately, if you push up

787
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: to the to do I think the Cardinals are going

788
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. No, I mean that's I think

789
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: or nine when you know for a fact there's no

790
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: chance that team could make the playoffs. That's I'm not

791
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: forking them. I think the Cardinals have too many, too

792
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: many things that could go right for them. Where things

793
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: turn around. Chandler Jones is on your all protein, Marcus

794
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: Gold and that defense could carry them. You know, I

795
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: know then the best player in the league, and David

796
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: Johnson one of them. The defense is better this year,

797
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: and there will be several members of the Cardinals in

798
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: the All Pro team. But the offensive line is that bad.

799
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: And it's then combination with a quarterback who doesn't move

800
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: well into pocket anymore, even though he did last year.

801
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: You figure it out, I don't know. So you've got

802
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: to see the Cardinals looking at the rest of their

803
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: schedule losing three or four or five games that we

804
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: absolutely would not expect. I mean today a point, I

805
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: don't expect them to. They have the forty niners, but

806
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: other than that, every other than they play is is

807
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: about this at their level. I think the Redskins are

808
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: better than the Cardinals right now. I see them as well.

809
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: They have that tie, so I could see them as

810
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: the eight seven and one, nine and six and one

811
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: type team. I could see them at six whatever, six

812
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: him one, And we're not giving the Kangle a chance

813
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: to work himself out of this. We love that coach.

814
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: I love him. He's part of the mis evaluation process

815
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: on d J. Humphries and Brandon Williams. He was the

816
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: one telling everyone in August, Brandon Williams is going to

817
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: be one of the best rookies in the league. We

818
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: don't need a veteran cornerback. Something's just not right with this.

819
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: I was talking about the corner I mean, it's you're right,

820
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: the mojo that the I think that's like they were

821
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: so confident that when they got kind of a little

822
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: like the Panthers, when they got smacked around a little bit,

823
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: they were like, wait, what a second, We're not as

824
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: good as we thought. To be clear, I'm not saying

825
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,479
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians and Steve kim A doing a bad job.

826
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: They have resurrected that franchise with the help of Michael Bibwell,

827
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: but that they did a bad job this year in

828
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: evaluating their own talent and um, as anyone that listens

829
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: to the show knows, you need a um unanimous vote

830
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: two uh four team. Politically, I didn't even cast a vote,

831
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: but there was already one on Greg's side saying no,

832
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: so there will be no parking today. You already done

833
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: well in this exercise by saving the Dolphins, who would

834
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: now look like they got a chance saving those fans.

835
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: Come on, heck, I'm with you, baby, all right, let's

836
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,360
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842
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: the Swedish engineer turned economists who outright rejected the theory

843
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: of marginal utility as a quick fix to the question

844
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,960
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845
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:48,400
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846
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: connections between business cycles, capital thought, and monetary theory. True

847
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,720
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848
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849
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: Harrobert Illig, the German historian who made waves in the

850
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Speaker 1: nineteen eighties with his theory that a three hundred year

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Speaker 1: period of human history from six fourteen to nine eleven

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Speaker 1: a d simply never existed, Pointing to sparse archaeological records

853
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: from that three hundred year time period. Harrobert Illig's phantom

854
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: time hypothesis presupposes that all documents from this three century

855
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: time period have been forged by today's archaeologists. Meaning we

856
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: actually live in the year seventeen o eight. Sign up

857
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: for Mr Flames Economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands

858
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: today w w dot flame class dot Com. Again, I

859
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know who signs off on the content.

860
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: I would love to know. Get sent to connection, the

861
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: connection to the economics class and what year this actually is?

862
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: And I won't say a year of our Lord because

863
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: I don't want West to get all excited. I don't

864
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: really have a Lord. It's for theology year of your Lord, right,

865
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: I think Lord is a weird name to be throwing around.

866
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you that this guy is gonna

867
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: start his own brand l Ron Hubbard stuff. Chris Westling.

868
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: That is my lock it up quest is the new Scientology.

869
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: It's coming. No, it's not Scientology. Don't get me started

870
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: on that. All right? Speaking of Chris Westling, a man

871
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: or a god who knows? We'll find out the Chris

872
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't believe in God. All Pro mid season team

873
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: and yes, as West said a banger coming up on

874
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: Wednesday on the the old NFL dot com site. Uh West,

875
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: you put this together? Tell me how you put together

876
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: this team? Uh? Not by stats? It's all by what

877
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: I see on film. And I know a lot of

878
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: people are gonna argue with the guys, say, like Cole

879
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: Beasley is my slot receiver? Why is he my slot

880
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: receiver over Jarvis lad Dread's been better? Well, Beasley has

881
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: been the number one receiver on the Dallas Cowboys and

882
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: an absolute chain moving machine. So that's why it's all

883
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 1: based on film. Let me go down the list here

884
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: and we'll start at the cub QB position. Um. I

885
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people will be stunned by this,

886
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: but in general, again, it just shows how funny football is.

887
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: You never know, uh to find out. If you would

888
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: have told tell this group back in August that Matt

889
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: Ryan would be West's All Pro quarterback, no one would

890
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: uh would have guessed that. But here he is West

891
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: number one, the ultimate team sport. You can't extract the

892
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: quarterback from his surrounding talent. Last year we tried to

893
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: do that. We tried to throw Matt Ryan under the

894
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: bus and say he wasn't as good as players like

895
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. He just wasn't as good a quarterback. And

896
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: maybe it was time to admit that Matt Ryan's not

897
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, and I think that thinking was wronging

898
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: all along he did. All he had was Julio Jones

899
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: last year. Now he has. There are ten guys that

900
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is calling plays for and use their specific

901
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: talents in that offense, and to Matt Ryan's credit, he's

902
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: dialing them up with more accuracy and a better deep

903
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: ball this year. Anybody think that there should be a

904
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: different quarterback here, Well, the only Matt Ryan makes perfect sense.

905
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: And it's the one offseason narrative that I would be

906
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: more willing to look at going forward is that a

907
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: second year with a good coordinator can mean a lot

908
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: for your entire offense. Because we did mention that maybe

909
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: there'll be an uptick in an offense that wasn't very

910
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: effective down the stretch last year. Totally opposite. But if

911
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: we go four weeks from now, would Tom Brady be

912
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: the choice? I mean, what does Tom Brady need to

913
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: do outside of the fact that he missed the games. Well,

914
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: it's gotta be an interesting discussion when the m v

915
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: P race shapes up at the end of the season.

916
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: Do Associated Press voters vote for Tom Brady. Let's say

917
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't stay at this pace, because if he stays

918
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: at this pace, it's almost like he gives you no choice.

919
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: But let's say he's a he has a better season

920
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: than Matt Ryan. How much do you knock him for

921
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: missing twenty percent of the season. I remember this came

922
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: up when Vic and Brady were the two options late

923
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: in two thousand ten. Vic ended up finishing the season,

924
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: and I thought that was ridiculous. I thought, of course,

925
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: you give it to Brady. You gotta lap the field

926
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: if the other guy misses the well, I think there's

927
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: a big difference between fifty. I agree, I have a

928
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: problem giving it to Tom Brady when he's played four

929
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: of eight games. I won't have a problem giving it

930
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: to him if he maintains something close to what he's

931
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: doing now over twelve of sixteen games. But if if Ryan,

932
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: for instance, stays at this level, and you know, Brady

933
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: comes down a little bit, and you gotta you gotta

934
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: give him some credit for playing four extra games and

935
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: playing an unbelievable level. Ryan's not even number one in

936
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: your QB Index. No, Tom Brady is. That's what that's

937
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: a that's a mysterious thing. I do that by average

938
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: game I mean I do have a system for that.

939
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: I do that by whoever has the average game score,

940
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: He's got the highest one. When you look at West's

941
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: all pro list here, I like it surprises you anybody

942
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: that surprises you that to see them on this Well,

943
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: knowing West, he's got certain guys he likes, so there's

944
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: not a lot to argue with us. I wish there

945
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: was no No I'm saying, like Marcus Marcus Peters I

946
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: do not agree with. But it doesn't surprise me because

947
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: I think West, you know, loves Marcus Peters. He's a

948
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: great player. So it's it's not an offensive pick. But

949
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: I think you could have gone with some other cornerbacks

950
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: over Marcus Peters. You could, Yes, I I think Pro

951
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: Football Focus and Greg Row and Rosenthal don't put enough

952
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: credit into interceptions and passes defense, And I do k

953
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: likes to scratch. I'm just saying, look, a lot of

954
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: people like to know. It's a lot of people value

955
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: different things differently. Football Focus also values garbage time passing

956
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: numbers the same way they do with the game on

957
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: the line, right, he gives up a few big plays.

958
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: He doesn't travel, not that that's a big deal. It's

959
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: a small things, just comparing him to other great players

960
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: like Richard Sherman, who I think is having a great year.

961
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: I think Richard Sherman has been burned relentlessly the past

962
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: few weeks, and Marcus Peters says not. And if you

963
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: look at their I was in passer rating numbers, Marcus

964
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: Peters is right near the top. And perhaps such a

965
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: Cox is a surprise to me, don't think really, I

966
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: mean just not that he. I don't think it's been

967
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: a single best year. I would put Sue in there.

968
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: For instance. You have Aaron Donald and FLETCHERD. Cox on

969
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: your list. Um and perhaps history repeats will repeat itself here,

970
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: that would be nice. The Patriots decided the Chandler Jones

971
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: is a problem. They shipped them to Arizona and West.

972
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: He's been exactly what the Cardinals wanted to be and

973
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: what's been a tough season in Arizona. No problems with

974
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. It's not just the sacks. Last year at

975
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: this time, I believe he had nine sacks for the Patriots,

976
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: and he's playing better with five sacks for the Cardinals.

977
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: He's in the backfield all the time, he's playing the

978
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: run well and he's an every down player, something he

979
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: wasn't always in New England. I thought in that Seattle game,

980
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: oh he was national television. He couldn't have been better.

981
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: Luke Keickley, I mean that defense has been semi disastrous.

982
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: He's not the culprit. Bobby Wagner, I think has been

983
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: the best inside linebacker and football. Luke Keickley has been

984
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: what he always is. And I feel badly Zach Brown

985
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: off the list, but keith Ley and Wagner are I

986
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: think both future Hall of famers in the prime of

987
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: their career. It's Brandon Graham, by the way, as you're

988
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: starting defensive end. What a season for him. I love that.

989
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I love this list overall. I'm surprised. I'm

990
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: not surprised, but it's crazy to think that the Cardinals

991
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: have three players on your defensive first team All Pro

992
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: and none of those none of those are Patrick Peterson,

993
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: Clais Campbell Jones, and Tony Jefferson, which all you know,

994
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. I would go Melvin Ingram at

995
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: outside land Baker kJ writes, having a really good season.

996
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: It's tough for those guys to make up. Earl Thomas too. Um.

997
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: Before we move on West. If you could start a

998
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: franchise with one player on this list, it's an interesting

999
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: question because I don't think Matt Ryan is a guy

1000
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: I want to start a franchise with. It would probably

1001
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: be Aaron Donald about Old Gronker. I'm a Govon Miller.

1002
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: I might go Tyreek Hill, who made the list as

1003
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: your kicker, Retorny. I like what you did there. You're

1004
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: giving him some credit for everything he does as a

1005
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: return man too. He gets in there. That's what Tyler Lockett.

1006
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: There wasn't really a close second. Tyreek Hill was easily

1007
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: the kick returner on my list, And because people love

1008
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: to talk about wide receivers, I'll just let her. But

1009
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: you know A. J. Green and Julio Jones, um were

1010
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: the names you want with. Who was third place in

1011
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: this conversation? That's a good question. Let me check my note?

1012
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: How about this while he checks his notes? The first time,

1013
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 1: I like to give Baltimore Ravens credit in about nineteen

1014
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: twenty months. But you went and got are correct nineteen

1015
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: twenty years. Eric Weddle, I mean is played amazing and

1016
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: the Chargers there's a stalemate last year where you know

1017
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: we don't want him back. He's you know, blah blah blah,

1018
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: he's aging. And the Ravens have done this with Steve

1019
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: Smith too. They do a nice job of scouting pro

1020
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: players that other teams are ready to cast off. I

1021
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: think the ravens disappointing offense has overshadowed what's been a

1022
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: very good defense. And Greg has mentioned their safety duo

1023
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 1: of Weddow and Ladarius Webb. Weddow has played much better

1024
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: than Webb, and he has absolutely shut down ty Dens

1025
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: this year. All right, who is it, Wes your third

1026
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: wide suit? Antonio Brown? Oh, yeah, makes sense. He's a

1027
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: good place. A lot of people already. Cooper's up there too.

1028
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: If it weren't Antonio Brown, you'd be hearing from some people. No,

1029
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: Tyranne Smith, I just know about your boy, H O

1030
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: D H O d B. I should say O d B.

1031
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: Whether you want to blame it on him for Shenanigans

1032
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: or Eli not getting the ball or the offense not

1033
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: drawing up the plays, it's been too inconsistent for an

1034
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: all protein. All right, West's mid season all protein. You

1035
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: could read about it on Wednesday. Nfl dot Com Slash

1036
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: Position Rankings, Position rankings. Let's move on quickly and talk

1037
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: about Thursday Night football. Mark, you're gonna make one of

1038
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: these basket shots again, Eventually, I wouldn't. Marc is crumpling

1039
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: up the paper after he's done with it. He's got

1040
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: a lot of Well, by the way, I will say this,

1041
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: after the show is over, I will go pick that

1042
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: up and put these multiple pieces of paper up. We

1043
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: are the only show that I can detect that comes

1044
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: in here and doesn't leave the place an absolute mess. Yeah,

1045
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: we were respect. We respect our neighbors, all right, t

1046
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 1: n F preview because we're completest. We preview every game,

1047
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: even bad Thursday night games. I think the coverage, by

1048
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: the way, switches over now from UH field and GM

1049
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 1: over to the other side. Right. I do believe it's

1050
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: an NBC. That's correct. They sent off network, though they

1051
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: sent it off to NBC last year, and one of

1052
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: those last week and one of those extremely phony moments

1053
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: where one network acts like the other network and couldn't

1054
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: just be better friends. Everyone is just so tight, there's

1055
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: so much respect, and it was an extremely false moment. Well,

1056
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: you know what, I like Alan Cris though, So I'm

1057
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: happy that we're gonna get more games with them. That's

1058
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: affect the prep level for Sunday. But that's not our problem.

1059
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: Couldn't have Tariko, I mean, come on, come back to us. Anyway.

1060
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: Here we go Thursday Night football, Atlanta Falcons five and three. Oh,

1061
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Speaker 1: they're riding high after that thirty three to win over

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Speaker 1: the Ireen Bay Packers that included Matt Ryan's beautifully led

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00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: final drive in the fourth quarter. Uh. Now they traveled

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Speaker 1: to Tampa to face the Buccaneers. The Bucks did the

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Speaker 1: what was nearly, you know, the impossible last week. They

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Speaker 1: lost to a team that committed twenty three penalties. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Given that type of advantage, and you would think any

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00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: team would win, But the Bucks find a way. They

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Speaker 1: lost in overtime. Uh. And here we go, Greg because

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00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: the Falcon superior team here. But you got that Thursday

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Speaker 1: Night advantage that those home teams have with the color

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Speaker 1: rush and everything color runs with the Bucks uniforms. Is

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00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 1: that playing out who's wearing what? We haven't seen it yet.

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Speaker 1: This Bucks team played a terrific game in the Georgia

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Speaker 1: Dome in Week one and got me thinking this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a fun team. That team has not been

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Speaker 1: around really since Week one, Atlanta has completely turned their

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00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: season around. This is a mismatch. Buck are the one

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Speaker 1: of the worst five teams, I would say in the

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Speaker 1: entire NFL right now. And Jamis Winston. It doesn't help

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Speaker 1: him that he has a bad backfield. He's thrown into

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00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: some lame weapons, but he misses too many throws. If

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00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: he had hit about one of about four or five

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00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 1: open deep throws last game that he had, they win

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00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: that game. If he doesn't miss a pretty routine dump

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Speaker 1: off and overtime, they might get into field goal range.

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Speaker 1: So he's been a little part of the problem, but

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Speaker 1: the bigger problems it's it's just a bad team. The

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Speaker 1: Bucks are the only bad team the Falcons have played yet.

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Speaker 1: Their metal has been tested by the Raiders, the Saints,

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Speaker 1: the Panthers, Broncos, Seahawks, Chargers, and Packers, and I think

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00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: they've stood up and proven there as legit as any

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00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. You might not put them up

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00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: there with the Patriots in your power rankings, but they've

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00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,720
Speaker 1: been tested and I think they've come through with flying colors.

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Speaker 1: Quibbled with their defense, but it's improving. It is I

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00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: like Adrian Claiborne's playing well, Kianu Neil is playing well.

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00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 1: Vic Beasley that as a group, it's not quite adding up.

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00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: They're still giving up way too many yards and points,

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00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 1: but you can see it coming together well. And dan

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00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: Quinn was brought there to revive the defense number one,

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Speaker 1: and he's done that. You see etchings of it. You

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00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: see hints of it already where that's not happened with

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00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: the other former right, you haven't seen that with the

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00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: other former Jaguars defensive coordinator or the Jaguars, you know, Sorry,

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Speaker 1: give me a break, the Jaguars head coach who was

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00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: in with Seattle before. I point to the other side

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00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: of the ball to where we just talked about the

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00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: Cardinals potentially getting forked, and we talked about the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: also in the NFC West, struggling with their offensive line

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00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: and bringing in Alex mac having him play alongsign Andy Levitre.

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00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: That entire offensive line has been solid from end to

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Speaker 1: end this season, and that's where it starts. I don't

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00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: know how you slow down this offense. We've seen them

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00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: score points against everyone week after week, and now you've

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00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: got a legitimate bad defense. I don't care if it's

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00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay, which may be the only factor here.

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00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: Travel and for Thursday night creates weird scenarios. Maybe it

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00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: has some effect, but Atlanta works out of these funks.

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Speaker 1: They played on the road in Seattle. Doesn't matter where

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00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: they go, and they have confidence. You know dan Quinn

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00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: after that failed fourth down the week before, he goes

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Speaker 1: for a fourth early against Green Bay, like he goes

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00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: for a third straight run on the goal line after

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Speaker 1: you get stuff two times. I got a fantasy tip

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00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: in this game to ron Ward. This thing is gonna

1127
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: be such a big block to ron Ward. Looking pretty

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Speaker 1: good for the Falcons. He's gonna come in late, They'll

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Speaker 1: get some touchdown. Who do you take him out of

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Speaker 1: your lineup? Who do you take out of your lineup

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00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: to put this guy life flex out? If you're loaded,

1132
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: maybe I will One prediction I have for this game,

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Speaker 1: file it under as we continue to miss shots, um

1134
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: the football gots keep you on your toes. Game. Everything

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00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: makes sense for the Falcons to win. But this will

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00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: be a game in the fourth quarter. I got a

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00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: bit of a settler in that one as well. Well.

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Speaker 1: These sesslers, as you play them, have been wrong since

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00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: about two but weird, weird stuff happened on TNF. That is,

1140
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: there is no question about it. You it was. Dirk

1141
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: Carter was talking about it today and he sounded as

1142
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: he was discussing this game with disdain for a number

1143
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: of reasons. But the whole thing is just trying to

1144
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: get people healthy in time. You can't get your players

1145
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: back on the field, you lose three days. And weird,

1146
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: crazy stuff happens on these games. Why many of them

1147
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: are unwatchable in summer, some mildly watchable at best. We're

1148
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: gonna look back in ten years and and say, wait,

1149
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: what Dirk Cutter was a was a head coach? Remember that.

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Speaker 1: You don't think this uh, I don't think it's gonna

1151
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: take So this is not good. Chia last what two years?

1152
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: Love Smith last two years? Cutter last two years? And

1153
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: what's the difference between all these teams? Thank you? That's

1154
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: what Cleveland did. You want to switch your coach every

1155
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: two season? See how that works for you? All right,

1156
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: let's move on. Before we go, we promised a call

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Speaker 1: from a satellite hero and on the line right now

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Speaker 1: from his Oh and it's fitting right around the holiday

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Speaker 1: Halloween season for live from his haunted mansion in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Connor or you kidding me? What's up? Buddy? Hello ladies, Uh, Connor,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to me Around the NFL podcast. Right off

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Speaker 1: the bat um, I want to say, yes, Halloween here

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Speaker 1: in the US was last night and I saw on

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Speaker 1: Facebook you did the the gangster move of buying full

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01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: candy bars and handing those out. What was the motivation there?

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01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: Just to be the baddest ass on your block? Yeah?

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01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: I mean this was you know, tight knit community, you know,

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Speaker 1: first year in the neighborhood, first Halloween there, no one

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Speaker 1: really has to read on me all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it's like, suck it, you know, you try to handle

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Speaker 1: this candy you know. Yeah, yeah, I mean that was

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Speaker 1: always the holy grail on Halloween, as if you got

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Speaker 1: to the house that handed out full candy bars. So

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Speaker 1: I've never met anyone to do it. So just to

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Speaker 1: be talking to you right now, Connor, is kind of

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01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: an honor right now. But I wanna we gotta touch

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Speaker 1: on it. Would you mind if we just kind of

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Speaker 1: touch on a few different things with you today, because

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Speaker 1: it's always good to catch up with Connor. War Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's light this candle whatever, you got. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: start with the power poll we released and if you

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Speaker 1: can check it out and if you check it out,

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Speaker 1: the NFL dot com our mid season power Poll. Uh you,

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Speaker 1: of course, last time we did this exercise, the quarter

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01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: season power poll, uh, you were all over the map.

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01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: It's including the Caroline of Panthers, which I believe you

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01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: had buried somewhere in the mid to late twenties, which

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01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: upset a lot of people, and it turned out the

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Speaker 1: Panthers had more losing to do after that. Now you look,

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Speaker 1: and you look really good. Now after one win in

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Speaker 1: the mid season power poll, you all you have them

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Speaker 1: all the way back into the top ten at number nine.

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Speaker 1: Explain yourself. We're gonna keep poundered, Danny. That's what we're

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01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: gonna do. Uh So, after the secret meeting that Cam

1195
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: had with the commissioner, you know it's all about we're

1196
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: trying to keep pile of your not let this and

1197
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: now you know it's all going to change. We're reversing

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01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: and they're gonna let people not even touch Cam and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna run for two yards a game. This team's

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01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: gonna go back to the playoffs and they're gonna say

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01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: who the media, who the media believed us? Well, this

1202
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: guy right here. Yeah, you're right, you got them both.

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01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: You got him on both sides. So you're saying, Connor

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01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: that this meeting with Roger Goodell, which we don't even

1205
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: know if it's actually gonna happen or has happened. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it happened. If it has, it has vera talk to Goodell.

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01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean they're not. Goodell is not flying down to Charlotte.

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01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: Connor just confirmed that it has. This is going. This

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Speaker 1: is gonna launch the Panthers back to the promised Land.

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Speaker 1: Very interesting stuff you also have. I'll just share your

1211
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Speaker 1: top first. I'll share our overall group. It is the

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Speaker 1: average of all of the around the NFL writers. We

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Speaker 1: have Patriots, Cowboys, Sea How, Seahawks, Broncos, and Steelers are

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Speaker 1: top five. Uh. Connor's top five has the Cowboys at five,

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks at four, the Steelers at three, the Patriots

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Speaker 1: at two, the Ladies and Gentlemen the team of a

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Speaker 1: t I'll runner up Oakland Raiders, the number one team

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Speaker 1: in football yourself. Yeah, Jackie del Rio, baby, come on,

1219
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 1: black Jack. Yeah, I mean you know you give a

1220
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: two penalty yards to the Buccaneers, and you still smoke

1221
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: them in overtime. And then afterwards they say you concerned

1222
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: about your team's penally, he says, I don't care. This

1223
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: is let's let's just keep rolling. I love it, man,

1224
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: black Jack. This is where I'm going. Have you over there?

1225
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: You know, since you did your quarter pole, have you

1226
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: had a chance to watch football? Are you? Uh? Is

1227
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: this just your throwing darts here? No? I mean I

1228
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: feel like I've watched football in a deeper way than possible,

1229
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: I guess for a lot of other analysts. And so

1230
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: I flamed sort of my methodology. Tomorrow I got the

1231
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: um I got the go ahead to actually write the

1232
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: power Poll post. So I mean, if anyone's interested in

1233
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: really learning some stuff about the business, uh, you know,

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01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: it'll be a good read for everyone tomorrow. No one

1235
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: else had the Raiders in the top six and uh,

1236
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: and you had him number one? Are you concerned? You

1237
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: know that their games tend to come down to some

1238
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: almost flukey ending, like them getting a penalty on a

1239
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: failed fourth down at the end of regulation last week. Well,

1240
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: if I think, if if I was concerned, I wouldn't

1241
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: make them the number one team's football. You know what

1242
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: I mean, We're going all the way here uh here, Greg,

1243
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean this is uh, this is black Jack, Amari Khalil,

1244
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: this is the this is my team right now. How

1245
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: about kind of the critics out there that say that

1246
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: you putting out these type of lists every month, every

1247
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: month or so really speaks to you attempting to be

1248
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: something of an agent of chaos with our rankings rather

1249
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: than someone giving a real football takes. How do you

1250
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: how do you respond to that criticism? Well, you know,

1251
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: I think that there are a lot of people who

1252
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: don't know what they're talking about, and it's hard to

1253
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: kind of individually correct everyone that isn't as knowledgeable as me.

1254
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: But um, you know, I think the important thing is

1255
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: what I'm really doing is I'm adjusting the poll to

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01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: fit what how I view the NFL. And so now

1257
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: that I've sort of thrown everything off, every team sort

1258
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: of comes into where I thought they would land. So

1259
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: it's about you. Oh, it's all about me? Yeah, why

1260
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: else would I it's about me? Well, let me ask

1261
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: you a hypothetical. Let's say we did this exercise again

1262
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: next week. Would the Raiders being your top ten winner

1263
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: lose if if they beat the If they beat the Broncos,

1264
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: I gotta find a higher number than number one. You know,

1265
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: we gotta just forget the power pull. Just hand them

1266
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. That's that's what I would do. I

1267
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: mean with the with the Panthers, he put them down

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Speaker 1: so low, and we all questioned him and then it

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Speaker 1: became true. So maybe he's seen things, you know, roughly

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Speaker 1: at most a week ahead of us. Yeah, I kind

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Speaker 1: of him with him that the Panthers are going to

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Speaker 1: go on and run. Here, maybe Connor is the one

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Speaker 1: to follow U. I'm gonna tick down the list a

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Speaker 1: little bit more here, Nile Davis, when you're Madden Standouts,

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Speaker 1: you built an entire strip mall that bankrupt a small

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Speaker 1: town in his honor, and you're mad at football video game.

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Speaker 1: Now closer to you, your haunted Manchin. He's signed with

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Speaker 1: the Jets after being cut by the Packers. Any time

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Speaker 1: any chance you guys meet up for lunch? Yeah, I

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01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: mean I talked to him, you know, I think we

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Speaker 1: might go get I was just famous Gray, you know,

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: and uh, and just kind of talk about talk about

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01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: the Nile miles. See what he's thinking in terms of

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01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, maybe coming back to Portland's you know the packers.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? You have this guy on on

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01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: the bench and you're handing it off to some you know,

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01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: to some big guy from Oklahoma. It's like, let mile

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Speaker 1: room with you know, that's why you brought him in there.

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Speaker 1: How about a quick update on orible movies. I was curious.

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Speaker 1: Last summer we introduced a new segment on the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast in which uh connor takes a look

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01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: at the top on FI movie list of all time

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01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: and his his goal to watch every movie and give

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Speaker 1: them a review. Where are you at right now? Is

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01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: that's still something that's happening. I saw the last two days,

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Speaker 1: saw some excellent films that were left off the list.

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Speaker 1: On Halloween, I went with the thriller Hush, where a

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Speaker 1: deaf woman is stalked in her own home by a

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Speaker 1: by a murderer. So that was that amazing. And then

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Speaker 1: I saw that by the way, my wife and I

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01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: we were looking for kind of fun Halloween movies over

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01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: the weekend and I went through the hard section of Netflix,

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01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: and when I saw that, it did strike me as

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01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: quite funny. And then I saw the one star rating

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01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: and I said, well, I'm gonna probably stay away from that, well,

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01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: you know, one star like power rankings are subjective, and

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01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: I think that some people kind of understand things on

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Speaker 1: a different level. And I was really trying to feel

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Speaker 1: what the director was feeling when I watched that, and

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01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: and it felt right to me. Um, all right, So

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Speaker 1: before we let you go, Connor, I was thinking, because

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Speaker 1: that segment is just not going to take off. If

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Speaker 1: you're watching uh, death, death, what's the name of it,

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Speaker 1: Hush Hush. If you're watching hush, I mean, you're never

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Speaker 1: gonna get to any of the top one hundred. I

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01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: know that's not on the A five top one. Swim

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Speaker 1: Fan definitely not on the top one. Huh. Yeah, did

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Speaker 1: you have the thoughts on swim Fan? You you said

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Speaker 1: that earlier on our Excuse me? Are I am? Client? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I crushed that movie. I mean, what what a thriller

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Speaker 1: from beginning to end, really like you know, early two thousands,

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01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: you know, you're getting sort of the instant message Internet

1323
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: component in there, uh, you know, cell phones, video and

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01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: just you know, an amazing sort of roller coaster ride

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Speaker 1: from start to finish. Another one that I really think

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Speaker 1: deserves some recognition by the Academy. That one you had awesome,

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Speaker 1: missed the top one hundred. So before you go, we

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Speaker 1: you know, we always like to talk about what's the

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Speaker 1: next segment board general ideas for your career. I think

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01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: your last name gives gives you so many different avenues

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01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: to chase as you try to figure out where you

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01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: want to take your life in these next thirty or

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Speaker 1: so years of your working life. Right, um, so here

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Speaker 1: we go. You're right, I got some TV show ideas.

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Speaker 1: You'll let me know your your name. Okay, alright, this

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Speaker 1: one first one, and it would be on like let's say,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's like a I D Discovery something

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Speaker 1: like that. Orson I actually no, with a question mark. Orson.

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01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: It's a true crime series where you decide if fires

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01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: are crimes are accidental? Anythink on a true crime. It's

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01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: like a double on tendre for Orson Wells and Arson.

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01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: Now it triple on because you get Connor's name in there. Well,

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01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: I don't know where Orson Wells doesn't really involved with it.

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01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: It's well, he's the greatest director of all time, right right.

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01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 1: This is different though, this is not connected to movies

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01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: at all. This is just a series, a true crime series.

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01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: We want to plug in on that true crime genre,

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01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: which is huge. Right now, how about this one? Con Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, let's see what else you got, Okay,

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01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: this show? This next one would be at TLC or

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01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: a network like that orphanage. You and your wife opened

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01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 1: the door of your home to underprivileged kids in the

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Speaker 1: suburban New Jersey. All right, Yeah, I don't know if

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01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: we'd ever get the clearance for that, but I'm I'm

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01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: totally on board. Got to candy cash, alright, that generally

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01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: not a good thing as far as the authorities concerned.

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Speaker 1: All Right, how about this one? This one would be

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Speaker 1: on like ESPN, ESPN two early in the morning. Uh,

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01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: you know how they have those hunting shows that there's

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01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: no way anybody's watching it. Figure, why not throw another

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01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: one in the ring. This would be a show about

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01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: the best oars. People bring in different ores and you

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01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: choose what's the superior model. It would be called or

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01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 1: or Or. It's sort of like an antiques road show

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01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: meets meets voting kind of thing. Kind of Yeah, yeah,

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01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: exactly where you just I just like putting you in

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Speaker 1: different scenarios. Yeah, I mean, you know, you could you

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01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: could go with that. You could go with an order

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01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: in the court, you know where I could think look

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Speaker 1: at the central or perfect the justice system, or maybe

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Speaker 1: the barometre where I take your temperature. The last one,

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Speaker 1: this one, I'm just work shopping a little bit um,

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01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: but I wanted something for that young male demographic. And

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01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm kind of trying to cash in on that bad

1375
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,839
Speaker 1: grandpa thing where you just kind of go into everyday

1376
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 1: settings and cause hell man, that was hugely successful. Yeah,

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01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: put in heavy prosthetics, a little bit of a rip

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01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: off of Jackass, but here we go, or in Hatch

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01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: where he put you an old person makeup and then

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01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: you just go places and you you you portray the

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01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 1: longtime U. S. Senator and you cause hell in your

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01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: hometown and we have it all on camera. I Uh,

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01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: I never thought I would fall in love with an

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01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: idea of like instantly, But that that's it. I mean,

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01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: I don't think we got it. You know, we can

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01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: touch them some of the details and posts. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's it. You need a title like Wears or

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01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: in Hatch, maybe you might need to you might need

1389
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: to check with the Office of or in Hatch, let's

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01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: see what they think. It's fund have an office. Well

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01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 1: what Connor had promised that the only way he would

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01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: get on this show today was that he was going

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01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: to do it from his house without clothing on. Are

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01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: you wearing clothing? Oh? Yeah, I totally forgot about that.

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01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 1: I fell then. Yeah, for the best. I fell asleep

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01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: after work and then I figured the phone call would

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01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: wake me up. Breaking news, Connor. We're all nude right now,

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01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna che um. All right, Connor, I think

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Speaker 1: we've caught up. Well. I always enjoyed to have you

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Speaker 1: on the show, and think about all those show ideas.

1401
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 1: Get me in touch with your agent. Maybe we could

1402
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: sit down and figure out what's the right path to

1403
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 1: follow here as we as we move forward, Danny, it

1404
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: was real and it was fun, but it wasn't real

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01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: fun that comes when we see each other again. My

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01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: friend said, r e eo mm hmm um. All right

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01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 1: there he goes Connor or Thank you uh to Connor

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Speaker 1: for joining us, Thank you for everyone for listening to us.

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01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: And remember a reminder here that uh, every Saturday, our

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Speaker 1: new show that we're on on NFL network, Uh pick them,

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01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: NFL pick NFL, pick them, uh. You can check out

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Speaker 1: your local listings and check us out on that and

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01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: of course check out the Around the A podcast three

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01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: times a week. You can also, you know, give us

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01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: a review on iTunes, comment with that it's good. That's

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Speaker 1: it for today's shows. That Dan handsOn signing off for

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Speaker 1: The Sizzler, the Mailman, the Boss, and I said behind

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Speaker 1: the Glass till Thursday. The purpose of evolution is to

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Speaker 1: pull us out of the mud, not to wallow in it. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westley, here's your Easter egg. This guy's fired up.