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Speaker 1: coming up next, okay, and this is this is going

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Speaker 1: to be magical. Okay. First up, Muggsy Bogues, the Muggsy

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Speaker 1: Bogues NBA icon, who is not in the NBA Hall

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Speaker 1: You know, i love Muggsy Bogues so much. I'm just

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Speaker 1: And the first question I'm gonna ask him, are you

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Speaker 1: that you could play in the NBA, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: is fascinating fun. Tony Robbins, Okay, who wants to hear

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Speaker 1: from Tony Robbins, He's six ft nine, Okay, I want

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Speaker 1: to hear from Muggsy Bogus. He should be doing ted

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Speaker 1: talks and inspirational speaking cross the globe. Muggsy Bogs, will

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Speaker 1: we rock with me on the Iron Rapports Stereo Podcasts

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Speaker 1: plus Dean Collins? Okay? The Young Shooter can a shooter shoot.

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Speaker 1: He's sharing some wacky, whacked out spacelight sexual escapades on

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Speaker 1: the Iron rap Reports Stereo podcats. This is gonna be fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Plus from Rough and Rowdy too, my guys, Shawan Latham. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Sean Latham is going to be fighting Friday night, February sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Barstool is having Rough and Rowdy two. And if you

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Speaker 1: listen to the Iron Rapports Stereo podcast, and if you

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Speaker 1: listen to the Fantasy Football follows, you've heard us talk

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Speaker 1: about Schmitty Barstool Schmitty, the guy who steals fantasy football lineups.

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Speaker 1: I call him can Job Smitty. Well, Shan Latham is

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Speaker 1: fighting in Friday night pay per view on Rough and

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Speaker 1: Rowdy two. Okay, and I am looking forward to Sean

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Speaker 1: Lathan kicking his fucking ass. So I'm gonna talk to

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Speaker 1: Sean Latham, better known as a twenty dollar chef. It's

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Speaker 1: an exclusive. He's the headliner Friday Night Rough and Rowdy.

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Speaker 1: Sean Latham. But first me and the Young Shooter are

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Speaker 1: gonna do our think. Then we have the great Muggsy Bogues.

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Speaker 1: Then we got my man, Shan Latham on the Iron

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Speaker 1: Rapports stereo podcast Miles Jordan's let Me Get Something Funky

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Speaker 1: and Fantastic. They remade a classic. The movie Death Wish

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Speaker 1: is coming to theaters March second, starring Bruce Willis. Bruce

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Speaker 1: action sequences. The film asked a question, how would would

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Speaker 1: you go to protect your more would you go to

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Speaker 1: protect your family. It's starring Bruce Willis, Elizabeth Shoe, Vincent

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Speaker 1: presents director Eli ross reimagining of the nineteen seventy four

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Speaker 1: revenge thriller Death Wish. Dr Paul Kersey is a surgeon

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Speaker 1: this already saw this film. I saw the original with

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Speaker 1: by Eli Rold. This fucking movie is Don't you haven't

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Speaker 1: MGM Pictures. March second. All right, came, we saw, We Conquered,

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Speaker 1: Have No Fear. The I Am Rappaports Stereo podcast. This

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Speaker 1: yere G Moody, whose last name rhymes with duty, could

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Speaker 1: not make this episode. He will be back on Friday

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Speaker 1: for the next episode of the Iron Reports Stereo podcast.

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Speaker 1: What we will be doing a full review of Alonzo

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. The people can't wait. It's All Star weekend. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's All Star weekend. So we've got so much basketball,

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Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I have like six inches on him.

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Speaker 1: That's that's insane crazy. And you can't Can you touch

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Speaker 1: Miles special for the people. I would like you to

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Speaker 1: play the chapter the Audacity Muggsy Bogues from my book

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Speaker 1: This Book has Balls Sports Rants from the m v

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm hyped up to talk to them

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Speaker 1: You did do that. Now you know that I did that,

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Speaker 1: and I went into different Chevalier bookstore. I went in there,

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Speaker 1: Two things that I've learned, maybe three things that I've learned.

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Speaker 1: to me, you're on a diet. Huh, it's not like

419
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Speaker 1: stuff in my face and now punch you. I'm gonna

420
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 1: stuff my pie hole with this. Ben and Jerry's what

421
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 1: is it? Late night? What tonight though? You know what

422
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 1: I we've been talking about the tonight though? This tonight though?

423
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: That where's the fucking sponsor? I mean, we've given him

424
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,479
Speaker 1: so much, so much more talking about it anymore? Thank you?

425
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 1: Say this though. If you want an alternative to to

426
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Speaker 1: Ben and Jerry's, try to lenty t A. It's in

427
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Speaker 1: all the stores, it's in safe it's all the supermarks.

428
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Speaker 1: But trust me, don't spell it out because we're not

429
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Speaker 1: getting any of this ship. Forget that. Okay, So all right,

430
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 1: let's get to it. Cool, let's get to it. Um.

431
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Speaker 1: Muggsy Bogues is joining us on the Iron Wrap Reports

432
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Speaker 1: Stereo podcast. Okay, and I couldn't be more excited to

433
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Speaker 1: have the Muggsy bogs Tyrone. Muggsy Bogus is coming up

434
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 1: next on the Iron Wrap Ports Stereo podcast. How you doing, man,

435
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm good, yo. I gotta be honest. This might be

436
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: the podcast the interview that the conversation that that, uh,

437
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm the most excited and nervous about because growing up

438
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: watching you play was was so unique and so special

439
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: and and there may or may not be another mic,

440
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 1: but there will definitely never ever be another Muggsy Bogues. Man.

441
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 1: You're one of a kind. Man, oh man, I appreciate

442
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 1: that those kind words that you're saying, but you know

443
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: me growing up in that in the city of Baltimore,

444
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 1: on that, on that saying a lot, trying to grind,

445
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: trying to eat, trying to show them guys that no

446
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: matter how tall small y'all, you can set this game

447
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: of basketball. All right, Before we get into specific things,

448
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: the first question I have to ask this is like,

449
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: this is like NBA folklore, It's like urban folklore. It's

450
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 1: like an urban myth. It's reported that you had a

451
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: forty four inch vertical leap. I finally need to get

452
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: to know, did you ever dunked the fucking ball Muggsy bowls,

453
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: yes or no? I want to I want to answer,

454
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: and I want to send it to Washington. I want

455
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: to send it to the Smithsonian. I want to send

456
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: it to the NBA. Whole of Fame's true and true. Yeah,

457
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: I had a forty four inch vertical and you can dunk.

458
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: And I was able to dunkle ball. I just didn't

459
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 1: have big, big hands and to where I can palm

460
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: the ball and I can palm a volleyball where I

461
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: could just run up and and dunking. But I had

462
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: the ball had to come up the room in order

463
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: for me to throw it back in, you know. But

464
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: I was able to get up there a little bit.

465
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Speaker 1: You know. You know it's documented that my my forty

466
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: four inch vertical had to combine up in Chicago. Is

467
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: uh is valid now now? I mean, if Instagram and

468
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: social media existed back then, you would have broken the

469
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: damn internet, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know how that

470
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: social media back then, boy, A lot of things we've

471
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Speaker 1: probably been broken. So so muggs man. I mean, your

472
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: career is so like I said, it's so unique. You know.

473
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: I loved uh just watching the ESPN documentary The Baltimore Boys.

474
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys have been so documented everything that

475
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: UH at Dunbar. There was so much competition, so much,

476
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean, the East Coast top to bottom. You know,

477
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: you guys, David Wingate, Reggie Williams, Reggie Lewis and you

478
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: were running the point might be one of the best

479
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: high school basketball teams ever assembled. At what point did

480
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: you say I want to play in the NBA? Because

481
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: at five ft three and when I met you, I

482
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: bugged out because I was like, Yo, this wasn't no gimmick.

483
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: They didn't like, oh, he wasn't five nine, Like for

484
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: five ft three in the NBA more than your talent, muggsy,

485
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: and more than than what you accomplish, Like your mental

486
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: fortitude is what trips me out, man, because at five

487
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: three to say I'm going to play forget even the NBA,

488
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: but like Division one basketball, it's so far firs Like

489
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: at what point, like like what was your going through

490
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: your head? Man? Like it's crazy because like I wrote

491
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: about it in the book, like your your imagination and

492
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: the way you were seeing the world was different than

493
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: then everybody else, especially people at five three in basketball,

494
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: like five threes, Like that's not that's not professional basketball height,

495
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: Like where was your head at? Well, you know, you

496
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: gotta understand where I come from, and you know in

497
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: the in the city of Baltimore, you know that it's

498
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: it's it's out in them streak and out that that

499
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: from those play uh those play lots. Man. It's challenging

500
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: and people could be really cruel, you know, growing up

501
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: in that type of atmosphere. But you know, I think

502
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: my mind in terms of believing in myself, it goes

503
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: back to from once I got shot, I got shot.

504
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Speaker 1: After I got shot at the age of five, you know,

505
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: it just did. I didn't give a damn mattitude. You know,

506
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: I don't care about what people said, what people believe.

507
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: I just have that belief that you know, what all

508
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: I want to do, I should be able to do it.

509
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Speaker 1: And I just carried that mindset regardless of whatever type

510
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: of spots that I played, because wrassling was one of

511
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: my main sports because that was one of the you know,

512
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: the things that wasn't really you know, looked upon as

513
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: union needs height, you didn't need any type of size.

514
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: It was all about muscles and strength and skills and

515
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: and I had all of that and when I was

516
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: doing that wrastling. But you know, my my passion, my

517
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: heart was you know, in the game of basketball, you know,

518
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: putting them people that I can't play this thing. And

519
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: you know, in high school, have been around you know,

520
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: some of the town to play let myself and Reggie

521
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: Winds and the David Wingate growing up. You know, I

522
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: believe that I can play this game, you know, and

523
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: and and you know every opponent that I went up against,

524
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: and my mindset was if I played against the best,

525
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Speaker 1: and if I had success against the best, then I

526
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: must be included with the best. And that was something

527
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: that I took on the floor every time I stepped

528
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Speaker 1: on the basketball court. I mean, you you did it. Now.

529
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know about this, Like, so

530
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: what you you just mentioned it? Like you you got

531
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Speaker 1: shot when you were five years old? How the fund

532
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 1: did that happen? Well, you know, been in the I

533
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: played at the wrong time, you know, growing up, And I,

534
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: I said, in Baltimore it was everything and summertimes, you know,

535
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: things are going on and uh and outside of my

536
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: my my wonder, a fight took place and I went

537
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: outside to be nosy and my mom's and I'm getting

538
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: my mom and I'm didn't know I snuck outside, but

539
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: my brother and my sister was already out there, and

540
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: but you know, I wanted to get out there and

541
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: see what was going on. And once I realized that,

542
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, the guy that broke Old Chester window, you

543
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: know Old Chester, then decided running his shed and to

544
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: have his double brothers shotgun and just start shooting. You know,

545
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: all the kids scattered around and but unfortunately I was

546
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: the one that got hit. So yeah, but that that

547
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: that that was a lesson run, I'm sure man um.

548
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: All right, So when you were playing it at Wake four,

549
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: you guys had a crew and the A C c

550
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: UH and the Big East I mean from like those

551
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: were that's where it was. Uh. You were a fucking

552
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: a pain in the ass out there, Like dudes couldn't

553
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: bring the ball up the court, and you know, you

554
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: would push push, push, push push the ball and the

555
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: speed and just like I mean you were. You were

556
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: a whirling dervish out there. Who were the other players

557
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: when you played at Wake Forest Uh that that you

558
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: look forward to playing against uh at the college level,

559
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: or that that that you gave the hardest time? And

560
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: who were the players that gave you the hardest time? Well,

561
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: you know she was back then we had Kenny Smith

562
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: at Carolina with UH, Spud Web and and those boys

563
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: over at NC State. Earnie mind. Then you go down

564
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: to Clempston, you had Vince Hamilton's. You go to Mountain

565
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: then buy and keep gabbling and go up to Georgia,

566
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: cap Mark Price. I mean you go down to Duke,

567
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: Tommy Amams and Johnny Dolphins. I mean it was thick.

568
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: It was thick. And that was that was one of

569
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: the reason when I decided to go away, Charles, but

570
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: because I knew that I had to put myself in

571
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: that type of competition with Night in the Night and

572
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: the night Out, that you was gonna have to, you know,

573
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: play against the best in the in the in the country,

574
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: and uh and playing against the Carolines and Bean Smith

575
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: and those guys. You know, Kenny coming from New York

576
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: having that swag and having that you know, that type

577
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: of uh you know, uh played around type of play. Uh.

578
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: You knew that you had to come with it. And

579
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: I knew that if I can be successful here in

580
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: a CEC, then uh, you know, things gonna be looking

581
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: really good for him to going forward. Um. And that

582
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: was one of the reasons why I decided to go away.

583
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: And now, so Kenny Smith and those outs at North Carolina,

584
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: I mean and and Duke, these places were like, uh,

585
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, like historically crazy places. Way when when you

586
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: played the A c C. What was the place that

587
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: had the craziest crowds back then. I mean atmosphere I

588
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: used to still see today, you know, deep with seven

589
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: thousand fans screaming right on top of you, you know,

590
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: and keep it, you know at this time, you know

591
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: one you know, my sophomore year, unfortunately for me, I

592
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: had a death threat put on me. Damn. When I

593
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: was Yeah, I was about to go play Duke, and

594
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: I guess, um a lot of things was going on

595
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: at the at the time. A lot of uh negative

596
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: crazy folks was happening and sent uh some threatening messater

597
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: away for its campus. And I was getting a lot

598
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: of tension at the time, and they decided to you know,

599
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: to put my name, attach my name to the article.

600
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: And then the guy decided to, uh say that if

601
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: I played in that Duke game, that the next morning

602
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: they will find me laid up in the gutter with

603
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,239
Speaker 1: a bullet with a bullet in my head. And this

604
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: is just like crazy fans. Yeah, it was a crazy fan.

605
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: It was it was the old man that ast mental

606
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: issues and but mainly it was you know, he was

607
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: sending death threat to the university for quite some time.

608
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: But like I said, I was getting a lot of

609
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: publicity at the time, so he decided to catch my

610
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: name to to his threat. But you know, coach came

611
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: to me and asked me, you know us, you know,

612
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: you know this is what's going on. What you do

613
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: you want to play? I understand the circumstance in the situation.

614
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: I feel a coach man, I'm from bottomore man. And

615
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: the shot up out of the shot already, so you know,

616
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: this is my heart is there's anything gonna happen. I

617
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: ran before happening on the basketball course and you wanted

618
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: up plan. I wind up plan, had a great game,

619
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: got to play the game. We wind up beating Dupe

620
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: that day, which was you know, which they were a

621
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: favorite at that time, but we wind up beating them,

622
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: and uh, I got to play the game. So it

623
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: was it was it was a great, a great way

624
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: to send us. It off. Now a lot of people,

625
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: you know the lad gend of Lenn Bias. I had

626
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: the uh, the pleasure of seeing him, you know, just

627
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: because uh, you know, my age in in college, um,

628
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: you know, and in Maryland and this is you know,

629
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: with Jordan's and you know Lenn and you know, there

630
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: was so much damn talent, you know, and there was

631
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: you know college basketball and I think even NBA because

632
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: there wasn't the access that we have today. You know,

633
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: you had to you made a choice. I'm going to watch,

634
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, Maryland play, I'm going to watch North Carolina play.

635
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to watch whoever play the Knicks play the Sixers.

636
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: You know, there was no replay. You know, you you

637
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: watch the games and and you watched it closely because

638
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: you didn't know if you were ever going to see

639
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: the highlights of game. How good was Lynn Bias when

640
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: you look back at his career, you know, obviously he

641
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: never played a pro game. How good of a basketball player?

642
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: Do you think he would have wound up being Lenny?

643
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: I mean, let it was unbelievable. I mean you talk

644
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: about the best way I can give a comparison is

645
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: that you know, we see the m J today, Michael

646
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: Jordan back when he was playing, and you know, Lenny

647
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: we was just a two inches card in Mike to say,

648
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: same type of body um and not saying that he

649
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: would have been a Michael Jordan's, but he had he

650
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: would have been close to it. Because he could score

651
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: the basketball at well, he had to jump shot, he

652
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: had a post game, he could put the ball on

653
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: the floor and Boston. I mean they understood that, you know,

654
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: with Live being able to about to, you know, on

655
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: his way out of the lay that this was the

656
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: guy that can carry on that torch. And but unfortunately,

657
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't able to, uh to see it

658
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: through because with him and then Reggie Laws was coming

659
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: right behind him. Who would become that star that that franchise.

660
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: I mean, those they would have been, you know, they

661
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't have missed the beat, they would have been left

662
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: out the where they've been, where they were in the eighties.

663
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: When did you realize you were gonna get drafted in

664
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: the NBA? Like how did that work back then? Like

665
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: when did you realize, Yo, I'm about to play in

666
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: the NBA, Like I'm about to be drafted, and like,

667
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: what do you remember about that time? Well, I think

668
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: the I always believe I was gonna do it. But

669
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: I think the true, true, uh time when I knew

670
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: it was gonna happen is right after the the the Olympics,

671
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: well the World Games that I we I was able

672
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: to represent an eighty six my junior year. Uh, you know,

673
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: that was the year that we were able to I

674
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: was able to go up there and be part of

675
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: that good will the USA uh feeble game. And it

676
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: was myself, Kenny Smith, David Robinson, that mckeeth, Sean Elliott, uh,

677
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: Tommy Avocat, Brian Shaw, Uh, we had Charles Smith. Uh.

678
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: We have Ronnie Cychling, I mean Gilliam Yeah. And the

679
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: coach was lud Osan Uh from Zonah. He was the

680
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: coach at the time. It was you know, it was

681
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: it was that was a time where you know, we

682
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: had to go up to College Lode and they invited

683
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: the top fifty top players in college to come and

684
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: represent to trial, I should say, and you know I was.

685
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: I was able to go up there and I made

686
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: the cut and made I only made the cut, but

687
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: I was able to be one of the starters to

688
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: bring home that gold medal. Yo, Muggsy, that is fucking

689
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: crazy man. Yeah, that means I don't think people are

690
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: like if they didn't get to see you play like

691
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: you were a one of a kind man. You were

692
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: playing and busting the biggest everybody's asked like you were

693
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: out there busting people's ask me, your career is fucking

694
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: crazy man. Well, I appreciate that and then not only

695
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: that much that that was the last time the collegiate

696
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: thing that they sent over to represent the US to

697
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: win the gold medal, because after that, you know, we

698
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: lost in eight eight with go uh and then they

699
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: sent the Dream team and nothing too. When when you

700
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: guys were playing over there, um as as all college players,

701
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: you're playing against our Vitas Sabonis, Oscar Schmidt, Drivesing Petrovitch.

702
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: These guys were grown men, right, like they're older than you,

703
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: and like they're they're like they're almost like a team ready,

704
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: team ready to play you guys, and you guys have

705
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: a short period of time. That's correct, that that's correct,

706
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: and it would have think about it was that you

707
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: know you just mentioned that all the time of the

708
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: European players that was that's doing that time, the Sabonis,

709
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: the driving, the pasture Day, the Scots, yeah uh, you know,

710
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: the you had the driving oscart Oscott from Bazil. Yeah,

711
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: those guys was you know, those were professionals at the time.

712
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: You know, we were just collegiate basketball players that went

713
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: over to you know, represent our country and and you know,

714
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: it was a long war going on at the time

715
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: in eighty six, so it was a scery time plus

716
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 1: when we went over there, but we were sports enough

717
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: to win it all. We've got a good experience. And

718
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: then again it set off a lot of us, you

719
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: know pretty much, uh in that draft that allows us

720
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: to you know pretty much you know, start out career

721
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: because in the eight seven draft, I mean all of

722
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: us that we was on that team got drafted except

723
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: for Time. Yam, wow, that's crazy, man. So so you

724
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: you you made it to the NBA. You got drafted

725
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: by the Bully. They were the Bullets at the time,

726
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: the Washington Bullets. Now they're the Wizards. I still call

727
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: do you still calling the Bullets? Like, do you does

728
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: your instincts still go to call on the Bullets at times?

729
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: It does at times, you know. So that's where you

730
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: grew up in the Bullets while we had the bottom

731
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: of Bullets and Washington Bullets. And then now that with it,

732
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: they kind of, you know, they kind of throw you off,

733
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: but you know, you stay up with the times who

734
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: were your favorite players because like I said, and I

735
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: mean it's from the bottom of heart, like you're one

736
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: of a kind, you know, and it's it's not like

737
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: you're like some six ft nine dude to be like, yo,

738
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like you know, west U Seller, I'm

739
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: gonna be like this one or that one. Who did

740
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: you sort of look up to his basketball players? Like

741
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: who are the guys that you loved watching when when

742
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: you were a kid in high school and even in

743
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: your counsel who are the guys that you look up to?

744
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: Because your game, it was, was all into itself because

745
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: of your size. And that is true, and and it

746
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: was hard to find anyone that kind of fit mine,

747
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: you know, my flacteria, because no one was out there,

748
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: you know at the time. You know, in the NBA

749
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: you had Charlie Chris and Marty Til they were small,

750
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: tiny artball, you know, tiny six ft though he shouldn't

751
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: be tiny. Yeah, that's what I was saying, was six

752
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: one h tiny isn't tiny. I don't know what the

753
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: hell where who gave him that nickname? Tiny's not tiny? Yeah? Yeah, So,

754
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: but I had a guy in my neighborhood. He would

755
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: have been he Fosh. But if he didn't decided to

756
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: go to Georgia as opposed to Virginia State, if he

757
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: were Georgia would When dom Nick was there, the name

758
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: was Dwayne Wood. He was five and cold was one

759
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: of the baddest law guys I ever saying. And that's

760
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: how I kind of got my style. I got you

761
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: basically on him how to let guys go in front

762
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: of you and steal the ball behind them. You know,

763
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: those little tactics that you use, how to run your team.

764
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: Um so those little things that kind of paid off

765
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: from me in terms of learning those little but you know,

766
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: once you learn a little stuff. But it came natural

767
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah. But the answer to the question was

768
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: Miles was growing up, was kind of like him in

769
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: my neighborhood because I had nobody to really relate to.

770
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: I got you. I have to imagine. I always look

771
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: at the mentality, like the mentality of little dudes, and

772
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: I always say this, whether it's Nate Robinson, Allen Iverson, Charlie,

773
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: Chris Spudweb, I always imagine that you guys, the smaller

774
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: guys that are playing with the fucking big guys, whether

775
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: it's football, baseball, but particularly in the NBA, you guys

776
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: are the toughest motherfucker's on the team. Like you're the

777
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: guys that like like you, you have to be like

778
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: the toughest dudes like you don't take no ship, like

779
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 1: you can't be like under six ft playing the NBA

780
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: and take any ship like Nate Robertson I imagine would

781
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: kick most motherfucker's asked in the NBA, just because you've

782
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: overcome so much playing ball in the streets, like just

783
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: the way you came up. Well, you gotta have that

784
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: mentality knowing that you're just as big as you know,

785
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: as anyone on the floor. You know, no matter how

786
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: your size. You know you they say you made the

787
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: five three, but you played like you seven two, And

788
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the respect that you get from the

789
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: guys that's out there, and you know, and growing up

790
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: in mind, you know everybody, you know, it'd be big

791
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: big gods. Everybody wanted big big god um, but you

792
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: know we had you know, we just have a meane

793
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: to where I felt like this game has so much

794
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: to offer to where the way they would be played

795
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: if and then that that position, if you had you

796
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: if you understood it, you know you can say you

797
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: can play it at the highest level that the game

798
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: is being you know, as you wanted. And I felt

799
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: a little different, and that's why And as a small god.

800
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: You gotta be able, you gotta get a change the game.

801
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: You can't just play the game like a big god.

802
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: So when you were in the league, were your first

803
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: NBA game, do you do you remember the first time

804
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: you stepped on the NBA floor and like what that

805
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: experience was like, and like who were you playing against?

806
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: And was there that welcome to the NBA moment or

807
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: where you're like after all the playing high school college

808
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: to actually reach that dream. Do you remember that that moment,

809
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: like when you're actually on the NBA floor and what

810
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: that was to you? Absolutely? And then the first game

811
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: we we were the name they in the m C

812
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: I still the now, which we played in the Capital

813
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: Center back in Baltimore, I mean back in uh Landomb

814
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: and my black first game was against the Latest which

815
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: gives magic. You know, you know they was making a

816
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: big thing about you know magic and six nine, the

817
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: five three Muggy Bowls and so that was you know

818
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: when you get the butterflies and you know the magic

819
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: was you know something that you look up to you

820
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: as you got a little older, you saw a guy

821
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: playing at your position and no on the okay, cool,

822
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: you know this could be this could be interesting. You know,

823
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: guy playing your position at this height. Uh, out there

824
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: maneuver doing the things that you do. You know, he

825
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: looking over top, but you more or less looking through around.

826
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: So uh, it became it became, it became something that

827
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: I you know, I started to kind of get excited

828
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: about the day that we played against him. And then

829
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: you know, and once we got on the court, they're

830
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: about to throw the ball up. He looked at me.

831
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: We looked at each other, gave each other a little death.

832
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: Of course, the little little chuckle came in for that

833
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: the first time you ever saw me, you know, the person.

834
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: But put that ball on the floor the first tree times,

835
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: you know, he realized is gone. You rob? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

836
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: I got in the first two and then he had

837
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: he had bob and bring it up the next time

838
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: and went strict to the post. That's crazy, man. So

839
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: you were checking your first game in the NBA. You're

840
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: guarding Magic Johnson. Yeah, yeah, Magic Johnson. Holy shit, man.

841
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: And and so when when when you're when I understand,

842
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: like on the perimeter, because you're using your speed, especially

843
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: against something the mismatch is so apparent, Like you said,

844
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: he's looking over you you're trying to go low. What

845
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: do you do when he gets you in the post?

846
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: Your five ft This dude is over a foot taller

847
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: than you could see NBA back then, Like, how do

848
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: you even try to defend that? Well? You know a

849
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: little then, you know, I was a little strong back then, right,

850
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: So I was low to that ground. And my thing was,

851
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, I know how to put that form in

852
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: your back, yes, and make your work and my and

853
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: my understanding was actually all he knew a lot of

854
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: guys didn't know how to play with that back towards

855
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: the back, a lot of guards, but Magic was one

856
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: of them who did you know? And but this main

857
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: thing was that he want to pass out of it.

858
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: He don't want to score the post, so he wants

859
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: the double team to come down so he can make

860
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: them create that pass. So I said, if you score,

861
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: he scoled, give him the two. It's two is too

862
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: what we don't do that other opportunity where he's getting

863
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: everybody off, getting the crowd all excited and this and that.

864
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: You know, so but I hold my own trust me,

865
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: so let me know, let me let me do what

866
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: I do and then uh and and then so that's

867
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: how we did that. But you know it was always

868
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: look easy, always easier than it was, you know, when

869
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: guys were wanted to try to post me up? And

870
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: who were some of the other dudes that you would

871
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: match up? Like, wh who are the guys that you remember?

872
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: And you could brag mugs, you could talk ship. Listen,

873
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: this is the iron Ra stereo pocket. You have the

874
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: right to talk ship. Who are the guys that you

875
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: gave the most havoc to? And who were the guys

876
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: that you know you had the most problems with guarding?

877
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: Like and also if you can and this is another question,

878
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: explain that, I mean could you because you you just

879
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: mentioned about when Magic had you in the post you

880
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: could put your form in his back and that's what

881
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: the hand checking and everything. Do you think I mean,

882
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: the game is so different now. Do you think you

883
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: would be able to play with the with the way

884
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: they're calling the games now and the defense, it's so

885
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: you're such at uh, you're so vulnerable, like the offense

886
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: has such they have all the cards in their head.

887
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: Do you think you'd be able to play defense? Because

888
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: I know you'd be able to like get off offensively,

889
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: But do you think you'll be able to defend in

890
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: this day and age because they call every single tic

891
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: tac foul without a doubt. Because one thing about play

892
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: with that, you know, I could be aggressive without even

893
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: without even really you know, truing you. You know, you know,

894
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I'm like basketball, and you know, and

895
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: and I always teach my guys nose on the ball,

896
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, and don't look and no looking at no

897
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,959
Speaker 1: waste and all this, uh this nose on the ball,

898
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: and what do you mean by mean and by when

899
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: your nose is only on defensively, If my nose is

900
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: on the ball, that mean I'm right there connected to

901
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: you and your body to where the ball is is

902
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: ways high because that's the defensive position that I'm in.

903
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: And and my thing is that you know, once that

904
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: ball started to travel to go down as you drew

905
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: him the basketball, and that's where I got a lot

906
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: of my skills, because when the ball started to go down,

907
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: you can't stop it from coming back up. And then

908
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, as that as they driven that ball down,

909
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: calling that plays and the punk or so forth. You know,

910
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: as that ball going down, that's when I'm shooting the gap.

911
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: And by time and by time that ball hit the flow, mother,

912
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: And and you know I didn't already did what I did?

913
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: You know? So who I mean? You played in such

914
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: a crazy ra Tim Hardaway, Isaiah Thomas, Magic, Clyde Drexler,

915
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: John Stockton, these guys, you're in your prime. These guys

916
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: are in their primes. So who do you remember? Like

917
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm asking John Stockton, what was he like going to

918
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: matching up against? Because everybody that was a tough motherfucker

919
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: he could play. He seemed like he played dirty. He

920
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: didn't give a ship who was in front of What

921
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: do you remember all playing about Stockton? Well, John Stockton,

922
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: you know here and now and from nine of the

923
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: ninetyfour we was making the top two assists in the

924
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: in the NBA. And but he was just one of

925
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: those fund in them deceptional quick you know, white guys

926
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: that people just didn't understood how tell that he was.

927
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: He was so smart, he was so shocked in terms

928
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: of how to create separation and then how to make

929
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: your guys you know you better. And that's and those

930
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: are the qualities that you want in your poorn guard.

931
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: Having that understanding how to take understand a certain situations

932
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: and how to continue you to, you know, to get

933
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: make guys you an't better. I mean the ones you

934
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: punch him to call alone was I mean, they're the best.

935
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: They were the best at it, you know, and did

936
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: it for a hot for a long play of time,

937
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: for at a high performance too, for a long person huh.

938
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: But again, he was one of the dirtiest players out there,

939
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, always. And that's one thing about calling alone,

940
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: my bird. First year, they told me, they said us

941
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: watch called alone, because he liked to said dirty screens

942
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: against you, against called alone, I mean against stopped me.

943
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: So I come out, Well, he got a good one on,

944
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: I said, called me any better watch that just suck

945
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: you a little mother about Okay, So next time I

946
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: came around and had my elbows out, you know, have

947
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: my elbows out. I'm down low and I'm coming through.

948
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: So next time he's coming through the set the screen,

949
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm coming through the screen with my elbows put him

950
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: writing enough there, Hey what you're saying, I better look out?

951
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: Your ask better look out? You set a blige scream

952
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: coming in with mail boat and yeah, yeah, yeah, but

953
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: they they and that's the respect that I got, you know.

954
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: That's one thing and nobody talked to Trash, you know,

955
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: the guys Peyton and none of them, they weren't talking

956
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: to Trash like that. To me, they talked to all

957
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: the other cats. Well, we have some battles though, that's

958
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: me of the battles. What about Isaiah Thomas, of course,

959
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: Detroit Piston, Isaiah Thomas. I mean, he's not much taller

960
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: than you. He's a badass. You're a badass. What do

961
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: you remember about playing against Zeke? Yeah, Zick, Zeke was.

962
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: Zick was a bad boy, you know, Zick was. You

963
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: know one thing about Zike, you know it stands out

964
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 1: because you always told the referee because when he jumped.

965
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: You know, I had a little tricks to my little

966
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 1: game where I played. You know, once you leave your feet,

967
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,479
Speaker 1: you know I touched your thinker. I touched your cat knee,

968
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: touching the legs, you know, and when you when you

969
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: think you go shoot your shot, and then nigga touching

970
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: your leg you know you're thinking about coming down, you know,

971
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: you ain't so focusing on shooting that shot all the time.

972
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: And I used to get Zeke on that all I

973
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: should get him on that all the time. Time he

974
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: got through the little shots, just him on his little knee.

975
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: And he used to be that he's going to each

976
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: other left. Yet you gotta go the worse brood. He said,

977
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: you gotta watch no washing up cup washing on loose.

978
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 1: That's funny. I said, yeah, boys, you that's the little

979
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: thing you gotta do to get by man because you

980
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: know that was that was a big that was ruled

981
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: back and out and nowadays ship But Williams gave me

982
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: my first stitches when I came in that he he

983
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: was what was Buck like? Because he didn't he never said.

984
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,959
Speaker 1: I never think I've ever seen him small. I watched

985
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: him play in New Jersey Portland's. That was a mean dude,

986
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: right he was so he was naming on the car

987
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: buddies of the Nights guy. But you know Buck had

988
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: that he was, you know, going that time. He always

989
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: every team has some sort of and the four stuck

990
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: else they want to call himself on the team. They

991
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: didn't force um and but you know about just played

992
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: rough rugged, you know, elbows thrown everywhere, you know. And

993
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: the first thing Big Moses told me literally, little fellow

994
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: around in the pink, you know in pink with the

995
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: with the before it you could get funked up down

996
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: that Malone told you that. Yeah, you know that was

997
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: that was my mentor when I first came him and

998
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: him he brought me, you know when I came to league.

999
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: You know, that was my day there. You know, Mosen

1000
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: was my name, you the one that kind of gave

1001
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: me the insight on what the lead was about and

1002
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: you know with the look out for how to maintain

1003
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: on and off the court. So that was my cast

1004
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: name him nil uh dope man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that

1005
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: was my guys. You know that's why I was able

1006
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: to last those fourteen years. Man, what is that seventeen years?

1007
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: If my mama went the fast away because I had

1008
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: three years and left on my contract. But but you

1009
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: know that's what that's what the youngest need. They need

1010
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: that insight, they need that veteran guy that you know,

1011
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: that understanding, you know how to keep moving forward, you

1012
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: know how to keep bettering yourself because I'll tell you, man,

1013
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: it's tough. It's tough out there when um, when you

1014
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: ain't got that type of that type of support, when

1015
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: you know, I can imagine, I can imagine and like

1016
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: having those with like Moses man through the a b

1017
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: a coming out in high school and that's just and

1018
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: that is so dope. Man, Well what about what about

1019
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan? You played against Michael Jordan's in his prime,

1020
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: like you guys career, Like I can't. I think he

1021
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: might have come into the league a couple of years

1022
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: before you. First of all, when was the first time

1023
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: you played against him? Was it in college? Was it

1024
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: at five star basketball camp? Like? When was it? Well?

1025
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: First time I played against was in college? Okay, and

1026
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: you're older than him, right, he's older than this, he's

1027
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: older than you. Yeah, he's older than that at that

1028
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: time in college? Was he special? Was he just a

1029
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: good player? Like? Did you ever imagine that like that

1030
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: he would turn out to be what he turned out

1031
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 1: to be. Well, you can see it. You can see

1032
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: he had flash. You didn't. You didn't know he was

1033
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: gonna turn out to be the MJ that he is.

1034
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: But you can see that he had flas you know,

1035
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: had that type of swad towards games. Uh, you know

1036
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: because seeing him hitting that jump shot as a special

1037
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: year and then by meek when I got that my

1038
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: spreshman year, he was that was his last year because

1039
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: he left after that. M h and but him and

1040
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: Kenney Smith was in the back court. You know that

1041
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: was Kenny and Mike. You can see that that type

1042
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: of m Yeah, he got yeah, my he could be something,

1043
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: but you didn't think he would turn out to be

1044
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: what he is what he turned out to Benn there,

1045
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 1: but you can see he had a flayer to him though.

1046
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: And what was he like when when you guys got

1047
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: in the end, be like, what what was playing against

1048
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's You guys are both young, you're in your prime.

1049
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: What what was what was that like? If twenty years

1050
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: from now, forty years from now, your grand can say,

1051
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: what was that? Like? What do you tell him? Oh,

1052
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: playing against Michael Johan in college was you know? First,

1053
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: you know you have to say that, you know, the

1054
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: athleticism that he had. I was a guy the kid

1055
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: could fly. You've never seen nobody hanging the air as

1056
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: long as he did the way he did and had

1057
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: that flap. But the guy that became the Michael Jordan

1058
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: of the NBA, I mean it was breathtaking. It was

1059
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: must see every time he stepped on the floor. Um,

1060
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: you know him had he had that type of pregnance

1061
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: where it was it was right, man, you ain't no

1062
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: way you're gonna miss were he about to do, because

1063
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 1: if you get out your seat, you know then somebody

1064
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: like man, you just you can't believe what you just saw.

1065
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: That's the type of man. That's the type of question

1066
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: and the type of impact he had on the game,

1067
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: and he had on the fans back then, because you know,

1068
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: you got au sixis skinny kids that fly in the

1069
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: air and hanging in the air and out there with

1070
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: a little swag on him. You know that was exciting.

1071
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: All right Now, Muggs, before I let you go, I

1072
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta ask you about Space Jam. You were

1073
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: part of the Villainous Monstars team. How much fun did

1074
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: you guys haven making that movie? And what do you

1075
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: remember about about that? I mean that movie like it

1076
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: completely uh last the test of time. Uh. And I'm

1077
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 1: sure your kids and your grandkids, every everybody gets a

1078
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: kick out of space Him. How much fun did you

1079
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: guys have making that movie? What do you remember about

1080
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: about the film? Into that? Man? So much fun. We

1081
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: had a black on that thing out there for two weeks.

1082
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: I man, it was amazing, you know, doing the not

1083
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: on the set, you know, working with of course with

1084
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: Patrick and Sean and Michael and and and LJ. Ben

1085
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: in the trailers, you know, doing our things playing because laughing,

1086
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: Uh LJ. I remember we've had that we were about

1087
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: to be and we had seen that morning and LJ

1088
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: was supposed to uh he wanted to get a hair

1089
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: cut and he was looking for, you know, someone kind

1090
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: of give him a little thrill him up. He had

1091
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: a little funnything going back then and he had he

1092
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: had his little waves yea with a little part in

1093
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: the middle years with the goal. So the one of

1094
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: the guys on the set like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1095
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: I have to cut you and I have to give

1096
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: you a cut, like man, you show you, show you

1097
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: I got Yeah, man, I'll get saying just like it is.

1098
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: They'll just I tied it up, just kind of make

1099
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: a shop, you know. Uh man. He gave l a

1100
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: bowl cut cut the taped it on the sty and

1101
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: had a little bit it looked like a bowl, a

1102
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: little little munstard. Well when all man, we could not

1103
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: shoot that whole morning. I ain't shoot, ain't I ain't

1104
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: shooting your shoot on like that with the way for

1105
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 1: the guy new Ball has to come in and tighten

1106
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: the out back. Uh are you? You and LJ are

1107
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: still friends? Man? When I met you, I saw you

1108
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: at the garden with Larry Johnson. I swear you guys

1109
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: should do a TV show or something because you guys

1110
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: look like you could tell you guys if you have

1111
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: a history together and you guys look like you have

1112
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: a good time with each other. Oh, that's my man

1113
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: there through the day. That's then my cat man. He

1114
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: he represents everything I did. I just he came down.

1115
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: I had a for my fund raising. He came down

1116
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: for me and uh and took part of it. And

1117
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: I know my guys now I just had one with

1118
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: those though. Just came in and looked out for that.

1119
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: Out of fundraisers for my foundation last week, he came

1120
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: in and looked out. So I mean, my dad man.

1121
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: You know, that's the that's the relationship to bond that

1122
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: we're able to you know, the build throughout. You know

1123
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: even and you know Oaktree, you know the old play

1124
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: the Oaktree played with each other and uh out in Toronto.

1125
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: So you know me, you know from old to the

1126
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: dance cards and the tea Knights, you know, and my

1127
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: day Charles Smith. You know, I had a little a

1128
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: little short stay in New York when I came, you know,

1129
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: and because men Stock he played the Golden State together. Yeah.

1130
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: What what is your foundation, Muggs? My foundation is always believed.

1131
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: You can go always hype them, believe dot org and

1132
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: check it out. UM have scholarship program after school program

1133
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: for my kids. Uh that we have last three years

1134
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: and had over a hundred forty kids come through my program.

1135
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: But this year I decided to kind of change it

1136
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 1: a little bit where I took ten kids to where

1137
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna problem from the sophomore to the senior year,

1138
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: and after that senior year, each and everyone I have

1139
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: all the ship to go towards the education. That's dope. Man.

1140
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: All right, Muggs, listen, I appreciate the time. I would

1141
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: love for you to come back. There's so much more

1142
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: I could talk to about, like the NBA today, And

1143
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: like I said, man, you're you're one of a kind. Man,

1144
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: you were one of a kind, and I have so

1145
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: much respect for what you did. And you know, it

1146
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: was just such a pleasure and honor for you to

1147
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: come on the podcast. Man, appreciate your Bige is always good.

1148
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: Talking to your mind, keep telling your things. Keep doing it. Hey,

1149
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: if there's anything I could ever do for you, Muggs,

1150
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: you let me know. I'll come down there and talk

1151
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: to the kids and uh and whatever. Man, But I

1152
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on here and stay in touch with me,

1153
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: and I'll stay in touch with you. Mugs. Alright, cool?

1154
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: The beautiful audacity of Muggsy Bogus. Why the fuck is

1155
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: in Muggsy Bogues given daily TED Talks? Why is he

1156
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: not on the list of speakers at your motivational seminars?

1157
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: Why is Muggsy Bogues out the next Tony Robbins or

1158
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 1: Wayne Dyer or that whacked out new age mullet having

1159
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: bleached tooth weird old Joel Osten. I would listen to

1160
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: anything Muggsy Bogs has to say forever. Why because he's

1161
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: five foot fucking three and he played almost fifteen years

1162
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: in the NBA amongst the giants. Of course, you're gonna

1163
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: listen to Tony Robbins. He's eight feet tall with baseball

1164
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: glove hands and a head that looks like it was

1165
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: made on Halloween. And you're scared not to listen to him,

1166
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: And when he points out you use shoot yourself. Then

1167
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: cry quickly. But I want to hear what Muggsy Bogs

1168
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: has to say. Do you have any idea what kind

1169
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: of mindset someone like that has to have. This is

1170
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: someone who had five ft three, looked in the mirror

1171
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: his whole life, and saw himself as a beast. I

1172
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: can only imagine the conversations he was having in grade

1173
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: school as a kid when they tried to lock him

1174
01:00:50,720 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: into typical short status rolls. Tyrone, We're gonna have you

1175
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: playing a member of the Lollipop Guild for the Wizard

1176
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: of Oz on Friday. Isn't that great? Now? I'm playing

1177
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: the Lion. Oh, we don't have a lion suit for you. Yeah,

1178
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: I don't need a suit. I'm actually a motherfucking Lione.

1179
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: We don't need to curse, Tyrone. I just call me Muggsy. Okay, Well,

1180
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: the Lollipop Guild players are a fun roll. Muggsie. I

1181
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: don't know what the funk you're saying. Right now, I'm

1182
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: playing the Lion and afterwards I might eat a lollipop

1183
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: if I'm hungry. Okay, Well, we also have the role

1184
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: of Total Open the funk did you say? In our version?

1185
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: Total has lines? In my version, I eat dogs, I'm

1186
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: the lion, or I'm gonna burn the play down. Someone's

1187
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: gonna get detention if they keep up this attitude. All good.

1188
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: I love the tension. It's where I do my push

1189
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: ups in my box jumps and daydream about playing pro basketball.

1190
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: You want me to notify your parents, young man, go ahead.

1191
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: They know I'm a lion. They tell me every day

1192
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: You're a lion and a beast. I don't understand. I

1193
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: figured you wouldn't. Now win of rehearsals, I'm gonna go

1194
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: work on my roar. I met Muggsy Bogues at the

1195
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: next game in two thousand fifteen. I introduced myself to him,

1196
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: and I said these exact words, Yo, Muggsy, I know

1197
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: you are a motherfucker. You are a bad motherfucker because

1198
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: what you did in the league, My man is no joke.

1199
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: And when I was next to him, I could feel

1200
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: the man's presence. And even though I had more than

1201
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: fifty pounds and about a foot and height on him,

1202
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: I guarantee you Muggsy Bogus could whoop my ass. He

1203
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: was giving up some sort of luke cage meet shaft

1204
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: type of vibe, like if I said the wrong thing,

1205
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: he would whip around and punch me in the thigh

1206
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: and funck my whole body up. Seriously, Muggsy Bogus needs

1207
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: to be on a mental toughness speaking tour that lets

1208
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: you know with the right amount of funk what you heard.

1209
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: You can't tell me shit attitude, you could be anything

1210
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: you want. Muggsy Bogus is on some Bobby Fisher, Steve Jobs,

1211
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: Richard Branson, let's go to Mars for a picnic on

1212
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: a Thursday type of ship I mean, do you realize

1213
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: what kind of forward thinking imagination and true blue fuck

1214
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: the world? Don't ask me for ship mentality. You have

1215
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: to have to be five ft three, a hundred and

1216
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: thirty five and named Tyrone to play in the n

1217
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: b A. Muggsy didn't just defy logic, he defied physics.

1218
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: Give Muggsy a microphone in the speaking tour schedule and

1219
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: let me know where he's gonna be, because I want

1220
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: to hear everything he has to say. Who the hell

1221
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: knows what I'll do after listening to motivational Muggsy for

1222
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: an hour I might run right the funk out of

1223
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: the place from l A to New York because I

1224
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: think I can, and I know I can't. I might

1225
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: train only underhand and set shots in my driveway and

1226
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: try out for the NBA next year. Who the funk

1227
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: knows what I'll do? And why the funk isn't that

1228
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,439
Speaker 1: actor from Game of Thrones Peter Dinklach not talking about

1229
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: Muggsy Bogues and all of his interviews. They're like two

1230
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: inches apart in size and both killing it in their fields.

1231
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: One is slaying giants on a TV show and the

1232
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: other one slayed them in real life. A lot of

1233
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: people say that Michael Jordan should replace Jerry West as

1234
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: the NBA logo. Fuck that it should be Muggsy Bogues.

1235
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: Put Muggsy Bogues on the shirt, and I don't care

1236
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: if it's a life size iron on. He deserves it, Tyrone.

1237
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: Muggsy Bogues needs to be sharing his secrets with the

1238
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: world so Tony Robins can quit bullying everyone to be motivated.

1239
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: Muggsy's thoughts should be recorded and studied for future generations

1240
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: so people who are told that they don't have a

1241
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: shot can listen to him and then conquer their fears.

1242
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: There's racism, there's sexism, there's classism in this country, but

1243
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: Muggsy Bogues overcame Itty Biddy is um to become what

1244
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: I think is one of the greatest minds in professional

1245
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: sports history. All Right, I want to thank Muggsy Bogs

1246
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: for rocking me on the Iron Wrap Coorpstery On podcast.

1247
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much I appreciate it. Coming

1248
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: up next, the Champ. The Champ is here, the headliner

1249
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: from Rough and Rowdy to Sean Latham is rocking with

1250
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: us on the Iron Rap Coors Stereo podcast. Stay tuned,

1251
01:04:56,280 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: all right, This Friday, February sixteen, there's one event that

1252
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,439
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to, Rough and Rowdy, presented by bar

1253
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 1: Stool Sports. This is forty very amateur boxing matches starting

1254
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: at seven thirty pm Eastern. It will stream for four

1255
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: hours from West Virginia. Well worth the price of admission.

1256
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: Remember the thrill you got from a fight back when

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Speaker 1: you were a kid. Take that, Put it in front

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Speaker 1: of thousands of rednecks, thirsty for blood, and lace up

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Speaker 1: the gloves for the most unique production that you'll ever

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Speaker 1: see on the screen. All commentated by El Prez Dave

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01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: Portnoy in the main event, and I have a lot

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Speaker 1: at State for this, and I think Dean, you'll have

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01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: a lot to say about this too. In the main event,

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Speaker 1: hailing from Barstool's heartland, the twenty dollar chef himself, Sean Latham.

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01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: I was looking to make a name for himself by

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Speaker 1: taking on one of New York's bar stool guys hand

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Speaker 1: jobs Smitty, Oh hand job, Smitty fighting my guy, chef,

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Speaker 1: Sean Latham. Now, I'm gonna be honest. If you follow

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01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: my Twitter, you know we've talked about Smitty on this podcast.

1270
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: We talked about Smitty on the Fantasy Football Falls. I

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01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: want Showan Latham to knock this fucking guy out and

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01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen on Friday Night, plus forty other fights. Okay,

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01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking. Times are tough and you

1274
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: don't know if you could afford it. But the usual

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01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: ninety nine dollars that you spend for a boxing pay

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01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,959
Speaker 1: per view isn't what this is all about. We got

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Speaker 1: you covered. Rough and Rowdy two is available for only

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01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: nine nine nine. It's one tenth the price of some

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01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: of the biggest fights in the world, but ten times

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01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: and we're exciting. You do not want to miss this

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01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: trust me. Rough and Rowdy two. You do not want

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Speaker 1: to miss this. It's only nine nine, but order soon

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01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: because the day of price will be fifteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: All this is on Barstool Sports Rough and Rowdy to

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01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: Friday February. This Iron Rep for Stereo podcast will be

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01:06:53,720 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: right back all as promised. The liner of the main event,

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01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: Ruff and Rowdy to Sean Latham, he's with me on

1288
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: the Iron Rapp Reports Stereo Pockets. How you doing, Sean,

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01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm just here. I'm just got back home, just about

1290
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: the crash oot get up early to get another workout

1291
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: in like cardio. All right, let me ask you a question.

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01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: First of all, how did you wind up getting involved

1293
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: with this Rough and Rowdy fight? Because it's one thing

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01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: to like be like oh yeah, yeah, it's one thing

1295
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,919
Speaker 1: to even have a fight impromptu, but to actually be like, yeah,

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01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna box you in an event in front of

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01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: people with the adrenaline and the craziness and all the

1298
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 1: bar stool hype. How the fund did you wind up

1299
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: getting involved with this, this fight against hand job Smitty. Okay,

1300
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: so well, right when right when Barcelo bought Ruff and Rowdy,

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01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: I think Dave was at our office. Uh he was

1302
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: in he was at the Heartland office in Indianapolis. So

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01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: then he had said something about fighting, and I was like, dude,

1304
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: I'll fight in one of those you know, like I

1305
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: I've been training for like a year, you know for

1306
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: the most part, more more ju jitsu than boxing, but

1307
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: a lot of boxing, but just for your own personal stuff. Yeah, Well,

1308
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: because I headlined, I was headlined a comedy club here

1309
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: in Indy for a weekend at Morty's and Chris Little

1310
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 1: came out and um, I mean I've watched Little fight

1311
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: a ship load. I love that guy, and I mean

1312
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan. So when he was there, I

1313
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: was flattered and even showed up that he came out.

1314
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: And then I ended up talking about him on stage

1315
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: and then we drank afterwards, started drinking. We're getting hammered,

1316
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: and he was like, listen, all the pros train in

1317
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: the morning, Like you're you're gonna be a fucking fish

1318
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: out of water. But if you really want to start

1319
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: learning how to train and get in there and just

1320
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: put some real work in, you know, it's wide open you.

1321
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: I would love for you to come in. And I was,

1322
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 1: and I mean I've I've been a fucking eighties karate

1323
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: movies are my ship, bad damn movies. You know, Lion Heart,

1324
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: fucking uh, you know, Blood and Blood Out, blood Sport,

1325
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: Norris all that, yeah, all that ship. You know, fucking

1326
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: Bruce Lee, Ut of the Dragon. So I mean, as

1327
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: a kid, all I wanted to do is be a

1328
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: fucking ninja. But then you know, you get your your

1329
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: life starts playing out and I say, you know, you're

1330
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: you're thirty eight, You're like, it just never happened. So

1331
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 1: I was flattered. So I started going all the time.

1332
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't have had the discipline to keep going.

1333
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: But when Chris Lyttle's texting you what time you're gonna

1334
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: be there tomorrow morning, then you show up, what I'm

1335
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: gonna do, You're gonna gonna blow off a legend, And

1336
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: you know it's what I've always wanted to do. Anyways,

1337
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: So I kept going, and then I just really started

1338
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: getting into the like there's a lot of pain in it,

1339
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: but I got I don't have any discipline in my

1340
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: life for the last twenty years, so I've been living

1341
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: by myself South Seventeam, so you know, just doing your

1342
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: own thing, you know you don't have there's no discipline.

1343
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's outside of showing up to your job

1344
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: that you have to have. So you know that that

1345
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: that helped me a lot. And um it maybe like

1346
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: falls hungover, I still go in there and get my

1347
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: ass kicked. And it was like just like punishment for

1348
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: being a piece of ship, you know, getting ship can

1349
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday. And so before the before the rowdy fight.

1350
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 1: So you've been working out, you've been training. Have you

1351
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: been sparring like before you're even training for rough and rowdy? Yeah,

1352
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: I was getting my ask beat at that gym a lot.

1353
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: Um and sparring is a very mental it's very it's

1354
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: a big mental fuck because until you start sparring, the

1355
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: only time anybody thinks about fighting is when they're emotionally

1356
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: unstable and somebody pisces them off, right, so you only

1357
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: fight with sheer, anger and fucking Then you're just That's

1358
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: why everybody's just flailing arms on internet videos because it's

1359
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: all emotional, you know, and you're just reacting out of

1360
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,799
Speaker 1: anger or whatever. So when I start fighting these dudes

1361
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: and sparring, you know in uh in the gym, but

1362
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: there is no like we don't have a problem here.

1363
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 1: This isn't there isn't nothing, There's no emotions behind it.

1364
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: That's why I know I'm gonna beat the funk out

1365
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: of Smitty. It's not even because this guy is so

1366
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,799
Speaker 1: like he's an emotional fucking roller coaster in that office

1367
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,759
Speaker 1: every day. See, I don't know that much. I really

1368
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: know Smitty mostly for him Twitter and like we've only

1369
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: come across each other two times. But but I just

1370
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: don't like how he acts on Twitter. He acts like

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01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,799
Speaker 1: a fucking like. I think he's I think he's totally

1372
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 1: full of ship. And I'm not just saying that to

1373
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: say that. I think he's totally full of ship. And

1374
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: We've talked about this on my podcast and I talked

1375
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: about it on Barstool. But I just think he's totally

1376
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: full of shit. I don't even know what the funk

1377
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: he does at barstool, Like, I don't know what his

1378
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: thing is. So when I found out, first of all,

1379
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: I saw it as I saw you and McAfee hitting

1380
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: the bag and and then you guys said, oh, rough

1381
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: rounded two, this is early, you're fighting Smitty. I was like,

1382
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: I funk with Sean Lathan. I funk with the twenty

1383
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: dollar chef. I'm in his fucking corner, which, by the way, huge,

1384
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: huge fucking lift for me. Big fan of your ship, bro,

1385
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, and like we obviously we worked for both

1386
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,759
Speaker 1: work for Barstool and Out. You know, I was watching

1387
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: like your video you put out. I think it was

1388
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: like maybe max two weeks ago, when you were just like, listen,

1389
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: nobody's safe. I love that. That's saying so much because

1390
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: people like they think they're supposed to be rules when

1391
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: they start trying to troll, Oh yeah, funk that ship.

1392
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: They want to talk ship, and then they get mad

1393
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: when you talk about you know, their kids and their

1394
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: dogs and their wives and their avatar pictures. You could

1395
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: look me up and find Yeah, it's ridiculous, all right,

1396
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:10,560
Speaker 1: but this is about you shown, so go ahead. So

1397
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: first of all, how I've never met you? How big

1398
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: are you? Um? Well, I was when I when I

1399
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,759
Speaker 1: was agreeing with this sounds about two thirty eight roughly

1400
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 1: because I was, you know, I'm drinking my ass off,

1401
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: eating like an asshole. But I'm six to two twenty

1402
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: right now. How big is smitty? Smitty is like six

1403
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: ft one or six ft two two fifteen I believe. Okay, okay,

1404
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 1: so it's a fair size matchup. Yes, yes, now he

1405
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: has less fatter on his stomach, but I've dropped about

1406
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 1: twenty pounds. So anyways, So Dave had randomly said if

1407
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: anybody would fight, and like five of us in the

1408
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: office happened to speak up. We're like, yeah, we'll fight that,

1409
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 1: you know. And then at the end of Rough and

1410
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: Rowdy one, at the very end, Prez was just you know,

1411
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 1: talking about the fights. He goes to, don't forget the

1412
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: rough and roality two, Well we think we got the

1413
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: twenty dollar chef ready to go, Like he's only just

1414
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: threw it out there. So then I got a bunch

1415
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: of tweets. You know, oh ship, you're going you're gonna

1416
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 1: fight rough throughout it too. So I was like, well,

1417
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 1: I mean, I I volunteer, it's fucking go time, let's

1418
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: do it, you know. And then how did it wind

1419
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 1: up being Smitty? Well, they didn't know who wasn'tna fight

1420
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: at first, but I'm assuming they just sized us off

1421
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 1: accordingly because you know, his size, my size, weight and height. Roughly,

1422
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm before this, like I found out was Smitty a

1423
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: few times. He's been a good you know, he's been

1424
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 1: a cool dude to me. Like this isn't personal. I mean,

1425
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 1: I don't like a lot of the things of being said,

1426
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: But I mean I'm also putting in the fact that

1427
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, he's just going off because we're in it.

1428
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: We're about to fight. So that's what I'm doing. Like,

1429
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 1: you know, if you agree to fight me and there's

1430
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars in the line, I don't care that

1431
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 1: you're a nice guy, oh that don't have a real

1432
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: problem with you. I'm gonna fucking I'm beating your ass

1433
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 1: because on the other side of it, it's ten tho

1434
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 1: dollars and it has the agitation that has stirred up

1435
01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: in the last few days has has a fueled to

1436
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: because you just said, like, you know, when you're fighting fighting,

1437
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, and as you know this, Um, and anybody

1438
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 1: who's a fan of sports knows that you can't be emotional.

1439
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: Are you confident that you won't be emotional when you

1440
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: actually get in the ring? Friday, February sixteen, four rough

1441
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 1: and round he too, Yes, Um, you know, like French Snake,

1442
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: I've been sparring a lot, I think. I mean, I

1443
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: I was getting sucked up this last few weeks by

1444
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 1: some guys that I have. You know, they were going

1445
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 1: pretty hard on me, busting my ship up my nose.

1446
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: Then I'm just coming back to normal right now. And

1447
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: I just know that I've spart enough to know how

1448
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: to be into the I can be in the pocket comfortably.

1449
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: I got you, I got you, I understand, and I'm

1450
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: not gonna be emotional, and my adrenaline is not gonna

1451
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,839
Speaker 1: be fucking peeking my muscles, and I'm gonna be breathing correctly.

1452
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: He's gonna be fucking barely knowing how to breathe. He's

1453
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: gonna be all adrenaline out. He's gonna be fucking gas

1454
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: the first round. I don't give a ship. If he

1455
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: looks like he played college football, and I look for

1456
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 1: college football. He's filled the Pocono's College Football Division three.

1457
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 1: So what he's got good genetics, he doesn't need. He

1458
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: probably eats salads every fucking day. Fun the fucking football

1459
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: from what what college football? What's college did played football?

1460
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: But that was just claim to fame. You know, let's wait,

1461
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: and where's those red pants all the time? But there's

1462
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: college football pants? But what college no showing what college

1463
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 1: did he play for? No clue. Come on, if you

1464
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: didn't play for Ohio State or a legitimate college, you

1465
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: might be able to talk that ship and the bar

1466
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 1: stool offices. But in the real world, nobody gives a

1467
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: funk that you played Division nine college football. No one cares. Yeah,

1468
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: and that's why I don't give a funk. Like I

1469
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'll fight him. Like I've been

1470
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: fucking sparling with this dude. It's like six ft nine,

1471
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: three pound lineman from Louisville three years starting old line.

1472
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: So you feel confident now, yeah, No, I feel confident.

1473
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm more confident because I've been working my ass off,

1474
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: like for the last six weeks hard his balls two

1475
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: times a day, Monday to Friday, and did sometimes we

1476
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 1: throw in a mid session a Sunday or something. So

1477
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 1: my coaches are badass, Like I got a real badass

1478
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 1: fighter coach. He's not. He hasn't fought in UFC or anything,

1479
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: but he was working his way up to he hurt

1480
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: his shoulder. I went to one of his fights. I mean,

1481
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 1: he's a real great coach. He's been fighting for eight years.

1482
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: I got some guys don't you know, and we're in

1483
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 1: they're they're just teaching me some things that are gonna

1484
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: help me. But more importantly, he knows exactly how to

1485
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 1: train someone about to fight. They know about the you know,

1486
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: how your arms gonna get tired, chest like keeping your

1487
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: arms up, getting gassed, working proper cardio, you know. And

1488
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: he's also as a strength coach at Ohio State and

1489
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 1: per Due, so he knows the ship, you know. So

1490
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 1: you feel confident, you feel ready to go. Yeah, I'm

1491
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: really ready to go. I think that this dude's in

1492
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: over his head but obviously has to say and do

1493
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 1: whatever he has to say and do, you know, leading

1494
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 1: up to the fight. But I mean he's gonna get

1495
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: fucked up, like as soon. I mean, he's gonna be gassed.

1496
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in there just sucking. He has no

1497
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: idea how to CounterPunch. He's gonna be fighting emotionally. This

1498
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: guy he is in nineteen fights, like even the right

1499
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: before the fight. What does he do he gets in

1500
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: a fight with you, Like, Okay, the super Bowl is over,

1501
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: Dick Gates finally calmed down. You've got three days to

1502
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: fucking rough and rowdy. What you're about to fight me,

1503
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: which you shouldn't be taking lightly right, not to listen

1504
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 1: against a real fighter. I'm like a third grader. Okay,

1505
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,440
Speaker 1: I'm not fighting Chris Little. I'm not even fighting professional

1506
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: fighters that are just up and coming. You're fighting You're

1507
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: fighting hand You don't explain it. You're fighting a guy

1508
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: whose name is hand job smitty. Yeah. And I just

1509
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: want I just want to make it clear that if

1510
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: anybody's listening, that might actually be a fighter that does

1511
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: us for a living. Don't think that I think that

1512
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 1: I can step into an octagon or a ring with you.

1513
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm just saying on a competent level of playing field

1514
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 1: with no real fight experience outside of sparring, you know,

1515
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: and some training in a fucking small jim in Indianapolis. Now,

1516
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: if and when you knocked this funk out, now my model,

1517
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 1: my personal motto when life showing. I don't know if

1518
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 1: you're familiar with this. The great Michelle Obama, she said,

1519
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 1: when they go low, I go high, or when they

1520
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: go low, we go high. Me personally, when they go low,

1521
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 1: I go lower. So if and when you knock this

1522
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: fuck out, are you gonna talk shit after do? Or

1523
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: you can't predict how you'll be you're just looking forward

1524
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: to running through him and then you'll figure it out

1525
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: later because you know me, I'm the king of trash talk.

1526
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you go hard on and nobody's safe and

1527
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 1: I know that. Um Now, personally, I don't know, Like

1528
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's not like we have super

1529
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: bad blood, you know, like I you know, I don't

1530
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: like the way he went at you, like the way

1531
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: he was going hard, Like what are you doing? Like

1532
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? I don't know what all

1533
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: the situations of all the ship that was going back

1534
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: and forth, but I didn't. I definitely didn't like it,

1535
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: and it really fucking earthed me. And then it just

1536
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: and it also pissed me off that like, dude, you've

1537
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 1: made it past the Super Bowl blah blah blah, he's

1538
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: on the dick gate. You got other websites fucking cut

1539
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 1: right and hit pieces over because you're fucking taking a

1540
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 1: fucking stand over a blurry shower pick. Now, I'm trying

1541
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: to focus on this fight. I want people to be

1542
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 1: watching it. And what do you do? You go and

1543
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: start another fight, an irrelevant battle that has nothing to

1544
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: do with the task at hand, Right, He's not got

1545
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: me going a little bit because I'm like, you're taking

1546
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 1: me lightly. Now, I feel like, ah ah, well, you

1547
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: know what, listen, I'm gonna continue eating this funck on, okay,

1548
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: and when it continue to fucking rattle the fucking cage.

1549
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: If I wasn't in Los Angeles covering the All Star Game,

1550
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: I would be in West Virginia. I'd walk you into

1551
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 1: that fucking ring and I would be like Justin Bieber Young,

1552
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber when he walked in Floyd Mayweather. I'd even

1553
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 1: wear the bangs, the Justin Bieber bangs. That's how hyped

1554
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 1: I am about this. Okay, So just no Friday night,

1555
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the edge of my fucking seat watching

1556
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,759
Speaker 1: it at home on pay per view. I can't wait,

1557
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 1: you know, And I mean I'm pumping your my corner

1558
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: and fucking means a lot, big fan of all the ship.

1559
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: You know just what you do right now, little one,

1560
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: what you've done, dude, taking me lightly, And that's the

1561
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 1: only thing really kissed me off. And I'm coming out

1562
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: hard and I'm coming out relaxed and just ready to

1563
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: funk him up, like it's it's you can go now,

1564
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: you can get back to fighting all these other battles

1565
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: that you've got going on. You don't have to worry

1566
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 1: about this one no more. And then I'm gonna fucking

1567
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: be booking my church at Dominican Republic with my little

1568
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: sucking boo boo. Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's what the

1569
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: funk I'm talking about. Now, now let me ask you,

1570
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: is this true. At one point in your life you

1571
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 1: were a prison guard or you worked in a prison. Yeah,

1572
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: when I was eighteen, I got out of high school

1573
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 1: in you, Arizona. I'm from Los Angeles, but from fifteen

1574
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: years old five I lived in Arizona. And then right

1575
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,600
Speaker 1: before I turned bright before nineteen, and my TOI, my

1576
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 1: friends are going to apply for you know the human

1577
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 1: County Sheriff's office. Is that the corrections officer in the

1578
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: county jail. So I was like, well, I mean, I

1579
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: ain't got really going on, and so this musical I

1580
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: went on, and then I happened to just fucking smoke

1581
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: everybody in the mile and a half like day one

1582
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 1: try out, and then I did well. The tests are

1583
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: just like basic high school information. Start off, you know,

1584
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 1: you don't you know they don't you don't need a

1585
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 1: fucking bachelor's degree to get a job there. Um, and

1586
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: then I just ended up. I got the job and

1587
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: and then I worked there for the two years. So

1588
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 1: what is that like? I mean, what was the craziest

1589
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 1: thing that you experienced while having this job? You know?

1590
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: There are you know, you do getting some fights here

1591
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 1: and there. Um, I only got into the second one

1592
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 1: was probably the crazier one. It was that crazy as

1593
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 1: doing on. He was waiting trial, but he had life prisons,

1594
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 1: like he was going to jail for life, just a

1595
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 1: lifetime gangster. I think he had killed somebody or something.

1596
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 1: Had The reason I love this story is because the

1597
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: dude had this tattoo in the middle of his face,

1598
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 1: right just like a fucking square between his eyes. And

1599
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: dude was scary. He was. So he was a very

1600
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 1: quiet but very intimidating. So he was in my unit.

1601
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 1: You know, you come in there. Um, you know, my

1602
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: shift starts at six am. I show up, I link

1603
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: up with the fucking night guy and we do rounds

1604
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: to make sure everybody's nobody's dead in the unit, and

1605
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: then he forms me if any notes on anybody, if

1606
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: anybody sucked around there. You know, there's any issues with

1607
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: any of the prisoners. And then um, we go by

1608
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 1: this guy and me and that dude with the tattoo.

1609
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: We got along well, like we were cool, like I

1610
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: was there for the paycheck and I was trying to

1611
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: be a highway patrol. This was the first step. But

1612
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: then this other dude had getting arguments with him. And

1613
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:56,600
Speaker 1: this is a unit where you can't even open the

1614
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 1: door yourself. You have to do a hand signal, and

1615
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: a guy from a boy stuff that watches over the

1616
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: unit opens it. Right. So the guy was on s

1617
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes suicide watch, which means every fifteen minutes you

1618
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 1: gotta go look at his unit and and right down

1619
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 1: what he's doing. And then he you'd only have a

1620
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: blanket from like ten at night to six in the

1621
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: morning because they don't want to hang himself and ship

1622
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: so during the day. So the guy was like giving

1623
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 1: a blanket, and then the fucking prisoner was just like, nah, man,

1624
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: go fund yourself. I don't like you gonna dick for weeks.

1625
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 1: So then the guy starts hotheading him, and then and

1626
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: the and and the prisoner looks at him and goes,

1627
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: if you fucking open this door, I'm flying out of

1628
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: here and choking your bitch ass out until someone hits

1629
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 1: me to held with a baton. This guy goes, we'll see,

1630
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 1: and he gives the signal to open the door, and

1631
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm looking like, don't open the door, like I'll get

1632
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: the blanket. Later opens the door. This guy held his

1633
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 1: word flat, just grabs this dude by the neck. You know, like,

1634
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: now this is only one thing and this doesn't mean

1635
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,600
Speaker 1: ship now, right, But at that time, it was a

1636
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: fucking shipload, Like this guy at work was getting choked

1637
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 1: out by this jangster ass murderer and then and then

1638
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 1: you know, I got to get in there pull them off.

1639
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's like just things like that that happened

1640
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 1: every once in a while because it's charny jail, like

1641
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 1: it's not federal. Holy you guys haven't gone to court

1642
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: system yet. I mean, I know it was a long

1643
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: time agoing and I know you're not glorifying at all

1644
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 1: when this kind of thing is going on. If you

1645
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 1: can remember, are you like what the fund is going on?

1646
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: Are you like just trying to like restrain them? Like

1647
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: how did it end? My adrenaline? Oh was out of control?

1648
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 1: That was definitely I was only nineteen or eighteen years old.

1649
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: I was fucking dread. I mean, this guy is getting

1650
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: choked out, and then then you know, all got academy

1651
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 1: stuff you learn where you're like chokeholds and fucking wrist locked,

1652
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 1: and I was well, definitely overwhelmed. Luckily, I grabbed the

1653
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: dude and my adrenals going like crazy. You know, I

1654
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 1: called for back up if I'm sucking up me and

1655
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 1: on his back, and I had a good you know,

1656
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: I had a good size advantage of the guy, probably

1657
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:47,719
Speaker 1: in the late one sixty and I was two twenty

1658
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: at the time, and you know, I'm handcuffing them. I

1659
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: actually handcuffed my leg underneath his fucking when I was

1660
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: just trying to get them, you know, the adrenaline rushing

1661
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 1: fighting around, and then like five other officers come filing

1662
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:02,839
Speaker 1: in there. You know. Um, then that guy now obviously

1663
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 1: he can't fucking I mean, it doesn't matter to him,

1664
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: and he wasn't gonna get more time. He's already looking

1665
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: at life. It's just gonna run concurrent, damn. So I

1666
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: mean there was a few times where, you know what,

1667
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 1: guys got a little unruly yet, but do for the

1668
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 1: most part, it was just chill. It was a bunch

1669
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: of dumb motherfucker's that were in jail for some dumb

1670
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 1: shit that just asked you questions like you're their attorney.

1671
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: Like you know a lot of people are talking about

1672
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: that's a glorified babysitter job. I mean, at the end

1673
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: of the day, it is. You're just making sure these

1674
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 1: dudes don't die on on City Watch or whatever, and

1675
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 1: they you know, you gotta fucking give them their food

1676
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 1: and just make sure that they don't funk with each other,

1677
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 1: you know, Like there's different units, there's open units where

1678
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 1: the low level offenders are in there. They're not They

1679
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,560
Speaker 1: would never fight each other because that was just quadruple

1680
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 1: what they're what they're in there for as it is

1681
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: because it's county, you know. But I got fired UM

1682
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: right before I turned twenty one. I was about to

1683
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,719
Speaker 1: go to highly Patrol. I got accepted to UM for

1684
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: for Arizona Department of DPS, Department of Public Safety or whatever.

1685
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: I forgot there. It's it was on an eye of patrol.

1686
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 1: And right before I left to go to the academy,

1687
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 1: I got a d uy coming over Mexico because I

1688
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: was getting lit back then pretty because Mexico was right

1689
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: like a five minute drive from where we went to

1690
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 1: high school. So we're going to bars from sixteen all

1691
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 1: the way up, no problem. So that was that's where

1692
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 1: everything changed. I moved up, I moved to Phoenix, got

1693
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 1: a job at Alive Gardens. I got a job at

1694
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 1: the Improv with a year later, and then I started

1695
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:29,560
Speaker 1: doing stand up. Oh shit, okay, cool, that's crazy. And

1696
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: you're the twenty dollar chef, right, So so when we

1697
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 1: finally meet you, you'll cook me up something really fucking nice,

1698
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 1: really proper. Dude. Yeah, we can also film a episode

1699
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: together that'll be funny. Done, done, done, that's done. We'll

1700
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: do a full episode and I will out eat anybody

1701
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: on in your previous episodes. I will. I will stuff

1702
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: my face. You can make whatever you want. Don't try

1703
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 1: to like burn me with spices or anything like that.

1704
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 1: Make me whatever you want. I will stuff my face,

1705
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 1: double fist whatever you put in front of me. Dude. Hey,

1706
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: that's great news. We'll make some good at as soon

1707
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 1: as this ship is over and I can relax on

1708
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 1: the diet and go back to cheating a lot more.

1709
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 1: Um because you know, I don't. I'm just trying to

1710
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 1: do as best I can for this fucking fight. Like

1711
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 1: I'm you know, you gotta take this ship serious. A

1712
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: hundred thousand of people watching, I mean, that's more than

1713
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: possibly the rumble of the fucking jungle, like this is

1714
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 1: if you put it in perspective, like I'm I'm way

1715
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: at a line and both of us are on, like

1716
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 1: we're there's so many other fighters that obviously no, they're no,

1717
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: they're not the position of our job and our company.

1718
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 1: But guys who've been training, you know, so I had

1719
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: to take this serious. This is a big fun this

1720
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: is a big deal, um, you know, to myself, I

1721
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,560
Speaker 1: think it's a big deal for the company, you know,

1722
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 1: and it's a big deal that they let me even

1723
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 1: do it, that they want me to that I'm getting

1724
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,919
Speaker 1: to do it. So I'm taking this as serious as possible.

1725
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: You know, Pat's has been in my corner. He's there

1726
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: every single second I'm there working out. He's working out,

1727
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 1: you know, like he's just the most supportive dude in

1728
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 1: the world right now. And meanwhile, like you know, over there,

1729
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: Smitty's over there fucking trying, you know, starting the war

1730
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 1: with the company, Like That's why I love, like, say

1731
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 1: what you want, but I would wait rather have the support,

1732
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: like I'm about being creative and then and there being

1733
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 1: a supports like we don't have to you know, it's

1734
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: a different culture in our office. Like I respect what's

1735
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 1: going on here, but New York and I think it's

1736
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: fucking They're pumping out some beautiful ship, but just the like,

1737
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: the vibe is so different. It's so much more in

1738
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: each other's you know, throats, and obviously there's eighty people

1739
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: in a third of the building. We got like this

1740
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: monster building with thirteen of us or you know, so

1741
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: it's not everybody on top of each other. So like, yes,

1742
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: you don't you know, you don't get that going at

1743
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: each other, Like that's why Smitty's fight nineteen people right now. Yeah, Well,

1744
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: as soon as I hang up with this, okay, I'm

1745
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: gonna instigate some more ship. Keep them up all night,

1746
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: keep them up. This is just me because I can't

1747
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 1: stand this funk. I'm gonna keep them up all night

1748
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I hope you have this little balloon not leaking.

1749
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: Friday night, February sixteenth, rough from Rowdy to Yo Sewan.

1750
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: Listen in all sincerity. I wish you all the luck.

1751
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: I'll be watching, I'll be cheering, You'll be hearing from

1752
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: me on Twitter post fight, uh and talking ship for you.

1753
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 1: And I can't wait to get my twenty dollar meal

1754
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 1: from the twenty dollars shift dude looking forward to man,

1755
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I'm gonna fucking him up, I remember.

1756
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 1: Just know that all the punches all got some of

1757
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 1: your name on it, A little bit of fucking revenge

1758
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: for all that ship talking he's doing, all that disrespect.

1759
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: Just know I'm gonna land a few of those fucking

1760
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 1: definitely got yourr name on him. Fuck yes, Sean, good luck,

1761
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: and I'll be talking to you after the fight, my man.

1762
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 1: All right, brother, having me absolutely man, I'll talk to

1763
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 1: you soon, all right later, all right. I am gonna

1764
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: be watching it on the edge of my seat. If

1765
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: I could go to West Virginia, if I wasn't in

1766
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 1: Los Angeles covering the All Star Game, I would be

1767
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 1: there to walk my man Sean Latham into the fucking

1768
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: ring to hopefully not the fucking dogs, not out of

1769
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 1: barstool Smitty. That's all his name is barstool Smitty, who

1770
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 1: claims he's from Philadelphia who's probably from the Poconos. Rough

1771
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 1: and Rowdy to you do not want to miss this.

1772
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: It's only nine, but order soon because the day of

1773
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: price will be fifteen nine. All this is on Barstool Sports,

1774
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 1: Rough and Rowdy to Friday, February six. I literally, truly, seriously,

1775
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: I can't wait for it. I'm excited, but real quick?

1776
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: Can a shooter shoot? Can a stick man stick? You've

1777
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 1: told me you've had some um, some escapade with some

1778
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: ladies lately. I have to say, I think the last

1779
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 1: timer was on here. I told you I was on

1780
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 1: a dry spell, and I and I keep it very

1781
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 1: real for the listeners. When I'm on a dry spell

1782
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 1: and nothing's popping off, I got nothing to say. Right,

1783
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: you're not lying on your dick. Yeah, I'm not lying

1784
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 1: on my dick. I'm not lying on my dick. Or

1785
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm not lying about my dick. You're not lying on

1786
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 1: your dick. You're right, I'm not lying on my dick. Right,

1787
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm you don't lye on your dick. I don't lie

1788
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 1: on my dick. Fucking English, right, right? You know I

1789
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 1: don't like to keep it real. You don't lying on

1790
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:50,560
Speaker 1: your dick. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, I

1791
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: keep it real. I don't lie on my dick. Um.

1792
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 1: So no, I would never lie on my dick and um,

1793
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 1: but I do have to say, lying on your dick?

1794
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: Is this not cool? If you're lying on your dick,

1795
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: it's I don't know. It sounds like you lie on

1796
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: your dick a lot. Man. I don't know anything about

1797
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: that iron lying on my dick. I think you might

1798
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 1: be lying today, but it's been I will say it

1799
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 1: has been a fantastic year so far for me. Uh,

1800
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 1: and a fantastic in particular a couple of weeks, I've

1801
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 1: really been putting myself out there a lot. I don't

1802
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 1: know if you're like a grinder beast right now, I

1803
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 1: I really get down on grinder hard. Wait wait wait

1804
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 1: wait wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. I think you meant I'm

1805
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 1: like a grinder like yo, I'm like hustling like I'm

1806
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm putting myself out there. Are grinder? Already told you

1807
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't coming back here. Stood up to me. M

1808
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,600
Speaker 1: Dean Colline just stood up like that. I got up

1809
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 1: out of my chair and I said, if you pull

1810
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 1: this grinder ship on me again, I'm not fucking with

1811
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: your podcast anymore. I came here. You know I'm not

1812
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: on fucking Grinder. You're trying to press my fucking buttons.

1813
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:52,560
Speaker 1: You want me to go get a fucking jar of

1814
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 1: Ben and Jerry's out right now, one of your face.

1815
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fash it right now. Okay, So you don't

1816
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 1: use the app Grinder? You know you know that I

1817
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 1: don't use that told we've already run through this. Sorry, okay, sorry,

1818
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know disrespect the grinder? Did? Grinder sounds similar?

1819
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 1: Not at all. No disrespect the Grinder, but I'm not

1820
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 1: on it. Um and so anyway, Yeah, Tinder has been good,

1821
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:24,639
Speaker 1: But no, I have to say lately it hasn't even

1822
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 1: been with Tinder. It's been with people that I've previously

1823
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 1: known in college or that I've been friends with. It

1824
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: hasn't been a lot of like meeting randoms lately. But

1825
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 1: I did have a very good weekend this past weekend. Um,

1826
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 1: what what happened? Uh? What happened? I went out on

1827
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 1: Friday night. I saw a girl that I had previously.

1828
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: What do you mean you could say I went out

1829
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 1: the other night? Oh? I see. People don't need to know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,

1830
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 1: we don't know when the weekend, but listening to this Friday,

1831
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 1: keeping evergreen, keep it ever from bro Okay, Okay, so yes,

1832
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 1: I'll keep that evergreen. Met up with a girl the

1833
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 1: other night. It was great, Um, had a great night.

1834
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 1: Had you known this girl? Yes, I've known her from college?

1835
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 1: I did? I have known her? Um, have you been

1836
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 1: with her? Had relations before? Okay? And and everything was great? Yeah, everything,

1837
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 1: It was a good night. There's nothing right, what are

1838
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:29,640
Speaker 1: you sneezing or you Oh that's pimping, like it's like

1839
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 1: a sneeze and oh god, bless you, bless you again? Like, um,

1840
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 1: so that was great. Nothing to write home about with

1841
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 1: that one. But yeah, came years ago, right, Um, for

1842
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: who cares, We're not fact checking whatever. So then the

1843
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 1: next night, you know, I was destroyed that night with

1844
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 1: my Milagro tequila. I shout out Milagro. I I'm still

1845
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 1: rocking on Milagro. It's still my number one tequila choice.

1846
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: Milagro Tequila silver Edition blue bottle is on that blue

1847
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 1: change my fucking way of drinking a man. So, so

1848
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 1: the other night, you met up with this girl, who

1849
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 1: you had had relationship with, but you hadn't hooked up

1850
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: with her recently. No, not, it's been a while. So

1851
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,719
Speaker 1: we picked up it was my man. It was great.

1852
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 1: Then the next night okay, okay, so oh this is

1853
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: not even the story. No, this isn't just that was

1854
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,600
Speaker 1: what it was. Okay, I'm not going to dive into it.

1855
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: It was another escapade, the escapade, and you're not even

1856
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 1: going into the other escapade. And going into that other

1857
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 1: escapade is the third. So the story that you came

1858
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 1: that you begged me to be on the Iron wrapp

1859
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 1: with Stereo podcast, that does not happen. You haven't even

1860
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 1: told that yet. No, And there was a girl before

1861
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 1: that one that I've had. I've been seeing a little

1862
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:43,719
Speaker 1: bit having some man. We don't try to hear about

1863
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 1: all the fing the birds and the bees and oh

1864
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 1: there's this girl and like, oh we had a nice

1865
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 1: trying to hear about that that that that freak all

1866
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 1: trying to hear about like you, like I don't want

1867
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 1: to hear about all the other ship trying to hear

1868
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 1: about that freak call. Okay, okay. So the next day

1869
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 1: after that freak off, which was a successful freak off.

1870
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:06,720
Speaker 1: The next day, I was pretty hungover, but I was

1871
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 1: ready to go for round two. Um and my friends

1872
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 1: were having a birthday party at this place called Clifton's

1873
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: downtown l A. Details. What can I say, I'm trying

1874
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 1: to paint the fucking pain. Okay, Okay, I can't say

1875
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 1: where I went. Ok Okay, Let's give you some fucking

1876
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 1: concept in Cliftons. What's Cliftons? Like? All right, thank you?

1877
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 1: So Clifton's is like a five story joint out in

1878
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 1: downtown l A. It's got a tree in the middle

1879
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 1: of this fucking thing. It's like, and you can wear

1880
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 1: snazzy ships. So they say dress form a, dress formal.

1881
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 1: You can't wear tennis shoes, you can't wear sandals, you

1882
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 1: can't wear t shirts. You dressed nice. So me and

1883
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:45,719
Speaker 1: my my my best friend Daniel, I mean, stop giving

1884
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 1: your people. I'm not getting them this kind with Daniel.

1885
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 1: But you don't have to try to sneak a shout

1886
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 1: out for your man in the Poet's like, oh my

1887
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 1: best friend, let gives a funk about you got your

1888
01:34:56,240 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 1: second This is fucking irritability. Okay, So I'll just say

1889
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 1: some random guy me more suits, you could say, my homeboy, Daniel,

1890
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:08,639
Speaker 1: my guy just did my best friend, Daniel, did you meet?

1891
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 1: When did you meet? Fifteen years ago? When nobody gives

1892
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 1: a funk about it all, just asked me, funk this

1893
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 1: ship man just fucking going a rye already. Me and Daniel,

1894
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 1: we we decided we were going to wear our suits. Okay,

1895
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 1: we didn't give a ship. Yeah, I was booted. Go

1896
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,719
Speaker 1: to this place called Clifton's Downtown. Okay, me and my friend,

1897
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: We're in our suits. Were suited and booted. We're ready

1898
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 1: to take on the night. It's five story plays. It's

1899
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 1: one of the coolest spots in l A. Supposedly, I've

1900
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: never been there. It's got a tree in the middle

1901
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 1: of the place. Looks like fucking Pirates of the Caribbean.

1902
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:44,679
Speaker 1: We go there, I'm there for a friend's birthday. Before

1903
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 1: I get there, I decided I wanted to hit up

1904
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:49,679
Speaker 1: this girl that I've never hooked up with. I've only

1905
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 1: seen her around college. I never actually hung out with

1906
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 1: her before, but we follow each other on Instagram. I

1907
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 1: know her um the middle to the motherfucking gist of it.

1908
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 1: Go ahead, all right, you you never hooked up before

1909
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 1: this college. Fucking We never hooked up and never even

1910
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 1: hung out with her. We were following each other and

1911
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 1: I slid into her d m once and I said, yo,

1912
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:15,640
Speaker 1: here's my number. We should we should hang out. But

1913
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 1: I saw that she was following me. She said, all right, great,

1914
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm down. So I texted her this weekend. I said, hey,

1915
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 1: I'm going to this thing, Cliff come out with I said,

1916
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 1: come with me, I'm suited and booted. She said, I'm

1917
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 1: already gonna be downtown. It's perfect. I'll meet you after

1918
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 1: my little pregame thing downtown. We'll have a night. I said, great.

1919
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: So she texts me when I'm there. Okay, she she's

1920
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 1: texting me. She goes, I'm done with my thing. I said, yo,

1921
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 1: I just got here. She said, all right, I'm on

1922
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 1: my way. I said, are you coming by yourself? For

1923
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 1: you with a friend? She said, I'm by myself and

1924
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm waiting in line. This line is crazy, and say,

1925
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 1: oh fun, let me go help you. She goes, oh no,

1926
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 1: it's moving, it's moving. She gets in. I see her,

1927
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 1: she's looking great. She looks great. Okay, let's call her

1928
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 1: Roxy Roxy Okay like that, I'm just gonna call her Roxy.

1929
01:36:55,840 --> 01:37:00,720
Speaker 1: So Roxy's looking fucking great. Okay, she comes in. I'm

1930
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 1: already on one. She comes in and she's on one too.

1931
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 1: When you mean on, what does that mean? Like I'm

1932
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 1: like feeling my my my drink. Yeah, I was like

1933
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 1: fucking with me and yeah we were we were on one. Uh,

1934
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 1: I was what does that mean? I'm not on fucking

1935
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 1: booger sugars. So to get down to it, the girl

1936
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 1: comes in and I said, yo, I got you a drink.

1937
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 1: She goes, I'm not drinking that. I'm drinking vodka. And

1938
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 1: I said, okay, we'll just you know, have some tequila.

1939
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 1: We go, I get her a drink. Now there's something

1940
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 1: kind of already funky about this girl. I don't know

1941
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 1: what it is, but my friends like, yo, that girl

1942
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:34,640
Speaker 1: was like on some ship. I don't know what she's on,

1943
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 1: but she's coming in hot. And I was like, I

1944
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 1: feel you, I feel you, but I'm like fucked up,

1945
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 1: so I'm not really noticing it. But they're like chicks

1946
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 1: on something. Okay, I don't know what, but she's on

1947
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 1: something your thing, like on something, like she's on something.

1948
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 1: She's like on like she's like acting cookie like like freaky.

1949
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 1: So anyway, fast forward, all right, fast forward, I'll cut

1950
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 1: all the details. I know you like to keep it

1951
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 1: fucking short here, I like it, like, so, so, what

1952
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 1: was happening in the spot? So the spot was dope.

1953
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 1: It was fucking hot, So I wasn't really on my

1954
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 1: game because it was getting hot in there and you're suing.

1955
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 1: It was uncomfortable, and I'm just talking. We're talking blah

1956
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. Then I'm at the bar okay,

1957
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 1: and Daniel is standing there and he looks at both

1958
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 1: of us and he says, we're just talking. He goes,

1959
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, you really haven't made a movie. What the

1960
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 1: folk is wrong with you? I said, no, no, no,

1961
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 1: we're just talking. So he turns he's fucked up, and

1962
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 1: he says, yo, why don't you guys just fucking make

1963
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 1: out already? He goes, I dare you to fucking make

1964
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 1: out right now? That's why he always tried it does Yeah,

1965
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 1: he always tries to like wing me a little, but

1966
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 1: at this moment, I was not feeling that. And she goes, no,

1967
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 1: she she straight up was like no, I'm not doing that.

1968
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, all right, And I was like.

1969
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 1: I turned to Daniel after that, I was like, YO,

1970
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 1: let's go. I'm done with this ship. I'm not playing Mr.

1971
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: Fucking nice guy. I didn't. I'm not here holding fucking

1972
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 1: hands and hanging out. I'm not trying to make new

1973
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 1: friends like I invited you out here. We're both getting

1974
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 1: fucking freaky. It's past midnight. So I said, that's fine.

1975
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 1: So I turned to her and I said, YO, we're

1976
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 1: gonna go. We're leaving. She goes, I'm gonna leave too.

1977
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 1: I said, all right, that's that's she's She's texting me

1978
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:07,679
Speaker 1: where are you. I'm downstairs. I'm leaving to I said,

1979
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:10,560
Speaker 1: all right, I'm leaving. So we go outside, okay, And

1980
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 1: this is when I'm just like at the peak of

1981
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 1: my fucking like drunkenness whatever. She I don't really, I'm

1982
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 1: retracing my steps. We get outside and I see her.

1983
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 1: We start walking down the sidewalk. She's kind of pushing

1984
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 1: me a little bit, like like up on like the

1985
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:26,639
Speaker 1: fucking uh wall, like hey, like you know, blah blah blah,

1986
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like She's basically like, listen, I just want

1987
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 1: to tell you, like you sliding into my d M

1988
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 1: s and your little suave ship and all the ship

1989
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 1: that you're acting with me right now, Like I don't know,

1990
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 1: I was drunk, I was like doing whatever. I was

1991
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 1: just like fucking around, like trying to play, you know,

1992
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 1: play the game a little bit. And she's like she's like,

1993
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 1: she keeps pushing me against the wall and she's like,

1994
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 1: that suave ship ain't gonna work with me. And she

1995
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 1: really caught me out of my element because no one's

1996
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 1: really like, no girls really like sassed me up like that.

1997
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:00,040
Speaker 1: So she's like, she's like pushing me up a in

1998
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 1: the wall and she goes, that's suave new York ship.

1999
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 1: That ain't gonna work for me. And I'm like, new

2000
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 1: York ship, what are you talking about. She's like, yeah,

2001
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 1: that New York ship that's not gonna work with me.

2002
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm not even from New York.

2003
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm from sucking the Palisades' I'm not talking from Los Angeles.

2004
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 1: I'm not from New York. She goes, and then she

2005
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: starts talking in a Brooklyn accent. The rest of the night,

2006
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what the funk was going on. So

2007
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 1: she goes, listen, I'm gonna make out with you, I'm

2008
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 1: gonna you can kiss me, blah blah blah. I'm like,

2009
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:27,599
Speaker 1: I'm good. I kept saying I'm good, and she goes,

2010
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:29,680
Speaker 1: you're so stupid, You're so dumb, and she kept saying that.

2011
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 1: I said you better stop saying that, like I really

2012
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 1: didn't like that. And I was like, stop saying that,

2013
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm just teasing you blah blah blah.

2014
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 1: And I'm like all right. She's like really going at it,

2015
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 1: and I go I go all right, and she's like,

2016
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 1: you know you can hook we can hook up a

2017
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 1: little bit, but that's it. And does that mean hook

2018
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 1: up a little It's like, she's like, you can we

2019
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 1: can kiss like she goes, I'm gonna, I'm gonna make

2020
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 1: out with you and this I'm like, I was like,

2021
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 1: you're not doing me any favors. It's all good. So

2022
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm like playing that like whatever. So then Daniel comes

2023
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: out we're ready to go, and he's got a girl

2024
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 1: waiting for him at this place called Umbrella Company in

2025
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 1: l A and he goes, yo, I gotta go my girl.

2026
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 1: She's waiting umbrellas. They don't make umbrellas, just called umbrella Company.

2027
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put it down that road. But I'm

2028
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 1: not going down that road. He's gonna take a girl

2029
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 1: to a place called the Umbrella Company. What do they

2030
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:14,720
Speaker 1: do there? No idea? They make fucking drinks? Is I'm

2031
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 1: Melroses fashion, they llas. They don't sell umbrellas. They sell

2032
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:22,839
Speaker 1: drinks as a bar. Okay, I don't even think there's umbrellas.

2033
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 1: There's not one umbrella there. It doesn't matter beside the

2034
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 1: all right as. She just keep going. Only bad question

2035
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:31,920
Speaker 1: is one you don't ask, all right respect. Uh So,

2036
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 1: so he goes, we're going, I'm going to Umbrella Company.

2037
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 1: I told her I'm going to umbrella Company too. She goes,

2038
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come with you, and I was like, all right, fine,

2039
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 1: let's go. So I'm trying to play it like I

2040
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:41,640
Speaker 1: don't give a funk. At this point, we get in

2041
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 1: the car. We're getting the Uber US three. We're making

2042
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 1: out at this point like we're hooking up in the

2043
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 1: car like all that ship. And while I'm in there

2044
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 1: by thank you and bless you. And while I'm in

2045
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 1: the car, the Uber driver notices recognizes me and he says,

2046
01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 1: you're Dean, and I said yeah, and he goes Dean

2047
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 1: all Ins. I said, yeah, what's up, and he goes, yo,

2048
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:05,599
Speaker 1: young shooter, I'm a fan. I listened to the podcast.

2049
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 1: That's what the fun. No, No, I'm dead serious, that's

2050
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. They're all funked up, so I

2051
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 1: don't even think they knew about it. But he's hearing me,

2052
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 1: Like with the girl work, he's probably listening to this episode,

2053
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:17,559
Speaker 1: like Yo, I was the guy. Hope, I hope shout

2054
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:19,479
Speaker 1: out because he was a homie. I like this. He

2055
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 1: knew what I was dealing with because the girl was wacky. Okay,

2056
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 1: girls wacky in a good way. So we're going going

2057
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 1: going umbrella company. Okay, I'm wrapping this up. Get to

2058
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,719
Speaker 1: the crib, man, bro I'm not at I can't fast forward.

2059
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 1: Should happen. So we're an umbrella company and then we

2060
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 1: take a shot there. We get there, we meet Daniel's girl,

2061
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 1: she's there, we all take a shot together. Now we're

2062
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,680
Speaker 1: really all fucked up. And then they they're going, you know,

2063
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 1: we're going back to the crib, and I said, I'm

2064
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 1: going back to my crib too. You should come meet

2065
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,719
Speaker 1: my cat Pablo. That's my little secret weapon. A little

2066
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 1: bit I got this cused, can you tell girls to

2067
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 1: come to your crib by meeting your fucking cat. It's

2068
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: it's worked like all the time, pretty much. And they're like,

2069
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 1: if they like the cat, they're they're down. They know

2070
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 1: they've seen the count of my thing. So she goes,

2071
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 1: is that why you got that? Love that cat? Pablos

2072
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 1: the ship anyway? So she goes, how far is your place?

2073
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 1: I said, it's it's it's around the corner by by you,

2074
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 1: all right, She said, listen, I'll come over. I'll see

2075
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 1: the spot. We could kiss a little bit. This is

2076
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 1: what she's got, giving me the low doubt. We could

2077
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:21,680
Speaker 1: kiss a little bit. She give me a little plan.

2078
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:23,639
Speaker 1: She goes, but I ain't playing any of that hanky

2079
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 1: panky ship with you. And I'm like, what do you mean.

2080
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 1: She's like, I am playing that hanky panky. She goes,

2081
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna suck you this and that. We can

2082
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:31,880
Speaker 1: hook up a little bit, then I'm going home. That's it,

2083
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:33,640
Speaker 1: I said, let's go. We get in the car. I

2084
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 1: take her to my spot, showing my cat. She loves

2085
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,639
Speaker 1: the cat. She says, I want to finish the rest

2086
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 1: of this patron bottle that I had in my freezer.

2087
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 1: And then after we're done with that, I want to

2088
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 1: take a shower, and then I gotta go home and

2089
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 1: hold up. She she thinks she's running the entire when

2090
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 1: you're not taking this in a fucking hotel. She's saying, bro,

2091
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 1: so so we killed so she's killing the patron. We're

2092
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: hooking up in my kitchen. Daniel and his girl they

2093
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 1: decide they're going upstairs now. They're going to get there. Yes,

2094
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 1: bless you, bless you. Uh, they're going to do their deed.

2095
01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:11,000
Speaker 1: So they leave us down there. We're hooking up. We're

2096
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 1: hooking up. I'm pulling around my couch doing my thing.

2097
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 1: You know this, and that we kill the bottle. She goes,

2098
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 1: all right, and I said, let's go upstairs. Go upstairs.

2099
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 1: Pop that Spacelight on. I got a Spacelight impel, the

2100
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 1: all encompassing, game changing Spacelight. And it's not any Spacelight.

2101
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:31,600
Speaker 1: So don't even bother looking on Google to find some

2102
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 1: random ship. This is this is a fucking collector's edition. Okay,

2103
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 1: this is like, it's a one of a kind Spacelight. Alright,

2104
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:40,799
Speaker 1: pop the galaxy on. The thing she's fucking mind is blown.

2105
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 1: She loves it. She goes, oh, can you put some music?

2106
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:44,920
Speaker 1: And I said, I'm already on it, already got the music,

2107
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 1: play some of my music, play like your music or

2108
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 1: she she actually asked me if if she's like, can

2109
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 1: you please play some of your music? And I was like,

2110
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm not playing my music. Pacific de band, yes, and

2111
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:58,799
Speaker 1: I didn't. It's just specific but yes, it's not Pacific

2112
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 1: the band. No, it's just for Instagram. It's at Pacific

2113
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 1: the Band, but the band is just called Pacific the Band.

2114
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 1: It's just Pacific alright. Anyway, she gets in there, I'm

2115
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 1: starting to play music, all right, this and that. She goes,

2116
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 1: all right now and we're hooking up in there. Everything's great,

2117
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 1: and then she goes, all, I want to take a shower.

2118
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 1: Show me the shower. I said, all right, I'll show

2119
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:19,680
Speaker 1: the shower, turn on the shower for her. Are you

2120
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:23,640
Speaker 1: but asked At this point, I'm not. She gets in

2121
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:26,479
Speaker 1: the shower, I'm like thinking, holy funk, I cannot believe

2122
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 1: this ship happened. I can't even believe this should happened.

2123
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 1: So before she gets in the shower, though, okay, she

2124
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 1: opens up my desk and she starts putting these fucking

2125
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 1: lines of whatever my desk, and I'm like, I don't

2126
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 1: even think it was booger, like like it wasn't cocaine.

2127
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 1: But she's like, she's like, I was like, yo, what

2128
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 1: is that? And she's like, hold the funk up, you

2129
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 1: you kid, just throw that. I mean, she starts putting,

2130
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 1: shotting down like two lines a fucking Zanex. She's chopping,

2131
01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 1: chopping it up the pettico whatever xanex, like she said, putting.

2132
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've never even seen someone snorting Zanex. She

2133
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 1: starts snorting fucking zane xanex okay, And I'm like and

2134
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 1: she's like, come on, just do a little bit. And

2135
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm good. I'm good. She goes, oh, this

2136
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 1: one's just so little. Just do a little bit. I'm

2137
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 1: really I'm good. She goes, oh, just a little bit. Up,

2138
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 1: I'm good. Let me show you the shower. So she

2139
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:22,560
Speaker 1: does her thing. Damn, I take her. I'm like, you

2140
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 1: having a night night. She does the Zanex. Now, I've

2141
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:31,639
Speaker 1: never snorted any drink. I've never done any drunks. I've

2142
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 1: never done shita does She start acting nuts right away?

2143
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 1: I does. I don't chills you. So that must have

2144
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:41,560
Speaker 1: been what she was doing when she was existed. She

2145
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 1: was already hopped up on that. Is it the X?

2146
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:48,560
Speaker 1: It's not, it's it's with an X, but ex she

2147
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 1: was on that, but she was on that xan X Yes,

2148
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 1: So anyway, forget the Zanex's crazy. It was wacky. So

2149
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 1: then I turned the shower on. She's butt naked. Okay.

2150
01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,639
Speaker 1: She gets in the shower, it's fucking steaming in there.

2151
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm in my sweat, I changed for my suit. I'm

2152
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:04,479
Speaker 1: in my sweats and I'm in my white T shirt.

2153
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 1: And she goes, she goes, come in here, and I'm like,

2154
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 1: you want me to come in there? And she goes, yeah.

2155
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of a shy guy. Okay, I think

2156
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 1: the only time I've ever gotten in a shower with

2157
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:17,880
Speaker 1: a girl is with my ex girlfriend years ago. Okay,

2158
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 1: I played that game years ago in the shower. Okay,

2159
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:24,840
Speaker 1: never ducky ship, not rubber ducky shipro just she's taking

2160
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 1: a shower. She wants me, and so I start getting

2161
01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 1: in with my sweats. Okay, I'm like, I'm not sucking

2162
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 1: around with the whole I'm stripping down. So I start

2163
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:33,120
Speaker 1: getting in. She goes, oh, and she's stripped down. I go,

2164
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:35,680
Speaker 1: all right, fuck it, let's go. You know, so I

2165
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 1: stripped down. You unfold the loaf. I unfold the loaf.

2166
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 1: Now I'm on my ship, by the way, Like I

2167
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 1: just want to say, like when I get that liquid courage,

2168
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:46,560
Speaker 1: like I'm good without it, but when I get that

2169
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 1: liquid courage, I'm I'm really on my krypton. I'm on

2170
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 1: that krypton. I'd be I'd be on that kryptonite. Yes,

2171
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:59,839
Speaker 1: so I I just I still know that that krypton.

2172
01:47:59,880 --> 01:48:01,840
Speaker 1: I funk with that kryptonite, and I start going on

2173
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:04,519
Speaker 1: autopilot like whatever is coming out, it's just like working.

2174
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:06,639
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to boast or anything. I'm just telling

2175
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 1: you the story of what happened. All right. So she

2176
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 1: gets in, I take my ship off. I get in,

2177
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 1: and I'm only gonna say this because this is what

2178
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 1: is the truth and what really happened. But she was

2179
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 1: very very impressed with what I was packing down with

2180
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 1: your pipe with my pipe. Yes, I'm not that crypto

2181
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 1: trying to exaggerate. I guess I was on that cry

2182
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 1: all right, bless you, so bless you. Let me give

2183
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 1: you some fucking tissues, bro. So so anyway, I'm in

2184
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 1: there and she's very impressed. Okay, I'll just say that

2185
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 1: it was great. I get in. It's fucking it's got

2186
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 1: to be close to four, Okay, So we're partying. I'm

2187
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:56,479
Speaker 1: in there with her. She's going, um, she's loving it.

2188
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 1: We're hooking up in the shower, this and that. I'm like, oh, man,

2189
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:01,639
Speaker 1: I can't believe this ship is happening. And she's still

2190
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 1: going about what I'm packing, and she's really impressive. She

2191
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:08,839
Speaker 1: she goes, this is me being so real with the podcast.

2192
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like she's like, I told you

2193
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:13,080
Speaker 1: I could fuck you, but like I want you to

2194
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 1: fuck me now. I don't want to get too crazy, Okay,

2195
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:20,479
Speaker 1: so let me just I'll just say parents, I'm sorry

2196
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 1: about that, if you want bug sorry. So she listen.

2197
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:26,800
Speaker 1: All I will tell you about the shower is she

2198
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 1: must have just off fifty shades of gray. She must

2199
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 1: know what was she doing, because did she smack your face? No?

2200
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 1: I was she called you a pig? No? Man, I

2201
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 1: don't know why you keep asking me about She didn't

2202
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 1: fucking say you little pig? You she was she was

2203
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:44,439
Speaker 1: nice but you know, aggressive, but you know, we're like,

2204
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm lifting her up in the shower, pressing against each other.

2205
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:50,400
Speaker 1: It was great. It was hot, it was steaming, it

2206
01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:53,600
Speaker 1: was great. Cut two after that, we start, you know,

2207
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm changing in my closet. Things are going on in

2208
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 1: the closet. Now the closet, I don't know. And then

2209
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 1: she's she keeps looking me, and she goes, she goes,

2210
01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 1: you keep looking away like you're maybe it's because you're drunk,

2211
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:04,760
Speaker 1: but you're looking away, and she's like, I want you

2212
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 1: to look at me, like in the eye. And I'm like,

2213
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 1: oh sh She keeps saying, She's like, look at me,

2214
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, funk, all right, not walwart hooked,

2215
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 1: like She's like the captain's on that time, looking at me,

2216
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 1: look at me. I'm the captain. Now, that's why you

2217
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:18,800
Speaker 1: in your closet, your closet, you can't even fit. It

2218
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 1: was changing, bro, and in the closet I was changing.

2219
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't like, you have a big gass walking I'm

2220
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:25,600
Speaker 1: not trying to dis I'm just saying like, oh, she

2221
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:27,639
Speaker 1: just followed me in the closet, man. And then things

2222
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 1: got kind of freaky in the closet, and then we

2223
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:32,720
Speaker 1: moved from the closet that freakiness to the bed and

2224
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 1: I got the music bumping, sir, she uh and and

2225
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:38,560
Speaker 1: and and you freaked off and we freaked off and

2226
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 1: the rest is history. Now, I like this is this

2227
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:44,679
Speaker 1: might be the best one you came with you because

2228
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 1: she was sniffing at X or does Z she it

2229
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:50,040
Speaker 1: was that X ship. I don't know, man, but but

2230
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 1: did you just have a question? What did you notice

2231
01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:55,519
Speaker 1: any change in her behavior from that stuff? Listen, listen,

2232
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm serious talking to a guy that was I was

2233
01:50:58,040 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 1: on one on that Malagro and that crypto Malagro patron.

2234
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 1: I had a shot at the ball. Listen, I wasn't

2235
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 1: following anybody. No, I'm not all right. We were both

2236
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 1: on the same page. The next day, um, the next day, okay,

2237
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 1: And this is how I'll wrap up the story. We

2238
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:18,759
Speaker 1: wrapped this motherfucker, all right. Here we go, she she leaves.

2239
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:22,600
Speaker 1: It's like eleven am, all right, and I go, you know,

2240
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:25,519
Speaker 1: I'm collecting my pieces with Daniel. We decide, yo, he

2241
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:27,880
Speaker 1: freaked off with his girl, I freaked off with my girl.

2242
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 1: We decided to go out for some grub. We eat

2243
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 1: some food. What do you collecting the pieces? I'm like, yo,

2244
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:34,559
Speaker 1: we need an I'm like, I had a wild funk.

2245
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 1: You don't know what. I don't know what's going on,

2246
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 1: but I remember this and I remember that, and I

2247
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 1: was like, what the funk? I couldn't believe I got

2248
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 1: this girl at my house. I couldn't believe I hooked

2249
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:44,680
Speaker 1: up with her. I sent her a text, come with me.

2250
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:47,679
Speaker 1: She goes, I'm down. That was it? Okay. The next

2251
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 1: day we go and he goes, yo, I don't have

2252
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:50,840
Speaker 1: any photos from last night. And I go, oh, ship,

2253
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:54,719
Speaker 1: let me check mine. I opened up my camera okay,

2254
01:51:55,400 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 1: and there's a photo of this girl Roxy and my cat,

2255
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:04,240
Speaker 1: and she's butt naked. She took a picture of her side,

2256
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:06,559
Speaker 1: took a photo. He asked me to take the photo,

2257
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 1: and I literally almost spit out my fucking drink when

2258
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:10,800
Speaker 1: I saw it. I was like, oh, he goes, you

2259
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 1: got any photos. I said, nope, I don't have any photos. So,

2260
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 1: and if you're fortunate enough to listen to this entire podcast,

2261
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 1: Dean will be posting this no on a special thing

2262
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:23,639
Speaker 1: to get more listeners. In this episode of the You'll

2263
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:26,559
Speaker 1: blew her face out and you will post that. Deleted

2264
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 1: that because everything is for the Iron Wrap reports. I

2265
01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 1: hear you, but I deleted that photo out of respect

2266
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:34,599
Speaker 1: for her. I I hit her up the next day

2267
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 1: and she was aware of the photo, and I told her,

2268
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 1: don't even worry. I deleted it, which I did. I'm

2269
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 1: not a fucking animal. And we had a nice time

2270
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,639
Speaker 1: and and and you know, I'm on the move. I'm

2271
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 1: still looking around for you know whatever. But I'm a

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Speaker 1: safe guy and I'm having fun and and I enjoy

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Speaker 1: being single right now. But that's it. That's it. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear your life. I don't want to.

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Speaker 1: You're getting into some other ship. Not really, sometimes I

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Speaker 1: don't want to. Somebody's trying to hear roll that want

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Speaker 1: to like a man, what I'm saying. Nobody's shying to

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Speaker 1: that other ship, like you told your part. And then

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Speaker 1: like it's like, that's it. People. Sometimes I used to

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Speaker 1: nobody wants to get into any of the motherfucking d

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Speaker 1: you close it out, all right, the Young Shooter. The

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Speaker 1: question is can a shoot or shoot? And the answer

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Speaker 1: today is absolutely positively yes, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Uh the Young Shooter. Dean comes where can they find

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Speaker 1: you on you? You could find me on Instagram, the

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Speaker 1: guy in the fucking videos with me? Man, you can

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Speaker 1: I at least like, can I get I just let

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Speaker 1: you do a modelogue like you've been fucking blasting talenty

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Speaker 1: and Hoggin does at least. But I can't even put

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Speaker 1: my Instagram out so people can't already deleted the photos.

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Speaker 1: But if you want to know the space light, if

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Speaker 1: you want to know what I'm rocking with the space Light,

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Speaker 1: if you want to know what I'm rocking with the alcohol,

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Speaker 1: feel free to slide into my d m s. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with it. You can find me at Dean

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Speaker 1: Collins on Instagram blessing you need a tissue. Talkabou proud

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Speaker 1: would be around, would be talkabound, would be talkative, crowd

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Speaker 1: would be a round, would be unbo