1 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: Welcome to Daily Variety, your daily dose of news and 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: analysis for entertainment industry insiders. It's Wednesday, August thirteenth, twenty 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: twenty five. I'm your host, Cynthia Littleton. I am co 4 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: editor in chief of Variety alongside Ramin Setuda. I'm in 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: La He's in New York, and Variety has reporters around 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: the world covering the business of entertainment. In today's episode, 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: we all unpacked this week's Variety cover story on Severance 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: star Tremmel Tillman with Variety Chief Awards Editor Clayton Davis. 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: Mark Malkin brings us a Just for Variety red carpet 10 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: segment on the Nobody Io premiere with some fun quips 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: from Bob Odenkirk and Sharon Stone. And then I'll offer 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: up another Variety slanguage lesson. This time we'll explore the 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: differences among our signature superlatives Baffo, Wammo and Soco. But 14 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: before we get to that, here are a few headlines 15 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: just in this morning that you need to know. AI 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: Giant Perplexity has made an unsolicited offer of thirty four 17 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: point five billion dollars for Google's Chrome browser business. That 18 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: is a big bet that the federal government's push to 19 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: break up parts of Google will continue. Writer director Park 20 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: chan Wu has responded to his expulsion from the Writer's 21 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: Guild of America. The guild says he violated strike rules 22 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three by working on the HBO Robert 23 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: Downey junior series The Sympathizer. I have never violated any rules, 24 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: Park chan Wu says in a statement. Good coverage on 25 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: all of this right now on Variety dot Com from 26 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: Variety's Gene mattis a licensing deal that is a sign 27 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: of the times. Disney has struck a pact with Webtoon 28 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: Entertainment to license major characters, including Spider Man, Captain America, 29 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: and Darth Vader, for use as webtunes. Those are online 30 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: graphic novels and a again, go to Variety dot com 31 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: if you want to learn all about them. And finally, 32 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: in news that is making my dreams come true, Darryl 33 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: Hall and John Oates have settled their legal dispute. The 34 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: longtime musical partners went at it publicly two years ago 35 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: over Hall's efforts to sell his half of their songwriting 36 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: catalog to Primary Wave. No word yet on where that 37 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: deal stands. All of these stories and so much more 38 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: can be found right now on Variety dot Com. Now 39 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: we turn to conversations with Variety journalists about news and 40 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: trends in show business. In this week's cover story segment, 41 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: Clayton Davis remembers everything about his very memorable time with 42 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: Severance star Tremmel Tillman. He's delivered us quite a portrait 43 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: of an actor on the CUSP. Clayton Davis, thanks for 44 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: coming on today. 45 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: Said deal a little Jimy, glad to be here. 46 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: Did you deliver us a cover story or what? Dear listeners, 47 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: Run to your newsstand, Run to Variety dot com because 48 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: Clayton Davis's profile of Tamel Trellman of Severance is not 49 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: to be missed. Drop everything, go read it. Clayton, reading 50 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: this story, I was moved from the very beginning. Tell 51 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: me where you met Trammel, what he was like in 52 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: the interview, Give me some set the scene for me. 53 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: I got to interview him back in my native state 54 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: of New York, and I just want to say, I 55 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: think the best of me comes out when I'm in 56 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: New York City. We filmed them at this place downtown 57 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: on a rooftop an interior inside saw him do like 58 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: four autpha changes. He was a natural in front of 59 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: the camera. Britt Lauer, his co star from Suffrance, compared 60 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: him to an orchestra in my piece. It's because she 61 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: can just do anything. He's probably one of the most 62 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: multi talented people I think I've met. He's a good 63 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: kind soul, and that's like hard sometimes to fine in 64 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: this business. Best job I have in the world is 65 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: being able to work a variety because you don't get 66 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: to meet very many Tremmellzillmans. 67 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: And the best part of the best job in the 68 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: world is when you can profile or do a key 69 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: story for somebody at an inflection point in their career, 70 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: and you can just be a little bit of a 71 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: rocket booster for somebody who's so talented. I've had that 72 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: pleasure many times. It's really meaningful. Let me ask you 73 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: about Tremmell's background. He burst onto the screen in Severance 74 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, but prior to that, he 75 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: didn't have a ton of experience in film and TV. 76 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: Correct in Hollywood years, he's one of the newer kids 77 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: on the block. It reminds me of when Danielle ted 78 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: Weiler burst onto the scene a few years ago with 79 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: Till We may have seen her a couple of times, 80 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 2: and Tremmell had a little bit of a like that 81 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: guy that we had seen around but you know, mostly unknown, 82 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: and he lands this role. When they wrote the of 83 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: Seth Milchik, it wasn't specifically black, it was pretty wide open. 84 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: And then when he got the audition call, then they 85 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: were asking for a black man. So by the time 86 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: it got to him, they had decided that it would 87 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: be a black person. And everyone that speaks about him 88 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: and looking at his come ups, you know, he was 89 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 2: born in Maryland, comes from a very big family, youngest 90 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: of six, you know, went to HBCU schools, very good student. 91 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 2: Then he graduated top of his class with his MFA 92 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: at University of Tennessee for his Black Persons with him 93 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: that acting program and was top of the class. The 94 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: guy just really exudes the passion for the business. He 95 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: cares about his craft, he wants to get better. And 96 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: when I loved so much about him, he doesn't quite 97 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: know how great he is yet, and that is one 98 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: of those endearing qualities. 99 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: Well, the Emmy No Nation is a big hint for 100 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: an actor to come out of nowhere, even in a 101 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: big show. There's a lot of competition in severance, but 102 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: he landed a nomination for Supporting Drama Actor, so well deserved. 103 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: You use the word interior earlier, and that is so perfect. 104 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: You get so inside of his psyche even with somebody 105 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: open in an interview. How did you get there? How 106 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: did you feel the comfort to write it with such 107 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: authority that you did? 108 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: Well? Thank you for that. Mostly I get this question 109 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 2: a lot from other journalists will say like, how do 110 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: you get these types of interviews from people? How to 111 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: get them to open up so much? And very early on, 112 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: I had made a decision that I was never going 113 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: to talk to a celebrity like a celebrity if you 114 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: look at them as people and they're just you know, 115 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: Tremmell from the block or Tremuel from the scene, you know, 116 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: and you really take out the celebrity, because I think 117 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: that's what celebrity quote unquote. They want to be looked 118 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: at as people and not as celebrities. So when I 119 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: was talking with Tremmel, I felt a great advantage of 120 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: writing about him because I felt like a lot of 121 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: people don't know a lot about him. They know him 122 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: as Milchik Reseverance. Best of all, they know they know 123 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: that he's an openly gay man. But and I didn't 124 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: want to, you know, make it about like, you know, 125 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: just his coming out story. But the way he tells 126 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: that story, he talks about the evolution of it, of 127 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: you know, what he was like as a child and 128 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: not even really realizing that and then coming to terms 129 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: of that as an adult, talking to his mother, who 130 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: was his best friend at first coming out as bisexual 131 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: and then later on as gay. Interview with someone who's 132 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: listening and getting to those moments and really honing in 133 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:48,559 Speaker 2: on what he is pulling from the way he would 134 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: look across the room and he would recall the moment. 135 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: There's a difference between getting personal and getting salacious talking 136 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: about a love life or who you're gating. That's you know, 137 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: tablet stuff. When someone is willing to be open like that, 138 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: you can catch those special moments that you can get 139 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: anywhere else. And maybe it's a lot of it because 140 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: we come from the state background. You know, I'm at 141 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: Port Gonna Black. He's a Black bank grow up on 142 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: the East Coast, from the East Coast, so even something 143 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: as like, what did you call your living room? Do 144 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: you call it the front room? That's a very big 145 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: thing in black culture, and he was like, I didn't 146 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: hear about front room until I got to college. Those 147 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: types of things really allow connection, and you should see 148 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: connection and the little things that finds our common ground. 149 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: Well, I think that this is a portrait of Tremel 150 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: Tillman that is going to stand for a very long time. 151 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: Two little bits that I loved. Clearly he comes from 152 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: a strong family because he talks about playing Uno. 153 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: I love Uno. 154 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: It's my go to It's my go to baby gift 155 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: because at some point everybody with a child should get 156 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: on the floor and play. 157 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: You know, But Cynthia, do you play with stacking rules? 158 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: That's a very important question. 159 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: Usually a traditionalist, occasionally we go a little crazy. Another tidbit. Again, 160 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: don't want to toil it entirely, but Tremmel made a 161 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: significant contribution to the incredible season two finale of Severance, 162 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: and I will let you read in the story what 163 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: that was, but it's a great little insight into how 164 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: that episode all came together. 165 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: He's definitely a gift to the show, but he's someone 166 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: to really watch in this business. It really reminds me 167 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: of Sterling K. Brown. I'm ready for it. 168 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: Clayton, thank you so much as ever for delivering a 169 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: great piece. 170 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 2: Thank you, boss. 171 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: Next up we have Mark Malkin with a just for 172 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: Variety red carpet segment. Mark dished with Bob Odenkirk and 173 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: Sharon Stone on Monday at the Nobody Too. Premiere. 174 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: Thanks Cynthia. Bob Odenkark's latest vacation has taken a deadly turn, 175 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 3: a very deadly turn. The better call. Saul Star wars 176 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: on the Blue Carbon Monday night for the premiere of 177 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 3: Nobody Too, the sequel to his hit twenty twenty one 178 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: action comedy. He returns as secret assassin Hutch. This time around, 179 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: he's on vacation with his family at a water park 180 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: when he unexpectedly crosses paths with an evil bootlegger played 181 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 3: by Sharon Stone. Odenkirk told me he sent a note 182 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: to Stone asking her to sign on to play the 183 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: villain after they met for the first time at the 184 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: Golden Globes. 185 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 4: We needed a big villain, a big presence, a big personality. 186 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 4: I wondered if Sharon would be willing to be that 187 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 4: big as she said yes, and you could see what 188 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 4: she does. She owns the third act entirely. 189 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 3: Stone said her work was inspired by real world problems. 190 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 5: There's a lot of pent up feelings about a lot 191 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 5: of things that I put on the screen. Yeah. 192 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, so is therapeutic for you? 193 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 194 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 5: I'm not real happy with what comes out of social media, 195 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 5: and I wanted to portray that, the cruelty, the lack 196 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 5: of any sort of care or sense of responsibility, empathy. 197 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 5: There's no empathy, no empathy. 198 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 3: Nobody too is in theaters Friday, August fifteenth. Meanwhile, stoneaf 199 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: Surveel that she begins shooting Euphoria season three in just 200 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. What drew you to Euphoria? 201 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 5: I am a big, big fan. I'm a big fan 202 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 5: of all of the kids that are on that show, 203 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 5: past and present, and I feel they've hit something that's really, 204 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 5: really important. 205 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: It's tough for me to watch at the beginning. 206 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 5: It should be, but it's something that we do need 207 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 5: to see and understand and I think it's really important 208 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 5: and I'm grateful to be a part of it. 209 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: Now, let's take time out for a quick slanguage lesson. 210 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: Slanguage is varieties, zingy and zany slang words that we've 211 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: used for more than a century. Today, let's go through 212 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: some of our signature superlatives. Boffo spelled bo f fo 213 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: is the most resonant in culture. It means outstanding, boffo 214 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: b oh a film brought in great box office, but 215 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: we do have a scale. Boffo is good, but whamo 216 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: wha mmo is even better. It means sensational, off the charts, 217 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: beating all expectation, and then soco SoC ko means very good. 218 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: Here's a representative use of boffo from a story on 219 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: Sophie Tucker from nineteen forty three. When Sophie Tucker bows 220 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: out of the Copa Cobana ny nightery after six weeks 221 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: of baffo biz. She'll be followed by Jimmy Durany February 222 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: twenty fifth. And here's an example of Whammo from nineteen 223 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: forty nine. We wrote Inkspots Whammo in London, opening the 224 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: ink Spots open to smash Biz at the Palladium Monday. 225 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: Originally booked for three weeks, their advance was so big 226 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: that the engagement was extended another week even before they 227 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: opened Soco was the first of these terms to appear 228 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: in our pages in nineteen thirty one. Then came Whammo 229 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty six. Boffo followed in nineteen thirty eight. 230 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: Now you know the difference. Trust me when I say 231 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: at Variety we always strive for whammo in all that 232 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: we do. As we close out today's episode, here's a 233 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: few things we're watching for. Here's a panel of CEO 234 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: titans that's not to be missed. John Malone will sit 235 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: down with Barry Diller, Mike Freeze, and David Zaslov on 236 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: September fourth at the Pailey Center for Media, New York. 237 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: Malone is promoting his new memoir Born to Be Wired. 238 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: Also not to be missed on Briday dot Com is 239 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: my colleague Patzapristine's great story on the LA filming locations 240 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: used in Freakier Friday. Sadly, lensing a major feature in 241 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: LA is a real rarity these days. Before we go, 242 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: congrats to Kevin Costner. He will be honored with the 243 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 1: Eva Manley Award from the Location Manager's Guild International. The 244 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: Guild's annual gala is set for August twenty third in 245 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: Santa Monica. Thanks for listening. This episode was written and 246 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: reported by me Cynthia Lyttleton, with contributions from Clayton Davis 247 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: and Mark Malkin. It was edited by Aaron Greenwald. Stick's 248 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: Next hick Picks. 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