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We said this 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: at the half and it continued into half number two. 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: The offense just unable to get anything going throughout this 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: game quarters one through four. 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, another Giants home game. Another Giants poor performance on offense. 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 3: Three points today, average of two point two yards per play. 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 4: Wow, I mean. 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: It's tough to watch. Man and defensively you know, the 22 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: Giants in the first half, it looked like they were 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: holding up pretty strong minus two big plays, one that 24 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: you know was a touchdown play. The other one was 25 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: the fifty five yard run by Sakwan which eventually ended 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: up getting them into the end zone. But you know, 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: there's no EBB and flow in a game like this. 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: You know, it was just the flow of the Philadelphia 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 3: Eagles and straight domination. Jalen Hurts didn't have to do 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 3: too much. He only threw the ball fourteen times. It 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: only ten completions, but you know, efficient game by him. 32 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: The Giants got to him several times, especially in the 33 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: first half. But it's only so much a defense could 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: do for so long. It's only so much they can hold. 35 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: On and Bob, you mentioned it a bunch of times. 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: Just see coffity of mistakes by the offense. Still out 37 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: eight sacks, Daniel Jones isn't able to overcome it. Drops 38 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: by Darius and Waldo Robinson in key spots, penalties in 39 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: big spots, John Michael Schmid's down the field, the OPII 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: and the enzone that took a touh on off the board, 41 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: and then the inability to get any sort of consistent 42 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: run game, going to take pressure off that offensive line. 43 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: Put all of that together, that's how I wind up 44 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: with three points against the Eagles defense that frankly has 45 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: been a bottom third of the league defense for most 46 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: of this year. 47 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, that's the concerning part is the fact 48 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 5: that the Eagles were down a starting tackle like the 49 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 5: Giant score Now, Andrew Thomas is one of the best 50 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 5: left tackles in the NFL, but Jordan Mylotta is pretty 51 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 5: darn good. And then they lose McKay beck that in 52 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 5: the second quarter with a concussion, and the Eagles dominated, 53 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 5: dominated the line of scrimmage in this game on both 54 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 5: sides of the ball. And you know, guy, I think back, 55 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 5: you know, you think back about the Dallas game, you 56 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 5: think back about Cincinnati. You've just you destroyed your ability 57 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 5: to have a margin of error game where you know, 58 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 5: everything just kind of goes bad and everything just kind 59 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 5: of go wrong. And ah, they were outplayed, they were 60 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 5: out coached, they were out everything in this football game. 61 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 5: I mean, John, I know you keep notes during the game, 62 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 5: but I feel pretty confident in the seven sacks that 63 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 5: Jones took, five of them were he had no shot 64 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 5: like nobody was open. But more importantly, he wasn't even 65 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 5: able to scan the field because he was under constant pressure. 66 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 5: Two of them I thought were covered sacks, and then 67 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 5: Locke got blasted on his sack. 68 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, the offense didn't looked any better when Drew Locke 69 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 1: came into the game. 70 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 5: It was actually worse. 71 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: That's tonight's game breakdown, brought to you by our local 72 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: Ford stores. One engine drives his team for current offersers 73 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: at y four now dot com, Ford Official Truck of 74 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: the Giants Quick time out. We'll come back well from 75 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: Brian Dable from the podium after the giants twenty eight 76 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: to three defeat to the Eagles. 77 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 6: You were listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN 78 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 6: Giants Radio Network. 79 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: Back here on Giants Extra Point. 80 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: Giants fall to the Eagles in a blowout twenty eight 81 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: to three here at Metlive Stadium. They fall now to 82 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: two and five on the season, zero to three in 83 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: the division. The Eagles improved their record to four and two. 84 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: Joined by Jonathan Casius and Bob Papa. We talked about 85 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: the offense in our first segment there, let's talk about 86 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: the defense. JC They kind of kept the team in 87 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: the game in the first half. You look at some 88 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: of the underlying stats. The Eagles just one of thirteen 89 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: on third downs. You mentioned Jalen Hurts is ten of fourteen, 90 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteen yards. But when you get absolutely 91 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: annihilated in the run game, a lot of other stuff 92 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. 93 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: Two hundred and sixty nine. 94 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: Rushing yards for the Philadelphia Eagles in this game, and 95 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: it was a homecoming for Saquon Barkley. This was the 96 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: nightmare Giant fans wanted to avoid. One hundred and eighty 97 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: nine rushing yards. That was Saquon Barkley's career high for 98 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: the Giants. He got to one hundred and seventy six today, 99 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: thirteen short of his career high. And that's with that basically, 100 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: playing in the fourth quarter of this game. 101 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: Only seventeen carriage, he average almost eleven yards of care. 102 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 5: John, I'm gonna take issue with you. The Giants defense 103 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 5: did not keep them in this game for a half. 104 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 5: They kep him in this game for a quarter. 105 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: Fair enough, they fair enough, I'm not gonna get that. 106 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 5: And the second quarter, Saquon ripped off the fifty five 107 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 5: yard because Ojularry took an inside move and did not 108 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 5: have outside contained. They went for it on fourth and 109 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 5: three your forty one yard line. For some reason in Man, 110 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 5: they had Nick McCloud out on aj Brown as opposed 111 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 5: to Deontay Banks, who had followed him around a lot 112 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 5: in the first half, and Jalen Hurts and the Giants 113 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 5: brought pressure and Philadelphia picked it up, and Jalen Hurts said, 114 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 5: I'm going to that matchup seven days a week and 115 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 5: on a fourth and three from the forty one yard line, 116 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 5: they went for it on fourth and three and they 117 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 5: got a forty one yard touchdown out of it. So 118 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 5: the Giant defense is also complicit. They played a really 119 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 5: good first half first quarter, and the Giant defense and 120 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 5: did their job. To start the third quarter down fourteen 121 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 5: to three, they held fhilllf. You do a three and 122 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 5: out and you say, okay, good nothing. They got no 123 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 5: yardage on that drive. Stop the run, you got pressure, 124 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 5: boom force the punt. Giants get the ball back third 125 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 5: and three, Wandel with a drop. Game was over at 126 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 5: that point. Over. 127 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: At that point, it felt like, now we've talked about this. 128 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: The Giants rush defense, after our rough first couple of weeks, 129 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: had performed a lot better the last few weeks. But 130 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: now you look back at it, all right, Well, one 131 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: game was against the Browns, all right. The Cowboys are 132 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: the worst rushing team in the league. The Seahawks barely 133 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: attempted to run the ball against the Giants. They don't 134 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: want to run the ball. Last week, it didn't look 135 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: like the Cincinnati Bengals wanted to run the ball. 136 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: They want to throw at Joe Burrow. 137 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: So now you wonder you're going against the team JC 138 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: that was willing to commit to the run game a 139 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: little bit more. 140 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: And then everything fell apart. 141 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, Bob hit it right on the head. Look, 142 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 3: I want the defense and you you asked me what 143 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 3: was my keys coming into the second half, and I said, 144 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: the defense cannot allow no more points because the offense 145 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 3: is abysmal. I don't know what it's happening here at MetLife. 146 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 3: I said the same thing last week, and it's even 147 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 3: worse this week. Their minus four for than they were 148 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: last week, and last week was horrible. You know, the Giants, 149 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: I don't know how well we do know how losing 150 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: one of your best players on offense, and Andrew Thomas, 151 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: is definitely you know, a recipe before disaster. The Giants 152 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: cannot recover for them. 153 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: Hey, the Eagles, Jordan my Lotta was arguably, depending on 154 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: what metric you look at, was playing as well, if 155 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: not better than Andrew Thomas this year, and their backup 156 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: to him had given up eighteen pressures in seventy six 157 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: pass rush snaps and their offense seems to be that 158 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: adversely affected by it. 159 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: Well, they also gave up five sacks as. 160 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: Well, that's true too, so they were able to run 161 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: the ball. 162 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: So my thing is, and we talked about this last 163 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: week about Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow didn't look like Joe 164 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: Burrow at all times, but he still made some plays 165 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: at the end of the game to win the game. 166 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: You know, today the Giants had five sacks. That's a 167 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: good number of sacks for a defense any given week, 168 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: you know, But it still didn't affect the way that 169 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts pretty much played the entire game. 170 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 5: Well, and this breaking, once they got their run game going, 171 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 5: he didn't have to have to. They started. They they 172 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 5: came out and threw it a lot early, played into 173 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 5: the Giants' strength defensively correct, but. 174 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: When the EBB and flow of the game is not happening, 175 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: and it's fourteen zero and the Giants offense cannot move 176 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: the ball, and then the Philadelphia Eagles right out of half, 177 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: they had a good stop right then Bob. After that, 178 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: the Giants had to drop on third down and then 179 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: they punted the ball and then they had a nice 180 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: ten play drive where they started taking the air out 181 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: of the stadium. And you can feel it, you know, 182 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: the Giants Faithful, they were here until they started taking 183 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 3: the air out of the stadium, literally, play by play. 184 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 3: As the drives got longer, as the game got longer, 185 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 3: the Giants Faithful started leaving, and you can feel it 186 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: in the stadium. The Giants offense kind of sucks the 187 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 3: soul out of the team. And it's week in and 188 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: week out. It's hard to play defense when your offense 189 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: has given you nothing. And that's why I was asking 190 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: for the defense to do that, because I know how 191 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: hard it is to do that. It's almost impossible, but 192 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: that's what you need to do when your offense has 193 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: given you nothing. Two point two per play is insane. 194 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: That's insane. And you got the guy on the other 195 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 3: side that's outgained basically the entire team by himself, the 196 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: former Giants Sink one. Barkley. 197 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: Giants Football is brought to you by Verizon of the 198 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: official five G network of the New York Giants, Verizon 199 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: America's most reliable network. 200 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: Quick Break, We'll come back with Brian Dable at the podium. 201 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 6: After this, you're listening to Giants Extra Point on the 202 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 6: w fa N Giants Radio network. 203 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: Back here on Giants Extra Point, Brian Dable at the podium. 204 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 7: Just didn't make him, wasn't gonna take him out then, 205 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 7: just they'll go all the way around for not just 206 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 7: quarterback coaching, the everything just wasn't good enough. 207 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 8: Games in the pass where you've got I'll explored by 208 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 8: a lot, and I'll go on football games in the 209 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 8: past where you've been lofside, and I'll score lots of wifes. 210 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 9: Today made you think. 211 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 7: It was it was one hundred yards, So I was 212 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 7: trying to create some type of juice and uh, maybe 213 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 7: make a few plays and you know, swing the momentum. 214 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 4: A little bit. But that didn't happen. Do you think 215 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 4: is wrong with. 216 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 9: The offense right now? 217 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: Obviously if you said one hundred and nineteen yards, yeah, 218 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 2: a game. Yeah, it's not. 219 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 7: Good enough all the way around, Jordan, Is there anything. 220 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 10: That you look at and say, this area is we meet? 221 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 7: Well, the two areas that you know we continue to 222 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 7: work on, actually three over and over again, our third down, 223 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 7: red zone and explosive place and another game where you know, 224 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 7: I don't know what our longest play was. It couldn't 225 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 7: been too long, fourteen yards. I don't know what it was, 226 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 7: but it's hard to generate points when you're you know, 227 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 7: longest play is fourteen yards or your longest play last 228 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 7: week is fifteen yards. So you can do that one 229 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 7: of two ways, catch and run things like that, or 230 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 7: push the ball down the field and you know, give 231 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 7: our guys some chances, or go up and make some plays. 232 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 7: We're continuing to work on that. Those are two areas 233 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 7: that you know, we put a lot of time and 234 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 7: effort in and you know, we're not getting the results. 235 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 7: It's not equaling the work and the effort that we're 236 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 7: putting into it. So you know, those are two areas. 237 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 5: Brian. 238 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 10: You mentioned earlier in the week when Andrew was out 239 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 10: that we can't replace him. Yeah, you know, but we 240 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 10: have to obviously had to replace her how how upsetting 241 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 10: was it to you that the offensive line played so poorly? 242 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 10: I mean, I know he's not there. 243 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 7: But yeah, I'd like to go back and look at it, Paul, 244 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 7: and really evaluate. You know, we try to do some 245 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 7: different things that we haven't done. Namely, we jammed you 246 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 7: know a fair amount, particularly those throwing situations. Try to 247 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 7: give some presents to the edge on the left side. 248 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 7: But to sit up here and give you an evaluation 249 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 7: of it all right now, that that would be unfair. 250 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 7: Why not change the why not change the old line 251 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 7: in the mid games before you bench the quarterback? Yeah, 252 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 7: I mean, look the quarterback it was. It was twenty 253 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 7: eight to three. I gave you the reason why I 254 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 7: did it. Look, there were some things that again I 255 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 7: don't want to get into the evaluation process. Pat We'll 256 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 7: go back and we'll take a look at it generally. 257 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 8: First, you have any issues with effort today. 258 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 7: No, I'm gonna go back and watch it. All these 259 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 7: guys have been have been busting it. You know again, 260 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 7: when the score is what it is, make no excuses. 261 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 7: None of it was you know where it needs to be. 262 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 8: Specifically, Deonta on the hurt scramble seemed like he did not. 263 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll go back, we'll take a look at all 264 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 7: that stuff, Dan, and whatever we need to address, we'll address. 265 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 7: But you guys are putting effort into it, you know, 266 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 7: each and every week we're just you know, unfortunately not 267 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 7: getting the results. 268 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 5: And it's a results business. 269 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 8: That wasn't something you thought you need to address in 270 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 8: the moment. 271 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, look, I'm not going to get into the the 272 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 7: sideline of the coaching part of it, but you know, look, 273 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 7: none of it was good enough today that Yeah, I'm 274 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 7: not going to get into none of it was good 275 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 7: enough today. 276 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 9: Leave it at that. How concerned are you about the 277 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 9: way this looked? Right? Obviously take ones on the other side. Yeah, 278 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 9: we know our ownership sit on what they felt with him, 279 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 9: and you know, he has a big game against you, 280 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 9: and you guys can't do anything. 281 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 7: He played well, and you know, like we said, he 282 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 7: gets the base, he's going to make some yards. And 283 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 7: you know he played well, particularly there in the second half. 284 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 7: You know, the first half he got that that edge there, 285 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 7: played well. We prepared for Its just not good enough. 286 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 10: You right at the end of the first half, and 287 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 10: they know you didn't have any timeouts, didn't kick a 288 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 10: field goal instead of printing a shop into just what 289 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 10: was your thought process there? 290 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 7: I just thought it was the best thing to do. 291 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 11: Hunting in the first quarter, I believe that you run 292 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 11: in forty. 293 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 5: Something, third, fourth and three. 294 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, that thought it was the best decision. Wow, you know, 295 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 7: I talked with the with the guys upstairs. We make 296 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 7: the decision we think is best for the teams. 297 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 10: As you were calling plays, did you get a sense 298 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 10: that you could not do a lot of the stuff 299 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 10: that you wanted to do because Daniel was not secure 300 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 10: in the pocket at all. 301 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, you're always you're always changing based on how the 302 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 7: game is going. But again, make no excuses not good 303 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,239 Speaker 7: enough games. 304 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 12: Do you see any common threads for the struggles offensively 305 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 12: today that lingered from the Bengals game, because. 306 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 7: Last I saw talking when Jordan asked, I mean the 307 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 7: explosive plays, twenty yard plus plays. 308 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 5: When you have big plays in a drive, it really ups. 309 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 7: Your chances converting on third down, which you know we 310 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 7: didn't have I don't know three or fourteen was it 311 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 7: something like that. It's hard, it's hard to sustain drives 312 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 7: if you're not creating big plays and you're not converting 313 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 7: on third downs, and some of that as a result 314 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 7: of first and second down, some of the sacks and 315 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 7: negative plays that we took. We haven't been going backwards 316 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 7: a whole bunch. But again, not good enough anyway when 317 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 7: you look at it, when you when. 318 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 12: You identify those as the issues, yes, there are ways 319 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 12: that you know you're obviously going to try to fix it. 320 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 12: Whatever you try to do for this week didn't work, 321 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 12: So you go. 322 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 13: Back to the drawing board. 323 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: Do you try to try to get as. 324 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 7: Many reps as we can in those critical situations? You 325 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 7: know you don't have so many reps you can give, 326 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 7: but third down, red zone, pushing them ball down the field. 327 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 7: Those are things we work at, you know, i'd say, 328 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 7: every single day. And it's not where it needs to 329 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 7: be right right. 330 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, a game like today can lead plays demoralized. Are 331 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: you concerned about that in your luck of room? 332 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I mean, look, no one was happy about 333 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 7: the result. I think we have a strong group. You 334 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 7: need to have a strong group in this league. There's 335 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 7: a lot of ups and downs. Unfortunately had more downs, 336 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 7: but our guys will we'll come back, we'll regroup, and 337 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 7: we'll do. 338 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 5: Everything we possibly do. 339 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 7: Like we do each week to you know, to be 340 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 7: at our best on Monday night with Banks. Do you 341 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 7: think not betching him when the CD lamp play happens 342 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 7: allows something like this to happen in a later game. 343 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not gonna again. 344 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 7: Well, we'll keep you know, the conversations we have in 345 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 7: house about really technique, fundamentals, effort, anything like that. 346 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 5: We'll keep that in house. 347 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 8: I really haven't been able to create explosive pass plays 348 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 8: with Daniel in for years. What gives you confidence that 349 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 8: he can do it? 350 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 7: You know, you you'd like to. You know, we have 351 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 7: some some guys around him that I think can can 352 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 7: create explosive plays. And we'll just go back to the 353 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 7: drawing board and do the very best we can to 354 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 7: you know, try to improve that area, which you know, 355 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 7: for two weeks in a row, but you know. 356 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 5: It's been a little bit longer than that. 357 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 7: We've we haven't created him, and we need to. 358 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 5: You consider Daniel a limitation to what you could do 359 00:15:59,360 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 5: on offense. 360 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 4: No, no, no, you. 361 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 14: Came out on the game. I say congratulations to him. 362 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 7: I just saw him after the game real quick. 363 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 5: He was surrounded. 364 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 7: I waited for him for a minute and told him, congratulations, 365 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 7: we had a good game. 366 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: You came out throwing today. 367 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I mean that's obviously you saw something 368 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 10: that you wanted to try to exploit. 369 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 9: Was that the reason that you you know. 370 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought we had some space in there. 371 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 7: I thought there was again some opportunities, you know, and 372 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 7: we just you know, for whatever the reason may be, 373 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 7: we just we didn't get it done. 374 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's the head coach of the Giants, 375 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: Brian Dables. Press conference was brought to you by Hackensack 376 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: Murty and hell keep getting better. 377 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: We got in there. 378 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: One question late, coming back from the break, he was 379 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: asked if Daniel Jones is going to remain the giants 380 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: styre starting quarterback. 381 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: He said, yes, he is moving forward. 382 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: A very important note there, just that he kind of 383 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: wanted to get him out of the game because a 384 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: he was getting his you know, beat up back there 385 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: and the Giants offense and only you know, create a 386 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: little bit more than one hundred yards at that point. 387 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: But Bob, he will remain the starting quarterback moving forward. 388 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean they put Drew locket and he faced 389 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 5: the same thing. He's running for his life. They got 390 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 5: smacked around. The offensive line is an issue. We've talked 391 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 5: about how they fixed it or how it's been better, 392 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 5: But now you don't have Andrew Thomas. And again, you know, 393 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 5: you took a guy seventh overall in a draft two 394 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 5: years ago. At some point, right you're gonna have to 395 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 5: figure out a way to get him on the field 396 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 5: because look, josh A Zudu, again, he's trying his best, 397 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 5: but right now it's just not good enough across the board, Jonathan, 398 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 5: and you know, you can't function as an offense if 399 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 5: you can't win at the point of attack. And they 400 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 5: were overpowered at the point of attack today. 401 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: And it wasn't just the left tackle position, which Andrew 402 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: Thomas plays and a Zudu stepped in for. It was 403 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 3: Greg Roten, it was John Michael Smith's who was other 404 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 3: people that were given up sacks. It wasn't just one 405 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 3: guy that is supported supposedly the weakest link because he's 406 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: replacing all pro type player and you made a. 407 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: Little got beat a few times at the right tackle 408 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: as well. 409 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 3: It was everyone. It was everyone. They all looked like 410 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: they regressed today, you know, And this is we're talking 411 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 3: about an OH and fourteen that has not performed well 412 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: at home, you know, only scoring six points in an opener, 413 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: fifteen points against Dallas, seven points against last week the Tangles, 414 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 3: and then today three points. They've regressed from not being 415 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: a good team at home to being this three points 416 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 3: two point two yards per play where it just looked 417 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: like they were completely outmatched by a team that's not 418 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty two Philadelphia Eagles or the ten and 419 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: one Phildelfi Eagles were last year. They're not that team. 420 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: And look, we talked about this on the postgame show 421 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: last week and I'll reiterate it. 422 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: Last week, the Giants longest player was fifteen yards. They 423 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: had four of those plays. 424 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: This week, the longest play was fourteen yards. They only 425 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: had one such play. The Giants in this game had 426 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: only seven plays go for ten yards or more in 427 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: this game. The Philadelphi Eagles, on the other hand, had 428 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: six plays that all went longer than the Giant. Giant's 429 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: longest play of fourteen yards. The Eagles that plays of 430 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: fifty five yards, forty one yards, thirty eight yards, sixteen yards, 431 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: and fifteen yards, and then another fourteen yard played to 432 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: match the Giants' biggest play. Bob it's impossible to win 433 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: a game. If you're looking at those numbers, you're just 434 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: not going to win ever exactly. 435 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 5: And that's why the Giants are all for at home. 436 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 5: Because the thing that blows me away again, I keep 437 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 5: going back to this thing. The thing that blows me 438 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 5: away is in Washington, in Cleveland, in Seattle, they move 439 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 5: the ball up and down the field, same guys, same guys. 440 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: They didn't score touchdowns, but they moved the ball. 441 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 5: Put the ball up and down the field. Correct, they 442 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 5: moved the ball up and down the field in those games. 443 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 5: I don't understand how at home it looks. It's not 444 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 5: like you're changing. It's not like line changes in hockey. 445 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 5: Where you're playing you got different guys, like it's the 446 00:19:59,200 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 5: same guys on the team. 447 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: And even last week they had at least two opportunities 448 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: for deep lasses down the field that they couldn't connect 449 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: on JC. Look, we even't watched the old twenty two back. 450 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna we all rewatched the game tomorrow. I didn't 451 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: see deep opportunities today where guys are opening Benie Jones 452 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: is overthrowing him. They weren't even opportunities to get the 453 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: ball down the field in this game, whether it was 454 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: guys not winning or the pass protection obviously. 455 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 5: Past protection again, five of the seven sacks on Jones, 456 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 5: in my opinion, he barely could get his back foot 457 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 5: down and when he did, he was already dodging two 458 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 5: or three guys. 459 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: How about that one blitz with by Dean on the 460 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: play action where he just turned around for the play 461 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: action fake and he was getting tackled. 462 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 5: I got that, Like, you can't have deep shots down 463 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 5: the field, It's physically impossible. 464 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 3: The one, the one shot that they did have, I 465 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 3: think it came three minutes left in the fourth quarter. 466 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: Lot to Hyatt, Yeah, well. 467 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: You're the one. 468 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: He went to Neighbors down the left island where he 469 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: was double team. 470 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: There was no chance. 471 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: Even even at that point. Even at that point, every 472 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: single third down before that overthrow of Neighbors was a sack. 473 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: Every single third down before that was a sack. Look 474 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 3: at Giants got sacked every single third down. Think about it. 475 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 3: How many times did the Giants punt today? Eleven times? 476 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: Those first four or five times, it was all after 477 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 3: a third down sack. Every time they got sacked on 478 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 3: third time. Every time they try to throw the football. 479 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and then and when, like Carl said, 480 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 5: you know, and then when you have a chance to 481 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 5: make a play to kind of keep things going, you 482 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 5: get a legal man downfield, so you wipe out that 483 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 5: play to Slaton. Then you have a scramble drill and 484 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 5: you had the Daniel Jones throw behind Slayton, but you 485 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 5: got two hands in his shoulder on the ball. 486 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: You gotta catch. 487 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 5: I'm watching all these other games. And then Wandell Robinson, 488 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 5: I mean, how many more third down drops are you 489 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 5: gonna have? They're not good enough to overcome it. Patrick 490 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 5: Mahomes can overcome that. They can have a series where 491 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 5: they blow a play and he's like, all right, well 492 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 5: we get the ball back, We'll find a way to 493 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 5: move it when they miss a ants to gain some 494 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 5: momentum after a three and out to start the third 495 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 5: quarter with Philadelphia, your defense does a job there and 496 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 5: then you know, that's that gets the crowd into it, 497 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 5: that gets the defense on their heels. You curvever the 498 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 5: third down. You got things to just think about. Demoralizing 499 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 5: in the fourth down conversions were by Philadelphia. 500 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. 501 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: Giants football is brought to you by our local Ford stores. 502 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: One engine drives this team. For current offers, visit by 503 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: Ford Now dot com. Ford Official truck of the Giants. 504 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: Time out, We'll come back more from the locker room. 505 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: Giants Faullton Eagles twenty eight to three. 506 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 6: You are listening to Giants Extra point on the Wfan 507 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 6: Giants radio network. 508 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 15: This is Elite Neighbors and you're listening to the radio 509 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 15: home of Big Blue the Fan WFN and WFN FM, 510 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 15: New York. 511 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 5: Neighbors out the right. If your receivers left, Slayton and 512 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 5: Dommins Tracy to the right of Jones. Jones yells alert, 513 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 5: taps his helmet, calls out signals, takes the snapping back 514 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 5: to the rock Fires. One of the right sideline neighbors 515 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 5: takes the tax trucks to turn inside, fights off one 516 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 5: tackle and then he's dragged down to seventeen. 517 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: That Eligue Dabors fourteen yard catch helped set up the 518 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: Giants loan score a great Joseph thirty eight yard field 519 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: goal at the end of the first half, and that 520 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: sadly was the Giants' longest play of the game as well, 521 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: for fourteen yards and of the same line I used 522 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: last week. That's our scoring drive of the game because 523 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: it was the Giants only scoring drive of the game. 524 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: Brought to you by Citizens. 525 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: For every scoring drive this season, Citizens will donate seven 526 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars to the Giants Foundation to support 527 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 1: their work tackling important community issues, improving overall health and 528 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,239 Speaker 1: empowering our youth. John Schmelt, Johnathan Casius, Bob Papa with 529 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: you right here on Giants extra point. The Giants fall 530 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: to the Philadelphia Eagles MetLife Stadium twenty eight to three. 531 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: They now said at two and five, Eagles improve to 532 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: four and two. And guys, I think when you look 533 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: at a game like this, and Brian Dable made that point, 534 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: and we will get more audio from the locker room. 535 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: By the way, Daniel Jones did not go to the podium. 536 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: We'll try to get him from the locker room for 537 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: you and all the other audio downstairs as well. But 538 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: this as much as any other loss this year. And 539 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: I guess it's not surprising given the scores twenty eight 540 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: to three JC. This is the team loss like there 541 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: was a like this besides the pass rush in the 542 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: first half when they were getting to Jal when hurts 543 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: an awful lot the Eagles aside they wanted to throw 544 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: the ball for some reason. There was really not much 545 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: else you can point to in this game and say, boy, 546 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: that guy really did a great job and did his 547 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: part aside from that pass rush at half. 548 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 3: Number one, Yeah, that's it. You know, you can't take 549 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 3: away from what they did. And in terms of rushing 550 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: the football on the fidef for Eagles rushing for two 551 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy yards against this you know front that's 552 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 3: led by Dexa Lawrence and I'll talk about him a lot, 553 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 3: you know, but like where's the rushing defense? Like where's 554 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 3: when you step into a defensive meeting room every single year, 555 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 3: every single game the number one goal? And I ask 556 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 3: some guys this too, Is this still the number one goal? 557 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 3: Is this still the number one goal to stop the 558 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 3: run every week? And it hasn't changed in twenty twenty four. 559 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I've been out the league for seven years, 560 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 3: but it still hasn't changed. It's still the number one 561 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: thing to give up two hundred and seventy rushing yards. 562 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: The defense did not do their job. 563 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: Nothing bothers defensive coordinators more than getting run on. 564 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 3: It means you weren't as physical as the other team. 565 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: You got out physical, and when you establish yourself, when 566 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 3: you want to establish yourself, you want to establish a 567 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 3: physical presence. Yes, you can have a mental effect on 568 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: them as well, but physically, this is a physical football game. 569 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: Football is a physical game, one of the best and 570 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 3: greatest sports in the world. But it's great because it's physical. 571 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: You can hit people, you can push people back. And 572 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 3: the Giants got pushed around the field today for the 573 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: fourth time at home. 574 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: And Bob you know mentioned earlier, the Giants were able 575 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: to get the jailen hurts. 576 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 2: Then the Eagles started to run the ball. 577 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: That takes pressure off of their pass projection because they 578 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: can run it well that the Giants weren't unable to 579 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: do that. That's how you get pressure off of your 580 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: offensive line by running the football. In the first half 581 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: of this game, the Giants rushed eight times for twenty 582 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: four yards, and twenty of those yards came from Daniel Jones. 583 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: The running backs rushed just three times for four yards 584 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: in the first half. 585 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they've elected to come out throwing here the 586 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 5: last couple of weeks, which you know, obviously it hasn't 587 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 5: worked because they're not scoring points you know. The other 588 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 5: thing is guys got to play better or they got 589 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 5: to find new players, because you can't have every time 590 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 5: that Dexter Lawrence goes out of the game, you suddenly 591 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 5: get in the twelve yard run up the middle like 592 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 5: he needs a blow. All these other teams have. You know, 593 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 5: you have rotations and guys have to play better. And look, 594 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 5: you know the Giants because they've down somebody. You know, 595 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 5: you got Patrick Johnson after who actually played a game 596 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 5: for the Eagles earlier this year, and the Giants signed 597 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 5: him off their practice squad. He's played forty nine career 598 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 5: games in Philadelphia. Every time he was in that's when 599 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 5: they ran it, you know, and they picked up something 600 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 5: on him. They obviously know the player. And you can't 601 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 5: when your frontline guys go take a blow. There can't 602 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 5: be this dramatic dropoff in what's happening to Jonathan And 603 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 5: you would know this better than anybody. 604 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: You know. 605 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 5: Defenses rotate people in and out, and you can't have 606 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 5: significant dropoffs when your best player is out of the game. 607 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 3: No, not at all. I mean, dexter impact is huge, 608 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 3: but it can't just be when he's on the field. 609 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 3: You know it has to be other guys stepping up 610 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 3: because Dexa Lawrence is so great, I have to play 611 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: great as well. I have to step my game up 612 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 3: because I know the value that he brings and him 613 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 3: not being on the field, that takes a greatness off 614 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 3: of the field. So what are you gonna do as 615 00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 3: a man? 616 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: This up and playing And you know what, maybe you're 617 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: not going to give them the pass rush that Dexter does. 618 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: That's fine, but can you not get blown off the 619 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: ball in the run game? 620 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 621 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 2: That would help. 622 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: I mean it is And look, I'm sorry, but when 623 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 3: you talk about effort and it's questioning effort, twenty eighty 624 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 3: three is effort. That's effort. It's not just a lack 625 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 3: of skill, a lack of talent. It is also effort 626 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 3: as well. And look, I don't have the twenty two 627 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: all to watch right now. You know, it's very hard 628 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: to see while I'm taking notes to see exactly all 629 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 3: eleven people run into the ball, all eleven people getting 630 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 3: off the football. But there's an attitude about stopping the run. 631 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 3: And it's not just the point of attack. It is 632 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 3: other guys that the ball is not being directed at. 633 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: That's violently ripping off of tackles, off of blocks. Football, 634 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 3: it's still down to blocking and tackling. Yes, you score 635 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 3: touchdowns and stuff like that, that's all cool. But two hundred 636 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: and seventy rushing yards meaning one team blocked very well 637 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 3: and the other team didn't tackle well or get off blocks. 638 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: That's what that means. And that is the fundamentals of football. 639 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 3: You were taught as a child as soon as you 640 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 3: put the flags and the pads come on, you're taught 641 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 3: blocking and you're taught tackling. And the Giants are not 642 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: doing that well at all. Matter of fact, they're not 643 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 3: doing They're doing a horrible job at at home. 644 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: Horrible. 645 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and look, discipline. When you're going against 646 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 5: an elite running back like Saquon Barkley, you gotta be disciplined. 647 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 5: And Azizo Julary committed the cardinal sin of getting pinned inside. 648 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 5: Barkley goes for fifty five and then on the other 649 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 5: Barkley run, I think it was Barkley. May I thought 650 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 5: pretty sure it was Barkley on that same drive where 651 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 5: Saquon had like a fourteen yard run or whatever. You know, 652 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 5: Ars Julari has got to get off that block. He's 653 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 5: got to get off that block, and he didn't get 654 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 5: off that block, and that enabled them to get the 655 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 5: ball to where they got it. And then the rest, 656 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 5: as they say, is history. 657 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: And Deontae Banks I thought, on that long pitch to 658 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: the left, he got caught crashing inside too, and Barkley 659 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: got outside of him very easily as well. Today's statistics 660 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: are brought to you by the Archdiocese of New York. 661 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: Learn more at Inner City NYC dot org. For the Giants, 662 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is fourteen of twenty one, nine nine yards, 663 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: no touchdowns, no interceptions. Giants did not turn the ball 664 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: over today. That's even crazy, which actually makes the fact 665 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: that you got dominated the way you did without turning 666 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: the ball over it's it's amazing. Drew Locke came in 667 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: for Daniel Jones in the fourth quarter, did not go well, 668 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: three of eight for six yards. 669 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: He got sacked in this game as well. 670 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: Running the ball to Giants eighteen rushes seventy six yards 671 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: four point two yards per cary, but that does not 672 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: tell the story. Tyrone Chasey six for twenty three, three 673 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: point eight yards per carry, Daniel Jones five for twenty 674 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary five for eighteen this game. Drew Locke had 675 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: one scrambled for thirteen yards. Wanda Robbins had led the 676 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: team in catches with six, but for only twenty three 677 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: yards a long of six for Wandel Robinson. The league 678 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: neighbors four catches forty one yards on eight targets. Tyrone 679 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: Tracy three catches nine yards in a catch each for 680 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: Darius Slayton, Daniel Bellinger, Eric Gray, and Devin Singletary. You 681 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier. JC Matt Hawk eleven punts in this 682 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: game forty three yard net pretty good in terms of 683 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: punting for the Eagles. Saquon bar seventeen carries one hundred 684 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: and seventy six yards, and one of the guys that 685 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: does NFL stats put this up on his Twitter feet 686 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier today. Saquon Barkley, now the player 687 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: that has the largest single single game rushing number for 688 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: the Giants in the last ten years, also has the 689 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: largest single game rushing game against the Giants over the 690 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: past ten years. Seventeen carries one hundred and seventy six 691 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: yards ten yards of carry that touchdown long of fifty five. 692 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: Kenneth Gainwell, he got into the act two thirteen rushes 693 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: fifty six yards. Jalen Hurts again just ten of fourteen 694 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteen yards a touchdown. The Eagles, who 695 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: by the way, had turned it over in nine straight 696 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: games until last weeks game against the Browns. This defense 697 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: did not force a takeaway in this game either. They 698 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: can not get the ball on the ground, they're taken away. 699 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: Aj Brown five catches eighty nine yards, forty one coming 700 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: on that long touchdown pass down the left sideline on 701 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: the fourth and three, and then Saquon Barkley two catches 702 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: eleven yards and then only one catchup Piecet for Kenneth Gainwell, 703 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: great col Tatara and Devonte Smich just won catch for 704 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: Nike of two yards behind the line of scrimmers. The 705 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: Giants did control him fairly well defensively. I should give 706 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: these stats because both teams were after both quarterbacks. The 707 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: Eagles finished with eight sacks, two for the Kobe Dean, 708 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: two for Jalen Carter, Nolan Smith and Bryce Off each 709 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: had one, along with Josh Sweat and Jlyx Hunt for 710 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants. Two sacks for Dexter Lawrence. 711 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: He now has eight on the year. That's a new 712 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: career high for him. Brian burn got nine. Who's got 713 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: nine sacks now? Sorry stole a new career high for Froim. 714 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: Thank you, Bob, I forgot he hit the one last week. 715 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: One for Brian Burns, one for Taman Fox, one for 716 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: Azizo Jalari. The Giants had five sacks in total. All right, 717 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: let's take a quick time out. When we come back, 718 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: we'll continue to talk about this game, and we have 719 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: some sound coming in from the locker room as well. 720 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: That and more when we return. 721 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 6: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the Wfan Giants 722 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 6: Radio Network. 723 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 9: This is Daniel Jones, and you're listening to the radio 724 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 9: home of Big Blue the Fan, WFAN and Wfan FM, 725 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 9: New York. 726 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: We're back here on Giants Extra Point. The Giants fall 727 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: to the Philadelphia Eagles twenty eight to three. The player 728 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: press conferences are brought to you by MetLife, the official 729 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: insurance company of the New York Giants. 730 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 2: Here's Daniel Jones after the games. 731 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 16: I'm sure if it was that easy to fix, and 732 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 16: it was just one or two things to fix, you 733 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 16: guys would have been able to fix it. During the 734 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 16: game someone in general, what was the most difficult aspect 735 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 16: of this game? 736 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 3: Will fix it? 737 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 11: I think just our execution wasn't there. Yeah, I mean 738 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 11: third down was obviously an issue. Sustaining guys and getting 739 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 11: the rhythm. So frustrating, you know, look at the tape 740 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 11: and see where where we can improve, and certainly look 741 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 11: at myself and see where I need to improve. 742 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 16: I don't know if it was an asked, dame, but 743 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 16: it was a frustrating. 744 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 11: Yeah, it was frustrating if you want to be out 745 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 11: there playing with your teammates and fighting to score points 746 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 11: and and move the ball and yeah, so I was frustrated. Yeah, 747 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 11: but not my decision, but yeah, frustrating for sure, and 748 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 11: want to be out there. 749 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 9: Playing. 750 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 5: I think were more pressure than normal. 751 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 11: They brought some pressure here and there, you know, maybe 752 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 11: a little bit more than they normally do, but nothing 753 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 11: completely out of the ordinar. 754 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 9: What did Germaine share with you? 755 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 14: So I used to talking with him on the sideline. 756 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 11: There, I think, just talking about going forward from here 757 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 11: and and where we where we need to go, you know, 758 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 11: kind of supporting each other and having each other's back. 759 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 11: I think, you know, we have a good group of guys, 760 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 11: and uh, you know, it's a critical time for us 761 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 11: to come together and and uh, you know, support each 762 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 11: other's players, and you know, ignore the noise or the 763 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 11: U know, wherever that's coming from and stick together as 764 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 11: as players and teammates and uh, and move forward. 765 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 9: To address what we need to address and and continue 766 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 9: to improve. 767 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 16: Daniel, how much of a of a hand grenade was 768 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 16: it to have that touchdown pulled off the board at 769 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 16: the end of the first half when you hit the Johnson. 770 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 4: And make the gold to better? 771 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 11: Yeah, tough break there, that penalty, and uh, you know, 772 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 11: we go back and watch it, and I didn't think, 773 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 11: you know, we'll see I mean, we'll see what what 774 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 11: what it looks like on film. But yeah, tough to 775 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 11: tough to lose that one. 776 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 16: So you didn't see it as the play developed, You 777 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 16: didn't You didn't see any any contact. 778 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, we'll go back and we'll go back 779 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 11: and look at it. Probably ran a good route that 780 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 11: I got opened. And tough to lose that one. 781 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 16: What is your personal approach to trying to recover and 782 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 16: rebuild after a game such as this. 783 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 11: Obviously there's physically physical things on the field that need 784 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 11: to be addressed. 785 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 9: And and uh, you know, you. 786 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 11: Do that in the film room, you do that at practice, 787 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 11: and there's also you know, a mental piece of it. 788 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 9: And how we you know, move forward, how we uh. 789 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 11: You know, continue to build confidence and and you know 790 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 11: build build belief and spirit and you know, all those 791 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 11: things are important as we go forward. 792 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 16: One thing we always talk about with an offense is 793 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 16: having some balance. Could not get much of a running 794 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 16: wing going in the first half either. How much of 795 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 16: a detriment was that to try to do what you were. 796 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 4: Trying to do? 797 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 9: Uh? 798 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean we didn't didn't run the ball much 799 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 11: in the first half, so you had tough to get 800 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 11: much going when when you don't run it, but uh, 801 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 11: you know, still opportunities. 802 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 9: Got to convert the opportunities. 803 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 14: Dan, Sorry, I just got here. 804 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 17: What was your immediate reaction when they multiply out? 805 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, I was frustrated. I want to be out there. 806 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 11: I want to be playing with my teammates and trying 807 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 11: to score points. So uh yeah, I was frustrated. And yeah, 808 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 11: didn't I mean didn't like it obviously. 809 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 7: Do you feel like I feel like there's a lot 810 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 7: more issues the offense is not functioning for a lot 811 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 7: of reasons, and that it's, for lack of a better word, 812 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 7: not fair dependent. 813 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 4: On you. 814 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 9: As a quarterback. 815 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 11: I think it's my responsibility to to get everything going 816 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 11: and build, you know, build rhythm, build, build momentum. Execute 817 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 11: the opportunities out are there. And I take that seriously. 818 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,959 Speaker 11: So I'll certainly look at myself, look at myself. 819 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 9: First and see where I can improve. 820 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 11: Football is a team game and it takes you know, 821 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 11: everybody playing well. But I got a big role in that, 822 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 11: and take that very seriously. 823 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 10: Did you feel secure in the pocket today? It seemed 824 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 10: like this was as shaky as a pocket you've had 825 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 10: this season. 826 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think, like I said, we'll go back and 827 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 11: look at it. I think, see where I can get 828 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 11: the ball out of my hands quicker. Certainly we're some opportunities. 829 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 9: To do that. I've got a good pass rush compared 830 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 9: to them with that. 831 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 11: But yeah, I'll go, you know, go back and look 832 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 11: at where I could have helped out. 833 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 10: Considering you know, Dave David said it was pulled you 834 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 10: for the to try to give you the team a spark. 835 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 10: Considering that, how concerned you about your standing long term. 836 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 9: As the quarterback? Starting quarterback of the giants. 837 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 11: I'm just gonna continue to prepare and and try to 838 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 11: play as well as I can. They all can, you know, 839 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 11: his team, and and uh up to him to make 840 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 11: those decisions. Obviously, I believe in myself and believe, you know, 841 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 11: in this offense. 842 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 9: So I'm just gonna focus on myself. 843 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 13: He said to some conversation when he made his decisions, 844 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 13: you and Brian. 845 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 11: It wasn't much of a conversation though, just said he's 846 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 11: gonna go Drew h looking for a spark. 847 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 9: So that was about Its. 848 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:05,240 Speaker 7: Difficult to see thriving for them. 849 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 3: Not yet. 850 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean he played a good game. 851 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 11: I'd say overall our defense played well, you know, with 852 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 11: the exception of some of those runs, but they played well. 853 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 11: And and uh yeah, Saquon do that. He's obviously a 854 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,439 Speaker 11: good player. We know that very well. 855 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 5: And inability to create explosive plays. 856 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 9: And week after week for you guys, Yeah, I don't know. 857 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 11: I think we'll look at the film and see where 858 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 11: we miss some h It's my job to convert those 859 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 11: opportunities and give guys chances to make plays. So look 860 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 11: at where I can where I can do better, And 861 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 11: you know, I think at times this year. 862 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 9: We have creative, explosive plays. 863 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 11: So you know, going back to look at you know 864 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 11: where those opportunities came from and how we can generate some. 865 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 10: More After the game. Just now, Brian said that you 866 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 10: are the quarterback moving forward? Does that help in any way? 867 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 10: Or does getting benched? You know, sting too much and 868 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 10: you can't even think about that right now. 869 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 11: I'm just gonna prepare, uh, go about my week doing 870 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 11: what I need to do to prepare. 871 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 9: To play play good football. And uh, you. 872 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 11: Know how he sees that, you know, decisions he wants 873 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 11: to make because you know it's on him. 874 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 9: It's a beair question for him. I'm just gonna focus 875 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 9: on myself. 876 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 10: Telling you in k case you he said you are 877 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 10: the quarterback, going, yeah, I'm not confident of myself and 878 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 10: I'll be ready to go. 879 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 3: How are you feeling physically after taking all this? 880 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 9: I feel good? 881 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Daniel Jones. After the game. 882 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: Let's paulut ten seconds for station identification on the w 883 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: FA N Giants radio network w f A, n w 884 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: f A. 885 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 6: N F M, w s A, n F M HD 886 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 6: one New York and station. 887 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to Giants extra point Giants fall to the 888 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles twenty eight to three. I'm John Schmult joined 889 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: by Karl Banks. Will be welcome back Carl Banks from 890 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: the TV set. Carl, we just listened to Daniel Joe. 891 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: There your thoughts about that and your overall thoughts here 892 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: after this Giant's twenty five point defeat. 893 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I said it as we were closing out. 894 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 4: It was just an unacceptable performance. And this is a 895 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 4: culmination of the last four weeks both sides of the football. 896 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 4: I said, offensively, they have to start valuing possessions. Said 897 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 4: it last week, said the week before this week. If 898 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 4: your offense is struggling, make the layups before you can 899 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 4: shoot a jump shot. If you're if you know, here's 900 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 4: the reason I say this, John, is because every play 901 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 4: looks the same. That there is no more importance put 902 00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 4: on a player making a play than him missing the play. 903 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 3: And if you're. 904 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 4: Dropping the ball and you know your offense has nothing going, 905 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 4: and I know you don't plan on dropping footballs, but 906 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 4: catch one, your drive starts, or you get a big 907 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 4: play and illegal man down the field, ball hits you 908 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 4: in the chest, two guys hit you, ball comes out. Well, yeah, 909 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 4: you can say the ball comes out and hit me 910 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 4: in the chest if but for your team has no offense, 911 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 4: so you need to you have to make those Those 912 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 4: are important possessions. You know. We keep saying, and it's true, 913 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 4: but two things can be true. We keep saying, this 914 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 4: defense played well, right, Okay, but for the last how 915 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 4: many with the last four games, it's been chunk plays 916 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 4: that have done them in. Right, so you'll say they 917 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 4: play well, but for two plays well, but for three 918 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 4: plays they played well today, But for one hundred and 919 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 4: eighty five yards and three plays from Saquon. 920 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: Barkway, Eagles had four plays of thirty eight or more yards, right, 921 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: So you can't have that. 922 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 4: So, yes, two things can be true. The defense could 923 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,720 Speaker 4: have played well, but this is the culmination of everything 924 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 4: that you have not corrected yet. It's just as simple. 925 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 4: And when you look in the mirror, this is this 926 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 4: is what you see because it inevitably happens in pro sports. 927 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 4: If you fail to correct the things that you're not 928 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 4: good at, it's gonna come a time, and it's gonna 929 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 4: be the worst time when it all it all comes 930 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 4: together and blows up in your face. That's what this 931 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 4: was today. There's this and you know, I heard Brandon 932 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 4: London say they need to have a player's only meeting. No, 933 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 4: they don't. The cavalry ain't coming right, it's just them. 934 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 4: Just like Daniel Jones said, they've got to shut out 935 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 4: the noise. They got to rally around each other and 936 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 4: understand that what happens in practice has to translate to 937 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 4: the game. Coach Dable said that it's somewhat perplexing when 938 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 4: they're getting so many of these things correct in practice 939 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 4: and they're getting the game they can't get it accomplished. Well, 940 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 4: that is a different environment, meaning the opponent, right, But 941 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 4: as players, you've got to be able to transition what 942 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 4: you practiced into a game because most of the conditions 943 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 4: that you practiced are the things that you're gonna see 944 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 4: in the game. Just like Daniel said, they blitzed a 945 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 4: little bit more than we thought, but we knew they 946 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 4: were gonna blitz right, So if you were picking them 947 00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 4: up in practice, you have to get in a game 948 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 4: and do the same thing. 949 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: So and by the way, Carl I thought, for the 950 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: most part, they seemed to be aware of the blitzers, 951 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: they just didn't execute it. 952 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 4: Execute That's correct. And you know, the the offensive line 953 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 4: minus Andrew Thomas, it looked like the game Jinger. You know, 954 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 4: you pull the one block and everything is just kind 955 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 4: of teetering, and that is It's what it looked like. 956 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 4: So you know, and look, they practiced all week knowing 957 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 4: exactly who the Eagles were and how they were going 958 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 4: to be attacked, and they just didn't hold up. But 959 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,240 Speaker 4: the other thing is when I talk about the little 960 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 4: things that you don't correct Eagles. 961 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,479 Speaker 1: By the way, I had a twenty eight percent blitz 962 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,959 Speaker 1: rate in this game. That is not a high buzz 963 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: it's not. 964 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 4: But here's the thing. When I talk about the little 965 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 4: things that just kept manifesting themselves week after week after week. Well, 966 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 4: last week, DJ Hill and that crew on the internal 967 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 4: aspect of the Giants offensive line. You think Philadelphia didn't 968 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 4: see that because because you're you're looking at the edge 969 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 4: of saying, well, we got it, we got a new 970 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 4: tackle here, Philadelphia saying well, heck, Cincinnati had a lot 971 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 4: of success work in the middle of the internal aspect 972 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 4: of the Giants offense. John Michael Smiths and all those guys, 973 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 4: you didn't show it up, and it manifested into what 974 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 4: it did today. So again, the Cavalry ain't coming. Ain't 975 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 4: no discussion about anything other than next week. Right, It 976 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 4: don't matter whether it's at home or away. Nothing else matters. 977 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 4: But next week. Don't worry about your schedule, don't worry 978 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 4: about your win loss record. Next week is the next 979 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 4: win that you need to get. 980 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 2: And that's Monday night football, by the way, at the Pittsburgh. 981 00:46:55,560 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's right, Brian Coome game. Listen, Carl just 982 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 5: summed up everything perfectly. I mean, this was a team 983 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 5: loss across the board, right, I mean, they played really 984 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 5: good defense for a quarter and the opening series of 985 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 5: the third quarter, but all in all, you know, they 986 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 5: they didn't play good enough. Like Carl, you pointed out, 987 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 5: when you have you're going against a guy like Saquon Barkley, 988 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 5: a Zizojulari can't get penned in, you know, because the 989 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 5: game at that point was it was like a it 990 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,399 Speaker 5: was like a mud slinging contest. It was back and forth, 991 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 5: there's punts, no one was really doing anything offensively, and 992 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 5: that kind of like broke the seal a little bit. Yeah, 993 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 5: and then the Giants became unorganized and suddenly they're starting 994 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,399 Speaker 5: to gash get gashed on runs left and right, and uh, 995 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 5: you can't also have when Dexter Lawrence goes out of 996 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 5: the game for a breathering. You can't have a complete 997 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,800 Speaker 5: collapse in the interrog of your defense. 998 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 4: And that's the role players have to be attention to 999 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 4: detail statement that I make every week, Yeah, it's it's 1000 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 4: you know, two things can be true because if this 1001 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 4: is where stat junkies, if they didn't see the game, 1002 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,240 Speaker 4: they would be like, well, damn, what happened? Because DeVante 1003 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 4: Smith had one catch for minus yards and aj Brown 1004 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 4: had four catches and most of his yards came on one. 1005 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: Jalen Hart's had ten completions for one hundred and fifteen yards. 1006 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 4: He had ten completions for one hundred and fifteen yards, 1007 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,439 Speaker 4: and you'd be like, well, damn what happened? Right, That's 1008 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 4: what That's how stats can be misleading for the stat junkies. 1009 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 4: But if you watch the game, you knew that the 1010 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 4: Giants were never in this. They were never in it, 1011 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 4: and that's that's not acceptable. 1012 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 5: You know, the touchdown gets called back at the end 1013 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 5: of the half because of the offensive pass interference, So 1014 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 5: instead of going in fourteen seven you go in fourteen 1015 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 5: to three, and then you come out to start the 1016 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 5: third quarter and you get your three and out. Boom, yep, 1017 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 5: you get so get the ball, fourteen to three, go 1018 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 5: down score, make a fourteen to ten game on and 1019 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 5: then you get a third down drop and it's like 1020 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 5: here we go. 1021 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 4: Again, valuing possessions. When you need to get something going, 1022 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 4: you can't afford to drop it. And again, it ain't 1023 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 4: a perfect pass, but you got two hands on it 1024 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 4: and you're pulling it in and you drop it. 1025 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was the slay one. That was the 1026 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 2: one del one that hit him right in the gun. 1027 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 5: There's been too many Wan Dell drops on balls that 1028 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,320 Speaker 5: right in his in his chest. 1029 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 4: Right And this is Bob. Not a single player on 1030 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 4: this team wants to make mistakes. But you gotta f 1031 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 4: in prioritize when you're in the state of where you 1032 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 4: are right now, you gotta prioritize every single possession you 1033 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,399 Speaker 4: gotta you gotta make every possession like it's the one 1034 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 4: that could decide this game, because literally that's where they are. 1035 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 4: That's how tenuous it is with this giant offense just 1036 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,839 Speaker 4: trying to get a drive started or sustain a drive 1037 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 4: and give themselves a chance to really get into their offense. 1038 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 4: Like no doubt in my mind, Brian dabol is a 1039 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 4: great play caller. We can't get to them because they 1040 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 4: can't get out of third downs or as soon as 1041 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 4: they get you know, a big first down, it's called 1042 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 4: back for legal man downfield or you know something of 1043 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 4: that nature, or drop football and now he's back to 1044 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 4: the drawing board. And you can't get a defense on 1045 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 4: its heels if you're constantly starting over on you know, 1046 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 4: the next drive. You gotta be able to sustain some 1047 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 4: stuff so that you can get into your call sheet. 1048 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 2: So we know what the problem is, Carl. What's the solution? 1049 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,240 Speaker 2: Is it just focus? Is it just playing better? What 1050 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 2: to fix this? 1051 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 4: The the obvious answer is yeah, play better? Right, But 1052 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,040 Speaker 4: like I said, the Cavalry ain't coming the schedule, I 1053 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,879 Speaker 4: ain't getting no easier. If you, which I think they do, 1054 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 4: believe that they got enough personnel to win some of 1055 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 4: these games, then they just got to pay attention to detail. 1056 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 4: And again, valuing possessions is very important. When you're in 1057 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 4: this state as a football team, you just don't have 1058 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 4: the margin for er. You don't have the Okay, well 1059 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 4: get them next time, like you got to put drives together, 1060 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 4: you got to make catches and do all of these 1061 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 4: things to give yourself a chance to start to get 1062 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 4: some momentum. 1063 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 5: But Carl, can you also make the case when you 1064 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 5: have the same recurring issues And we have a lot 1065 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 5: of respect for a lot of the guys that are 1066 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 5: on the coaching staff and who know that they're good coaches, 1067 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 5: but when the same things keep coming up, at some point, 1068 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 5: don't you say, Okay, maybe what we thought these handful 1069 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 5: of players are, they're really not. 1070 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 4: And Bob, you have what you have right now. 1071 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:01,280 Speaker 5: Correct. 1072 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 4: Ain't nothing on the streets better than what you got 1073 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 4: on your roster? 1074 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 5: No, no, no, yeah, I'm not saying that right, just 1075 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 5: saying in a broader look at it, it's like, well, 1076 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 5: if we're having the same problems over and over again, 1077 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 5: it's the same kind of situation. 1078 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 4: So let me give you an example of what Bill 1079 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 4: Parcells would say. He would say to your point, maybe 1080 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 4: my expectations of what you are or what you should 1081 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 4: be are hired than what you have for yourself. Because 1082 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,359 Speaker 4: the same things keep happening over and over again. Ball 1083 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 4: hits you in the hand and hits the ground. There's 1084 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 4: a key situation and you can't. I mean, and he'll 1085 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 4: say to you, let us know if it's too big 1086 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 4: for you. But right now, my expectations for you are 1087 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 4: hired than you have for yourself, and that's not a 1088 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 4: good thing for your teammates. 1089 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,800 Speaker 5: He's a master psychologist, but it was. And he was 1090 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 5: also great on his coaches, because you never wanted to 1091 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 5: hear an assistant coach ever say this guy can't do this. 1092 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 2: Can coach him better or find something he can do 1093 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 2: and let him do that. 1094 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 1: Right, all right, guys, final thoughts, Bob will start with 1095 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 1: you heading into now Monday night at Pittsburgh. The Steelers 1096 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: have the Jets tonight, so we'll get to wash them tonight. 1097 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 1: Looks like Russell Wilson's probably gonna start a quarterback. 1098 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 5: My final thoughts are I expect them to play better 1099 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 5: next week. 1100 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 2: Because they're on the road. 1101 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,320 Speaker 5: No, well, yeah, that's part of it. They average twenty 1102 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 5: three points a game on the road. I just I 1103 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 5: believe in Dable, I believe in his coaching staff, and 1104 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,800 Speaker 5: I think that they will get some of these things fixed. 1105 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 5: But like Carl said, it's really up to the individual 1106 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 5: players looking in the mirror and saying, you know, how 1107 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 5: can I be better? What do I need to do 1108 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 5: to be better? Because they're counting on me. And then 1109 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 5: the whole crazy Daniel Jones home road staft thing is 1110 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 5: it's like, blows me away, but. 1111 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 2: No interceptions today. 1112 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 5: No, but you know, six interceptions, six touchdowns, no interceptions 1113 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 5: on the road this year, And we gave his at 1114 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 5: home no on the road that six touchdowns. 1115 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 2: In Yes, I'm sorry, I apologize, yes, yes, yes. 1116 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,359 Speaker 5: And we've went through the numbers on our podcast. He's 1117 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 5: played the same amount of home well now he's played 1118 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 5: one less road game than home game. But he's got 1119 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 5: a ninety two quarterback rating in his thirty three career 1120 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,839 Speaker 5: road games with forty one touchdowns and fourteen interceptions. That's 1121 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 5: three to one. That means he can function and he 1122 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 5: can play. So I don't know, maybe getting away from 1123 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,800 Speaker 5: this environment, you never want to say that getting away 1124 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 5: from home it could be a good thing. But maybe 1125 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,840 Speaker 5: it's at us against the world thing that they seem 1126 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 5: to thrive on better. 1127 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 4: Well, the world is here in the meadowlands as well. 1128 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 4: It's you against the world and the meadowlands too. 1129 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 2: But and the fans weren't. 1130 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: The fans did a good job again today and they 1131 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 1: gave the team plenty of chances. 1132 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,919 Speaker 2: They were not booing. They did a great job. 1133 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 16: Ye. 1134 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 5: Can I kind of just in wrapping up, Can I 1135 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,359 Speaker 5: salute the Giant fans again this week? 1136 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 9: Ye? 1137 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 5: They were here early Tallgate and it was festive. Look, 1138 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 5: there's a lot of Eagles fans here and just like 1139 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,399 Speaker 5: when we go to Philadelphia, most Giant fans you don't 1140 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 5: see it. There's a ton of Giants fans when they 1141 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 5: play in Philadelphia. It's it's a drive. You don't need 1142 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 5: to book a flight, you don't need to book a hotel. 1143 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 5: You go online, secondary market, you get some tickets. But 1144 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 5: I think the Giant fans have been really tolerant and 1145 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 5: they're trying their best to kind of support this team 1146 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,879 Speaker 5: with you know, lou watching four losses at home now, 1147 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 5: So I get the fans credit. They hung in there today, 1148 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 5: But at some point, right you've got to give them 1149 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 5: something to cheer about. 1150 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's becoming what it was the last 1151 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 4: few years. This stadium is an airbnb for opposing fans now. 1152 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,720 Speaker 4: So but again, the most important game on the schedule 1153 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 4: is against the Pittsburgh still is on Monday night, and 1154 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 4: they've got to they've got to figure out how to 1155 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:53,920 Speaker 4: get a win. 1156 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,280 Speaker 5: Simple and we use one more parcels quote the NFL. 1157 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 5: It's a week two week proposition, right, So what happened 1158 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,439 Speaker 5: this week has no bearing on what will happen next week. 1159 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 2: Gentlemen, we'll talk to you next Monday night. 1160 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 5: JATNYE. 1161 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,320 Speaker 1: Please stick with us if you're listening to our local 1162 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,360 Speaker 1: flagshupstation WFAN here in New York City, But it is 1163 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: time to say goodbye to the affiliates across the country. 1164 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 2: On the Giants Radio Network. 1165 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,240 Speaker 1: Our next broadcast, as Bob and Caral just mentioned, will 1166 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,799 Speaker 1: be next Sunday when the Giants travel to take on 1167 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steer is actually do we. 1168 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 2: Have one more break in the network? Gys. I'm sorry 1169 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,800 Speaker 2: I did a little false start there. Network. 1170 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 1: I apologize, Connor, let's take a time out. We'll come 1171 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: back and then we'll wrap up the network. I got 1172 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 1: a little premature there. We'll come back and wrap up 1173 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 1: the network after this. On the WFAN Giants Radio Network. 1174 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,840 Speaker 6: You're listening to Giants Extra point on the Wfan Giants 1175 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 6: Radio Network. 1176 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 17: This is Dexter launce a second and you're listening to 1177 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 17: the radio home of Big Blue the Fan WFAN and 1178 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 17: Wfan FM, New York. 1179 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,239 Speaker 5: Smith in motion to the right, Hurts of the shotgun, 1180 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,800 Speaker 5: set second and ten back to throw under pressure, looking 1181 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 5: for an escape route, does not get it as the 1182 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 5: giant shut it down as he's Ojelarity. Hurts audibalizing at 1183 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 5: the line. Now goes back to the shotgun with the 1184 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 5: play clock at ten, surveys the defense with a too 1185 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,959 Speaker 5: deep safety look. Hurts, takes the snap back to throw 1186 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 5: under pressure, gets sacked again. Burn Ryan Burns spider man, 1187 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 5: take out your web. Hurts in a shotgun set takes 1188 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 5: the snaff back, pedals, looks feeling pressure, rutshes out to 1189 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 5: his left, cuts back to his right. Sacked again, Burns, Dexter, 1190 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 5: Lawrence and the rest of the front shut him down. 1191 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 5: And that's that's a covered sack there about. There was 1192 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 5: nothing down the field. Hurt surveys the defense, pumps his 1193 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,479 Speaker 5: right leg and takes the snap's back to throw. 1194 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 2: He's under pressure. 1195 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 5: He's gonna get sacked. Dexter Lawrence gets another half sacked 1196 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 5: as a lie. He's a chatman also got in there. 1197 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 2: Giants had five sacks in this game. 1198 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 1: Those are our plays of the game, brought to you 1199 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 1: by our local Ford stores. 1200 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 2: One engine drives this team. 1201 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 1: For current offers, visit by Ford Now dot com Ford 1202 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 1: Official Truck of the Giants. Jase, I think we did 1203 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: talk to Papa, he says, Brian burns take out. The 1204 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: way he's really Spider Man is to take out his webs. 1205 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 1: He shoots his webs. So so I think we did 1206 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 1: talk to Bob as be Brian burn shoots your webs, 1207 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 1: don't He's not his web in his pocket. He's not 1208 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: taking out of his pocket, right, so I think we 1209 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 1: need to shoot the webs. Let's hear from Dexter Lawrence. 1210 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 1: He had two sacks today. We caught up with him 1211 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 1: in the locker room after the game. 1212 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 12: That had a big day rushing even beyond the saqwadya 1213 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 12: two hundred and seventy yards rushing. 1214 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 4: That just too much to give out. 1215 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's too much to give up. 1216 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 4: You're right, I think. 1217 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 3: I think it's good. 1218 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 16: Hurt as a couple of minutes, he's standing in. 1219 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 17: Front of you guys as well as uh, you know, 1220 00:58:58,520 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 17: just talking back and forth a little bit. 1221 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 14: None. 1222 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 17: None, nothe and too crazy just talking back in kept 1223 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 17: a guard stretch. 1224 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 14: Yeah, that's all. 1225 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 16: Nextally, for the most part, that Flote defense in the 1226 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 16: first half was really scrapping and staying in it for 1227 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 16: too big plays to how to be moving kind of 1228 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 16: shots to the jaw. 1229 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 17: Yeah, exactly like I've been saying, like we knew coming 1230 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 17: to this game, all eleven of us had to do 1231 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 17: our job, and you know, if one person didn't, that's 1232 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 17: what they found. 1233 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 4: A big play. 1234 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 17: And uh, and that's tough because you know that's you know, 1235 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 17: you go out there and everybody you know you we 1236 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 17: wanna do our one eleven. But when you don't, you know, 1237 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 17: explosive like that happen, and uh, it's not accepting you. 1238 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 9: Thanks that. Thanks, I I know I know your age music. Uh. 1239 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 5: The way that this went down to either do you 1240 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 5: say friend? The second sticking. 1241 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 17: More for you for example, I'm I mean Min's sake 1242 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 17: or of friends, like I don't uh this this, I 1243 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 17: don't have. 1244 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 9: No beef against them or anything like that. 1245 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 16: Uh. 1246 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 17: The Eagles beat us, see and he's a part of 1247 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 17: the Eagles, and that that's what it is. 1248 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,479 Speaker 9: The ninth thirty Age of You one. 1249 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 3: Albums keep losing right to lead the league in. 1250 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 14: Sacks up when the sad it's pretty rare. 1251 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,160 Speaker 9: Like you're in that spot right now. 1252 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 18: What do you what do. 1253 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 9: You make of that novel? 1254 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 4: Uh? 1255 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,640 Speaker 17: You know this, it's not just me, honestly, game plans 1256 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 17: as the dB is covering the guys outside of me 1257 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 17: rushing as well. You know, I do what I can 1258 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 17: when I can, you know, whenever I get that one 1259 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 17: on one or wherever I got to hustle to a 1260 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 17: ball or you know, effort plays. Uh, there's more than 1261 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 17: which which the numbers said that goes along. 1262 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 14: With me in sacks. 1263 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 1: That's Dexter Lawrence and uh, again just another impressive performance 1264 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 1: from him JC in terms of rushing the past or. 1265 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 1: I got to look to see whether or not he 1266 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 1: was on the field for some of those long runs 1267 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,280 Speaker 1: or not. My guess is that he probably wasn't because 1268 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 1: we know what Dexter Lawrence does against that middle But 1269 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 1: again it's a shame another five sack performance. The Giants, 1270 01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 1: Uh still lead the league in sacks. They have thirty one. 1271 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 1: He's second in the league. Well, he had seven come 1272 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 1: into this game. He is nine now, so he does 1273 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 1: lead the league in sacks. We gotta see how obviously 1274 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,320 Speaker 1: people finish with sacks today and how the week plays out. 1275 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 1: But again, just Eagles didn't have to pass. He had 1276 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 1: fourteen pass attempts, the Giants had five sacks. That's nineteen 1277 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 1: dropbacks then what may be two scrambles. So it's like 1278 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 1: a sack on almost twenty five percent of the Eagles 1279 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 1: dropbacks and you lose the game twenty eight to three. 1280 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 2: That's insanity. 1281 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 3: Usually twenty five percent is about a good pressure rate, 1282 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 3: Yes rate, not sack rate is incredible. But I saw 1283 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 3: the stat early on the TV. Giants are leading the 1284 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 3: league with thirty one sacks. But I'm sitting there like, 1285 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,439 Speaker 3: what does it even mean? What does it even mean? 1286 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 3: The Giants are sitting at two and five ohm four 1287 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,280 Speaker 3: at home, you know, giving up two hundred and seventy 1288 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 3: yards on the ground. They got tripled on offense today, 1289 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 3: the Eagles having three hundred over three hundred yards in 1290 01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,240 Speaker 3: a Giant barely getting too one hundred yards on offense, 1291 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 3: they got tripped up. What does it mean? What does 1292 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 3: it mean? 1293 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 2: It's a stat that's all, that's all it is. If 1294 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 2: it doesn't affect winning, what's the difference that's. 1295 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 3: All it is, you know. And usually when somebody's leading 1296 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 3: the league in sacks, they have one or two losses 1297 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 3: at the mid middle of the season. 1298 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 1: Because they're playing with leads, they're fourteen, they're rushing the 1299 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 1: passer in the fourth. 1300 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 3: Quarter, and that's what it usually means. But let me 1301 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 3: let me read this to you. I got this stat 1302 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 3: thrown at me today, the Giants record through eight games 1303 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 3: or halfway market a season. Then we're I think one 1304 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 3: or two games shy of that right now, seven games 1305 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 3: right twenty seventeen, which my last year planned one and seven, 1306 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 3: eighteen one and seven, twenty nineteen, two and six, twenty 1307 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,560 Speaker 3: one and seven, twenty twenty one, two and six, twenty 1308 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 3: twenty two to playoff here six and two, twenty twenty 1309 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 3: three to two and six, now two and five, and 1310 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 3: the next game is at the four and two Steelers 1311 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 3: with a very tough defense. Not looking good for. 1312 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 1: All your office, industrial and residential moving needs. 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Our 1322 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 1: pregame show on our network will begin at seven fifteen. 1323 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,840 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening us, for listening to us today, and 1324 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 2: we'll see you next week. 1325 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 1: The Giants fall to the Eagles twenty eight to three 1326 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 1: on the Wfan Giants Radio Now, but we're not done 1327 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,280 Speaker 1: right here in our flagship station WFN in New York, 1328 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 1: Jonathan Casius and Paul Detino will take you for another 1329 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 1: forty five minutes or so and take your calls at 1330 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,240 Speaker 1: eight to eight, eight oh eight, one zero one nine. 1331 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 2: And I'm sure a lot of you gone your way 1332 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:55,760 Speaker 2: home from the game in the car. We're happy to 1333 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 2: take your calls. 1334 01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 1: Here are your frustrations, and talk some Giants football with 1335 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: more sound from the locker room as well. We got 1336 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 1: Brian Burns down there, We got elite neighbors that and 1337 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:06,600 Speaker 1: a whole lot more coming your way. 1338 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:07,360 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. 1339 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 5: This is Tyrone Tracy Jr. 1340 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,880 Speaker 19: And you're listening to the radio home of Big Blue 1341 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 19: the Fan, w f A N and w f A 1342 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:23,480 Speaker 19: N FM, New York. 1343 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 5: Takes the stat geep drop under pressure, fires it down 1344 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 5: this left side and cut by a J. Brown over McCloud, 1345 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 5: and then for a touchdown, a forty one yard bomb 1346 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 5: down the left side and a J. Brown with the 1347 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,919 Speaker 5: score on a fourth at three. 1348 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 1: And that fourth and three came at the Giants forty 1349 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 1: one yard line with four point thirty four to go 1350 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,440 Speaker 1: in the second quarter, and that is our Giants turning 1351 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 1: point of the game. Listen to Boomer and go on 1352 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 1: w fa N tomorrow morning in the nine am hour 1353 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 1: for the Giants Turning Point time test. The first grant 1354 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 1: caller will to name that game's turning point will win 1355 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 1: two tickets to an upcoming Giants home game. Welcome back 1356 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,160 Speaker 1: to Giants Extra Point. John Schmelt, Johnathan Casius. We're drawn 1357 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,360 Speaker 1: by Paul Detino. We're taking your calls at eight eight 1358 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 1: eight eight oh eight one zero one nine eight eight 1359 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 1: eight eight oh eight one zero one to nine. And 1360 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 1: you know it was a rough day at the office 1361 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 1: and Paul comes up to do the postgame show, and 1362 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,520 Speaker 1: not only is the jacket off, but the tie is 1363 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 1: also off. Paul always comes to episode very well dressed, 1364 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 1: but the sleeves are old, the jackets off, and the 1365 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 1: ties off. 1366 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 2: Paul, imagine that was not a fun locker room down there. No, 1367 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 2: it was not. John a very dejected locker room. Look. 1368 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 16: I've been around a long time, and I've been through 1369 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 16: a lot of bad locker rooms over the years. This 1370 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 16: is one of those ones that qualifies as lower level. 1371 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 16: Guys were beaten down, Guys were hurting, Guys were very dejected. 1372 01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 16: You know, I appreciate the play you picked as the 1373 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:55,919 Speaker 16: turning point of the game. 1374 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 2: I do appreciate that. 1375 01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,440 Speaker 16: It seemed to me from talking to both guys on 1376 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 16: offense and on defense, they felt the turning point was 1377 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,680 Speaker 16: Johnson's touchdown getting eliminated by the penalty, because I. 1378 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 2: Can't do that when you're already down fourteen nothing. I 1379 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:10,200 Speaker 2: get it. 1380 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:14,480 Speaker 16: But the players, the players really felt that that was 1381 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,160 Speaker 16: a huge gut punch because at fourteen to seven, going 1382 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,520 Speaker 16: into the locker room with something that stemmed the tide 1383 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,040 Speaker 16: and gave them a spark both offensive and defensive players 1384 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 16: said they felt that was a very very big point. 1385 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna say something though, If that's 1386 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 1: how they feel, they need to get their minds right 1387 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 1: at halftime. If a four point difference effects you're playing 1388 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 1: the second half, that's on you. 1389 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 2: That's on you. 1390 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 1: They scored zero points in the second half, so what 1391 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 1: the difference if they lost twenty eight three or twenty 1392 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 1: eight seven. 1393 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,919 Speaker 3: Because it's it's not all about the points. You gotta 1394 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,919 Speaker 3: remember there's a lot of emotion. 1395 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 4: In this game. 1396 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,880 Speaker 2: Will You got to overcome that though, But you got over. 1397 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 3: How quiet the stands were, how quiet the stadium was. 1398 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 3: It was still you know, a rumble there, right, Remember 1399 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,880 Speaker 3: how they just roared when a touchdown was scored. And 1400 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,280 Speaker 3: where do you get a home field advantage from? How 1401 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,920 Speaker 3: is a home field advantage even the thing because of 1402 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:16,720 Speaker 3: the fans, because of the energy that's in with the stadium. 1403 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,920 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but would that have helped one that Robinson 1404 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,360 Speaker 1: catch a third and three on the Giants first places? 1405 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 3: Listen, listen, we talk about the ebb and flow of 1406 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 3: a game. Right. We talked about how good the Giants 1407 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 3: played up in Seattle. Right, the twelve wasn't a factor. 1408 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,040 Speaker 3: When the twelve is a factor, that team plays better. 1409 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 3: And you know it too, you know they do. It's 1410 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 3: a real thing. Energy here is a real thing. Energy 1411 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,960 Speaker 3: is distributed throughout the stadium. The energy is getting sucked 1412 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 3: from the fans from the field. 1413 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 16: Now, Jonathan, you know, to John's point, and again, I 1414 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,160 Speaker 16: still understand what the player said. 1415 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:54,760 Speaker 2: So you and I are on the same page here. 1416 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:59,400 Speaker 16: But to John's point, fourteen to three at halftime, Eagles 1417 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 16: go three and out with their first possession of the 1418 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 16: third quarter. And what do the Giants do. They go 1419 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,480 Speaker 16: thlawing out, give it right back to Philly, and they 1420 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:07,840 Speaker 16: go on. 1421 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,440 Speaker 1: A seventy seven yard touchdown driving not for nothing like 1422 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 1: you said this too. It's not like that scoring drive 1423 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:15,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the first half of some work 1424 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,160 Speaker 1: of heart, all right. They didn't march the ball down 1425 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,400 Speaker 1: the field, and they showed I mean, I'll look it up, 1426 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 1: how many times did you even get across. 1427 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 2: Midfield in this game? 1428 01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:25,320 Speaker 3: Twice? 1429 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,320 Speaker 2: Maybe I should have looked at it before I asked 1430 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:28,759 Speaker 2: a question. 1431 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,160 Speaker 1: I kind of meant it to be rhetorical, but it 1432 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 1: certainly wasn't enough to make you think that they could 1433 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 1: come anywhere near twenty eight points to win this game, 1434 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:36,720 Speaker 1: whether that play happened or not. 1435 01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,880 Speaker 2: Twice in the first half and once in the second half. 1436 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:45,439 Speaker 1: I think three times past midfield for a whole game. Yeah, sorry, 1437 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 1: turning a touchdown into a field goal. And and look, 1438 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:49,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate where the players are coming from. There's a 1439 01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,680 Speaker 1: motion of all the momentum. I get all that, But 1440 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,599 Speaker 1: at some point. 1441 01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:59,280 Speaker 3: You got scoring drift for the New York Giants because yeah, please, Paul, 1442 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 3: problem with that drive, you know, as the Giants are 1443 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 3: moving the ball down the field, it was a second 1444 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,840 Speaker 3: and ten and Daniel Jones scrambled to the right side 1445 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,679 Speaker 3: of the field and ran for nine yards. Right, how 1446 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,240 Speaker 3: many times have we sat here and watched Daniel Jones 1447 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,320 Speaker 3: do a play where he throws his body, you know, 1448 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 3: whether it's for the first down, going out of bounds, whatever. 1449 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,000 Speaker 3: He's a tough guy, right. All he had to do 1450 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,920 Speaker 3: to get the first down on that place smell was 1451 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,559 Speaker 3: extend his arm. I've seen countless quarterbacks do it. But 1452 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,280 Speaker 3: because he didn't do it, they had to blow a timeout. 1453 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,280 Speaker 3: They excuse me, they had to get the ball they 1454 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,439 Speaker 3: had it was thirty because it was thirty and one, 1455 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 3: so they had to run the football. They got the 1456 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,680 Speaker 3: first down, they had to blow a time out. Right. 1457 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,120 Speaker 3: A couple of plays later, Elik Neighbors catch that the 1458 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,599 Speaker 3: longest pass of the day, which is fourteen yards, turns inside. Right, 1459 01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 3: they had to blow another time out. Now they have 1460 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,120 Speaker 3: no more timeouts. Right, I expect that to happen from 1461 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 3: a rookie, not a six year quarterback that has been 1462 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,080 Speaker 3: in this situation plenty of times before. And then also 1463 01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,240 Speaker 3: the penalty that the other rookie had with the pushoff. 1464 01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:00,960 Speaker 3: Why did the Giants have to kick a field goal 1465 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,920 Speaker 3: on third down? They had no more timeouts? Like, yes, 1466 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,880 Speaker 3: it was because you know the sacks that were happening 1467 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 3: during the game, and maybe they didn't trust a quarterback. Okay, 1468 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 3: those are maybies. But the reason why because they had 1469 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 3: no timeouts? Yeah, why did they not have any timeouts? 1470 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,080 Speaker 3: Because poor execution leading up to them getting down there. 1471 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:19,800 Speaker 2: And JC, I thought you were a really good point. 1472 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,720 Speaker 1: All right, if you look at the Giants first set 1473 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,640 Speaker 1: of drives, I'm gonna go through their third downs on 1474 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:24,120 Speaker 1: these drives. 1475 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,599 Speaker 2: You looked at him earlier. I went through my one. 1476 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,280 Speaker 3: I was exaggerating a little bit. 1477 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:29,920 Speaker 1: They were about four straight ones, So no, you weren't. 1478 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,840 Speaker 1: You weren't necessarily wrong. So the Giants first third down 1479 01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,679 Speaker 1: of the game, third and three, Daniel Jones air mails 1480 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,560 Speaker 1: a pass in the flat to Wander Robinson and he 1481 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,879 Speaker 1: gets creamed the second after he gets rid of the football, 1482 01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:41,439 Speaker 1: so pest he could have completed, but again there was 1483 01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,639 Speaker 1: pass pressure on that play. The next one, third and six, 1484 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones sack minus nine yards. Next one, third and three, 1485 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:53,360 Speaker 1: Jones sack minus eleven yards. Next one, it is third 1486 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:57,519 Speaker 1: and seventeen. They have the deep pass to Wander Ramisan 1487 01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,360 Speaker 1: on the free play that gets called back because of 1488 01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,160 Speaker 1: the off sides, and then pass pressure, Daniel Jones has 1489 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 1: to scramble for two yards. And then the next one, 1490 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 1: third and eleven, Daniel Jones sacked for negative seven yards, 1491 01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,040 Speaker 1: so you literally and then the next one is the 1492 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,360 Speaker 1: third and third team a deep past the elague neighbors. 1493 01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,439 Speaker 1: That's that's that's that abounds and Jones was sacked on 1494 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,439 Speaker 1: that last. Now the next drive for negative four yards 1495 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 1: on first down, So you're looking at five consecutive drives 1496 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,439 Speaker 1: there where, and maybe it's six if you count the 1497 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,719 Speaker 1: first one where either a sack or pressure in the drive, 1498 01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 1: short circuit of a drive. 1499 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:34,160 Speaker 16: I believe there were Eagle sacks on five of the Giants' 1500 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,439 Speaker 16: first six possessions of the game, which you kind of 1501 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 16: just went through it. 1502 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,599 Speaker 1: So I just went throbs and and just to succeed 1503 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:41,040 Speaker 1: that way. 1504 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,679 Speaker 16: This is an Eagles team that had eleven sacks coming 1505 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:44,160 Speaker 16: into the game. 1506 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,160 Speaker 1: And heading into this game, Paul, somebody put a stat 1507 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,880 Speaker 1: up online during the week the Giants had not scored 1508 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 1: on a drive yet this year where they had given 1509 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:49,760 Speaker 1: up a sack. 1510 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, kidding, I didn't even realize it. 1511 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:52,800 Speaker 3: Yep. 1512 01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 1: And you know what, by the way, they weren't the 1513 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:56,920 Speaker 1: only team. There were about seven or eight other teams 1514 01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,559 Speaker 1: that had that same number. It's for hard to score 1515 01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,240 Speaker 1: on a possesion when you get sack because you're a 1516 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 1: second and seventeen second and eighteen something like that. Now, see, 1517 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 1: so for me, might have been just touchdowns. Maybe they'd 1518 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 1: a field, but definitely no touchdowns overall. 1519 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,559 Speaker 16: You know, if I had to give a past grade 1520 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,479 Speaker 16: college grade, I could not find any unit that I 1521 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 16: could give a passing grade to today. 1522 01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,360 Speaker 2: It was a team loss. This was a team. 1523 01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,439 Speaker 16: Loss every way you look at past rush, past the 1524 01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 16: pass rush yet nineteen passes. 1525 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,559 Speaker 1: But you can't separate what they did in the past 1526 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 1: rush from what they did in the run defense in 1527 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:29,560 Speaker 1: the same group player. 1528 01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,200 Speaker 2: Right right, right right, So it still becomes a negative. 1529 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:32,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, rrect. 1530 01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:34,120 Speaker 2: All right, let's get. 1531 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:35,759 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to your calls in just a second, 1532 01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 1: but let's take a quick listen to bleak neighbors. 1533 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:39,880 Speaker 2: He talked to the media in the locker room after 1534 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:40,160 Speaker 2: the game. 1535 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,160 Speaker 16: Believe a day when the offense never seemed to get 1536 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 16: any traction, how difficult is that to deal with us 1537 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:46,960 Speaker 16: the game is going on. 1538 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,040 Speaker 14: I mean it's very difficult. 1539 01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:55,240 Speaker 15: I mean, he's got job is making plays and take 1540 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,840 Speaker 15: another quarterback and John d score points. 1541 01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 14: Man a defense of the job playing your game. 1542 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,120 Speaker 15: I mean it's hard when you're going through and all, 1543 01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:03,479 Speaker 15: and they get back on the field, they are tired. 1544 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,120 Speaker 15: We got to get our defense sometime to get some readers. 1545 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,479 Speaker 15: So when they go back out there, it's they're still 1546 01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 15: playing at a high level. 1547 01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,000 Speaker 16: Was there anything about the Eagles defense, especially in the 1548 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,120 Speaker 16: first half, that they were doing differently that maybe you 1549 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 16: had not seen on film? 1550 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,240 Speaker 14: Nah, I mean nothing really different. I mean watched the target. 1551 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 14: Take that was it? I was open? 1552 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 16: Was It's another game when you didn't get the running 1553 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,160 Speaker 16: game going as an offense. And I'm sure you'll always 1554 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 16: tell us that you gotta have both cause if there's 1555 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,960 Speaker 16: no balance, it makes it real difficult on the pass. 1556 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:35,840 Speaker 15: I mean yeah, but again, that's not my job. My 1557 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,559 Speaker 15: job is to run arounds to get open and catch 1558 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:38,240 Speaker 15: the ball. 1559 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:38,479 Speaker 3: Right. 1560 01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 4: Well, how'd you feel out there first game? 1561 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 3: Back after it? 1562 01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:43,080 Speaker 16: Uh? 1563 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:44,599 Speaker 14: It felt good, but good? 1564 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,000 Speaker 10: You had four You had four catches earlier in the 1565 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,400 Speaker 10: first half, and then you didn't get twelve and the 1566 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,800 Speaker 10: second half just eight difference thans ws your house? 1567 01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:57,559 Speaker 14: Uh? Man, No, like I said, I was open. 1568 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,800 Speaker 16: I'm gonna assume that in your career, whether it was 1569 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 16: high school or college, you've never had such a slump 1570 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,160 Speaker 16: like this in terms of a team slump. 1571 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 2: Uh. 1572 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 16: How do you deal with it psychologically? 1573 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,679 Speaker 2: Knowing that you've been a winner of your whole career. 1574 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,280 Speaker 14: I mean, I ain't been on teams where I lost 1575 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,040 Speaker 14: all games in the season. 1576 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,479 Speaker 15: I mean I've been on games. I mean, we've been 1577 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,400 Speaker 15: on teams where I learned ten games. I mean, it's 1578 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,840 Speaker 15: the game is the game. I mean, I'll come in 1579 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,519 Speaker 15: the games. I'll come of games. I'll come meets going 1580 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,760 Speaker 15: out there and playing nice. How I know how to play. 1581 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,599 Speaker 15: I know how to play football. That's what I'm doing. 1582 01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,479 Speaker 16: Is there a way, like you said, you've been on 1583 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,720 Speaker 16: a team it which maybe did not do well. What 1584 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,800 Speaker 16: is the easiest way or the best way to pick 1585 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,320 Speaker 16: up the pieces after a game like this? 1586 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 2: Do you just forget it, flush it? 1587 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,680 Speaker 16: Or do you go back and do you agonize over 1588 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:44,960 Speaker 16: all the stuff that didn't go right? 1589 01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:47,720 Speaker 15: I mean, watch watch film about it, see what you 1590 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:52,799 Speaker 15: can do better? You know, like I said, just continue 1591 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,800 Speaker 15: to gu out there. Next play mentality, put the game 1592 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,040 Speaker 15: behind you, the next game up. If you just continue 1593 01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,960 Speaker 15: to think about this game gonna the next game, it 1594 01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,000 Speaker 15: can lead out to the same thing, lead out to 1595 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,400 Speaker 15: the same out. So just plush it and move on 1596 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,080 Speaker 15: to the next week. Next week is a new game, 1597 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,840 Speaker 15: Next week is a new opponent, Next week. 1598 01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,640 Speaker 14: Is a new week. Can yeah, just gotta focus on 1599 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:12,040 Speaker 14: next week. 1600 01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 2: J Before we take a quick break here. 1601 01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:20,320 Speaker 1: As a player, I know you have to, but what's 1602 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 1: the mental process for you trying to flush? I know 1603 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 1: it's just one game, but it's really two straight games 1604 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:31,920 Speaker 1: with through the offense of scoring twice the Giants down 1605 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,360 Speaker 1: with one offensive touchdown and sixteen quarters at home this season, 1606 01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,479 Speaker 1: by the way, ten points in the last two games. 1607 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:41,000 Speaker 1: How do you move past that and not let your 1608 01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 1: past failures affect your future performance, specifically of the offense 1609 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:45,759 Speaker 1: in the skit. 1610 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,599 Speaker 3: That's a good question. You know, I've been on part 1611 01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,320 Speaker 3: of defenses that just gave up a lot of points 1612 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,000 Speaker 3: and get back down to fundamentals. You know, I talked 1613 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 3: about it earlier. Blocking and tackling, you know, for defense, 1614 01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,720 Speaker 3: you know, work on our tackling because most of the 1615 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,519 Speaker 3: time when you have you know, lopsided scores, when the 1616 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,080 Speaker 3: defense gives up two in then of something rushing yards 1617 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,840 Speaker 3: you know, four hundred total yards or whatever the case is, 1618 01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,040 Speaker 3: most of the time it comes down to tackling and 1619 01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,400 Speaker 3: not getting off of blocks vice versa. On the offensive 1620 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,799 Speaker 3: side of the ball, what are we doing? Are we blocking? 1621 01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 3: Are we blocking efficiently? Are we running? You know, the 1622 01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,880 Speaker 3: right plays against the right looks? On defense? Am I 1623 01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:26,240 Speaker 3: personally giving my one hundred and ten percent because there's 1624 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,000 Speaker 3: a difference between one hundred percent and one hundred and 1625 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,320 Speaker 3: ten percent. Everybody goes out there and gives most of 1626 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,680 Speaker 3: the time one hundred percent, But then there's always a 1627 01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,920 Speaker 3: little bit extra that you can give on every single play. 1628 01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,280 Speaker 3: Right when the plays run like a run play is 1629 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,599 Speaker 3: run against you, away from you, excuse me and your 1630 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 3: eliite neighbors and your backside. Are you blocking that cornerback 1631 01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,880 Speaker 3: as hard as you can, longer than. 1632 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,519 Speaker 1: You even think you're supposed to and against you're running 1633 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:51,080 Speaker 1: You aren't seeing on the leaku, You're. 1634 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:58,280 Speaker 3: Just getting wear audio to make sure you're just seeing shoes? Right? 1635 01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,639 Speaker 3: Am I blocking him as much as I possibly can? 1636 01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 3: Or am I trying to block him as long as 1637 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,559 Speaker 3: possible until I hear that whistle? Because you never know 1638 01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,639 Speaker 3: what that running back is doing. You never know when 1639 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,919 Speaker 3: he's gonna cut it back and come to your side. 1640 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,559 Speaker 3: And I'm talking about like just trying to go the 1641 01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,639 Speaker 3: extra mile, not doing anything outside of what you're supposed 1642 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,439 Speaker 3: to do, but doing your job and then some. And 1643 01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,439 Speaker 3: that's what I don't think we're seeing from the Giants. 1644 01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,320 Speaker 3: That's why I think when you look at the two 1645 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,400 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy yards, it's not one person missing the tackle, 1646 01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:32,599 Speaker 3: it's several people staying engaged in blocks. And you can 1647 01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,360 Speaker 3: look you can look at the offensive side of the ball. 1648 01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,839 Speaker 3: Are the offensive linemen doing the things that they're supposed 1649 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,200 Speaker 3: to do consistently? Are they doing more well? 1650 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,479 Speaker 2: I'll give me an example, gott I give you. 1651 01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,400 Speaker 1: Let me see if this applies to what you're talking 1652 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,479 Speaker 1: about here. There was a play in the first half. 1653 01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,719 Speaker 1: It wasn't the first sack on the Nagobe team blitz. 1654 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,719 Speaker 1: I believe it was the second n Kobe Dean blitz 1655 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,679 Speaker 1: that wind up in the sack and Devin Singletary cuts him. 1656 01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:53,960 Speaker 1: He gets him on the round. Yes, but then na 1657 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,240 Speaker 1: Kobe Dean gets back up. Yes, after Illuminari pressures along 1658 01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,200 Speaker 1: the from the left side, right side of the offensive 1659 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,320 Speaker 1: my left side of the defense, he has to step up. 1660 01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,640 Speaker 1: Nikobe Didan gets back up. It makes the play. Is 1661 01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,440 Speaker 1: that the type of thing that's exactly. 1662 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,120 Speaker 3: What I'm talking about, You literally just going as hard 1663 01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,240 Speaker 3: as you possibly can and then trying to do a 1664 01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:13,000 Speaker 3: little bit more because that's what it takes out there 1665 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,760 Speaker 3: to win games. As you can clearly see, it's so 1666 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,360 Speaker 3: hard to win games in the NFL. The Giants are 1667 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,800 Speaker 3: making it a lot more difficult for sure at home, 1668 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 3: being on for looking like the way they look, they 1669 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,760 Speaker 3: look like a totally different team at home. You look 1670 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,880 Speaker 3: at the Seattle game, what they did up there. That 1671 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:32,720 Speaker 3: looked like a very functional, well rounded, complimentary football team 1672 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,439 Speaker 3: where the special teams came to win a game at 1673 01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,880 Speaker 3: the end football team right, And then you looked at 1674 01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,759 Speaker 3: how these games go. They're not even giving themselves a chance. 1675 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,680 Speaker 3: The game was over. Like Bob Pappa said, at the 1676 01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,960 Speaker 3: beginning of the third quarter, the game was over. The 1677 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,679 Speaker 3: fans were gone. By the beginning the fourth, the game 1678 01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:49,000 Speaker 3: was over. 1679 01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:53,480 Speaker 16: Okay, I've got the simple solution for the Giants, sputtering. 1680 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:54,280 Speaker 3: You offense simple. 1681 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,360 Speaker 16: After the Yankees win the series, they loaned Gio Carlos 1682 01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:58,719 Speaker 16: Stanton to the Giants. 1683 01:18:59,080 --> 01:18:59,920 Speaker 2: Where are you putting them at? 1684 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:00,479 Speaker 5: Okay? 1685 01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:05,680 Speaker 16: He can play anywhere that he wants to. Okay, if 1686 01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,439 Speaker 16: you've seen him, he's a big man. Anywhere that he 1687 01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:12,080 Speaker 16: wants to. He can generate some offense, Gia Carlos Stanton. 1688 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:13,360 Speaker 1: As long as you don't need to run anywhere. I 1689 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:17,120 Speaker 1: would advise against that good idea. The run I Think 1690 01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,439 Speaker 1: You're Okay. Giants TV, presented by Bob's Discut Furniture, is 1691 01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,080 Speaker 1: the official connected TV app at the Giants, available for 1692 01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,680 Speaker 1: free now on Apple TV, Roku, Amazon Fire TV, and 1693 01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,880 Speaker 1: inside the Giants Mobile app stream game highlights, interviews, TV shows, 1694 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,240 Speaker 1: and more exclusive video content with Giants TV. 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He'll lead us off today. Eric. 1719 01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:29,639 Speaker 2: What's going on, Buddy? 1720 01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:31,720 Speaker 20: How you doing? 1721 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,559 Speaker 18: Jsp Dot and Schmelk? 1722 01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,960 Speaker 20: Who glad to be on with you guys? 1723 01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:36,439 Speaker 2: What's up? 1724 01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:41,080 Speaker 20: Buddy? Was wish he was under better circumstances. I left. 1725 01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,760 Speaker 20: I'm a season ticket holder here section two O six, 1726 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,800 Speaker 20: and I gotta tell you boys, you know, Popping and 1727 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,200 Speaker 20: Banks has been talking about it, and you guys as well, 1728 01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,720 Speaker 20: it's just so demoralizing to just keep showing up for 1729 01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:59,080 Speaker 20: this team year after year. Obviously, you know, jac said 1730 01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,120 Speaker 20: the one good year we have was his last year 1731 01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,639 Speaker 20: here at sixteen. I believe, and I mean, it's just. 1732 01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,360 Speaker 18: Been miserable, and you know, it's tough to be a. 1733 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,200 Speaker 20: Fan and go there and watch that week after week 1734 01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:11,439 Speaker 20: and show up. And I got to tell you guys, 1735 01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:15,160 Speaker 20: you know in my section, you know, filled with Eagles fans, 1736 01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,960 Speaker 20: and you know, just some of the guys that show 1737 01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,160 Speaker 20: up every week not showing up, not being there to 1738 01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,600 Speaker 20: support the team because everybody's just tired of watching this 1739 01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:28,320 Speaker 20: it takes the heart out of us. You know, you 1740 01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,960 Speaker 20: come in for a season, you got good energy, and 1741 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,920 Speaker 20: then look at what they put on the field. 1742 01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,599 Speaker 18: How are we supposed to keep you know, doing that? 1743 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,880 Speaker 18: And then if I could ask you guys one question 1744 01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:39,240 Speaker 18: about before the end of the half. 1745 01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:41,200 Speaker 20: You know, it's like third. 1746 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,880 Speaker 18: And whatever, ten or twelve, and there's nine seconds or 1747 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,559 Speaker 18: whatever there is left and instead of even trying to 1748 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,760 Speaker 18: throw a fade or a plow up from a leak, 1749 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,120 Speaker 18: we just kicked the three and you could see it. 1750 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,920 Speaker 18: The other teams know, they don't even they don't even 1751 01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,600 Speaker 18: care going forward and I going fourth and three or 1752 01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:03,519 Speaker 18: fourth and five, fourth and two, and they're barely across 1753 01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:06,400 Speaker 18: the midfield because they're not even. I mean, it's just 1754 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:07,680 Speaker 18: tough to be a. 1755 01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,840 Speaker 20: Giant fan and keep trying to come and support them, 1756 01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,320 Speaker 20: and this is the product they put on the field. 1757 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,240 Speaker 16: Eric, let me ask you a question because you said 1758 01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,640 Speaker 16: you were here into the third quarter before. 1759 01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:23,880 Speaker 2: You left, Yes, sir, Yes, you're glad. Yeah. 1760 01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:27,000 Speaker 16: So my question for you is, Eric, when they pulled 1761 01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,840 Speaker 16: the Johnson touchdown off the board to that point, did 1762 01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,400 Speaker 16: you feel the crowd was still in the game, because 1763 01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,840 Speaker 16: it sounded like to me and Jonathan up here in 1764 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:39,479 Speaker 16: the box that when Johnson scored the touchdown, you guys 1765 01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,760 Speaker 16: were lit and it sounded like you were trying to 1766 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,080 Speaker 16: spark the team again. And then when they pulled that 1767 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,080 Speaker 16: touchdown away. As I talked to guys in the locker room, 1768 01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,400 Speaker 16: they felt that was a gut punch. Did you sense 1769 01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:50,679 Speaker 16: the same thing in the stadium. 1770 01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,920 Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean definitely, And like I told you, like, 1771 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,400 Speaker 20: it's just that we have no resiliency as a group, 1772 01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,519 Speaker 20: as a as a fandom. It's like we have the energy, 1773 01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,400 Speaker 20: and then as soon as it turns a little it's 1774 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,200 Speaker 20: very hard to get everybody back in to the game. 1775 01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:10,040 Speaker 20: And I feel like the Nick when A J. Brown 1776 01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,280 Speaker 20: caught the touchdown over Nick McCleod, you don't even look 1777 01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:14,479 Speaker 20: back to try and make him play. 1778 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:18,240 Speaker 18: I feel like that was when like the heart went out. 1779 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:19,720 Speaker 20: Of the fandom a little bit. I know that was 1780 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,280 Speaker 20: a little earlier maybe than that, but that was. 1781 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,360 Speaker 18: I feel, Yeah, that's when I feel like we just like, oh. 1782 01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,479 Speaker 20: Here we go again, you know, here we go again. 1783 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,519 Speaker 20: And then it's almost like that penalty, even though I 1784 01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:35,240 Speaker 20: didn't feel like that was a warranted one, nevertheless, you know. Yeah, 1785 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,120 Speaker 20: that's just like, oh, here we go. 1786 01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,519 Speaker 18: We can't get out of our own way, can't catch 1787 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,720 Speaker 18: a third down pass to save our lives Slayton o Wandale. 1788 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,320 Speaker 18: You know, DJ just doesn't seem like he's going through 1789 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:46,679 Speaker 18: the reads. 1790 01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,479 Speaker 20: He gets those happy feet. I mean, he was under 1791 01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,360 Speaker 20: the rest today. You know, can't take that away. But 1792 01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:53,559 Speaker 20: it's just tough to watch. Man. 1793 01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:55,719 Speaker 18: I've been watching football a long time. I'll be forty 1794 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,400 Speaker 18: nine years old this this month. I'm a coach for 1795 01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,280 Speaker 18: flag football, and it's just tough to watch this man. 1796 01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,960 Speaker 20: For professional athletes to go out there and we get 1797 01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,679 Speaker 20: the week, put this type of performance on the field 1798 01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,240 Speaker 20: for the whole crowd, I. 1799 01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:12,679 Speaker 18: Mean, it's just tough. 1800 01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,200 Speaker 1: Now, Eric, look, first of all, appreciate the call, and 1801 01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,320 Speaker 1: I know the Mare and Tish families. Appreciate your season 1802 01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,880 Speaker 1: ticket membership, your loyalty, and the fact that you all 1803 01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:23,800 Speaker 1: still coming to the game. You're still rooting the team on. 1804 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:25,679 Speaker 1: And we brought this up early in the postgame show 1805 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:29,799 Speaker 1: last week against the Bengals. This week against the Eagles, 1806 01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:32,679 Speaker 1: the fans hung in the game. They were not booing early, 1807 01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,320 Speaker 1: They did not turn on the team. They were waiting 1808 01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,920 Speaker 1: to get something to be excited about, and the team 1809 01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 1: was just not able to deliver it. And look, now 1810 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:43,880 Speaker 1: play at the end of the half that you brought up. 1811 01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,599 Speaker 1: They tried to do it on the third down previously 1812 01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,280 Speaker 1: when they were I believe, fourteen seconds to go, and 1813 01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,880 Speaker 1: then they end up having the touchdown nullified. You're down 1814 01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,920 Speaker 1: to nine seconds, and I think they just felt at 1815 01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,439 Speaker 1: third and fourteen from the twenty, you can't just throw 1816 01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,599 Speaker 1: a simple face there because you're too far down the field. 1817 01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:03,040 Speaker 1: You can't just snat the ball and throw a fade. 1818 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,000 Speaker 1: Receivers gotta get to the end zone. You gotta give 1819 01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:06,559 Speaker 1: him a good three seconds to get to the end zone. 1820 01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:08,519 Speaker 1: And if you get a sack because you have to 1821 01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,639 Speaker 1: hold the ball a little bit longer, an intentional grounding 1822 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,599 Speaker 1: penalty and offensive penalty. Even you can have a runoff, 1823 01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:15,479 Speaker 1: right if you have a false start, you have to 1824 01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,920 Speaker 1: run ten seconds off the clock. You can you have 1825 01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:22,240 Speaker 1: all these possible things in that situation. I guess if 1826 01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,639 Speaker 1: the clock was stopped before the play, you wouldn't necessarily 1827 01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,720 Speaker 1: have a runoff in that situation. But more things can 1828 01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,200 Speaker 1: go wrong with nine seconds and to twenty than at 1829 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,479 Speaker 1: third and four from the ten with fourteen seconds. 1830 01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,160 Speaker 2: So I understand that decision. 1831 01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:38,160 Speaker 1: But look, guys, I'm not gonna speak for you, but 1832 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,080 Speaker 1: I can't sit here and try to convince Eric that 1833 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,479 Speaker 1: his points are wrong. After watching the last two weeks 1834 01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,280 Speaker 1: when they score ten points two games. 1835 01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,000 Speaker 3: His points are not wrong. And you look at the 1836 01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:53,320 Speaker 3: reason why they did it was because of what's been happening. 1837 01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,720 Speaker 3: It's not like, oh man, this is the best thing 1838 01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:59,639 Speaker 3: that works with no evidence to support that. They have evidence. 1839 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,000 Speaker 3: You just said the points that all the things that 1840 01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,960 Speaker 3: could happen, that could go wrong, those are the things 1841 01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,120 Speaker 3: that have gone wrong. We've seen that happen to this 1842 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:11,599 Speaker 3: offense here at MetLife. So I'm sitting here questioning why 1843 01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,439 Speaker 3: they didn't like you know what Bob Papa said. He 1844 01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,200 Speaker 3: was like, what did you want to get it sacked again? 1845 01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,120 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh yeah, I mean that probably 1846 01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,519 Speaker 3: would have happened, you know, which is sad to say, 1847 01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,880 Speaker 3: but that's what we're all seeing here, you know. And 1848 01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,040 Speaker 3: I talk about the fans all time, right, Paul, Like, Paul, 1849 01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,439 Speaker 3: I don't hear any booing, Like I'm sitting here at 1850 01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,320 Speaker 3: third quarter. I'm sitting there like I don't hear no booing. Listen, 1851 01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,160 Speaker 3: I played here, I've heard booze. I've played here with 1852 01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,400 Speaker 3: booze to me and maybe not me personally, but to 1853 01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:36,800 Speaker 3: the defense. 1854 01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,760 Speaker 2: And last year we heard a lot of boosts, right yeah. 1855 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:44,599 Speaker 3: And it's like they're still hopeful because they're like, all right, guys, 1856 01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:48,320 Speaker 3: let's try to support this team as much as we possibly. 1857 01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:50,240 Speaker 1: Can, because this team is flashed hope, right yeah. They 1858 01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,439 Speaker 1: lost close games early in the year. Even the home 1859 01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,439 Speaker 1: game Agans Dallas was at least a close game. They 1860 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,120 Speaker 1: have a big win in Seattle. This team has given 1861 01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,280 Speaker 1: the fan base reason to think, all right, they win 1862 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,360 Speaker 1: a game like this, they can come back. They've shown 1863 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,120 Speaker 1: flashes here or there. Last year's team, with all the injuries, 1864 01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,040 Speaker 1: it fell apart early. It was ugly in a lot 1865 01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:10,000 Speaker 1: of games. You didn't have that sense. This year, the 1866 01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,000 Speaker 1: fans have that sense, but they just have not been 1867 01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:13,960 Speaker 1: able to deliver, especially at home. 1868 01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:15,120 Speaker 3: It's hard. It's hard. 1869 01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,840 Speaker 1: Eighth eight, one zero, one to nine. Let's go to 1870 01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:18,880 Speaker 1: Harvey and Dix Hills. 1871 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:19,360 Speaker 2: He's up next. 1872 01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,519 Speaker 21: Hi, Harvey, Hi, how are you all? Just before you 1873 01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,479 Speaker 21: said it, you know, a team has made out of units, 1874 01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,360 Speaker 21: but they win and loses the team. But I want 1875 01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,800 Speaker 21: to concentrate on the defense. Your opinions. You know week 1876 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,280 Speaker 21: Moderndale came to the Giants last year from the Ravens 1877 01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,639 Speaker 21: with a reputation. Actually he blitzed about thirty to fifty 1878 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,840 Speaker 21: percent of the time come to the Giants, and on 1879 01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:44,799 Speaker 21: the post game show, I called it the musical chairs defense, 1880 01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:49,000 Speaker 21: the element of surprise defense. And the question is, Shane 1881 01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:52,599 Speaker 21: Bowen comes from Indianapolis with no reputation for blitzing, and. 1882 01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:53,880 Speaker 2: I think Tennessee tenness. 1883 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,799 Speaker 21: Do you think the Giants are not blitzing enough, blitzing 1884 01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,320 Speaker 21: too much? Or should or what is your opinion about that? 1885 01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:04,120 Speaker 1: Last week the Giants allowed seventeen points of the best 1886 01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,800 Speaker 1: passing offense, one of the best passing offenses. 1887 01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:07,880 Speaker 2: In football this year. 1888 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,400 Speaker 1: This week they allowed they forced rather Jalen Hurst to 1889 01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,800 Speaker 1: complete only ten passes for one hundred and fourteen yards. Now, 1890 01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,800 Speaker 1: the run defense wasn't good enough, no question about it. 1891 01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't think their success or failure. And in Jason, 1892 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:19,320 Speaker 1: I want to get your take on this two as 1893 01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,080 Speaker 1: the defensive guy here on the panel. Anything to do 1894 01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 1: with the lack of blitzing, yes, go ahead. 1895 01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:24,559 Speaker 2: What's Ard. 1896 01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:25,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1897 01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,120 Speaker 21: Yeah, my football coach told us, More told me once 1898 01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:30,880 Speaker 21: that if you have to blitz, you're in trouble. Yeah, 1899 01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:34,519 Speaker 21: blitzing exactly the situation I think in general. 1900 01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:36,680 Speaker 1: No, but I think you made a good point. If 1901 01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,519 Speaker 1: you can get home with four guys, the Giants lead. 1902 01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:40,320 Speaker 2: The league in sacks. 1903 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,559 Speaker 1: If you can lead the league in sacks without blitzing 1904 01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:45,519 Speaker 1: a lot, you shouldn't blitz a lot. 1905 01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,360 Speaker 2: You're leading the league in sacks without blitzing. That's not 1906 01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:49,960 Speaker 2: the problem, not the problem. 1907 01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,960 Speaker 3: And I don't fully agree with you call her because 1908 01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,839 Speaker 3: you know some guys schematically, their scheme is to blitz 1909 01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,000 Speaker 3: in certain situations, whether it's first and ten, to run blitzing, 1910 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,160 Speaker 3: third and long. They're past blitzing. You know Steve Spagnola, right, 1911 01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:06,120 Speaker 3: Steve Spagnola has this play called Storm, and it's like 1912 01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,880 Speaker 3: a got to have it play. Everybody's blitzing, and you'll 1913 01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,680 Speaker 3: take the back if he releases, you'll take the tight end. 1914 01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,160 Speaker 3: He releases your jam, the tight end. Whatever the case is, 1915 01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:16,120 Speaker 3: it's his go to blitz. He's still running that play 1916 01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:19,320 Speaker 3: in Kansas City. He's running his entire career the firehouse 1917 01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,680 Speaker 3: blitcher till everybody comes, everybody blitzes and it's an all 1918 01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:24,840 Speaker 3: or nothing type of play. He's either gonna be a 1919 01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,559 Speaker 3: second completion or it's gonna be probably a deep pass 1920 01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,360 Speaker 3: down the sideline because that's one on one coverage, you know, 1921 01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,680 Speaker 3: And we've been you know, we've been living like that. 1922 01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:35,400 Speaker 3: And it's not always about if you have to blitz, 1923 01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,839 Speaker 3: because I don't think the Giants are in a situation 1924 01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,360 Speaker 3: where they feel like their pass rush is not good enough, 1925 01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,439 Speaker 3: because that is not the case at all. The pass 1926 01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,200 Speaker 3: rush is good enough to hold it down. The question 1927 01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:47,840 Speaker 3: is can they play complimentary football? Can they stop the 1928 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:49,960 Speaker 3: run when they need to. That's what they haven't done. 1929 01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:50,320 Speaker 4: You know. 1930 01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,479 Speaker 3: We talk about being a physical presence, a physical presence. Yes, 1931 01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:55,400 Speaker 3: it's hit the quarterback and stuff like that, But when 1932 01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:57,360 Speaker 3: when the team looks at you and says, you know what, 1933 01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,080 Speaker 3: we're not even gonna throw the football, We're gonna run. 1934 01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,040 Speaker 1: By the way, that's the opposite of what the last 1935 01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:04,640 Speaker 1: of your opponents did. The Bengals, the Seahawks, and the Cowboys. 1936 01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:06,519 Speaker 1: None of those three teams want to run the football. 1937 01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,760 Speaker 1: They were all passing teams, right, I. 1938 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:13,200 Speaker 16: Think Unfortunately for the Giants, and sometimes this happens the 1939 01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:17,559 Speaker 16: offense catches the defense and just the right play. And 1940 01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,640 Speaker 16: I'll give you a good example. And I didn't go 1941 01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,920 Speaker 16: back obviously and look at the twenty two for this game. 1942 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:26,400 Speaker 16: So I'm gonna use an example from Cincinnati when Joe 1943 01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,160 Speaker 16: Burrow scrambled for forty seven yards on that touchdown. 1944 01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:33,040 Speaker 2: Okay, Giants were caught in a man of man. 1945 01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,000 Speaker 16: Shane Bowen said this week he knew they had the 1946 01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:39,000 Speaker 16: wrong defensive call as soon as the play was executed. 1947 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:40,800 Speaker 2: He's like, that was my bad. I had the wrong call. 1948 01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:43,080 Speaker 2: They had a man of man. 1949 01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,599 Speaker 16: The Bengals overloaded one side of the field like it's 1950 01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:47,920 Speaker 16: a basketball clearout. 1951 01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,320 Speaker 2: In the NBA, there's an isolation play, it's a clearout. 1952 01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:55,320 Speaker 16: It's like, okay, in basketball, Michael Jordan's got at the 1953 01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,000 Speaker 16: top of the key. You're clearing out one side of 1954 01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,640 Speaker 16: the court and he's just gonna do it. 1955 01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:00,519 Speaker 2: Well, that's what happened with you, Joe Burrow. 1956 01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:05,200 Speaker 16: Sometimes the offense just catches you in the perfect storm 1957 01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:10,519 Speaker 16: and you'll get burned. It does happen. That's some of 1958 01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,640 Speaker 16: what's going on with the Giants, but not all of it. 1959 01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,439 Speaker 16: I'm not going to blame it all on circumstance, but 1960 01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:19,200 Speaker 16: they have definitely been burned on occasion throughout the last 1961 01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,920 Speaker 16: couple of weeks of plays that were just the right 1962 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:24,200 Speaker 16: call in the right time. 1963 01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I will say this, you can't give up 1964 01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:28,120 Speaker 2: four plays of thirty eight. No, No, I can't. 1965 01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:29,800 Speaker 1: Whether it's the play call or not, you can't give 1966 01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,280 Speaker 1: up four plays of thirty eight. Understood, All right, let's 1967 01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:33,920 Speaker 1: go to Cliffe Manhattan. He's up nextn Cliff. 1968 01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:35,840 Speaker 20: Yeah. 1969 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:40,000 Speaker 13: Obviously a lot of frustration today, but I'm thinking, you know, 1970 01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:44,200 Speaker 13: the overall picture, I hope Saquan's performance doesn't cause fans 1971 01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,320 Speaker 13: to call this week complaining that he should still be 1972 01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:49,880 Speaker 13: on the team. That was everything happened exactly right with 1973 01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:55,000 Speaker 13: that as far as I'm concerned. Well, he didn't want 1974 01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:56,760 Speaker 13: to be here. He didn't want to be here last 1975 01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:00,840 Speaker 13: year either, and you know, God bless him for having 1976 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,120 Speaker 13: whatever life he can have, and he's no guarantee to 1977 01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,840 Speaker 13: go all the way to the top where he went. Meanwhile, 1978 01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,200 Speaker 13: we've got trenches, you know, we've got offensive line and 1979 01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:15,040 Speaker 13: defensive line. Obviously, they could afford to lose my Latta 1980 01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:17,720 Speaker 13: a lot more than we could afford to lose Andrew. 1981 01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:22,160 Speaker 2: We apparently, yeah, apparently. 1982 01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,120 Speaker 13: And Jalen Carter John, you were asking during the week, 1983 01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,400 Speaker 13: hopefully he won't have one of his better games. Well 1984 01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:27,840 Speaker 13: he did. 1985 01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:33,760 Speaker 1: And Cliff, here's the thing, really quick, just real quick. 1986 01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,320 Speaker 1: I think the Eagles pass protection was terrible in this game. 1987 01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:39,040 Speaker 4: It was. 1988 01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:39,720 Speaker 2: It wasn't good. 1989 01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:41,800 Speaker 1: But they only to throw the ball fourteen times because 1990 01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,479 Speaker 1: they ran it for two hundred yards, So we never 1991 01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,760 Speaker 1: got to see how bad this Eagles pass protection unit. 1992 01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:49,400 Speaker 1: And they lost with Kai Beck into the game too, 1993 01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:52,519 Speaker 1: could have been without their left tackle because the Giants 1994 01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:55,639 Speaker 1: couldn't force them to throw because they could not stop 1995 01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:56,080 Speaker 1: the run. 1996 01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:57,559 Speaker 2: That was my problem. 1997 01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:00,840 Speaker 13: I think that's where the complimentary football comes in, with 1998 01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:04,760 Speaker 13: the offense not being able to do anything, and it 1999 01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:11,400 Speaker 13: just helps a lot. Listen watching silently here. The Rock 2000 01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:13,679 Speaker 13: Purty was having a terrible time in the first half 2001 01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,160 Speaker 13: the bat. You know what the Chiefs defensive line is like. 2002 01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:20,360 Speaker 13: They batted his passes down twice, and finally he gets 2003 01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,799 Speaker 13: in a third and two and he throws the perfect 2004 01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:26,559 Speaker 13: pass fifteen yards down the field to none other than 2005 01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,960 Speaker 13: Brandon Ayuk and he's got two steps on his man 2006 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:33,040 Speaker 13: and he drops the ball. So you know, there's something 2007 01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:36,639 Speaker 13: about the overall performance of the whole unit that affects 2008 01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:39,640 Speaker 13: every individual player. But I want to get back to 2009 01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:46,240 Speaker 13: the trenches. Man. We've drafted three offensive linemen in three drafts, 2010 01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,960 Speaker 13: and you know they're all We haven't given up on 2011 01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:55,800 Speaker 13: any of them yet. The one in the center is 2012 01:33:55,840 --> 01:34:01,920 Speaker 13: still looking good, but maybe today not so good. What 2013 01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,400 Speaker 13: I'm trying to get at is the superiority of the 2014 01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:09,240 Speaker 13: Eagles roster, which was so evident that last game two 2015 01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:13,960 Speaker 13: years ago. We definitely did close the gap, but still 2016 01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:16,160 Speaker 13: not that much on the O L and the d L. 2017 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,839 Speaker 1: Now, Cliff, Now, Cliff, Cliff, you're right and and appreciate 2018 01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:20,200 Speaker 1: the call. 2019 01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:22,400 Speaker 2: And Cliff, I think you bring up a good point. 2020 01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,000 Speaker 1: And we'll get the Brian Bards in the locker room 2021 01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,200 Speaker 1: tubcause he's part of this conversation. And Paul, we've made 2022 01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:29,360 Speaker 1: this point many times in previous years, especially in these 2023 01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,880 Speaker 1: matchups against the Cowboys and the Eagles. The Giants always 2024 01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,799 Speaker 1: at a huge disadvantage upfront on offense and defense. 2025 01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:36,839 Speaker 2: They would get destroyed in those situations. 2026 01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,960 Speaker 1: Yes, but so far this year they had held their 2027 01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:42,000 Speaker 1: own in the trenches for the most part. 2028 01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:42,439 Speaker 3: Yes. 2029 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,960 Speaker 2: Now, first, two games, the rush defense not where you 2030 01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:46,479 Speaker 2: want it to be. But last three weason look better. 2031 01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:48,200 Speaker 1: But again maybe that maybe it's the opponent when we 2032 01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:49,960 Speaker 1: look back, and it's not the who knows, we'll see. 2033 01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:54,840 Speaker 2: But today they lost in the trenches to the Philadelphia Eagles. 2034 01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:58,760 Speaker 16: And when you lose in the trenches, you cripple your 2035 01:34:58,840 --> 01:34:59,920 Speaker 16: chances at winning the game. 2036 01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:03,960 Speaker 3: Doesn't So the four touchdown drives at the Philadelphia Eagles had. 2037 01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,720 Speaker 3: Each single touchdown drive had a play of over thirty 2038 01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:09,880 Speaker 3: eight every single one of them. 2039 01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,439 Speaker 2: So all they did one of those plays on each 2040 01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:12,720 Speaker 2: one of. 2041 01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:14,680 Speaker 3: The every drives. You gotta think the first touchdown drive 2042 01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:15,920 Speaker 3: was a fifty five yard touchdown. 2043 01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:16,760 Speaker 2: What do I always say this? 2044 01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:18,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, big plays win games. 2045 01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:21,520 Speaker 2: Big store touchdowns, touchdowns win games. 2046 01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:25,080 Speaker 3: The second drive was the forty one yard touchdown, and 2047 01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:31,320 Speaker 3: then the third drive was the. 2048 01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:32,000 Speaker 2: Barkley thirty one year yard run maybe something like that. 2049 01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,280 Speaker 3: It was the which one was that one? 2050 01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:34,800 Speaker 2: Seven? 2051 01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:38,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? It was a forty That was the second one, sorry, 2052 01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,880 Speaker 3: the thirty eight yard run uh yep, yep, yep. And 2053 01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,599 Speaker 3: then the last one was the Barky long one run yep, 2054 01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,839 Speaker 3: forty one yard run up the middle. Every single touchdown 2055 01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:52,320 Speaker 3: drive was a playoff over thirty five. 2056 01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:56,720 Speaker 1: Play score touchdowns, touchdowns win games. 2057 01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,960 Speaker 16: And on the flip side of that, the Eagles had 2058 01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:02,439 Speaker 16: seven drives of twenty five yards or less. 2059 01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:06,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that usually was probably a sack or something 2060 01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:06,479 Speaker 3: that happened. 2061 01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:08,479 Speaker 2: I'm sure that was part of most of them. 2062 01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,800 Speaker 1: So in other words, when they did not get a 2063 01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,240 Speaker 1: big play, they did not score a touchdown exactly all right, 2064 01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:15,439 Speaker 1: before we take a quick break, here's Brian Burns downstairs 2065 01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:16,000 Speaker 1: after the game. 2066 01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:17,439 Speaker 3: They didn't need to. 2067 01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,280 Speaker 10: Throw the ball in the second half that they almost 2068 01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,080 Speaker 10: feel like they let him off the hug because you know, 2069 01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:26,120 Speaker 10: you guys couldn't score, so happy you guys couldn't patch up. 2070 01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:31,479 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that goes part with them staying on course. 2071 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:32,920 Speaker 4: You know, in the second half they had. 2072 01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,960 Speaker 3: A decent need if you if. 2073 01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,640 Speaker 14: You know, like one of our strongs is out du 2074 01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:39,520 Speaker 14: line wide. 2075 01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,360 Speaker 4: Let them behind so and then also, like I said, 2076 01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:42,919 Speaker 4: they smell. 2077 01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:43,280 Speaker 9: Of blood in the water. 2078 01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,960 Speaker 19: Take one hit, a couple of runs due two hours 2079 01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:47,080 Speaker 19: undisciplined U. 2080 01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:53,240 Speaker 4: Mistakes. I guess man stuck with penalty at the end 2081 01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:53,400 Speaker 4: of the. 2082 01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:56,320 Speaker 16: First half, takes one of your offense's touchdowns off the 2083 01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:58,720 Speaker 16: board and you're gonna still for a field goal. How 2084 01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:01,639 Speaker 16: critical was that as to go to choler Flator for your. 2085 01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:02,479 Speaker 9: Team, super? 2086 01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:05,240 Speaker 19: I mean I feel like that could have you know, 2087 01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:07,680 Speaker 19: gadble some energy, gave us some momentum back. 2088 01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:11,080 Speaker 9: You know, Yeah, I see, I see that the tall 2089 01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:12,960 Speaker 9: but you know made them a little bias. 2090 01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:16,439 Speaker 10: Did Do you think they could walk your guys, you 2091 01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:17,880 Speaker 10: know with the lizard game us straight up? 2092 01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:19,599 Speaker 9: Yeah, they need get to if they needed to throw 2093 01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:21,040 Speaker 9: the ball thirty for thirty five times. 2094 01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:25,479 Speaker 5: M sure, Frank will be a you know, just flushing 2095 01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:27,680 Speaker 5: this loss and rebuilding the confidence. 2096 01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,280 Speaker 20: That you have that it takes to go over next week. 2097 01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:32,920 Speaker 5: As pretty much as haven't ever let this mindset. 2098 01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:35,679 Speaker 9: You know, we got a game Monday night versus the Steelers, 2099 01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:37,080 Speaker 9: and uh, let us. 2100 01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:41,519 Speaker 19: Have the big game, another opportunity to you know, put 2101 01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:43,040 Speaker 19: the league on notice or and. 2102 01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:44,640 Speaker 3: Really just do our part. You know. 2103 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:48,759 Speaker 16: So how confident are you, you know, to make stuping 2104 01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:50,240 Speaker 16: that you guys can still turn things around. 2105 01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:52,880 Speaker 19: Yeah, it's a long since I've been around long enough 2106 01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:59,479 Speaker 19: to see crazy things happened, and you know, you know 2107 01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:01,599 Speaker 19: how I'd be a you know. 2108 01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:03,840 Speaker 9: There's always ups and downs and there's always seen that 2109 01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:04,800 Speaker 9: go Onlong six. 2110 01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:06,880 Speaker 2: You know, we're just John round our way, and they 2111 01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:08,640 Speaker 2: hit it right as long as we came. 2112 01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:14,439 Speaker 1: Weird things happen, guys. But two and five it's getting 2113 01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:14,920 Speaker 1: laid early. 2114 01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:19,200 Speaker 16: It's bad, John, There's no getting around it. It's bad. 2115 01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:23,000 Speaker 16: The Giants are in a very very deep hole, and 2116 01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:25,679 Speaker 16: the quicksand is filling up that hole a lot faster 2117 01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:26,599 Speaker 16: than they're digging out. 2118 01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,400 Speaker 1: And at Steelers next Monday Night. Steelers get the Jets 2119 01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:32,680 Speaker 1: tonight on Sunday Night Football. If Giant fans want to 2120 01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:34,840 Speaker 1: get a feel for what that team might look like, 2121 01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw him on Dallas last weekend for 2122 01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:40,360 Speaker 1: the time. So Russell Wilson looks like he's getting the start. 2123 01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:42,040 Speaker 1: I don't think the Steelers have made that official. George 2124 01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,920 Speaker 1: Pickens kind of leaked that out themselves. 2125 01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:49,320 Speaker 2: That guy, George has a lot to say. Yes he does. 2126 01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:50,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a time out. We'll come back 2127 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,360 Speaker 1: at final thoughts and wrap things up right here. On 2128 01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:56,240 Speaker 1: Giants Extra Point, Giants again faulted the Eagles twenty eight 2129 01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:56,719 Speaker 1: to three. 2130 01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:00,080 Speaker 6: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the w u 2131 01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:02,360 Speaker 6: Fan Giants Radio network. 2132 01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:04,880 Speaker 17: This is Jermaine Leminois and you're listening to the radio 2133 01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:08,960 Speaker 17: home of Big Blue the Fan, WFAN and Wfan FM, 2134 01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:09,519 Speaker 17: New York. 2135 01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:12,360 Speaker 2: Back here on Giants Extra Point. 2136 01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:14,839 Speaker 1: The Giants fall to the Philadelphia Eagles here a MetLife Stadium, 2137 01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:16,640 Speaker 1: twenty eight to three. They dropped their record to two 2138 01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:20,960 Speaker 1: and five on the season. Schmelk, Detino Cassius wrapping things 2139 01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:23,439 Speaker 1: up here from MetLife Stadium, and guys we mentioned at 2140 01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:26,360 Speaker 1: the end of the last segment. Giants traveled to Pittsburgh 2141 01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:30,880 Speaker 1: to take on the Pittsburgh Steelers next week. Paul, that's 2142 01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:34,120 Speaker 1: another team that has trouble scoring points. Yes, they do 2143 01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:38,280 Speaker 1: not score. They play good defense, but offensively they struggle. 2144 01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:41,640 Speaker 16: Well, you would think that a tug Award close to 2145 01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:44,320 Speaker 16: the Vest kind of game where twenty points might win, 2146 01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:47,679 Speaker 16: it would actually be in the Giants favor right now, 2147 01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:48,800 Speaker 16: given the fact that they. 2148 01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:52,479 Speaker 2: Are so much struggling offensively. Look, who's it a block? 2149 01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:57,479 Speaker 2: DJ Watt, Yeah, well that's a good question. He's pretty good. Yeah, 2150 01:39:57,760 --> 01:39:59,599 Speaker 2: it's pretty good. Good, he's pretty good. 2151 01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:00,720 Speaker 9: You know. 2152 01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:06,120 Speaker 16: I Look, I'll say this, in a typical Giants Tug 2153 01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:09,439 Speaker 16: a war kind of game where they're playing complimentary football, 2154 01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:13,959 Speaker 16: and they're not making mistakes like mostly what happened in Seattle, 2155 01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:17,520 Speaker 16: Okay when they won, what they mostly did in Cleveland 2156 01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,840 Speaker 16: when they won. The one thing that they need to 2157 01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:24,200 Speaker 16: count on is the kicking game. They need to tilt 2158 01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:26,559 Speaker 16: the field on special teams. They need to get points 2159 01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,320 Speaker 16: whenever their kicker comes on to kick that field goal. 2160 01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:32,599 Speaker 16: Those are going to be important things in this game 2161 01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:35,240 Speaker 16: coming up for the Giants next Monday. There's no question, Jase. 2162 01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:38,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Look this team that the Giants are going to 2163 01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:41,880 Speaker 3: face next week, Pittsburgh, they won at least a one 2164 01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,720 Speaker 3: game that they didn't even score touchdown. They figured out 2165 01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:45,559 Speaker 3: how to do that. 2166 01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:46,679 Speaker 2: That's how Mike Tomlin plays. 2167 01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, they figured out how to do that. 2168 01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:49,960 Speaker 2: A physical football. 2169 01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:52,120 Speaker 3: So this is a team where if their offense is 2170 01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:55,720 Speaker 3: sputtering and they can only kick six field goals, they 2171 01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:57,280 Speaker 3: figured out how to win that type. 2172 01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:59,080 Speaker 1: When you were with the Patriots, did you play against 2173 01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:03,720 Speaker 1: the Steelers? Not with the Patriots, well, against anyone? Did 2174 01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:05,200 Speaker 1: you play here when I was in New York? 2175 01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, we played at Pittsburgh when they had Ben Roethlisberger 2176 01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:08,800 Speaker 3: Tonio Brown. 2177 01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:10,880 Speaker 1: So when I say there, like, do you sense a 2178 01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:12,160 Speaker 1: different type of physicality. 2179 01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:16,000 Speaker 3: And in Pittsburgh too. That first of all, that is 2180 01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:18,800 Speaker 3: a beautiful place and a beautiful environment to play in. 2181 01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,000 Speaker 2: The Field's not the best, it's not the. 2182 01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:24,160 Speaker 3: Field, but like the environment is more like a college environment. 2183 01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:26,439 Speaker 3: You know, you can smell it when you get when 2184 01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:28,400 Speaker 3: you when you get close to the stadium, you can 2185 01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:30,719 Speaker 3: smell it in the air. It smells like football, smells 2186 01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:33,720 Speaker 3: like barbecue, you know, like that football smell. They have 2187 01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:35,800 Speaker 3: it over there, for sure. Maybe I get here a 2188 01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:37,479 Speaker 3: little too early, a met life. I'm kind of here, 2189 01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:40,120 Speaker 3: you know, two hours before the kickoff starts, you know, 2190 01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:45,679 Speaker 3: to get for the game. But I was good today. 2191 01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:48,400 Speaker 3: I was like twenty minutes early, which is twenty minutes 2192 01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:52,320 Speaker 3: earlier usual. But no, Pittsburgh has a great environment. That 2193 01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:56,360 Speaker 3: is a true football culture up there, you know. And 2194 01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:59,240 Speaker 3: and you know those guys are led by Tomlin. They're 2195 01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,840 Speaker 3: led by their deep you know, for the decade that 2196 01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:04,360 Speaker 3: they've been good, you know, the half a century that 2197 01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:06,960 Speaker 3: they've been good for, you know, and Tomlin has not 2198 01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:08,879 Speaker 3: had a losing season because of that defense. 2199 01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:10,880 Speaker 2: Quick look at the scoreboard here, folks. 2200 01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:14,200 Speaker 1: He went through the early scores a bit earlier in 2201 01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:16,720 Speaker 1: the pregame show Chiefs. They lead the forty nine ers 2202 01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:18,559 Speaker 1: fourteen to six. They just kicked off the second half. 2203 01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:21,400 Speaker 1: Rams lead the Raiders fourteen to six, and the Commander's 2204 01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,720 Speaker 1: blowing out the Panthers thirty four to nothing. One to 2205 01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:25,479 Speaker 1: keep one thing to keep an eye on. Jada Daniels 2206 01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:28,360 Speaker 1: left that game with a rib injury. He will not return. 2207 01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:30,960 Speaker 1: He is standing on the sideline. So is that because 2208 01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:32,519 Speaker 1: it's a blowout you want to put him back in. 2209 01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,040 Speaker 1: But remember one of the things we worried about with 2210 01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:37,320 Speaker 1: Jaana Daniels baul coming out very slight. He's built like 2211 01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,920 Speaker 1: a not just a wide receiver, like a slot wide receiver. 2212 01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:43,200 Speaker 1: He's very you know, if he gets falling on a lot, 2213 01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:45,240 Speaker 1: he's not a large man. That's something to keep an 2214 01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:45,559 Speaker 1: eye on. 2215 01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:48,439 Speaker 16: He is a pretzel stick. Let's not pull any punches. 2216 01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:49,960 Speaker 16: He is a pretzel stick. 2217 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,920 Speaker 1: He's very fast and talented pretzel stick though without a doubt. 2218 01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:57,240 Speaker 2: Okay, but durability is an issue in the National Football League. 2219 01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:01,080 Speaker 16: And you know what if he hasn't by now that 2220 01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:05,120 Speaker 16: taking hits in this league are going to hurt, well, 2221 01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:06,439 Speaker 16: he's gonna learn pretty quick. 2222 01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:09,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yep, he's a I think he's a tough guy, 2223 01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:12,240 Speaker 3: but your body can only take so much. And what 2224 01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:16,240 Speaker 3: the Commanders want to do with him, they do run 2225 01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,000 Speaker 3: him like It's not like he's just scrambling on plays. 2226 01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:22,920 Speaker 3: They have design run plays, quarterback sweep, quarterback draw. You know, 2227 01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,439 Speaker 3: he's an agile quarterback who can run, but he has 2228 01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:29,160 Speaker 3: to protect himself because these defenders they are not built 2229 01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:31,040 Speaker 3: to protect you. And you know they're gonna try not 2230 01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:33,639 Speaker 3: get fined, but they're gonna do everything in their power 2231 01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:34,719 Speaker 3: to get you on that ground. 2232 01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:36,800 Speaker 1: And the Giants had the Commanders in two weeks. That's 2233 01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:39,639 Speaker 1: a Sunday following that Steeler game before they head off 2234 01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:43,120 Speaker 1: to uh Germany and gut dog take on the Carolina Pandlers. 2235 01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:45,360 Speaker 1: Giants Extra Point was brought to you by Citizens, the 2236 01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:47,280 Speaker 1: official bank of the New York Giants. Citizens is made 2237 01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,840 Speaker 1: ready for Giant fans. Hackensack, Brendy and health Keep getting Better, 2238 01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:52,759 Speaker 1: Peerless Boilers, the world's best bill boilers, and by Moody's 2239 01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:56,880 Speaker 1: Decode Risk, Unlock Opportunity, Learn Moore Moodies dot com. 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Our 2250 01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:21,200 Speaker 1: next broadcast will be next Monday night, when the Giants 2251 01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:24,280 Speaker 1: traveled to Pittsburgh to take on the Steelers. Pregame on 2252 01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:27,680 Speaker 1: the Fan will be at six point fifteen, though there 2253 01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:29,840 Speaker 1: is a chance we met us some Yankees World Series 2254 01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:31,800 Speaker 1: baseball that night, in which case we will be on 2255 01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:35,240 Speaker 1: FM only and the Giants and the Yankees rather will 2256 01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:38,080 Speaker 1: be on Amulets. The Yankees happen win the World Series 2257 01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:39,679 Speaker 1: in four games, and then we would have a problem 2258 01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:40,320 Speaker 1: next Monday night. 2259 01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:41,960 Speaker 2: Maybe we can. Actually I don't think that's you. I 2260 01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:44,160 Speaker 2: believe Game three is Monday, so there will. 2261 01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:46,840 Speaker 1: Be a Yankee game next Monday night regardless, so we'll 2262 01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:48,000 Speaker 1: have the split signal. 2263 01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:51,160 Speaker 2: It'll be the Yankees on IM, Giants on Fight Now, 2264 01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:51,599 Speaker 2: John Night. 2265 01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:54,200 Speaker 1: You never know that is True four, Paull the Tino 2266 01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:57,559 Speaker 1: for Johnathan can see us pop up banks cross our 2267 01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:01,759 Speaker 1: entire crew. Fantastic job carrying my scattered brain this today. 2268 01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:04,479 Speaker 1: We will see you next week on the w f 2269 01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:05,759 Speaker 1: Van Giants Radio Network 2270 01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:26,559 Speaker 5: HM