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Speaker 2: original presented by DraftKings, and we got an O G

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Speaker 1: I was having a.

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Speaker 3: Real one, real real real O G. Always respect man.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know, you know you're a monster. When

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Speaker 1: One to the ligaments in my ankle and broke my fibula.

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Speaker 1: still walking, freaking man, you know, as strong as an ox. Like,

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Speaker 1: them things, man, well food trappy. I brought it upon myself. Really,

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Speaker 1: the shoes that I had on, I was told not

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Speaker 1: Hard head? You know people trying to get you to sign.

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Speaker 1: that bitch. First half college career over conference tournament. How

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Speaker 3: Him, by the way, Yeah, how was it playing for Huggs?

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Speaker 3: who I played for getting a job, but Huggs was

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Speaker 1: A certain way like he ain't got to coach you, right,

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Speaker 1: when I came in, I had a foundation of play hard, athleticism,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. Right, It's just the process of getting

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Speaker 1: better at everything else, learning how to play basketball, learn this,

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Speaker 1: and how to watch film, and and each year just

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Speaker 1: adding something to the offensive game, right, and then just

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Speaker 1: listening to him. So it was I think like I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say this about film because my son's thirteen

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Speaker 3: years old and we watched film and I record his games. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm not dad walking there with Tripod. I said I'd

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Speaker 3: I can tell you after the game everything you did wrong,

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Speaker 3: I got your ass next time. I remember when you

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Speaker 3: Sometimes high school coaches, middle school coaches only worry about

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Speaker 1: a kJ all the time. And don't nobody like cool dog.

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Speaker 1: You were the same dude. Every time I seen you

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Speaker 2: What that message he has to talk about your your

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Speaker 3: Do you want that? Balance? I want you to always understand.

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Speaker 3: Like what did I not give you that you was

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Speaker 1: But now you're older, you see what it was, right?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you see, you see exactly what it was.

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Speaker 1: but we get to us it's a different like I'm

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Speaker 1: it's a process, right, yes, so I learned each step.

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Speaker 1: Good bad dudes don't, right, But the message is still

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Speaker 1: the way you deliver it, it's different because a different kid, Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: you gotta learn the child I definitely can't talk to

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Speaker 1: but the message don't change, broh Like it's just they

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, little man, I don't cuss that old

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Speaker 1: start what I'm saying, more creative of your word. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: Listen, right, I pray to God, my kids don't do

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Speaker 3: that because it ain't gonna go well, God, they don't

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Speaker 1: Just grab trust me. Well listen, bro kJ gonna hang

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Speaker 1: me to like this man, Listen, bro took some the

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Speaker 1: house blown to me before brou and I went up

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Speaker 3: M hm, up to the school. Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 3: That's what our parents used to do. That's what my

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Speaker 1: School Christian private school. Like that showed my whole ass up.

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Speaker 1: belonged to me. Listen. He didn't wait till schools over there. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm like no, She's like, she's like, on your way home.

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Speaker 1: I said, yeah, Right, I get to the house, she

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Speaker 1: tell me where it is. I changed cars, right, I'm

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Speaker 1: pulling out the driveway. I didn't scrape the whole side

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is his fault. Oh yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm blaming him. I'm living. I was already hot by

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Speaker 3: Man, that's happen to me before I said I take

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Speaker 3: something out of the house that belonged to me. But

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Speaker 3: I was in Europe. Was I was in Europe. Wh

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Speaker 3: I came they out the country. Everything free game, I

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Speaker 3: would killer as God is my witness with My wife

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Speaker 3: seven days before I get back. Each day I'm gon

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Speaker 3: want to whoop your ass more and more. A lot

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Speaker 3: of time I get back a lot of time I

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Speaker 3: get back.

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Speaker 1: Chat.

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Speaker 3: It's so funny, But you got some nerve. You ran

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Speaker 3: your son open basketball practice for taking it. Tell you

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Speaker 3: take charge year, Tell you take charge.

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Speaker 1: Story. But I coached one year of high school basketball.

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Speaker 1: It was my It was the COVID year. So the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so they came out to me, said, when

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Speaker 2: your coach coach your son's team. So Mason was a senior,

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Speaker 2: Maverick was a freshman. I said, yeah, I'll do that.

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Speaker 2: So we're doing charge really, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: I said, if you did this and didn't get back,

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Speaker 1: This man. This a goddamn good show. Today. Boy, this

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Speaker 1: He ducked in on Ryan Fletcher one day, right and scored.

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Speaker 1: Hug said, God damn it, fletch, fletch. The it hit

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Speaker 1: Is that? Why?

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Speaker 3: Because he spoke your language, because he was him, He

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Speaker 1: The message recruitment was I'm not promising you anything but

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 3: Man, Oh my god, hard time. This is a great shows.

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Speaker 3: That's this that we don't get no more man like man.

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Speaker 1: Bro. I called a Greyhound bus from Dallas to go

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 3: Listen. I took my youngest son to play pick up.

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Speaker 1: If you if you win, you'll stay on this. That's

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Speaker 3: Like, if you win, you want a game? What you

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Speaker 2: I gotta talk more about huggs. Yeah, hey, and real talk.

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Speaker 2: If you don't have that foot. That team y'all had

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Speaker 1: Was it Ky Saderfield Tomorrow. We were loaded, man, we

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Speaker 1: we and a goon squad. Though our bigs were like

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Speaker 1: I tell everybody they went down there and beat up

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Speaker 1: That's still about y'all got there and lost. Imagine not

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Speaker 1: it like y'all sick as a dog man, sick as

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Speaker 1: then what what does that look like? Yeah, they gave

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Speaker 1: It is June twenty first, it is UFC three oh three.

443
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 2: It is Jamal Hill versus Khalil Roundtree junior, Junior Junior.

444
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tough one, is it.

445
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, explain why I will go with the brother But

446
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 3: it's two brothers.

447
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 1: Ah, it's two brothers. Yes, it's a little tough.

448
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: You understand now if it helps you that this fight

449
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 2: has been rescheduled a couple of times. Now, Roun Tree

450
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 2: withdrew due to an unintentionally ingesting a banded substance. It

451
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 2: doesn't pass the smell test.

452
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: Doesn't pass the smell test. Coach, you should.

453
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 3: Asked one question intentionally ingested this band substance? Since he withdrew,

454
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 3: that mean he told he called him, was like, you

455
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 3: know what I took?

456
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: We need to reschedule the fight. They didn't have to

457
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: catch him. Clearly, that's what happened.

458
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 3: Okay, So it might have been unintentional. I hope it was.

459
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 3: Damn So two brothers. I'm going around Tree. He took

460
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 3: and came back and told he seemed like an honorable guy.

461
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean he's a favorite too, by the way.

462
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't look at all that okay, but the

463
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 3: other guy have less losses.

464
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're looking at fourteen six and twelve

465
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 2: and three, twelve and three.

466
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh.

467
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm going with the one who I'm

468
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: going with the honorable guy.

469
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: Who came and say, hey, listen, I took Also now

470
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 1: you're an honorable guy. Huh.

471
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: I mean I like honorable guys. This is the kind

472
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 3: of guy I want to marry my daughter. Honorable guy

473
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 3: out of whipped your ass. I'm got an honorable guy. Hey,

474
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 3: I made a mistake, but I whooped your ass.

475
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: I'll go around treat you.

476
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: I know it ain't gonna make me a lot of coins,

477
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 3: but that's why we work.

478
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: That's why he works so hard.

479
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: I'll be honestly, minus one forty two in UFC is

480
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: is a very competitive line. Like that's that's a very

481
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 2: competitive line. That means that this fight is really, really close.

482
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: And I'll be honest with you, I've been a little

483
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 2: busy with the thirty seven jobs. We have my my

484
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: pulses off UFC like it used to be used to

485
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: be nailing this.

486
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you would have been you would have told me

487
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: who was gonna win you had told me how many

488
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 3: kids he got where you're from? Yeah, what's his favorite movie?

489
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: Brown House Back Kicked take Down.

490
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 2: Oh, but I'm gonna I'm gonna follow your lead. I

491
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: like I like honorable I like honorable men as well.

492
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: And I think that he unintentionally ingested the banned substance

493
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: that got him bigger, faster, and stronger than Jamil Hill.

494
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: And that is why I'm taking him.

495
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: But it was unintentional.

496
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: But it's unintentionally and he came to the table and

497
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 3: he owned up to it. I took something I might

498
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: have shouldn't have took it by accident. And we need

499
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: to postpone the fight.

500
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so all you people at home, it's UFC. It's

501
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: three h three, it's June twenty first. What's the code though,

502
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Speaker 2: Oh g code? Oh GZ man, you go.

503
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Speaker 1: To Uh, it's not Brooklyn, it's.

504
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: New Jerseys bro draft Right, did you know you're going

505
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: one when you walked in the building.

506
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: It wasn't one hundred percent. Oh I didn't hear that

507
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: it was one hundred It ain't like now everybody knowing, No,

508
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: it was People were debating if they was gonna take

509
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: the miles all because of injury. Yeah, that's it, the young,

510
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: young phenom.

511
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: And but.

512
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: More power to him if y'all want to take him.

513
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 1: I was trying to go where you went, Orlando. We

514
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: wanted to go really, especially that next year. Hell yeah,

515
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: thats a pretty good goddamn team, though, Now you know

516
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: that's that was the next year, not my rookie year. Right.

517
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: The next year, that's when y'all got six games. We

518
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 3: won twenty six games my rookie years.

519
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: Next year y'all got Jay's kidd and and all that

520
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: carry got healthy. I was going into my second year.

521
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: They traded for j Kid, They drafted r J. Keith

522
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: Van Horn was still. Yes, was good, It was nice,

523
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: was nice. It was trying to make room for r J.

524
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,959
Speaker 1: And the crazy thing about Keith and Horn had been

525
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: perfect next to you too. Man even worked out because

526
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: he would guard the forest because he was too slow,

527
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: and I would guard the threes. Yeah, so he was

528
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: a space guy, what I'm saying. So it worked, But

529
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: I just ye, I think they were trying to make

530
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: room for RJ. Because RJ played well his rookie year

531
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: and they were trying to make room for him, so

532
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: they moved heap if.

533
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken. In one of those years, I was

534
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: one of the top teams in the East.

535
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: They went to the finals twice. Yeah yeah, two years

536
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: in the road, bro. The first year your j kid

537
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: got there. Yeah yeah, we doubled our We doubled our

538
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: win total. Hey talking about that the finals? Yeah, how

539
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: was that? Unexpect Lakers and Spurs, right, unexpected the first year?

540
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: Especially unexpected. Man, we didn't make the playoffs the year before.

541
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: And you don't go from yeah, that don't happen. Not

542
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: making a play, not making the final don't happen. That

543
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: don't happen. My second year, twenty three years old, Like, no,

544
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: I got here. I get here right, just playing basketball,

545
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: don't know nothing else, just hooping. NBA is still fairly.

546
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: It was fresh. I'm sure I'm older because I got

547
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: four years of colleague experience. All that is still the NBA,

548
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: don't it don't matter. We we beat until we get

549
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: past Indiana in the first round. We botting this when

550
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: the first round was still five games, right, crazy? So

551
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: we battle in Indiana. We think we got him. Reggie

552
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: hit and shot at the buzzer, which we all think

553
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: was late. Tied up. We're going to double overtime and

554
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: we beat Indiana in the first round. Man, it was like, okay,

555
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: go to the second round. It's like four to the

556
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: second round, Like okay, we get to East Comes final,

557
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 1: like be the good Boston team. It's like, all right,

558
00:28:47,960 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: up next? Is that? Oh Lord? Shock right that man? Listen, dog,

559
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll be trying to explain to people. Man.

560
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: And if you didn't experience playing against two thousand, two

561
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: thousand and one, two thousand and two, Shaquille O'Neill, I'm.

562
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: So glad you touched on this because I was so

563
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: sick at the end of my career or at the

564
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: shacks Stree when I was still playing, and people like,

565
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, y'all, y'all wish y'all seen them eight

566
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: years ago.

567
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: Like but honestly like and in a different way that

568
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: you had the same healthy feel with mother had to

569
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: play against you.

570
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: It was a different It was the same thing like these.

571
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: Mother will dominate you, like and embarrass you or dunk

572
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: on your ass and push you down and knock you

573
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: down like you could everybody wouldn't couldn't get in the

574
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: ring with these boys, Like you know what I'm saying,

575
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: and listen, there want too many people that got me

576
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: worked up. But I knew when I had it. I

577
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: was like, man, I gotta bring my wet or we're

578
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: gonna get it if I don't he coming with it.

579
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: I came out drinking it and all that.

580
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 1: But because I gotta be. And the thing is I

581
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: probably was. The crazy shit is my ass is probably

582
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: after the night before, like I know what it's gonna

583
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: be one day.

584
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: I remember one game I was playing, so goddamn scratch.

585
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: You remember that long scratch I'm young for you got

586
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: to cut your guy, you fellow, you gotta cut you there,

587
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: say my bad man cut them.

588
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: He told me that where the next time I saw

589
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: him saying many and I worked so goddamn hard that night,

590
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: killer like him like Zebo. First of all, I'm trying

591
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 3: not even let you catch it because if I let

592
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: you catch it, then I'm at your mercy.

593
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: I know how good you are. My defense thoughts where

594
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: you cross the half cool? Absolutely bro, I said yes

595
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: day on the podcast we was talking about yesterday, I said,

596
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: on the show, listen it starts, yeah, man, but I

597
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: knew were gonna So the thing is when you play

598
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: a certain way, and certain guys play a certain way.

599
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: We never get into it. Yeah, that's right expected, we

600
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: never get into it. We always get into it. We

601
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: want to play that this that we know this how

602
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: you played all stop? Yeah right, cut the man like,

603
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: we're not finna do this tonight with you, dog like,

604
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: because you know what, if I turn it up, then

605
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna exactly right, exactly me and you z bow

606
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: certain we always kept it here. We're gonna battle and

607
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna be that love that respect always. We ain't

608
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: gonna because it's mutual respect man for on the respect

609
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: and each possession means something. Yes, right, If more people

610
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: and more the product could be a lot better. These

611
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: kids are very skilled, good all that, but if they

612
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: played the game like we know, each possession, man, that

613
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: means something. I ain't gonna like it was. I think

614
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 1: you was there?

615
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: Was you that year when Riley came in to put

616
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: no Shock was there? We're in the locker room, were

617
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 3: waiting for Roles to come in. We're getting ready for

618
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: a game. I think it's actually it might. I think

619
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: it was the finest when we played against Dallas and

620
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: we got we we lost the first two games on

621
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: the road. We come back home and we got three

622
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: games straight before we leave. This mother come in the

623
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: locker room with a bucket of water. Mother sticky bucket

624
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: of ice water, stick his head in the ice water.

625
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: Were looking around, like what is he doing? Now? Thirty

626
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: seconds go by?

627
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: Now we ad like forty seconds he took his head

628
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: out of the ice water.

629
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: Face red, you gotta want this game like you want

630
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: your last breath.

631
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 3: Oh damn, back yo, like like on that kind of

632
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: like that, you know what I'm saying. But like you said,

633
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: like every possession was like the last possession.

634
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: I know that was a little extreme, but to his point,

635
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: like see I ain't wrapped too tight, I ain't wrapped.

636
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: Go back in. Let me say how bad you really

637
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: want it?

638
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: Listen that about forty seconds he went, as long as

639
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: you can give me another twenty listen, face was red, Hell,

640
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 3: you gotta want this when like you want your last breath.

641
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: We thought that was crazy, but we understood the message.

642
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: We understood the message though, So y'all. So the year

643
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: after the lockout, you know I was supposed to come

644
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: down there. Yeah, I remember that. I remember hearing rumblings

645
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: about that. I came on to visit. I was on

646
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: the road. I came down and that I remember that

647
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: I had been man.

648
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: My body had been through so much. He talking about

649
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: all that Mother Edition and all that y'all was doing.

650
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I ain't gonna make because I

651
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,719
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be see, I'm not remember that. I'm not

652
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna let you put me in that situation, right,

653
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: I know me and I didn't want to bump head

654
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: like y'all got a great order, y'all got a great

655
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: group of guys here. Man, I'm I'm not gonna if

656
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: I don't feel if if my body ain't gonna let

657
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: me do it today, I'm not gonna let you force

658
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: me to do it. And I'm gonna tell you that, right.

659
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, them dudes and y'all went out

660
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: of one. I went to the Clippers. I was like, yeah,

661
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: them boys good, they play hard, but I j I

662
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: can't do that part. I remember that I coming. I

663
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: was looking forward. Yeah no, and then you know it

664
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: wasn't certain. I just like, man, I need I need

665
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: to be on the floor to be productive, right you. Yeah,

666
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, I just need to put

667
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: my list in around twenty five minutes a night. Like,

668
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can promise you that got

669
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: to go. I'm like, I respect it, man, but for

670
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: me to be effective, to be here, I can't do

671
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: it sitting on the bench. You would have been a

672
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: heat guy for sure. Yeah. Yeah, fit right in. So

673
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: I tell my son this all the time. Yeah, like

674
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: you said, you built like that. Talk to me though,

675
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: because we we skip, we skip over your your Denver days.

676
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: That team is fun. Wouldn't want to play against It's

677
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: fun to watch though.

678
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: Hey, I can get no AI you got was a

679
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: problem too?

680
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what I mean like j R. Smith? Yes, yes,

681
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: I mean that. Yeah, who else on that team? Give

682
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: miss Clowers cause he don't get his flowers? You know

683
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like we of course young and know

684
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, young and was When I say young

685
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: and mellow is always mellow. We passed over on the

686
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: NBC gig, you know what I'm saying. I saw, of course,

687
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: I've always called him my young and he always gonna

688
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: be that, right, So I saw him laying I'm young

689
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: and young man. He was. He was in the second

690
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: year when I got there, all right. So we grew

691
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: up like he grew up a lot. Man. We were

692
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: there j r. Of course, Man, we had a lot

693
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: of Greg Man just names man, Greg Bugner, Andre Miller

694
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: was the point going when the first we had for

695
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: Sean Leonard as the shooter shooting that thing. Of course, Jr.

696
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: Six Man of the Year. Eventually, we're just bigs. Marcus

697
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: can be myself. They yeah, one was my favorite. Yeah.

698
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: We just we and I just yeah, yeah, And I'm

699
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: gonna keep harping on it. People gonna get tired of

700
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: hearing me say it. Probably, But if we have a

701
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: different coach, we win a championship, bro Man, no doubt

702
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: about it. I just said this earlier. Your coach gotta

703
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: get you one. If we have a different coach that

704
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: was well rounded the game and people, not just the

705
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: game and people, yes, because it just can't be one part.

706
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: So did the man no basketball, Yeah, but it wasn't

707
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: in its totality. Yeah, in the game situations like all

708
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: the shit you need, like if you ain't got no

709
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: time outs or if they take this away, what we're

710
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: gonna do if this is and we never worked out

711
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: play for this man for six and a half years.

712
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: We never worked on it bro in the game situation, like,

713
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: never worked on it all. So it's like that that

714
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: we're playing the Lakers West and comes Finals. We throw

715
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: the ball away twice because we're trying to zip a

716
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: mellow up. We ain't ran no action, just zip him

717
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: up and they take it away. We turned the ball

718
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: ac home, mean to throw you on the bus at

719
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: A throw the ball away the first game, I throw

720
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: it away the second game. Yeah right, we try to

721
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: run the same exactly the exact same player that just

722
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: turned the mother over too early clips. Yeah, you know

723
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

724
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 3: So you know I had an opportunity to be a

725
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 3: part of that. Yeah, I had the opportunity to go

726
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: out to Denver when I was a free agent, and

727
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: it came up and I ended up going back to Miami,

728
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: but it was Dallas. It was Denver that was one

729
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 3: of my options.

730
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: You know.

731
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 3: I ain't go out there because I thought if I

732
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: would have got with y'all boys would have been I say,

733
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: they speak my language, they time, but when they speak

734
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: my language, they're my type. But I get out there

735
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 3: with them boys, and what's inside me gonna come out

736
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 3: what's inside me gonna reveal itself, Like I can't go

737
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 3: out there because my type of dude.

738
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: So the thing with it was like, so we had

739
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: a teammate, right, we we did us right, we were

740
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: gonna play hard and we're gonna play hard, right. Yeah.

741
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: So in the other player had one of our teammates

742
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: come out with us. Ain't never been out, don't drink whatever,

743
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: but he wanted to come out. So we let him

744
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: come out with us. This, that and the third and

745
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: he played like the next game, right, we can't this

746
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: is glad. You got to come experience it. You can't

747
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: come out that's it. You can't handle that's it. We

748
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: were that like, we're gonna listen, we're gonna see what

749
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: it is. We're gonna see who can and cannot do this,

750
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: but we're gonna we're gonna treat you accordingly.

751
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 3: I would have came out to Denver man with y'all boys.

752
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: We would have been coming out the third holiday listen,

753
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 3: let me.

754
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: Tell you something. But it wouldn't have been Nobody would

755
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: have been safe. It was not.

756
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 3: I say, man, if I go out there, I'm in

757
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: my element that I already know how I could tell

758
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 3: you know it's it ain't in them, it's own them.

759
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: They own him. It's in them. We know who they are.

760
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: If I get out there with them, man, we might

761
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: every game, we might somebody. This is already a great

762
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 3: chance every game. That's really why I did not go then.

763
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: But I said, man, I can't. You couldn't have been

764
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 3: on them.

765
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't go out there with them boys then

766
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: them years it would have been Yeah, because because they

767
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: they put Reggie in the mix at one.

768
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 3: No Reggie gonna do bro man like y'all. I literally

769
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: said that to myself. I said, I can't go out

770
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 3: there because what's inside me gonna reveal yourself?

771
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, man, we used to know them. Teams were fun, man.

772
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: We love playing basketball one another. Man. It's when you

773
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: then you put so me and mellow that. Then you

774
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: add Chuck into the equation. All right. My favorite when

775
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: there's an admiration from afar. You never been a part

776
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: of it, but y'all off the floor. Y'all have been this,

777
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: and then you're able to play in the same environment

778
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: with that person that brings some different ship out you. Yes,

779
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: get rid of AI. Unfortunately, then we bring Chauncey in

780
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: big shot. We make it to the Western Conference finals

781
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: with Chauncey, you know what I'm saying. So it's that

782
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: that you we went from Andre Miller to Chuck, from

783
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: Chuck to Johncey. So now it's good basketball players, man

784
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: winners and guys who know this game and that competed,

785
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: and like I said, we were as a group handicapped

786
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: from decision management made by keeping dude on it like

787
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: when we were when he got there, we was winning.

788
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, but over time you see who the dude

789
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: is and who the person is and what it is.

790
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: And first round lost, first round, lost, first round, Like

791
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: we had a better record than the Clippers, and we

792
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: had to go on the road for the first two

793
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: games of the playoffs. Who who Yeah, right, so we

794
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: had on the road. So it's like that, right, So

795
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: how long would y'all go allow it to keep going

796
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: before y'all change this? Damn these these wins during the

797
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: regular season and we just getting to the first round.

798
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: We gotta do something different. We got the talent. We

799
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: just here y y'all. Every year, y'all bringing whoever the

800
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: hottest name is at that position, y'all got a chance

801
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: to it because we what we're doing, but you don't

802
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: you don't capitalize on it.

803
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: So that place was impossible to win at when you're there,

804
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: impossible win at them. It was impossible market off as.

805
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: It was loaded.

806
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 2: Man, the names, it's already hard.

807
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: Going eight to nine deep, no more. And then you

808
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: got guys that was that really didn't play at times,

809
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 1: like Chuckie Atkins was a dog. Then Anthony Carter didn't

810
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: play at times, and then we brought in Ty Loss

811
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: and then you had Leonards Klay's and you had Greg

812
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: Buckner and Damar Johnson was there for many with us.

813
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So it's man, we had a lot of

814
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: guys that knew how to play. We just didn't have

815
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: a dude that know how to deal with us as

816
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: an individuals and as a unit. Part of it, that's

817
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: part of it, Like to go out and get this done.

818
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 1: I mean part of coaching.

819
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: And you know I would I would say this is

820
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: what'sposed great at you know what I'm saying. And that's

821
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 3: not taking nothing away from other coaches, but part of

822
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 3: coaching is understanding how to push your players buttons, how

823
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 3: to get the most out of your players, and sometimes

824
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: that requires you to spend time with that person off

825
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 3: the basketball court. Bro get coffee, go to lunch, you know,

826
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 3: calling go to his camps when he do camps in

827
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: the summer. Just don't ask no questions, just show up

828
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: to his camp to support him. Stuff that I was

829
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 3: able to do as a veteran. But sometimes, you know

830
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: what I ain't gonna say. Sometimes, when you want to

831
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: get the best out of a player, you got to

832
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 3: understand that everybody's different. Like you talk about your kids.

833
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 3: I could talk to him, but I can't talk to

834
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 3: him this way. So how do I motivate this player

835
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: to get the best version out of him? And everybody's different,

836
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 3: And I just require you spending time with the person

837
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: understanding it ain't all about just practice. It ain't just

838
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: from eleven thirty in the morning to two thirty and

839
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 3: then I don't see You'll talk you no more, and

840
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: then you just show up again. I tell you what

841
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 3: to do, and you take your ass home, and then

842
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 3: we keep doing this every day and then you walk.

843
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: I think at that point it starts to fall on

844
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 3: deaf ears. Now it's just it's just you know what

845
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying that on repeat? Yeah, it's on repeat. That's

846
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: on the loop day and day you walk lock or

847
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: don't speak to me like that, like yeah, yeah, that

848
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 3: don't work. That don't work, That don't work, my trip,

849
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 3: that don't work, like and that's.

850
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: But then I'm the asshole because I say something right,

851
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm the one that brings everybody the tensions. And then

852
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 1: I'm the asshole right now here, and then it's like yeah,

853
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: here you go again. Right, But a lot of this,

854
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: like so I'm like, you know, I'm gonna swell out

855
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: of like and the me you know this, A lot

856
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: of this like I'm speaking up for it ain't got

857
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: nothing to do with me. Yes, I do that all

858
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: the time. I'm speaking up for every the group, the rookie.

859
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: It is to that. Like, so a lot of this

860
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: that I got into it with with the organization coach

861
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: most of the time had nothing to do with me. Yep.

862
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: Because I don't like how they just right and wrong

863
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: is wrong. I don't like how they treating it right

864
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: and wrong is wrong. I'm not gonna let them mistreat

865
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: it because you you only here for training camp like nah,

866
00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: we're not finna do that, like no this man, So yeah, no,

867
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's all that part of it, like

868
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: you got in order to win, and you need that.

869
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: Y'all had that down there, That's what I'm saying, like,

870
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to disrupt that right because I

871
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: knew me. I knew then I've been going through. Yeah,

872
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm not yet. Yeah, if I don't in my body

873
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: is this, don't fill up to it. I ain't doing it. Bro,

874
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: time is everything. Yeah, I ain't doing it.

875
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 3: And honestly, honestly, like you know, we're in a time

876
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: now where you know, I think it's more acceptable to

877
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: give guys grace if they body saying no. But back

878
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: in the day, they ain't give it. Damn hell brace mouthpiece.

879
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: To play with the soft cast on the pensiness. Back then,

880
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: they ain't give it. There was one of them. Back

881
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: in the day. They used to ask you this question.

882
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: You heard all you hurt? All, I can't walk? Why

883
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: does it matter? Worry about your mother? Feelings now? Feelings

884
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: you don't feel about w I firm believe man. Put

885
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: your feelings in your pocket. Man, Man, we go for

886
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: the bottom. Listen sports about your feelings, about your feelings.

887
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: Your feelings don't matter. When we're trying to win. I

888
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: agree thousand per I would care the whay you. But

889
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: then come on, man, oh brouh, we don't like We

890
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: should be able to go to a time out and

891
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: I should be able to say you you everything you

892
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: stand for.

893
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 3: As soon as that got them, it's over. Get back

894
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: out here. It is over.

895
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: We did that.

896
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 3: I just said what I had to say. You don't

897
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: say what you had to say. Now, I guess what

898
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 3: another from the other team better. I talked to you

899
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: like that, saying you better not look at you exactly.

900
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: Another but he better not say no like that.

901
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: I wish you would.

902
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: But when we get back out here, there ain't no

903
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 3: feelings because I know you want the best for me

904
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: and I want the best for you. You're trying to

905
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 3: pull the best version of me out. We ain't got

906
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: time for that.

907
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: Now go over.

908
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: Stand over in the corner. PA, no want to play

909
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 3: now you this is deal with you. Cuss him out now.

910
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: You're done for the night. I seen it before killer

911
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: cut somebody. He is done for the night. To kill

912
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: that you can he is done for to night. I

913
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: seen it before my own eyes. I can't believe it.

914
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 3: This is how I've learned to deal with different personalities

915
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: and different players. And that's why I stuck around for

916
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: so long, because I had to understand that. Because if

917
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: I approached everybody the way Frank, Bob and a man,

918
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be No ody a't gonna listen to me.

919
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: They're not gonna respond to me. They don't want to

920
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: hear that. They didn't want to hear that. Bro tripping again,

921
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 3: tripping again? Yeah, straight up, there you go.

922
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: Let me give you a couple of fan questions. You're

923
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: cool with that already.

924
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 2: At Chuck, I know you were an elite athlete, But

925
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: what train does your son do? He jumps like he's

926
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: mad at gravity, hoping landed with the pacers. That plays up,

927
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: Tempa says, mad at gravity. That's so much, just mad

928
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: at gravity.

929
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: Get up. You can get up, boy? He What the

930
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: hell y'all got going on over there? Oh y'all angry

931
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: jumpers though? Genetics? Man Like, it's.

932
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 3: Because when you dunk that much to try to break

933
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 3: that bit. Yeah, he just got to hit that.

934
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: Real strong like he was always like like strong kid,

935
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: but that jumping and he just I used to watch

936
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: him in high school. Bro like this, yo, I'm finla

937
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: safe for him to say, yo, that was crazy people.

938
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: So when he was younger, right, we used to be

939
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: out like my house and Dallas. They always hooped and

940
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: all that. But so they so had the hoops that

941
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: you could lower the lord when they was younger, just

942
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: dunk man. He used to be out there like because

943
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: he he shoots right handed, but he dunks, he goes

944
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: everything else left handed. He used to be out there

945
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: flying around like Josh Smith. I just be like, yo,

946
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: I just asked my partner in them, like, yo, man,

947
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: don't they like John smith Man like tearing the left

948
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: out there? It's just taking off. I'm like, yo, like

949
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: they loing and he destroying the rim. I'm like. Then

950
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: as old he got, I'm like yeah, and then he

951
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: would by the time he was high school, I'm like

952
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,959
Speaker 1: this goddamn boy, violent man. Listen this man he got

953
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: angry as jumper, too angry, and he won't like he

954
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 1: won't like all actions, all smoke and all the time.

955
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 3: And to your credit, the things that we talked about

956
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 3: early on and things that you were doing raising them

957
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: and all that, like you did a great job because

958
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: when we had an opportunity to play against some different times,

959
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: different situations because of my relationship and my respect for

960
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: you put him to the side and have a couple

961
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: of words with him and this thing and everything, and

962
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 3: he had to. He always had the right mindset, you

963
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. He always was respectful. I'm saying

964
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 3: he always competed when he when he was in the game,

965
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 3: like you did your job.

966
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: He gonna do that, man, because he because like we

967
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: he don't want to hear my mouth like at all,

968
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: like you know to like twenty four DV. I'm not

969
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: gonna stop. Like Joel was out early in the season,

970
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: right when he still with feeling, Joel was out, Tyre

971
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: was out getting opportunity, but he still wasn't being aggressive

972
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: with the ball. So he gets they come back in

973
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: one game, he don't get know, he called me up, man,

974
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear I told you I told

975
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: you to shoot that man. Hey, yeah whatever, man, he

976
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: hung up on me. Hey you're called back, Yeah you will.

977
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: But he made him he's so competitive, man. So in

978
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: a good situation, now you talk, man, So he's gonna

979
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to play. Yeah, No, he's man. Yeah,

980
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: he's a he's a he's a hooper man. He's a

981
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: professional at first and foremost. But no, he loved he

982
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: loved basketball, man. He loves the process of getting better.

983
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: So shout out the kJ MA. That's right at sports

984
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: and blunts. Why you do Mark Cuban like that? What

985
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: do you do? Mark Cuban? Damn? What I miss? Oh

986
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: now you said something to my mom?

987
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 3: Man?

988
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: Oh hell no, well hey listen what a minute? Like?

989
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: So when we played so the year before, y'all be dore.

990
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: So we played Dallas in the playoffs when we was

991
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 1: the Nuggets and we beat him the year before, y'all

992
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: twenty ten, y'all year before, we played Dallas in the

993
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 1: playoffs in the second round. And of course Dirk is Dirky.

994
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: So that's my matchup. You know, I'm I'm not going

995
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: so the maybe be in game one, Game two, Dirk

996
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: drove you know, they blew the whistle and he kept going, yeah,

997
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: trying to after the ball. I remember I shoved it

998
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 1: out of him. Remember, So I, of course I get

999
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: fined twenty five thousand, right because it's me. Nobody else

1000
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: getting fined for shoving them after the play, but me

1001
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: shove them up. So Mark Cube, so we go back

1002
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: to Dallas and we are kicking. They ass so my

1003
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: mom's inting a certain seat, so he must she walked about,

1004
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: and he said something to the effect like and your

1005
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: son a thug two or something. So after the game,

1006
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: I see my mom is visibly upset, and but won't

1007
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: nobody at the real time tell me what happened, because

1008
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: they know you, right, you don't nobody in real time.

1009
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: They wait till we lead arena to tell me. Like Mark,

1010
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: listen what he said to her. So the next game,

1011
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: game four, we were up three to zero. They win

1012
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: Game four. Of course, now we lose. Now I'm really

1013
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: on one. So y'all know the way Mark cut used

1014
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: to walk across the court when they lose. He used

1015
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: to walk diagonally across the court. He ain't never so

1016
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: this particular day he walks on the baseline, up the sideline. No,

1017
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: they go out there far tunnel normal. He walked diagonal

1018
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: across the court. Every time win, lou he always walked diagonal.

1019
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm the game is over, I'm walking dead towards him,

1020
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: and police start lining up. Security all that started lining up,

1021
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: and I told him, ill, I don't give a few

1022
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: billionai or not. I whoop your ass. Man, don't you

1023
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: ever like she is off limits? Who you are? I

1024
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: ted this? You have to call swatting this bitch. I

1025
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: teed this money up. Brother, ain't lying. You don't say

1026
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: no in the Lydia. I don't, oh bro, I don't

1027
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: you been and all that? You cool, all all that,

1028
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: But I don't like your team. Your arena great, I'm

1029
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: gonna crash out. Whoop your ass in your arena. We're

1030
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: gonna crash out the girl. I'm with him. I'm with

1031
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: him on that ain't nowhere in hell man. That's just

1032
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: like fat ass George said, like in this book, go

1033
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: attack like we act this way because we ain't have

1034
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: no fathers. The Railers. My mama did a great job,

1035
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: single mother, single black, strong black woman in the house.

1036
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: You gonna attack because I act this way because I

1037
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: don't have no father in the house. This, that, and

1038
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: the third man. That's why it's him forever.

1039
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 3: The strongest people in the strongest people in my in

1040
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 3: my life, he hat boy. The strongest people in my

1041
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 3: life have been with the women. My mother came from

1042
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 3: drug edition, homelessness talk institution, talk about it and was

1043
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: able to go back and pull women out of the

1044
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 3: situation that she had already pull herself out of and

1045
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 3: go back and hear my mama tell her story. I

1046
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 3: always thought my strength came from my pops. Strength came

1047
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 3: from my mama. Absolutely what I'm saying, my props was there.

1048
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: But what I tell you, like, we struggled to communicate

1049
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 3: because if it wasn't about basketball, we just wasn't talking

1050
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 3: about you.

1051
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.

1052
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 3: So the strongest people in my life came from the

1053
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: strongest thing. The character came from the women in my Yeah,

1054
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 3: mark cute, I didn't get it. I can't talk to

1055
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 3: black people don't play that just luck you know people

1056
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 3: about nobody. Mama, you can't talk to nobody. Black people

1057
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 3: don't play that killer nothing that got to do with nobody.

1058
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: Mama. You better not say your mouth or it's on

1059
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: on site. I don't, like I said. And then that's

1060
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: the and that twenty five year old Yeah, I zero

1061
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: zero thought process. What the young boy say, crash out,

1062
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: crash out? Man, My wig was short. I didn't I

1063
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: just know, you know, I just like I said, there

1064
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: was no there was no thought process. Now it ain't nothing.

1065
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: This is dope. It's like people think like that's that

1066
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: I had been through and the people saw the like

1067
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: the way I play the game and this that and

1068
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: the like then on this first yeah, the way this

1069
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: is doing this first dog and anything else, Like people

1070
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 1: ask the old saying like would you rather be feared

1071
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: of love? And a man feel last a lot longer? Dogs?

1072
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 3: I feel this and I've always heard Listen, this is

1073
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 3: this is what I've gathered, grown, what I've got Afraid

1074
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: of the dark the men. The men want to be feared,

1075
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: the women want to be loved. You know what I'm

1076
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 3: saying as a as a man like gonna love me

1077
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 3: be scared.

1078
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: Remember me punching in your Yeah, you ain't gonna remember

1079
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: me hug us hugging it out dog. Listen, you might

1080
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: forget it. You might feel like we didn't hug it

1081
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: out before. You might do still do some disrespectful right

1082
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: if I didn't punch you in your before, or there's

1083
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: a thread of me punching in your You're not gonna

1084
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: do it.

1085
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 3: Man, it's a great podcast. Kill you not, bro. I

1086
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 3: believe that man like that. No, that's like you're.

1087
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: Gonna you're gonna understand that one. That's story. I could

1088
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: be I could be dead wrong in the situation. Bro,

1089
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: I tell people I could be dead wrong, and this

1090
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: is the talk about it later.

1091
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 3: This is why, And honestly like, this is why. This

1092
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: is why I got to the NBA and and just

1093
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 3: touch on it. This is why I got to the NBA.

1094
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 3: And I wasn't used to the way some people were

1095
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 3: talking to people. I used to be like, hold the

1096
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 3: fu out, man, wait a minute, but it wasn't never

1097
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 3: to me. But like you said, it's my teammates and

1098
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: I can't let you disrespect him like that same situation, bro,

1099
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 3: Because I'm looking around, like where where.

1100
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: Do we get name situations.

1101
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 3: Like where I'm from. We understand that's consequences for the

1102
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 3: that you say. Told I don't think just because we're

1103
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 3: in basketball. You know what I'm saying. Squashed my befk,

1104
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 3: I put my I squashed my beefk. I came on,

1105
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 3: I squashed it. We squashed it.

1106
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: We cleaned up.

1107
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 3: Yesterday, I went on the podcast Out the Mud and

1108
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 3: t A and Zebo, who I respect as men, put

1109
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 3: my coach and say, man, how can we squash this?

1110
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 3: And we talked about we talking about Kevin Garnet and

1111
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 3: we talking about and I say, you know what, Kevin

1112
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 3: Garnett on this podcast the other day, and that's this

1113
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 3: is this when I say I'm puting that big Kevin

1114
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 3: Gunnett on this podcast the other day came out and

1115
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 3: he said some things about me that was that was

1116
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: that was real, like some real solid Yeah, you know

1117
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: what I'm saying about. How you know when the locker

1118
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 3: room got a little sideways and if I was around

1119
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 3: and Jimmy different and he gave me some flowers.

1120
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1121
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 3: So I said to myself, and it had been on

1122
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 3: my mind because, like I told you earlier before we started,

1123
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: I'm at the point in my life I just want

1124
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 3: to get money and take care of the people I care about.

1125
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 3: Ain't got time for that now. If you disrespect now,

1126
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 3: I got to deal with you accordingly. You know what

1127
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But I'm not looking for that at all,

1128
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 3: A bully demonstrate, you know what I'm saying. So, Kate, Kate,

1129
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 3: kg Man, we straight Me and Paul we still got

1130
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: some work out, and I said, I'm beeting honest.

1131
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: I dig it. Me and me and kg cool. Now, Yeah,

1132
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: I was I'm saying, hey, they started to start this man,

1133
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 1: who you talking to? Man? I used to say that

1134
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: to who the hell are you talking to? I had

1135
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: man put a name on it, bro, who you talking

1136
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: a name oncause I don't want to take it the

1137
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: wrong way that you're talking to me too. I'm like,

1138
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: let me just make sure I don't want to take

1139
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: it the wrong way. I agree, I who you talking to?

1140
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: Which number out here? Please? But it wasn't never directed

1141
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: towards you right now? Yeah? That was all that porch,

1142
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: yeah porch. Yeah, so get off of it. Yeah, been

1143
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: off the porch. What a long time man. It's just yeah,

1144
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: that used to buy. Like then, when you're doing to

1145
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: certain people and you, like you, you want your teammates

1146
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: this like nick, who you talking to? And then mother

1147
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: just sit there and act like you just work.

1148
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 3: But but but but the kind of players we is,

1149
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: we just need our teammate just to make one move

1150
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 3: and we there. I just need him to make one

1151
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 3: move and I might get I might beat him to this,

1152
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 3: like you, I just need him to do make one

1153
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 3: move and so we could get it.

1154
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: Popping was the mother saying, go, you gotta be a

1155
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: willing to participant in your own rescue. Man. Hey, man,

1156
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta help, like you gotta say something.

1157
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: I got your bag, but I just need you to

1158
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: just make one move. If you say something wrong, I'm here.

1159
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: You're gonna be Hey, You're gonna be playing thirty two

1160
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: pickup out this bitch. So listen that so so thirty

1161
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: two pickup what?

1162
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 3: But now at this point, dog, like I said, get money.

1163
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: With the people.

1164
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 3: I love being the start of trouble man, So I

1165
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 3: go now. And it's been the last couple of days,

1166
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 3: and we talked about it. Man, me and KG, I

1167
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 3: hope we crossed paths. Man, we can hug that we're

1168
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: gonna hug, but we can shake that dock. Me and

1169
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 3: Paul we got some straight we'll figure out though. Because

1170
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 3: this space she in now. Brother, Yeah, you tell the truth.

1171
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 3: You're gonna do a whole.

1172
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: Lot of hugging it out then if you're gonna be

1173
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: doing this, becuz you going your truth telling this space.

1174
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: You all in now. And these dudes walk around with

1175
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: their panties in a bunch, dog, so get ready. Yeah,

1176
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: I didn't have the last week. I didn't have three

1177
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: separate conversation with three different people by some shot and said,

1178
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: so now I'm the dude to listen, you send the message.

1179
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: Were gonna talk like I'm not, I said it, So

1180
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: for that, tell me I'm wrong. That's when I said,

1181
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: you're talking about it. Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me

1182
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: I'm wrong wrong, and if I'm wrong, and then I

1183
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: can I can accept that. But more than like lighting

1184
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: in the situation. So yeah, I don't speak on I

1185
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: don't speak Who is the team that you wish you

1186
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: could have worked with longer? A teammates j kid Man.

1187
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: It was interrupted by business. Management changed over, so me

1188
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: going to the Western Conference at the time when I

1189
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: when I signed my contract to go to the Diner Nuggets,

1190
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: I was the fifth best power for fifth or sixth

1191
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: best power forward.

1192
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 2: Then and by the way, yeah, by the way the

1193
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: power forwards in the league at that time.

1194
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: So just that single decision because management didn't want to

1195
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: pay me, ownership didn't want to pay me. Rather management did,

1196
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: ownership didn't. My time with Jake Kidd was cut short. Yeah,

1197
00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: I stayed with Ja Kidd. I'm perenial All Stars. It's

1198
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: first team, second teen thirteen All NBA opportunities. So it

1199
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: was a lot of implications with not being able to

1200
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: like longer with Jay kids. I'm saying that we two

1201
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: finals just lost to Detroit. We thought we were right there. Yeah,

1202
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: they beat us overtime, chance to hit a half court

1203
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:22,959
Speaker 1: shot to lights, so like that, right, so we're right there,

1204
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: and then ment ownership make a decision not to pay me.

1205
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: So now I gotta go. Yeah, that is crazy, man.

1206
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 2: You go number one picking the draft and two years

1207
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: later playing.

1208
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,919
Speaker 1: The finals, make an all star team, making all star teams.

1209
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Don't pay you, that's crazy, right, Like where

1210
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: they like decided, you know what we gotta Yeah, we

1211
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: got a better product without what's the goal, right, you

1212
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: know we've got a better product without this morning, we

1213
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: just picked one. Like no progression, right, that's what they

1214
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: want to see. Right, Every year back to back finals

1215
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: all started like next year's going. I mean that's just

1216
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: to check immediately. Yeah, come on, man, it was not

1217
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: day there to cut off. It would happened the year

1218
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: before I would even got to it. I would have

1219
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: never got it. I would have never gott an open market,

1220
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: never got it would have been after three, After year three,

1221
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: you would have been the max extension boom right there. Absolutely.

1222
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: What's the best advice you received from a teammate or

1223
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: a coach? Teammate, uh or coach? The best advice? I

1224
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: like the Hugs told you when he recruited you. Oh yeah, no,

1225
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: that that's that was the really like so y'all went.

1226
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: So the people Bob Huggins recruited me told me wasn't

1227
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: go give me nothing but a hard time and a

1228
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: pair of tennis shoes, and you're crazy signed up for

1229
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: everything else you got to earn. It was either there

1230
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: to go practice with John Chaney them at five in

1231
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: the morning. Bro, don't play basketball. I was bro like

1232
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: my body on my feet on monument. Listen. That's what

1233
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: I had to learn from Mike.

1234
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 3: I had to learn from Mike how to get up

1235
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 3: at five am and go to the gym because that

1236
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 3: was not a part of my life. But that was

1237
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 3: at eighteen. That was he was doing that. Yes he was,

1238
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 3: and he grew up in the gym I had. Yeah,

1239
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 3: he used to think he was like listen, dog, listen,

1240
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 3: we in college too. We in college was shooting in

1241
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 3: the snow, were going out. It's a party time, Hey, killer,

1242
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 3: what you're doing going to the gym.

1243
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: Hey, came up.

1244
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 2: One thing I didn't like with school, brother, I was

1245
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: trying to get the bottle there.

1246
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: Which I didn't like this either, but I wasn't that good,

1247
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: so I had to stick around. Got this, Hey, I wasn't.

1248
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: Let listen one thing for sure, two things. Listen. My

1249
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: freshman year, I went to every class. I wasn't that

1250
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: good at basketball, right, this is real. I wasn't that good,

1251
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,959
Speaker 1: played three and a half everyge three and a half

1252
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: points whatever. Sucked as a freshman yeague, which the number

1253
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: one team in the country when I got there, I

1254
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: went to every class, made the Deans list all. My

1255
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:59,479
Speaker 1: sophomore year was still going miss here and there. Junior year,

1256
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: what a little less here and there? Senior year, boy

1257
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: on campus, listen, is he en road? And it went

1258
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: like I was hiring neither. I'd be in the basketball office.

1259
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: I'd be in the gym working on my game. Like

1260
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: when don't you supposed to be Yeah, I'm supposed to

1261
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: be in class. But see your senior year with my

1262
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: freshman year, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1263
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 3: So that was what time of day you walked into

1264
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 3: the basketball office. He was just happened to be at

1265
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 3: this fuck. I was like, what is going on?

1266
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: Hey? Man? Where that blue car? That man? The man?

1267
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: They ain't shit that check that card yet. You know

1268
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about to right, Hey, they ain't shit there.

1269
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: He ain't hit that pro Trust card yet. Man? What hey? Hey,

1270
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: where that god damn pro Trust card? At man? You

1271
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: know what, I don't know if I'm I don't. I

1272
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: don't feel good today's. I don't know if I'm gonna

1273
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: be able to play today? Bro? Where he where a

1274
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: man I'm trying to go to. I need these j's.

1275
01:03:55,240 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: Hey they late the pro Trust car trust card? Yeah yeah,

1276
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: here is every one day? When the when when one

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01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: day with the door knock, seen it with my own eyes.

1278
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: I guess what I told him? He scared me.

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Speaker 3: Cut it cuts you gave it to you. I don't

1280
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 3: want to know nothing. Run it put me down. I

1281
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 3: want to put me down. Nothing that I had earned

1282
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 3: that money? One bring. I don't hear no words. Yeah

1283
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 3: hear nothing. He get up, he go to the door.

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01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: He just come back. Ain't nobody say yeah, I only

1285
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: know if he came back full cash. Hey, Hey yeah,

1286
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: I need it all jack man my time yo. And

1287
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: then when I and then the mass like when I

1288
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: got hurt, right the flood gates like people just it

1289
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: was coming from every direction, like hey, what you need?

1290
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: What you want? What you need? What you want? What

1291
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: you need? Where you want to go? You want to

1292
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: go here? You want to go? You want to go?

1293
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: Hear you? I got what is you need? This? You

1294
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: want this? Hey you got man, I ain't won't this? Man?

1295
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: Listen well for everybody they Mama was trying to get

1296
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: on that train. I'm gonna go over here. Still.

1297
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 3: You know how that pro trust card still work? Pro

1298
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 3: trust card still work? Jack School. I went to school,

1299
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 3: I say, man, I'm gonna do right. I went to

1300
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 3: all my classes. I tried to do all that well.

1301
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 3: When them grades came back and said this ain't it.

1302
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 3: I got a cheat.

1303
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: No, you ain't cheating. You ain't trying. I said, if

1304
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: I ain't cheating, I ain't trying because this ain't it. No.

1305
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: I tried, killer, you know we both tried. We man, bro,

1306
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: you was all you was on eight months. I was

1307
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: a short time on campus. Man, y'all know that school.

1308
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: Ain't go to class either. I ain't never go to class,

1309
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: go to class. They made me sign up. We made

1310
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: it start.

1311
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 3: He go to all the workouts. Though we got to

1312
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 3: run at six a m. He run like a got

1313
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 3: six a m. He can't go to class at two

1314
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 3: thirty pm though.

1315
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: Got it? My boy Jay Will said, he sit on

1316
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: the podcast.

1317
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: He had a story where coach Donal came to me said, hey, man,

1318
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: like you gotta start going to class or you're going

1319
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: to show.

1320
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: Run six am every morning? He said, see him about

1321
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: six am, coach. Yeah, I made my mind up, except

1322
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: this is not this is enough up for debate or negotiation.

1323
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: Not going. And my mom was a teacher. My dad

1324
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: was a principal. Didn't be the worst one. I had

1325
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: to tell back the worst one. What was you going

1326
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: to school in high school? Yeah? I had to show

1327
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: that to my dad would with my ass. Okay, it

1328
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: was really good. Now my mom was a teacher. My

1329
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: dad was a principal. I don't know. Oh that was worse.

1330
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: Not being the principal, though. Yeah, everybody feared the principal,

1331
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: no doubt. You imagine him being your dad.

1332
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 2: Think about how angry that my principal worst thing going worst? Yeah,

1333
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 2: I think about how angry and he was when he

1334
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 2: came home, deal with all.

1335
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: Them what we had them good grades. So he was

1336
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: all right. I had to hey, bro, I appreciate you

1337
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: coming in here for real. It's real, man's doing it right, Man,

1338
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,919
Speaker 1: appreciate you having me man this week ago. You're coaching now?

1339
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because this is the evolution we talked about

1340
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 3: to punch you in your lose all thirty two pickup.

1341
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: Now, let's talk about the evolution. Don Let's talk about

1342
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: who you are. Now. Let's talk about the woos before

1343
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: we got me woo sign. So you grow, man, you evolved,

1344
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: and like everybody'll see the tattoos and the clips and

1345
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,439
Speaker 1: hanging on the rim and certain shot and dead. But yeah,

1346
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: you grow. And I'm coaching fifth grade girls basketball, man, love,

1347
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm working on my inner being and on trying not

1348
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: to always be on edge with people, right yeah, so

1349
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: gotta gotta handle the little girl with white gloves. Right.

1350
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: So it's me giving back and me working on my

1351
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: myself at the same tas Because they asked me if

1352
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: I want to coach as little boys the same age,

1353
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: and I told him not a chance. One of them

1354
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: go's gonna be the first day. Maybe Coach Martin called

1355
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: me a little more daddy you know how to respond

1356
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: to it. So hey, hey, hey, you're actually you're actually

1357
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: for your situation.

1358
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 2: It's actually good because if you started getting a little

1359
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: older and then the boy parents you strangle.

1360
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 3: You can imagine if you have a bunch of fifth

1361
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 3: grade girls with your mentality you.

1362
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: Got yourself to work with. What a bunch of fifth

1363
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: grade girls that they got hit meal, You ain't losing

1364
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: the game. Fifth grade team playing thirty two pickups, taking

1365
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: the show on the road, killer and my dog like

1366
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: she she's a tall girl for her age, she's the

1367
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: fifth grade, but she like she plays down here showing

1368
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 1: on no other way, bro. One game is a little girl

1369
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 1: like she's like dad. They keep reaching for I said,

1370
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: just go straight because she's trying to she's trying to

1371
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: go around me. I said, just run straight to hear

1372
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: and she won't do it again, right, just pool pull

1373
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: and hit the little girl boom and kept going. The

1374
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: little girl hit the floor and they stopped the game.

1375
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 1: And my daughter said, I said.

1376
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 2: I I got I gotta get.

1377
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: Foot of this. She looking over there and me, I'm alright,

1378
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 1: like this man out of his mind, Like she won't

1379
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: do it again. Trust me. I love it. Keep reaching daddy. Yeah,

1380
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: she won't do it again, he said, run through, Sure,

1381
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: run right through it. Don't love it? Turn over, I

1382
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: don't you kick it out of bounds. I love it,

1383
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: I love it, I love it.

1384
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:21,759
Speaker 3: It's been this has been my favorite podcast. You boys

1385
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 3: keep doing this, man, what you're doing on the podcast level? Man,

1386
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 3: Love y'all boys getting on that doing your thing.

1387
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: Man.

1388
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,759
Speaker 3: Shout out to Gil, shout out of all them boys,

1389
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,560
Speaker 3: Man brand and everybody.

1390
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: Tune in Man, Gils arena subscribe. Man on the way

1391
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: to a million man. Yeah, love, Yeah, this is is

1392
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: going well, man, But you guys on your way, y'all

1393
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: doing great space, man, great opportunity for y'all to show

1394
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: a different side of what people might think of y'all. Man,

1395
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: Sure listen, ain't like so keeping ain't nobody like? You?

1396
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 1: Still don't like me? So how much do you careero? Yeah?

1397
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: Not not one. You can't beat me.

1398
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 3: So, yeah, you know, as long as you'll come up

1399
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 3: with like I tell you, I always love to be

1400
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 3: Nico Harris for a day.

1401
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: You come up with that. If you won't, what, it's

1402
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: not gonna be the narrative all the time. I know

1403
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: we got to go there. Yeah, let me just say that,

1404
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 1: like people leave people like alone because it's not gonna

1405
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: be the narrative that you think I'm finna come up

1406
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: and say this, and you know you're not because you're not.

1407
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 3: Because it's evolved as we are, we still don't think

1408
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 3: like regular people now.

1409
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: All, so therefore leaving lead people alone.

1410
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 3: Man, people like us alone. I'm as my father's child, I'm.

1411
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: My mother's child, and you do don't be hey, don't

1412
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: be mad at the outcome, be a confrontational, get it on.

1413
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 1: So we appreciate you, brother jim Oh, he's out appreciating

1414
01:10:41,680 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: one of my favorite shows. Man, Mamma