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Speaker 2: Good afternoons, Stealer Nation, it's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. Question you learn. Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: on this Wednesday, as we've got plenty to get to.

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Speaker 2: As always, we're going to have some Super Bowl conversation.

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Speaker 2: We're going to continue with our position group report cards.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll get to some of your tweets. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to Chris Halleck about ten to fifteen minutes from now.

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Speaker 2: But Matt, as we will continue to do as long

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Speaker 2: as it's pertinent the news of the day.

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Speaker 3: There we go, great way to start. That's our leadoff hitter.

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Speaker 2: Our leadoff hitter here today is a perhaps a new

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Speaker 2: favorite in the clubhouse. This is the part where I

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Speaker 2: do the disclaimer that we're always going to do. We

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Speaker 2: have to yea until we state that this is officially official.

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Speaker 2: Everything is still just in the report stage. Okay. Now,

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Speaker 2: they're credible people. We're not just pulling this off of

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Speaker 2: you know, the Sixsburg fan accounts on Instagram and Twitter

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Speaker 2: and all that. These are from credible reporters. But they

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Speaker 2: are still at this stage just reports, but it sounds

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Speaker 2: like the Steelers could be potentially circling in on their

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. Brian.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It's a tough one.

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Speaker 2: Angelico, I believe, is how it's pronounced. Jellico, But I

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Speaker 2: believe I went back and looked at the Vikings pronunciation

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Speaker 2: guy and they have it, and Jalico is how he

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Speaker 2: pronounces this. His last name. So Brian Anglicou, who has

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Speaker 2: uh who has been the Vikings tight end coach and

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Speaker 2: has previously worked with Mike McCarthy for three seasons in

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Speaker 2: Green Bay. He's also a former pit assistant, so has

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Speaker 2: some Pittsburgh ties, and it sounds like he is in

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Speaker 2: town or was in town yesterday, and this could potentially

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Speaker 2: be the Steelers offensive coordinator higher you know, maybe even

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And another report was Scott Tolzene is gonna hang

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Speaker 3: with the Yeah. Yeah, so he's probably out of the

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Speaker 3: running massive Wikipedia scouting here obviously.

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Speaker 2: I mean he was also passed tight ends coach and

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Speaker 3: That's an important aspect of it because as we've kind

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Speaker 3: of laid out through this whole cycle, there's kind of

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Speaker 3: offensive dudes. Running back and tight end coach aren't as

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Speaker 2: Line line and yes, quarterback of course, you know, and.

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Speaker 3: Those guys are you know, usually go from tight end

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Speaker 3: the tight ends coach, I mean that that's that's nothing

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Speaker 3: so great. The passing game coordinator says a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's that's a legit title. And and teams don't throw

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Speaker 3: these titles around because it also does mean more any

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Speaker 3: more status, you know, more responsibility in the room, more

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Speaker 3: responsibility on game week, things of that nature. Doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: he has no involvement at all in the running game,

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Speaker 3: but he has a specialty that he's in charge of.

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Speaker 3: And the little homework I did on him this morning,

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Speaker 3: besides the background that you mentioned, is their head coach O'Connell.

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Speaker 3: Name slipped my mind for a minute. Who's a very

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Speaker 3: for me. And things didn't go great for the Vikings

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Speaker 3: this year, but everything up until this point has been tremendous,

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Speaker 3: meal in Minnesota. But O'Connell has referred to him several times.

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Speaker 3: From what I understand is that's my right hand man.

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Speaker 2: It's outstanding. Yeah, yeahbsolutely is. And I think especially when

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Speaker 2: he's been upfront about that, that is a little different

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Speaker 2: type of an offensive coordinator higher that you're trying to

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Speaker 2: make to compliment that. Sure, and I think this fits

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Speaker 2: just think if you're going to take your first big

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Speaker 2: like he is, you probably want to be calling the plays.

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Speaker 2: I think you want to live and die with what

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Speaker 2: even someone is respected as Mike McCarthy calling the play,

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Speaker 3: Probably would become play callers.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, exactly right. And I think that's a big,

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Speaker 2: telling myself potato leak soup, like I can Nico Oka

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Speaker 2: and Jalico. But it looks like that is kind of

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Speaker 2: the he's kind of the leader in the clubhouse for

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Speaker 3: And again these are reports and whatnot reports. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that could happen soon. Yes, absolutely with that, Matt, there's

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Speaker 3: not many spots left in the coordinator world.

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Speaker 2: Not many spots left in the coordinator world. It is crazy,

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Speaker 2: as you pointed out, I think it was yesterday like

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Speaker 2: the now, the longest tenured offensive coordinator in the league

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Speaker 2: was hired in twenty twenty two. It's nuts, that's insane.

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Speaker 3: There's so there's three of them that are either hired

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Speaker 2: I retweeted your tweets pretty quickly.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Mike Klay put that.

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine of the current thirty two NFL offensive coordinators

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Speaker 3: Twenty four or later that was, I mean that's a

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Speaker 2: Stenovich and Phillips are the two longest tenured offensive coordinators

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Yeah, that's why.

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Speaker 3: And who are the three teams? Again? Green Bay Indye

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Speaker 2: Who's so, Cooter is the colt Jim Bob Cooter is the.

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Speaker 3: Colt okay, yes, and the head coach calls a player

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Speaker 2: All the three are all with offensive head coaches Mike

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Speaker 3: So yeah, they're all like if they were to hire

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Speaker 2: You better learn, Matt Waiams.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, offensive coordinator is like the shortest term

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Speaker 2: That's crazy, it's crazy, that is a that's a mind

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Speaker 3: So I'm guessing, you know, just to paint the Steeler

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Speaker 3: or four years before someone tries to poach them, which

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Speaker 3: would be an eternity. You offensive coordinator, You're just like

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Speaker 3: Defensive head coach are not going to promote you. You know,

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Speaker 3: Bucks lost a couple and if you're bad, well you're out. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it is a short

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Speaker 2: The Winter Olympics open in Italy on Friday. The last

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Speaker 2: time the Winter Olympics opened four years ago.

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Speaker 3: Only guys maybe yeah, yeah, that's at the same job.

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Speaker 2: The last time the Winter Olympics opened four years ago,

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Speaker 3: Now, that's a play caller. That's offensive coordinator title from

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Speaker 3: the Andy Reid play Callers or whatever been there forever

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Speaker 3: exactly right. That's the problem. You know, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Uh, last kind of news of the day that I

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Speaker 2: our buddy Chris Hallick. Sounds like we're not out of

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Speaker 3: Oh I didn't hear this.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the Vikings in that vacant GM job.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I guess a new one popped open.

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Speaker 2: His name's Alex Lewis. I believe he is the athletic

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Speaker 2: reporter for the Vikings. So he's like the Mike the

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Speaker 2: And he reported a list of their top candidates.

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Speaker 3: And Andy wide only GM job open, right.

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Speaker 2: And Andy Widel was on that list of their top

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Speaker 3: Okay, so obviously he's not alone on the list and

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean he's definitely getting poached. Again. I'm rooting for him,

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Speaker 2: Same. It sounds like they're reporting George Patton of the

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Speaker 2: Broncos is the favorite in the clubhouse right now, but

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Speaker 2: the process is just getting started. Yea. And Andy Widell

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Speaker 3: The Broncos have done a magnificent job of rebuilding that

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Speaker 2: You remember two three years ago, I thought they're going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they had just just heard this on

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Speaker 3: be more Super Bowl related. But Seattle traded Wilson for

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Speaker 3: stud corner slot guy. That's what they got for Russell Wilson. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: Denver gave up all those picks on Russell Wilson and

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Speaker 3: a huge contract. It was like the Watching deal before

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Speaker 2: And this is not to try and sound like a

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Speaker 2: But that's why I laugh when people are like that.

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Speaker 2: George Picket's trade might be the worst trade of all time.

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? The Broncos. The Broncos gave up

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Speaker 2: four quality draft picks, big time picks, four big time

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Speaker 3: Got all year starting on Sundays. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That also, I think is a good lesson. And things

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Speaker 2: as good it as you think they are. Now, you

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Speaker 2: can always fall back quicker than you expect. You can

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Speaker 2: always catch up and get back into it.

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Speaker 3: And you remind people. I know Pickens had a phenomenal year.

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Speaker 3: Good for him. He was a deserved program, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: But when we start doing mock drafts and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: second and get this receiver? I like guys be pretty

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Speaker 3: happy about the draft anal that's sitting around right now.

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Speaker 2: When even more smoke than theyre already is around. Some

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Speaker 2: of his cantankerous nature of contract negotiations.

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Speaker 3: Yes, now things get sticky for Dallas. What do you

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Speaker 2: George Pickens is doing some interviews on Radio Row this

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Speaker 2: week talking talking about yesterday's price is not today's price, okay,

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Speaker 2: and that number's gone up after the year that I

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Speaker 4: No, I'm pretty sure this is this is being a

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Speaker 3: So, Chris, you sent me the other day a very detailed,

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Speaker 2: Big, big text, getting right into it, getting his getting

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Speaker 4: Yeah, coaches will look at that and be like, I'll

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Speaker 3: Alur's from. I just know he went to Penn State.

439
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Speaker 3: I don't know where his hometown is.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was based off I thought it was

441
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Speaker 2: based off your alma mater or No, it's based off

442
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Speaker 2: where you're from.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, thought House. I know that because I

444
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Speaker 3: know the pit guys never count no matter where.

445
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Speaker 2: And neither do like Zach Fraser didn't count because they

446
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Speaker 2: consider Morgantown as part of that radius.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine a big radius.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine. I would imagine State College is probably

449
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Speaker 2: within so it might not even count as one of

450
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Speaker 2: your thirty.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I had to come up with other

452
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Speaker 3: Penn State guys in the past. Yeah, I don't know.

453
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Speaker 4: I don't think it would. But even even then, alurs

454
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Speaker 4: from Medina, Ohio. That's that's Northeastern Ohio.

455
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Speaker 3: That's it's far or far. Another question for you personnel wise,

456
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Speaker 3: do you expect them to attempt to resign any of

457
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Speaker 3: their own free agents Pierre's before free agency opens. Pierre

458
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Speaker 3: is the one that comes to mind first and foremost

459
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Speaker 3: for me. How would you handle that any inclination, how

460
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Speaker 3: they're going to handle that? And they could do everything

461
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Speaker 3: they want, and the players still might be like I

462
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Speaker 3: at least want to be on the market for twenty

463
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Speaker 3: four hours. You know, it doesn't mean he can get done.

464
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Speaker 4: Pierre could be an interesting one, but he also did

465
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Speaker 4: a lot. That's That's the one thing when it comes

466
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Speaker 4: to these free agents that you know either the Steelers

467
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Speaker 4: want to keep or fans really want the Steelers to keep.

468
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 4: There's a reason why you wanted the Steelers to keep them,

469
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 4: really bad. Yeah, And those players know that, and more importantly,

470
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 4: those players agents know that, and they're like, listen, if

471
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Speaker 4: I'm Kenni's gainwell right now, I am telling the Steelers, Listen,

472
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Speaker 4: I loved my year in Pittsburgh, but this is an

473
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Speaker 4: opportunity for me to get perhaps the biggest contract I'm

474
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Speaker 4: ever going to get.

475
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Speaker 3: And probably the last one.

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Speaker 4: Right, That's what I'm saying, like, like, yeah, this might

477
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Speaker 4: be the chance for him to get literally the like

478
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Speaker 4: the only really big contract he'll ever get.

479
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Speaker 3: And so he's certainly SI signing bonus will.

480
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Speaker 4: Get right, And so you guys might be the team

481
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Speaker 4: to give me that, And that's great, but it would

482
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Speaker 4: I would almost be doing myself a disservice to not

483
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Speaker 4: at least see what else is out there. Pierre might

484
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Speaker 4: be thinking the same thing, because Pierre has been tagged

485
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Speaker 4: as a special teams first or pretty much his entire career,

486
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Speaker 4: and now he goes out there and he puts up

487
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Speaker 4: all kinds of great numbers and coverage and now teams

488
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Speaker 4: are and in a league where teams are desperate for

489
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Speaker 4: a good cornerback, yeah, like they might be willing to overpay.

490
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Speaker 4: And then from the Steelers perspective, you're like, man, it's

491
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Speaker 4: even gonna be worth it to sign him, you know,

492
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Speaker 4: And of course he might think, yes, absolutely do But

493
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Speaker 4: from peer's perspective, again, you have to think from both

494
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Speaker 4: sides here. From the Steelers side, they might be like, yeah,

495
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Speaker 4: let's get him signed and keep him in the house.

496
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Speaker 4: But a lot of the I mean, we saw that

497
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Speaker 4: happen with Justin Field's last last offseason, Like she's had

498
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Speaker 4: a good offer on the table, but he's like, I

499
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Speaker 4: got to see what else is out there, and he

500
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Speaker 4: saw it and took advantage of it.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of money out there and not a

502
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Speaker 3: lot of free agents to give it to.

503
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Speaker 4: Uh huh that. Yeah, the cap is growing escually, and yeah,

504
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Speaker 4: players are gonna get overpaid. They just are. So I

505
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Speaker 4: think they'll try. I think we'll have conversations with with

506
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Speaker 4: some of the more prominent guys.

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Speaker 3: Would top your list.

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Speaker 4: I would think Pierre and Game, well, you can make

509
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Speaker 4: them interchangeable, probably Pierre more than Gamell because at least

510
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Speaker 4: you already have Jaylen Warren in the in the backfield,

511
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Speaker 4: and then you have Caleb Johnson. You can be like, Okay,

512
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 4: it was kind of a rent shirt year for you,

513
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Speaker 4: so to speak, and now you can really kind of

514
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Speaker 4: go along with your development. It's a new scheme. You know,

515
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 4: we'll teach you from from from from scratch. But yeah,

516
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Speaker 4: I would probably think Pierre just because again you have

517
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Speaker 4: Joey Porter Jr. That's a great thing to have. But

518
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Speaker 4: if you can put another guy, stop that revolving door

519
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Speaker 4: on the other side of the field from him, because

520
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Speaker 4: that's all expense since he's been.

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Speaker 2: Drafted, well said absolutely, Chris Aleck with us here on

522
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Speaker 2: the drive, Chris, before we let you go, we do

523
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Speaker 2: have to know Sunday, Super Bowl, final game of this

524
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Speaker 2: NFL season, a champion will be crowned. Who you got.

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Speaker 4: I'm probably still leaning Seahawks here. I know they're the favorite,

526
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Speaker 4: but I just I have a hard time. They're just

527
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 4: they they're so good on both sides of the ball,

528
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Speaker 4: and they have they have a dynamic playmaker on offense

529
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Speaker 4: that the Patriots don't have. In JSN, I have a

530
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Speaker 4: lot of respect for what Jackson Smith and Jacob can do.

531
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Speaker 4: He's a really really special player and he's he's really

532
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Speaker 4: turned into something just he's turned into an eleague player,

533
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Speaker 4: and I have a lot of respect for that. Then

534
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Speaker 4: when you look at what the Seahawks can do on

535
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Speaker 4: the defensive side of the ball, I think they're I

536
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Speaker 4: think the two best teams in the NFL played in

537
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Speaker 4: the NFC Championship last last week, you know, and you

538
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 4: know a couple of weeks ago. But yeah, I'm going

539
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 4: Steahawks here. I think the Patriot I don't think it's

540
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 4: gonna be a blowout. I think it will be a

541
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 4: good game. I think the Patriots are gonna give him

542
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 4: back of a fight. But I'm I'm leaning Seahawks here.

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Speaker 2: I like it. Chris, great stuff, buddy, Thank you for

544
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: us for taking the time for us as always, and

545
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Speaker 2: we'll talk to you here soon.

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Speaker 4: Awesome. Thanks for having me, guys. I appreciate it.

547
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Speaker 2: There he goes Chris Alec DK Pittsburgh Sports. Great stuff

548
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: from him as always. He's one of our favorite guys

549
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 2: to talk with. Of course, you can go anywhere with

550
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: him and and and he can carry on the conversation

551
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: and uh.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be pretty involved with draft coverage and

553
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 3: the prospects and free agents and you know, stuff outside

554
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Speaker 3: the organization.

555
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Speaker 2: He likes. He likes doing all the dork the same

556
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: dork stuff that we like. Yeah, yeah, I mean that

557
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Speaker 2: in the best way possible.

558
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Speaker 3: It's a good mix.

559
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Speaker 2: I like how you I I I literally just wrote that.

560
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Speaker 2: I wrote pond with a question mark, like just at

561
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Speaker 2: the very end, to make a joke about it. You

562
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Speaker 2: went right there right away. But I've gotten I've gotten

563
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Speaker 2: a few of our media colleagues out to our to

564
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Speaker 2: our pond where we play up and up in Cranberry.

565
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Speaker 3: Over the years, anybody's shock you with skills.

566
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Speaker 2: So I've been trying to get Josh Getz off the

567
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Speaker 2: Penguins broadcaster.

568
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Speaker 3: I assume he is a hockey backer.

569
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Speaker 2: He played, he played club at Ithaca. I believe I've

570
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Speaker 2: been told. I've been told he can wheel. Okay, okay,

571
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: I've been told he can wheel. But I tell you what,

572
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Speaker 2: Chris Aleck for being a Texas guy, he was a

573
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Speaker 2: good skater out there.

574
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Speaker 3: He knew what he was doing. Maybe he's like your

575
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: rob King connections, you get coffeeled out there or BORKI

576
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 3: or one of those guys.

577
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Speaker 2: Turky's another one that I've talked about because he doesn't

578
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: live far from that area. But the problem with Borkie

579
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: and gets Off. I've invited them in the past to

580
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: play with us. They're always like, it's it's hockey season.

581
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Speaker 2: It's It's like, yeah to play.

582
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Speaker 3: It's week five the NFL season. I got stuff to do.

583
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Speaker 2: It'd be like the first weekend in October. Like, West,

584
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Speaker 2: you want to come out and play play softball on

585
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: a Sunday, Like, No, I got a game.

586
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, hey, we're having a Turkey Bowl. You

587
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: want to play Like, no, I'm watching the gags.

588
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly right. Some more news to get to

589
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: when we return. Also, Matt posed a very interesting Super

590
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: Bowl related question uh in our in our little group

591
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: chat this morning, that I want to bring up here

592
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Speaker 2: on the show. We'll do that to close down this

593
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Speaker 2: first hour. On the other side, West Yuler, Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: it is the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

595
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Speaker 2: Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: You were two weeks about Drive on your twenty four

597
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Speaker 1: to seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: We've got a super Bowl on the horizon and I

599
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Speaker 2: want to kind of begin conversation along those lines with

600
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Speaker 2: a interesting angle that Matt brought up to me this morning.

601
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Speaker 2: But before we get that, before we get there part

602
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Speaker 2: of me in just a second, couple other notable things here,

603
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Speaker 2: Mark Cabali's reporting. We talked about Frank Signetti Junior being

604
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Speaker 2: added to the staff. Kaboom is reporting his official title

605
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Speaker 2: will be senior offensive assistant for Frank Signetti Junior. Gotcha,

606
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Speaker 2: So we knew that he was being added to the staff,

607
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Speaker 2: but that's now being reported as the role. And then

608
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Speaker 2: Jeremy Fowler tweeting that the Steelers are finalizing a deal

609
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: with Brian Angelico to be a team's next offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: In course of course Jeremy's reporting that, I mean, he's

611
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Speaker 2: you know, senior reporter exactly exactly right. That's that's pretty credible.

612
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Speaker 2: So it sounds like there is a lot of smoke

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Speaker 2: to that fire, and that that you know, could be

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Speaker 2: officially official before too much longer. But just wanted to

615
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Speaker 2: make sure to bring those things up here in the first.

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Speaker 3: Certainly more on that later, But there's one thing I

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Speaker 3: wanted to mention yesterday, and we're sometime this week and

618
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Speaker 3: we were talking to Steeler assistance offensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 3: Scarnekia or Signetti might considering their title chief of staff

620
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Speaker 3: slash offensive assistant. McCarthy has not been the best game

621
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Speaker 3: day coach out there with which is much harder on

622
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Speaker 3: offensive play callers than the head coach.

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Speaker 2: Discincerned does that you only got so much of an

624
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Speaker 2: attention span for so many things at once, And.

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Speaker 3: When they hired I did some homework. When they hire McCarthy,

626
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Speaker 3: I guess Dallas got him someone for that. On game day,

627
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: there's someone in his ear like coach i'd call the

628
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: time out here, you know that kind of thing. And

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Speaker 3: I wonder if one of those two will get that

630
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Speaker 3: game day job because it has not been a strength

631
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Speaker 3: of his over his career. And we have a big

632
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: coaching you know, sample size to go off of. It's

633
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: not the same skill.

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Speaker 2: Set exactly right, And that's I think, honestly on sometimes

635
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Speaker 2: I think some of the best signs of leadership are

636
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Speaker 2: when you can publicly admit your weaknesses and address them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. I only got so

638
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Speaker 3: many minutes in the time in my life, and right.

639
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Speaker 2: Right, I know I do a B and C well

640
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Speaker 2: but X, Y and Z aren't my strong suits. Yeah,

641
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Speaker 2: so instead of being prideful and struggling there, I'm going

642
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: to bring in somebody to pick up a slack, big job.

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Speaker 3: And I got eighty five percent of it covered, you know,

644
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Speaker 3: so I'll hire somebody for the other fifteen.

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Speaker 2: And you know you're standing on those sidelines in the

646
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Speaker 2: middle of those games with seventy thousand people screaming and yelling,

647
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Speaker 2: and you can't hit.

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Speaker 3: And pause on Madden and go grab a beer and

649
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Speaker 3: take it over. Yeah, right, exactly right.

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Speaker 2: It'd be a lot of fun if you could. Though, Matt,

651
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: you posed an interesting question this morning that I want

652
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Speaker 2: to kick around with you, and that is who could

653
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Speaker 2: be the next New England and or Seattle, meaning a

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Speaker 2: team that goes from struggling non playoff team, non playoff

655
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: team struggling. Now, I think the Patriots struggles were certainly

656
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: greater than Seattle's, but.

657
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: They climbed a further distance.

658
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, but we've seen that, you know, we

659
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: saw I think what was it twenty nineteen or twenty

660
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: twenty when the Niners went from picking second in the

661
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: draft to the Super Bowl. Yeah, you know, so that.

662
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: This is enough I went pretty far right away. Absolutely, yeah,

663
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: Washington after Jane Daniels. I mean, so turnarounds aren't crazy

664
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: in this league.

665
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: Like we just talked about, it's never really as good

666
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: as you think it is, but it's never as bad

667
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: as you think it is either. So with that in mind,

668
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: you pose that interesting question, who could be next year's

669
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: New England and or Seattle? I do think we need

670
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: to put some parameters around this first. Yeah, Like, I

671
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: don't think the Kansas City Chiefs can be your answer.

672
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: So it's funny because the NFL six pack podcasts that

673
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: I do we met. We the theme is pick six things.

674
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: So my co host Brian was like, will give me

675
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: your six teams that are most likely to non playoff

676
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: teams to make noise in the playoff, not just show up,

677
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: and I put them in the kind of tears. I'm like,

678
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if these count, but the Lions, Ravens

679
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: Chiefs are the top three, you know, if we're gonna

680
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: do six maybe one of their three windows is closing.

681
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: I mean, windows don't stay open forever either. No, they

682
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: don't know, but they all have had a lot of

683
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: success lately, and frankly, if someone picked each one of

684
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: them to win their division. I would totally understand it.

685
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: I mean, like, you know, so they were three of

686
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: the six right off the bat, and then I put

687
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: the Cowboys by themselves at four.

688
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: Cowboys were one of my first thoughts.

689
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: Okay, I think they're really structured well for next year.

690
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: Because in my mind, you're right, Detroit jumps to mind,

691
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: Baltimore jumps to mind, since Bengals we should talk about

692
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: in this conversation. Yeah, my first thought was the Chiefs

693
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: are kind of their own weird outlier, because that's obviously

694
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: the answer. But they had gone to seven straight AFC

695
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: Championship games and five Super Bowls in there before this

696
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: past season, so I think that's an easy one.

697
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: And all three of those are probably favorites to go

698
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: to the playoffs, at least Baltimore, Detroit totally.

699
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. But my kind of same process was, after

700
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: you get rid of the obvious answers.

701
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, then who's then who's interesting?

702
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: I thought about the Bengals, thought about the Cowboys, thought

703
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 2: about the Colts and the Titans both, and I think

704
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: there was maybe one more, Oh, the New Orleans Saints.

705
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: Okay, so again I had more I had several categories.

706
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 3: I had Dallas kind of standing alone as like number four,

707
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: but the Dogs aside.

708
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: If you went with only teams that like haven't made

709
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: any postseason noise in the last few years, I think

710
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: Dallas would probably be at the top of that list.

711
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 3: So I think Pickens will be back, which is a

712
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: good thing for that. And then they have two first

713
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 3: round picks, no second or third that I and I

714
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 3: think everything else will be defense, defense, defense, defense, defense,

715
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: keep Dak and pickings and and yeah, totally and I

716
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: like where they're at. Then I had their own category

717
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 3: was NFC.

718
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: South Yes, you know, like, yes.

719
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: That's probably the vision most likely to not repeat their champion.

720
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, you could see any of those

721
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: other three, Tampa and Atlanta, New Orleans taking a big

722
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: step forward this.

723
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 3: Offseason, and chances are one of them goes ten to seven. Yeah, Now,

724
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: can they make noise in the next level or who

725
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 3: would be your pick? You can fight about that back

726
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: and forth. I kind of leaned towards Tampa, but I

727
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: like what Atlanta's done with their coaching staff. I think

728
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: the Saints are going the right hand. I think moving

729
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 3: in the right Yeah. Yeah, a good offseason could go

730
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: a long way for them, So I definitely think that. Well,

731
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: I think there's a real good chance there's a new

732
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: South champion, So that counted right away the category.

733
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: That's probably the easiest time like that chances one of

734
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: the when everyone in that division finished with a losing

735
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 2: record last year.

736
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 3: Yes, right, and then the other three teams that were

737
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 3: in the Dallas category, But I didn't think we're quite

738
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: as strong. I think you mentioned all of them, Washington.

739
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 2: Washington was the only one I didn't mention that I'd

740
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: be interested to get your thoughts on them since he Yes, Indy, Yes, Indy.

741
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: We saw it in glimpses last year before the Wheels

742
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: fell off.

743
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 3: What they lose like the last seven in a row.

744
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: But they were like eight and two at one point.

745
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they can get Jones back and get

746
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: similar to where they were. They're pretty good. The Steelers

747
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: when the Steelers played them, that version was a playoff

748
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: caliber tea.

749
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

750
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: They also don't know a first round pick because a

751
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: Sauce Gardener, but they also didn't have sauce Gardner after

752
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: trading for.

753
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: He got banged up a bunch of time too.

754
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: Bengals have Burrow.

755
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: And I've said the Bengals have a lethal offense. Yes,

756
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: if they can just stay healthy and be league average

757
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: on defense.

758
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: Washington was a Final fourteen last year. I still have

759
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 3: some doubts about the defense, and I don't adore the

760
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: coaching staff, but and they out kicked their coverages in

761
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: Final fourteen. But I think their offense gonna be really good.

762
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 3: And I think Daniels is a legit, big time quarterback

763
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 3: if they can keep on the field to the majority

764
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: of the season.

765
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Speaker 4: Agree.

766
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So those three were kind of bundled together for me,

767
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: I'm with you on that one, and then looking at

768
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: like ten.

769
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: Like the long long long shots.

770
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I kind of ended the podcast like, you

771
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: don't need me to tell you the Kansas City and

772
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: Baltimore might go to the playoffs next year.

773
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: But Neil Armstrong, you just landed on the moon, right right.

774
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's no way. On February fourth of twenty

775
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: twenty two, I would have said the Patriots were one.

776
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, they're a mess. You know, they had free agency,

777
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 3: hadn't even hit yet. But I put the Titans, who

778
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 3: you mentioned, and the Giants. There's some striking similarities to

779
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 3: those teams compared to a one year ago version of

780
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 3: the Patriots got the quarterback. They got a first round

781
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 3: quarterback going into a second year. I like Ward better

782
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: than I like Dart, but so be it a big

783
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: time coaching change with an established guy on his second

784
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 3: stint as a head coach. Tennessee, like New England a

785
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 3: year ago, has the most cap space in the league.

786
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: You hit on those couple of nice pieces in the trenches.

787
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 3: Early picks, yep, Okay, you know if someone's going to

788
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: be like a worse the first type of team.

789
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: That was gonna be of the long shot. So like

790
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: of the truly bad teams who won five or less.

791
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 3: Games are picking like an old top six this year

792
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 3: or whatever.

793
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: Like I don't the Jets. It would shock me.

794
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: If I can't imagine, Like the Jets are Brown, if.

795
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: The Jets were a playoff team, and maybe like if

796
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: they were gonna get Dante more somebody like that second overall,

797
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: But I still.

798
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: I can't either.

799
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: They're a year away from being a year away. The

800
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: Browns can't see it.

801
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 3: I can't see it. The same thing. The offense is

802
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: needs a way.

803
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 2: The offense just needs way too much work.

804
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: I think Miami's even gonna go further backwards.

805
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: And they say the same conversation with Miami. If you said,

806
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: so they won seven games this past year, if you

807
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: asked me if they go over under that number, I

808
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: would say they take a step back.

809
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they sell pieces.

810
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: And you know, so, Titans, Raiders, Giants, Raiders could be better.

811
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 3: I just think get coaching Cardinals, no chance, Cardinals, no chance.

812
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: I can't get Raiders to playoffs. I could get Raiders

813
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: being like two games better. Mendoza looks promised.

814
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: I can get Raiders maybe being like a seven win team.

815
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: Maybe were we talking of them this year at this time,

816
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: Like yo, Mendoza had a pretty successful season. This is

817
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: year two. They have a bunch of cap space. You know,

818
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 3: O line's better than we thought, you know, something like that.

819
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean there's five of them that I'm

820
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: gonna write off or so.

821
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: Out of Titans, Giants, Commanders, Saints, who would you put

822
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 2: the leader in the clubhouse?

823
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: Of those four, I think the Commanders are the best team,

824
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure they belong.

825
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: Because, as you mentioned, I mean, if if Jade Daniels

826
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: is healthy the whole season, yeah, who's who's saying they

827
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: make the playoffs.

828
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 3: They've at least done something lately.

829
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: They certainly win more than five games.

830
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think Harbaugh's maybe the best addition any

831
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: of those teams made. It's really that's very still has

832
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: a ton of cap space, so too.

833
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: Tennessee is the one for me in terms of the

834
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 2: worst of first that I would really peg.

835
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 3: I think there would be like the franchise that if

836
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 3: we were doing Titans Nation Radio or we were Titans fans,

837
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: that I'd be most excited about. You know, where this

838
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: could go soon.

839
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: Because again, it feels like you got the quarterback, hired

840
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: some respected guys to that coaching staff. And listen, while

841
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: the Jags were really good last year, the Texans really

842
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: good last year. The Colts look like they could be

843
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: factor once again. That's also a just historically unstable division,

844
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: you know. And yeah, I think the Jags are here

845
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: to stay. I think they got the right coach. I

846
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 2: think Trevor Lawrence is stabilized. I think they'll get Travis

847
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: Hunter back, which is huge. You know. But like the

848
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: Jags won thirteen games this year, if they went eight

849
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: to nine next year, nine and eight, it wouldn't shock me.

850
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 3: Or just pull up go to Pro Football Reference and

851
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: look at the Jags win loss record over the last

852
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: twenty years.

853
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: I mean, it looks like a mountain.

854
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: It's sitting down and clips.

855
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: At downs a lot more values. Yeah, and the Texans

856
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: have kind of been a consistent force for the last

857
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 2: few years.

858
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: But Stroud's in a bad place at the moment.

859
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: What if that continues, what if he doesn't turn it around?

860
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, I Colates.

861
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 3: Might not have a quarterback for the first six weeks,

862
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 3: you know, who knows.

863
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: And if they start three and three or something like

864
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: that or two and four.

865
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: Tennessee's has a lot of similarities to the Patriots from a.

866
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: Year that that's the big You can draw a lot

867
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 2: of those same parallels for Tennessee.

868
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 3: They hit on two or three early picks, you know,

869
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: a wide receiver, edge rusher, and something else, as well

870
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: as three or four free agents, you know, because they

871
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: have the money to add six or seven starters through

872
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: draft and free agency. That can be a lot different

873
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: with a respectable head coach, you know, not a guy

874
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Speaker 3: got fired midway through the season.

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Speaker 2: It is an interesting because I think I think the

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Speaker 2: only teams that we write off in this converse Jets, Brown's, Raiders,

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Speaker 2: Cardinals four.

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00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: Miami's debatable.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 3: We see how things go. But I bet they tank

881
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: it in the way. I bet the off season is

882
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 3: not kind of them, Like I don't think Tyreek will

883
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: be back or you know, they could have big quarterback

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00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: questions like this.

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Speaker 2: I like this conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, real quick.

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Speaker 2: I know, we got just a couple of minutes till

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Speaker 2: we have to go to break. If we were to

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Speaker 2: do the reverse of this, the inverse of this conversation,

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Speaker 2: A lot of people the Steelers, which playoff team, takes

891
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Speaker 2: a significant step back. For me, there's a big one.

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Speaker 2: But it depends on what their quarterback decides to do.

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Speaker 2: If Matthew Stafford were to retire, Oh yeah, I think

894
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: I would too. I think he's got another I mean,

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Speaker 2: he has been so good in the postseason the last

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Speaker 2: few years. I mean he might have been the best

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Speaker 2: player on the field in the NFC Championship Game game,

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00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: might win MVP even last year when they lost to

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Speaker 2: the Eagles in that Divisional round game. Other than Saquon Barkley,

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00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: I think he was the best player on the field.

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Speaker 2: Like he's been great in the postseason for the last

902
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: few years. But if he were to retire a whole difference,

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Speaker 2: you could see them taking a seat.

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Speaker 3: They would make some back huge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe the Eagles too. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That situation man unstable. I think Caroline is going the

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Speaker 3: right direction. But would I bet that they're a playoff

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00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: team next year? Probably not, you know.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, the Eagles.

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00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 3: A lot of people would picked the Steelers. I'm sure, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But I do, like I think there's a difference between

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Speaker 2: a ten win playoff team like the Steelers and a

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Speaker 2: twelve win playoff team like the Rams. But I guess

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00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: the Rams were a wild card. The Steelers were a

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00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: divisional winners. So it really I think.

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Speaker 3: We mentioned thirty one teams. I don't think we mentioned

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Speaker 3: the Vikes. Oh we did not, because they won a

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Speaker 3: lot of games just a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Yes they did. They were a game away from being

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Speaker 2: the one seed, and ye see a year again.

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Speaker 3: They have some continuity coaching position.

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Speaker 2: We're nine and eight this year.

924
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: But the Elephant rooms what's the quarterback?

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, Yeah, what do they do there?

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Speaker 3: Cousins lands there or something like that. But their division

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Speaker 3: is so hard. That's why I kept them out of

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Speaker 3: the conversation too. I still think they're fourth in their

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Speaker 3: division no matter how it chakes it.

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Speaker 2: If the Bears maintain what they've been doing, the Packers

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Speaker 2: get better bounces in the health department, and the Lions

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Speaker 2: just slightly uppick'. That's a real tough The NFC North

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Speaker 2: and the NFC West are just.

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Speaker 3: That's why I think Arizona's no chance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they would probably be the one them in the

936
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Speaker 2: Jets that I would put the chip on of. Just

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Speaker 2: no chance, no chan. Next, yeh fun first hour of

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Speaker 2: the show. Second hour of the show. Let's get back

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Speaker 2: into our position group report cards that we have been

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Speaker 2: that we started this week. We'll also get to some

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Speaker 2: of your tweets before we get up out of here.

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Speaker 2: All that more in hour number two. Yuler Williamson the

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