1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: Zara, Elizabeth, it's you, It's me, Saron Brunette. 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 3: That's right, that's a. 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 2: Listen pal. You know it's ridiculous. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 3: Yes, I do, Elizabeth. I'm glad you asked me. Cowboy hats. 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally ridiculous on birds, super ridiculous. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 3: So you got family in Las Vegas, I do. 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 4: Did they ever tell you about about a little time 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 4: about five six years ago when people were seeing birds 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 4: fly around Las Vegas with cowboy hats? 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: No, par did share this with me. 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 4: Apparently for a while in December of twenty nineteen, people 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: were noticing these. 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: Quote the birds have hats on bro. 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 4: So somebody they recorded a twelve second video in a 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 4: parking lot of these birds like pecking at Dorito's, like 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 4: thrown into a parking lot, just on a normal like 18 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 4: seven to eleven parking lot. Yeah, but the birds were 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 4: wearing cowboy hats, tiny cowboy hats, little pigeons with tiny. 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: Proof. 21 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: There is it. 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: There is video proof, and the videos were shared and 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 4: enjoy to buy millions. 24 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: Well otherwise it's just's yeah. 25 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 4: Now people were like, wait a minute, did he do this? 26 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 4: And then somebody else. Someone else pointed out that the 27 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 4: Wrangler National Finals rodeo was in town, and they're like, 28 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 4: did they do this as like a hype thing for 29 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 4: the rodeo. The Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association had to come 30 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 4: out and say, we had nothing to do with the 31 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 4: pigeons wearing cowboy hats. 32 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: Wait wait, since someone was just a vigilante, yes, as 33 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: pigeon exactly. 34 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police had to come out and say. 35 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: It does not appear to be a police matter at 36 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 3: this time. 37 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 4: The Clark County spokeswoman, they said, I have no immediate comment. 38 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: I didn't know what to do right. 39 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: Some people were worried, so like a veterinarian came in 40 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 4: and said, well, actually, they make a glues for animals, 41 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 4: and I think that they may not be it's not 42 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: obstructing their vision or their ability to eat, So I 43 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 4: think that the birds will be fine. Okay, because apparently 44 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 4: they make this like spargum for birds. I think they 45 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: think that somebody just plopped that on the pigeon's head 46 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 4: and propped it on there instead of using like super glue, 47 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: and you. 48 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: Know, they got some of that like showgirls. 49 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so they they look like there. It was not 50 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 4: that the animals were hurt, Elizabeth, I don't worrying. They 51 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 4: were just upgraded fashion. 52 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 2: Man. There you go. That's ridiculous. Do you want to 53 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: know what else is ridiculous? 54 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 3: Goodness? 55 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, the grape Vine. 56 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: No, no, this is ridiculous Crime a podcast about absurd 57 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: and outrageous capers. Heis and cons it's always ninety nine 58 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 2: percent murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous. 59 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: You heard that, right? You? 60 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: All right? Do you pull something? 61 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 3: The interns? Hold me down. 62 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: There. You're a big road trip guy. 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god. I lived for road trips. That's what 64 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: I did for my birthday last year. I took a 65 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: road trip by. 66 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: Myself, just drove across country. 67 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: That was my gift to myself. I drove across country 68 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 4: all by myself. 69 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: It was awesome. Took me like five days. 70 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: It was love pretty cool. 71 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite things to do. 72 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: I get carsick easily. Oh that's not my favorite. 73 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: Oh that totally. Did it happen even if you're driving? 74 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: That that helps. 75 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm driving, it's not an issue. But I 76 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: also just don't like to sit for such long perme time. 77 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: Twelve hours as long as the world's moving. 78 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: I love the concept of a road. Are parts that 79 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: I enjoy like I like going places that I've never been. 80 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: That's true, things that I may never see again. 81 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: This is true. 82 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: And the life I love is making music with my friends. 83 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: So that's why you get on the road again, On 84 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: the road again, but on the road again, Elizabeth, I 85 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: am band the Gypsies. We go down the highway, making friends, 86 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: best of friends, insisting in the world turning our way 87 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: and our way on the aga. Okay, So I do 88 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: love a good roadside stand or oh that's true. 89 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: You you will make us pull over if I'm ever 90 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: in the car. 91 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: They got a lot of those on the old roots. 92 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: Like strawberries you one o one from the bay to 93 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: l A. Like strawberry stands, cherries and cherries, garlic. 94 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: You'll stop for avocado, artichokes. 95 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll bust it out for vegetables. 96 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: Will get a stop for you. 97 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 2: One time, one of the best discoveries I ever had 98 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: was in an artichoke stand. I bought some seasoning called 99 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: garlic Dude dust. If you can get your hands on it, 100 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: I use it on everything anyway. I like stopping at 101 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: nice rest stops. 102 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: That's true, like nice, what is nice? 103 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: Like that? The ones well lit, clean ones, and they've 104 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: got like every conceivable. 105 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: I like the state welcome centers. Oh yeah, you get 106 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: to the border and the first stop, those are Yeah. 107 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: I always try to hit those. 108 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: Up me too. But I'm talking about like when you 109 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: walk into a convenience store, part of it. They've got 110 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: every snack that's ever been made, all the two thousands 111 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 2: about truck stops and like yeah, and then the rest 112 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: up trucks like amazing souvenirs. 113 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: Okay, yes that truck stops, those are awesome. But the 114 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 4: clean ones, Yeah, you've got to be clean ones. 115 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: What's your what's your go to roads? 116 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 3: Also, I want them to only sell knives, not guns 117 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: a truck stop. 118 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: I don't want guns. 119 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 4: Knives that's cool, yeah, exactly, dolls. 120 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: You can drink the road and I'm buying a shot. 121 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: So what's your road snack? What do you get? 122 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 123 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: You know, I got a sweet too always things that 124 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: you would never touch like in real life. 125 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: Oh we yeah, you know me, I got a sweet tooth. 126 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 4: So that basically means is I get like rare to 127 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: me gummy worms. I'm like, I've never tried, and I 128 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 4: get those or then like I'll get like not only 129 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 4: just thoughts. I'm always been like a bunch of always 130 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: and chocolate eat it all at the same time. 131 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 3: Like I'm kind of like like, yeah, a bad diet, 132 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 3: pre diabetic. 133 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: I get with. I get with the corn nuts. 134 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 6: You like all those savor. 135 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: Things filled with cheese stuff. 136 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the yeah, the cones, the combos combos. There 137 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: you go. 138 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I'm in the car. 139 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 3: Like if hot pocket was a smaller snack. 140 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good and so bad. 141 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 142 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: Anyway, So I wrote a novel about an epic that you. 143 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: Did, a really good one called Drift. I recommend it 144 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: to everybody here. 145 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: I am not celebrating the road trip. I know, I 146 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: take it all back. I want to go on a 147 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: road trip. 148 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 4: But by the way, just how long could you be 149 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: if we were to say, drive somewhere five hours six hours? 150 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: I like five six is a good sweet spot, Like 151 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: when I've driven across country have done eight hours, and that's. 152 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: Just like I've done that with you. I know too much. 153 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: I'm like twelve, You're like, I will tell you hell no, 154 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: I would jump from this car of leisurely thing it's smart. 155 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: I'd never traveled like that. It's pretty took like, how 156 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 4: long two weeks? How long did drive across country? 157 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: Days? But we did eight hours. Yeah, we could have gone, 158 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: you know, shorter drives each day and it would have 159 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: been better. Two weeks. Fine, whatever, it's time to a pig. Okay. 160 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: So anyway, in my book, the protagonist stops at a 161 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: rest stop, a gas station on the grape Vine And 162 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: for the uninitiated, that's technically the Teyhone Pass. 163 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: Yes, it's a mountain separating La from the valley. 164 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: Yes, so it's that stretch of Interstate five between the 165 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: Central Valley between and you know, connects Central Value, Southern California, 166 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: cuts right through the Tahatchepee Mountains. There, stops there, Gorman. 167 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 4: Are fine as I've broken down, and Mini and Bec yeah, Lebec, 168 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 4: I know Gorman and Lebec. 169 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: I'm front down and lots of truck stops, t hone, 170 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: passed home pass, motels, fast food, gas station like that. 171 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: It's come along a lot. Yeah, break down, Oh my gosh. 172 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. When we were like, oh, Tuble goes by 173 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: and there's like a cow skill. I want to focus 174 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: on Libec right now. Though, this is so not a 175 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: place that one checks out on Google street View and 176 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: immediately adds to the best visit. Yes I did. I 177 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: mean I've been there, right, But you know what, God bless, 178 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: I wish the place is even the best. But as 179 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: I went to go Google street View and I was like, 180 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: I was like, this is so much different than my 181 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: normal Google street View for these things. 182 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: Do you know where it gets its name A Frenchman? 183 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, player, there was a dude Peter le Bec and 184 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: it was spelled with like the qi on the end. 185 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: He was a French Canadian trapper in the early eighteen 186 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: hundreds who made his way down to. 187 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 5: Alta, California. 188 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: Then, yeah, he was what was he trapping Ralizabeth, Nauga, 189 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: prized for their high be No, it looks like he 190 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: was after. 191 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 5: Bears, grizzly grizzly. 192 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: So he caught sight of one in the area that 193 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: now holds his name, and he gave chase and he 194 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: shot it under a valley oke and the bear's dying 195 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: act was to maul and kill him. He's oh, you 196 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: got me, come over, come look at this boon to. 197 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 3: The family, so hard at your ancestors. 198 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: It's well he. 199 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: Did shoot the bear. If you shoot the bear, he 200 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: may shoot back exactly. 201 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: He and the bear were buried at the foot of 202 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: the tree. Yeah, by whom I don't know, the locals, 203 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: the local tribe, whoever it was, cut back some of 204 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: the bark on that valley oke and carved Peter Lebec 205 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: l E. B. E c K Killed by an ex 206 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 2: bear October O c. 207 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: T r. 208 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: Seventeen, eighteen thirty seven on the bear spot. They cart 209 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: the and as the years passed, the bark of the 210 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: tree grew up over the carving. And then some fifty 211 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: or so years later a group came upon the carving 212 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: all covered up. They preserved it, and then they reburied 213 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 2: Lebeck and the bear wow into like real. And then 214 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy two friends of the show e Clampus Vitis, 215 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: Oh the Clampers, they put up a plaque reading Peter 216 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 2: Lebeck killed by a bear, October seventeenth, eighteen thirty seven, 217 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: in memory of a pioneer of whom only conjecture can speak. 218 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: Dedicated October fourteenth, nineteen seventy two. Eclampus Vitas Peter Lebeck, 219 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: Chapter eighteen sixty six. So the Peter leb Bec chapter. 220 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: The Bear No, the Peter Lebec chapter is the one 221 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: for Kerrn County, and their website is almost as good 222 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 2: as ours. 223 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 5: Really, it's yeah, they. 224 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: Got way more content. We once got an invite to 225 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: a Clamper event, but I don't know whatever happened with that. 226 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 3: Happened. 227 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: I think I really do want to go to one. 228 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: I do doo. So we got a second invitement for. 229 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: Listening Saren and I want to go to one of 230 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: your events, like we could turn it into an episode. 231 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: We love history and I drink Yeah there it. 232 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: Is perfect Lebec. So there's a Flying J truck stop 233 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: in Lebec. 234 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: Oh, Flying Jo. 235 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: That is a good solid truck stop. They're usually cleaned 236 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: and they got a lot of stacks. 237 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: Second is Travel Centers of America. 238 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, put a pin in the Flying 239 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 2: J for right now. Sure remember it. I'm going to 240 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: take you up the coast to San Mateo, California, located 241 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: south of San Francisco on the peninsula of the San 242 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: Francisco Bay. It was there that the International Gem and 243 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: Jewelry Show aka inter gem In Corporated GYM was held 244 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: at the San Mateo County Events Center in twenty twenty two. 245 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 3: I do love a gem and stone show now, Jemmy 246 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: and jewelry. I don't know a. 247 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: Gem and stone show at a county fair ground. 248 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: That's that's ideal. 249 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: It's like some good. 250 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: Stuff right day. 251 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: Inter Gem is America's longest running direct to consumer jewelry show. 252 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: I did not know that. 253 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: You do? 254 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: Do You learned that from QVC. 255 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: I already knew it. That was that general. I don't 256 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: have to cite it. 257 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: You tell people that. 258 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: I don't have to cight it because everyone just telling 259 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: me the sky is blue like whatever. Started in nineteen 260 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: sixty seven. Of course, it's also the largest exhibition of gems, 261 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: minerals and jewelry in the world. 262 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 3: I was just telling you that the other day. I 263 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 3: can do it too. 264 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: It's good jewelry stores, designers, brokers, they all do like 265 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: a solid amount of business there. 266 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So there's like their big dog events. 267 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: It's supposed to be deal City Deal. So you go there. 268 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: It's like deal bottom price ready for deal visitors. They 269 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,599 Speaker 2: is there in visitors shop directly from manufacturers, really wholesalers 270 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: and design wholesalers direct to me. They sell jewelry loose gemstones, pearls, watches, 271 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: antique in the stage, jewelry supplies, chains, charms, accessories, and zeron, 272 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: so much more. 273 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: Did you find this on an AM radio station? 274 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: I just became like, this is something that like my 275 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: grand you know, retired, maybe love to just poke around 276 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: and go to random sun and eight years old and 277 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: you and the two of you. 278 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: You're going together. We get an air force. I got 279 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 3: an air show there. 280 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes there are special exhibits at these stuff like 281 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: famous people's jewelry. 282 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like Liberaci's rocks, Liberaci stones. 283 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: You get the picture. Yeah you did. So they're having 284 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: one of those shows in July twenty twenty two and 285 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: San Mateo. 286 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: Okay, twenty twenty two, and then a couple. 287 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: Of days later it was moving down the road to 288 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: Pasadena in southern California, in the southland, southern California. 289 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 3: Their next big stop. 290 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so rocks get from to get from San Mateo 291 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: to Pasadena to you know, bedroom communities, most folks would 292 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: take Interstate five five or as you southlander Angelino. 293 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: Say the five because that's what it is. 294 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, anywhere south Freeways. 295 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: Were born in southern California, sorry, south of. 296 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 2: The midpoint in the state. It's the five. We call 297 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 2: it five. 298 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 4: Yes, because it's much better to name highways and freeways 299 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 4: after what they do and where they go. 300 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: So that we're in state five High five. That's what 301 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: they call it. Sacramento. 302 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: Those cakes up in San Mateo sixteen of the jewelers 303 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: and dealers. They loaded seventy three orange heavy duty bags, 304 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: each weighing about one hundred pounds into a Brinx tractor. 305 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 5: Trailer trucks has tractor truck, Yeah, big. 306 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: Boy, like a long daddy. Not one of the armored trucks. 307 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: Oh it's not an armored Is it armored itself? 308 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: No? 309 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: No? 310 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: Okay? 311 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: Interesting? 312 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: What was in the bags? 313 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 3: What's in the bags? What's in the bags? 314 00:14:54,360 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: They they had sparkling gems, loose diamonds, no loose slu 315 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: Rolex watches, the works, baby, one of a kind, dazzler's 316 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: you name it, You name it. Arnold Duke, head of 317 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: the International Gem and Jewelry Show, said of the Hall quote, 318 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: the sheer quantity of gems and jewelry wouldn't fit in 319 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: one car. My question is, what about a super room. 320 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: There's a lot of headrooms. Did you try it? Arnold duke. 321 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think. He don't speak so speaks for itself. 322 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: He did not try, He didn't try and shove all 323 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: that in the subie. At these shows, there are always 324 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: like public address announcements reminding people to tell security if 325 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: they see something fishy. 326 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: S something, say something exactly. 327 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: So the show's manager. Yeah, Brandy Swanson, she actually chased 328 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: a guy down. 329 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: Really. Yeah. 330 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: He was wearing a surgical mask and an ear piece. 331 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty two, so he's asking out of the ordinary. 332 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: And he'd been sitting on this folding chair at the 333 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: X Center, just watching everyone pack up, like the show 334 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: was over and the public had all left. He's kind 335 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: of like an. 336 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: Air about it. And from a folding chair. 337 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: You brought a chair because his legs get tired. 338 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. He's waiting for his dad to pick 339 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: him up. 340 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: She walks up to him, She's like, what are you 341 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: all about? And he was like, I don't speak English. 342 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: You're doing a great job a. 343 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: Lot when I don't want to talk to strangers, perfect accent, 344 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: and they're just like, oh, they ask you something, Oh 345 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: I don't speak English. 346 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: Oh you don't, it's too bad, And I walk away 347 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: I'm gullible. 348 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah no, I just told that. Does it work? 349 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: What do people say when you say that? 350 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: They just kind of stare at me, and I'm just 351 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm gone, baby, I'm already walking. 352 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 353 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: If they're like, will you sign this petition? I don't 354 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: speak English or I don't live here anyway. 355 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: I got to try to live your lifestyle. 356 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: You really should walk. 357 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: Wearing shirts of Pablo Escobar. People think you notice that. 358 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: I see you've got your publish shirt. 359 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, come through ridiculous crime. 360 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: So Brandy she got the guy kicked out. He grabbed 361 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: it girl, he grabbed his chair, and then she watched 362 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: him meet up with another guy in a surgical mask, 363 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: and the two of them scurried off. 364 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: So she told some of the Brinks she's chasing his 365 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: para doctors. 366 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: They're on their way to the r But she tells 367 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: the Brinks people like, it's not a big deal. That's 368 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 2: what Brandy says happened. Brinks is like, she never told 369 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: us anything. I'm signed with Brandon. So there was another 370 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: dealer who went outside to get some air because I mean, 371 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: like your head is swimming. After the dazzling Gems saw 372 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: a car with blacked out windows, including the windshield and 373 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: no plates. I see those all the time on five eighties. 374 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 2: So whatever. The dealer tried to snap a picture of 375 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: it on his phone, but the car peeled out and 376 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: it was too late. Suspicious, but so then the security 377 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: at the facility they also had to run in. They 378 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: found a whole other guy with an earpiece, sunglasses and 379 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 2: a ball cap. Not a celebrity hiding from the paparazzi. 380 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 2: Oh that's what I was milling around outside looking at 381 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: the loading dock security. It was like, get moving. He 382 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: jumped into a Dodge Charger and took off, and the 383 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: security guard managed to get a photo of the car. 384 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: And I must say that if you drive a Dodge Charger, 385 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 2: you're either up to no good or you need to 386 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: get back on base before you leave expires. Zaren have 387 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: you seen my broad brush? It's suppressive. The truck gets 388 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: all loaded up, heads out. This was a tractor trailer, 389 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: like I said, not an armored car. How was it secured? 390 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm so curious. 391 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: How well is one padlock? Oh and a plastic security 392 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: seal on the back doors? 393 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: Are you kidding now? Like a loaded Jordan's. 394 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So the truck had two drivers, James Baby 395 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 2: and Tandy Motley. And the truck. You know, while that 396 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: wasn't armored, James and Tandy they were armed. So this 397 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: is July tenth, late afternoon, early evening. The destination was 398 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: the Brink storage yard around three hundred and seventy miles 399 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: south in Los Angeles. All right, let's stop for some 400 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: ADS's make us some money. Yeah, we have to save 401 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: the Community Centers erin. 402 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 4: Totally when we get back, save this flying jay. 403 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 5: More when we get back, zaren. 404 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: Okay, So James and James and this giant peach ak 405 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: they got they they hop in the truck. You're heading 406 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 2: from San Mateo. 407 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 3: To Pasadena, La Pasadena. 408 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: Three yeah, three hundred and seventy miles south. I guess 409 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: it's La because the show's in Pasadena. But they're going 410 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: to like a warehouse. 411 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah. 412 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 2: So during the during the loadout, James and Tandy they 413 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 2: noticed some dudes watching them, Like, did the guys just 414 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: like to watch him work and stretch them glues? Tandy 415 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 2: wasn't sure, so he goes over to Brandy. He goes 416 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: to Brandy. He says, Brandy, you're a fine girl. What 417 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: a good wife you'll be. But my life, my love, 418 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: and my lady's the sea. 419 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: I understand it completely, and so could say that. 420 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 2: No, he said, Brandy, I don't like the looks of 421 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: those guys. She's like, you know what, I agree with you. 422 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 3: A fine girl, let me tell you. 423 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: But then he's like, this is great, we've established we 424 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: don't like that. But we got to get on the 425 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 2: road by and like drive away. And then Brandy did 426 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: that armpole thing and they hot the horn at her. So, 427 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: in compliance with Department of Transportation regulations, James he went 428 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 2: to sleep as soon as they left. Rude. I hate 429 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: when I'm driving a long distance and my passenger falls asleep. 430 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 2: Really cheeses me off. But I guess the FEDS want 431 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: them to do this so that one is always well rested. Yes, so, James, 432 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 2: he just climbed into the truck's sleeping berth and had 433 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: himself a snooze cruise. Yeah, so, according to Ports, still 434 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: out making into a cozy zone. 435 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, put you know, like. 436 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 3: A little crouchet blank his grandma made him. 437 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, according to Little Dog Ports. The truck pulled in 438 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: for a stop a little after midnight at the button 439 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: Willow Rest Areack Button Willow Man, We've all been there. 440 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: Tandy had to use a little boys room okay, the commode, 441 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 2: and that was around one am. And they stopped again 442 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 2: at two oh five, this time in La bec. I 443 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: call foul on the timing, since fifty four miles down 444 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: five from Button Willow to La Beet. 445 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: That doesn't Work's a big old truck. 446 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: It's not like a supercar. 447 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just doesn't work out. Even though I drive 448 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: like a hundred. That doesn't work. 449 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 2: All of the timing and the court documents was a mess, 450 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: and it makes me wonder what they're covering up Zarin. 451 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: What are the ranks using new technologies the government doesn't 452 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: want us to know about. 453 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 6: That's my question, only logical to the national security apparatus, 454 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 6: but I think they usually have this point pretty good geolocators, 455 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 6: so you'll be. 456 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: Able to I really think that there's some teletransportation going 457 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: on and they don't want us to know stuff they 458 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: don't want you to know. Yeah, teleporting. Anyway, it's two five, 459 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: and for whatever reason they stopped again. 460 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 3: Okay, three oh five would work, but not to. 461 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: Let's say it was five. I think that they got. 462 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 4: Was this a day with one of those fallbacks bring 463 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 4: forward days? You know what, the time you got an 464 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 4: extra hour? This is July right. 465 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: Here's what I think happened. I think that like the 466 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: drivers misspoke and then it got picked up in news stories. 467 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 2: And I don't think they were looking at like official still, 468 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 2: and I think that they left a little earlier than 469 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 2: they said they did. Anyway, So we've we've tracked James 470 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: and Tandy as they cruised the highways of California. If 471 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 2: you are from the bear La, as we said, you 472 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 2: know this drive very well, very very well. I can 473 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: picture the whole thing like I see me doing ninety 474 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: down five. It's just as begs for you. Gotta let 475 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: that pony run, nothing but scrub and cattle and the 476 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: aqueduct around you. Sound asleep in the past, you see 477 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: fuming and like muttering curses that in Tesla doing sixty 478 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: in the left lane. 479 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 3: I'm staying fresh in case I have to. 480 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 2: Drive federal regulation. We've all been there, and now you're 481 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: there there. I want you to bigger it. It's two 482 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: five am on July eleventh, twenty two. You are a 483 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 2: small teenage boy sitting cross legged on top of a 484 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: garbage can, at the gas pumps at the Flying Jay 485 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: in Lebeca, California. You aren't really a small teenage boy. 486 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 2: You're a soul on a mission. You've lived thousands of 487 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: lives over thousands of years, witness hundreds of events, beautiful moments, 488 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: unspeakable tragedies, explosions of joy, low points of humanity. You 489 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: close your eyes as a dancer spared by Djengis Khan 490 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: after his sack of Sammarcan in twelve twenty, and you 491 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: just open them as a young teen and an Afi shirt, 492 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: dirty cargo shorts perched atop a garbage can in this 493 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: strange wasteland. You're facing the Flying Jay truck stop. It's 494 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: well lit, but that light doesn't do much to penetrate 495 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: the dim edges of the truck lot. It's asphalt giving 496 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: way to dry grass and the rolling hills beyond. Attached 497 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: to the Flying Jay is a Denny's. It too, is 498 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: brightly lit, a beacon to weary and hungry travelers. You 499 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: hear a rumble and watch as a large tractor trailer 500 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: truck enters the lot and parks to the side. It's unmarked, 501 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: just plain white as the engine cuts and begins to 502 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: click and hiss in the warm night. The driver gets out. 503 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: He's bearded sturdy. He stretches his back and heads toward 504 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: the Flying Jay. You can see into the Flying j 505 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 2: and watch as he goes to stand in line at 506 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 2: one of the food counters. And something catches your eye movement. 507 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: A black car with blacked out windows slowly rolls up 508 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: behind the truck. You can sense that this is not right. 509 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: The evil and ill intent just hums off the car. 510 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: You stay seated watching Two men hop nimbly from the 511 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 2: car and make quick work of a padlock and plastic 512 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: seal on the back of the trailer. Each tumble to 513 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: the blacktop and skid away one by one. Gently. One 514 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 2: man opens the back of the truck. You see piles 515 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 2: and piles of orange bags. The men look at each 516 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 2: other for a moment. Then one runs to the back 517 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 2: of their car and pops the trunk. The other hops 518 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: into the trailer and struggles to lift a bag. They 519 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: whisper back and forth a bit, and then the one 520 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: in the truck gingerly begins to lift bags, handing them 521 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: down to his accomplice. At first he puts the bags 522 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: in the trunk, but he soon runs out of room. 523 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: He opens the back passenger door and starts tossing bags 524 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 2: into the backs. Twenty minutes goes by. The men have 525 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: run out of room in their car. You watched them 526 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: transfer twenty four bags from the truck to their car. 527 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: They hop into their ride and screech out, their tires 528 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 2: gripping the hot tarmac. A few minutes go by, and 529 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 2: you see the truck's driver return fountain, soda and bag 530 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: of food in hand. The smell of the grease wafts 531 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: your way, and you close your eyes while inhaling the scent. 532 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 2: You don't remember the last time you ate. When you 533 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: open your eyes, you see nothing but blue sky. It's midday. 534 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: You're on your back. You hear hooves on dirt, the 535 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: snort of horses. You're suddenly tipped upright, and you see 536 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: that you're in a wagon. You're on a woman's lap. 537 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: You're a baby. You wear bright embroidered fabrics. Those around 538 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 2: you speak a language you haven't heard. A new life 539 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: for you zerin and you won't find out what happened 540 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: if that truck's. 541 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: Not damn, that's I mean. 542 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 4: I love the time tripping that was awesome. The kid 543 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 4: got killed in the parking lot. 544 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 2: No, no, he closed does it? He ate his size 545 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: and he vanishes, he goes somewhere else. 546 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 4: Is just a new spirit somewhere else, But it's something 547 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 4: like reincarnation, which would imply. 548 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 3: He doesn't necessitated. 549 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: Blinks to reply, he's a soul. 550 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a soul hopper. I love that. The sammar 551 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: can you have me there? Like, hey, my boy. 552 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: So you little boy time traveler. You may not know 553 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 2: what's going to happen. We we find out what happens 554 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 2: or what went down. So Tandy, as we said, got 555 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 2: out to get somebody. 556 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: Sure he was famished, but the other driver stayed in 557 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: the car. 558 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: Snooze cise dudes roll up, stole twenty four bags of loot. 559 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 2: Tandy came back out, saw the security tag on the ground. 560 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: Apparently the thieves took the lock with him, and so 561 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: Tandy like bangs on the side of the truck, wakes James. 562 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 2: He hops out, apparently a. 563 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 4: Deep sleeper because that thing that the trailer had to 564 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 4: be rocking when they hop in the bag. They're moving 565 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 4: stuff and there's multiple men hopping up and down. 566 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 2: Like a face mass. Very noise canceling headphones and like 567 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 2: aromatherapy reeks of lavender in the sleeping cabin. So they 568 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: like they open up the bag and they're fearing the worst, 569 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: and it was bad. The thieves had taken bags from 570 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,239 Speaker 2: the front of the trailer, which is where they had 571 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: put the higher value stuff. Oh yeah, they didn't just 572 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: take the bags of beads door. So and it looked 573 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 2: like that they had seen the thieves had seen it 574 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 2: get low. So the drivers they call the cops. LA 575 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: Sheriff's deputies show up because they're just inside. Wow. Yeah, 576 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: there's bodycam footage available on Daily Mail. Their answers to 577 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: the cops questions are kind of all over the place, 578 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: Like they got the timing screwed up in some of 579 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: the retellings, and they tried to estimate the amount of 580 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: jewelry in the bags, but that's not really their business. 581 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it seems like an inside job. 582 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: Well, they got confused about some of the markings on 583 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: the bag. The whole thing's messy, Like they're rattled. Yeah, 584 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: and you know, they know they're hauling a lot of value. 585 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: I mean, they're probably an to get fired. 586 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: They know they're going to be scrutinized the few days. Yeah, 587 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: and then there's got to be that feeling of like 588 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: literally dodging a bullet because it was like a sneaky 589 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: heist and not at the end of a barrel of 590 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: a gun, so they didn't get got and maybe there's 591 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: like the adrenaline of that. 592 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 3: I thought maybe those guys were anywhere knows. 593 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: Pepper, Yeah, so he needed some Like Carlstenior, there wasn't 594 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: any CCTV coverage in the area of the lot where 595 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: they were parked, which is that's also I'm also wondering 596 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: about the footage from other big rigs because like in 597 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: the bodycam footage, the guy who's in the truck park 598 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: next to the Brinks rig comes out and it's like, 599 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: what's going on off sir and the cops. Like anyone 600 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: I think who spends a lot of time on the 601 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: road these days seems to have dash. 602 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 3: Cam, yes, especially hauling anything worthwhile or. 603 00:29:54,760 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 2: That you have to prove that you weren't tru But 604 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: so we just know that flying j didn't cover that 605 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: part of the lot that maybe it scares away the lizards. 606 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: They don't want to know what goes on over there. 607 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: You no A witness at the Flying j said that 608 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: he heard some of the guys speaking in a language 609 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: other than English to each other, and he was like, 610 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: it wasn't Spanish, because I would recognize that it was 611 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: something else. He was probably all, they didn't say gelopa, 612 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: no pepper or buenos dias, so it's not Spanish. They 613 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: didn't mention the biblioteca. So James and Tandy may have 614 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: seemed kind of hanky, but they weren't sending up major 615 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: red flags when when they kind of investigators looked into 616 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: their lives or like these dud. 617 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 4: There's no weird bank accounts. Stand they're just kind of incompetent, 618 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 4: Like you said, families. 619 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: Like the slow He yeah, as you said, it did 620 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: have the feel of an inside job though. 621 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 3: Right he does. 622 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 4: I mean all the all the facts, I mean, just 623 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 4: the fact that they stopped and they did and where 624 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 4: they did. 625 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: There were thoughts that maybe someone at Brinks tipped off 626 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: thieves as to the route. Sure, Tandy told the cops 627 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: at the Flying Jay that maybe he was followed and 628 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: it could have been thieves working on behalf of one 629 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: of the jewelers running an. 630 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 5: Insurance Oh whoa, I'm like. 631 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: Slow down their Columbos road and let the pros look 632 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: into that. 633 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah right, He's like, then it's going to insurance fraud. 634 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 3: From one of the fellow gymologists, I'm like. 635 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: WHOA, Like, Tandy, you need to take a nap. So 636 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: Brinks said that about eight point seven million dollars worth 637 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: of goods had been stolen. Some of the jewelers and 638 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: the dealers who lost their stuff sued Brinks. I mean 639 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: the truck only had a padlock on it. Here's the problem. 640 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: So Brink said it was eight point seven million, and 641 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: the jewelers supported that in their initial paperwork, but in 642 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: depositions a bunch of them admitted that they very often 643 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 2: low balled the reported value to keep their insurance costs 644 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: down on shipping. What yeah, so. 645 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,719 Speaker 4: They I would rather make less on a on a 646 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 4: theft get paid back so they can make more down 647 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 4: the line. 648 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: It is estimated the actual value of everything stolen was 649 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: around one hundred million dollars. 650 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 3: What, yes, that's not that's not lowbill. That everything that 651 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 3: was lying. 652 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: And that's not everything that was in the truck. That's 653 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: it makes it one of the largest jewelry thefts in 654 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: modern American history. 655 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 3: One of the largest American pieces. 656 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: That they've shown pictures of are pretty impressive. Others, I 657 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: think maybe it's for the best that they're gone. 658 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: Really, yeah, they're kind of. 659 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: No Brinks filed the countersuit. They wanted to limit the 660 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: payout to only yes, sue me, sue you. They want 661 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: they're like, look, you declared a value of eight point 662 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 2: seven million. That's that's what we're paying. And they're like, 663 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: you lied, that's a breach of. 664 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 3: Contract, that's fraud. 665 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's no way around it. Though. The heist 666 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: destroyed some people in their businesses did yeah. In a 667 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: statement upon filing suit, the plaintiff said, quote, everyone in 668 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: our group has and emotionally and financially destroyed. We are 669 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: lost and do not know what comes next in our lives. 670 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: Whatever plans we all have for the future for our 671 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: businesses and our families has evaporated in an instant. 672 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: So that sucks for. 673 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: Them, seriously. In their laws. Are the jewelers there and 674 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: they're all small. 675 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 3: Fanis imagine independent jewelers. 676 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not. 677 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 3: You see it all together with their cases in like 678 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 3: a downtown yes, like plaza. 679 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: It's not every kid jewelers. Yeah, so they were looking 680 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: for one hundred million dollars in damages and one hundred 681 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: million in restitution from Brains. And they said that it 682 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 2: was a Brinx employee who told them to undervalue the 683 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: merch in their pickup manifest quote in order to save 684 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: money because the cost of shipping would be too expensive 685 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: if they declared the full value of their goods. According 686 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: to CNN. 687 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 3: And do they do they name this employee? Imagine you 688 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: kind of have to have that person. 689 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of them, said, so 690 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: I think they're different. 691 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 5: They're saying they were getting it. 692 00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 3: Oh, so that was kind of like. 693 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: It's like a common snake industry. So CNN. Quote. One 694 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: merchant told CNN thirty years of his life's work was 695 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: stolen in the heist. He didn't share his name nor 696 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 2: the name of his businesses with CNN over concerns of 697 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 2: being targeted again. He expressed that he was quote emotional 698 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 2: and speechless and wants quote brings to answer to him 699 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: after losing some collectibles and unique pieces in the theft. 700 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: So you think about it, it's twenty twenty two. COVID 701 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 2: had done a serious number on retail. People got comfortable 702 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 2: buying online. They didn't really want to come back from that. 703 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: Jewelry is generally something that you want to buy in person. 704 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: But it was still a struggle for brick and mortar. 705 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 3: Sure. 706 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 2: And then yeah, these dealers and the jewelers, they go 707 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 2: to the expo. They're hoping to make these sales, keep 708 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: the businesses going. 709 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 3: To pay their rent back home. 710 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 2: Uh. People go to the expos to try and get 711 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: a good deal on the stuff. So there aren't like 712 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: high rollers in the sense that they'll pay top dollar. 713 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 2: The whole thing's kind of hard scrabble for these guys, 714 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 2: and now it's gone. So according to the La Times, quote, 715 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: one of the victims, Malki of forty seventh and fifth Incorporated, 716 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 2: said that telling his children about the theft was the 717 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: toughest thing he'd ever done. Quote. They always looked at me. 718 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: I'm their hero, I'm the tough guy. I didn't want 719 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 2: to break that image for them, so I told them 720 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: everything's going to be okay, but for now we're going 721 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: to have to make some changes. Inside. I was torn 722 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 2: apart and devastated. The article goes on. Malki gave The 723 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: Times an interview over lunch in Pasadena and kept his 724 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: composure throughout the meeting until he detailed the conversation he'd 725 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 2: had about the theft with his children. Malki struggled to 726 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 2: contain his emotions as he shared his seven year old 727 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: daughter's attempt to cheer him up after his disclosure of 728 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 2: the crime. Quote she said, Dad, don't worry, I'm gonna 729 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: have a lemonade stand. She gave me the biggest hug. 730 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 4: Oh man, I know I've dealt with a bunch of 731 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 4: these people because I've sold and been with people to 732 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 4: recommend and go through the process with them selling loose diamonds. 733 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 3: And they are not with people picture you know what 734 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 3: I mean. You know, they're very usually family men, family 735 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 3: women who've been running a business, working with often their 736 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 3: husband or wife. 737 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not flashy. Yeah, And we've talked about this before, 738 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: like how we tell these stories. But there are victims 739 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: on the other end of things, and that's you know 740 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: why we like weed smugglers and those who steal from 741 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 2: the violently. 742 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's easier to write because like. 743 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 2: No one's losing their life savings, no. 744 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 5: One's destroyed, they're just embarrassed. 745 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: Well not here. Yeah, people lost their livelihoods here. So 746 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 2: the detail of the stolen inventory is just staggering. One 747 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: guy lost more than thirteen hundred items that he'd put 748 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 2: together over decades worth at least like twelve million dollars, 749 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 2: and of course he admitted that he only shired it 750 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 2: at a value of four hundred thousand dollars. Oh yeah, 751 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 2: let's take a break. We'll come back. We'll hear more 752 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 2: from these devastated jewelers. And then we've got a little 753 00:36:51,239 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 2: bit of a twist. Nice zaren Okay, So we took 754 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 2: a little break. There more of these jewelers and designers. 755 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 2: There's one an eighty three year old woman, Amy Kit 756 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 2: sing Lung. She operated Hawaiian Designs jewelry, and she said 757 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 2: that her business was totally gone after losing seven hundred 758 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 2: thousand dollars worth of stuff. And she said that it 759 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 2: was only you know, in the manifest, she said it 760 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: was only worth four hundred thousand because anything else would 761 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 2: be too expensive to ship. And what's worse is that 762 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 2: she was selling and shipping for others. 763 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 3: Oh, she's now in the hook. 764 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, because she's eighty three. All these other older vendors 765 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 2: and those who had like compromised immune systems who didn't 766 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: want to go get exposed to COVID. Oh, they couldn't 767 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 2: be at the show, so now their stuff's gone to Yeah, 768 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 2: so three of the fourteen plaintiffs in the suit settled 769 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 2: with Brinks. No word on for how much. Some wound 770 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 2: up suing Flying J too. They said that there'd been 771 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 2: a bunch of thefts at that location and they should 772 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: have had better security, but yet reasonable. Well, February of 773 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, a judge ruled that the examples presented 774 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 2: by the jewelers of thefts at that particular Flying J 775 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 2: weren't like what happened with the Brinx truck. So there's 776 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 2: no way for Flying J to anticipate such a thing. 777 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 4: Okay, this is one of those you have to exhibit 778 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 4: exercise control kind of thing. 779 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 2: So you know, I mean, they could have had better 780 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 2: camera setups whatever, But I mean especially because like think 781 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 2: about the amount of merchandise and goods that sits in 782 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 2: that lot at any young time, like trailers full of 783 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: like electronics, old navy fashions, jelly sandals. 784 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 3: You'll be breaking in. 785 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: Vape cartridges, holiday buntings, decorative figurines, closed soap. Yeah, Zarin, 786 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: there's no telling what's in those trucks. 787 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 5: Diapers given time. 788 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 2: Dipies go on the streets. Yeah, oh, they done so 789 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 2: either way, eggs, eggs. The jewelers, those jewelers are devastated. 790 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 2: Some of them closed their business, others struggled along. And 791 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 2: it seemed to be just an unfortunate and brazen crime 792 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 2: now in the past. But then just recently something changed changed, Sarain. 793 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 2: We've had this wild ride together with this. It's one 794 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 2: of the biggest jewelry heights in US history, right here 795 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: in the Golden State. Can I tell you something though 796 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 2: justice never sleeps, does it not? Does not? I am 797 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 2: happy to report that on Tuesday, June seventeenth, twenty twenty 798 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: five years after the US Attorney Central District of California 799 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 2: unsealed an indictment. The day before June sixteenth, they'd executed 800 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 2: a search warrant and had made arrests in the case 801 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 2: the idea of the Brinx truck heist at the Flying. 802 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 3: Jay Whoa, they stayed and. 803 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: It turns out it was a crew that had been 804 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 2: planning this for some time, like practicing their highest pulling out. 805 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I curious huh, that. 806 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: Happened like just a few days ago, back in a 807 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 2: time when we were recording this. So we just have 808 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 2: the arrest. At some point in the future, will get 809 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 2: a flurry of emails and dms telling us about the 810 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 2: court case and the sentencing er acquittal all. Give an 811 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 2: update then, and then we'll continue to get Instagram d 812 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 2: ms about the results of the case for the next 813 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 2: year or so, even after I give the updates such as. 814 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 3: Life, Such is life. I was really hoping that the 815 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 3: CHP was playing a prominent role on the bus. I 816 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 3: love the HP. I know you do. 817 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 2: You really do. 818 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 3: We have to talk about that. I respect them, you 819 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 3: love them. 820 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 2: I do love them. I've been totally like treated poorly 821 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 2: by the sage. 822 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 4: That's why we're talking about you should not love people 823 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 4: who treat you so poorly. I respect them. You can 824 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 4: respect people who it's a different level. You got to 825 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 4: stop licking them when you're around. 826 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 3: That's where I have to apologize. Got a condition, It's. 827 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 2: Okay, yeh, And I'm like, no leaky, leaky. Prosecutors alleged 828 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 2: that there are seven co conspirators who carried out the 829 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 2: theft Sven. Yeah, the men were each charged with conspiracy 830 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 2: to commit theft from interstate Inflorence shipment. 831 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 3: Could you repeat that more time? 832 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 2: It was conspiracy to commit theft from interstate and foreign shipment. 833 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 2: I got you so nice, I named it twice. Some 834 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 2: are facing additional charges. Who are they? 835 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 3: I just about asked? Do we ever get to the 836 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 3: I could list their names their name, but you won't. 837 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 2: But they've only been indicted, not like convicted. 838 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 3: You don't want to. 839 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 2: I don't want to put their names out there. If 840 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: you're so inclined and you have too much time on 841 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 2: your hands, you can go ahead and get to googling. 842 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 3: Do we know where? Ruffian? Where they come from? 843 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 2: This is exactly what I'm going to tell you, so 844 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 2: thank you. I will say that they're all men, okay, 845 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 2: and I'm going to give you their ages and their 846 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 2: cities of residence. Ah Okay, So thirty one years old, 847 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 2: Pasadenak thirty six years old, Boyle Heights, currently an inmate 848 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 2: in Arizona State Prison. Okay forty one years old out 849 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 2: of rialto. 850 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going with Hispanic. 851 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 2: So far sixty out of Rampart Village neighborhood, Heights thirty 852 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 2: three out of South La. 853 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 3: Okay forty two. 854 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 2: Forty two coming out of Uplands Oppland, Okay, and thirty 855 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 2: six of the Westlake. 856 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 5: Neighborhood of La Wow like Toronto's. 857 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 2: So I will say that if the witness at the 858 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 2: truck stop did actually see some of them there and 859 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 2: heard them talking, then he was wrong about it not 860 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 2: being Spanish that they. 861 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 3: Spoke, yes, because it does certainly seem. 862 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 2: They didn't say gilapino popper. You know as well as 863 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,720 Speaker 2: I that there are many dialects of Spanish. 864 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 4: Suns, and like I couldn't even in countries like I 865 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 4: learned in Colombian, I could start picking up party accents 866 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 4: and be like, oh, you're from Medaine. 867 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 2: Tell, And I couldn't tell from their last names. If 868 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 2: there was a specific shared country of origin, might be 869 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,720 Speaker 2: the United States, to be honest, Texas, But Mexican Spanish 870 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 2: different places is a lot different than Spain Spanish, which 871 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 2: is different than Colombian Spanish, Cuban Spanish Spanish. 872 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 3: It's crazy, and each of these they. 873 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 2: Got their own slaying idioms anyway, back to the purpse. 874 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 2: So if convicted, five of them got would get steeper 875 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 2: charges and could face up to twenty years in federal 876 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 2: prison for each robbery charge. All the defendants could be 877 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 2: looking to at least five years for the theft conspiracy 878 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 2: charge and then ten for the thefts quote. It was 879 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 2: a long time coming, and there were times when the 880 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 2: victims and members of the team wondered whether we see 881 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 2: this success. That's an Assistant US Attorney Kevin Butler talking. 882 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 3: So what happens with restitution and all that kind of stuff. 883 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 2: Like I don't even think they touch on that. 884 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, like, is there any hope that 885 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 4: not that they'll recover the gen sell them. 886 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 2: Some of the stolen jewelry was recovered during the searches. Yeah, 887 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 2: and I feel like maybe they held onto the watches. 888 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 2: That's just conjecture on my part. Liked it, Yeah, but 889 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 2: I think it's great that they were able to get 890 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 2: some of the stuff. Three years on, the Feds also 891 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 2: found a bunch of cash, so there was like fencing 892 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 2: going on. Most of the stolen goods are still missing, 893 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 2: but there's still more search. 894 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 5: Warrants to execute. 895 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,720 Speaker 3: Sure, I believe it may find more stuff. I believe 896 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 3: that will find more people. 897 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 2: May they might find the tackier pieces they couldn't move. Yeah, 898 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 2: So the crews planning for the heist allegedly started at 899 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,280 Speaker 2: the International Gem and Jewelry Show in San Mateo, Tucson. 900 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 2: So allegedly the main guy case the show for days 901 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 2: starting on July eighth, the guy with the chair, yeah, 902 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. July eighth, he found out where they 903 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 2: were going. Next, he watched the comings and goings. He 904 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 2: checked out the wars. July tenth, three other guys allegedly 905 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,760 Speaker 2: cased the Brinx truck. When the truck left San Mateo, 906 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 2: it began what the FEDS were calling, quote a complex 907 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 2: choreography that ended up in lbec. 908 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 3: Very fast and furious. Yeah. 909 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 2: So there were different cars following the truck, taking turns, 910 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 2: getting one to like subtly follow the load. Because the 911 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 2: drivers when they were talking to the deputy showed. 912 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 3: There's the headlights. If it's just the same headlights chasing 913 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 3: around five. 914 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 2: You're always gonna you can go a long way with 915 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 2: like someone right behind you. 916 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 3: Something as if you get off, they get off, you 917 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 3: get off, the get off. 918 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 2: I mean that would be weird, right, And so the 919 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 2: guy the when he talked to the deputies Tandy, when 920 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 2: he was like, I don't think we were followed. I 921 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 2: didn't see anybody. 922 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 3: So they were running rounds on them. 923 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 2: And so they're like they're coming on and off summer 924 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 2: stationed down the highway waiting for their turn to hop 925 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,399 Speaker 2: on tail the truck. They would call each other keep 926 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 2: tabs like this, like mobile logistics operation. Oh, it doesn't 927 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 2: say in the court filing how the crew gained access 928 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 2: to the trailer. Yeah, I'm guessing like bolt cutters are 929 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 2: like a grinder. Which even then, so if they had 930 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 2: a grinder, like James, she didn't wake up. Yeah, and 931 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 2: I think a grinder waking up, I think it's It 932 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 2: doesn't mention if they're armed either. 933 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,280 Speaker 3: So anyway, locks are not difficult if it's just like no. 934 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, they broke into the truck. 935 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 3: You have a little liquid oxygen and break that right open. 936 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 2: And they emptied the bags into the car. And then 937 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 2: the indictment says that they drove to East Hollywood and 938 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,760 Speaker 2: apparently they had no idea how much stuff they'd gained. 939 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 3: Are you for real? They it just got lucky. 940 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 2: They got was a major score. They had no idea. 941 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,919 Speaker 2: So they're just opening these bags being like, oh my god, if. 942 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 3: You did a crime that was so good that you 943 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 3: have to leave your life. 944 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 2: Well, in the days afterwards, a bunch of them start 945 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: deactivating their cell phone numbers. 946 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 3: The best thing you could do is leave the country. 947 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, they must have been so spooked by this. 948 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,760 Speaker 4: Go to a little ranch in some place that speaks 949 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,280 Speaker 4: the language you speak and nobody. 950 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 2: They didn't. Though they didn't. This wasn't their first heist though. 951 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 2: Apparently in the months leading up to the back heist, 952 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 2: a bunch of the crew members pulled off a series 953 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 2: of thefts all across. 954 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 5: San Bernardino County. 955 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 2: So in some of those cases, the mos No, it's 956 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 2: pretty much the same, like they would case and follow 957 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 2: truck stops. Yeah, they went to truck stops similar places 958 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 2: they would quote identify and rob steele, unlawfully take and 959 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 2: unlawfully carry away a variety of merchandise. So, according to 960 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 2: the indictment, yeah, they used multiple vehicles to follow trucks 961 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 2: carrying shipments of electronics and other items until they would 962 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 2: reach a stopping point, and then the alleged thieves would 963 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 2: like rob or burgle the vehicles. Some would allegedly being 964 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 2: very careful here, act as lookouts around businesses where the 965 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 2: trucks were parked. Others just did straight up smash and 966 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,760 Speaker 2: grabs like bippins, and they'd had back to La, split 967 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 2: up the goods, fence them with trusted connections. 968 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 3: My pain a couple of guys who did this. 969 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 2: And he did any of them. I should have listed 970 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 2: the names. 971 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 3: No, it's a common form of pirracy. Yeah, yeah so it. 972 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 2: March second, twenty twenty two months before the Lebeck heist, 973 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 2: prosecutors said that members of the crew used multiple vehicles 974 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 2: to follow a truck carrying Samsung electronics from Ontario, California. 975 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so when. 976 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 2: The vehicle stopped at a store in Ontario, crew members 977 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 2: allegedly distracted the driver in the shop while some in 978 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 2: the group stole the electronics. And I would love to 979 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,399 Speaker 2: know how they distracted the driver. Was like raise their 980 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 2: skirt and show like a fish netted cat. 981 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,280 Speaker 3: They did a mime show with balloons. 982 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were like someone like trips and falls and 983 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,720 Speaker 2: spills chocolate milk all over the floor and they're staring, 984 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 2: comes to help and cries, just starts crying and. 985 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 3: Beating up adults. That's what's going on in this town. 986 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 2: That hall was worth almost two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 987 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 3: That's much smaller. Yeah, but that's that's probably what they 988 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 3: normally would get. 989 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 2: That's what they're thinking. Yeah, so le's. 990 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 3: After that they got. 991 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 2: Another box truck, and that one ironically was carrying Apple 992 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:37,840 Speaker 2: air tags. 993 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 3: A rough one. Yeah. 994 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 2: The driver stopped for food in Fontana and the guys 995 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,800 Speaker 2: made their move. They walked away with fifty seven thousand 996 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 2: dollars in air tags. 997 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 3: Is that a lot? Yeah? I think I don't how 998 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:50,439 Speaker 3: much air tags? 999 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 2: Like twenty five bucks? Okay, okay, Well they started to 1000 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 2: walk away because the driver caught him. Maybe they were 1001 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 2: air tags. So the driver caught the thieves. According to 1002 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,479 Speaker 2: the indictment, one who had like a small knife, allegedly yelled, 1003 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,919 Speaker 2: don't move or I will help you up. 1004 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 3: That's knife all night. 1005 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 2: Within the small knife. They had other failures. May twenty fifth, 1006 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, A bunch of them tried to drive 1007 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,760 Speaker 2: to a truck stop in Fontana to steal from a truck. 1008 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 2: They used a crowbar to break in. It took off 1009 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,320 Speaker 2: before they could grab anything. 1010 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 3: With a lock. Conversation, I guess really not that. 1011 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 2: Later that same day they went back to Fontana, this 1012 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 2: time they stole more. Samsung Electronics valued it a little 1013 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:32,800 Speaker 2: more than fourteenth. 1014 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 3: Though good electronics. Elizabeth yeah So. 1015 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 2: Reached for comment. MALKI remember the jeweler, He told the 1016 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 2: La Times the indictment was quote awesome. Quote. I don't 1017 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 2: know what to say, he said. I'm absolutely shocked. 1018 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:45,399 Speaker 3: He is a tough guy. 1019 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 2: He's a tough guy. In response to the charges, Brinks 1020 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 2: said the statement, quote, we deeply appreciate the efforts of 1021 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 2: law enforcement to resolve this matter. We will continue to 1022 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 2: watch the case closely. 1023 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 3: Oh my god, what a nothing. 1024 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 2: Stay absolutely nothing statement. So that's where we are on this. 1025 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 2: This is this is as far as this train goes. Zaren, 1026 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 2: what's your ridiculous takeaway. 1027 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 4: I'm still hung up on the idea that if you 1028 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 4: have a scored this big, it's kind of like the 1029 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 4: plot to No Country for Old Men, where you come 1030 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 4: along this this crazy money, you realize this life changing, 1031 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 4: but then you also realize someone's. 1032 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,760 Speaker 3: Gonna come looking for Oh yeah. 1033 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 4: And I've got to hide from that person. And if 1034 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 4: it's crime like they are, it's going to be either 1035 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 4: law enforcement or fellow criminals either one. It's going to 1036 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 4: be people who are motivated, Yeah, can find you. So 1037 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 4: I feel bad for them in a certain way that 1038 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 4: they did so well. They did too well, something. 1039 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 2: That would have worked in like the seventies. 1040 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 3: Yes, without so much. 1041 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 2: There's so much technology where you can track them and 1042 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 2: like cameras, so we don't know based on these search horms. 1043 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,359 Speaker 2: We don't know what like dash cam footage they had, 1044 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,320 Speaker 2: you know with the jewelry. Now they do like microscopic lasers. 1045 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, then grave. 1046 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 2: Engraving on stuff that you can. 1047 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 3: Track holographic marks that are like. 1048 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like there, there's it's so hard to 1049 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 2: get away with this kind of thing, and we leave 1050 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:14,839 Speaker 2: a digital footprint everywhere we go. So anyway, I really 1051 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 2: do want to get a burner phone. I don't know why. 1052 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you want to get a flip phone 1053 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,320 Speaker 3: or burner phone. Away, Elizabeth. 1054 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 2: My takeaway is that I saw that it's it's interesting 1055 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 2: to tell a story like this where I was looking 1056 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 2: at it. I've been like kind of looking at it 1057 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 2: for a bit of this is a good story, but 1058 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 2: like it wasn't fully enough, and then all of a 1059 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 2: sudden these arrests came in. I was like I pounced 1060 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 2: on it. Like I can't. 1061 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 3: They got them. 1062 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 2: They got them, Dave. I think we could do with 1063 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 2: a talk bag. 1064 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I want. 1065 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 2: My name's Ann. 1066 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 7: I've been listening to you since the beginning. I just 1067 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 7: really appreciate you, guys. I must say, I am listening 1068 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 7: to the American Beatles episode and this is probably the 1069 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,839 Speaker 7: most voices I have ever heard Zarin use, which is 1070 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 7: great entertainment. Thanks for a good job, everybody, ridiculous crime staff. 1071 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 7: I forgot to mention I was nine years old when 1072 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 7: the Beatles, the British Beatles played on The Ed Sullivan Show. 1073 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:45,399 Speaker 7: We just thought they were kind of odd. Anyway, Thanks you. 1074 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 2: I love the nine year old perspective on that. 1075 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, likes love this, but I don't know. I see 1076 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 3: a mop haired It's just a little strange. 1077 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 2: That's awesome. I love that you're getting some props for 1078 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 2: your voices. 1079 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. I appreciate it. 1080 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 4: And I'm trying to do non offensive accents when I 1081 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 4: do accent, so if ever, I apologize to those I've 1082 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 4: offended in the past. And I just know that for 1083 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 4: the most part, I try to stick to accents that 1084 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 4: I have family connections to, like I have the genes 1085 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 4: like if I'm doing an accent, I'm like, honestly, I'm 1086 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 4: one of your people. 1087 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,280 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I. 1088 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,239 Speaker 2: Love that, right, that's a good ethos to have. 1089 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 3: Can I do that? Like? I'm French too? 1090 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 2: Why not? 1091 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 3: Good at it? 1092 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 2: But that's it for today. You can find us online 1093 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 2: at ridiculous Crime dot com. Did you know fun fact 1094 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 2: about our website? 1095 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 3: No? I don't. 1096 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 2: It's on the e PA's number three why super fun site? 1097 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,719 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, without you. 1098 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 2: We're on blue Sky and Instagram Ridiculous Crime. 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