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Speaker 3: Welcome to Episode five twenty nine with Parmale, Matt and Scott,

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Speaker 3: their brothers. Matt's the lead singer. They got many, many

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Speaker 3: like this. You can follow them on Instagram at parmale Music.

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Speaker 3: Check that out. You can check them out on tour August,

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Speaker 3: September and October. Are those Is that an order? March, April, May, June, July, August, September. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: parmelely music dot com. And here we go. It is

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Speaker 3: episode five twenty nine with Parmalee. All Right, we're here

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Speaker 3: with Matt and Scott from Parmallee. One of you guys

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Speaker 3: So what is what is parmeal Lee.

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Speaker 1: It's a little town in North Carolina where we started

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Speaker 1: the band. Population I think two hundred and sixty four.

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Speaker 2: Or something like that. It's about a mile from where

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we named it after the band, named the

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Speaker 3: So I probably if I saw that sign, I would

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Speaker 1: They'd be looking. They had a dollar G in Parmelee. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a one stoplight town.

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Speaker 3: We got a dollar General Mountain Pine like three years ago.

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Speaker 3: We don't have any stoplights. The population now is like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So my school we graduated with like forty six

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Speaker 3: So if Parmally was a town, what was the town

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Speaker 3: Like the band name Robertsonville.

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Speaker 4: We tried it.

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Speaker 1: He rose, Well, we were slip Joint was the original

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Speaker 2: We had a run in one night.

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Speaker 3: it was a Slipnot tribute band if I been honest,

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Speaker 3: How long did that last as the band's name?

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Speaker 5: It was like a Chili Pepper's funk style song.

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Speaker 2: It was like this Rey Gaye is kind of crazy song.

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Speaker 1: We were just jamming and having fun and just kind

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Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, this band's slip joint gave me

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Speaker 3: The punk band Yeah, pop punk? Mike, would they pop punk?

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Speaker 3: Say so yeah, Okay, I feel like they're pop punk? Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: You need to start working.

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Speaker 1: Towards this, and you know the first kind of bit

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Speaker 3: And you were were you covering most songs mostly covers?

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Speaker 3: Did you say menuvenue? I've never heard that before, so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it didn't make perfect stitch, right.

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Speaker 3: No, I I've been there. I know exactly what you're

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Speaker 3: That's interesting. So I once I'd love to hear a

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Speaker 3: But I'll give you an example of a story from me,

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Speaker 3: Early on, when I was just starting to tell jokes,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, those first high school parties that we got to

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Speaker 2: Like all over me, I was like, I'm in on this.

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Speaker 3: What kind of music did your dad play, not himself,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was Bob Seeger, Allman Brothers, Ye Devil, McClinton.

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Speaker 3: But my my assumption then is those are big influences

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Speaker 3: Like that's probably what you listen to and emulated that

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Speaker 1: I was learning he was doing all those you know,

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00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,440
Speaker 1: classic seventies songs and whatever. He was like and then

442
00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 1: and so we were I was kind of learning those

443
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,440
Speaker 1: songs and learning about the songs, and but Scott turned

444
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,399
Speaker 1: me on to some old class rock.

445
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,200
Speaker 2: I'll never forget. We had this old record player and he's.

446
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,400
Speaker 1: Like, man, check this out, and it was Boston more

447
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,640
Speaker 1: than the feeling and check this guitar out this all

448
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 1: those great songs around as well as the pop songs

449
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,359
Speaker 1: that were coming up that my mom was listening to

450
00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 1: on the radio that you heard all the time. And

451
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,160
Speaker 1: you know, and back home was a big Eastern Carolina

452
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,879
Speaker 1: and North and South Carolina have what they call beach music,

453
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,600
Speaker 1: but it's just like blue eyed soul kind of but

454
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,200
Speaker 1: it's really cool.

455
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 2: It's very local, but.

456
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,439
Speaker 1: It's a it's a lot of blues soul based stuff

457
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,200
Speaker 1: back home, and country was always there. The lifestyle was

458
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 1: country and you heard it. It was always like my

459
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,119
Speaker 1: grandma had the record player and was always playing country

460
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:54,880
Speaker 1: stuff and.

461
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 4: Elvis was it, Yeah, Elvis two yep.

462
00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,639
Speaker 3: I always said the country music growing up in Arkansas

463
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 3: was about where I was from, but like the alternative

464
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 3: stuff was about kind of how I felt and what

465
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 3: like the culture was for me.

466
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 2: Yea, so it was.

467
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 3: And again I was also and I think we're around

468
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 3: the same age. I was also like napster and that

469
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 3: first generation that in college was able to download whatever

470
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 3: I wanted, and therefore you had friends who were also

471
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 3: able to do the same, but they would be able

472
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 3: to tell you about stuff, and it wasn't that you

473
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 3: had to drive the best buy, you just had to

474
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Speaker 3: go and type it in your computer and illegally download it.

475
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 1: YEP.

476
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,639
Speaker 3: I remember getting so mad when like Metallic I was

477
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 3: trying to shut down download it. I was like, you

478
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,439
Speaker 3: guys don't even know what it's like. We deserve all

479
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 3: those music for free. You're robbing us. I was so

480
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 3: mad at bands trying to shut that down. Now, obviously

481
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 3: I understand why that could have never sustained itself. Yeah,

482
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 3: I was I so mad when they tried to shut

483
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,400
Speaker 3: Napster down because I thought we deserve that music for free.

484
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

485
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 1: Once we started getting those CDs where all these different

486
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 1: songs on before, you could have only afford well, I

487
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: could only afford maybe one CD every few months. If

488
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 1: you could get that one and you be your favorite band,

489
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 1: and it might be two like hit songs there, but

490
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,439
Speaker 1: you became fans of the band because you listened to it.

491
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, that was a that was a game changer.

492
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 3: They also had a lot of filler on those albums

493
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 3: back then because they could because if they had a

494
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 3: single or two, they knew you'd buy it, and they

495
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 3: weren't gonna do twelve awesome songs. It was like two

496
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 3: and a half, maybe three if they thought they'd get

497
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 3: a third single. But times were different. You'd buy a

498
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,919
Speaker 3: freaking record and it kind of would be awesome, awesome,

499
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 3: suck or it wouldn't sound anything like the singles, like

500
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 3: the Bitch. He'd buy a record and the would sound

501
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 3: nothing like this reason you bought the record.

502
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 2: Speaking of Sugar Ra, do you remember when that came out?

503
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 3: It was hard.

504
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 2: There's like metal core and the rest flyers up there.

505
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 3: It was like us about your wings on flying and

506
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 3: the rest of it. It was crazy. That's one of

507
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 3: the records I'm talking about where I was like, this

508
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 3: is not But then they switched it up obviously, and

509
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 3: then they just embraced that new you know, beach rock

510
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 3: whatever that ended up being with Every Morning and all that.

511
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, people don't even know, like they were expensive

512
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 3: and then there were like two good songs on it. Yep,

513
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 3: especially in the pop world especially. I remember that first

514
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 3: Britney Spears record was garbage except for like three songs,

515
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: and all three of those were massive hits. You have

516
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 3: that one, Yeah, Yeah, I'm not embarrassed at all the day.

517
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 3: But then once we were able to get napster and

518
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 3: download whatever we wanted, we were able to get our

519
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 3: friends tastes and sensibilities and hey, you liked it, and

520
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 3: so therefore mine grew right. And then MTV now you're

521
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 3: talking about t r L time for me, But when

522
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 3: it was really popping, it was country music grows from

523
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 3: but like alternative stuff was like how I felt, that's

524
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 3: all sad, upset at the world. And then classic rock

525
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 3: was was the radio. Yeah, like freaking cool ninety five.

526
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 3: I listened to that Cool ninety cool, good times, great oldies.

527
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 3: But back in the day for good times, great oldies,

528
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 3: they'd play like led Zeppelin and stuff.

529
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know.

530
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 3: It was like a classic rock oldies type thing.

531
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: Get the Lid Out.

532
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 4: That was like get the lid.

533
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 3: Tuesday, Get the leadout. I was talking about it.

534
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 2: I love led Zeppel. Have you seen the documentary?

535
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 3: No, no, I've seen it, and I can't get my

536
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 3: wife to watch it. I've been working on with Tom

537
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 3: Petty when first, Oh I heard about that. Yeah, so

538
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 3: we're on. I have a queue of things and I

539
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 3: would like for her to watch. She has a que

540
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: of things that she would like me to watch, but

541
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 3: mostly we stay in what we both like. So I'm

542
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 3: trying to get to watch the Tom Patty Went and

543
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 3: then I'll move on to the led zeppel One. But

544
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 3: I think what will interest her is that supposedly, and

545
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: this was a common thing for a lot of bands,

546
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 3: that they sold their soul to the devil. That was

547
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: kind of the rumor everybody made up, like Metallic, I

548
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 3: sold us out to the devil. Led Zeppelins hold us

549
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 3: old of the devil. But I think if I could

550
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 3: like get her with that like they sold us, she'd

551
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 3: be like, I'm interested. I'm interested to know their story.

552
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean sure, I don't know if you'll

553
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: know the songs. But I heard the song so much

554
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: I said, I'm I'm zepped out, man. I'm like, it's

555
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: hard because I just Alder in high school. You heard

556
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: the Classic walk Station and my buddy loved him and

557
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: it was just on all the time. But crazy thing though,

558
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: you know, their first gig, according to this documentary, they

559
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: took a private jet to.

560
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: Go do it.

561
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: It was it was how they do that because this

562
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: was Jimmy Page's you know, super group. Because he was

563
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: in the yard Birds, and when they busted up, and

564
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: then it was like he's putting together this band and

565
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be you know, And so.

566
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: It was hyped up to be this big supergroup and

567
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: that's what.

568
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: But they came up with the songs and the sound,

569
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: and they had Bonzo on the drums and they were

570
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: just it was unbelievable that he could put that together

571
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: and that quick. They come up with those songs and

572
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: the sounds, and he produced all of it. He was

573
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 1: like this classicol producer or worked in the studio, so

574
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: he had all this experience and he added it to

575
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 1: the rock and roll.

576
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 2: It's just really cool. You gotta watch it.

577
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 3: I always felt that Robert Plant hated that he recorded

578
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 3: some of those songs because then he had to sing

579
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 3: on his whole life, like in theory and on the record.

580
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 3: But then there's a reason he doesn't sing them now

581
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 3: he's older. It's hard to hit that and you don't

582
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,719
Speaker 3: want to do it halfway because those are legendary, those

583
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 3: are iconic songs, right, so he records those, you know,

584
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 3: he's he's up here. Oh yeah, yeah, Like your lifespan

585
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 3: as a vocalist in that range is very limited. Yeah,

586
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: and then I still hit it, have you. I mean

587
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 3: I've seen them, Okay, I saw the they do it

588
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 3: in DC. The I did it with the Riba Kennedy

589
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: the Kennedy Center, and and everybody was playing their songs

590
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 3: back to them like heart didn't I.

591
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: Mean, oh yeah, yeah yeah.

592
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 3: And then they ended up singing and he did. They

593
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 3: did Stairway to Heaven and he got there a little bit,

594
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 3: but he didn't really try. And that's a song though

595
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 3: you can keep it, keep the tempo down. But I

596
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 3: think that's the That's some of my friends too. I'm like, man,

597
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: why'd you record it like that? Because now you've got

598
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 3: to sing it like that the rest of your life.

599
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: How many times do you think Stairway to Heaven has

600
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: been played in the Guitar Center since.

601
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 3: You know, there are those things where it's like no

602
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 3: playing Stairway to Heaven like band from practicing Stairway to

603
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: Heaven and the guitar. What was the first song you

604
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: guys learned on guitar?

605
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 2: Oh, man, keep your hands to yourself Georgia Satellites.

606
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 3: Was that a pretty easy congression?

607
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: Dang dang, dang good, It's just that a to e

608
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: to d I mean, and that was the first we

609
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: played that song with my dad at our very first

610
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: live performance at the Martin County Humane Society benefit show

611
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: and the high school auditorium. That was our very first

612
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: time playing live, and that was how he taught me how.

613
00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: To play guitar.

614
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: So I think the first thing I ever learned was

615
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: Smoke on the Water because that same thing. Yeah, yeah,

616
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 3: smoke on the water probably, And then you could learn

617
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 3: if you learned anything like the standard blue stuff, you

618
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: could kind of go into the George thorough good stuff

619
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: because his stuff, although he definitely was super distinct, like

620
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: bad to the bone, like I drink alone, Yeah, I

621
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 3: wouldn't know about it. Yeah, like that stuff you kind

622
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: of figure out pretty easy too. And I wasn't a

623
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: good guitar player and I'm still not, but that stuff

624
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 3: I could fake enough. Yeah.

625
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing about kind of the bluesy stuff

626
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: is you can kind of.

627
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 2: Get by with it.

628
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: It's crazy to now that I go play, like I

629
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: go try to learn riffs and stuff. It's just like

630
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: you heard these riffs your whole lives and you understand.

631
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: But coming from like Jimmy Page, who did it originally

632
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: came up with it and the.

633
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 2: Way he plays it.

634
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: I was like, how many people have been in bands

635
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: and tried to play those Jimmy Page licks note for

636
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: note and like he's just ripping them like it's coming

637
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: off his brain. It's I'm pretty like, I'm way more

638
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: appreciative now. Back then, I was like, I can play it,

639
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: you know, it sounds close enough, but then put it

640
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: on you know, tape or record it and have it

641
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: be the one is is unique?

642
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 3: What's interesting about music and especially style or and you

643
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 3: can hear certain players because their sounds are so distinct.

644
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: You can talk about Page, you can talk about even

645
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 3: tone with guns and roses or slash, even like a

646
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 3: Paisley and how he picks, like there are distinct things

647
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 3: patterns or sonically. But that was so apparent late fifties,

648
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 3: sixty seventies, eighties into the nineties, but it kind of stopped.

649
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 3: And for the same reason the jump shots started to

650
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 3: all be the same, and the same reason that batting

651
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 3: stance has all started to be the same. The Internet

652
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: existed and you would watch those old black and white

653
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 3: videos of Hale Check and the Celtics. Those guys all

654
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: shot weird because they didn't have YouTube to watch to

655
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: see how to shoot basketball, so they all had to

656
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: develop their own styles. Same thing with batting stances, like

657
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 3: in the eighties nineties onto skalarag a wide open stance.

658
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: Same thing with a guitar playing, where it wasn't versally

659
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 3: learned because there was nothing universal that everybody could read

660
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 3: unless you went out and bought a guitar. But then

661
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 3: you're just reading it or you're buying a VHS off TV.

662
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: So now players don't have as distinctive styles because everybody

663
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: grows up knowing what everyone's style is and you kind

664
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: of mimic what you can learn. And you used to

665
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 3: not be able to do that unless you were like

666
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: listening to one song over and over on a record.

667
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 3: So it's been for these again. I compare batting stances

668
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: to jump shots to guitar style. Nobody has their own

669
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 3: because you have the ability to get everybody's and see everybody's.

670
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: Now there's so much to learn out there now.

671
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: You know, when we were coming up, you had to

672
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: seek it out, or you had to learn a tab

673
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: in the back of a guitar player magazine or rent

674
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: the DVD, you know, structural DVD once YouTube is amazing,

675
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: then I mean.

676
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: Cost it's great, I love you can get it, but

677
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: what it does hurt is I think creatively or just

678
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: to survive, people have to create new styles because they're

679
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: they don't have other ways to learn it. And so

680
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: I think a lot of those iconic styles that we

681
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: know in any of those areas are because it wasn't

682
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: universally able to be learned, so you had to learn

683
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: or figure it out your way yourself, and your way

684
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: would just be so different distinct. So that's my rant

685
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: on the internet.

686
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: We all borrow from somebody, you know, in a lot

687
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: of ways.

688
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: Who do you think you borrow from? The most I

689
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: can answer, I'll answer mine. Yeah, who do I think,

690
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: even if I'm not doing it on purpose, because I've

691
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 3: spent so much time watching him, it's David Letterman. Okay,

692
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 3: I probably have stole so many mannerisms, so many that

693
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: I don't even realize how much I've stolen, because I've

694
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: just have consumed what I think is everything that he's

695
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: ever done. Humor's are reverent, he looks odd, and that's okay.

696
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 3: Like I think, probably I've stolen so much of David

697
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: Letterman that I don't even know how much I've stolen

698
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: but accidentally. Yeah, so what about you guys.

699
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: My dad probably he won't sue you, so that's good. Yeah, yeah,

700
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: I mean just the way he's saying. And but I've

701
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: caught myself I can't do it like him, like, but

702
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: I've heard recordings where I know what I'm doing. I'm

703
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, sing like him or do do

704
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: those things. And probably the most I mean, like I said,

705
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: he was, he was a big Greg Almond fan.

706
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: So now you talk about harmonies. When the all my

707
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: brothers sang together, that's like blood harmony but also being

708
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: awesome at the same time.

709
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: Yep, that's some cool stuff, man, just just awesome. But

710
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about that.

711
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: So how you went from so you were doing like

712
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: stand up gig, but you parlayed that into the now.

713
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: I never really did anything good, So we just worked

714
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 3: hard or whatever. Literally, And I don't say that to

715
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: be like, oh, well, give me some attention here, Like

716
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: I don't have a single skill that I would say

717
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 3: is like in the upper five percent. However, I started

718
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: doing radio seventeen or eighteen, and I tried so hard

719
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: to be the guy with the big voice, the tradition, Hey,

720
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: everybody countdown number five. I tried that as hard as

721
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: I possibly could, and it was awful. And so because

722
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: I was so bad at it, and this is one

723
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: of those style things. Because I was so bad at

724
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: it and I couldn't do it, I was like, a

725
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: screw it, I'm just going to talk like I talk.

726
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: I got a southern accent. I talked too fast. Thirty

727
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: percent of the time people are wondering, what did he

728
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: just say? Because he that man, he speaks slow now yeh,

729
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: low down. And so I did all of that, but

730
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: only because I had to to survive, not because I

731
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: thought it was this great strategic advantage I have. And

732
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 3: so I was also very young, and what helped me

733
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 3: was I came from a small town, small market, didn't

734
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: know anybody. Therefore I had to develop my own style.

735
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: But also I was okay to go move anywhere because

736
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: it wasn't like I was leaving anything behind like we

737
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: were talking about earlier, like I had nothing. I was

738
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: not comfortable, but I was comfortable and with nothing. Yeah,

739
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: And so I did radio. And then I always used radio,

740
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: like I would go and open up for artists at

741
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: comedy clubs for a little bit, and I didn't. I

742
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: had like parody music that I would do, but I

743
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 3: was like, man, I have to use other people's music.

744
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: So I bought a guitar to pawn shop for fifty

745
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 3: bucks and a poster from Walmart that showed me the

746
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: chords and so yeah, but slack slap, slap slap. So

747
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: I used that to make chords and I started to

748
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: do you know, seven eight minutes. But I couldn't tour

749
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: because of my job. So I've just slowly used radio

750
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: or podcast to jump off and do all the other things,

751
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: and even like moving to Nashville, like I had started

752
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: syndicating my own show in Texas and spending my own

753
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: money and kind of developing my because nobody wanted to

754
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: spend money on me. So I was like, I'll just

755
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: do it myself. Yeah, I built always yeah, and I

756
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: wish they would have. It wasn't like I was like

757
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna show them and invest my own money, but

758
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: it was like, please, somebody give me money, and nobody would,

759
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: so I just use my own money and that's spent.

760
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: Why I get pick a ball court now because I

761
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: own so much of it. But it wasn't at first,

762
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: nobody was to want any money over here.

763
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: Dude, we did the same. We put everything on credit cards.

764
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were like at one point pay and third six

765
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: percent interest, just playing enough shows we could pay that

766
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: bill and that we would go with it. We worked

767
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: our day jobs doing construction and logging and you know,

768
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: all that stuff that we had to do so we

769
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: could go just play. But we were dying for somebody

770
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 1: to give us some money. We just signed any kind

771
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: of deal back then. If somebody would have same anything,

772
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, we'd have given it all away.

773
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: We're lucky it didn't work that way. We were lucky

774
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: that people thought we sucked, but they just didn't understand.

775
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 3: I think what I think was they didn't understand what

776
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: I was trying to do. Therefore they didn't really appreciate it.

777
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: I tell myself that. But yeah, no, I would have

778
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: begged for anything, any money anything.

779
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we were man.

780
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: We I mean we've done some sketchy things and sign

781
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: management deals for like a year out in LA some

782
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: guy we didn't even know. I mean, we just we

783
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: were just looking for that one ray of hope that

784
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: would get.

785
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: Us to where we are now.

786
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: Do we get us a record deal, so we could

787
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, pay the debts and all that, and so

788
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: we would chase anything that we thought was going to

789
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: be tire advantage. And if we didn't have money to

790
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: pay for working with this producer or record in these songs,

791
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: we just put it on credit.

792
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: And but eventually it all worked.

793
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: It all this led to this, which led to that,

794
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 1: and it all it is crazy.

795
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: And also you didn't stop. That is ninety six percent

796
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: of success is not stopping because you probably had so

797
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 3: many roadblocks where you're like, how the heck do we

798
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: get past this, yet it didn't stop you. And I

799
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 3: firmly believe that most of success is just continuing on

800
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: and when you can't continue, finding a way to continue,

801
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 3: even if it means I got to go work another job.

802
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 3: As long as you can keep it going, I would

803
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: imagine that having a bunch.

804
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: Of yeah, yeah, I mean we did.

805
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 4: We did.

806
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: That's all we do, just kept it going, and we'd

807
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: always find something. It would like a little spark and

808
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: it gets pumped up and excited and and you know,

809
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: ultimately what we needed we had to drive. You know,

810
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: we had the determination. We just didn't have the song

811
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: at first we had songs, and we were you know,

812
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: we had excitement around us because we were just we

813
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 1: were just a good time guys.

814
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: We always have fun.

815
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: We you know, did you think you had this song

816
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 3: but you really didn't. But did you think you had them?

817
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, I see that's the thing. We

818
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: thought we had them enough. But now looking back, it's like, no,

819
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: we didn't have the songs. But that was where if

820
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: you had got a label deal that they could have

821
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: helped you out and could have brought in a producer

822
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: and he could have reached out to some.

823
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 2: Of his better songwriter buddies.

824
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: And because you realize, like you're just you're just doing

825
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: this us for and if you had to start a

826
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: band and you're lucky enough to have a really good

827
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: singer or guitar player or.

828
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: You know, or.

829
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: Somebody in the band that can really write songs and

830
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: understands it, like you know, that's a that's a pretty

831
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: good deal. And we we really didn't. We just had

832
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: to just worked it out together.

833
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: And just we didn't know anything. Not that we still

834
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 4: we still don't know anything.

835
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: I mean you're still learning, but you know, you'd have

836
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: had access to just some of these writers here that

837
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: that were you know, around to help you out.

838
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: I mean it had been awesome, and we did co writes.

839
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: We we you know, we had people that wrote.

840
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: Songs with us, but mostly it was just up to

841
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: us four and we're just trying to figure it out.

842
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 7: You know, the Bobby Cast will be right back. This

843
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 7: is the Bobby Cast.

844
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 3: Was that first song you're talking about Carolina?

845
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: That was the that was the one that did it

846
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: that that really like change. We had one song called

847
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: Broken Records that really like was was a wow moment, oh,

848
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: because this is kind of cool, this is like modern sound,

849
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: and the people really dug it and it was it

850
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: was like that one really lit a spark. That was

851
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: the first like melody wise song. But we were struggling

852
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what was next week, gone to

853
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: like California to work with. We actually worked with Nikki

854
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: six in California. There's some songs with him because Peop

855
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: were and they were telling us like, you guys need.

856
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: To be in Nashville, you need to be you know

857
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 2: you're and.

858
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: We had like at one point in time, Jo Kobe

859
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: Shattucks from proper Oach and his tour manager were managing

860
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: us and and we had Mike Moushop from stains Man.

861
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: They were just trying to get us. They saw something

862
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 1: in us, but they were trying to get us a deal.

863
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 4: We opened up for those guys and then they saw something.

864
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 4: They couldn't pinpoint what it was, but we did do

865
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 4: the harmony thing that you were talking about. It was

866
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 4: throwing the rock guys off. Three part harmony with Matt,

867
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: Josh and Berry. It was just a sound that they

868
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 4: were It wasn't rock. They were trying, like they said,

869
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 4: you need to go to Nashville, go to Nashville.

870
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: It was like it wasn't They were trying to fit

871
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: us in that active rock stuff, you know what was

872
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: going on, which you know back in the day the

873
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: bands were popular and it just nothing fit, nothing fit,

874
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: and we just didn't have the song. But we wrote

875
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: Carolina and I remember when I got back.

876
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 8: And I listened to it and I was like, I

877
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 8: got the guys. I said, y'all come listen to this.

878
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 8: This is crazy, this is it, this is this is

879
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 8: what we've been looking for. And it, you know, really

880
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 8: did it. It's really set things off.

881
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: And you know, we had already been in the region

882
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: had had some excitement and then lost a little bit,

883
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: and it was both playing the same clubs and maybe

884
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: a new club would open up and you go here

885
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: and you you find new fans here. But it was

886
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: never like that. It was always kind of like up

887
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: and down. And then that song hit and it was

888
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: up for a while and nobody, even those guys couldn't

889
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 1: None of the labels would sign us. And we did

890
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: actually get one record label offer, and at that time

891
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: it was like right when three sixty deals came out

892
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: and anybody, our managers at the time messed it up

893
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: and now that was gone.

894
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 3: And who wrote that song?

895
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: Carolina us four? Josh and Ricky?

896
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: Did he bring something to it that you guys didn't

897
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: have with you for or what element was he did?

898
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 2: He really did? He brought that. Uh, he brought the bridge.

899
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: In, which is really a strange you know, change up,

900
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: but it works so well.

901
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: Do the bridge a second?

902
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 8: No matter how far I go, you know, I can't

903
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 8: start thinking to buy her and there's nothing lied away.

904
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: I'm feeling, oh.

905
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 2: There's changes.

906
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: And that was really something and he's and we didn't

907
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: know at that time he was, you know, the musical genius.

908
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: He is and YouTube was out there.

909
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: We just rolled in there the crazy stories. We did

910
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: a showcase, and and Charlotte and we just uh this

911
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: A and R guy Kim Steven's Rest of the Soul was

912
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: coming to see us. And he came to see us,

913
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: and I knew he wasn't going to sign us. You know,

914
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 1: you knew that look, and I didn't.

915
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: We didn't get mad.

916
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: I just went up to him after the show said, hey, man,

917
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: if you sign us tomorrow, what's the first thing you do.

918
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: He said, that's easy, I'd send y'all down to Atlanta

919
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: to work with Rick Piotto. I was like, cool, thanks,

920
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: And next day call Rick up, Amen, we're coming to

921
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: see And so we had actually had three songs that

922
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: we had already recorded that we wanted to that we

923
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: already written we wanted to re record with him. And

924
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: so we had this one song we haven't finished and

925
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: we played in this demo and it was a demo Carolina.

926
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 1: He said, sure, come on back, and so we came back.

927
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: We recorded those songs and h and man, it was awesome.

928
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: I always tell the story, but the uh so, So

929
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: we get back about three days later to get a

930
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: call from Rick and he's like, because we wrote him

931
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: a check for eleven thousand dollars, that's what it was.

932
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: But and our buddy of ours was invested.

933
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: In the band for a few years, and and uh

934
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: it was we could tell it's kind of getting to

935
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: the end of it, but this is gonna be the

936
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: last thing. And uh so we gave him a check

937
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: and and uh got back home and he called me up.

938
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: He's like, hey man, that check bounce.

939
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: Seriously, He's like he was pissed, Like you guys, y'all

940
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: got to come up with this eleven thousand dollars you're

941
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: not getting into some music. And it's crazy, man, I mean,

942
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: I don't. We were out credit cards done have tapped

943
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: out on our buddy that was investing. And I went

944
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: to my mom and I said, Mom, can we borrow

945
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: eleven thousand dollars and we'll pay you back like twenty

946
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: percent interest.

947
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: I promise you will pay you back.

948
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: And she took a second mortgage out on her home

949
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: and loan was that money and didn't ask to hear

950
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: one song. Crazy, but and we paid her well, we

951
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: paid her back, you know, because that was that was

952
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: way before this was two thousand and seven seven. This

953
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: is two thousand and seven. So she loaned us to money.

954
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: We put an EP out in two thousand and eight.

955
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: You know, she got her.

956
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: We paid her every time we got any money, I

957
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: made sure I paid her back on her payment plan

958
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: and we did and it was great. And then you know,

959
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: then nothing, then nothing in crickets. You know, then we

960
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: don't have we still don't have a record that. We

961
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: still don't have nothing.

962
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: We're broke as a joke day jobs, but we have

963
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 2: the song.

964
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: And then that's when we one of the guys that

965
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: was working with us as a booking agent kind of

966
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: managing with me, they had they had started this label

967
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: in town called Golden Music or something, and they had

968
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: signed this artist from North Carolina named Benton Blunt. And

969
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: they said, hey, hey guys, we're in Nashville. We want

970
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: to we want to put that song out on Benton.

971
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 3: And for Bend to record it.

972
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we were like, okay, yes, somebody in Nashville

973
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 4: is gonna record You're like.

974
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 3: And also we made we get some money. Yeah.

975
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he tried to try to get all our publishing

976
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: on wow.

977
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, so so check this out.

978
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: So you know, we were stumbling around, couldn't get a deal,

979
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Ben's gonna put it

980
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: out and uh, he records it.

981
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 2: I actually did the CD.

982
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: Art work for him for hustle. I needed money, you know,

983
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: and so he puts it out and all we were

984
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: told by our manager, He's like, you guys should go

985
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: out to Nashville. You're you're writers on that you should

986
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: go out there and just go try to write songs.

987
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: And we're like, okay, well okay. And we had some

988
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: friends out here that because we've been out here a

989
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: little bit over the years, but any we called who

990
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: we knew, shout out to Greg gallow and and uh

991
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: and and they hooked us up with some co rights.

992
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: We pulled our RV in the parking across from the

993
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: ten roofs, you know, when it was all that ratty

994
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: parking lot, and we lived there for like a month,

995
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: and we who's we Me and Scott out of the band.

996
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: All four of you lived in the RB Yeah, in

997
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: that parking lot.

998
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

999
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 4: At that time, I was still logging in the logging business.

1000
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: So I would go back home for two weeks and

1001
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 4: any money I could send them or keep them out

1002
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 4: here is like stay out there, keep writing, keep writing.

1003
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 4: We got to we might have a hit song by

1004
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 4: this big country artist.

1005
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: And this is all crazy. So we're out in RV.

1006
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: It's the year that the town floods.

1007
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 4: Yep.

1008
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: We have like a couple of co writes set up,

1009
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: which actually was one of them was.

1010
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: With our manager David now So we met. We were

1011
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: out here, We didn't know anybody. We were just the

1012
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: town was empty because it was it was the Songwriter's Fest,

1013
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: so everybody's at Key West.

1014
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 2: The town floods.

1015
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: We're out here living in an RV, and there's a

1016
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: handful of rights we have, and one of them just

1017
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: happened to be with David Fanning and he at that

1018
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: time had been working with Rich and Tully and Kirk

1019
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: who were doing this production deal. They were in Jason

1020
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: Aldan's band, Jason's band. They had this production deal set

1021
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: up with the label Broken Bow to bring in an

1022
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: artist and at this time, like Thompson Square just popped off.

1023
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: And they were working with them. So we met David.

1024
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: We hit it off immediately, kind of couting the same cloth.

1025
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: He comes to the r V one afternoon, I think

1026
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: on a Sunday and we right, must have had a

1027
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: good time in that RV. So it's so we were

1028
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: just trying to get a production deal and about the

1029
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: same time, Benton's record label kind of folded up, so

1030
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: he was about Ben was actually talking to our label

1031
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: about getting signed off of that song. But Tina, who

1032
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: works with us too, I'm sorry getting too involved here,

1033
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: she was like, no, you She was telling Loban Ben.

1034
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: He's like, no, you need to hear the band that

1035
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: wrote the song that really did like you need to

1036
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: hear them.

1037
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: So she was raising the flag.

1038
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: And we were in town and so it's kind of

1039
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: like we got the song back and then we met

1040
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,479
Speaker 1: David and we wrote must have had a good time,

1041
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: and so we went in and played for those guys

1042
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: David's production group, and they loved it and they were like,

1043
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: we want to give you all a two song production deal.

1044
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: So we're gonna we want you guys to come back

1045
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: in July and we're gonna record Carolina.

1046
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna rerecord it.

1047
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: And we're gonna record must have had a good time

1048
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: on on spec. So I mean, dude, this was like hope,

1049
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, out of.

1050
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 3: Nowhere, someone else investing in you. Yeah, I just yourself. Yeah,

1051
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: a totally different feeling. Yeah.

1052
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: We never had a deal like that where somebody was

1053
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: gonna take care of it all.

1054
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 2: So we came back in July.

1055
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: We recorded the two songs, and the idea is like, okay, guys,

1056
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: we have first rights at Broken Bow to get you signed. Yeah,

1057
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: we want you guys to kind of We're gonna bring

1058
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: you guys back in like October and we're gonna do

1059
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: like showcases.

1060
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 2: We're gonna play music.

1061
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: For everybody and kind of like get the buzz going.

1062
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: This is your and we're coming back in October. So

1063
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: we're like, fellas, we got to get ready for this,

1064
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: uh this Nashville.

1065
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: We're coming to Nashville. We're gonna returning a new leaf.

1066
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: And so we're out doing shows and we do do

1067
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: a Monday night gig in September.

1068
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: Boom, it's to shooting at.

1069
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: Oh in your rv uh huh wow. The timing it's like, hey,

1070
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: take a step forward, okay, now three steps about like

1071
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: that it's over.

1072
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of like it's over. Yeah it might be

1073
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 4: oh yeah.

1074
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: I never knew the timing of that.

1075
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: Oh, it was all like it just yeah, all that time.

1076
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,479
Speaker 3: It was crazy whenever and so and you've told it before,

1077
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: but for people that haven't heard, to give me a

1078
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 3: forty five second version of the story because I'm gonna

1079
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: ask questions about following it. So I'd like to.

1080
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1081
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're playing a show on a Monday night

1082
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: at a small club. Finish the show, Me and Scott

1083
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: onto rv H getting things ready to pack up, Josh

1084
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 1: and Barry rolling cables. We get a knock at the door,

1085
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: thinking that it's Barry and Josh, but it's a gun

1086
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: at my head. Give me a f and cats and

1087
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 1: then pushed us up in an r V and then

1088
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: fired the gun. Demanded money inside the r V and

1089
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: Scott was in the back. Just had to be in

1090
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: the back, had to be a concealed carrier. King of

1091
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: the Castle law in South Carolina, and came out and.

1092
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: You know, like took care of business.

1093
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: Uh And where were you?

1094
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 4: Rock Hill, South Carolina.

1095
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: That's the end of the town.

1096
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 2: You got no shade on rock Hills.

1097
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: Just yeah, I mean bad, wrong place, at the wrong time,

1098
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: wrong place. He engaged both the guys, took took out

1099
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: both of them, but he got shot three times in

1100
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: the uh in the crossfire or whatever, how to get shot?

1101
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 3: What's crazy? Is that? Again? You've had all these like

1102
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: we're talking about hurdles, obstacles, barriers, like you're finally, you're

1103
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 3: finally someone wants to invest in you now, and now

1104
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: you have a freaking shot.

1105
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that was the I mean, it's this unreal.

1106
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: Like what do you what is your mind? Okay, let's

1107
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: the per some stuff, a site that your brother at,

1108
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: your family. Oh yeah, like all that. Obviously that's terrible

1109
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 3: first and foremost. But whenever you're looking at the business,

1110
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 3: now do you do you guys just totally set it

1111
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 3: to the side for a while. What happens there?

1112
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 4: I think y'all said, y'all kind of hid it from

1113
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 4: David and the crowd.

1114
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: We didn't let Nashville know how bad, how bad off

1115
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: he was. He only had a five percent chance of living.

1116
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: That's what the doctor told us.

1117
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 3: What do you what do you remember? Not about the shooting,

1118
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 3: but what do you anything in the hospital at all?

1119
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 4: Yeah? Basically, when I, you know, woke up, I remember

1120
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 4: certain people and they took a track out and uh,

1121
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 4: the first thing I said is we're not playing any

1122
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 4: more shitty clubs, so they knew I was okay just

1123
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 4: by being funny. But they knew I was okay. Now

1124
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 4: now we do the recuperation process, so my mind was okay.

1125
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: And then it was just the skiddim out of the

1126
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 4: hospital and let's work on whatever we could work on.

1127
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 4: But it was pretty rough.

1128
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 3: The PTSD for everybody. And I want to I'll make

1129
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: a comparison so I can give you time to think

1130
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 3: of the answer you'd like to tell is and I'm

1131
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: gonna ask you about the PTSD of it a bit.

1132
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: So I had I got held at gunpoint at an

1133
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: event and pistol whip didn't get shot, but it ft

1134
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: me up for years because I had my house broken

1135
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: into at the same time. But I couldn't close my eyes.

1136
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 3: If I closed my eyes, or if it was a nighttime,

1137
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 3: if someone came behind me, nope, Like I was not

1138
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: built for nighttime anymore. I was not built for even

1139
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 3: closing my eyes. I would see people attacking me or

1140
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: a gun coming to my head. I didn't get shot,

1141
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 3: so I can't imagine no one pulled the trigger. You're

1142
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 3: even in there where they're where they're shooting. So how

1143
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: long and do you still deal with that at all.

1144
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 4: Still dealing with it. Yeah, I mean, I'll go to

1145
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 4: therapy now, I got do I try anything? I worked

1146
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 4: would actually think, Oh, Porter's call is for us musicians

1147
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 4: and touring anybody, and this uh it's free. So uh yeah,

1148
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 4: I still working on that every day. It's just like

1149
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 4: you did, you know, you just it's a little bit

1150
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 4: at a time. Work on it, work on it what

1151
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: you're scared of. Like I always wanted to carry the

1152
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 4: gun for a while, and then I kind of loosened up,

1153
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 4: Like now I don't have to feel like I have

1154
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 4: to have a fire arm with me all the time.

1155
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 4: I don't. I still just for getting older, and probably

1156
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 4: you too. I don't want to be in sketchy places anymore.

1157
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 4: I mean I don't want to be in dark alleys.

1158
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 4: I don't want to be in the clubs anymore late

1159
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 4: at night, you know, leaving early. I really like you said,

1160
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 4: nothing help is good after twelve.

1161
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: Wrong, Like I would be at the grocery store and

1162
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: someone way just making a noise behind me. And again

1163
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 3: I'm not even comparing the two because I didn't get

1164
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: shot and nobody pulled the trigger around me. I got

1165
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 3: pistol web that ain't the same, but it's scary.

1166
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 4: It's close. I mean, that's it's scary.

1167
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 3: But I struggled and I didn't sleep, and I still don't.

1168
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 3: I still have a door lock issue like that. I

1169
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 3: deal with that like the doors man that it's it's

1170
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 3: like I got to go through and if I don't

1171
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,959
Speaker 3: remember every door being locked when I go to sleep,

1172
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 3: I have to go and do it again. Like I

1173
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: have to visually remember to where my therapist. It's like,

1174
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 3: you know what you should do, take pictures every night

1175
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 3: of every door that you locked so you don't wake

1176
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 3: up or an hour later ago. I don't know if

1177
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: I locked every door, and I have to get up

1178
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 3: and do it.

1179
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 4: And so I think you just gotta do what you

1180
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 4: gotta do, whatever makes you feel better.

1181
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 3: Did I got on sleeping pills for a while and

1182
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 3: it was really bad. Did any sort of alcohol or

1183
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: drug issues with you trying to because I did?

1184
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 4: It was it was kind of crazy because I'm trying

1185
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 4: to figure the story that happened, and it was I

1186
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 4: was in come for ten days. I woke up, I

1187
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 4: kind of knew where I was at, and then it

1188
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 4: was in my mind it just get well so the

1189
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 4: focus was working out, recuperate and try to get back

1190
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 4: to Nashville to get this record deal. So all of

1191
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 4: us were kind of focused on that, so I probably

1192
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 4: blocked most of it. Then we got here in yet February.

1193
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 4: That was September. I hobbled on stage in February, we

1194
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 4: did six songs, we got the record deal. We were

1195
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 4: blown away. I mean like just the greatest time of

1196
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 4: you know, the greatest thing that ever happened to us.

1197
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 4: So from that point forward, it was focused on music.

1198
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 4: All this focus. I mean, I guess drowning yourself and work.

1199
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 4: It took five years, five years because that hit must

1200
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 4: have had a good time. Hit Carolina, Hit Closed Your

1201
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 4: Eyes was next, two, three, four years of just this

1202
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 4: excitement rolling. About the fifth year we slowed down and

1203
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 4: something hit me, hit me hard. I was just sad.

1204
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 4: I had a little bit of money, my bills were

1205
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 4: paid for everything. It just came on me that do

1206
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 4: you realize what happened? Have you dealt with what happened

1207
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 4: in my mind? And it just hit me in now

1208
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 4: the dude, I was crying in the middle for no reason, sad, scared,

1209
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 4: and then I was like, Okay, you've gone five years,

1210
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 4: hadn't dealt with anything now as far as I didn't,

1211
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 4: I mean I drank normal, I didn't go into some

1212
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 4: abyss of thank goodness, I didn't go. I didn't go.

1213
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, I took sleep mess. I still have problems sleeping.

1214
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 4: I'm working with therapy on that, just nightmares or whatever.

1215
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 4: It's gotten better though. The more I do therapy, the

1216
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 4: better it's getting. And uh, it's just it's just your mind.

1217
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 4: You know, you just got to work on it. And

1218
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 4: I think you know, telling people, telling you or talking

1219
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 4: about it helps it don't help me to night. I'll

1220
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 4: sleep good tonight just by talking to you about it,

1221
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 4: I really will.

1222
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 3: The therapy is a big deal, and I think we

1223
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 3: grew up the same that that wasn't really that wasn't

1224
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 3: a thing na And it's hard for me to talk

1225
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 3: to like people where I'm from where it's not a

1226
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 3: thing to go like you don't understand because I didn't

1227
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 3: understand nor what I have understood, right, And so it's

1228
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 3: such a big deal. It was for me through a

1229
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 3: few things, but especially that because we I tried every

1230
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 3: I don't sleep still, like I have bad issues, and

1231
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it is rooted in security,

1232
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 3: and I'm sure so. Yeah, But I couldn't sleep for

1233
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 3: so long, and I tried everything naturally. And I've never

1234
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 3: had a drink of alcoholic. I've never used a drug,

1235
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 3: and that's from a different set of issues. But my

1236
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 3: doctor was like, you're gonna get sick if you don't sleep,

1237
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: and I was getting sick, and so we tried to

1238
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 3: sleep and pill and it was like I took to

1239
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 3: it too well.

1240
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 4: Well, we all know the sleep is where you recuperate

1241
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 4: and and if even if we're working too hard or

1242
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 4: whatever you're doing. That's what I found out. It all

1243
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 4: boils down to that good sleep to help your body

1244
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 4: in your mind.

1245
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 3: Sleeping water. Who knew? Yeah, the things would take for

1246
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 3: granted the most it's sleeping water breaks down.

1247
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 4: And I know we still do enough to sleep.

1248
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 3: I don't get enough water either, and I have unlimited access.

1249
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: I got a freaking tap. I just turn it and

1250
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 3: I still don't drink. The worst thing is I've got

1251
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: this ring. You know I have an ring too.

1252
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 4: Oh man, It really shouldn't makes you feel good or bad. Yeah,

1253
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 4: but the good night you're good in it. On bad night,

1254
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 4: you're like.

1255
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 3: My wife, mean me, get it. I look at my

1256
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 3: sleep I am just fascinated. Look, I have my app

1257
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 3: every morning I wake up. What are my sleep score?

1258
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 3: Do you think that you had a goal and that

1259
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 3: you were moving toward that goal before you went in

1260
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 3: helped you get out of physically that the hospital and

1261
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: because you were striving towards something again.

1262
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I really do. I mean, and for all

1263
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 4: of us, you know, well, the first goal was getting well.

1264
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 4: And luckily for me, I've always enjoyed sports and working out,

1265
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 4: so I took it as a work as a as

1266
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 4: a you know, Oh my job now is to work

1267
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 4: out so I can play drums again. So it was

1268
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 4: kind of like workout first, get well, figure figure out

1269
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 4: if I could play drums again. And then once I

1270
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 4: could play, then it was hopefully we'll get a record deal.

1271
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 4: But we're gonna at least try to get a record deal. Now,

1272
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 4: once you sign a record deal, now you know that

1273
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 4: don't mean nothing. You got to have hit songs, you

1274
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 4: got to keep it rolling. We thought that was just gonna,

1275
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 4: you know, save our life. But now we know with.

1276
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 3: Carolina that took a while, right, was one of those Yeah,

1277
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 3: I mean all of them have.

1278
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it took a year.

1279
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: It was released in February and it took till December.

1280
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 2: Uh when it finally.

1281
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 3: Did it feel slow? Or because it was your first time?

1282
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 3: That was just normal.

1283
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 4: Normal for us. We didn't know. We didn't I mean,

1284
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 4: we didn't know. We don't mean now you know, but

1285
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 4: I don't know now. We didn't know.

1286
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: Everything about it.

1287
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: He must have had a good time came out first,

1288
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: and that was like a that was like the first

1289
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: song that kind of connected with people, and that did

1290
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: well and it got us moving. And then they stopped

1291
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: at like thirty six or something, you know, and then

1292
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: Carolina came out. I do remember one one like week,

1293
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: I was talking with the producers and I was just

1294
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 1: freaked out. I was like, man, what if nobody like

1295
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: likes this like voice and nobody likes the song and

1296
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, it was one, say, at number forty for

1297
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: four weeks.

1298
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: Wow, didn't they got out of forty yet? The Murky

1299
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 3: is like twenty five thirty two?

1300
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, lost his bullet were able to get it back,

1301
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: but I don't know anything about that.

1302
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: But once it started moving, man, it really started.

1303
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 3: King lost his bullet at forty, your label stuck back.

1304
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: They got back.

1305
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, stayed at forty.

1306
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: It was bad, and you know, we're just out there,

1307
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: highest point of our career because we we had a

1308
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: song that worked, and we got this coming.

1309
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 2: Out and we don't know anything about the radio.

1310
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, when it finally went, that was like Okay.

1311
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 3: Now it's like, oh God, can we do it again?

1312
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1313
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: Yes, you probably still get that every time.

1314
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 4: It never goes.

1315
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: That's an ongoing saga, man, And you know, just think

1316
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: we're thankful we have, you know, enough to make a

1317
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: really fun show and that kind of stuff that you're

1318
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: always you're always chasing out.

1319
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 6: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

1320
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 6: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

1321
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 3: Which one felt the easiest of your number ones.

1322
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: Which one felt the easiest, I will say probably take

1323
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: my name.

1324
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: I like it because it.

1325
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: Started working itself, and once it took off, it was

1326
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: just everywhere and it went on and it was just

1327
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: doing things we never expected. I don't think anybody could

1328
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: have called it. It was just it was just reacting

1329
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: and connecting. But just the way it was almost like

1330
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 1: a was like the Carolina Yeah, because at that point

1331
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,919
Speaker 1: in time, our career was kind of just going down.

1332
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: We could.

1333
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: We were just we're just trying to figure out that

1334
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: next move to get us, you know, back on track.

1335
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 2: You know.

1336
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: We had Carolina and calling Close Your Eyes was like

1337
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: number three, We called you Miles of ten top ten.

1338
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: So we did good and put the second album mount

1339
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: and was just trying to figure out where we were

1340
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: and nothing really popped off.

1341
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: With Roots was great.

1342
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: It was slaty to be like they were telling us

1343
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: it was your career song and all the stuff and nothing.

1344
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: Forty spent a whole year on it and it never

1345
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: got past you know, thirty.

1346
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 4: We got lost in the label shuffle, Yeah somebody else.

1347
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 4: So we're just sending a two year.

1348
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah what Time makes such a big part of it too.

1349
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 4: Yeah this man and then always.

1350
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of time, and you know, just the way

1351
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: we dropped out in the end of twenty nineteen, in

1352
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: between December twenty nineteen and March when the when the

1353
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: pandemic hit, that song started taking on its own life

1354
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: and started it went viral and like you know, TikTok

1355
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: top fifty global viral and all of a sudden, out

1356
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: of nowhere, we've got some something to look forward to something,

1357
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: to be excited about, something, to dig in and go

1358
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. And then and then COVID hits, and

1359
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, right when we're about to take off again,

1360
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: you know, this this thing happens.

1361
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: But it was. It worked out great for us because.

1362
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: That song was was given hope and a positive message

1363
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: over a bad time. I feel like it had a

1364
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: lot to do with it, and we had time to

1365
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: focus and work on it.

1366
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: You know, do you guys eat fish?

1367
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

1368
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you like fish? You love fish?

1369
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1370
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 3: What's your fishal stance on fish? Eating? Fish? I like?

1371
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 3: I like it?

1372
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean what kind of fish you

1373
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 2: talk about? Where's this going?

1374
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 3: Am I going anywhere? What's your fish take on fish?

1375
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 4: Okay? Uh? I eat I'll eat a little bit of sushi,

1376
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 4: but I'll eat my salmon like I like to eat.

1377
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 4: I'm just one of those guys that like red meat, chicken, fish, fish.

1378
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 4: I don't think I do either, But.

1379
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: I like fishing.

1380
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 3: I should eat more of it. I should eat more fish.

1381
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 4: I think I should too, But that's that's me. Yeah,

1382
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 4: I don't eat as much.

1383
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 3: I had some cod before I came down here. As

1384
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 3: my ask, I just remembered I left it out like

1385
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 3: that literally went to my head. I left it out

1386
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 3: and yeah, so my wife's probay in the kitchen right

1387
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 3: now his fishing man. Yeah, that literally popped my head

1388
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 3: and asked that question. It was like some sort of

1389
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 3: coconut flavored cod, because I can eat cod by itself.

1390
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, let's be real good old like fried

1391
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,479
Speaker 1: Calabash style seafood out of the top of the teer

1392
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: for me, I mean fried shrimp, fried flounder.

1393
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 3: Because you guys are from like the water, but you're

1394
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 3: also from the South.

1395
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 4: Well, yeah's on that coast.

1396
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 3: That's the that's the mix. It's the South for sure,

1397
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 3: but it's also the water, which isn't like Arkansas, Mississippi South.

1398
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's ocean.

1399
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: You guys like the beach, do you like to be

1400
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 3: I love it man.

1401
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1402
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 3: See, I've never been a beach guy because I did

1403
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 3: grow up around a beach. Yeah, my wife loves the beach,

1404
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 3: but she grew up in Oklahoma, but they went on vacations.

1405
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 3: That's a Florida. We never went on vacations. So until

1406
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 3: I got to be of age to like do it myself,

1407
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 3: and then I was like, what, I don't have any

1408
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 3: good memories of the beach. I don't give a crab.

1409
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 3: You can't even really swim in some of it because

1410
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 3: it's cold and it's salty.

1411
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:37,959
Speaker 2: There's like I love the beach.

1412
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm not fond of sand being everywhere, but it's just

1413
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: the vibe when you go there and just the whole

1414
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: lifestyle and see the palm trees, whether it's the sound

1415
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: side or the ocean side.

1416
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 3: It's just I never like to take a short off

1417
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,439
Speaker 3: around people either, So I didn't like that either until

1418
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 3: I was like thirty at the chest of like a

1419
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 3: twelve year old.

1420
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1421
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 3: I just now got out of that. So I never

1422
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 3: been a big never been a big beach guy. We

1423
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 3: went to Turks and Kickos. Yeah, and I've only heard

1424
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 3: about that in like rap songs, and so we went

1425
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 3: down there and it's fine. My wife's like, this is amazing.

1426
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, c plus, yeah, that's about it. It's about

1427
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 3: as good as it gets.

1428
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 4: So there last year, Yeah, and that's our first trip.

1429
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 4: It was awesome.

1430
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 3: You have a fun story about that. I was at

1431
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 3: a restaurant Turks and Kegos, and all these guys come

1432
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,959
Speaker 3: in and jump in track suits, so big Michael Jordan

1433
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 3: logos on them, and big dudes, like four of them.

1434
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 3: They all walk in and it's night. It's like eight o'clock,

1435
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 3: and my wife and.

1436
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 2: I are there.

1437
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 3: I don't even know why she picked to go there,

1438
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 3: but the good thing is now I have a little money,

1439
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 3: so we where she wants to go, because I don't

1440
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 3: give a crap where we go. I don't even like vacation.

1441
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 3: I like, I like going with her and like, but

1442
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 3: I don't even like vacation. I don't know what to

1443
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 3: do with my hands, kind of like one of those things,

1444
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 3: like what do I do with my hands? I don't

1445
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 3: know what to do with just time off. I'm not

1446
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,959
Speaker 3: comfortable in it. And so we go and these again,

1447
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 3: these dudes come in and jump in suits, and there's

1448
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 3: there's like six couples in the restaurant, maybe five total,

1449
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 3: and jump man people. They're not angry, but they're a

1450
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 3: little irritated the situation. And then all of a sudden,

1451
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 3: I see Drake walking through the restaurant and he walked

1452
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 3: up buy my wife a nice table. And I was like, oh,

1453
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 3: it's Drake, him, Drake and some girl and so they

1454
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 3: walk right past us and they put him out on

1455
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 3: the beach, like right by us, like a private table.

1456
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, that's cool, it'sdrake private table. Whatever.

1457
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 3: Turns out they'd come in and try to get him

1458
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 3: to close the whole restaurant kick all of us out.

1459
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 3: Oh that's why they were in and irritated because they

1460
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 3: wanted them to clear the restaurant out for Drake. And

1461
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 3: the restaurant was like no, like, nobody here gives a

1462
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: crab dude. We'll set you up a table at the beach.

1463
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 3: They were also like, you can just sit there's nobody

1464
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 3: in the restaurant, Like, just you can sit in there.

1465
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna bother you. Because it was like a nice

1466
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 3: it was a nice place, and so you had they

1467
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 3: walked through it on the beach. But the Jumpman people

1468
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 3: were not happy with that restaurant's happened. I'mmagine Drake kicks

1469
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 3: people out of restaurants all the time, Like you don't

1470
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 3: ask for that if it doesn't happen sometimes, like you

1471
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 3: get nine no's in a row, you don't ask the

1472
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 3: tenth time.

1473
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, or you're right, you're right, you're right.

1474
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 3: So who's Parmally kicked out of restaurants. You guys done

1475
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 3: that before. Parmally is here. Get out of Dave and Busters.

1476
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 2: Definitely not.

1477
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 4: We have to get into the restaurant. You guys. We

1478
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 4: love going out to eat though. That's like me and

1479
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 4: he will talk about pleasure or having little money. It's

1480
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 4: nice to just go out to eat and not worry

1481
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 4: about it.

1482
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 3: That's like one of the two things, like the best

1483
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 3: things about not having anything and then having stuff. Number One,

1484
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 3: free clothes. I get free clothes sometimes, it's awesome. And

1485
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 3: number two is I can order whatever. It's like going

1486
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 3: to the gas station. I can have anything in there

1487
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 3: I want. Yep, that's crazy. Anything in this whole gas

1488
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 3: station I can have.

1489
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 4: And the same about groceries. You went to the grocery

1490
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 4: store and you had to pick and choose and whatever,

1491
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 4: and now you're like, just get what you want.

1492
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 3: Kids. It can happen. If it can happen for us

1493
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 3: to eat, You're honest, you it can happen for you,

1494
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 3: no doubt about. Yes, you guys, stay on the road,

1495
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: on the road to live.

1496
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're leaving today to go get on a

1497
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: plane to go to California.

1498
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 2: The buses out there. Yeah, especially this time of.

1499
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 3: Year like festival time, fair festival time.

1500
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: Doing a lot of headline and stuff. Uh yeah, it's

1501
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: it's it's go time.

1502
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 3: All the dates up parmally music dot com. So it's

1503
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 3: Cowgirl because I'm gonna play this on our show and

1504
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 3: possibly the countdown. So give me like a sound bite

1505
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 3: just talking about Cowgirl, Like, what is this song about?

1506
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 3: Why'd you put it out that kind of thing?

1507
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just about falling in love with somebody

1508
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: that's that's a little different, and you're you're going all

1509
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: in on it, just trying new things and you know,

1510
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 1: Cowgirl doing some country stuff and you just all in

1511
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: on it. And uh, I mean it's just fun. It's

1512
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: we knew after Gonna Love You was you know, deep

1513
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: song and everyone is something that was gonna be tempo

1514
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: and fun and the song just kind of checks all

1515
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: the marks with you played it in a honky tonk,

1516
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 1: You can play it on the boat, you can play

1517
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: it up in the riding the kids to soccer practice,

1518
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,439
Speaker 1: you can play it, you know, anywhere pretty much.

1519
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 3: I feel like if you couldn't played anywhere, that would

1520
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 3: be bad.

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01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 2: That's right.

1522
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 3: Don't make songs you can't play everywhere.

1523
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: We stopped pursing a long time ago for the part.

1524
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 3: Did you stop each?

1525
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 4: Okay, got it?

1526
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 3: I stopped probably five years ago, maybe more than that

1527
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 3: now because I didn't want to think it and write

1528
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 3: it and use it. Like I was writing books at

1529
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 3: the time and I was like writing jokes. I was like,

1530
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to fall and curse. I don't want

1531
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 3: to use that as well. I was a crutch.

1532
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 2: There's a damn in there.

1533
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 3: That's okay, that's all.

1534
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1535
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: But it's still it's still on it, like we let's

1536
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: talk about it, you know, we.

1537
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 3: Don't like there's a bunch of efforts and countries like yeah, I.

1538
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: Know from like we learned one time we did that

1539
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: you can be on stage and stay as you don't

1540
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: gain anything.

1541
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 2: But yeah you don't get Yeah, you're right, you're gonna lose.

1542
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 3: We could lose, yes, because there are probably some parents

1543
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 3: that brought their kids there, some ten year olds and audience.

1544
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: We got a lot of kids.

1545
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 4: We get a lot of kids.

1546
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 3: Parmer lea kids album next.

1547
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: You heard honestly, yeah, what do we call that?

1548
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 3: Farmer League? And then it's all farm songs, Let's go,

1549
01:06:54,680 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 3: let's rite, let's I know, I'm good, I'm good. The

1550
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 3: album fell in Love with the Cowgirl. It's been out

1551
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 3: since April. We're gonna play Calgirl on the show and

1552
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 3: do all that, But you guys go watch them live. Listen.

1553
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 3: You guys are what I point out to people whenever

1554
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 3: they have reasons not to continue. And I mean that

1555
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 3: in a good way, because you guys had like seventy

1556
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 3: two reasons to go. You know, I think this didn't work,

1557
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 3: I mean seriously, and because people get tired of me

1558
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 3: telling my story. So it's like I got a couple

1559
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 3: other versions for you, and you guys are one of

1560
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 3: those stories. So, like, I think a big part of success,

1561
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 3: the biggest part of success is continuing to show up.

1562
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 3: It's like sleeping water. It's so fundamental. You think it's

1563
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 3: got to be way more complicated than that. But if

1564
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 3: you don't do that stuff right, you can't do the

1565
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 3: other stuff right.

1566
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 4: That's right.

1567
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 3: So I do mean that in the most complimentary way possible.

1568
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 3: And I've said that outside of this, you know, and

1569
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 3: I really wasn'tnna talk about the shooting because we'vealked about

1570
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 3: that before, and I'm sure everybody asked you guys about

1571
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 3: that all the time. So I'm glad we got there

1572
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 3: because I think we got to unfold it a little

1573
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 3: bit too.

1574
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. It's helping me too, the more we talk about

1575
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 4: it and then opened up about things. I mean, it

1576
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 4: just helps. Even you tell me your story, I'm like,

1577
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 4: oh wow, just start lady, more people here, just stuff.

1578
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 2: Man.

1579
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 3: It was like slow motion for me, like I remember that.

1580
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 4: Oh.

1581
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 3: I didn't want to get back. It's just I remember

1582
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 3: that gun. I didn't feel it. Those what's crazy. I

1583
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 3: got whipped and didn't physically feel it. I remember going, huh, wow,

1584
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 3: I just got slap with a gun. Because the guy

1585
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 3: kept being uh, what's your number? Put your coat in?

1586
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't remember my number? Yeah, and

1587
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 3: I was like, dude, I was broke too. I was like, dude,

1588
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 3: I will give you every bit of money in here

1589
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 3: because I have none if you just don't shoot me. Yeah,

1590
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 3: He's like, what, I didn't feel it? It was crazy. What

1591
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 3: the mind, how the mind of body worked together? Because

1592
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 3: if you hit me in the head right now, I'm

1593
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 3: gonna cry and I'm gonna have a big knot. I'm

1594
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 3: gonna wind about it for three months on the podcast.

1595
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get so much contact of it. However, I

1596
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 3: didn't feel it.

1597
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 4: You had a yes, you had adrenaline going. I did too,

1598
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 4: And I mean I didn't feel anything until that my

1599
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 4: stomach started burning. Hit two or three hitting me before

1600
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 4: I fit burned, burned, like they said, hot metal going

1601
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 4: through your body like somebody putting hot hot iron on you.

1602
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 3: Was it slow to you and your memory? Is it

1603
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 3: slow or was.

1604
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 4: It just it was fast? Everything happened with less than

1605
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 4: five seconds. Really, from the time I said, oh no,

1606
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 4: grab my gun, walk about as close as we are right.

1607
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 4: It all happened in this little tight area.

1608
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 3: Was your gun in a case or was it in a.

1609
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,759
Speaker 4: Just had it under my like in my little bunk

1610
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 4: on it?

1611
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 3: Dude, that's crazy, you know what. I probably just ran

1612
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 3: out and cried and get out, man, I mean, you

1613
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 3: couldn't get out.

1614
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 4: Was blocking the door. That's the other thing.

1615
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 3: Do you ever watch zombie shows?

1616
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 4: No, dude, I'm the opposite of that. I need lighthearted.

1617
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 4: I mean I still watch like westerns and shoot them

1618
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 4: ups and all that stuff, but no zombie stuff.

1619
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 3: And we're watching a show now it's called Kingdom and

1620
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 3: it's zombies, and it's like South Korean, but we do

1621
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 3: English subtitles and make them speak English, which is opposite

1622
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 3: of their mouth. It's like one of those old things.

1623
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 3: So there were always a loft. But what I can

1624
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 3: do is like take my glasses off and have bad

1625
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 3: visions so it looks like their mouth matches. It's my

1626
01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:00,959
Speaker 3: work around of the workaround, right, And so these zombies,

1627
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 3: like if people are moving, they eat them. I would

1628
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 3: just lay there. I always think like I would just

1629
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 3: lay there and play dead. But then I wonder could

1630
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 3: I maintain the playing dead until they went by without me,

1631
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 3: without making like like a noise or something, or peeing

1632
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 3: a little bit. Yeah, anyway, uh, parmally you guys go

1633
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 3: to parmly music dot com, Instagram, Parmily Music. Thank you

1634
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 3: guys for the time. This has been awesome you I

1635
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 3: really appreciate it. And you guys check out Cowgirl.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.