WEBVTT - SYMHC Classics: Henry Gerber

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Saturday. Henry Gerber was born on June twenty ninth,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen ninety two, or one hundred thirty two years ago

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<v Speaker 1>today if you're listening on the day this episode publishes.

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<v Speaker 1>Gerber established Chicago Society for Human Rights one hundred years

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<v Speaker 1>ago in nineteen twenty four, and it was the first

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<v Speaker 1>known organization for gay rights in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>We mentioned in this episode that it followed one on

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<v Speaker 2>Compton's Cafeteria riot. That riot happened a little less than

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<v Speaker 2>three years before the more well known Stonewall Riot. There

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<v Speaker 2>are also a couple of mentions in this episode of

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<v Speaker 2>Magnus Hirschfeld in his Institute for Sexual Science. When we

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<v Speaker 2>recorded this episode, we did not have an episode on

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<v Speaker 2>him that came out afterward on September nineteenth, twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and us a little bit of an.

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<v Speaker 1>Update to the very end of this episode. In June

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty fifteen, Henry Gerber's house was indeed designated a

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<v Speaker 1>National Historic Landmark. Of this episode on Henry Gerber and

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago Society where Human Rights came out on June twenty second,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen. Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class,

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<v Speaker 1>A production of iHeartRadio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Holly Frye and I'm Tracy V.

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson. And we recently talked about the Compton's Cafeteria riots,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is kind of a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>dovetail on that, but we're time traveling backwards. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about in that episode, how you know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people point to the Stonewall Riots as the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the LGBT rights movement in the US, but of course

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<v Speaker 1>there were things going on before that, as that episode

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<v Speaker 1>on the Cafeteria Riot pointed out, and even before that,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were certainly gay people here long before that,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were, in fact LGBT rights organizations trying to

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<v Speaker 1>pop up, probably my earlier than you, suspect. And today

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about the man who started, ever

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<v Speaker 1>so briefly, the first such organization in the US, at

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<v Speaker 1>least the first that we know of, and that took

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<v Speaker 1>place more than four decades before Stonewall. So just a

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<v Speaker 1>heads up on this one, particularly if you're listening with

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<v Speaker 1>younger listeners. We are going to talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about some legal issues that came up involving specific sex acts,

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<v Speaker 1>So just keep that in mind as you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>this one, maybe preview it if you think your younger

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<v Speaker 1>listeners might not be ready for that. But right out

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<v Speaker 1>of the gate, I feel like we have to mention

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<v Speaker 1>that today's subject, who is Henry Gerber, can be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a difficult character in LGBT history. While

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<v Speaker 1>he definitely wanted to push back against anti gay legislation,

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<v Speaker 1>he was not so open to bisexuals. He was not

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<v Speaker 1>particularly accepting of lesbians or basically any of the people

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<v Speaker 1>we would put under the LGBT umbrella today that we're

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<v Speaker 1>not gay men. He was an introvert, He was very

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<v Speaker 1>serious man. Some people describe him as curmudgeonly or cantankerous,

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<v Speaker 1>not really a charmer, and he would often look down

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<v Speaker 1>his nose even at other gay men, saying that they

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<v Speaker 1>were too frivolous and that they were not forward thinking

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<v Speaker 1>enough about the place of the gay man in society.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, he really spearheaded this important,

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<v Speaker 1>though often overlooked effort to improve the rights of gay

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<v Speaker 1>citizens and secure some sort of safety for them. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about Henry Gerbert today, keep in mind he's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit tricky in some ways. He was born

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<v Speaker 1>as of Henry Ditmar. On June twenty ninth of eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two, he and his family left their home in

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<v Speaker 1>Bavaria to set out for the United States, and they

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<v Speaker 1>arrived at Ellis Island in nineteen thirteen. At that point,

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<v Speaker 1>Henry was twenty one, and once they had been processed

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<v Speaker 1>by immigration officials, the family moved to Chicago, where they

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<v Speaker 1>were hoping to join the significant German population there. Henry

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<v Speaker 1>got a job pretty quickly working at Montgomery Ward in

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<v Speaker 1>the mail order department.

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<v Speaker 2>As is probably obvious at this point, Gerber was gay,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of the articles about him indicate that

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<v Speaker 2>being homosexual got him institutionalized briefly, although the accounts aren't

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<v Speaker 2>entirely clear about exactly when this happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's one that we mentioned this a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>in some of our episodes, that there are some portions

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<v Speaker 1>of history and usually it's the further back you go

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<v Speaker 1>that it becomes the harder to actually find substantiated information.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's very tricky in this regard. Outside of military records,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of what we have is kind of word

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<v Speaker 1>of mouth and his retelling and some other retellings that

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<v Speaker 1>have happened along the way, so some of the details

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<v Speaker 1>get a little mushy meshy. But what we do know

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<v Speaker 1>is that Henry enlisted in the US Army on January

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixth of nineteen fourteen, and it's believed that just

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<v Speaker 1>after this is when he changed his name from Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>Henry Ditmar to Henry Gerber, although this is another part

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<v Speaker 1>where there's some haziness around the historical record and when

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<v Speaker 1>he stopped using his birth name and switched to Gerber.

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<v Speaker 1>Ditmar actually still appears on a nineteen seventeen draft card,

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<v Speaker 1>although at that point Henry claimed exemption on that card

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<v Speaker 1>as a conscientious objector, and it's possible that he purposely

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<v Speaker 1>shifted the name back to his original Bavarian name in

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<v Speaker 1>an effort to create some paperwork confusion over his status.

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<v Speaker 1>That's purely speculation. I don't know based on what I've seen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't seen the actual card, if that was

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<v Speaker 1>a pre printed card or if it's something he wrote in.

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<v Speaker 1>But eventually, we do know that his military records cross

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<v Speaker 1>referenced both names, both Dittmar and Gerber. During the early

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<v Speaker 1>part of World War One, he was labeled as an

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<v Speaker 1>enemy alien, and he was taken to an internment camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Really sensationalist stories in the press, gossip circles about German

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<v Speaker 1>spies in the United States caused a lot of German

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<v Speaker 1>immigrants to be looked upon with suspicion, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>no exception. After the war was over, Gerber re enlisted

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of nineteen nineteen and he worked for

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<v Speaker 1>the military as a printer and a proofreader, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was shipped to Coblin's Germany as part of the US

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<v Speaker 1>Army of Occupation in nineteen twenty and there he worked

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<v Speaker 1>on the Amarok News, which is a daily paper that

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<v Speaker 1>was published to keep American soldiers that were stationed abroad,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in Germany, informed and entertained, and it published everything

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<v Speaker 1>from poems and short stories to the latest sports scores.

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<v Speaker 1>While he was in Germany serving as a United States soldier,

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<v Speaker 1>Gerber was exposed to that country's homosexual emancipation movement and

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<v Speaker 1>as also to the Scientific Humanitarian Committee that was a

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<v Speaker 1>critical part of that movement. And I'll give a little

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<v Speaker 1>background on the German homosexual emancipation movements, and we're also

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk a little bit about Magnus Hirschfield who

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<v Speaker 1>was also mentioned and in the Compton's Cafeteria episode. So

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<v Speaker 1>the criminal code in Germany was amended in eighteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>one with the inclusion of what is called paragraph one

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five, and that piece of legislation made it illegal

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<v Speaker 1>for men to engage in sexual acts with one another.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty six years after paragraph one seventy five was adopted

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<v Speaker 1>into law, the Scientific Humanitarian Community was founded in Berlin

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<v Speaker 1>by Magnus Hirschfeld. One of the huge achievements of Hirschfield's

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<v Speaker 1>life was the deconstruction of homosexuality from a biological perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of moving it away from being defined as a

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<v Speaker 1>pathology and with a scientific approach to the issue of homosexuality,

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<v Speaker 1>the Scientific Humanitarian Committee was making some progress towards LGBT rights,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were making that progress right up until Hitler's

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<v Speaker 1>rise and the Nazi Party's persecution of any perceived sexual devians.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Nazi Party actually burned down Magnus Hirschfeld's in

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<v Speaker 2>Institute for Research into Sexuality. That's sort of been alluded

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<v Speaker 2>to in a couple of episodes that we have talked

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<v Speaker 2>about that have been on this subject, and we've never

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<v Speaker 2>gone into a lot of detail, but yeah, the Nazi

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<v Speaker 2>Party destroyed his facility and all the research that was

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<v Speaker 2>in it. And we're just giving you kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>brief and quick on that to kind of contextualize what

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<v Speaker 2>happens next when Gerber returned to the US. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about that influence after his time in Germany

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<v Speaker 2>and his exposure to the homosexual emancipation movement, But first

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to have a quick word from a sponsor.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time Gerber returned to the US, he was

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<v Speaker 2>well acquainted with the homosexual emancipation movement. He had spent

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<v Speaker 2>his time in Germany reading magazines and other literature about

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<v Speaker 2>the movement and also getting to know its leaders. He

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<v Speaker 2>would kind of travel around Germany and go to lectures

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<v Speaker 2>and really immerge himself in this whole ideology to learn

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<v Speaker 2>about it. And he thought, if Germany could have this

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<v Speaker 2>growing and thriving for the time homosexual culture that was

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<v Speaker 2>willing to speak out for rights, why couldn't we have

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<v Speaker 2>that in the US. So one of the things about

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<v Speaker 2>the United States was that there was just a lack

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<v Speaker 2>of uniformity in legislation across the country regarding sex. It

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<v Speaker 2>had created a really tangled mess, and that was facing

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<v Speaker 2>anyone who wanted to work toward the cause of rights.

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<v Speaker 2>Being labeled as immoral in his home country for being

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<v Speaker 2>homosexual just really seemed to be an incredible injustice to

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<v Speaker 2>gerber Yeah, and I have to wonder about sort of

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<v Speaker 2>the duality of it in terms of his home country.

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<v Speaker 2>I put that word in the notes, and he considered

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<v Speaker 2>the US his home country, even though he had come

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<v Speaker 2>from Bavaria. And so it's kind of interesting that he

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<v Speaker 2>then went back to Germany and saw them kind of

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<v Speaker 2>working towards this progressive idea of rights, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>went to his chosen home where he just did not

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<v Speaker 2>have of that same kind of social movement going on.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of fascinating from that perspective. And when

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<v Speaker 2>he returned to Chicago in nineteen twenty three after his

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<v Speaker 2>three years in Germany, he started working as an employee

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<v Speaker 2>at the US Postal Service, and he saw that Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>had this growing gay subculture, which was secret in most

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<v Speaker 2>areas of the city but fairly open in the bohemian

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood of Tower Town, which is in the near North

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<v Speaker 2>Side area. And as he saw the gay and lesbian

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<v Speaker 2>community growing, he wanted to create a way to protect

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<v Speaker 2>these people's rights. Inspired by what he had seen in Germany,

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<v Speaker 2>he launched his own plan to create an organization that

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<v Speaker 2>would mimic the ones that were involved in Germany's emancipation movement.

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<v Speaker 2>He knew that he could not do it alone, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was really difficult to find other people who were

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<v Speaker 2>willing to take the risks that were inherent in participating

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<v Speaker 2>in this kind of mission. He tried to network with

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<v Speaker 2>other activists, including birth control advocate Margaret Sanger, but he

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<v Speaker 2>never managed to George and the alliances. His efforts to

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<v Speaker 2>reach out to the gay men he knew of and

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<v Speaker 2>business in Chicago were met pretty coldly at best. Prominent

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<v Speaker 2>business people were just not willing to risk their jobs

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<v Speaker 2>and families to fight for what they thought was definitely

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<v Speaker 2>a losing cause.

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<v Speaker 1>Yees, if it's not completely clear. At this point, pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much all these people were closeted outside of Tower Town

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<v Speaker 1>like nobody knew that any of these people were gay,

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<v Speaker 1>and after a year of searching for allies, Gerber and

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<v Speaker 1>six other men that he had managed to round up

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<v Speaker 1>founded Chicago's Society for Human Rights in nineteen twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>applying for a charter to incorporate the group on December

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<v Speaker 1>tenth of that year, and it was the first gay

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<v Speaker 1>rights organization in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>The Society of Human Rights published a newsletter called Friendship

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<v Speaker 2>and Freedom, which circulated to all of its members. Was

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty small group, and not many people wanted literature

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<v Speaker 2>that my out them to show up in their mailboxes.

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<v Speaker 2>Postal inspectors cooperated with law enforcement and would report suspicious materials.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, pretty much all of this would have

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<v Speaker 2>been considered obscene.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, all pretty much illegal. Nonetheless, Gerbert continued his work,

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<v Speaker 1>and the mission of the Society was to educate the

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<v Speaker 1>heterosexual community about homosexuality and to reform the laws that

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<v Speaker 1>made homosexuality criminal. But they had to be very very

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<v Speaker 1>careful about this.

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<v Speaker 2>The charter for the group relayed this purpose this way

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<v Speaker 2>quote to promote and protect the interests of people who,

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<v Speaker 2>by reasons of mental and physical abnormalities, are abused and

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<v Speaker 2>hindered in a legal pursuit of happiness, which is guaranteed

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<v Speaker 2>them by the Declaration of Independence, and to combat the

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<v Speaker 2>public prejudices against them by dissemination of factors according to

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<v Speaker 2>modern science. Among intellectuals of mature age. The society stands

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<v Speaker 2>only for law and order. It is in harmony with

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<v Speaker 2>any and all general laws insofar as they protect the

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<v Speaker 2>rights of others, and does in no manner recommend any

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<v Speaker 2>acts and violation of present laws, nor advocate in any

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<v Speaker 2>manner inimical to public welfare. You probably noticed that there

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<v Speaker 2>is no mention there of homosexuality or gay rights. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>this was still a time when it was absolutely illegal

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<v Speaker 2>to be gay, thanks to sodomy laws in Illinois. There

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<v Speaker 2>were precedent cases that established oral sex as sodomy under

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<v Speaker 2>the letter of the law, including one which judicially categorized

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<v Speaker 2>fallatio as a crime against nature. This was not a

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<v Speaker 2>time that it would have been safe for an organization

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<v Speaker 2>intended to decriminalize homosexuality to be out and proud about it.

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<v Speaker 2>They had to be very, very careful and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>work in incremental, very slow steps. Unfortunately, their work did

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<v Speaker 2>not last very long at all. Just eight months after

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<v Speaker 2>it was founded, and with only two issues of Friendship

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<v Speaker 2>and Freedom having been published, everything came to a crashing halt.

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<v Speaker 2>In July nineteen twenty five, the wife of one of

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<v Speaker 2>the co founders reported her husband to a social worker.

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<v Speaker 2>After the couple's daughter said she had seen her father

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<v Speaker 2>and other men performing seances and other strange behavior. The

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<v Speaker 2>social worker she spoke with contacted police, and soon thereafter

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<v Speaker 2>the Society for Human Rights, which was headquartered in Gerber's home,

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<v Speaker 2>was rated. Gerber was arrested for deviant behavior. His typewriter,

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<v Speaker 2>his diaries, and other papers were seized, and at this

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<v Speaker 2>point in time, Illinois sodomy law stipulated a minimum one

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<v Speaker 2>year prison term for anyone found guilty, with the maximum

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<v Speaker 2>sentence of ten years, so this was quite a serious situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Gerber always insisted that the story of his colleagues's behavior,

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<v Speaker 2>as reported by his wife and related in the papers,

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<v Speaker 2>was fabricated, but because the accused husband, al Menager, was

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<v Speaker 2>confessed to being bisexual during police screening, no one cared

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<v Speaker 2>that the facts of the news weren't entirely accurate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and this also came as a surprise to Gerber. He

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<v Speaker 2>he had not even known, according to what I read

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<v Speaker 2>that the members of his group, that any of them

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<v Speaker 2>were married. So when this turned up and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a wife that had reported one of them, remember, he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't really that keen on bisexuals, so This was a

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<v Speaker 2>really kind of weird and awkward situation in addition to

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<v Speaker 2>being dangerous and kind of a powder keg. Gerber was

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<v Speaker 2>held by the police for several days. He was allowed

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<v Speaker 2>a phone call the morning after his arrest, which he

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<v Speaker 2>used to call work and explain his absence, and his

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<v Speaker 2>supervisor kind of tried to help him out. He wrote

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<v Speaker 2>up the situation as absent on leave in an effort

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<v Speaker 2>to cover for Gerber. Henry endured three trials with his colleagues.

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<v Speaker 2>The only evidence against him that was supposed to prove

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<v Speaker 2>that he was homosexual was a powder puff that was

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<v Speaker 2>allegedly found in his room.

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<v Speaker 1>Ee. Yeah, that's widely believed to have been planted. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>he was not, by any accounts I have read, a

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<v Speaker 1>cross dresser. He wasn't. He didn't dabble in any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of alternate gender expression. So this powder puffs, it's very jarring.

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<v Speaker 1>In the record, it seems very weird and out of place. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the charges against him were eventually dropped, and that happened

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<v Speaker 1>when a judge realized this was during the third trial

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<v Speaker 1>that Gerber had been arrested without a warrant, but unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>he had spent his entire savings up to this point,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly on this third trial, hiring an attorney so that

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<v Speaker 1>he could try to sort of save himself from this mess.

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<v Speaker 2>The raid and the trials had been reported by the news,

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<v Speaker 2>with the Chicago Examiner running a story about it under

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<v Speaker 2>the headline strange sex cult exposed, So even though he

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<v Speaker 2>had been released and the charges were dropped, he was

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<v Speaker 2>still fired from his postal job in the wake of

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<v Speaker 2>the incident for a quote conduct unbecoming a postal worker. Additionally,

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<v Speaker 2>all records of the Society for Human Rights and their

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<v Speaker 2>Friendship and Freedom Newsletter that had been seized in the

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<v Speaker 2>red were destroyed, and for decades this important aspect of

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<v Speaker 2>LGBT history was basically erased. There are no surviving copies

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<v Speaker 2>of the Friendship and Freedom newsletter. A review of it

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<v Speaker 2>was reprinted in the book Paris Gay nineteen twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>which came out in nineteen eighty one. The review describes

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<v Speaker 2>the newsletter as moral and says that it included a

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<v Speaker 2>poem by Walt Whitman and an essay about Oscar Wilde's

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<v Speaker 2>practice of wearing a green carnation in his lapel. It's

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<v Speaker 2>long been rumored, but not ever confirmed that Wild in

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<v Speaker 2>his social circle would wear green carnations as a secret

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<v Speaker 2>symbol of homosexuality. Yeah, so that's how that essay would

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<v Speaker 2>have appeared in the newsletter. And in just a moment,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about Henry's life after the raid

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<v Speaker 2>and subsequent trials and how that put an end to

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<v Speaker 2>the Society for Human Rights. But first we're gonna take

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<v Speaker 2>a brief word from a sponsor. After all of these

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<v Speaker 2>things that we've talked about, Henry Gerber was in need

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<v Speaker 2>of a fresh start, and he chose to move to

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<v Speaker 2>New York City. In nineteen twenty seven, he re enlisted

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<v Speaker 2>with the US Army and then he would serve for

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen years. He's also said to have been frustrated at

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<v Speaker 2>this point with the lack of activism within what he

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<v Speaker 2>called the Dorian crowd. He was also really exasperated at

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<v Speaker 2>his perception that other gay men were too willing to

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<v Speaker 2>accept the commonly held belief that homosexuality was a mental illness,

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<v Speaker 2>and people were seemingly willing to accept a life of

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<v Speaker 2>clandestine meetings in a state of fearfulness. Yeah, so he

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<v Speaker 2>basically kind of kept on the downlow after this, but

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<v Speaker 2>he did continue to write, so throughout the thirties, Gerber

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<v Speaker 2>wrote articles for gay magazines. He used a pen name,

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<v Speaker 2>and he also managed a correspondence club which was called Contacts,

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<v Speaker 2>which would eventually become a communications network for gay men

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<v Speaker 2>in the US. And he also wrote an essay called

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<v Speaker 2>in Defense of Homosexuals which was published in The Modern Thinker,

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<v Speaker 2>and he wrote that under the pseudonym Parasex. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>thirty four, he even wrote an anti Hitler paper openly

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<v Speaker 2>criticizing Hitler's treatment of homosexuals.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which was kind of bold and a little bit dangerous,

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<v Speaker 1>even written under a pen name. Then a few years

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<v Speaker 1>down the road, there was a man named Manuel Boyfrank

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<v Speaker 1>and he was a gay activist in California, and he

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to Henry Gerber in the nineteen forties. He

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<v Speaker 1>was hoping to get some assistance in creating a new

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<v Speaker 1>movement to fight the oppression of homosexuals. And while Gerber

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<v Speaker 1>was glad to help out through his writing, he did

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<v Speaker 1>not want to attach his real name to the effort

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<v Speaker 1>and take a real pivotal role. He just did not

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<v Speaker 1>want to risk losing everything again. Throughout his military career,

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<v Speaker 1>he dealt with harassment. He was blackmailed and beaten. His

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<v Speaker 1>quarters at Governor's Island were searched by Army investigators in

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<v Speaker 1>February nineteen forty two. They found no illegal materials or

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of illegal behavior, but just the same he was

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<v Speaker 1>held in the guard house for several weeks after the search.

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<v Speaker 1>He was honorably discharged in nineteen forty five. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty a new gay rights organization formed called the Mattachine Society.

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<v Speaker 1>We referenced that in the earlier episode about the Compton's

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<v Speaker 1>Cafeteria riot. And in nineteen fifty two this group began

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<v Speaker 1>publishing the first gay and lesbian national newsletter, which was

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<v Speaker 1>called One. And when Gerber found out about One, he

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<v Speaker 1>actually wrote to the magazine with an account of his

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<v Speaker 1>efforts to start the Society for Human Rights and his

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<v Speaker 1>attempts to get a previous newsletter out called Friendship and Freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen fifty eight, One was part of a First

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<v Speaker 1>Amendment case heard by the US Supreme Court. This case

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<v Speaker 1>was incredibly important because it eventually led to the ruling

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<v Speaker 1>that publishing homosexual content did not mean a publication was

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<v Speaker 1>inherently obscene. Yeah, prior to that, if you even said,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, suggested that two men might care for

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<v Speaker 1>one another romantically. It was pretty much obscenity, whereas this

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<v Speaker 1>drew that boundary of like, no, that's not automatically obscene,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. Years later, in nineteen sixty three one the

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<v Speaker 1>magazine actually ran a full story about Gerber's efforts and

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<v Speaker 1>the work that he was doing in the nineteen twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>and it kind of reintroduced his part in the LGBT

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<v Speaker 1>rights movement to inter Record.

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<v Speaker 2>In his retirement years, Henry Gerber moved to the US

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<v Speaker 2>Soldiers and Airman's Home in Washington, d C. He died

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<v Speaker 2>there on December thirty first, nineteen seventy two, from pneumonia.

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<v Speaker 2>He was eighty years old. In nineteen ninety two, posthumously,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, Henry was inducted into the Chicago Gay and

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<v Speaker 2>Lesbian Hall of Fame, and in February of twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>the house at seventeen ten North Carearley Court in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 2>which is where Gerber lived when he founded the Society

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<v Speaker 2>for Human Rights, was nominated as a National Historic Landmark.

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<v Speaker 2>The National Historic Landmarks Committee unanimously approved the nomination. The

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<v Speaker 2>next step in the process was for it to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the National Park Service Advisory Board in May twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>We have not yet been able to find any information

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<v Speaker 2>about how that went since that we are recording this

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<v Speaker 2>literally immediately after the conclusion of May twenty fifteen, that

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<v Speaker 2>they have not published their notes yet. Today it's June second,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that we're recording. So if it's approved by

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<v Speaker 2>the Advisory Board, the nomination would then move to the

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<v Speaker 2>Secretary of the Interior for final approval.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, his home may become a National Historic Landmark.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like it's on track for that to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but you never know what will happen in the process,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's something to look forward to. We may have

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<v Speaker 1>an update soon, which would be exciting. So yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the story of Henry Gerber. He is a tricky He's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those people that he comes up for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. He was written about in sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>here's the the LGBT rights activists you have never heard of.

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<v Speaker 1>But even so, as we mentioned in the episode, there

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<v Speaker 1>are some blank spots in there that are not always

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<v Speaker 1>entirely clear. And because he's maybe not the most sort

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<v Speaker 1>of charming character, I think he gets overlooked anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of his.

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<v Speaker 2>Prejudices like continue to exist today, Like there is still

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of anti bisexual sentiment and like a yes,

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<v Speaker 2>a general trend of kind of assuming anyone who has

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship with a person of the same sex is

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<v Speaker 2>gay or lesbian and that bisexuality is not a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's a lot of those ideas continue to crop

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<v Speaker 2>up today, years and years later after his death. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's that's not a I didn't go away, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, within any community, there is always fracturing,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was, you know, kind of one of the

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<v Speaker 2>first people that that exemplifies some of that going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's easy to go, oh, well, that's how it

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.000
<v Speaker 2>was in the twenties, which again I always just feel

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<v Speaker 2>like we have to pause and go this was something

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 2>he was working on in the nineteen twenties, so much

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<v Speaker 2>earlier than we really think about this movement. But a

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 2>lot of those issues still echo today. So it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of an interesting touchstone and we can kind of see

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