1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Stone's Touring Party is a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 2: I guess to start most importantly, STP tour. Was it fun? 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 3: Oh man, I've been trying to recreate that fun the 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 3: rest of my life and can not even come close. 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was more fun than anybody should ever have. 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 5: It was like you were part of a conquering army 7 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 5: and you were sweeping across America. You were invulnerable, you 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 5: had security guys. You were inside the bubble. You never 9 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 5: saw the outside world unless you wanted to. All you 10 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 5: had to do was bring your bag down to the 11 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 5: lobby in the morning, and you were riding in the 12 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 5: black limos. And then you were in the next city. 13 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 4: And you knew history was being made. 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 5: We were front page news in every city. 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 4: It permeated everything. 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: Everybody in the country was aware that there was a 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: Rolling Stones tour. I don't think you could say that 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: about any other rock group that toured. Everybody in the 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: country was aware. You know, it was on Johnny Carson, 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: who was on Dicavit. It was on every source of media. 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 3: You couldn't be awake the end of nineteen seventy two 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: and not known that the Rolling Stones had toured America. 23 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 5: I'm not saying it was the greatest rock and roll 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 5: tour of all time? Why would I say that? They 25 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 5: certainly hasn't been anything like it since. 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: My name's Jordan rundalg Welcome to the Stones Touring Party, Hollywood, 27 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy two. Mid May kids in wannabse cruise sunset 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: with their car tops down, spilling the sounds of rock 29 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: and roll onto the crowded boulevard. Exile on Main Street. 30 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: The double disc epic by the Rolling Stones is new 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: to the airwaves and being beamed out constantly, hovering over 32 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: sunny La, like a dark cloud of decadence in the brevity. 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: If any of these kids knew what was going down 34 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: in the anonymous instrument rental shop they just sped past, 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: they'd probably have a head on. But like all the 36 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: best things in life, if you knew, you had to 37 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 2: know the right people, they won't tell you. At the 38 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: front desk, if you asked whether a certain band of 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: renegade English superstars were in their midst rehearsing for the 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: biggest tour in rock history at that very moment, you'd 41 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 2: be met with a blank stare. Don't believe them, Head 42 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: to the back down the hall, take a write. A 43 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: stunningly beautiful blonde with eyes like blue jade stands guard. 44 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: Don't worry, she's a friend. Stick with us. A sign 45 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: on the rehearsal room door reads Extraterrestrial Funk. But you 46 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: know this band by another name. On vocals, mister Mick Jagger, 47 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: who always seems smaller and quieter at first meeting than 48 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: he really is. On lead and rhythm guitars, Mister Keith Richards, 49 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: a person you would look at twice in any crowd, 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: once described by a lady who seemed quite taken with 51 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: him as quote, absolutely the most physically foreboding person I 52 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: have ever seen. Keith has added a golden rooster track 53 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: of frosting to one side of his thatched artichoke cut hair, 54 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: and around his neck he wears a turquoise necklace. On 55 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: lead and rhythm guitars, Mister Mick Taylor, the youngest in 56 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: the band, still nearly a kid, A beautiful soloist and 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: pure blues musician on drums, twirling the sticks in his 58 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: hands forever. Mister Charlie Watts, with a pile of empty 59 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: beer cans growing around his feet. On bass, Mister Bill Wyman, 60 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: who's the oldest person in the band if not rock 61 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: and roll, and along with Watt's possessor of one of 62 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: the great buster Keaton Stone faces ladies and gentlemen the 63 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: Rolling Stone. That description comes courtesy of Robert Greenfield, the 64 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: legendary rock journalist who is Rolling Stone Magazine's anointed Stones correspondent. 65 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: In the early seventies, as a twenty something, he accompanied 66 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: the band on the road for several tours and even 67 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: lived with Keith Richards for several weeks in southern France 68 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: while the Stones recorded Exile on Main Street. But nothing 69 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: will top their historic trek across the US and the 70 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: summer of seventy two, bringing Exile tracks to the masses 71 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: as the country threatened to come apart at the seams. 72 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: The experience formed the basis of Greenfield's hugely influential first book, 73 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy three's STP. A Journey through America with the 74 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: Rolling Stones. What's STP? You ask, Well, here's Robert Greenfield 75 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: to clue you in. 76 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 5: Something I think semi interesting about the tour. It was 77 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 5: the first time into my knowledge that laminate's wherever you use. 78 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 5: Never before a laminate is a badge that you wear 79 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 5: everywhere because without your laminate you're a non person, and 80 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 5: so on the laminate below your face, and they took 81 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 5: everybody's photo. It said S dot T dot P s STP, 82 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 5: which stood for Stones Touring Party, which is so English, 83 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 5: like oh man, so proper, you know. 84 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: The first full length account of a rock and roll tour, 85 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: The STP book, was the result of Bob's unparalleled access 86 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 2: through weeks on the road and more than sixty hours 87 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: of interviews with the band and their entourage. 88 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 5: My intention in the book was to write about America 89 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 5: in the summer of nineteen seventy two, as seen from 90 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 5: the vantage point of someone who was on the tour 91 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 5: with Rolling Stones, and it was very much about them, 92 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 5: but I kept trying to make it also about where 93 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 5: they were what we were doing. Wasn't particularly trying to 94 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 5: write a book about drugs and sex and rock and 95 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 5: roll that you know, that concept came about a long 96 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 5: time later. It was a lifestyle. But the Stones are 97 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 5: already separate from even that. They were doing what they 98 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 5: were doing on a level that no one else was 99 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 5: doing in terms of drugs and sex and rock and roll. 100 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: Now, for the very first time, Bob's sharing his tape archive, 101 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: allowing us to sit in on intimate chats with the 102 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: Rolling Stones and their prime These interviews have been unheard 103 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: for half a century, courtesy of Robert Greenfield's archive at 104 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: the Northwestern University Library. You'll be deep in conversation with 105 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: the likes of Keith Richards. 106 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 6: I mean, when you're on the road, who's having special 107 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 6: sort of states. I mean, you're not connected to the 108 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 6: real world too, and so everything has a different kind 109 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 6: of value and a different meaning. 110 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: You and Mick Jagger. 111 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 7: I mean, there was a few places that it did 112 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 7: get scary, and there was a lot of guns, confy 113 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 7: Scots and stuff like that. 114 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: Bob will be joined throughout this series by his good 115 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: friend and fellow STP Torvette Gary Stromberg, a rock PR 116 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: supremo who's represented a whole jukebox worth of the twentieth 117 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: century's greatest artists. 118 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 3: In the early seventies, I was running I don't want 119 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 3: to sound boastful, but I had what was probably the 120 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: pre eminent PR firm in the music business, and we 121 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: were representing pretty much the who's who of rock and 122 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 3: roll at that time, almost everybody from England that was 123 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: of note other than the Beatles from Pink Floyd on down. 124 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: His charming humility has prevented him from mentioning Ray, Charles Elton, 125 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: John The Doors, Crosby Stills, A Nash, and Three Dog Night. 126 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: With that kind of track record, it was only a 127 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: matter of time before he got a call about a 128 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: new proposition. 129 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: Would you be interested in representing the Stones? I was cocky, 130 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: and let's just say that I was cocky, and you know, 131 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 3: I didn't want to sound like it was too easy, 132 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: playing hard to get a little bit, and I said, yeah, well, 133 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: I'll think about that. 134 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 2: Shocker. Gary took the gig, thus earning him a spot 135 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: on the STP tour, where he met Robert Greenfield. 136 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 5: Gary and I still have this relationship fifty years later 137 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 5: and have known each other throughout our adult lives. It 138 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 5: speaks to the fact that it wasn't drudgery, it wasn't 139 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 5: a gig. It certainly was peak experience. 140 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 8: It was. 141 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 5: An experience that very few other people have ever had. 142 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 5: And so if you shared it and you came out 143 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 5: of it alive, and. 144 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: It's going to say that surviving it was a in 145 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: and of itself, was a I mean, I had a 146 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: lot of people that aren't here today that are The 147 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: roadside is littered with people that didn't make it. 148 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 4: From my experience in the rock and roll world. 149 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 5: It's the time that's not going to come again. I 150 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 5: mean everything we're talking about is a combination of the 151 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 5: time and the people and the context. It's not understandable. 152 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 5: You could read about something that happened, you could see 153 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 5: a movie about something that happened the ways ago. But 154 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 5: unless people who were living through that are talking to 155 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 5: you about it, they're the only ones who can recreate 156 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 5: what it was like to be alive at a certain 157 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 5: point in time. We're back to the oral tradition. You 158 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 5: have to hear this from people who were there, who 159 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 5: experienced it, and it's been proven to me here for 160 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,119 Speaker 5: Gary and I who now look at it and understand 161 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 5: it in a completely different way. Yeah, we have perspective, Yes, 162 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 5: which is God's grace. Yes, say thank you. 163 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: Consider this show. You're very own stp Lamine on all 164 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: access pass that takes you from the front road to 165 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: backstage and from the private jets to the private after 166 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 2: show affairs. We're going on the road with the greatest 167 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: rock and roll band in the world. On the tour 168 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: that showed us what it means to party like a 169 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 2: rock star. Each episode will stop in a different city, 170 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: taking in the sights, sounds, riots, bombings, drug busts, another 171 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: assorted mayhem from this pivotal moment in American history. The 172 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: Rolling Stones were the last band standing at the dawn 173 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: of the seventies, or at least that's how it seemed. 174 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: As Robert Greenfield observes an stp they were the only 175 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: great group of the sixties still around on the original form, 176 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: playing original rock and roll. The nineteen seventy two tour 177 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: was their first trip to the state since their friendly 178 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: rivals the Beatles, had dissolved, and their absence had re 179 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: established the rock and roll pecking order. Simply put, with 180 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: the Beatles gone, everybody moved up one. After ten years 181 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: of playing together, the Stones have become the number one 182 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: attraction in the world and released a string of their 183 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: best loved albums, culminating an exile on Main Street that spring. 184 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: As Robert writes, they were royalty, undeniably by acclamation, and 185 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: to America they came. They received their crown. 186 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 5: Seventy two is the end of the first act of 187 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 5: their career. It's the highlight reel of the end of 188 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 5: the first act where they really have made the best 189 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 5: three albums back to back to back. This was them 190 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 5: at their artistic peak, you know, Beggar's Banquet, let it Bleed, 191 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 5: sticky Fingers, Eggsile, and they're the kings of America for 192 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 5: however many weeks as the tour win and everybody wrecked, 193 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 5: they become the world's greatest rock and roll band. On 194 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 5: the nineteen seventy two tour. 195 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 2: Drummer Charlie Watts was a little more humble in this 196 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 2: assessment of his group's abilities. 197 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 9: And we've never been a band of musicians, you know, 198 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 9: it's always set out to be, you know, girlfew Arsen Dunes. 199 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: You know, it was so fast, everything was moving at 200 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: lightning speed. It felt like there was no stopping. They 201 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: did so many gigs, so many gigs. He never cut 202 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: your breath. You just moved from one to the next. 203 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: There was no time for reflection ever for me. 204 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 5: In the blazing heat of summer in America, at a 205 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 5: time when there was you know, fighting in the streets, 206 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 5: it wasn't. 207 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 4: Over no, not not even by long shot. Was it over. 208 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: The stones nineteen seventy two tour was a dangerous trek 209 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: through a country at war with itself, the flames of 210 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: the sixties revolution still smolder. This was especially true on 211 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: college campuses, where students protested the conflict in Vietnam, which 212 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: dragged into its seventh year with no end in sight. 213 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy National Guard has been gunned down four 214 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: students during a peaceful protest that ken state to the 215 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: youth of America. The tragedy summarized the savage lengths the 216 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: establishment would god to eliminate opposition. Figures of hope and 217 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: change like Martin Luther, King, Malcolm X, and Robert F. 218 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: Kennedy had all been shot to death under cloudy circumstances. 219 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: Black Panther activist Fred Hampton was assassinated in his bed 220 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: by law enforcement, while fellow Panthers Angelo Davis and Bobby 221 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: Seal rotted in prisoned. This paranoid brutality seemed to extend 222 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: to the very top of US government. Two weeks before 223 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: the STP tour kicked off in the summer of seventy two, 224 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: burglar Is, acting on orders from President Nixon's administration, broke 225 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: into the Democratic National Headquarters at the Watergate Hotel, igniting 226 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 2: a scandal that would alter American politics forever. Nixon's FBI chief, 227 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: the notoriously reactionary jag Er Hoover, kept thick files on 228 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: the outspoken members of the left leaning rock establishment who 229 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: held tremendous way over the enormous block of newly eligible 230 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: young voters. Figures like John Lennon, Jimmy Hendrix, and the 231 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: Monkeys were monitored and even harassed, but Hoover reserved special 232 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: scorn for the Stones. According to a former FBI operative, 233 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 2: jag Or Hoover hated Jagger probably more than any other 234 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: pop cultural figure of his generation. By embarking on the 235 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: STP tour, the Rolling Stones were headed for a crossfire hurricane. 236 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 5: Counterculture was pretty much out on its feet. Okay, hippie 237 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 5: thing was still going on. It was real political been 238 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 5: a lot of political violence. It was a serious time 239 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 5: of transition. This tour was fraught with insanity coming from 240 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 5: out side. You have a bombing in Montreal, they're setting 241 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 5: fire to Boston. The Hell's Angels are serving you with 242 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 5: legal papers, making you think they're coming after you in 243 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 5: more than one way. And they generated this energy. Mad 244 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 5: mad mad so I'm sure it made the concerts better. 245 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 5: Don't ask me why. 246 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: This mad energy came to a head on The Stone's 247 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: previous American tour in nineteen sixty nine. During their infamous 248 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: free concert at the Altamont Speedway that December, conceived as 249 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: a thank you to their fans, the good intentions were 250 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: undermined by the decision to hire the Hell's Angels of security, 251 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: where according to rock Myth, they were paid for their 252 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: services with five hundred dollars worth of beer. The all 253 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: day concert was a logistical nightmare, beset by chaos and violence. 254 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: For the Stones, the mood was set from the moment 255 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: they exited their helicopter when Mick Jagger got punched in 256 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: the face by an agitated attendee. As the day wore on, 257 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: Hell's Angels speed Freaks attempted to maintain order by cracking 258 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: pool cues over the skulls of eq will. He blasted 259 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: acid casualties. They even knocked out Jefferson Airplane singer Marty 260 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: Ballen in the middle of the band's performance. 261 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 5: We talk about Altamont. The ultimate test of Altamont is 262 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 5: the Grateful Dead turned around and went home. So if 263 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 5: there's a gig that the Grateful Dead are not going 264 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 5: to play because it's too chaotic for them. 265 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: Whoa The beatings continued throughout the audience all afternoon, but 266 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: it turned deadly at nightfall. During the Stone set, eighteen 267 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: year old Meredith Hunter pulled a pistol out of his 268 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: jacket his feet from the front of the stage. One 269 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: of the Hell's angels descended on him with a knife, 270 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: stabbing him at least six times. The terrified band saw 271 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: the skirmish, but fearing a riot, finished the concert anyway. 272 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: It wasn't until later that they learned they just witnessed 273 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: a murder. The killing was captured on camera by filmmakers 274 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: Albert and David Masels. It became the pivotal scene in 275 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: their groundbreaking nineteen seventy rock documentary Gimme Shelter. The film 276 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: ends with Mick Jagger watching the grizzly footage in an 277 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: editing room, his face impassive. For one of the most 278 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: image conscious celebrities of his generation, this was a rare 279 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: misstep and a damaging one. 280 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 5: More people saw the documentary than had been at Altamont. Obviously, 281 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 5: that documentary had an incredible impact at the time because 282 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 5: you can hear about violence, but when you see a 283 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 5: Hell's Angel stab of black man to death and they 284 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 5: caught it on film. 285 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: Altamont was instantaneously mythologized as the death of rock and 286 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: Roll's innocence, or at least whatever innocence rock and Roll 287 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: ever had. The Stones became the subject of scathing op 288 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: eds claiming that the band, and particularly Mick Jagger, then 289 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: deep into his Lucifer guys, had more or less brought 290 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: this on themselves. No sympathy for the devil this time around. 291 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: Rightly or wrongly, the band were held responsible by critics, fans, 292 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: and even fellow musicians. The Hell's Angels may have committed 293 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 2: the crime, they reasoned, but the Stones should have known 294 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: better than to get mixed up with them in the 295 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: first place. According to guitarist Mick Taylor, the guilt was 296 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: something that the entire band shouldered. 297 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 10: I think it affected all of us very profoundly. The 298 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 10: only thing we were very upset about was being accused 299 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 10: and how responsible for what happened. And you can't really 300 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 10: blame anybody in that kind of mass hysteria. People in 301 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 10: America know that the Hell's Angels are a violent organization. 302 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 10: And for that reason alone, I don't think they should 303 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 10: have been highed, as security are automatically gives them an excuse. 304 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 2: Rolling Stone magazine published an exhaustive twenty thousand word report 305 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: weeks later, describing the event as the product of diabolical egotism, hype, ineptitude, 306 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: money manipulation, and at base of fundamental lack of concern 307 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 2: for humanity, implicitly and unfairly laying the blame squarely at 308 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 2: Mick Jagger's feet. 309 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 5: I think it was about fame and money and success. 310 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 5: It was about a lot of people don't like the Kardashians. 311 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 5: Can't imagine why, but you know the Jagger has it 312 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 5: all yeah, and we want it and he made the 313 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 5: money off our backs. Interesting, huh. You have class warfare 314 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 5: here on some level. Anytime the Stones came to America, 315 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 5: they always crystallized what was going on. Came here in 316 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 5: sixty nine, you got it, revolution chaos. If he's you know, 317 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 5: the dark side of Woodstock, you know, blah blah blah. 318 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 5: It was that undefined anger that in fact defines America. 319 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 5: Everybody in America is always pissed off about something. Now 320 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 5: it's how much gas costs? Okay, it's very expensive, but 321 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 5: you can't exactly torch the gas station. You know, the 322 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 5: Stones drew this puss out of American society. It makes sense. 323 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 5: It's like some kind of virus, you know, they just 324 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 5: bring everything out. People are galvanized by them to do 325 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 5: stuff that normal human beings wouldn't otherwise do. Back then, 326 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 5: at least, you know, in. 327 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: A sense, this phenomenon had dogged the Stones since they 328 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: first arrived on American shores back in nineteen sixty four. 329 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: The Beatles, we'd beat them by a few months, were 330 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: the heroes of the British invasion. So the Stones were 331 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: forced into the role of anti heroes. 332 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 5: This just goes back to the nineteen fifties. They've come 333 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 5: for your daughters. The Black Nation is taking over our children. 334 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 5: But the Stones, unlike the Beatles, the Stones were despised immediately. Well, 335 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 5: the Beatles are so cute. Oh Paul, I love Paul. 336 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 5: You know ringo, it's so cute. Nobody called it rolling 337 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 5: Stones cute. They were punks. Maryann Faithful said that about them. 338 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 5: They were the first punks. They were ugly, they were angry, defiant, 339 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 5: defiant man. And so that what it happens here we 340 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 5: go law of karma that engender's anger, repression, and fear. 341 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 5: When they were here in sixty four for the first 342 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 5: time into Texas State Fair, cop pulled a gun on Keith. 343 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 5: Keith was drinking a cocktail of some do you know 344 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 5: this story? Keith was drinking something, well, Keith is always 345 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 5: drinking something. He was having a refreshment, you know, an 346 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 5: adult beverage, and the cop told him to pour it out. 347 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 5: Keith looked at him like, you must be joking. You're 348 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 5: not talking to me, Bro. And then the cop said 349 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 5: it again, and Keith didn't do it, and the cop 350 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 5: took out his gun and he held it on Keith 351 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 5: and said, boy, you know Texas, Imagine what Keith looked 352 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 5: like in Texas in sixty four, Bro, I want to 353 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 5: shoot him on side, okay? And he made him pour 354 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 5: it out into the toilet and flush it and then 355 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,120 Speaker 5: the cop left. And after that, Keith never went on 356 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 5: tour unless it was armed. He got the message. 357 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: Keith was also aware that his reputation is one of 358 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: rock's most notorious renegades, was also a liability. 359 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 6: I mean really, the press and just an extent that 360 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 6: public could have made the role in the stones outside 361 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 6: of the law, not above it, but outside of it. 362 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 6: For you to be a special thing in somebody's head, 363 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 6: you know, makes it impossible for you to really be 364 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 6: treasy fairly, you know. 365 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: But nineteen sixty four was a long way from nineteen 366 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: seventy two. In eight years, the teenybop mop topped music 367 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: fans had graduated in the full fledged adults, politicized by 368 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 2: the tumultuous decade of their youth, and imbued with liberal 369 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: and liberated cultural attitudes. 370 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 3: What seventy two represented for me was that we were 371 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 3: taking over. We being our generation. Now we're in power. 372 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: It created a much different dynamic in the way we 373 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 3: interacted with the world. 374 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: On the STP tour, Mick Taylor and Keith Richards found 375 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: a very different America than the one they'd seen just 376 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 2: three years earlier. 377 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 10: Nature of American society and in particularly the young people, 378 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 10: had changed. I got the feeling that they were more 379 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 10: genuinely enthusiastic this time, whereas on sixty nine till I 380 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 10: think your point earlier on about the rolling stones symbolizing 381 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 10: some kind of rebellious force against the establishment was probably 382 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 10: more believable then. 383 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 6: America to me. 384 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 7: This ship. 385 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 6: People just seem to be a good time and look 386 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 6: to watch their big symbol perform, you know. 387 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 5: Whatever. 388 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 6: Right in the stage you just see used to be 389 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 6: like you say, they came to see a show. 390 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 7: You know. 391 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 5: It actually has to do with Woodstock. Woodstock was the 392 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 5: event that crossed the counterculture and the music into coverage 393 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 5: by straight television. Cabot had Crosby Stills, Nash Young and 394 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 5: Jony On and she didn't go, but they were there 395 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 5: because this was a cultural event. Newsweek covered Woodstock. The 396 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 5: Stones were merged from having been the outlaw counterculture band 397 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 5: because when they played sixty nine, that was the meeting 398 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 5: of the tribes. You know, guys, you had to go 399 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 5: see the Stones man. 400 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 10: You see, I never really believed that rock music has 401 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 10: had any real redeeming cultural significance at all. It's only 402 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 10: because it's young people's music and it provides a sense 403 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 10: of community. I suppose most young people, you know, rock theaters, 404 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 10: concerts where they can meet and discuss all kinds of things. 405 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 10: I mean, young people aren't just interested in rock music, 406 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 10: so naturally political issues and all the kinds of things 407 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 10: tend to come up as well. Why that's why you know, 408 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 10: when we're at a press conference, we're asked, we're asked 409 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 10: what our feelings are about the Vietnam War, as anybody 410 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 10: who would be in that position would be. 411 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: As is often the case, these changes in culture led 412 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 2: the changes in business. 413 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 3: Record companies previously owned their artists, and the artists they 414 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: did what they were told. In seventy two, the artists 415 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 3: were the power. They weren't obliged to the dictates of 416 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: these big record companies. They were able to assert their own, 417 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 3: their own wishes, and their own control. So the Stones 418 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: had it all their own way at that in that tour, 419 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 3: nobody told them what to do. Music business had not 420 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: been set up previously to accommodate that kind of control. 421 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 5: And Gary's exactly right. The artists had taken over and 422 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 5: they dictated the terms because the money they generated was insane. 423 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 2: The Stones had spent the sixties signed to a draconian 424 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: deal with Decca Records, which left their personal finances and 425 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 2: chaos and next to nothing in the bank. So when 426 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: their contract expired at the start of the decade, they 427 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 2: created their own label, Rolling Stones Records, with a little 428 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: help from legendary music executive and Atlantic Records co founder 429 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: Ahmed Ertigen. 430 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 5: A'med Ertigan had established Rolling Stones Records. Marshall Chess, the 431 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 5: son of Leonard Chess and his uncle Phil Chess Chess Records, 432 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 5: was running the label for the first time in their history, 433 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 5: which sounds insane. They were in charge of their own fate. 434 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 5: They ran their own business. Mick to businessman and I'm 435 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 5: a brilliant, brilliant businessman and brilliant human being. Saw it 436 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 5: as a way to cross them over, to cross the 437 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 5: Stones over from being the outlaw band, which is what 438 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 5: they still were, being the hippie band into another level 439 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 5: of popular acclaim. 440 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: For i'm at Ertigan, the Stones and their songs were 441 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: never just going to be a flavor of the week. 442 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: Even then in nineteen seventy two, he recognized them for 443 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: what they were, timeless. 444 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 6: This is all still blues music, and blues music ain't 445 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 6: show business. 446 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 7: Is bigger than show business, is better than show business, 447 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 7: you know what I mean, is more soulful than show business. 448 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 5: Then they emerged from having been the outlaw counterculture band. 449 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 5: Now even though the audiences were still young, they were 450 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 5: now accepted in the mainstream. It was the highest grossing 451 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 5: tour in the history of rock and roll to that point, 452 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 5: and that was not an accident. 453 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 4: I mean, the success of. 454 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 11: The tour was I guess it was the most successful 455 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 11: rock and roll tour, you know, don't. 456 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 8: You think so. I've never gotten as many requests for 457 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 8: tickets all over the country. 458 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 4: I mean for every one of. 459 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 7: Those concerts, we had people calling it. I mean people 460 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 7: I hadn't heard from in ten years, five years call 461 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 7: me up with distressed you know voices saying I must 462 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 7: have two tickets, I. 463 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 5: Mean said, you know, it's I mean, I think that 464 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 5: I could have sold out of each concert myself, you know, just. 465 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 7: From the Flying Me exactly. But there's never been. 466 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 4: A concert of sword that had held that kind of. 467 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 2: General interest, general interest, mainstream. Those are dangerous words in 468 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 2: rock and roll. Well, the Stones about to become God 469 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: forbid respectable, not as far as Mick Jagger was concerned, but. 470 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 11: I mean, I think it's very difficult to make rolling 471 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 11: Stones respectable. But I don't think that the wrong stars 472 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 11: would be ever made respectable by that. 473 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: By that Bassis Bill Wyman. 474 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 8: Agreed, society kind of accepted us. Halfway through that tour, 475 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 8: we found that society was very interested in this I 476 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 8: couldn't care less. I'm not very interested in society, but 477 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 8: society like a music Good. 478 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 4: Luck to me. 479 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if I'm not playing. 480 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: Music for society, And so did Mick Taylor. 481 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 5: I think. 482 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 10: I think to say that it's been accepted is much 483 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 10: better than to say that it's. 484 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 5: Being made respectiveness. I just think it's touched more people. 485 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: It certainly touched a lot of people. Ticket demand was unprecedented. 486 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: In Chicago, thirty four thousand seats sold out in just 487 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: five and a half hours. Remember this was back in 488 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: a pre internet time and it was a lot tougher 489 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: than just refreshing the page. In Chicago, there were one 490 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty thousand requests for twelve thousand seats. In 491 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: other words, only one in ten Stones fans got satisfaction. 492 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: Given the lack of supply, capitalism took over, giving way 493 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: to the relatively new phenomenon known as scalping. A ticket 494 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: retailing for six fifty would go for upwards of fifty 495 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: or even one hundred dollars on the street, or trade 496 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: for tickets to Led Zeppelin, Jethro Tall and the Dead combined. 497 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 5: You couldn't get a ticket, you know, everything sold out instantaneously. 498 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 5: There wasn't anybody don't want to see them, who cared 499 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 5: about music. 500 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: You know, selling out a tour like that on the 501 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: first day the tickets go on sale unheard of. 502 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 4: Unheard of. Typically you would. 503 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 3: Sweat it out to the very last day to sell 504 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: as many tickets as you could in hopes of going 505 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: into the black. 506 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 5: They hadn't been here for three years, so now we've 507 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 5: gone through a pandemic where musicians have not worked and 508 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 5: you know, but it was different then. I mean, it 509 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 5: sounds so crazy. Time changes over time, if that makes 510 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 5: sense to you. Three years was a lot longer period 511 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 5: of time. Back then. It was almost like a semi 512 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 5: era where people who hadn't been into the stones before 513 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 5: Sticky Fingers changed a lot of minds. Okay, look at 514 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 5: the music that's on Sticky Fingers, right, and so the 515 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 5: energy generated by that album and not being able to 516 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 5: see them, it meant more. You couldn't see them on 517 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 5: the internet, there was no video, couldn't go to the movie. 518 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 5: You had to be there, and that was a big deal. 519 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: Mick Taylor considered the confluence of forces that brought the 520 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: fans out and. 521 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 10: Droves so it's not They're not there just for the music. 522 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 10: They can listen to the music in their own homes, 523 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 10: you know, they're they're there the spectacle and for the 524 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 10: our physical presence and the charisma, you know. I mean 525 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 10: they read whatever they like into it. But I mean essentially, 526 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 10: we're only there to play music. But it becomes much 527 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 10: more than that. But I think it comes from the 528 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 10: whole group, you know, really actually being there physically playing. 529 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: The excitement may have built in the three years since 530 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: the band toured America, but it also meant they were 531 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: three years older by nineteen seventy two. The Stones have 532 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: been rolling for a decade, which equals roughly a millennium 533 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: when converted to rock and roll years. New Boy Mick 534 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: Taylor may have been twenty three, but for Mick Jagger 535 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: and Keith Richards, the sun was setting on their twenties. 536 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: This was the era when people wore buttons that bore 537 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: the slogan don't trust anyone over thirty. Now, the Stones, 538 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: those heroes of hell raising and youthful rebellion, were approaching 539 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: this all important generational demarcation. Would they still be able 540 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: to connect with a new legion of young fans they'd 541 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: acquired with sticky fingers. Could the Stones still rock at 542 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 2: age thirty? 543 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: There may have been an age difference that the energy, 544 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 3: and he was a very youthful thirty, very energy and 545 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 3: fashion wise, I mean he was right on point fashion wise. 546 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 3: He never aged and at that time he had an 547 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: aged He still probably has an age. I mean he's 548 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: seventy five and and still. 549 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 5: I agree with Gary. There was no age cap any 550 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 5: anybody in that audience was just freaking out and dancing, 551 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 5: and you know, they just were having a time of 552 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 5: their life. 553 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: Even Keith marveled at the Stone's ability to transcend shifts 554 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: in the youth movement. 555 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 6: The thing that's certain which fans rage, that you seem 556 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 6: to have managed to keep the interest of the original 557 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 6: kids from the earliest sixties, you know, and also attract 558 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 6: a fair number of younger ones that were probably eight 559 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 6: or nine when we first went round. 560 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 5: You know, it was the event of the summer in 561 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 5: popular culture. 562 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 3: And also in a very positive way. There wasn't any 563 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 3: negativity around this at all. 564 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 5: It was all positive and ultimat was all negative, all negative. 565 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 5: They left American in sixty nine as the villains. They 566 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 5: killed somebody they're evil and dark. 567 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, so this was a positive. 568 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 3: This was you know, you could have a rock and 569 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 3: roll tour and excite the country and come away with it. 570 00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 4: There's a big success. 571 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: If Mick Jagger was feeling the strain of this mammoth undertaking, 572 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: he refused to let it show. 573 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 7: What was that that? 574 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 11: I mean that seventy two too, it was even bigger 575 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 11: than sixty nine. I didn't think you'd get any bigger 576 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 11: than that. More interest, yes, more pressure, No, really reckon 577 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 11: the interest them. 578 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 7: I don't know. 579 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 10: I think a lot of the interestingness could have been 580 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 10: stimulated by the fact that the nineteen sixty nine too, 581 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 10: was so disastrous at the end, and lots of people 582 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 10: expected us to probably fail. 583 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 5: But I was a bit worried about. 584 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 10: It, you know, because of what had happened before. But 585 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 10: I think the security arrangements the organization was so bad on. 586 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 5: The sixty sixty nine tour was dark, like criminal renne 587 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 5: cars that were abandoned and everybody ripped off, and chaos 588 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 5: and anarchy in an amateur manner and arrogant. They resulted 589 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 5: in ultimont you know. And Bill Graham called it the 590 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 5: Pearl Harbor Rock. There was no accident. The karma of 591 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 5: the sixty nine tour was truly dark, not so in 592 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 5: seventy two. It was a joyous occasion for many people 593 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 5: on a multiple levels. 594 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: From the earliest planning stages, the STP tour aimed to 595 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 2: correct the mistakes of their previous track. As Mick Jagger says, 596 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: the difference was night and day. 597 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 11: On the fact that Interesting nine there was no transportation, 598 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 11: no logistics probably arranged, there was no proper accommodation, and 599 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 11: the band was genuinely interested in doing another tour and 600 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 11: doing a good one, you know, and like going to 601 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 11: like picking out all these towns because like we had 602 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 11: never been there since X and what the. 603 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 7: Interesting dif from the public is just very gratifying. 604 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: And Bill Wyman agreed. 605 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 8: It was definitely because it's so incredibly well organized, which 606 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 8: us never are. 607 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 5: You always you always. 608 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 6: Getting up always. 609 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: According to Mick Taylor, the size was the crucial difference. 610 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 10: We played in the same kind of places really to 611 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 10: the same kind of audience. The really real difference was 612 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 10: the scale. 613 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 7: Of the two was a much more sai. 614 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 5: No k and roll tours are never saying I know 615 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 5: that not. 616 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 2: Thus the metaphorical stage was set for nineteen seventy two's 617 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 2: STP tour. That stands for the Stones Touring Party, but 618 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 2: the fact that SDP is also the street name for 619 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 2: a psychedelic amphetamines probably not complete coincidence. The tour had 620 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: multiple objectives. On the surface, it was designed to promote 621 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 2: the Stones' new album Exile on Main Street, but it 622 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: would also provide the Stones with a chance to mend 623 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 2: fences after the deadly disaster at Altamont, and finally, there 624 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 2: was a slightly less altruistic goal make a lot of money. 625 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: SDP marks the first tour of the modern rock era. 626 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: Planned for maximum efficiency, the forty eight date run would 627 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 2: be staged on a scale previously unseen in popular music, 628 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: with the largest entourage and rock history up to that point. 629 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: They had their own security team, their own film crew, 630 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 2: their own doctor, and a press corps that rivaled most 631 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 2: political campaigns. When all the laminits were printed up for 632 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: the more than forty person organization, it was clear that 633 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: this wasn't just a tour, but a grand event, an 634 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 2: all encompassing, hedonistic binge across the country. 635 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 5: This is the next step up for the business of 636 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 5: rock and roll. On tour they hadn't been there for 637 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 5: three years. Man, So when you have that much time, 638 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 5: that led to a lot of the planning. The headquarters 639 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 5: of the tour with the Beverly Rodeo Hotel Beverly Hills 640 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 5: was not then what it has become. The bar at 641 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 5: the Beverly Rodeo was all hookers. I'm not judging, you 642 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 5: know whatever, but it was kind of funky. Was a 643 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 5: funky little hotel. And they were in this room or 644 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 5: a suite of rooms, and it was Alan Dunn and 645 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 5: Joe Bergman and Peter Rudge and they were doing everything. 646 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 5: They were on four phones and they were eating breakfast 647 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 5: room service and talking and doing everything. 648 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 2: To mouth of tour on this scale, you needed someone 649 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 2: with an unparalleled logistical mind fueled by a mix of 650 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 2: ambition and insanity. As Keith Richards notes, such figures were 651 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 2: in short supply. 652 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 6: If you're going to do a big tour, you have 653 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 6: to have it playing down to the last detail, you know. 654 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 6: Peter r Yeah, I mean somebody that's done it and 655 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 6: as good at it and takes pride in doing it 656 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 6: properly and gets really screwed up if it. 657 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 4: Doesn't go right. 658 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 9: I mean it's got to be like that. 659 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 6: He's going to be somebo who's as interested in his 660 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 6: end of it as musicians are in there, which it's hard. 661 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 7: To find people like that, you know, people like Raji, very. 662 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 3: Rare, Peter rug who was the manager of this too. 663 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 3: It was probably the most intense guy that I've ever 664 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 3: worked with. 665 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 5: Went to Cambridge. Brilliant human being, you know, mad driven, 666 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 5: you know, no sleep. He could do it. He could 667 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 5: do it. 668 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 3: His focus and determination to get things done, his way 669 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 3: was unmatched and unrivaled, and thanks to him, it kept going. 670 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 3: But he just was a bull in a china shell. Yes, 671 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 3: he just bowled over anything in his way. 672 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 5: Oh my god. And he could talk fast. 673 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 3: He would sweat and his hair was he had long 674 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 3: hair that would stick to his head because he was 675 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 3: always always sweating, and just in a frenzy. He'd wake 676 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 3: up in the morning, he'd come down from the hotel, 677 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 3: he was already in a frenzy. And this is like 678 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 3: eight o'clock in the morning and Peter's already into you know, 679 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 3: a nine on a tense scale of frenziness. So and 680 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 3: that was the level that he operated on constantly. And 681 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 3: but you know, I think that largely. This thing got 682 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,760 Speaker 3: done because Peter was that intense. 683 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 2: But Regie's intensity he quickly went over Bill Wyman and 684 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,479 Speaker 2: the rest of the band. 685 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 8: I found that right. He's incredible because no only did 686 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 8: he get the whole thing together before we even wait 687 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 8: said it out, well, he got the right people and 688 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 8: he arranged every detail right down to the tiniest little 689 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 8: things that were always left to somebody else and never 690 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 8: always got done all the time. 691 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 5: You know, he has planned this tour security wise, Like 692 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 5: he's got measurements on drain pipes that lead to the area. 693 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 5: What if they come through the drain pipe. I was 694 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 5: in meetings with them and they like, the officials are 695 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 5: looking at each other, there's a drain pipe there, Like, 696 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 5: we don't need where he got the map, We have 697 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 5: no clue. He was obsessed with security and Jagger's personal safety. 698 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 5: That's what it was really all about, okay, and the 699 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 5: safety of the concert. 700 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 2: Safety was the paramount concern for British bands. The United 701 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 2: States was always a hazardous gauntlet run. Violence was simply 702 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: part of the cultural psyche as American as apple Pie. 703 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 2: Weeks before the tour was due to kick off, Alabama's 704 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,959 Speaker 2: segregationist governor turned presidential candidate George Wallace was gunned down 705 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 2: in a suburban shopping center outside Washington, d C. I'm 706 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 2: hard pressed to think of a sentence that better sums 707 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 2: up America. In nineteen seventy two, for Charlie Watts, the 708 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 2: country had a fearsome nage. 709 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 9: America scares the shit out on me, in the sense 710 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 9: that if anyone wants to do anything. 711 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,439 Speaker 7: Then they're going to try. 712 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 9: You know, they either go to prison, or they get up, 713 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 9: or they get off it. 714 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 2: Keith Richards hope that the advanced planning would prevent deadly disasters, 715 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 2: but there's only so much that could be done. 716 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,959 Speaker 6: I found things like that only happened when there isn't 717 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 6: adequate secures. That's that's been taking to fill that extra 718 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 6: three years, you know, until they can get away with 719 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 6: that kind of you know, is a Kasi example new secures. 720 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 7: Then they went crazy. 721 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 2: These weren't abstract threats. The Hell's Angels felt that the 722 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 2: Stones had left them high and dry following the murder 723 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 2: at Altamont, thereby sowing the good name of their motorcycle 724 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 2: club and the pages of every American news outlet. Now 725 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 2: they wanted revenge. Rumors spread throughout the underground that the 726 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 2: Hell's Angels planned to kidnap Mick Jagger and hold them 727 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 2: for ransom or worse. Some said there was a bounty 728 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 2: on his head. 729 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 5: It swirled around the entire tour. Is somebody going to 730 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 5: try to assassinate Mick Jagger? Not some random We're living 731 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,760 Speaker 5: in a time of random assassinations everywhere. The Angels blamed 732 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 5: Jagger for taking the hit for what they had done 733 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 5: for five hundred dollars worth of beer. 734 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: Every precaution was taken private planes, limos, and higher stages 735 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 2: to prevent audience invasions. The bands were assigned a pair 736 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 2: of linebacker sized bodyguards, lovingly known as stand the Man 737 00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 2: More and Big Leroy Leonard. They followed McK and keith everywhere, 738 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 2: including some say into their hotel suites. At night. The 739 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 2: band's entire floor would be blocked off to outsiders, but 740 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 2: several members of the Honorage were prepared to take the 741 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: law into their own hands. Rolling Stones's Record's chief Marshall 742 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 2: Chess carried loaded thirty eight caliber handgun. But, as Bill 743 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 2: Wyman says, when you're playing in front of ten thousand people, 744 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 2: there's only so much you can do to defend yourself. 745 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 8: I mean, you're always open to being shot on stage. 746 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 8: You're always you think about You're always aware of that. 747 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 6: I mean, you're so well home you don't think about it. 748 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 8: But anybody with any sense of Toad's going to think 749 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 8: there's a possibility at some time or other, some cranks especially. 750 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 8: I mean we've been shut out the airgun before in stage, 751 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 8: and Charlie got a palette in his cheeks. 752 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 2: Ian Stewart, an original Rolling Stone Turns Roady by nineteen 753 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 2: seventy two, echoed the sentiment. 754 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 6: The way I think about it is if anybody was 755 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 6: going to do do him with a rifle from the 756 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 6: back of the hall or something like that, if anybody 757 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 6: really set out to bloody kill him, they kill it. 758 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 2: For Mick, every night on stage was two hours in 759 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 2: the crosshairs. The show would go on, though the cost 760 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 2: couldn't have been any higher. In truth, he didn't have 761 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 2: a choice. It was the only way he could keep 762 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 2: on being Mick Jagger. 763 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 11: I mean, either I stopped he or I didn't, you know. 764 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 7: I mean, it was as simple as that. 765 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 11: And a few people would like to say, don call 766 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 11: the friends of mine. 767 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 7: I said, you really got to be came from you 768 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 7: can't go I said, wait more, or this what I do? 769 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 7: So I'm going to do it in either I do 770 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 7: it or don't do it. If I don't do it, 771 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 7: what am I. 772 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 2: Going to do? 773 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 3: You know? 774 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 7: There was a few places that it did get scary, 775 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 7: and there was a lot of guns, comfy scows and 776 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 7: stuff like that. 777 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 11: That I wasn't scared, you know, I was scared shitless. 778 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 2: A hit on Mick was that the Stone's only problem 779 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 2: as they crossed the Flaming Continent. Their equipment van is 780 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 2: bombed in Montreal, they're jailed in Rhode Island, they're opening 781 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,479 Speaker 2: night in Vancouver's derailed by rioters, and they nearly burned 782 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 2: down the Playboy Mansion in Chicago. Plus there's trouble in 783 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 2: the band's inner circle. Keith's descending the heroin addiction threatens 784 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 2: his bond with Mick and his life, drug dealing scammers 785 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 2: invade their ranks, and the Stones cope with the fact 786 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 2: that they're nearly broke. But it's too late to stop now, 787 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 2: so hop on, there's a show to do. 788 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: Stone's touring Party is written and hosted by Jordan runtaff 789 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: the co executive produced by Noel Brown and Jordan Runtok, 790 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: Edited and sound designed by Noel Brown and Michael Older June. 791 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: Original music composed and performed by Michael Older June and 792 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: Noel Brown. The additional instruments performed by Chris Suarez, Nick 793 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: John's Cooper and Josh Thay. Vintage Rolling Stones audio courtesy 794 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 1: of the Robert Greenfield Archive at the Charles Deering McCormick 795 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: Library of Special collect in Northwestern University Libraries. 796 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 5: Stone's Touring Party. 797 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 2: Is a production of iHeartRadio. 798 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 799 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your favorite shows.