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Speaker 3: Six touchdown and now your hosts, Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris,

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Speaker 3: John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 1: studios at the Star in Frisco as we lead into

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Speaker 1: week eight of the NFL season. Cowboys in the Rams

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Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday at noon Central Time. Alongside Isaiah Standback,

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Speaker 1: We've got John Machoda, Nick Harris, Chris Beam in the back.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kyle Yeomans. Gentlemen, how we doing feeling good?

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Speaker 4: Kyle?

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Speaker 5: How are you feeling?

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Speaker 2: Is this a protein shake you got in?

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Speaker 5: That is not Kyle?

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Speaker 6: This is my team over there.

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Speaker 5: That is a mystery.

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Speaker 6: That is a protein vanilla, peanut butter or something.

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Speaker 2: Two straight days of getting in that that morning workout.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you feel me like?

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what we said on the on the

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Speaker 5: pre show.

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Speaker 2: What you just say said, I can tell you what

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Speaker 2: Beamer said.

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Speaker 5: That was on the pre show.

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Speaker 2: You can't say that on air, Nope, can't do it.

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Speaker 4: But well, why don't you just say it. Let's find

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Speaker 4: out if you can.

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Speaker 7: Say, nobody doesn't find out.

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Speaker 4: We are in a trust.

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Speaker 2: This is a space.

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Speaker 6: This is where I am.

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Speaker 1: This is a safe space, cowboys. Not where I intended

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Speaker 1: for that conversation. But uh, but yeah, look at you

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Speaker 1: guys getting in the morning workouts.

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Speaker 5: You got your workout in today.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I woke up like at the right time to

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Speaker 1: go get a workout in What happened?

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Speaker 2: Bubble guts?

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Speaker 5: You didn't.

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Speaker 6: You didn't have bupper time.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know.

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Speaker 5: I didn't have any factor and you got a factor

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Speaker 5: in ject docito.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, you got a factor.

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Speaker 2: I'll get it in the night. I'll get a worse.

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Speaker 5: Last time you got in the wait room.

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Speaker 4: Sir, A long time five years?

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Speaker 5: Wow? Wow, you just just wake up like this.

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Speaker 4: Just wake up the facique, wake up and check Twitter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that's why.

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Speaker 6: My thumb man, he said, the grind is my work exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I respect that.

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Speaker 5: Do you ever scroll with your index finger?

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Speaker 4: Mmm?

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Speaker 8: You probably scrolled them more than I'm trying to think

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Speaker 8: is there every time where you scroll with your index

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Speaker 8: finger is always your thumb. So your thumb just super caliber.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, ready to roll?

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Speaker 2: I think maybe once or twice.

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Speaker 1: Like if I'm just like next level done with the

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Speaker 1: day and I'm just sitting here and I've got like

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Speaker 1: my head propped, I'll scroll with my index finger like this.

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Speaker 5: So you're index just about it.

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Speaker 1: No, that's very one everyone percentage though, yeah, everyone once

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Speaker 1: in a while.

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Speaker 5: Do you think this generation could beat the old generation

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Speaker 5: and the more?

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Speaker 2: That's such a wild question.

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Speaker 7: I don't think the phone gives them any sort of

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Speaker 7: gives us any sort of advantage.

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Speaker 5: I don't think so that.

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Speaker 6: I really do, Like you gotta think, like old generations.

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Speaker 5: This is happening. Is this happening?

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Speaker 2: Is this happening?

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Speaker 1: John, Let's go, I got that thing down. It's over

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Speaker 1: all right, News and notes. Let's talk Cowboys. That was dumb,

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Speaker 1: all right?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Nick Harris?

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Speaker 6: Get that on alright?

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Speaker 7: So on on Tuesday, the Cowboys filled all of their

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Speaker 7: opening practice squad spots. On on Monday, they had released

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Speaker 7: offensive tackle Alex Taylor Prolo linebacker Michel Jones, who was

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Speaker 7: was a twenty seven ten fifth round pick. Linebacker Buddy Johnson.

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Speaker 7: really cool that Buddy Johnson is back home. He went

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Speaker 7: to Dallas Kimball High School, so go Knights, and yeah.

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Speaker 7: So that's that's basically all that happened yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Is that there about Leonard Fournett.

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Speaker 6: Not yet, you know, I think it's I think it's

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Speaker 4: Maybe I didn't know if I missed those, but going sorry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, none of those big names.

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Speaker 1: Does that tell you anything just based off of yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Should should there be a message sent by who they signed,

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Speaker 6: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 7: I think it's just really just to fill those spots

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Speaker 7: Maybe the addition of Eric Saubert kind of gives them

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Speaker 7: Buddy Johnson obviously just being added for linebacker depth. Malik

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Speaker 7: maybe this gives them a little bit more flexibility with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just for the most part, nothing really, it's mostly

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Speaker 4: Happen over the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we'll see.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure they'll play with him as far as you know,

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Speaker 7: let's get a couple of elevations and see how he performs,

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Speaker 7: and if it's worthy at that point then for sure.

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Speaker 7: I think at this point when it comes to linebacker depth,

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Speaker 7: they're probably just waiting on a spot to open on

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Speaker 7: I don't want to wish that, obviously, but that would

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Speaker 2: All right, there you go. Any other news notes along.

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Speaker 7: Honestly, that's about it. Tuesdays obviously are really dead around here.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, unless you want to go read My Nick

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Speaker 5: Why wouldn't you want to read your Nick at Night?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, which exactly wrote about how Dak needed to be

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Speaker 7: a little bit more fearless. You know, we kind of

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Speaker 7: fearlessness from from Dak Prescott, And it was probably the

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Speaker 7: fearless dec a little bit more already dac Is Isaiah

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Speaker 5: If Micah Parsons is a lion, what animal is deck.

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Speaker 4: He is a well you think about that. I was

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Speaker 4: when you were saying it, is that, while that sounds good,

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Speaker 4: do you know if he does do that more, is

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Speaker 4: he going outside of what he's being asked to by

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Speaker 2: Was thinking the same thing.

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Speaker 1: What's the difference between fearless and or reckless?

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Speaker 2: Not that Dak is reckless by.

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Speaker 1: Any chance, but whenever you're you're playing from a fearless

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Speaker 8: I think Josh Allen's fearless. Okay, I think he's reckless. Joe,

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Speaker 8: Who would you classify as reckless in the NFL at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the first one that came to mind.

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Speaker 1: And just because you're a reckless quarterback doesn't mean you're

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Speaker 1: a bad quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I would say two.

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Speaker 1: Prior to twenty twenty, I would say maybe reckless, But

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Speaker 1: he's since kind of turned that around, and he's put

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Speaker 1: in a great system with.

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Speaker 2: Some weapons around him, and he's able to have some success.

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Speaker 4: Oh, there's definitely times. I mean, I don't I challenge

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Speaker 4: five or six years than Jameis Winston.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a great one. Yeah, I think that's a

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Speaker 1: phenomenal one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But think of reckless, I think of someone that's probably

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Speaker 4: got some pretty good arm talent and likes to try

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Speaker 4: throws that you know, your coaches are like, we know

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Speaker 4: you can make that, but right now it's not the

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Speaker 4: time for you to throw that. And they're just like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: I got this. I'll fit in that window.

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Speaker 1: See, And that's kind of that's that's the point though,

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Speaker 8: I don't know if I've seen reckless stack we saw,

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Speaker 6: But it's a lot of.

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Speaker 7: Those same same things, utilizing his legs and getting outside

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Speaker 6: So I'd like to see a lot of that. I

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Speaker 7: You got animal for Dak, I'm gonna go with a

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Speaker 6: Honestly, I've had a couple throughout my life.

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Speaker 7: They're they're they're they're mild mannered until you piss them off,

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Speaker 7: It takes you got to really like nag at them.

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Speaker 7: They're like understanding animals, so okay, and they're also like

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Speaker 6: I'm feeling like a box Oh, I haven't.

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Speaker 4: Even though I wasn't say no off of that, I

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Speaker 4: year by year that he's been the Cowboys quarterback. I've

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Speaker 6: I mentioned that Nick at night last night.

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Speaker 7: I was like, when you're the Dallas Cowboys quarterback, obviously

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 6: You can see it with certain questions.

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Speaker 7: I get asked whether it's turnovers and now here early

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Speaker 6: Now he's starting to get to that manner about it,

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Speaker 4: Do think it's absolutely and I can't blame him.

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Speaker 6: I can't blame him one bit.

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Speaker 7: But at the at the end of the day, be fearless,

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Speaker 4: There was a part of me that laughs at the

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Speaker 4: and you're just like, I'm just not going to go

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Speaker 7: I'm just not gonna call my mom today because I

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you. I'll tell you what, man. So I

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Speaker 4: I'm like, well, it's cowboys, byway, They're not talking about cowboys,

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Speaker 4: sure enough. It was like off of what Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 4: Just like, man, they're just filling segments on the shows,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, throwing it in there, throwing it in there. We

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Speaker 1: Dak has been fearless at times, but his receivers, especially

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Speaker 1: Gallop along with the tight ends, need to be fearless

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Speaker 4: At times this season.

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Speaker 1: I thought the Chargers game was a great indication, and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the fearless word. I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I don't think that this receiver's group has that edge

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I don't feel that with this group. I think this

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm not saying that you can't turn that

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Speaker 8: But I don't think that you willfully have that in

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Speaker 5: No. No receiver, Jalen Brooks.

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Speaker 8: I just think he has that in him. I don't

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Speaker 8: just saying that that's not their style to play. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: h do you think they do?

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 8: I think that this game today is more scheme than

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Speaker 8: The big receivers were it, right. I was a big receivers.

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Speaker 8: So it's like lately they haven't necessarily been down there,

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Speaker 1: He had a dog go Yeah, yeah that if if

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Speaker 1: there was one player that I could add, I mean

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of them, but from like former Cowboys teams,

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Speaker 1: you know how those questions get asked where it's like,

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Speaker 1: if you could take one former cowboy place them on

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three roster, which one.

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Speaker 5: Would it do? This is good?

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Speaker 4: Any generation?

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Speaker 1: Any generation? Oh wow, I think I would. I mean

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Speaker 1: Dez would be high on the list. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he'd be number one. I would maybe go try

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Speaker 1: and grab like a Larry Allen.

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Speaker 2: That would be fun, but.

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Speaker 6: Uh Isiah stand back would be really good.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking of like the legendary defensive tackles. That is

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Speaker 4: that this organization's ad Who's that? I'm thinking of the

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Speaker 4: legendary defensive tackles Like I don't know if you get

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Speaker 4: in these arguments people in the act, like, well, those

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Speaker 4: the guys today. But if you believe that they could,

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Speaker 4: just going off of what you said actually about defensive tackles,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it wouldn't hurt dead like Bob Lily in

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Speaker 4: the middle of this defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I met him for the first time weeks ago.

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Speaker 5: We did it. It was great together.

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Speaker 4: He's still keeping himself in pretty much shape.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we did an event together.

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Speaker 4: He's cool, good, nice.

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Speaker 2: But we might carry that question over.

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Speaker 1: We've got National Storylines coming up next with John Machoda.

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Speaker 1: But I want to hear Nick's answer. I want to

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Speaker 1: see if John, did you settle in on Bob.

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Speaker 2: Lily or you want to think about it?

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Speaker 2: Of the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Give us a text one seven two nine zero three

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Speaker 1: two nine eight which former cowboy can be from any generation?

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Speaker 1: Would you add to this twenty twenty three roster.

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Speaker 5: We've got some really good.

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Speaker 2: Questions or really good answers.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear from you guys first, and plus,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we may answer that Dak Press Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott animal question here in a little bit. I think

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Speaker 1: I got a good one that I'm starting to formulate

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Speaker 1: here and then we'll get national storylines.

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Speaker 2: John, did you change your answer from Bob Lilly?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm gonna stick with that. I think that

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Speaker 4: this team just has a lot of talent a lot

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Speaker 4: of different areas. And to Isaiah's point from yesterday, I

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Speaker 4: just think if you had that game changing defensive tackle

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Speaker 4: that you can put next to Osa and just put

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Speaker 4: in between DeMarcus Lawrence and Michael Parsons, sounds pretty attractive

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Speaker 4: to me. But this teams have a lot of great

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Speaker 4: This franchise had a lot of great offensive lineman that

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Speaker 4: would be interesting too.

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Speaker 7: So what'd you think, Nick, this is a regarding the

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Speaker 7: former Cowboy. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to Emmitt Smith. I

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Speaker 7: mean that would be Yeah, that'd be That feels it

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Speaker 7: feels like the easy answer. Give me the rushing champ

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Speaker 7: and let Tony Poler go back to being an awesome

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Speaker 7: complimentary back.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we can see that.

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Speaker 5: What do you think of Isaiah? I like your Larry Allen.

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Speaker 5: I like that. I'm not gonna take that one though.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Mary and Barber.

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Speaker 6: You know, I was between Emmett and Marion Barber, but

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Speaker 6: I just.

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Speaker 5: Two even kill for me. I need you need some

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Speaker 5: attitude on his team. Man Marion would be fun. He'd

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Speaker 5: be a red.

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Speaker 2: Zone oh man, short yardage.

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Speaker 5: He would be legit. Somebody was some nastiness to him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he certainly had that.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We got some really good ones.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: That win at the linebacker spot, Sean Lee, Orlando McLain,

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Speaker 1: some guys like that. Rolando McLain's kind of an interesting one,

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Speaker 1: that win and Shann Lee. I could see those two significantly.

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Speaker 1: Ted from Houston agrees with Nick, says Emitt Smith. Charles

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Speaker 1: Hayley from Ed says, Charles Haylee, that would.

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Speaker 5: Be a fun one.

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Speaker 2: Another Sean Lee, one of the best.

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Speaker 6: You said, what boy would it be?

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Speaker 1: Charles Jason Witten. That one's from Manny in Connecticut.

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Speaker 5: That would be interesting.

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Speaker 2: Drew Pearson could play in any era.

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Speaker 1: But he says des Bryant would be his answer. So

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Speaker 1: Dez and and Drew would be up there.

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Speaker 2: Kind of interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Mike, no, uh no, Troy's of course. I

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Speaker 1: think it'd be problematic to say a quarterback here. You

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Speaker 1: probably could, but somebody will text it in possibly ten minutes.

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Speaker 5: Who knows.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's a good answer. I mean it is.

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Speaker 2: Sorry.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think Dak Practicecott would tell you that. Well,

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Speaker 4: if you give the chance to add Troy Aikman or

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Speaker 4: Roger Staubach, Like, I get where you're coming from. You're

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Speaker 4: talking about Hall of Fame quarterbacks. So I mean there's

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's a wrong answer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Orton, Dione Pridime Sanders from the two to eight

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Speaker 1: uh Dan from Philly says, Tony dor.

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Speaker 2: Set that solves a lot of problems, is what he said.

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Speaker 2: Like that a couple of good ones. I like it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll keep throwing them out here while we've got

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Speaker 1: a but John, let's take us through some national storylines.

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Speaker 2: What you got on the docket this week.

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Speaker 4: I actually just wanted to start with kind of a

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Speaker 4: look back at the weekend and get your guys take

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Speaker 4: on something, because I just feel like from week to

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Speaker 4: week there's been a lot of surprises in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I just go back to what the feeling

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Speaker 4: was like after that forty nine Ers game and just

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Speaker 4: thinking like, Wow, there's just some teams that at that time, Niners, Dolphins,

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Speaker 4: They're just like they're just on another level, and then

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Speaker 4: you've seen them kind of come back down to earth.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give you three scenarios and tell me

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Speaker 4: which one surprises you, guys the most. Okay, one is

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Speaker 4: Lions getting blown out thirty eight to six. Two is

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Speaker 4: the Niners coming off at forty two to ten win

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Speaker 4: over the Cowboys and losing in back to back weekends

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Speaker 4: since to the Cleveland Browns and the Minnesota Vikings. And

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Speaker 4: then last is Isaiah's Dolphins managing only two hundred and

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Speaker 4: forty four offensive yards in that loss to Philly. Now,

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Speaker 4: this is a team that never had less than three

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Speaker 4: eighty nine and had over a hundred in a game

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Speaker 4: and they were held at two forty four. So out

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Speaker 4: of those three, what is the most surprising to you?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Niners losing back to back games,

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Speaker 7: especially against those teams that you had mentioned in primetime.

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Speaker 7: On the latter one, it just feels like the Niners

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Speaker 7: they really show up when the game is amplified in

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Speaker 7: that way. So, yeah, them losing the way they did

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Speaker 7: in both of those games, the Vikings just controlling that game.

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Speaker 7: It felt like from the start, I'm going to take

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Speaker 7: the Niners losing back to back games, that's more surprising

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Speaker 7: than me.

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Speaker 2: I'm right there with you. I think Miami, you knew

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Speaker 2: just how good.

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Speaker 4: They were, that they were going to see at.

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Speaker 1: Least a little bit of a drop off in Philly's

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Speaker 1: defense is legit. I mean, they were really good still,

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Speaker 1: and we knew that going into the year. The first

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Speaker 1: one was Lion six, same thing, same sort of deal. Like,

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Speaker 1: I think the fact the way that they went down

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Speaker 1: was shocking, but not as shocking as back to back

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Speaker 1: losses for the Niners, especially against I mean, was it PJ.

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Speaker 2: Walker who started for the.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns and then he had Jerome Ford who's the

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Speaker 1: running back then and then the one win Minnesota Vikings,

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Speaker 1: like you said, dominated that football game, Jefferson, Yeah, without

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Speaker 1: their best wide receiver in football right now. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think I would take the forty nine ers as the

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Speaker 1: most shocking scenario.

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Speaker 8: I would say, yeah, that's the most shocking, But I

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Speaker 8: would think a close second for me would be Miami. Okay,

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Speaker 8: I think I think we're I think where Philadelphia is strong.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna put it like this, I feel like we're

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Speaker 8: Philadelphia is weak currently that they're obviously trying to sure up.

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Speaker 8: I think Miami is strong, and I think Miami missed

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Speaker 8: dropped like two touchdowns, which is not common. So I

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Speaker 8: would say that's probably a close second for me. Just

667
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Speaker 8: because their offense is so diverse.

668
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Speaker 4: Does that make you think more of the Eagles or

669
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Speaker 4: less of the Dolphins.

670
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Speaker 8: I just think the Dolphins had an off day. Just

671
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Speaker 8: being honest with you, I think they got caught slip in.

672
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 8: Tyreek missed some opportunities. Wildell got hurt in the middle

673
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Speaker 8: of the game. I think one as explosive. I mean,

674
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Speaker 8: I don't expect anybody to block the defensive front of Philadelphia,

675
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 8: so that's always.

676
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Speaker 5: Gonna cause problems. But they just missed on some opportunities.

677
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Speaker 8: And that's like one team that I would not want

678
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Speaker 8: to play after they had to let down like that,

679
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 8: because they're probably gonna have six hundred yards next week.

680
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's very true.

681
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Speaker 4: I'm going with the Niners. My next one, though, is

682
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 4: I thought that and correct me if I'm wrong, But

683
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Speaker 4: I thought that The best SoundBite of the last few

684
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 4: days has been the one after the Washington game by

685
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Speaker 4: Jonathan Allen and so I obviously won't include all the

686
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 4: F bombs, but I'm just telling you this is not

687
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 4: a reporter going up to a guy at a locker

688
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 4: one on one spouts off. There's a guy who, putting

689
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: his sunglasses on, walked right in front of the cameras

690
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 4: and just started going off about how basically trying to

691
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 4: think how the best way, I'm fing tired of this S.

692
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Speaker 4: I'm fing tired of this bowls. It's been seven fing

693
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Speaker 4: years of the same s. I'm tired of this s.

694
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Speaker 5: And like the dog translator.

695
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Speaker 4: And so for a guy like that, seven seasons.

696
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: Impressive that through that I would have messed up.

697
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: Slip so impressive.

698
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Speaker 4: So he's now been there for seven seasons, and during

699
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: those seven seasons, they've never had a winning season. They've

700
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 4: been eight eight to one, but they've never had a

701
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 4: winning season. They made the playoffs only one time, and

702
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 4: that was on a seven one season in twenty twenty.

703
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Speaker 4: And so I'm wondering when I see that, you know,

704
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 4: a lot of problems there you would think got answered

705
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 4: by a change in ownership, But it makes me think

706
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Speaker 4: that it's going to probably still take a while for

707
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Speaker 4: Washington turn that around, and so my only thing I

708
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 4: was gonna ask you, guys, is there in any way

709
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 4: that that could potentially be a good thing where somebody

710
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 4: speaks up of a veteran guy that a lot of

711
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 4: the guys in the locker room probably look up to,

712
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 4: and that that can serve as some type of a

713
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Speaker 4: turning point for them. Or is that just overrated.

714
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Speaker 1: I'm going to defer to the guy who's been in

715
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: an NFL locker room on this one.

716
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 8: I honestly think it's overrated. I think you're seeing somebody

717
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 8: who's beyond fresh traded. Where's he at in this contract?

718
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 4: That's a good point.

719
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're talking about somebody who's beyond frustrated or tired

720
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 8: of losing. You got some of the most competitive people

721
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 8: on Earth playing this game, and somebody at his position,

722
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 8: he's getting his body beat up every game to lose games.

723
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 8: And you know, you're tired of waking up sore. If

724
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 8: you you're waking up hurd and you're working, waking up injured,

725
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 8: and you're going to work and you're doing all these things,

726
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 8: it's like, okay, it's it's worth it. If I'm getting wins,

727
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 8: it's not worth it. If I'm taking Al's like, nobody

728
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 8: wants to wake up, get beat up, get your body hurt,

729
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 8: lose time for my family, lose time from everything else,

730
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 8: to lose games like yeah, you're getting paid, but like

731
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 8: I don't want to lose, Like I played this game

732
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 8: because I love to win.

733
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Speaker 5: So that's where he's at. And he was tired. He's

734
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 5: tired of it. You know where's he at.

735
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Speaker 7: He's under contractor twenty twenty five, so three more seasons

736
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Speaker 7: including this one.

737
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Speaker 5: So I mean it might be. And then you look

738
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Speaker 5: at a perspective.

739
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: Leverage on that annual average, give me a moment, and

740
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 4: it's got to be.

741
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 5: But I mean.

742
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 6: Eighteen million.

743
00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 5: Sorry.

744
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 8: Sometimes stuff is strategic too. You know you talk about

745
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 8: how he approached the media. Yeah, you know, you got

746
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 8: new ownership. They're trying to change the image of this team.

747
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 8: You know, you're frustrated. You know, you really don't want

748
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 8: to be there. You trade deadlines coming up. Sometimes you

749
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 8: do things to try to put yourself out there on

750
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 8: the edge and hopefully you fall off and end up

751
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 8: somewhere else.

752
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point.

753
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: Two things off of your answer to the question. The

754
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: first one is that's the way you answered that threw

755
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: me back to twenty twenty when this team had their

756
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: struggles and this team had their the injury to Dak

757
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: in Week five, and then they kind of went downhill

758
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: and then the Andy Dalton and Ben Denucci. Yeah there

759
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: you go, Yeah exactly, Yeah, just what your shirt says.

760
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: But the fact that that's every year, just different franchises

761
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: across the board in the NFL, there's going to be frustration.

762
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: But seven straight years, that's a lot. That is a

763
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: long time to have that frustration build up. I think

764
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: the way that it would affect the locker room in

765
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: a positive or a negative manner, it depends on who

766
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: else is in that locker room, right, because if you

767
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: have the right guys that you feel like you could

768
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: maybe build for the future, then that does service may

769
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: be a wake up call. Hey, this is one of

770
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: our leaders, is one of the higher paid players, higher

771
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: highest performing players on our team speaking out and having

772
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: that frustration. If you don't have the right guys, you

773
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: react in the different manner. You react in a way

774
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: where you go downhill for the next couple of weeks,

775
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: for the next month or so, and you're really in

776
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: a world of frustrating.

777
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Speaker 8: You've always you've also since that, you've also heard how

778
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 8: often his name and uh pain and pain and uh chase.

779
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 8: You know, all those guys name been thrown into pot

780
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 8: now right, And there's been word coming out of that

781
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 8: camp that nobody's that nobody's safe.

782
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 5: Pretty much, you know.

783
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 8: So, I mean things aren't always just emotionally, you know, reacted.

784
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 8: It's not just emotional reaction a lot of times. Sometimes

785
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 8: some stuff is strategic. So, yeah, we'll see.

786
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 6: What I think that was calculated a little bit, I

787
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 6: think so.

788
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 5: I think a part of emotion, part part calculated.

789
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 8: I mean, if you're tired of being in a situation,

790
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 8: you're locked into something. He's had issues with other teammates

791
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 8: on in that same position group, Like there's been a

792
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 8: lot of frustrations over there, and you know, you have

793
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 8: a solid group and it's like, we have a dope

794
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 8: d line.

795
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 5: Why the heck are we losing games?

796
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 10: Yea?

797
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 5: You know, you brought in a OC that's.

798
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 8: Of a whole new world who's amazing, and we still

799
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 8: can't figure things out offensively. We have new ownership and

800
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 8: we still you know, obviously it's gonna take time, but

801
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 8: I don't have time to be figuring this thing out.

802
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 8: I don't want to ride this boat until y'all figure

803
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 8: it out. Like I want to win ball games, you know,

804
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 8: I want to make money and I want to win,

805
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 8: two things I want to do. I'm making one make money,

806
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 8: but I'm losing a heck of a lot of games,

807
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 8: and my time is ticking. You know, there's a lot

808
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 8: There are a ton of guys that actually care about

809
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 8: walking away with a ring in this league, and I'm

810
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 8: pretty sure he's one of them.

811
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you're looking at it.

812
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 7: He's twenty eight, and he's got he's under contract until

813
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 7: he's thirty, and you know, if he wants to win,

814
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 7: that's it probably doesn't look great after thirty, especially on

815
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 7: the defensive line.

816
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 6: So I understand the frustration there.

817
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 7: The original question was if the outburst can be beneficial

818
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 7: at times? I would say yes, it could be. I

819
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 7: don't necessarily know this particular situation. It could be because

820
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 7: you know, you have a guy in the room like

821
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 7: that who twenty eight years old. He's looked at as

822
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 7: a veteran presence, especially with that young defensive line group

823
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 7: that they have, and you know he means business, you know,

824
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 7: and you know that he's he's not he's not here

825
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 7: for the games or the fing games, as he would

826
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 7: probably say, So I would say, yeah, it can be,

827
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 7: but I think if it's if it's approached from the

828
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 7: right perspective this week from Jonathan Allen, you know, if

829
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 7: he's taking it more as like a kick in the butt,

830
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 7: or if he's taken it more as like, Okay, no

831
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 7: one's gonna do anything, so I'm just gonna be over

832
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 7: here on my own and do my own thing. You know,

833
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 7: we've seen it both go, but go both ways at

834
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 7: times in the NFL, So I guess whichever way he

835
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 7: takes it from here, it kind of determines if it

836
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 7: could be beneficial or not.

837
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Speaker 2: How quickly do you think I could get this episode

838
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: taken down?

839
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 6: The title wise?

840
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 5: If I just say win the f in games.

841
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: If I gave the title and description is that it would.

842
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 4: It wouldn't wouldn't fly. Yeah, I got one more, but

843
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 4: how much time I got I can make it quick.

844
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: Let's make it quick, Okay, real quick.

845
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 4: So I'm watching baseball game last night and I'm looking

846
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 4: at Twitter, and I see this tweet from Jim Mersay

847
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 4: where he just goes on about how not only does

848
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 4: he give an injury update about his quarterback who just

849
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 4: had surgery, but he also adds at the end he

850
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 4: goes the NFL admits and understands that they did not

851
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 4: make the correct calls at the end of their game

852
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 4: against the Browns. I believe their need to institute instant

853
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 4: replay of for all calls, including penalties, in the last

854
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 4: two minutes of all games. That's not what I'm here

855
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 4: to talk about. What I'm here to talk about is

856
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 4: it surprises me going to owners meetings that there's two

857
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 4: clear people that you'll always be able to get at

858
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 4: those and that's Jim Mersay and Jerry Jones. Okay, And

859
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 4: it surprises me a little bit that Jerry hasn't leaned

860
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 4: into the tweeting just because you.

861
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Speaker 6: See something like this.

862
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 4: I'm kind of trying, you know. He works to be

863
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 4: on the cutting edge of a lot of things. Jerry

864
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 4: Jones's last tweet, so he had a real Jerry Jones account.

865
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 4: This is back when like twitter first started, is twenty eleven. Okay,

866
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 4: this is the last one, and he basically it was

867
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: about man I had the quote here somewhere he had

868
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: said it said the Tyron Smith Press camferance is live now,

869
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 4: so that's from that's from right if they drafted Tirren

870
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 4: in twenty eleven, so that count is still up. But

871
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 4: it does surprise me seeing how like Jim or say,

872
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 4: and this isn't the first time he's done that. So

873
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 4: does it surprise you guys at all that you never

874
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 4: get any tweets or anything like like that from Jerry

875
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 4: Jones who does two radio interviews a week, talks at

876
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 4: your games, obviously tries to keep up with the latest trends.

877
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a good question.

878
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 6: It's a fantastic point.

879
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean, just based off of the personality, I would

880
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: think he would like the tweet I was.

881
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: I think you would like to get involved in that.

882
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: The fact that he hasn't just I would attribute it

883
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: more to maybe the big busy schedule in the fact

884
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: that he is doing traditional media, TV, radio things of

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Speaker 4: But and he had the flip phone flip phone for

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Speaker 4: a long time. Yeah, he did have Thelma.

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Speaker 5: For a little while.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you used to be able to like text your

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Speaker 7: tweets on a flip phone.

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Speaker 2: I remember that. Yeah, those days.

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Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. My first Twitter user name was Rangers

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Speaker 1: fan zero two three?

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Speaker 6: What was you just texted in on your Yeah, texted.

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Speaker 1: In on my little Samsung phone or whatever. It was

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Speaker 1: like my little sliderphone that I had back.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, before the iPhone. That's what it was. Are you surprised?

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Speaker 4: No tweeting, none of the Graham nothing from Jerry, No

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Speaker 5: Tiktoks.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the largest media platform in sports. If he wants

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Speaker 8: everybody paying attention to.

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Speaker 2: That, Yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: Keep looking at the brand absolutely, Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate that, John. That was good. We got

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Speaker 1: Plus, we'll take a quick look at the Cowboys defense

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into.

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys, Isaiah standback, John Matchoda, Kris, I'm Kyle.

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Speaker 2: You know it's glad you're with us. Uh I got

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Speaker 2: a couple of them here. Tony Romo got the first Romo.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, that's what it says here. He said he

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Speaker 2: could read a defense.

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Speaker 5: That's what he said.

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Speaker 4: If only Roger and TROI could do that, could.

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Speaker 2: Do that, it would be nice what they have.

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Speaker 4: Then need to imagine what they would Yeah, right.

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Speaker 5: That would have been nice.

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Speaker 2: Uh but yeah, this is for the question earlier in

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 1: If you're just now joining us that which cowboy in

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Speaker 1: the future or in a past generation would you want

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Speaker 1: to add to this Cowboys roster in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Lots of Darren Woodson's.

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Speaker 5: I really like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, lots lots of Woodies. I mean he's my all

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Speaker 2: time favorite cowboy.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Travis Frederick would be great at the center spot, is

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Speaker 1: what it said here.

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Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you like that one?

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Speaker 6: I do you like this one even better?

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Speaker 2: Got a multiple actually three Nate Newton's.

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Speaker 5: Big Dog basic one.

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Speaker 1: Randy White Jason from Philadelphia said that one. Uh more,

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Speaker 1: Drew Pearson's there's a Tarrell Owens in here as well.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Dion from Peter and Syracuse Eric Williams right tackle spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be an interesting one.

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Speaker 5: Really good one.

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Speaker 4: What if you get to pick between only these two?

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Speaker 4: It's Dion or Michael Irvin right now, Yeah, well yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean obviously yeah, but in their prime, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: in this team, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think yeah prime.

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Speaker 4: He just wonder sometimes maybe I'm overrating some of the

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Speaker 4: stuff behind the scenes about people talking about the stuff

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Speaker 4: that Michael Irvin would do in practice and kind of

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Speaker 4: set the tone for his things like that. I did

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Speaker 4: a vocal angry, you know, leader type.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was a different generation man.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, a lot of guys. Yeah, it's completely completely different generation.

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Speaker 8: I mean, is different. Yeah, I'll leave it at that,

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Speaker 8: a little bit, a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: All right, before we go, Isaiah.

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Speaker 1: Number one concern from the from the Rams offense yep, uh,

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Speaker 1: just offense in general. Yeah, I mean there who's their

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00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: number one threat on offense right now?

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Speaker 8: Putting the Coops their number one threat on offense. I mean,

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Speaker 8: but they have at well, they got Puking the cool,

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Speaker 8: they got Cooper Cup. Their offense is you know, we

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Speaker 8: I think we talked about this last week or the

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Speaker 8: week before. I think we were talking about the five

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Speaker 8: top offenses in the league, like Dallas plays all of them.

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Speaker 8: Now it's the seven out of the top eight offenses

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Speaker 8: in the league. Dallas plays all of them, and we've

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Speaker 8: only played one of those so far, being San I

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Speaker 8: actually played two of them in San Francisco and the Chargers.

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Speaker 8: These guys move the ball. They moved the freaking ball

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Speaker 8: a lot. And what they do what we've been talking

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Speaker 8: about in terms of pre snap motions, shifts, condensed sets,

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Speaker 8: they do all of it. They have a freaking genius

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Speaker 8: offensive coordinator and head coach in McVeigh.

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Speaker 5: He just is that dude, He just is.

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Speaker 4: He don't think they can be neutralized with the past

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Speaker 4: rush with Matthew Stafford though, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, I mean everybody could be neutralized by a solid.

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Speaker 4: But pecifically because there's not a lot of mobility there.

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Speaker 5: They just do it.

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Speaker 4: Really the type of quarterback that you would want to.

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Speaker 8: Sure, Yeah, I do believe that you will dominate this

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Speaker 8: game in that regard. However, They're going to get their

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Speaker 8: opportunities and the reason why is because they can stretch

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Speaker 8: the field and they're going to give Cooper Cup a

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Speaker 8: lot of times, a lot of opportunities to run option

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Speaker 8: routes underneath. So it's really turned into that well being

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Speaker 8: their deep their deep guy, puking the coup, being their

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Speaker 8: big play guy, and Cooper Cup being their possession guy.

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Speaker 8: That's really what it's what it's panned out to be,

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Speaker 8: and whether you're running cover three doesn't really work well

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Speaker 8: against these guys because of their condensed sets and their.

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Speaker 5: Switch releases, delayed releases off the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 8: Cooper Cup is a genius and in terms of that,

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Speaker 8: probably the only person that would compare to him in

1042
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Speaker 8: that regard is Wes Welker. So he does that very well,

1043
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Speaker 8: understands defenses, understands his concept and so he's not in

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Speaker 8: a rush, right.

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Speaker 4: I just think it's the least mobile quarterback they face

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Speaker 4: so far.

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Speaker 5: I hear you.

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Speaker 8: I mean, but they faced some pretty good defenses so far,

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Speaker 8: and they lit up Philly in terms of being on

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Speaker 8: to move the ball. So yeah, I agree, But again

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Speaker 8: you're dealing with the officer coordinator who does a really

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Speaker 8: good job. They will bring the receivers in and chip

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Speaker 8: on d ends. They'll bring their tight ends in and

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Speaker 8: chip on d N So they're not going to just

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Speaker 8: let you just run free and have your way. And

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Speaker 8: again you have to find out who is going to

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Speaker 8: stick Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup can be a game wrecker,

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Speaker 8: and he hasn't been the guy because obviously he was

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Speaker 8: injured and things of that nature. But like Cooper Cup

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Speaker 8: can be a complete game rerecord because I'm not sure

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Speaker 8: on this roster, who do you put on him. If

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Speaker 8: you play Cover three, he understands that he will torch

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Speaker 8: you underneath because you'll be isolating him with a linebacker

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Speaker 8: or a nickel guy, and he can go either way.

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Speaker 8: If you play cover one, you got to decipher who

1066
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Speaker 8: you're gonna stick because of how they come off the ball, right,

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Speaker 8: They switch the releases all the time.

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Speaker 5: They run motions.

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Speaker 8: They look like Canadian football where you're coming in and

1070
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Speaker 8: running across the field and then you got Cooper Cup underneath.

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Speaker 8: And if you sink on Cooper Cup, then you're leaving

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Speaker 8: pooking the cool behind them. And if you don't, if

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Speaker 8: that safety tries to cheat on pooking the cool, then

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Speaker 8: they get over the top that whell they got options.

1075
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Speaker 8: They got options. So yes, you can negate a lot

1076
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Speaker 8: of that by getting a pass rush. But they're not

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Speaker 8: going to just let you line up. They're gonna hit you,

1078
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Speaker 8: they're gonna hip you. They're gonna keep your eyes on

1079
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Speaker 8: a swivel. In terms of defensive ends, so it should

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Speaker 8: be a heck of a challenge I'm not too concern of. Obviously,

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Speaker 8: we'll talk about talk about the other side of the

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Speaker 8: ball tomorrow, but this, the offense, is where you have

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Speaker 8: to stop these guys. Have you stopped their offense, You're

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Speaker 8: in a really good shape.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think there's there's ways that you can take advantage

1087
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Speaker 1: of those matchups. But this secondary right now, without Trayvon

1088
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Speaker 1: Diggs is where I have the biggest concern.

1089
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Speaker 5: I really do.

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Speaker 1: I think not that they're I'm gonna predict them to

1091
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Speaker 1: lose or whatever. I still think the Cowboys should win

1092
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Speaker 1: this game, not to get to ahead of ourselves, but

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Speaker 1: I think if there was a way for you to

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Speaker 1: get caught in a missmatchups because of those two guys,

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Speaker 1: because they're not maybe not the best receivers you've faced

1096
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Speaker 1: this year, but they might be one of the more

1097
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Speaker 1: challenging matchups of the receivers that you face this.

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Speaker 4: Year outside of Dak Prescott. This I'm very confident. This

1099
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Speaker 4: is the quarterback I know the most just because of

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Speaker 4: his long time and you try it, and I'm just saying,

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Speaker 4: if you get a pass rush on him, it's not

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00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 4: just about the sacks. It's about He's got a little

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00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 4: bit of that in him too, with the Jameis Winston,

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00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 4: I mean seven touchdown quer six interceptions, love the big arm. Honestly,

1105
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 4: I see some comps with the guy that they just

1106
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 4: placed with her Herbert, you know, like there are some

1107
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 4: comps there where you just see all that stuff and

1108
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 4: just like my God, like you can do whatever you want,

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00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 4: but there is also some of that. If you do

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00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 4: get the pass rush on him, you can't get him

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00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 4: into mistakes and he's not gonna if you get hands

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00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 4: on him. It's not like he's going to pull out

1113
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 4: of that and then extend a play type thing. But

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00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 4: I mean, if you give him time, he obviously can

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00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 4: carve you up. Look at that last series in the

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00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 4: Super Bowl where it was literally just him and Cooper

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00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 4: Cup throwing no lookers down the middle of the field

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Speaker 4: in the biggest moment of his career. So I mean

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00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 4: he can he can obviously make every throw. But I

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Speaker 4: think the pass rush is just so huge in this game,

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00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 4: and that's the.

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Speaker 8: Thing, Like I don't think Cooper Cup is now in

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00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 8: a position where he doesn't have to be that guy

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00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 8: to go down the field. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 8: Like now because of poking the koula and how he's ascended.

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00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 8: Now they could send him down the field on the

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00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 8: deep ends and the deep comebass on the deep overs.

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00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 8: And now Cooper Cup gets to be in at wes

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00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 8: Wilkoer where he's just like coming off the five off

1130
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 8: the yard, off the line of scrimmage, five yards, give

1131
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 8: me the ball right now, boom go. You know his

1132
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 8: first game bag he had a bunch of drops, you know,

1133
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 8: just plays that he just normally doesn't have. But you know,

1134
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 8: please believe he's gonna have over ten targets. I believe

1135
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 8: he'll have over ten targets.

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Speaker 1: Doug from Florida asked, will we double Cooper Cup or

1137
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: pooka Sunday and rely on the pass rush and play

1138
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: man primarily, don't play man, don't play it.

1139
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 8: Don't play you're gonna get you'll get to toasted on

1140
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 8: toasted a plaza championship plaza.

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00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 5: Don't do it. But you also can't play three. So

1142
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 5: m yeah.

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00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 7: It's it's when I look at this offense, obviously they

1144
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 7: have it's not speed, it's the finesse that they have exactly.

1145
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 6: It's all between the hashes.

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00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 5: Was looking for earlier, thank you sir.

1147
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 7: And it's all between the hashes. It's gonna be it's

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00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 7: gonna be quick movement or.

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00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 6: Between the numbers.

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00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 7: Excuse me, between the numbers, because you look at guys

1151
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 7: like Cooper Cup and Pook and the Coola, they're very similar.

1152
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 7: These are both guys that get open in our hurry

1153
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 7: and they can they can rack up that rack and

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00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 7: I think there's an opportunity obviously we've we've mentioned it

1155
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 7: already about the offensive line. I think they can get

1156
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 7: home quite a bit on Matthew Stafford. You look at

1157
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 7: their offensive line, I think the guy who's performed probably

1158
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 7: the best outside of Kevin Dotson is Steve Avula, who

1159
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 7: draft nerds know out of CCU.

1160
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 6: He's he's playing at left guards.

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00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 7: So their interior has played well at times, but they're

1162
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 7: they're tackles. That's where they've really struggled. So, hey, Michael Parsons,

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00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 7: this is a good opportunity. Go ahead and get back

1164
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 7: on the sack. Count DeMarcus Lawrence as well. I think

1165
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 7: if those guys get home, I think there's a really

1166
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 7: good opportunity here. But I think the biggest thing for

1167
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 7: me when I look at this offense is the fact

1168
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 7: that Karen Williams is on the IR and they're still

1169
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 7: having to do this running back by committee with Royce

1170
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 7: Freeman and Darryl Henderson Junior, and even Zach Evans has

1171
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,479
Speaker 7: been sprinkled in at times, which shout out to text

1172
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 7: high school football if you'll remember Zach Evans. But I

1173
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 7: don't feel confident in their running game whatsoever. And if

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Speaker 7: they can't establish a running game, then I don't I

1175
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 7: don't fear what they'll do as as a whole offensively.

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Speaker 7: I think, sure, Cooper Cup and Pookin cour we're gonna

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Speaker 7: get theirs and Cooper Cupp may end up over one

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Speaker 7: hundred yards.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's just the fact of the nature.

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Speaker 7: But if you can keep the running game limited that

1181
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 7: I think they've become a lot less multiple and you

1182
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 7: have a lot more opportunities to get home on Matthew

1183
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 7: Stafford and for this defense to capitalize on momentum.

1184
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Speaker 4: So they sacked him five times last year when they

1185
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 4: played them. Mike I had two, Doran's Armstrong had one,

1186
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 4: Osa had one, and Jordan Lewis had the other.

1187
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 7: Nice maybe that was like a Dorn's Armstrong come out game.

1188
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 7: It felt like that was a really good Dorms.

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Speaker 2: Did he have a block defensive touchdown? Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 2: it was. It was a block punt, That's what it was. Man.

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00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 2: Hopefully we can get that again.

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Speaker 5: I would like that.

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Speaker 2: Let's just read, let's just run it back right, Just

1194
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 2: do exactly what you did.

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00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 5: Last year Miles Garrett did last week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do that too.

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Speaker 1: Did against the Raiders a couple of weeks to get

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Speaker 1: to ninety pound and jump over people. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: when we come back tomorrow, we will have a QB vision.

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Speaker 1: We'll be able to preview this Cowboys offense versus the

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Speaker 1: Rams defense. How can Dak Prescott and company string together

1202
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: a second solid performance against an LA based franchise. And

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that plenty as the week goes on,

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Speaker 1: but that doesn't for us. Here on Talking Cowboys today

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Speaker 1: for Chris Beam in the back, for Isaiah standback, John Minhoda,

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Speaker 1: Nick Harris, and Kyle Yeoman saying so.

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Speaker 2: Long, We'll see you tomorrow with more Talking Cowboys.

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