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Speaker 1: What is up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast. We have got the Spring breakout,

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Speaker 1: which you know, me and James love, one of our

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Speaker 1: favorite things that happens in Major League Baseball every single year.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that, all the amazing prospects that

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Speaker 1: we saw on the Mets side of things. They smoke.

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Speaker 1: The Nationals absolutely love to see it. And then we

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Speaker 1: are gonna just talk about some news at the end.

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Speaker 1: So if you don't want to hear prospect stuff, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to like skip ahead because we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: talking about Clay Homes Jeff McNeil towards the end. But

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Speaker 1: right now, we know you guys you love the prospect talk.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what we're gonna go through. But first make

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Speaker 1: download and subscribe. So James spring breakout too. Before we

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Speaker 1: start talking about any players, what did you think about

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Speaker 1: the game, the event? What were your thoughts, Like you said.

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Speaker 2: This though we love the event, like last year when

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Speaker 2: this was announced and you've been making YouTube videos for it,

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Speaker 2: doing a great job, Like it's just it's such an

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Speaker 2: exciting concept. People like to gather a lot of the

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Speaker 2: team's best prospects together and face the team that's like

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Speaker 2: the specifically for the metsa Nationals, the team that like

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Speaker 2: these guys could be rivals with for a huge part

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Speaker 2: of their careers. And it's amazing that these are like

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Speaker 2: mostly standalone games. They don't enter intersect with the team

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Speaker 2: playing other games. But for this Mets break up games specifically,

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Speaker 2: it's such a tease that we didn't have stack gas

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Speaker 2: data for it, Like I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 2: the joy of this game, at least it was for

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Speaker 2: the last year and its inception was the fact that

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Speaker 2: there were a lot of players who were either in

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Speaker 2: high air or double A where we don't get stack

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Speaker 2: aass measures during the season that you can now get

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Speaker 2: data on these guys. You could see things you didn't

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Speaker 2: quite see before, Like we got to experience Brandon sprote

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Speaker 2: just from ice scattering and reading reports that kind of

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Speaker 2: and predicted. And while this game was still great to watch.

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Speaker 2: It was cool to see Jodah Tong throwing BB's and

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Speaker 2: Ryan Clifford hitting four and fifty foot pis missiles. It

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Speaker 2: does feel like we do it damp into the tiny

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Speaker 2: a fucking loser and such a nerd. I get to

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Speaker 2: but like the extra shit is fun because you can

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Speaker 2: really love this event. I hope MMB keeps doing it,

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Speaker 2: but they should. They should get that gass across the

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Speaker 1: If MB's listening, I got a free tip for you.

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Speaker 1: Here's how you make the spring breakout game a true

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Speaker 1: breakout one. You have it at neutral stadiums. So in

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Speaker 1: You have National broadcast on MLB Network Friday night. Saturday

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Speaker 1: Friday night. You have National broadcasts, it's broadcast on MLB

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Speaker 1: Network all day. You have people who actually know what

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Speaker 1: an amazing job. The Nationals had no clue what was

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Speaker 1: think having it at a neutral site with real cameras,

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Speaker 1: where we start this conversation. Everybody who was watching Jonah Toong,

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Speaker 1: The fastball is electric and the stuff looked insane. Again,

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Speaker 2: No, that's the best thing about him too, and it's

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Speaker 2: Definitely, that one secondary pitch is gyro slider, which is

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Speaker 3: But when he had and that's that's why the walks come.

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Speaker 3: But just that fastball and that tight.

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Speaker 1: What I man, I mean, listen, if we were to

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Speaker 1: something went catastrophically right or catastrophically wrong. Those are the

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Speaker 3: The best case Snarer of the worst case Narra. If

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Speaker 1: Either the next Jacob de Gram or like, holy shit,

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Speaker 1: like what happened to this team? But then is something

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Speaker 1: highlight when the futures get from the breakout game last year,

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Speaker 1: I was like, you should have been playing in that game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. On the offensive side of things, we saw Boston Barrow,

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Speaker 1: Boston Barrow, beautiful opposite field home running. He was such

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Speaker 1: And Alex Klemy the Nationals broadcast was dog in Boston

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Speaker 1: Barrow for this home run, which I thought was.

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Speaker 3: So I really got out there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were like they're like, oh, wind, ay did

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Speaker 1: a guy like Boston Barrow. You comped it to Jeff McNeil.

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Speaker 1: To me, I thought that was money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen a couple of other people say that.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I think I saw a guy MJD

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Speaker 2: think maybe perspectives Baseball America said that, but like Barrow

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Speaker 3: But I think he's much better defensive player, least this

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Speaker 3: Hu, he's an ox out there.

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Speaker 2: He got the hair flowing out like he's you kind

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Speaker 3: Barrow too, a tong too, Like you're literally a kid

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Speaker 3: when that happens. Like you get on the you get on.

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Speaker 2: The fitness program, you start to eat some real meals,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, big shout out to uh Joe Demeyo two for

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Speaker 1: him after seconds after Jim Duquet was talking about how

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna point out Rodriguez well because it did

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Speaker 3: He looked really good. So he took charge. He took

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Speaker 2: Feel like has like the the shortstop energy, the short

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Speaker 1: Serano played high school baseball. Rian Clifford.

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Speaker 2: They were teammates, Yes they did no Carolina, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: I had one more thing.

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Speaker 2: Oh the picture that came in directly after Jaan Tong

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Speaker 2: at some point this year as just like a guy's

437
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Speaker 2: going to get some soft contact, probably pitching in long relief,

438
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Speaker 2: because again, like this is it's kind of something that

439
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Speaker 2: we feel like good organizations do you kind of spot

440
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Speaker 2: guys like this and you're like you could kind of

441
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Speaker 2: make something out of nothing, and like, oh, here's twenty

442
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Speaker 2: seven year olds gonna get the forty man roster and

443
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Speaker 2: give us thirty innings this year of four. Right, Like

444
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Speaker 2: that's that's kind of a cool thing. And the one

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Speaker 2: thing I also wish we could see more of. I

446
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Speaker 2: really want to see Trace Neither get some more chances

447
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Speaker 2: in the infield. He was a mid round draft pick

448
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Speaker 2: for US the year that we gave a huge slot bonus.

449
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Speaker 2: He decommitted from Tennessee, which again is a very rare thing,

450
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Speaker 2: and he's been lauded for his defensive ability, but he

451
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Speaker 2: went in there at second base where adultly went in

452
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Speaker 2: at short time. I don't know much about Itealy. I'm

453
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Speaker 2: picture he is an international signing, and I think that

454
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Speaker 2: we're going to start to see, hopefully the fruits of

455
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Speaker 2: this of Arnuka compounded Dominican Republic payoff with some of

456
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Speaker 2: these young international prospects around this year as well. So

457
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Speaker 2: this is it's very fun to get some exposure to

458
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Speaker 2: these guys, very cool to see them on television, Very

459
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Speaker 2: cool to see them all interact with each other and

460
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Speaker 2: have fun with each other. It's I love this event

461
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Speaker 2: so much. I really hope they continue doing it.

462
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Speaker 1: Also shout Ryan Lambert made an appearance of the game.

463
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Speaker 1: Was a little bit rocky, up and down a little bit.

464
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Speaker 1: The slider wasn't as sharp. I was talking to his Asian.

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Speaker 1: He was like, but the fastball, I mean, the fastball

466
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Speaker 1: is so legit good, Like he just absolutely blows it

467
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Speaker 1: by people. Shout out to everybody in the s and

468
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Speaker 1: y Mets Twitter comments for giving us a shout out

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Speaker 1: because Joda Mayo told the story about the eggs, which

470
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Speaker 1: is completely normal. We're not worried or anything about him.

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Speaker 1: But shout with everybody in the comments saying Mets stuff. First,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Shout out to George at love these

473
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Speaker 1: Mets captain l troll season legend.

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Speaker 2: And also I grabbed that video to put it in

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Speaker 2: their replies just people could see that. We tweeted that

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Speaker 2: August second twenty twenty four, and didn't even see this

477
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Speaker 2: at the time, but Ryan Lambert's mother, wonderful woman. She

478
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Speaker 2: commented on that I had no idea about the thirty eggs.

479
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Speaker 3: Ryan exclamation point.

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Speaker 1: That's so amazing.

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Speaker 2: That's something like my mom would say if I was

482
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Speaker 2: on a podcast, I said something like that. So just

483
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Speaker 2: cool to see all these young dudes. Cool to see

484
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Speaker 2: that how deep this Mets system is becoming. I think

485
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Speaker 2: we're at a spot where we could basically we've seen

486
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Speaker 2: it now over the last two years, is truly becoming

487
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Speaker 2: one of the deeper systems. I think a good baseball.

488
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Speaker 2: We're still we still want some more top in talent.

489
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Speaker 2: I think we still both want one more, like one

490
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Speaker 2: more hit there to kind of come out of there

491
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Speaker 2: and become like a dude, like a dude's dude. But

492
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Speaker 2: seeing the pitching, seeing the low on guys, like seeing

493
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Speaker 2: the young guys come up, it is a fun time

494
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Speaker 2: for the Mets.

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Speaker 1: Do geviny take on Santucci because we actually got to

496
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Speaker 1: saw him, see him pitch. Finally, the fastball looks solid.

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Speaker 1: I think that's kind of his thing too.

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Speaker 3: Fastball looked good.

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Speaker 2: Change the book, Okay, it just felt kind of a

500
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Speaker 2: little wild, little uncomfortable. He had that first play when

501
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Speaker 2: he came in the game where it was a swinging

502
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Speaker 2: bunt and it was kind of no men's land between

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Speaker 2: like between first second and him, and then no one

504
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Speaker 2: really jumped for it, and then he kind of started

505
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Speaker 2: running for it, which probably is a thing that had

506
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Speaker 2: a lot of not second basement playing second base.

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Speaker 3: I guess that's probably short stops over there and not

508
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Speaker 3: used to plays like that. But he he, and he

509
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Speaker 3: tried to grab it, just threw his glove.

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Speaker 2: Up in the air.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But overall, Spring breakout awesome. I wish we had

513
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Speaker 1: more numbers, but really impressed with what we saw from

514
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Speaker 1: the Mets prospects.

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Speaker 3: Yes, very.

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Speaker 1: All right now to wrap up the episode and just

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Speaker 1: to talk about some stuff going on in the Mets world.

518
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Speaker 1: On the injury side, we saw Jeff McNeil's gonna miss

519
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Speaker 1: the first three to four weeks of the season with

520
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Speaker 1: an oblique injury. Saw a lot of different discourse on

521
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Speaker 1: Mets Twitter and online about the reasoning for Jeff getting injured.

522
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Speaker 1: People again weirdly rooting against him. Get them off the

523
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Speaker 1: it's the most bizarre behavior. Ever, someone was saying that

524
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Speaker 1: it's hard to root for this guy when he plays

525
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Speaker 1: golf all offseason and then gets hurt. You guys know,

526
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Speaker 1: like ninety year old men play golf. Like that's he's

527
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Speaker 1: not getting hurt from playing golf.

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Speaker 3: Also, he did.

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Speaker 2: Jess McNeil is definitely the only baseball player that spends

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Speaker 2: his offseason playing golf.

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Speaker 1: Pitchers don't golf. Ever, nobody golfs.

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Speaker 2: They definitely don't golf on their off day. There's no

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Speaker 2: chance no one else does that besides Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that was a brain dead, stupid idiot take

535
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Speaker 1: for sure. But on the other side of things, this

536
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Speaker 1: now opens up another spot on the roster. Brett Bay

537
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Speaker 1: has been playing a lot more second base. We know

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Speaker 1: he's mister March. He's having a great spring training. Could

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Speaker 1: it be Luis on Helakunya? Where do we think we

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Speaker 1: go with second base? I mean, it would have been

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Speaker 1: nice to have Jose Glacias right now.

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Speaker 3: That was really my first thought too, But I think

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Speaker 3: it's fine whatever.

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Speaker 2: Like I'd rather probably rather Brett Baty get the shot

545
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Speaker 2: to let the Jose Glaciers thing happen again. I think

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Speaker 2: Brett Baty will get the shot. I think if it

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Speaker 2: was fully up to me, I think will still be

548
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Speaker 2: a little bit more of an open competition. But luisn

549
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Speaker 2: hell is like so bad this spring again at the plate,

550
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Speaker 2: he looks like jumpy, a little over aggressive. But between

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Speaker 2: the two of them, and I had a fight with

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Speaker 2: some people on Twitter about this, my logic was that

553
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Speaker 2: Brett Betty is having another good spring hitting. Brett Baty

554
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Speaker 2: still never been able to hit consistently in the major leagues.

555
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Speaker 2: We kind of have to it's pisser, get off the

556
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Speaker 2: pot time for Rett Baty, so I'm happy to just

557
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Speaker 2: give him that first chance again. It's probably strange that

558
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Speaker 2: Baty keep setting his opportunities in April and no other

559
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Speaker 2: time the rest of the year. But between him and Acunya,

560
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Speaker 2: the most certain skill the most certain thing that we

561
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Speaker 2: can count on between the two of them, and part

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Speaker 2: of their skill set is Acune's defense. We know for

563
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Speaker 2: a fact that Luis Nolakunya will be a plus defender

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Speaker 2: at second base. I don't think Ret Baty will be

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Speaker 2: plus fender at second base. I think he'll be a

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Speaker 2: passable defender there. I think he'll be maybe able to

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Speaker 2: do it. I'm sure there will be some bad plays.

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Speaker 2: I also don't know if that's the best that's the

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Speaker 2: best way to kind of break someone into try another

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Speaker 2: shot at the major leagues. It's like really stressed about

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Speaker 2: on defense. So I don't know what's going to happen.

572
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Speaker 2: But I do think on opening day Brett Baty will

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Speaker 2: be the second baseman. I'm just not exactly sure.

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Speaker 3: How that will work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely going to be. It sucks that for

576
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Speaker 1: a guy who's kind of fighting for his m B

577
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Speaker 1: life here it's like, hey, learn a new position, play

578
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Speaker 1: it at the major league level, and also you need

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Speaker 1: to hit well. But because I will say, like we

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Speaker 1: know that Batty has the ability to at least be

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Speaker 1: a patient hitter, where Akunya can get very very aggressive

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Speaker 1: at times. Hit baby eighth, hit him ninth in the order,

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Speaker 1: put him at the absolute bottom, and let him just

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Speaker 1: kind of relax a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I also wonderful with a Kunya because we saw this

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Speaker 2: last year in the minor leagues and he came to

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Speaker 2: the major leagues and he went ballistic, and now we're

588
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Speaker 2: spirit training gay he's not hitting well. I don't know,

589
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Speaker 2: maybe if it's like a light's not bright enough thing

590
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Speaker 2: for him. Like I heard I've heard like talking about

591
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Speaker 2: this when he was coming up that he was like

592
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Speaker 2: because Francisco and Door didn't have great numbers in Triple A.

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Speaker 2: Right before he got the call up, they were like,

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Speaker 2: why what was going on Triple A? He was like,

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Speaker 2: I knew I was ready and I just weren't calling

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Speaker 2: me up. So I was like a little bit bored.

597
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Speaker 2: So I'm like, I don't know, like this, I can't

598
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Speaker 2: really quantify that. We also heard that crazy thing last

599
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Speaker 2: year apparently the lights at Syracuse aren't very good and

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Speaker 2: that that was effecting the way some players are hitting.

601
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Speaker 2: But it's funny, like how much like the Seesaw happens,

602
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Speaker 2: like with the rhetoric Cremetz fans, where it's like heading

603
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Speaker 2: out the off seasons like Acunya has to have that shot,

604
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Speaker 2: and now he's hitting two hundred through like two weeks

605
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Speaker 2: of the spring, and it's like not ready yet, send

606
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Speaker 2: it back down because he wasn't good spring Triple A.

607
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Speaker 2: They're either it's just this is gonna be bad. I

608
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Speaker 2: don't know exactly what. There's no perfect way for the

609
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Speaker 2: Mets to be able to play this there really isn't Like,

610
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Speaker 2: maybe there's the tuning.

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Speaker 3: These guys would be.

612
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Speaker 2: Good, but I feel like they're gonna give Donavan Walton

613
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Speaker 2: the roster spots is because they can option either of

614
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Speaker 2: these two guys and they won't.

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Speaker 3: But I don't. I don't know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Again, If Baty can't hit enough, him playing bad deep

617
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Speaker 2: the second base probably isn't that big of a deal.

618
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Speaker 2: But at the time that our pitching rotation is is

619
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Speaker 2: struggling as well, it's also not struggling but not that healthy.

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Speaker 2: It's also kind of a double edge shorts. I'm like,

621
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Speaker 2: do I want to give up defense for a hitter?

622
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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: Which of those? Does better defense help a bad pitching

624
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Speaker 3: staff for this, better offense help a bad pitching staff,

625
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Speaker 3: Like It's kind of hard to figure that one too.

626
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Speaker 2: Hmm.

627
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Speaker 1: That is that's a fun question. I don't know what

628
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Speaker 1: is better, what would be better? You think I'm leaning,

629
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Speaker 1: and the boring part of me leans towards the or

630
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Speaker 1: not the offensive defense, just like, let's make sure we

631
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Speaker 1: get as many outs as we possibly can, let's make

632
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Speaker 1: the game shorter, but also the offense would be fun

633
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Speaker 1: if your eight hitter, can you know, have some pop

634
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Speaker 1: that's kind of annoying for other teams to play against, And.

635
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Speaker 2: Just comes back to the fact that again between the

636
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Speaker 2: two players, the most certain thing that either of them

637
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Speaker 2: can do at the major league level that's plus is

638
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Speaker 2: Luis and hell, when you're playing defense, yes, maybe Baby

639
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Speaker 2: can hit there. It is funny that we've been banging

640
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Speaker 2: the baby trump all spring training and now it's like, oh,

641
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Speaker 2: now he actually has to start.

642
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Speaker 3: We're like, I don't know, maybe we'll see what happen.

643
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Speaker 2: Is actually all that's gonna happen, But like again, I

644
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Speaker 2: wanted to get his chance, and he's heading well enough

645
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Speaker 2: that he probably does deserve it, But it's spring training.

646
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Speaker 3: Results numbers like we talked about a lot of times,

647
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Speaker 3: don't really matter.

648
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Speaker 2: It's things like you you want to see strike out ready,

649
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 2: he wants your walk right, you can probably see swinging

650
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 2: strike right, and then you're almost getting to a spot

651
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: where can start seeing ground ball, flyball poll rate, and

652
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Speaker 2: that's important for Baby and he's fine all of them

653
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Speaker 2: right now, but there's just I don't know it gets

654
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Speaker 2: to that spot and doesn't happen, and I don't I

655
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Speaker 2: don't know when or why or how it will.

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Speaker 1: There's also another interesting wrench in this, being that brand

657
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Speaker 1: new or might not be ready to play outfield opening day.

658
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Speaker 1: He might be dhing early on, which god damn it. Shit,

659
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Speaker 1: now we're gonna be playing just Winker left field or

660
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Speaker 1: Stirling Martell left field up.

661
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Speaker 2: So I'm saying no, that entire side of the field is

662
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Speaker 2: a huge problem, but you know what I mean. And

663
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Speaker 2: now it also gets to a spot where like this

664
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Speaker 2: team was so strong a defense are different second bit okay, right,

665
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Speaker 2: but oh yeah, because it's so Tho's gonna play there now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess he's gonna be the maybe he could.

667
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Speaker 3: I don't know. It's gonna be weird. But now we're

668
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Speaker 3: getting to spot. Towards the end of the last year, I.

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Speaker 2: Just assumed, like Jesse Winker rightfield, that's where it was

670
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Speaker 2: used to hide them last year because then was a

671
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Speaker 2: left fielder because he has a new alarm. But last

672
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Speaker 2: year's defense was so good at the end of the year,

673
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Speaker 2: and I think it really helped a pitching staff play up,

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Speaker 2: especially for a guy like David Peterson.

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Speaker 1: I guess it could be Tyrone Taylor technically in left

676
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Speaker 1: field too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it.

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Speaker 2: Could they want to go like plus plus defense. I

679
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Speaker 2: wonder if that like health.

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Speaker 1: Maybe like when Clay Holmes is on the mound for

681
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Speaker 1: Opening Day, you can put a guy like Jesse Winker

682
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Speaker 1: out there because he's a ground ball pitcher. But then

683
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Speaker 1: when you have a guy like David Peterson who's a

684
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Speaker 1: little bit more fly ball susceptible, you could go.

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Speaker 2: With he has the sinker that I don't think he

686
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Speaker 2: has big fly ball, right I think he sticks around

687
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Speaker 2: forty percent ground ball.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, these average that I guess at that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's it's a strange walker right now

690
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 2: for this Mets team, but around like the absolute stars,

691
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Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, we're gonna have to really figure

692
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Speaker 2: some bullshit out, some more ballshit that we're going to

693
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Speaker 2: have to figure out.

694
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Speaker 3: Something that we keep talking about this podcast.

695
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Speaker 2: I think that we're giving the most conversation too of

696
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Speaker 2: a lot of other things right now is.

697
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Speaker 1: The only people talking about this is.

698
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Speaker 2: The increasing strangeness around code. I sang, guy, that's just

699
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 2: simply not going away at all anytime soon. He had

700
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Speaker 2: a not not so good start on Friday. Again, results

701
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Speaker 2: we don't care about but the stuff didn't look very

702
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: good either, and that that that's the part that concerned

703
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Speaker 2: me as I was refreshing Baseball savonn and Matters Correguard

704
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: watching Saint John's move on the biggest tournament. But he

705
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Speaker 2: had a quote after the game that just like sended

706
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Speaker 2: a chill down my spine where he goes, I have

707
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Speaker 2: a growing understanding of where my body is and what

708
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Speaker 2: I can and cannot do at this point. Within the

709
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Speaker 2: next two weeks, I hope to fix those hit opening day.

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Speaker 2: That's not a long time, dude's long period of the time.

711
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Speaker 2: So then now you're in a situation maybe he has

712
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Speaker 2: to get skipped the first time through the rotation. He

713
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Speaker 2: has to figure out how to make up those endings.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's a I don't really envy carlsmandoz at

715
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: David Stern to trying to tight walk tight to tight

716
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Speaker 2: rope at the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Yeah, it's uh, it's so weird, man, Everything

718
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: is so weird right now with how this team's uh

719
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Speaker 1: moving around a bit. You even look at the schedule.

720
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Speaker 1: The schedule is so bizarre early too, So maybe that

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Speaker 1: does help with code. I being pushed back a little bit, don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you get on the soapbox for

723
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Speaker 1: like two minutes and talk about the schedule here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe right in the dawn of Opening Day

725
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Speaker 1: I'll do my real schedule blow up. But right now,

726
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Speaker 1: as it stands, the Mets have the first Sunday of

727
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Speaker 1: the baseball season off, and schedule work i've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: I told my dad that. He flipped out. He was screaming.

729
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: He was like, what do you mean to have it off?

730
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Speaker 3: How could they have it off? People are gonna be

731
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Speaker 3: up and arms.

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Speaker 2: Some people know this yet because we have the Thursday

733
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Speaker 2: Opening Day and oftentimes they'll leave the day after Opening

734
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Speaker 2: Day as like a rain day. Just the case for

735
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Speaker 2: Opening Day US. They're playing it at Dome, so the

736
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Speaker 2: don't need that. In my at Houston min at May Park,

737
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Speaker 2: and they'll We're the National Game on Friday and Apple TV,

738
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Speaker 2: and I believe We're a National game on Saturday at Fox. Well, yeah,

739
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Speaker 2: and we're off Sunday. Then we go to Miami for

740
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Speaker 2: a series that starts on Monday evening. It's so freaking weird, dude.

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Speaker 2: I hate the schedule.

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Speaker 1: It's funny too, that we get the off day to

743
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Speaker 1: fly to Miami when Houston and Miami is like not

744
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Speaker 1: a long flight at all, and we've had way longer

745
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Speaker 1: flights where it's like, yeah, Sunday night game. Guess what,

746
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Speaker 1: you're playing a day game the next day. You're like, what,

747
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Speaker 1: who is making these schedules. I wish they got to

748
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Speaker 1: bring back the couple. They were the best. Nobody did

749
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Speaker 1: better than them.

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Speaker 2: No, but then again, we do have some off days

751
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Speaker 2: because we have that Sunday off and then Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

752
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Speaker 2: and we have the Thursday off before the Friday opening

753
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Speaker 2: day and the opening series against the Blue Jays, So

754
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Speaker 2: then we kind of can get through with a much

755
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: shorter rotation through that very good for the bullpenntil we

756
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Speaker 2: get to there. But then and then we have the

757
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Speaker 2: following Thursday off again after the six game home stand

758
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 2: against the Blue Jays and Marlin, so we can get

759
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Speaker 2: a little trippy with the schedule. But then we're going

760
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Speaker 2: to Sacramento on April eleventh, big flight out there. Then

761
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Speaker 2: we're out there for three to three against the A's.

762
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Speaker 2: Will be calling them now they at the Athletics, the Athletics. Yeah,

763
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: then the A's, then the Twins, and then straight home

764
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Speaker 2: for four game series with the Cardinals, and then home

765
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Speaker 2: no off day for a three game series with the Phillies.

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Speaker 2: So once we get to April eleventh, we need a

767
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Speaker 2: five or six man rotation. So I guess technically cod

768
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Speaker 2: that probably does have two extra weeks in season to

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Speaker 2: kind of get himself fully right. I guess, I guess

770
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Speaker 2: we have to bank we have to be to add

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Speaker 2: that in.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a shot right now. I think Coda

773
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Speaker 1: makes the season maybe April ninth against the Marlins, that

774
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Speaker 1: home game on Wednesday. I think that's gonna be his

775
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Speaker 1: first start of the year.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's like, wow, so Clay Holmes, because because also Claylmes

777
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Speaker 2: a now, the opening day started to make the spring

778
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Speaker 2: training even weirder. People are like, wow, so Holmes is

779
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Speaker 2: day one. That means we're gonna have Code for day too.

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Speaker 2: So Code that lines up to pitch the home opener, Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna happen, guys. I don't think

782
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Speaker 2: the version of Code I sanging go we saw on

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Speaker 2: Friday is anywhere close to being ready for opening Day.

784
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Speaker 2: There were some fastballs that were coming in the lower nineties.

785
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Speaker 2: There didn't seem to be that much comfortability with the

786
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Speaker 2: off speed stuff. He had a cool thing that I

787
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Speaker 2: don't know if this is a new rule of this

788
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Speaker 2: spring training or last spring training, whatever it happened, where

789
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Speaker 2: I think it's if there's a difficult inning happening for

790
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Speaker 2: a pitcher, they're allowed to leave the game and it

791
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: come back in for the clean inning of the next inning.

792
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: So we saw that on display with Code. We also

793
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Speaker 2: that one of the Nationals pitchers in the breakout game,

794
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Speaker 2: but just there wasn't the fastball philosophy was way down.

795
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Speaker 2: He didn't He didn't really look very comfortable throwing any

796
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Speaker 2: of the off speeds stuff. Throwing sixty percent fastballs of

797
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: a spring training game tells me a guy, it doesn't

798
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Speaker 2: feel the most comfortable because it's time to work out.

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Speaker 3: This is the time to try stuff. We don't really

800
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Speaker 3: care about results at all. But it's it's.

801
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Speaker 2: Weird right now for Code I saying it, it doesn't

802
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Speaker 2: give me a nice, a nice happy feeling in my stomach.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I will say to put a nice

804
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Speaker 1: bow on this is that Code I. If we remember

805
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, the beginning of the year was super weird.

806
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Speaker 1: It took him two months to get comfortable. There's the

807
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Speaker 1: whole weird thing with the weather and playing indoors, and

808
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Speaker 1: we know, like that's not necessarily the most comfortable for

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Speaker 1: Code I. He's gonna have to get over that, like

810
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Speaker 1: need him to get over.

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Speaker 3: Well, he was very over that summer. He pitched fine.

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Speaker 1: In the summer, he was fine. But I'm saying, like

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Speaker 1: the early year stuff might just be an issue for

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Speaker 1: Code I. Maybe always, like we know Francisco Lindor typically

815
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Speaker 1: starts the year cold, maybe Code I just takes a

816
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Speaker 1: little bit longer to get ready as a pitcher. I

817
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: still always remember that start in Oakland where the Mets

818
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: were up like ten, he couldn't make it through five

819
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Speaker 1: because he was walking everybody. And then the second half

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Speaker 1: of the year he was one of the best pitchers.

821
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Speaker 1: So maybe that's just a code I think it could

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Speaker 1: be to maybe calm some people's nerves here.

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Speaker 2: I think there's also something to the fact that it's

824
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Speaker 2: like us, like us as fans, we put a lot

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Speaker 2: of emphasis on opening Day, a lot of pressure on

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Speaker 2: the concept of opening Day, because we like baseball. It's starting.

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Speaker 3: We're here ready to go.

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Speaker 2: Like Clay Hoolmes is started Opening Day, people like, how

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Speaker 2: could the Mets with this payroll, let a playhomes started

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00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: Opening Day. It just kind of winds up for the teams,

831
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Speaker 2: I think, being an arbitrary a day where this guy's

832
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Speaker 2: on schedule to pitch, so he's going to pitch that day.

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Speaker 2: I see this happening in Fancy Baseball TOWO all the time.

834
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Speaker 2: We're like, oh, he's gonna miss the first two weeks

835
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Speaker 2: of the year. It's like, oh, so he's gonna play

836
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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty games like that that that's a

837
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Speaker 2: really okay way to start the season. So and we

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Speaker 2: saw in twenty twenty three where it's saying it doesn't

839
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Speaker 2: start the season hot or really on fire, he could

840
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Speaker 2: still find his groove in the middle of May or

841
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Speaker 2: June and still go on to have one of the

842
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Speaker 2: better seasons for any pitcher in the National League.

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Speaker 3: Like, that's something that can still happen.

844
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Speaker 2: And I also love the fact that Holmes is the

845
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Speaker 2: opening day starter because one, like we've been pushing him

846
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Speaker 2: so hard in this podcast, and two good things kind

847
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Speaker 2: of happened to the Mets when they have obscure opening

848
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Speaker 2: day starters. Looking back from the last decade to the

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Speaker 2: two weirdest ones I could find were in twenty twenty

850
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Speaker 2: two Tyler McGill won one hundred games and twenty fifteen

851
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Speaker 2: Bartolo Cologne went to the World Series. So I think

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Speaker 2: that's kind of a fun little like super little caveat

853
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Speaker 2: that the Mets. The Mets find ways to kind of

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Speaker 2: have weird opening day starters and maybe make good things

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Speaker 2: happen afterwards.

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Speaker 1: Mets lost on an opening day last year was a

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Speaker 1: great season.

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Speaker 3: It's almost tight and was opening it was opening Day.

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Speaker 1: It's again it's either way to the NLCS.

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Speaker 2: It's fun for all of us because just one of

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Speaker 2: the one sixty two. That's kind of what they they

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Speaker 2: what these teams are thinking. So it's like that, that's

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Speaker 2: kind of where we have to put our mind. How

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Speaker 2: do you feel about that?

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Speaker 1: All right? Nothing else here to talk about. I think

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Speaker 1: we covered everything. So guys, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: listening and watching this episode of the Mets Stuff Podcast.

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Speaker 2: James just too well, just my name, James Chiano doing

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Speaker 2: a lot more fun stuff planned for this week.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, check me out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm Draftnick Mark with the CEE. Thank you Aus for

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Speaker 1: listening and watching. We'll catch you all maybe tomorrow the

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Speaker 1: you guys next time.

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Speaker 3: Peace out, Peace that guys, let's go met