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Speaker 1: I'm John this three and out podcast. Hopefully you're having

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Speaker 1: a great day out there in the streets of reality.

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Speaker 1: We will talk a little football today because it's what

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Speaker 1: we do here. And we had some big contract extensions

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase and T Higgins had been extended. So I

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Speaker 1: did an initial reaction video for YouTube only, and then

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Speaker 1: When it came to Cincinnati, Derek Stingley, the corner star

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Speaker 1: And I think it's one of the most laughable kind

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Speaker 1: physical characteristics. At nineteen twenty twenty one years old playing

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Speaker 1: So let's go for the guy with the best traits,

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Speaker 1: with the greatest gifts. And that's what Stingley possessed and

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Speaker 1: and I think Stingley falls under this too. You feel

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Speaker 1: you've drafted. Why because you know him really well. You

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Speaker 1: have spent years around not the player, but the human being.

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Speaker 1: Because in football, you meet, you lift, you're just sitting

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Speaker 1: Now it's all intertwined, right. They're lifting, they're studying like

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Speaker 1: it's all part of the package. But when you give

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Speaker 1: that's a great deal, like Jamar Chase, no problem. Jamar

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Speaker 1: Chase could play any era, anytime, be an elite I

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Speaker 1: mean Jamar Chase. I'm not alone saying this might be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many players are better at football

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Speaker 1: We all have ego, we all have pride, and I think,

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Speaker 1: this you just your refusal to cut him because you

427
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Speaker 1: feel like he took advantage of you. I just think

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Speaker 1: it's dumb, and I think it's really being led by

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Speaker 1: the owner, who has probably got to be pretty hot

430
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Speaker 1: on this situation, given that his front office clearly convinced

431
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Speaker 1: him to cut this money to an older player, and

432
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: it blew up in their face. A couple other quick things.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this with Coward about the rumors out there

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Speaker 1: on the internet of DK Metcalf to the Chargers. This

435
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: is obviously before he got traded to the Steelers, but

436
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: when he had officially made his trade request. It's like

437
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh should be all over Jim Harbaugh trade a

438
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: high pick, give him extension, build the offense around DK Metcalf.

439
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: It's like, guys, have you watched Jim Harbaugh operate? It'd

440
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: be like, why doesn't in and out sell tacos? It's like,

441
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: what are you guys talking about? They have two items

442
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: on their menu burgers and fries and milkshakes. Jim Harbaugh

443
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, defensive linemen, running backs in defense, defense, defense defense,

444
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Speaker 1: offensive line, quarterback play under control. He was never going

445
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Speaker 1: to trade for DK Metcalf. Maybe if dk Metcalf would

446
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: take a huge pay cut and he could be had

447
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: for like a fifth round pick, Yeah, then maybe Harbaugh

448
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: would have been interested. But given what the Pittsburgh Steelers

449
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Speaker 1: traded for him, Jim Harbaugh would quit football before he

450
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Speaker 1: made that move. A couple days later, what does Jim

451
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Speaker 1: Harbaugh do? He signs Mackai Beckten. McKai Beckton is the

452
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: most Jim Harbaugh signing. I mean McKai Beckon and Najie Harris.

453
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 1: A physical running back who just runs downhill in an

454
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: offensive lineman who was drafted in the top fifteen to

455
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Speaker 1: play tackle, resurrects his career guard and as an absolute mauler. Honestly,

456
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit, at least the version that

457
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: Stotlin had him playing of when when Harball had Mike

458
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: you Potty, the guard who was really good before he

459
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: had a devastating injury against Seattle, I think in the

460
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: NFC championship game in like twenty fourteen. But he just

461
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: stood next to him. He looked like a tackle, but

462
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: he played guard and he was just he was a mother.

463
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Speaker 1: And this is Harball. So whenever people go why didn't

464
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: Harbaugh guys, he's going to take lineman. Look at the

465
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: last team that he had at Michigan. They had whatever

466
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Speaker 1: fifteen players drafted. They had six guys on offense of

467
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Speaker 1: line get drafted. They're only five guys that start. He

468
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: would have had, however, many guys more if Mason Graham

469
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: and the other defensive tackle would have been eligible last year.

470
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: He likes building it in the trenches. While he's a

471
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Speaker 1: former quarterback, he doesn't think about the passing game first.

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Speaker 1: He thinks about the lion of scrimmage, physicality, winning the

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Speaker 1: I am going to shove you the way you don't

474
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: want to go. That's how That's the most basic level

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00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh thinks about football That's how he operated at Stanford.

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Speaker 1: That's how he operated with the forty nine ers, That's

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Speaker 1: how he operated with Michigan, and that's how he's now

478
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Speaker 1: operating with the Chargers. He does not want guys like

479
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. He wants guys like Mackay Becton likes. That's

480
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: what he's gonna want. Okay, last but out least, I

481
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: saw that the the SEC set a record for fourteen

482
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: teams getting in the NCAA Tournament, and uh, I've been

483
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: on this block for a while that clearly with the NIL.

484
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 1: Now there's a lot of moving parts that looks like

485
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: revenue sharing is about to come into college football, which

486
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: I think, if it's done correctly, would greatly benefit the

487
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: SEC if everyone's on an equal playing field. But because

488
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: right now there are some programs that are just I mean,

489
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: Texas is somewhat of an outlier and they're new to

490
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: the SEC, but the Alabama is the LSUS. It's going

491
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: to be difficult for them to go up against Larry

492
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: Ellison in Michigan giving Underwood fifteen million dollars, or Ohio

493
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: State and Oregon with their backing of their boosters. But

494
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: the money that has been made, I would even say

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00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: before the NIL era, but even still that with the

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Speaker 1: television money in the SEC, which is more than every

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00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: other conference. And I've always said that SABAN really Urban

498
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: started it, and then SABAN took it to another level,

499
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: and the SEC just started dominating college football. And their

500
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: television ratings are really high, and they have the best

501
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Speaker 1: television deal and they make the most money by far

502
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 1: that their programs really benefiting. So when you see that

503
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Speaker 1: the SEC got fourteen teams in the NCAA tournament, that

504
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: would never have happened twenty years ago because the SEC,

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Speaker 1: beside a couple programs, they always had Kentucky and on

506
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: given stretches. You know, Florida was really good with Billy Donovan,

507
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: won some national championships, but they didn't go six or

508
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: seven deep. They weren't, you know what. I grew up

509
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Speaker 1: on the ACC or the Big East. That's what the

510
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Speaker 1: SEC has become. Why because they pay so much money, Well,

511
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Speaker 1: where did that money come from? Football? I said this

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Speaker 1: to Colin. Also, when I was in Nashville, I played

513
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Speaker 1: at the Vanderbilt golf course. Their clubhouse at this golf

514
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: course looks like a fucking mansion. It's not the clubhouse

515
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: for the actual country club that is. However, three or

516
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: four football fields to the right, that's just for the

517
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: golf team that has twelve players on it and then

518
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: has its own special little practice area which is massive.

519
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: And when I was leaving the course, I looked over

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00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: who's chipping at that practice facility? Peyton Manning. If you

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00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: follow college baseball, you'll know that the SEC the last

522
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: however handful of years, has dominated college baseball. Why because

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00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: they're paying the top coaches more money than all these

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00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: other conferences. So the amount of money that's getting pumped

525
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: into these programs because of the distribution from the football

526
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: program has been historic. So when you look at the

527
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Speaker 1: SEC dominating college basketball, I think this all goes back

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Speaker 1: to tell Nick Saban thank you. And when I say

529
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Speaker 1: Nick Saban, thank you, because of his dominance put so

530
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Speaker 1: much pressure on the other programs in the conference to

531
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: quadruple down on football, which they were already addicted to,

532
00:29:53,760 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: has benefited everybody not in the football program at these schools. Okay,

533
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: let's dive into a little mail bag at John Middlecoff.

534
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: At John Middlecoff, is the Instagram fire in those dms

535
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: let's start with Brooks. Is Micah Parsons toxic? Can you

536
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: go scorched Earth on the Cowboys like you did the

537
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: forty nine ers? Uh? You know what's funny is whenever

538
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: I see like Micah Parsons trending, obviously he gives a

539
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: lot of takes. I kind of appreciate that. And sometimes

540
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: you see his take and listen, I haven't agreed with

541
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: the ball. When I first saw his take on McCarthy,

542
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: remember him talking about players that worked hard and Mike

543
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: doesn't work hard. Or when you just read his quotes

544
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: and then I listened to him talk, I'm like, I

545
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: kind of like my I've always had a soft spot

546
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: for him. I think he's a pretty special player. And again,

547
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: this is why print media is so dead. If you

548
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: just see a title with a quote, You're like, oh,

549
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: what's he talking about here? And then I hear him

550
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: discuss something, I'm like, yeah, he might have a point.

551
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he's right on everything, and I'm

552
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: not even saying that I follow up with everything that

553
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: he says. But I do think that he is a

554
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,959
Speaker 1: product of when you're on the Cowboys, like it or not,

555
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: you are just a lead into a lot of these

556
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: shows and when you make news, because if you're Micah,

557
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: you host a podcast, and a lot of times Micah

558
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: reacts to things that are said about him, which which

559
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate. I have no problem. I talk for a living,

560
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: So how am I going to beat down someone else

561
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: who also gives opinions and I don't have to agree

562
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: with them all. I bet a lot of you listen

563
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: to me, don't agree with all my opinions, can play

564
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: on my team. Now, I understand from a Cowboys standpoint,

565
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: how much do you want to invest in him? Because

566
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: you've given Dak and CD all this money. I think

567
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: he's a pretty special player. I would say this, Micah

568
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: has not been the problem for the Dallas Cowboys. He

569
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: simply is not. So I think it's easy. Like he

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00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: gave some comment on I'll be honest, the Dexter lawrence

571
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: back and forth, like I just don't care, like I'm sorry, Dexter,

572
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,239
Speaker 1: Mike is a better player than you, and like do

573
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: you think he's the reason you haven't been winning? I

574
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: just disagree with that. I mean, I think a big

575
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: reason that you didn't make a run those couple of

576
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: years in the playoffs because Dak was throwing it to

577
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: the other team. Because for two straight years when you

578
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: had the Niners on the ropes in the second year

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00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: and that first year. I'm talking about the three straight

580
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: years making the playoffs and went lost. Of the Niners lost,

581
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: the Niners lost, the Packers. Packers got your ass kicked.

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Speaker 1: That happens. I mean, sometimes you just play an awful

583
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: game and you get worked two years ago happened to

584
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: the Eagles. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers kicked their ass. Now,

585
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: when you're at home, it sucks. But the other two

586
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: games it was DA's fault. It was simply Dak's fault.

587
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: I just think that I don't think he's toxic. I mean,

588
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: I think we've seen kind of quote unquote toxic players.

589
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: I think like a Terrell Owens maybe in his heyday.

590
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: I don't view Micah that way. Now. I don't pretend

591
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: to like have all the inside information in the locker room.

592
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: I could probably text a coach that had worked there before.

593
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: But I don't think around the league people view Micah

594
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: as some of the quote unquote toxic players of the past.

595
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: I do think anytime you put yourself out there and

596
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: you talk a lot. You're gonna make news when you're

597
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: a player of his caliber and when you're on the Cowboys.

598
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: So if anything you could say, like is the podcast

599
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: worth it? Well, when you're winning, it's awesome. When you

600
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: have a shitty year, it's not great. And I think

601
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: sometimes like when a player goes, we're gonna win a

602
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: super Bowl or something, you know, says some stupid stuff.

603
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 1: I'm just I can't think of all Micah's takes off

604
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: out of my head. It's like, what's he supposed to say?

605
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna suck for the next three years. So I

606
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: don't know. The only issue I ever had, the like

607
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: true issue I've had with Micah was the comment he

608
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: made about McCarthy with the Zach Martin thing, and then

609
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: he like doubled down and pushed back against it. But

610
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: I just I just thought it was wrong and he

611
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: didn't handle himself right. But like he tweeted something about

612
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: brock Purty like welcome to paying a quarterback a lot

613
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: of money, Like he's kind of factually right. If brock

614
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: Purty was on the second year of his rookie deal,

615
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Speaker 1: I don't think the forty nine ers would be doing

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00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: this you know. Now I can't speak to like I

617
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: said to the Dexter Lawrence situation, but I'm not bothered

618
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: by Micah Parsons really at all. I understand there's a

619
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: little NBA feel to him sometimes with the media stuff,

620
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: but I have a longer leash and I'm a little

621
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: more liberal with elite talents. If this was a guy

622
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: not as talented as Micah, like, I would have a

623
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: zero time or some port for them. But like when

624
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: you can bend the edge like that, I can deal

625
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: with some of it. Congress on the wedding, got a

626
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: question for you. Have you decided on a college football

627
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: team that you'd like to follow more closely because you

628
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: like what they have or think they can go all

629
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: the way. I'd like to hear your reasoning. I would

630
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: say this, I have Marcus Freeman in the Notre Dame

631
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: Fighting Irish have gained a supporter. I'm very, very interested

632
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: and fascinated to watch them moving forward because I think

633
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: in the NIL era it's a big advantage for them.

634
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: I think, obviously as it currently stands with their conference

635
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: situation of not being in one and kind of setting

636
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: up their own schedule. Marcus Freeman's clearly a stud I

637
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: like what they go got going on, and I've, i

638
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Speaker 1: would say, historically, been a Notre Dame hater. And listen,

639
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: sometimes I just don't like teams and it's like, why

640
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: don't you like that team? I don't know, I just

641
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: don't like them. I just I just have I just

642
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: don't like that team. I don't really have any of those.

643
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: In the NFL and college football, I have some of those,

644
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: like I don't like Ohio State. I just like rooting

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Speaker 1: against them, you know. And I would say Notre Dame

646
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: kind of always fell under that too, and I've kind

647
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: of pivoted. I actually used to say that about Texas,

648
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: like I just didn't like Texas. Stark'sktint of grown on me.

649
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: Maybe get a little softer as you get older. I'm

650
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: a twenty four year old diehard Bronco fan. Other than

651
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: finally making the playoffs last year, we were irrelevant since

652
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty. I believe Bo Nicks is that guy,

653
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: and Sean Payton has done an incredible job turning this

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Speaker 1: team around. Just want to hear your thoughts about Bo

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00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: and Sean plus free agent additions who fung a green

656
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: Law and Evan Ingram, Well, your coach is big time,

657
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: so he gave him ninety million dollars because he's an

658
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: elite coach. Now, he rubbed some people the wrong way.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think you know the question about Micah Parsons.

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00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: You know, Sean Payton has a lot of people that

661
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: can't stand him in the NFL. He's got a massive ego.

662
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: Some people that don't like him will tell you this

663
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: guy thinks he invented football. But like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: most of the best people in their fields usually have

665
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: a big ego. Now, some can be a little more

666
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: humble in person, but they all believe the same thing inside.

667
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: Sean just doesn't pretend not to believe it. And I

668
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: would say one thing him backing that up immediately Bownicks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of people, let's face it, thought

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00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: he was insane for drafting bow Knicks in the top fifteen.

671
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: Thought it was, you know, almost like an arrogant, like

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Speaker 1: I can make this guy. I can see things other

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00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: guys can't. And then you watch bow Knicks as a

674
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: season went on. He's not a perfect player by any means,

675
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: but it's gonna work. Now, Is he gonna be a

676
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: top five player. Probably not, but can he just be

677
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: if you do a good enough job building the team,

678
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: Like look at Jared Goff and Jalen Hers, Like you're

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Speaker 1: telling me he can't be some version of like combined

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00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: of those guys, like Jared Goff can get rid of

681
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: the ball very fast, and like Jalen is a good athlete. Now,

682
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: I think Jared Goff is a much better pocket passer

683
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: and Jalen is a much more like true verse threat,

684
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: but like he can be a version of like those

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00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: two guys because get rid of the ball fastest important

686
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Speaker 1: with Sean Payton, and then at the end of the day,

687
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: sometimes you're gonna have to make shit happen. What like

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00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: Goff can't in terms of if he has to move,

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00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: he's just I mean, for for NFL standards, is one

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00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: of the worst athletes, might be the worst starting quarterback athlete. Again,

691
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: these are relative terms to NFL players, But you know

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00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: Bo Knicks can't. I think Bo Nicks. You know, we

693
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Speaker 1: saw Jimmy Garoppolo have some good years. For Kyle Shanahan.

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00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: You know Derek Carr had some big time Pro Bowl years.

695
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: I think can be a better version of those guys.

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00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: But he's wish Sean Payton in a well run organization.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty bullish on them. Who fung in green Law?

698
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: I think the only question is, like, you know, WHU fung? Uh?

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Speaker 1: One thing to tarry your acl A lot of players

700
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: have and bounce back. Then he had all these other

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Speaker 1: injuries that I think kind of derailed the Niner situation,

702
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: and they had an another guy that they drafted, came

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00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: in and played really well. The green Law thing. I

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00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: just saw on Instagram that Adam Schefter was on one

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00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: of the Denver radio shows and said that the forty

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00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: nine ers did everything to try to flip him once

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00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: he agreed to the deal with Denver. So the forty

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00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: nine ers desperately wanted to keep him because I would too.

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Speaker 1: Green Law. Green Law is a big time player, and

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Speaker 1: I think if Greenlaw gets the opportunity to essentially be

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Speaker 1: the Fred Warner of Denver's defense, if he can stay healthy,

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Speaker 1: I think like he could be a star, like make

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00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: several Pro Bowls, be like second team All Pro. Fascinating

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Speaker 1: to watch. Now if his leg, you know, last year

715
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: clearly overcompensating with the achilles and pulling hamstrings and it

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00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: was just tried to come back off the injury. It

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00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: was tough. So I'm a huge, huge listen. I love

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00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: who Funk and green Law. Those are my type. Players

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00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: remind me of the nineties. You come into their space.

720
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: They are looking to bleep you up, I mean destroy you.

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00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: That they are. If you're a Bronco fan, if you're

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00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: my age, think of like some of the nineties defenses.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think of some of the Peyton, the von

724
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Speaker 1: Miller defenses with TJ. Ward and some of those guys

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00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: they had back there. They would hit you so hard.

726
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,959
Speaker 1: That's what these guys will do. Charger fans are losing

727
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: their mind that Harbaugh and Ortiz are not using the

728
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: ninety million dollars in cap space during this free agency.

729
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: I'm on the side of Harbaugh and Ortiz trusting their

730
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: judgment to build through the draft and develop their own

731
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: guys and build a sustainable winner. But then the other

732
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: side is the interior line was a complete dogshit last

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Speaker 1: year and they had an opportunity to bolster that area

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Speaker 1: during free agency to protect Herbert a little more. Do

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Speaker 1: you think they could have a more balanced approach. You

736
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Speaker 1: have to remember that Ortiz comes from the Ravens, who

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Speaker 1: despite I mean having feels like they've sustained winning for

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Speaker 1: twenty five plus years. I know they've had a couple

739
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: down years here and there, but for the most part

740
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: they have been one of the high end organizations in

741
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: the league. They're not a huge Spurs team. That's not

742
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: really their style. If you said, how do you find

743
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: a guard or a center, they'd go, we'll draft one

744
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: in the second or the third round, and we'll turn

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00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: that guy into an All pro, maybe even the fourth round.

746
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: And what's Jim Harbaugh's background these last eight years? Find

747
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: guys on the recruiting trail and then develop them. So

748
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: do I want to spend I don't know whatever. Aaron

749
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: Banks got twenty two million dollars a year. Do I

750
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: want a trade for Jonah Jackson who's making eighteen million

751
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: dollars a year? Or do I think I can find

752
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: the same version as a rookie eighty five percent of

753
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: those guys but makes a million dollars. I think that's

754
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: the way they look at it. The other thing is

755
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: when you have cap space, you don't just need to

756
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: use it to use it, right. I mean, they were

757
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: the fifth seed last year, they were the fifth seed.

758
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: So's they're not the Patriots where they're drafting whatever third

759
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: over which you could also say or fourth overall. Patriots.

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00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: Fourth overall is a stupid win at the end of

761
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: the season from being number one overall. They have no

762
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: talent like the Chargers have talent. Chargers were the fifth seed.

763
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: So I think everything's gonna be okay. Free agency is

764
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: extremely overrated because you have to pay so much money.

765
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: I live in Hawaii. We can play golf at Turtle Bay.

766
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: If this is a vacation destination for you. I've never

767
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: been a Turtle Bay, but I would love to go.

768
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: My daughter is getting engaged in Nashville is a likely

769
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Speaker 1: location for her wedding. Can you share the cost of yours?

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00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: Congrats on the wedding. Uh, you know, it's funny. Me

771
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 1: and Maria were talking about that it wasn't cheap. Now.

772
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Speaker 1: We also we didn't have a big wedding, but we

773
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Speaker 1: had a party on Friday night, you know, the reception

774
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: party where every you know, sometimes I've been to a

775
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: lot of weddings where you just have a dinner with

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Speaker 1: the dinner party or the you know, the the groomsmen

777
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: and the all the girls in the maid of Honor

778
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: and the bridesmaids, so you just have like a dinner.

779
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: It's kind of smaller we basically had because we didn't

780
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: have It was just me and her up there with

781
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: the officiant guy Haveberman that we just had a pre

782
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: party on Friday night and everyone was invited and we

783
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: essentially rented out of place which for three and a

784
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: half hours with unlimited booze and food, which will run

785
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: you fifteen to twenty grand. And we essentially did the

786
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: same thing on Saturday night after the where we got

787
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Speaker 1: married at the hotel and had dinner at the hotel,

788
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: which you know, four seasons is obviously not cheap, but

789
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Speaker 1: relative to some of these cities, like it would have

790
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: been three x in New York City or Los Angeles

791
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: or probably Dallas or some of these places. But we

792
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: did three hours at the place where we got married

793
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 1: and then had the dinner, and then I out on

794
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: Broadway basically the first building it's called Acme the third floor,

795
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: all to ourselves and a band, which cost about I

796
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: would say, well over twenty thousand dollars. But that was

797
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 1: like my curveball. You're coming to Nashville for me destination wedding.

798
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: We got a band open bar, So there are ways,

799
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: like you could probably have it in Nashville, depending on

800
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: how many people you want to have for fifty grand,

801
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: I would say, if you wanted to blow it up.

802
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing with weddings, you know, depending

803
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: on how nice and bougie and what exactly you want

804
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 1: to do, you could have hundreds of thousands of dollars.

805
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean there are things that I had known nothing

806
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: about that were there candles, flowers, the signage, shit that

807
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I don't even know what that costs.

808
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: I just know listening to her talk, I don't think

809
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: it was cheap and it was a pain, and there

810
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: are all these other costs. That's why the thing about wedding,

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Speaker 1: besides just the van you and the booze, which is

812
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: all I kind of thought about, there are all these

813
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: extra additives that especially as a guy or as a father,

814
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: you don't really think about that get you know, you

815
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: have to rent out, you know, the chairs and the

816
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: tables and just all this stuff that the flowers and

817
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: the signage are things that would never cross your mind,

818
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they're like, oh this

819
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. This photographer is four thousand dollars. It's

820
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: easy for everyone to bitch and moan, and it's like

821
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Speaker 1: where you're paying, Well, would you do it for half that?

822
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Speaker 1: Would you give your entire day on a Saturday for what?

823
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: You would not do that for twenty dollars an hour?

824
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 1: So why do you get mad with this other person?

825
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: I didn't bitch at ever about the costs that people

826
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Speaker 1: would charge. I mean, at first it's kind of glaring,

827
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: and then you think about it, it's like, well, so these

828
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Speaker 1: people do for a living factory inflation. So I guess overall,

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Speaker 1: no matter where you're gonna get married, Hawaii, Nashville, or whatever,

830
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: you can kind of there are some controllable costs. You

831
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Speaker 1: know how you want to do it. If you're just

832
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: gonna get married and have the party at the venue,

833
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: you could take thirty percent off what I spent at

834
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: the wedding. But a huge key to that is just,

835
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Speaker 1: you know, do it all in one venue, which is

836
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: not something I wanted to do. We wanted to mix

837
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 1: up a little bit. You only get married once ideally.

838
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: Question for the pod the Bears addressed a lot of

839
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: offensive line concerns into trades and free agency signings. At

840
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: this point, I think I trade back and acquire more picks.

841
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: Not a big fan of drafting a running back, wide receiver,

842
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: or any skilled player. At this point, I trade back

843
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: and take the best offensive or defensive lineman available. Thoughts

844
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: on the move, Uh, I've been pretty adamant when it

845
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: comes to the Bears and pick ten, I would just

846
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: take the best alignment on the board. Part of trading back.

847
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a tough draft to trade back

848
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: in because the differentiation of talent at pick seven and

849
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: pick seventeen or pick seventeen and twenty four is not

850
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: going to be viewed very different some years. You know

851
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: that when the crop is a lot deeper and high

852
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: end guys are viewed, you know in the NFL, you

853
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: know from NFL gms of like, hey, there are twenty

854
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: two first rounders. I think this draft you're gonna find

855
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: some gms who say that there are ten first rounders

856
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: in this draft. Well, they're still going to be thirty

857
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: two picks. So if I'm the Bears, I would ideally

858
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: like take a defensive lineman. I think that would be

859
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: the move. Take a defensive Lineman at ten and take

860
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: a running back with one of my second day picks.

861
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: Is there a text chain gms use or a different

862
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: type of software to make mass communication about which players

863
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: a GM is putting up for trade. Yes, it's called

864
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: Adam Scheffernian rap sheet. So when you see on Instagram

865
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: or Twitter wherever you follow the news that so and

866
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: so or Diana Rossini a player is available via a

867
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 1: lot of times, that is a team telling those guys

868
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: to put out the bat signal because instead of texting everybody,

869
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: it's easy to just do that. Or even if a

870
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: guy requests a trade, and sometimes an agent can do this.

871
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: It's like DK metcalf has requested a trade or Deebo

872
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: Samuel's requested a trade. You know, sometimes a reporter breaks that.

873
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: It's basically letting the entire league know because they get

874
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: that information immediately. So I think the easiest way to tell,

875
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: let's say, I'm just gonna use a complete hypothetical. I'm

876
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon and I'm head coach of the Cardinals, and

877
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: you know what, He's been the opposite of this, But

878
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna use this guy as an example. Kyler

879
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: Murray Kyler Murray's available for trade. I would leak something

880
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: to Adam Schefter probably, and then immediately the next day

881
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: I would get ten plus calls. And just because you

882
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: get a call doesn't mean that anything's gonna happen. But

883
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: that's that's how you put up the bat signal. I

884
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: have a strong feeling that Kyle Shanahan will be on

885
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: the soon. There will certainly be some sort of pressure

886
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: from the fans if things don't start well next year.

887
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: I don't see the front office wanting him to be done,

888
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 1: But do you think there will be pressure this year

889
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: now that they paid party in this whole AUK situation.

890
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: I could see an Andy Reid type situation playing out

891
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: for him the next few years unless things change. I

892
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: think he means Andy and Philly. I have a hard

893
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: time with this one. And listen, Kyle can drive me nuts,

894
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: But you file fire Kyle tomorrow. Who are you hiring

895
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: that you feel better about? That was the thing with

896
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: Andy Reid. They finally fired Andy Reid after an awful season.

897
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: He won four games. So if Kyle has a four

898
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: win season, yeah, it'd be problem. But let's say Kyle

899
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: goes nine to eight, which I still think would be shocking.

900
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: Given the schedule, which is not very good. You're gonna

901
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: fire him for who? Because they did for Andy Reid

902
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: the harrier Chip Kelly, and then three years later Dom

903
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: was escorting Chip Kelly out of the building. Now it

904
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: ended up working out Doug a couple of years later

905
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: when Super Bowl, But where did they get Doug from?

906
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: Andy Reid? So if they fired Kyle Shanahan, what they

907
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: do try to hire a Kyle Shanahan Sean McVay guy,

908
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: Like they're not hiring some like meathead defensive coach. What

909
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 1: are you gonna hire Robert Sawa? Well, then who's gonna

910
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: run the offense? Kyle Shanahan guy? Is Robert Sala any good?

911
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: I think it's very very easy to talk about this.

912
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: You know, Andy Reid was there fourteen years. Kyle Shanahan's

913
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: going into year nine. So I still think it'd have

914
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 1: to get really ugly. I think, at minimum, unless something

915
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: like crazy off the field were to happen to Kyle,

916
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: which I think is pretty unlikely given that he's just

917
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: a football family guy that I think he's got like

918
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: three years minimum, even if things get weird, He's got

919
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: a lot of time. So the fans obviously can get

920
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: edge and get pissed off, But I think he's got

921
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: a pretty long runway. Now, maybe you go six and eleven,

922
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 1: Maybe got two more years after the six and eleventh

923
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: thing before it even becomes a tangible conversation. But I

924
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: think there's no way possible he's on the hot seat

925
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: this year. Now. If in a couple of years they've

926
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: paid Purtty a lot of money and it's a disaster, yeah,

927
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: I would say everything would be on the table. The

928
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: other thing is you fire Kyle Shanahan. Think how fast

929
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: he would get hired. The Eagles fired Andy Reid. I

930
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: don't even think he was on the unemployment line for

931
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: a week, and he had like three options, like the

932
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, the Chargers, the Chiefs. I think that would

933
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: be Kyle, and I actually think Kyle would have way

934
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: more options than even Andy had. I think Kyle there

935
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: would be teams that would fire their coach to be

936
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: interested in hiring Kyle Shanahan, or if he would agree

937
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: to be their coach, they would then just fire the

938
00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: guy that had the job. Is like much as he

939
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: can drive you nuts. Never forget the York family. John

940
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: Denise Jed. That'd be his parents and Jed have hired

941
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: guys like Michael Singletary, Jim tom Sula, Chip Kelly after

942
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: don throw him out the building, so that they haven't

943
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: exactly had a stellar record. Beside Kyle Shanahan, I'm hiring coaches.

944
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: They also told Jim Harbaught to pack his shit and leave,

945
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: so I'm hesitant to go. Yeah, just let Jed go

946
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: hire a new coach. You think John Lynch is gonna

947
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: like fire Kyle Shanahan. The only reason I think he'd quit,

948
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: he'd go work at Amazon. If LSU goes nine to four,

949
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: I think Brian Kelly will get fired. The pressure is

950
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: on Brian Kelly. Last week in an interview, he said

951
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: that LSU has twenty six point five million in NIL

952
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: allocated for the next two years. LSU also is the

953
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: number one rated transfer portal class this season. Kelly also

954
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: as a preseason heisman in favorite in Garrettnusmyer. If Kelly

955
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: is fired, do you think LSU could land Dion Sanders

956
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: as its next head coach. I think Sanders plus LSU

957
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: would be dynamite. Uh. I think if Dion this year

958
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: wins seven eight games so he gets rid of Shador,

959
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,959
Speaker 1: he gets rid of Travis, and his team's just good.

960
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: And again you win seven eight games in Colorado. That's

961
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. I think if a guy like Brian Kelly

962
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: Florida came open, I think he would be really really

963
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: high on their list, and I think he would one

964
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: be offered and probably take these sec jobs. Uh. I

965
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: would say. The other thing is when you look at

966
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: coaches when they get fired, programs usually go the opposite,

967
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: and part of Brian Kelly was like this old school

968
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: tough guy. Uh really, by the book, just knows how

969
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: to run a program, kind of the opposite of Eddio.

970
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: And I think Dion has some Eddio qualities. People like

971
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: Dion's better. Eddio won a national championship twenty nineteen, many

972
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: considered the greatest team of all time. So yes, I

973
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: would say that Dion would have a very very good

974
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: chance if Brian Kelly was fired of I think he

975
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: would immediate I mean, obviously, who knows how things play out,

976
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: but immediately be one of their top targets. Now he

977
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: couldn't have. I don't think he'd be a top target

978
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: if he won like five games, which I don't know

979
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I have no clue what Colorado was gonna

980
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: look like this year. I would bet just because they're

981
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: recruiting that they're gonna be pretty solid. But quarterback play,

982
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: just in general in college football, when you don't have

983
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: a returning starter, you just never know. Now they recruited, well,

984
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: I think they one of the guys that might start

985
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: as like the five star guy. But who knows. I

986
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: can't give you like a strong opinion because you felt

987
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: pretty good, like, hey, if there are a line of scrimmage,

988
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: got better. They got Shador, they got Travis Hunter, they

989
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: could the Big twelve, they could be a competitive team,

990
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: and it turns out they were right. But I think

991
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: anytime you know, part of Dion as a coach, I

992
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 1: mean has been with Shador as his quarterback, underrated transition,

993
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean, and one of the great college talents we've

994
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: seen in recent memory, Travis. Those are pretty two pretty

995
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: big losses. I mean, that's that's pretty important. Travis Hunter

996
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: never came off the field and Shador was dynamic. So

997
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm fascinating. I saw Marshall Falk they hired,

998
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: They got a lot of former NFL guys, big hear

999
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: for Dan, he wins eight games, he's getting an SEC

1000
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: job if he wanted it. I mean, who knows, there

1001
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 1: might be some shitty programs that offered him. Me not interested,

1002
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: but like a Florida an LSU, a job like that.

1003
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: I think with the league thinking about the eighteenth game,

1004
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: I was wondering, what you think the best way to

1005
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: determine the game? I think picking the equivalent team from

1006
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 1: the opposite division would create cross conference rivalries, an example

1007
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: being this year the Lions in the NFC North would

1008
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: play the AFC North winner, the Ravens or the Rams

1009
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: versus the Chiefs. Interested to hear you take so right now,

1010
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: the seventeenth game, I'm pretty sure is like an opponent,

1011
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: a rotating opponent from the opposite conference where you finished

1012
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: in your division. You know, if you're the Bengals and

1013
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: you finished third in your division and this year the

1014
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: seventeenth game opponent is the NFC West, you would get

1015
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: matched up with the Arizona Cardinals. So you're saying every

1016
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: single year, if you are the AFC North, you would

1017
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: just match up with the NFC North. So the Bengals

1018
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: would play the Packers and the Ravens would play the

1019
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: Lions right and the you know, in your example, the

1020
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: Chiefs would play the Rams. Yeah, I mean I don't

1021
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: hate it. I do think they would do a rotat

1022
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: I think they would keep it as rotating and they

1023
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: would just do the rotating NFC, which I have. I

1024
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: haven't even thought about it, to be honest with you,

1025
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: but I don't know if it really matters. I don't

1026
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: think you could just do something consistent every year, because

1027
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: even if you did, I actually don't hate the conference.

1028
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: So basically you rotate the three divisions and you always

1029
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: play your division, but in the NFC. So if you're

1030
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: the West, you play the West, if you're the South,

1031
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: you play the South. I get behind that. I think

1032
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: it would be hard to have a better idea than that.

1033
00:57:54,160 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: You could also do right now. Basically your strength to scale,

1034
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: you typically play two of the four conference teams, So

1035
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: if you're the Chiefs, basically every year the Chiefs are

1036
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: playing the Ravens and the Bills, and then they rotate

1037
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: between the other conference. So essentially you play all the teams,

1038
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: all the first place teams in your conference. So yeah,

1039
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: that wouldn't even I'm thinking out loud. Yeah, I like

1040
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: your idea. I could get behind your idea for sure

1041
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: for the mailback. Given the resurgence of guys like Darnold,

1042
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: Gino and Baker, it seems to me that talent evaluators, scouts,

1043
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: gms are doing a good job and it's poor coaching

1044
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: that prevented those guys from having success where they were drafted.

1045
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: Do you generally agree with this or am I simplifying

1046
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: it down? Don't be biased As a former scout, it

1047
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: is much easier to evaluate. Let's just use this example.

1048
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: If I'm taking my bias out evaluate a player, then

1049
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: to coach a player, so like, there are going to

1050
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: be more if you just went around the league. I

1051
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: would say solid to above average scouts and guys that

1052
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: if you just let them pick your players, your team

1053
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: would be fine. Then good coaches, like most coaches, can't

1054
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: be coordinators, let alone head coaches were most I would

1055
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: say semi smart, ambitious scouts could be college directors if

1056
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: they really got the opportunity or wanted to be. So,

1057
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: it is easier to watch Baker Mayfield and go, he's

1058
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: a good prospect. If you watch him play those years

1059
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, he could fucking play. Should he be the

1060
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: first pick should he be the seventh pick, should he

1061
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: be the fifteenth pick. We can debate that, but no

1062
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: human could watch Baker Mayfield play at Oklahoma and think

1063
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: he couldn't play. Not a soul. Now there were some

1064
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: member there was some maturity and off the field issues,

1065
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: but taking that guy and then building an NFL offense

1066
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: around him is something a scout can't do, a general

1067
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: manager can't do, a pro personnel director can't do. Only

1068
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: a small percentage of coaches can do that. So it's

1069
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: just it's why these guys make so much money. It's why, actually,

1070
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: I think a lot of scouts get jealousy is probably

1071
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: the wrong word, but bitter because they got no problem

1072
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: with Andy Reid or you know Ben Jonson or Vic

1073
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: Fangio or you name Kyle Shanna and Sean McVay, these

1074
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: guys that clearly are really good at their job. But

1075
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys who if you've just been

1076
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: grinding your whole career and let's say you're forty years old,

1077
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: you're my age, and you've been in the league for

1078
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: fifteen eighteen years, and you make two hundred grand, which

1079
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: is a good living relative to how much you work,

1080
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: and especially if you're good at your job, and let's

1081
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: say you're like the SEC scout, Let's say you make

1082
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty grand relative to how much you

1083
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: work and given the expense or the the value of

1084
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: the organization in which you work for. In most industries,

1085
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: you'd probably make like eight hundred grand a million bucks.

1086
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: But scouts a lot of times are very underpaid. Yet coaches,

1087
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: Yet I have if I if I work for a

1088
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: team and let's say I got like three or four coach,

1089
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even think this guy's good. Well,

1090
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: the going right for a quarterback coach is like eight

1091
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: hundred grand, So I got this guy making three or

1092
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: four times what I'm making. It's one thing is the

1093
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: guy's good. So another thing is like, yeah, this guy

1094
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's doing, and we're gonna fire this

1095
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: guy at the end of the season. So this the

1096
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: the pay scale for scouts and coaches is a little

1097
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: out of whack. Again, a highly paid a good coach

1098
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: should make the most of anyone in your building, not

1099
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: a player. But there are probably half the league are

1100
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: guys that you could replace yesterday and not even blink,

1101
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: and they're making two, three X like scouts that are

1102
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: pretty important. So I'd argue the scouts a good one

1103
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: are technically or consistently underpaid. But I would agree with

1104
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: your assessment that it's just harder to coach guys, but

1105
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: there are less good coaches. I guess this is a

1106
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: long winded way. I'm like, he probably feels like I'm

1107
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: trying to stick up for him. But look at Baker Mayfield,

1108
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: whin ad E thrive. He had a little success with

1109
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: Stefanski and then he went with with Liam Cohen and

1110
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: Canalis and had a lot of success. Well, what are

1111
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: those two guys? They're head coaches. Say this for Canalis,

1112
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: like by the end of the year he went God,

1113
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: Bryce Young looks pretty good unless you're Baker threw like

1114
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: forty three touchdowns, Like I think Liam Cohen knows what

1115
01:02:46,880 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: he's doing. How would you rank the coaches in the

1116
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: AFC West? Obviously Andy is one, but how would you

1117
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: order the other three coaches? I think you have to

1118
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: look at it like this, if I owned a team,

1119
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: would I and I think you had because you could

1120
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: make the argument for Pete Carroll this was ten years ago.

1121
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: Because I and you have to ask their general managers like,

1122
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: is Pete easy to deal with or does he just

1123
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: feel like fun loving and actually kind of difficult, Because

1124
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: I think there might be some of that, But given

1125
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: that it's twenty twenty five, I think Pete would have

1126
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: to be last. But we're six seven years removed where

1127
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: Pete I think could easily be the number two pick

1128
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: in this. So if Pete are fourth, you're in pretty

1129
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,919
Speaker 1: good shape. If I owned a team, who would I hire?

1130
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: Jim's a little quirky, you know, all coaches are a

1131
01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: little weird, but you can have conversations with Sean and Andy.

1132
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: I think sometimes Jim could be difficult to conversate with.

1133
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: And if I owned a team, if I'm picking two

1134
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: guys that I know I'm gonna win with, I would

1135
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: probably want the guy that it's just easier to communicate

1136
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: with on a daily basis. But the one thing I

1137
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: do feel like with Sean Payton over you know, difference

1138
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: with him and Horrball, Sean Payton's gonna be the boss.

1139
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: So I'm basically like with Andy, Andy, lets Veitch pick

1140
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: the players like Sean Payton's picking the players. And it's

1141
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: one thing with a quarterback, no problem if my head

1142
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: coach wants to pick the quarterback, but so I want

1143
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: to pick in my Detackle and my Okay, it's just

1144
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: that's a balance too. So I I guess I would

1145
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: go Sean Payton. But I don't think you go wrong.

1146
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: That's a tough question. I think Pete Carroll just acting

1147
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: like the fourth that's pretty crazy. Who are you picking

1148
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: NA Championship stets and Bennett or National Championship Mac Jones

1149
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL, I'm picking mac Jones. Bar's pretty low though.

1150
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: The one thing with Sean Payton different Jim Harbaugh is

1151
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: like with Jim, now, Greg Roman's probably not gonna get

1152
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: a head coaching job, but like Jesse Minter will, so

1153
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: he's very dependent on who he hires as coordinators. With

1154
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, I can never lose my offensive coordinator. I

1155
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: can never lose my offensive coordinator is always my head coach.

1156
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: So I think, thinking back like I will if all

1157
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: things are pretty close to being equal, I will take

1158
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: the coach to Golf's place, because that is one thing

1159
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: that I will never have to replace. And if both

1160
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: guys are gonna win, that means you're gonna lose coaches,

1161
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: and they both could lose defensive coordinators to become head coaches.

1162
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: I mean, vance Joseph could easily get another shot if

1163
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: his defense keeps looking like that. But if Great Roman,

1164
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: he probably have to get fired. That would mean he

1165
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: got fired by both hardball brothers if he did. But

1166
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if Jim loves him more than John

1167
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: thought for the mailbag. To add more interest, drama, rivalry

1168
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, the top seeds get to publicly pick

1169
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: the team they want to play in the playoffs. It

1170
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: would also add more incentive for the lower seeds to

1171
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: beat the higher seeds. This doesn't just apply to the NFL.

1172
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: I think all sports could benefit from this. You know

1173
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: who would never vote for this the teams, Because if

1174
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: you're the Chiefs, if you're the Eagles, if you're the Lions,

1175
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: think of yourselves as the top seeds. It's easy for

1176
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: the team you're going to play to have a lot

1177
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: of motivation, right Like when the Commanders went into Detroit

1178
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: or when the Rams went into Philly. They were a

1179
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: big underdog. They knew it. They didn't They don't even

1180
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: have to talk about it, Like no one thought that

1181
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: they could win. If I choose you, which is incredible,

1182
01:06:55,400 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 1: like I want to play the Green Bay Packers. They're

1183
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: not only the underdog. I just gave him the best

1184
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: easiest motivation in the history of sports. So I think

1185
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:11,439
Speaker 1: the good teams and every coach worth their salt should

1186
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: view themselves like my team can be good and we

1187
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: aspire to be there would not want that. So if

1188
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: I was an owner, or definitely if I was a

1189
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: league office official, I would want it, But I don't

1190
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: think the teams would do you think there is one

1191
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: specific factor that leads to most players busting in the NFL?

1192
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: Is there anything that comes up on tape or during

1193
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: face to face meetings that is an instant red flag

1194
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: to you? You know what's funny is like Solomon Thomas

1195
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: is a guy that is gonna be viewed as maybe

1196
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: not a bust because he's gonna have a twelve year

1197
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: NFL career, but a guy that never lived up to

1198
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: being drafted third overall. But it wasn't his fault that

1199
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers overdrafted him. He did not have

1200
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: the skill set. He wasn't big enough to play just

1201
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: strictly defensive tackle and dominate inside. He wasn't twitchy enough,

1202
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: and bendy enough to be a dominant edg rusher. He

1203
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: was kind of just a tweener and he's developed just

1204
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: a solid role. He plays hard, he's strong, he's good

1205
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: against the run. He gets some just extra efforts sacks,

1206
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: and that's why he's gonna play in the league a

1207
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: long time. But he was overdrafted. If you had drafted

1208
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: a guy like him in the third round, you go,

1209
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 1: we draft a guy in the third round. He played

1210
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 1: in the league for eleven years, Like, that's a great pick,

1211
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: even if he only plays for your team for four

1212
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: or five years. But the reason a guy like him

1213
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: can go, well, this guy is not that good, but

1214
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you look up. He plays

1215
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 1: forever because the intangibles are off the charts. And I

1216
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: think the biggest reason guy's quote unquote bus is because

1217
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: they don't like football, and not liking football means you

1218
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,560
Speaker 1: don't play that much football. Anyone can get up for

1219
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: a football game. They're fun. There's seventy thousand people watching you.

1220
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: They're raw ross speeches before the game. You just the

1221
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: buzz of a stadium. There's nothing like it. You know

1222
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: what sucks? Studying film Tuesday afternoon on your off day,

1223
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: going to the weight room before practice on a Wednesday

1224
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: when your body still hurts, putting in that extra film

1225
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 1: work on Thursday afternoon, four days before the game, doing

1226
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: extra treatment so your body feels well on Friday and Saturday.

1227
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: And the intangible love of the sport because certain guys like,

1228
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 1: if you just play hard, your skill set is so elite.

1229
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: Derek Stingley is one of those guys has an elite

1230
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: skill set. So if the guy likes the game and

1231
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: takes the coaching, he should be a good player. Now

1232
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: he clearly is all in. He's got good coaching, he's

1233
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: become an excellent player. And then there are some guys

1234
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: whose skill set are kind of average, but they overcome

1235
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: it because they just they give you one hundred percent

1236
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: effort seven days a week. And I think the biggest

1237
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: reason most guys quote unquote busts or aren't good football

1238
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:06,759
Speaker 1: players clearly some guy's skill set like he just couldn't

1239
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: separate as a wide receiver, and it's like I can't

1240
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: get open, I can't get open. I think most guys

1241
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: like I don't know how much they like football because

1242
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: football is really hard because unlike basketball and baseball, you

1243
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: don't get to play that often, So most of the

1244
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: things you do around the game of football don't really

1245
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 1: have that much to do with putting it on full

1246
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: pads and playing against another team. Their practice, they're the

1247
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: weight room, their meetings, their walkthroughs. It's a grind, man.

1248
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: It's why the best players are addicts. They love the sport,

1249
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: they get joy in playing, but they also love grinding

1250
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: and working. Like when I think of the two best

1251
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 1: players of my adult life, Brady and Manning. For as

1252
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 1: great as they were on Sundays, what really defined them

1253
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: was like how addicted they were or on all the

1254
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: other six days and how much time they spent grinding, film, practicing,

1255
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 1: going above and beyond. And that's what Drew brees, That's

1256
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 1: what made them great players, right. And that's the one

1257
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: thing with Aaron Rodgers, like did he love to do

1258
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 1: as much as them? I don't know. I mean, I

1259
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: think it's up for debate, so I would say it's

1260
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: usually an intangible characteristic. We will end on this. Dan

1261
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: Patrick interviewed John Gruden and asked him several questions about

1262
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: the lawsuit. I've listened to Patrick for a while, and

1263
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: I know He's a legend in sports broadcasting, but I

1264
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: felt he was going after Gruden, especially after Gruden made

1265
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,839
Speaker 1: it clear he was not interested in talking about the lawsuit.

1266
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: I think Dan knew it didn't go well because after

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Speaker 1: the interview he explained that he had to ask those

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Speaker 1: questions to be fair. To me, it didn't come across

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Speaker 1: as being fair. Just thought i'd ask your opinion about

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Speaker 1: your interview philosophy and if you believe the age of

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Speaker 1: clickbait has changed the intent of asking those questions. Coincidentally,

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Speaker 1: your interview with Jay Gruden was one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: episodes ever. Well, I don't do many interviews on this show.

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Speaker 1: I should do more, and I plan on ideally doing

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Speaker 1: more in the off season. But like Dan, Patrick is

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest sports interviewers in the history of society.

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Speaker 1: So when you're an older like to me, if you

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Speaker 1: come on my show. When I have asked people to

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Speaker 1: come on my show and I've heard a bunch of

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Speaker 1: no's with famous people, I tell them like, Hey, anything

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Speaker 1: you don't want to talk about, I will not talk about.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a big jay. I'm not doing journalism here.

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Speaker 1: If there's something going on that you know, it's something

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Speaker 1: it's pretty easily avoidable. All avoid it. I'm asking you

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Speaker 1: to come on my show. You know, I think dan

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Speaker 1: Is comes from just a generation that, like I don't

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Speaker 1: view myself as a media guy. I'm just a guy

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Speaker 1: that likes sports to talk about it. Luckily, a lot

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Speaker 1: of people find it entertaining, and we bullshit about football

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Speaker 1: in life here. But like I understand, you can't have

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Speaker 1: on John Gruden and not ask like what's your situation

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Speaker 1: with the league? If you're Dan Patrick, if I had

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Speaker 1: done John Gruden, it would never come up. I don't

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Speaker 1: care when it plays out. It plays out. Plus, like

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Speaker 1: Dan Patrick also is not trying to get clickbait, like

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Speaker 1: I don't mean you're talking about a guy who's I

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Speaker 1: mean worth millions of dollars. He views it as like

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Speaker 1: one of the big stories with John Gruden is like

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Speaker 1: what is your status with the league? For me, it's

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Speaker 1: like I'd rather just ask him questions about like Max

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Speaker 1: Crosby or what he thinks about like Justin Herbert. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't so I think everyone has a different angle.

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Speaker 1: I think Dan is being a professional, and I think

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Speaker 1: if you wanted to say, like I'm not a professional,

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Speaker 1: and I would say, you're right, I'm not. I'm just

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Speaker 1: running a podcast business here and trying to be entertaining. Dan,

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Speaker 1: is you know much more of an old professional. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess I don't know how else to say it.

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Speaker 1: I uh, I did watch I think you're talking about

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Speaker 1: an interview. There's probably I don't know, six not even

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Speaker 1: six months ago, but during the season I don't view. Sometimes,

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Speaker 1: you know, quote unquote clickbaity. I also think clickbait that

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Speaker 1: is a that word is misused a lot, especially on

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Speaker 1: like Twitter. That was for a generation of writers because

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Speaker 1: they made their money on like if you clicked on

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Speaker 1: my article, and if then if I got however many

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Speaker 1: let's say one hundred thousand people that looked at the article,

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Speaker 1: I could sell it for a certain amount, you know

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Speaker 1: the way that I mean, if you're either using my

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Speaker 1: game time promo code or not middle cop this is

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Speaker 1: a clickbaity what tweet? Elon's never paid me a penny,

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Speaker 1: There's no, there's no never been any such thing as

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Speaker 1: a clickbaity tweet or anything from me, because to me,

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Speaker 1: a clickbait, I would say, basically is saying that you're

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Speaker 1: trying to make money off whatever someone's clicking on, and

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Speaker 1: I think it gets misused a lot, like Dan's just

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Speaker 1: asking him questions like you're already there watching it, So

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Speaker 1: I just think he's trying to be professional. And some

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Speaker 1: people are big jays and some of us are just

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Speaker 1: are not, And I think it's just a different tactic

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Speaker 1: which how we approach everything. So yeah, with the cream

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Speaker 1: rise and go from there. The volume