WEBVTT - Microdosing 101 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:04.120 What up, guys. So before we kick off today's episode, 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:08.039 I have a special and exciting announcement. On August seventeenth, 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.080 We'll be hosting a live taping of Cheeky's and Chill 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.800 in Los Angeles, presented by Kellogg's. It's a part of 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:19.439 the Micuntura Podcast Networks Anniversary. So head over to stage 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:23.639 pilot dot com slash Mike Ultura again stage pilot dot 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:28.280 com slash Micultura to purchase tickets and for streaming info. Okay, 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:34.519 hope to see you there. I was missing something, so 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.640 I started microdocing and it actually works and it helps 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:41.080 and for anxiety and depression. It's helped me a lot, 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:42.680 and that's why I started doing it. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:44.200 Psychedelics. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.520 It's given us a chance to actually connect with ourselves. 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:49.800 Once we do that, we connect with nature, we connect 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.080 with everybody else and eventually the universe. 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.240 I want this medicine to bring the best out in me, 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:58.400 to make me a better version of myself, to heal 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:00.800 my mind body in socas like I want to have 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.000 a good experience, I'm intending that I want to be 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:10.920 the best self. Happy Monday, guys, how is everyone doing today? 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:16.560 I hope you guys are doing fabulous espana. I'm really 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.640 looking forward to today's episode because we're going to be 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.960 talking about something I've hinted at over the last few months, microdosing. 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:26.240 I told you guys how it's changed my life, but 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.720 I haven't really said too much more about it, and 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:30.760 that's because I wanted to wait until we had a 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:34.279 perfect guess. So now that we have that person, let's 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:46.880 dive right into it. This is Cheeky's and Chill. Our 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.520 guest today is Jose Antonio Bardiya. He's an artist, writer 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:56.480 and the host of two podcasts, Let Squela Cecreta is 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.640 actually part of the family you guys, the Mike Dura 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:03.840 podcast Network. So welcome to the show. Welcome back, Thank 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.200 you so much. I'm so happy to have you here. Pensent, 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.360 I was like, I need to talk about micro docing 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.600 because I've mentioned it on the podcast a lot, but 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.760 I don't know enough about it yet. So I was like, 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.120 I need someone that's open about this and has an 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:19.960 open mind and has tried it, so let's talk about it. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:24.320 Quick disclosure, I'm not a medical professional or anything, so 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:28.480 everybody that wants to try this just ask medical professional first. 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.160 But I can give you all of my everything I've 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.919 read from Timothy Leary and the DMT spirit molecule and 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.560 all of these things and my personal experience. Okay, so 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.320 this is incredible. I think it's really important that we. 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.760 Talk about this, yes see. And this is why because 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.919 I think when we had our first conversation here on 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:51.800 Chiki's and Chill, we touched a little bit about ayahuasca 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:58.600 A yahaska Okay, a ayahuasca. I still haven't tried it, 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.600 So we talked a little bit about that stuff. So 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.919 that's why I thought about you. And again you guys 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.200 like like Osantonio just said, we are not qualified professionals. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.000 It's just I wanted to have an open conversation with 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.040 someone that is open about it. And anyways, so let's 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.600 talk about it, Okay. Lampasta said what four or five 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:16.639 years ago something like that. 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:22.880 See, yeah, oil me like as an exercise, and I've 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.680 been reading about it and train it and I have 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.800 my journals and it's as therapy because I started I 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.160 did acid when I was younger. It changed my life 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.120 completely LSD and it was a bad trip, but it 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.640 just it confronted me with my ego and it just 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:38.640 changed the way I. 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:40.840 Saw the world and my family and myself. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.040 And when I got older, I said, like, okay, let's 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.240 get into this, but for real, like let's read into it. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:51.760 Let's actually use it to further my mind, my spirit 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.600 and you know, control the ego. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.440 I think that's what this is all about. 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.240 And that's how I started, and that's how I got 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:02.200 it into psychedelics and microtos and it helped a lot 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.240 because I have I'm not diagnosed, but obviously I have 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.520 like ADHD and dyslexia and all of that stuff. 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.920 He said, obviously, so fun. 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.480 I was born in the eighties, so I was never diagnosed. 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:16.799 That was good because I was never drugged or anything. 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:21.440 So I'm where I am thanks to my crazy, bizarre, 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:22.640 absurd mind. 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.880 To your very beautiful mind, I means you have a 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:30.040 very expanded just like I can tell you're an intelligent person, 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:31.760 and I want to talk to you about so many questions. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:33.080 I mean, so many questions. I want to talk to 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.479 about so many things. It's it's a beautiful mind. But no, okay, 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:40.799 Mira Joe John pees So the psychedelics, my brother actually 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:42.280 was the first one I started doing it, and he 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.560 wanted me to do it with him, like three Christmases ago. 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.600 It can know I'm not ready, Like I just wasn't ready. You. 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.960 I thought it's something bad because I grew up with Oh, 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:57.320 it's a drug and and you shouldn't and familiar Cristiana, 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:02.080 I said, exactly, don't meditate, don't do yoga because it 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.239 takes you to a different dimension and you're not supposed 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.680 to see that. And that's I feel like, very like 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:11.160 religion can be very with Sino Findera Nadia, because I 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:13.440 respect all religions. There's a lot of beautiful things from 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.440 every religion, you guys. So that's where my thoughts came. Finally, 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:20.240 I said, I started looking at documentaries on psychedelics on 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:24.159 LSD on how these things can really heal our body, 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.760 mind and soul literally, So I said, okay, this is 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.600 right up my alley. I like meditating, I like hiking. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.799 I feel like I was missing something, So I tried 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.240 it and I started microdosing. And a friend of mine 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.000 actually was the one that introduced me, and she gave 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.600 me some. It actually works and it helps, and it 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:44.119 can exactly, it frees your mind and it can really 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:47.440 heal you, and you can stop taking in my opinion, 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.480 prescribe medication. I'm not saying that. Obviously you got to 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:52.960 talk to your doctrine all that stuff, but for anxiety 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.360 and depression, it's helped me a lot, and that's why 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.200 I started doing it. Yet they will, okay, be as 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:07.520 missus on stage persona. I feel just I don't even 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:08.320 know how to explain it. 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:13.880 But I'm like, since you don't care, you're free and 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.920 you're free to care, right, but your fredeo care about 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:20.080 what really matters, so you can let go of anxiety 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:21.720 and all of these things. And what you're saying is true. 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:27.240 There's actually a lot of studies they're using MDMA, psychosybline, 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:31.200 mushrooms and LSD to cure PTSD and they're having amazing 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:35.039 results with this. This is science space, but it's hard 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.159 because since they're still illegal in some places. Well it's 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:42.880 hard to have actual scientific studies when you're managing something illegal, right, 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.039 But I think micro doses are what are we start 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.480 with the beginning, Like a micro dose is about one 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:52.200 tenth of the regular dose. So let's say you would 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.440 take one gram of mushroom. That would be like the 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.920 norm like for a regular psychedelic trip. So you would 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.880 take one tenth of a gram and that's your micro does. 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.479 Okay, So that's why I'm doing massive man's right. Okay, 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:09.240 so spoke. You could do it in one right, like 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.280 do have a big trip, or you could do micro 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.280 dos in which is I do every two to three days. 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.280 Yes, and that's important actually okay. So, and it differs 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.400 in this way with the micro dos. And this is 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.280 what's so beautiful. But you will not trip. You will 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:25.040 not get the visuals, you will not get all those 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.280 super tingly feelings, you will not talk to the plants, 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:33.960 and so you only get this feeling of just incredible 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:37.240 well being. You'll be able to concentrate, you'll be able 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.440 to get your ideas together, and and this this feeling 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:45.480 of everything's okay, yes, without the tripping part. So that's important. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.280 You can go on throughout your day like everything is normal. 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.560 Nobody will even be able to tell. Yeah, it's important. 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.840 It's really important that you you have a diary for 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.400 because most people will go like, well, nothing happened, that's 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:57.800 the point. 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.240 But if you look back and do you think about how. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.360 Your last week or two weeks, you're gonna be like, well, 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.800 actually I was really happy. I slept well, I wasn't anxious, 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:08.040 I was really creative. 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.240 And that's when you can really feel like, oh, this 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:11.320 is actually working for me. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:16.040 Yes exactly, yo, Maca. I'm like feeling a little better. 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:21.400 But I was sick for like two weeks, Metumbo. But 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.000 when I did micro dose during those days, and I 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.000 don't know if it's just a mental thing, I don't know, 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:29.640 but I started feeling sad again. And the difference that 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.480 I see with micro dosing is that I don't feel 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:35.960 as sad. I don't feel like I just like you said, 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:37.960 I just feel like everything's gonna be okay. And I 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:43.440 set an intention every time. It's not just amas, but 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.360 I set an attention, and I pray, and I pray 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.120 over my medicine and I call it medicine, and I 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.880 drink it with water, and I don't feel anything anymore 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.400 because I think your body gets used to it fairly quickly. 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.320 So if I want to drink instead of two pills, 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.240 I drink three. And I don't know about all the 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:58.880 grams and stuff like that, you guys, but I just 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:00.960 know that I micro dose is very all went on. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.640 I feel more creative and I just feel different, and 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.360 I started doing it again. Yeah you want to say, man, 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.240 and I feel I just feel like better again, not 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.920 saying I see. 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:12.680 And what it does is I mean, I was telling 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.280 you the important part about giving it one or two 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.520 days before every take so that you can get rid 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.280 of it and then it'll hit you just like the 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.079 first take, because if you take it every day. Although 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.360 there's some people that say, like, take it from Monday 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.760 to Friday and then don't take it Saturday and Sunday, 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:31.679 the thing is you need to let your body get 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:35.160 rid of it so you don't build up tolerance, because 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:36.600 then you'll need three or four or five. 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:38.040 Then it's not a micro dose anymore. 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.160 There's nothing wrong with it, but you want to keep 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.520 the micro does at least for your normal settings. Like 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:47.120 for me, I do LSD and much room micro dos. 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.080 And I found out that for my brain, my brain 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.160 just it works incredibly well with LSD. 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:53.880 I see. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.800 So you know, I work writing, I investigate all the 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.040 true crime and the ghost stuffs and everything, so I'm 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:02.760 always reading and and the first thing I realized with 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.520 micro dosing is that I could recall names. I'm really 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.120 bad with names. I could recall all the names that 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.880 I just read. I would write five pages and when 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:13.800 I'm done, I'm like, oh wow, five pages has been 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:15.680 like two hours. Didn't even feel them because I was 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:16.679 just like in the zone. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:18.880 Yeah, focused, ultra focused. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:19.360 Ultra focused. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:20.960 But as soon as I wanted to do something else, 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.040 I could do anything or not like adderall or any 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.120 of these things which I've tried, and they do not work. 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:27.680 With my print day. It's just not good. 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.719 But like the main difference was with LSD was like 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.880 that with mushrooms. With the micro dos, it was just 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.120 exactly the same, except it makes me even more social 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:41.200 than I am when I always want to talk to 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.400 people and everything, so I'm focused, but then I. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:48.360 Need to tell somebody about this. This is incredible. I 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:49.480 wanted to talk to people. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.240 So what I do is when I'm working and everything 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:56.360 I do the LSD micro dos, and when I'm gonna 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:57.760 go out, when i know I'm gonna be with people 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:01.040 and everything I do the mushroom melest the macro dos, 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.840 and that that's how it works with my brain just perfectly, 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.600 and I'm always in this incredible mood. And I think 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:12.480 something really important is that it helps yourself to figure 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.400 these things out. It's not like a chemical that will 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.560 block signals, and as soon as you take the chemical out, 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.800 those signals will come back and so you can't stop anymore. Yeah, 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.000 micro dos will work with neurop plasticity. 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:26.240 That's what LSD and. 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:31.000 Mushroom, so you can actually your your brain reworks itself 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.400 and neurons and it helps you think and actually get 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:34.000 through things. 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:38.120 Yeah, because I feel like it does work like you 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.920 just said, like on a cellular level. It connects things 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:42.960 that I in my mind. That's what I envision like 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:44.800 when I've taken more like when I go to a party, 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.760 instead of drinking alcohol, I'll just take like some chocolatitos, 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.640 you know, those mushrooms. And I feel like, like you said, 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.120 I start like start talking about hey, and what do 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.240 you think about the lasstre yas you know, like it 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.640 just just things just to start conversations, and I'm pre social, 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:06.959 but it's a deeper conversation. Look, I just start like 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.240 like kind of even like a like a psychic in 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:17.720 a way. You know, do you drink alcohol? 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:18.280 Yeah? 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.640 Okay, Okay, cool. I was just wondering because now I'm 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.800 like I've been praying when I'm micro docingkitas as ghanas 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:30.560 tom and I feel like anything that's more natural, like 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:32.640 like shrooms are are just more healthy, you know what 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:33.840 I mean, for your body, they are. 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:34.960 But that's something I do. 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:39.840 I will substitute drinking with with like taking mushrooms. What 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.640 I do is I usually have at least two times 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.080 a month. I'll take a day of the week, like 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:48.400 a Sunday, and I'll do the full dose. I'll write, 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.280 I'll have my music ready, I'll have I'll start in 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:52.880 the afternoon at one o'clock. 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:54.000 It'll last through the night. 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:58.320 And I always have questions to ask and meditation exercises 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:00.920 and what you do you want to do when you 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:05.040 do this is always ask questions, receive answers, and try 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.679 to elevate your mind. Right if if there's something bothering you, 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:12.319 you can fix it because it'll actually push you, forcing 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.640 you to confront whatever's going on with you. And at 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:17.480 the same time, that's what they call a bad trip, 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.440 like a bad trip, but what it actually is it 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:22.160 cycles you with a problem. 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.040 So you'll be like, oh, I'm really scared of this. 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:25.040 Oh I'm really scared of this. 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.199 I'm really scared of this and it becomes like when 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.440 you read the same word a lot of times and 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.959 then it loses its meaning. So with the bad trip, 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.160 this problem will lose its meaning and then you can 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.960 actually analyze what's actually happening to you. And while you 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:45.199 were saying that it can reconnect, it make new neurological connections, 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.800 it can also break neurological connections. That's why it's being 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.880 so good at PTSD because. 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.600 When my brother does it, he goes back to like 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.400 things that he needs to heal from his childhood of 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.600 coause and then he he's like I he cries it 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.760 out and then he feels better the next day. You 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.280 don't mean, it's almost like it's it breaks well bad 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:11.960 habits as well, could break bad habits, but also generational things. 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.360 Totalmente's looks. It's what it's doing. 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:17.960 It's why it's so it's breaking new grounds in psychology 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.360 and how to ward the brain works. Because we need 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:24.800 to understand that we grew up with psychedelics millions of 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.840 years ago when we were hominids. You know, there's the 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:31.400 stone ape theory that says that we probably ate much 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.040 rooms or something, and that helped our brains grow real 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.760 big and start looking at the stars and start doing. 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:37.920 Art and all of these things. 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.240 So a lot of art, like anthropologists and archaeologists need 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:45.000 to realize that we were probably high as a species 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.600 when we made a lot of art, and you need 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.000 to look at it through that lens. 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:50.360 They were trying to tell us something. 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.840 But because they were on rooms, right, and the if 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.080 you're in on trooms, then you can understand it. 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:57.760 So we shouldn't be afraid of these things. 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.560 We need to understand them and educate people on what 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.000 they can do how to take. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:06.440 Them because quand they're they're they're afraid of it. 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.640 Yeah, and it's not just that they tell us like 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:10.560 they're drugs, but most people will tell you like, oh no, 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:12.760 well let's see that's horrible. I took it out a 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:14.840 rave and it was horrible, Like, well, you shouldn't take 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.920 psychedelics at a party when you don't know what's going 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:21.680 to happen to you, because it it may turn bad. 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:23.840 I mean, it won't hurt you, but you will have 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:25.680 a bad time, and then you will be afraid. 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:28.280 Of them exactly. So that was my next point because 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.320 I think a lot of people use it as a 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.840 quote unquote party drug, and you can. But the thing 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.960 is if you see it and view it as a medicine, 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.720 these things LSD psychedelics, and you do it on a 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.200 spiritual realm and you do it like like you said, 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:44.720 That's one thing I want to implement is I want 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.320 to start journaling when I'm microdosing, just because it's like 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.560 I haven't put that into play. But for me personally, 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.760 I feel like you have to prepare yourself, but have 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.640 your music ready, have something to write to a kusamabi 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.880 and muchasidas. You know, like a lot of crazy ideas 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.160 that are I wouldn't have thought about them, to be honest, 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.480 if I wasn't, you know, on shrooms better went on, Yes, 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.760 like you can use it for party, but like jose said, 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.680 you guys, you have to be careful because I feel 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.680 like you need to be in a safe place and 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.640 you need to do it in a way of I'm 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.920 trying to change myself for the better. And sometimes when 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:19.680 there are a lot of people, you can have and 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:21.600 you most likely will have a bad trip. So that's 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:23.280 why I think it's like, oh, it's a party drug 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:27.040 and this and that, yes and no, so just be mindful. 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:28.880 I mean I would tell people like, if you're going 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:30.840 to start to learn how to ride a bike, you 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.800 won't get you won't go mountain biking, as when you're 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.440 starting right, first learn about the bike, how it feels, 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.280 what it does to you, how to control it. Now 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.440 you control the bike, the bike does not control you. 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.520 Then you can take it out to a different kind 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.400 of terrain and everything. It's the same with psychedelics. Use 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.240 it for you, learn what it does to you, let 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.240 it cure you, let it confront you with your fears 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.640 and fix them. Once you know that you can control 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:59.440 it perfectly it happens, then you can take it outside 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.400 and go a place when you know that you won't 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:04.679 get overwhelmed by the music or the people, because that's 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.000 usually what happens. You get overwhelmed and you don't have 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.800 a safe space, and you start to panic and you 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:13.200 get paranoid it and they start looping and that's your 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.359 bad trip. But if you're in your home with somebody 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.320 that knows what they're doing also, and you have your bed, 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.159 if you want to go lie down, take. 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.199 A shower, you have fruit or monkeys, you can go 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:23.600 with that. 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.720 Go outside, you know that's how you should always start. 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:31.480 And even so the main point of psycholotics should always 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:33.040 be to better yourself. 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.000 Yes, you have to set that mindset to say, yes, 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.360 I want to better myself. That's exactly what I say. 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:42.560 I want this medicine to bring the best out in me, 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:44.760 to make me a better version of myself, to heal 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.080 my mind body. And so it's like I want to 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.280 have a good experience. I'm intending that I want to 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:58.119 be the best self. I don't know if it's because 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:02.679 I'm doing it now. Check tells this whole right. The 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:08.240 microdocing or you know, doing like mushrooms has become very popular, 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:09.760 I should say, for the lack of a better word, 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:11.560 why do you think that is. Is it just something 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.160 that people have been doing or people are just more 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:14.360 open to speaking about it. 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:16.880 Well, I think it's a combination of things. I mean, 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:20.080 people have been doing this since long ago. Yeah, like 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.800 micro dosing. Francis Creek, the man who discovered the double 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:27.199 helicks with from DNA, he was technically micro dosing an 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:28.600 LSD when he. 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.160 Figured out everything. Yeah, Oh I didn't know that. Yeah. 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.119 And the guys that made the Internet, they were also 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.159 micro dosing which it was in this great science, but 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.679 they used low levels of mushrooms or LSITY and they 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:42.080 came up with the Internet and how to connect it 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:45.280 and everything. So you have no idea how many people 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:48.320 and great scientists have tried this. 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:49.800 A lot of professionals. 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:53.199 It opens their mind. Yeah, like Silicon Valley people use 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:56.960 this a lot. So besides that we were using it 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:58.960 right now, I think there's more information. We have the 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:02.600 Internet and everything, and now it's easier to get. Like 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:06.000 with LSD and mushrooms, it's hard to get the micro 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.800 dose analyze. It would be one microgram with well a 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:12.600 little square of paper. You can't cut it into ten parts. 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:15.399 It's really hard. You need a chemist that sells you 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:19.919 the micro dose dose is. So now they're coming up 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.440 with this and it's more open and people can. 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:23.920 Find somebody that they can trust. 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:26.080 Actually, but they can sell it now with micro dos 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.920 And then there's all these studies and people are talking 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.720 about it and they're more open, and all these fears 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:36.280 from parents and church and even police officials and everything. 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.600 People are like, wait, this won't kill me. 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:39.479 You told them. 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:43.360 It's the same about marijuana and about mushrooms. 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:44.800 Alcohol. Back in the days. 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.440 Yeah, So I want to try it, and people are 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.000 more open to try it. And I think the most 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.520 important factor is we're living in a time where there's 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:58.320 an epidemic of loneliness, of feeling empty, of emptiness. Even 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.080