WEBVTT - Bugs, Twinkies and Ancient Foods

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas. Julie,

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<v Speaker 1>do you like to throw like dinner parties, put together

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<v Speaker 1>like appetizers with things you do you call yourself a foodie.

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<v Speaker 1>I am a foodie. I don't do a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>dinner parties anymore, per se, but I do like to

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<v Speaker 1>whip up a nice bal slamaic onion and feta or

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<v Speaker 1>goat cheese pizza. You known, just on the fly rosemary

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<v Speaker 1>pizza is always so good, like goat cheese pizza with

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<v Speaker 1>like grapes and rosemary. I love that grapes. Sorry, I

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm going to add now. So these these

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<v Speaker 1>are very you know, these are modern foods. These are

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we we pretty much have everything in the

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<v Speaker 1>world at our disposal. Yeah, I was about to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I I should um, I should point out that the

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<v Speaker 1>balslama onions I use are from a grocery store chain

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<v Speaker 1>that are frozen, which makes me being a foodie super

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<v Speaker 1>easy to your point. Well, but but even you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there even someone, even if you're not gonna even if

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<v Speaker 1>even if you can use raw materials, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>just so many at our disposal, so so modern cuisine

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<v Speaker 1>just encompasses everything. But have you ever attempted to cook

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<v Speaker 1>with ancient methods or to to prepare ancient recipes? Have

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<v Speaker 1>I churned my own butter? Have I created a little

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<v Speaker 1>hole in the ground in my backyard and and just

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<v Speaker 1>filled it full of hot coals and grow up some

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to pick in there? No? I haven't. Okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't think I think I have either. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a It is a fascinating prospect, the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>inviting people over or just you know, just just preparing

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<v Speaker 1>this nice meal, setting the table, and then it's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know like nuts and bugs, nuts and bugs and

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<v Speaker 1>nuts and bugs, which could be very very I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not setting this up like, oh this is gross

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<v Speaker 1>and the goat cheese pizza is great. The oat cheese

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<v Speaker 1>pizza is great, but but bugs and nuts are good too.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, are you saying this is the plus to

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<v Speaker 1>see an era dinner party? Yeah, it's like the Pleistocene

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<v Speaker 1>dinner party. We're kind of trying to imagine here. It

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<v Speaker 1>would would be a very different affair than than what

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<v Speaker 1>we're used to. But but but is we try and

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<v Speaker 1>understand what people ate in the past. It is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of challenging because that we don't always have the best

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<v Speaker 1>kept records of what people ate, especially when you get back,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously into prehistoric times. It's called prehistoric because

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<v Speaker 1>there's not really in a recorded history. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>depend on fossil records. Uh, you know, looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>actual teeth of our our ancestors and seeing what they

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<v Speaker 1>were capable of eating. Yeah, and when we looked at

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<v Speaker 1>neander faults, we actually are need it or tall as

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<v Speaker 1>they are called. We actually found that meat really wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>as present in their diet as people thought. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot more vegetable matter and so on and

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<v Speaker 1>so forth, And that meat as a main source of

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<v Speaker 1>proteins sort of a myth because it's very obvious that

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<v Speaker 1>bones would subsist better than vegetable matter, right, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you have to keep in mind catching something to

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<v Speaker 1>eat is kind of a challenging affair. Like if you

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<v Speaker 1>had to go catch an animal and eat it right now, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean not counting pets, not counting squirrels that are

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<v Speaker 1>so used to the presence of humans that you could

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<v Speaker 1>go and grab one with your hand. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in an in an actual prehistoric environment where everything is

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<v Speaker 1>fearful of everything else. It's it's a lot harder to

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<v Speaker 1>actually go out and catch that much meat, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>would be toast. I think most of us would be

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<v Speaker 1>toast if we had to go out and actually get

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<v Speaker 1>except for for Mark Zuckerberg of course. Yeah. But then

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<v Speaker 1>also speaking of toasting, I mean that's another thing too,

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<v Speaker 1>since since cooking, which we'll get to in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>in in in a few minutes, uh, is it can

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<v Speaker 1>be used as a means of preserving meat. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing too. It's like, say you're a prehistoric tribesman, you

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<v Speaker 1>bring down some sort of large animal, Well get eating

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<v Speaker 1>because you only have so much time before that that

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<v Speaker 1>meat is spoiled in a warm environment, right, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a salt flat nearby, right, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>at least preserve some of it if you know the

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<v Speaker 1>methods and the methods have been taught to you. If

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<v Speaker 1>if there's enough language at this point to communicate this, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there is the what was the movie about the kid

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<v Speaker 1>who who goes up into the wilderness to survive. Oh uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is John cracow Um book, right, if you based

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<v Speaker 1>off of that, I cannot remember. Into the woods or

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes yeah, into the wild wild, Like there's a scene

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<v Speaker 1>in that where he kills a large animal and he's

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<v Speaker 1>looking to try and you know, preserve the meat as

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<v Speaker 1>fast as possible, and it just ends up failing because

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a huge undertaking, especially if you as a

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<v Speaker 1>people have not developed the technology to do it yet. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's just try to let's do a quick timeline

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<v Speaker 1>if if, if, if people will allow us such an

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<v Speaker 1>indulgence of what we're looking at when we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>these kinds of foods um, before we became an agrarian culture. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking actually a much longer, like twenty plus years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You're really looking at food sources such as very basic water, ice, salt. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got salt, bed, handy fish, mushrooms, eggs, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so you probably creep up to a little nest and

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<v Speaker 1>grab some eggs, easy pickings, easy pickings, um, some grains,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course insects really important. This is called into mafaji. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>When you eat insects, it's a great source of protein. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're everywhere. They I mean they're they're just everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and and they're so easy to catch. Generally, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to fight for your life to grab, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a nice juicy grub to eat. You just gotta know

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<v Speaker 1>what to dick and right. And if you were in

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<v Speaker 1>the West, that probably sounds weird, but obviously in in

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<v Speaker 1>some Eastern cultures, this is you know, straight food for people.

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<v Speaker 1>It still exists. Yeah. Yeah, it's still traditional food in

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<v Speaker 1>many parts of Asia and Africa. And you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can go on the streets of Bangkok and get the

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<v Speaker 1>fried insects and supposedly it's delicious. Yeah, I didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to try it when I was there. There was all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of street food, but we didn't actually get to

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<v Speaker 1>see the the insect because I was reason to go back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's totally recently yea. Um. And then you've got the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of post agrarian fifteen thousand years ago or so,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got sheep, we cherries and almonds. Is afterward, domesticating animals.

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<v Speaker 1>We're grown we actually have early agriculture, so we're growing

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<v Speaker 1>up some plants we're gonna use. We've got animals that

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<v Speaker 1>we are controlling and they're not going anywhere, and we

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<v Speaker 1>can kill and eat them at our at our whim. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But still we're talking about sheep here, We're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about cows or pigs or anything else. And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's still very limited. And then cheap for the first

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<v Speaker 1>to get pulled in right there they are, Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dumb, sorry guys. But then all seven thousand

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<v Speaker 1>BC beer and wine, oh yes, yea fermentation of fruit

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<v Speaker 1>and hops. And then you start to see cattle domestication

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<v Speaker 1>um in a in a very real way. And then

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<v Speaker 1>in six thousand BC you've got maze tortillas, honey chickpeas,

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand BC milk yogurt, popcorn, which just you know

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<v Speaker 1>that was the big that was the big invention that year. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have little carts out there and they had

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<v Speaker 1>a little red and white striped buckets. Yeah yep. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then look at this, because this is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got popcorn thirty s dred BC, three thousand BC,

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<v Speaker 1>spices starting to be used, and then five hundred BC

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<v Speaker 1>skip forward sausage. And then this is interesting. Obviously this

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<v Speaker 1>is a highly selected list. There's a ton of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that we could go on forever and it would be

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<v Speaker 1>like reading the telephone book and would be highly unpleasant.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, the reason I wanted to point some of

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<v Speaker 1>these out is because as you go, uh, as you

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<v Speaker 1>as you come more towards the present, you see more

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<v Speaker 1>and more processing of food. So ninth century coffee and

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<v Speaker 1>cod because they go so well together, eleventh century corn

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<v Speaker 1>beef insider, fifteenth century jellies, jams and preserves, and then

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen sixty nine tofuon in America eighteen twenty four, A

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<v Speaker 1>one steak, sauce, eighteen seventy nine sacharin, and then we've

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<v Speaker 1>got Crisco in nineteen eleven, vegam nine ninety seven the

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<v Speaker 1>healthy element of processed foods uh spam. Yeah, So what

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<v Speaker 1>do we see? I mean, what we're seeing here is

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<v Speaker 1>just our ability to manipulate food more more century to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where it becomes increasingly more like this sci

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<v Speaker 1>Fi idea of like enjoy some food cubes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where it just comes out and it doesn't even look

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<v Speaker 1>at anything like uh, like a creature or a plant,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe never was a creature. No, no, But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's important to sort of talk about this just

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<v Speaker 1>in the context of me, how do we get from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, spearing insects and uh, trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not a tuber was edible or inedible to

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<v Speaker 1>to getting to this spam. Yeah, because there's a basic

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<v Speaker 1>like one like picture yourself in the woods like I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing. I've been doing this a little recently as

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<v Speaker 1>we've been looking to these food topics, and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I've been outside a little more in the last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Um uh and uh. And you know, like looking around

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<v Speaker 1>in a wilderness situation, especially here in Georgia, you look

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<v Speaker 1>around and you're like, wow, what if I just suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>had to survive right now? Just I you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just had a forage to see what I could. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would I would be dead, you know before the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day probably well, but you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a wanderer. And and that's the thing too.

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<v Speaker 1>As humans spread throughout um, through throughout the world and

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<v Speaker 1>and and found new homes, they had to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to find these things, and some some areas were more

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<v Speaker 1>conducive to it than others. But basically early humans, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking around, You're looking for berries, you're looking for nuts,

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking for fungus, you're looking for water sources, and

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is that all of these can be poisoned

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know what you're looking for. Some berries,

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<v Speaker 1>they maybe ones really red and it's really good to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>The other's red and will kill you, know, heartbeat, Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Fungus is obviously, some are gonna be delicious, some are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make you see the devil, and some are going

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<v Speaker 1>to kill you. Dead water sources, some are gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>clean and wonderful, some are going to clean you out. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what when it becomes really important, this whole

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<v Speaker 1>trial and error process and really communicating, you know, among

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<v Speaker 1>your tribe or or whatever. The situation is, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do not pick this type of mushroom. Bad things happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's happened to me. I survived it, or someone didn't

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<v Speaker 1>survive it. So you know, we take only man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you have to give me those measures, right, yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just save this for me. But so how do you

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<v Speaker 1>how do you do trial and error when you're dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with potentially lethal consequences? I mean especially it's like to say,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's just a thing where you get dysenterry.

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<v Speaker 1>Like today, dysenterry is is a lot more treatable, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the more modern Western civilizations. But but back then,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like dysentery could be uh mean, until very recently,

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<v Speaker 1>dysentery was a death sentence in many places, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is in many places. Yeah, well, I mean in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of whether or not something might be poisonous. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be some clues right off the bat. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you bring it up to your lips

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<v Speaker 1>as it began to sting, if you put in your mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>does your you know, do you go into antiploxic shock,

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<v Speaker 1>These sort of things that might be able to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of head you off from death before you know you

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<v Speaker 1>actually get there by consuming it. So there are some

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<v Speaker 1>clues that it would give you. But again the trying

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<v Speaker 1>to um orally tell this information is really important. And

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<v Speaker 1>then later as an agree in society with domestication dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes a lot easier. Oh, because dogs of course

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<v Speaker 1>will eat anything. You will eat anything you throw them

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<v Speaker 1>that say, hey, check that out. Maybe you have twenty

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<v Speaker 1>dogs and you have one to spare. Um It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>an easy way to figure out whether or not something

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<v Speaker 1>is is edible or inedible? Yeah, or well it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a dog could eat it and not die, so it

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<v Speaker 1>must be good for dinner. That's that's that's setting the

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<v Speaker 1>bar kind of low, I think, but you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>better than nothing. And and of course, uh, people end

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<v Speaker 1>up developing all these different myths and stories. You end

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<v Speaker 1>up with this oral history to share with with your people.

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<v Speaker 1>That lets you just you know, kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>memorization sheet of what you can eat and what you

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<v Speaker 1>can't um. But not unlike the memory palace. That's thinking

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<v Speaker 1>instead of just trying to remember, right, this red berry

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<v Speaker 1>will kill you and this one is pretty delicious. You

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<v Speaker 1>create a story about it, and then it's it will

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<v Speaker 1>sink in a lot more. That's right. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we teach our kids right now? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid things? We we give them scary like you

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<v Speaker 1>know Grimm's fairy tales, you know, watch out for the witch. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, it's it's all a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the same manner, I suppose, But there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. I mean, you are foraging, You're you're giving

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<v Speaker 1>your food scraps to the dogs, and then on top

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<v Speaker 1>of that, you're probably giving them something new that you're

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<v Speaker 1>interested in finding out whether or not you want to eat. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And all of this starts to evolve into, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this tide of food that becomes available to us and

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<v Speaker 1>that we cultivate. But the big big thing here obviously

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<v Speaker 1>is fire. Yeah, and it's it's really difficult to to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out when we first began using fire deliberately. You

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<v Speaker 1>look at some of these estimates and US and you

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<v Speaker 1>can some people say like Asia, other estimates are in

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<v Speaker 1>Africa even even further in the past. Um, And it

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of depends on which one you go with.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know, it's it's hard to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>exactly when then, you know, because obviously you're keeping a fire. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you might use the fire too, obviously to keep warm

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<v Speaker 1>to scare away animals. Um. Eventually the craft tools. But

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<v Speaker 1>at what point do you discover, Hey, if I take

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<v Speaker 1>this piece of meat and uh accidentally drop it in

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<v Speaker 1>the fire, then when it comes back out, it has

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<v Speaker 1>a different taste, it has a different consistency, right. Or

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<v Speaker 1>if I take this potato which was inedible, and I

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<v Speaker 1>cook it, then all of a sudden, I have something

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<v Speaker 1>that's really nutritious. Uh, that I can now eat. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, because that's the thing about fire, It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>just I mean it has several the way it changes

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<v Speaker 1>the property of food. Uh, it does so in several

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<v Speaker 1>different ways. I mean obviously, Um, if you cook meat thoroughly,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to worry as much about like parasites,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just just a small thing. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about getting sick as much from it. Um, then

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<v Speaker 1>the taste is going to be in many ways better.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also you're gonna be able to digest it easier.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna that's a huge part of that. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that the digestion part. Because we're talking about this, um

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit that you know, back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously there was no plumbing. So you would not want

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<v Speaker 1>to put yourself at risk for just fooling around with

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<v Speaker 1>a certain food to see whether or not you could

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<v Speaker 1>eat it, because you know, who wants to be doubled

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<v Speaker 1>over in a cave with diarrhea? Right? Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you will be shunned. Yeah, and there are not that

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<v Speaker 1>many caves. Why aren't you doing it in the cave? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Go outside? I know it's snowing, but um, it's uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's uh, it's it's like if we suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>had a magic sauce that you could pour over rocks

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<v Speaker 1>and make them edible. You know. It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. It's like being able to cook things

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly makes things that you could not eat before edible.

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<v Speaker 1>It it opens up the the culinary world world a

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<v Speaker 1>little larger, and in that way ensures your survival a

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<v Speaker 1>little more. Yeah, and yeah, there is no question that

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<v Speaker 1>this gave us the upper hand as a species. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the important thing to realize to about earlier. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these early societies, even monestor, that food is survival, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean as much as you know, especially in privileged

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<v Speaker 1>portions of the world, we get wrapped up in food

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<v Speaker 1>as enjoying and food as this recreation and this thing

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<v Speaker 1>that we love. But it's survival, I mean, obviously. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's an outrageous overstatement of the obvious. But like most

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<v Speaker 1>outrageous overstatements of the obvious, we do so because you

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<v Speaker 1>really have to drive from a point that we often overlook.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this, This was the key to so many

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<v Speaker 1>of the roots of modern cuisine was that we had

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out ways to survive. We had to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out ways to eat things that we couldn't eat previously

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<v Speaker 1>and eat things tomorrow that we would otherwise have to

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<v Speaker 1>eat to eat all of it today. Well yeah, even

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<v Speaker 1>until the Industrial Revolution, it was pretty much uh, touching

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<v Speaker 1>go when it turned when it came to getting the

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<v Speaker 1>right amount of food and protein and surviving right little kids.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, babies often would perish because they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>enough food or their parents didn't have enough food, or

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<v Speaker 1>obviously disease um was pretty rampant as well. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>until we stabilize enough for society, we really didn't take

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<v Speaker 1>it um as we do today. Is like, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna sit down and have myself a meal here,

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not it's in a restaurant, or I just

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<v Speaker 1>pull something out of my freezer and it happens to

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<v Speaker 1>be bossonic onions, which are delicious. So you have preservation

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<v Speaker 1>um of food. This is this is key. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>we've alluded to this earlier, like if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>heat a meat, if you if you cook it right,

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<v Speaker 1>it can last longer. Right. The classic example of this

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<v Speaker 1>is beef jerky. Uh. You know, some people may just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just think, oh, beef jerkey is delicious because

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<v Speaker 1>I can buy it a a truck truck stop and eat

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<v Speaker 1>it while I'm driving, you know. And and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and beef turkey can be really good if if you're

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<v Speaker 1>into that sort of thing. But it's an example of

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<v Speaker 1>meat that's preserved. I mean it's like, yeah, it's dried out,

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<v Speaker 1>it can last longer. It's not gonna rot and make

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<v Speaker 1>you sick. Um. And we see uh, several different food

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<v Speaker 1>preservation techniques that were essential early on, because especially when

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<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with harsh winters, you've got to I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's like the weather grasshopper in the ant, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the the ant stores is food away and is therefore

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<v Speaker 1>able to survive. The winner the grasshopper doesn't and dies

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<v Speaker 1>during the winter. So we had a learned to be

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<v Speaker 1>ants pretty early on, which is taking something delicious now

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<v Speaker 1>and save it for the winter, even if it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little disgusting come winter. Oh yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a really good example of that bag of disgusting nous. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to me, not to this culture. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of. Some of these are basically their survival foods.

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<v Speaker 1>There are things that and you see a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these in UM in more extreme environments such as UM

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<v Speaker 1>such as Greenland, where we have this thing called Kiddiak,

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<v Speaker 1>which we're gonna get to right after this quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, kak laid on me? Yeah, okay, so halves

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<v Speaker 1>in Greenland. All right, So every year these little birds,

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<v Speaker 1>baby birds, cute, very cute little guys. Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're all out, They're all just swarming all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place. This is a great time to eat little

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<v Speaker 1>birds because they're everywhere, right, and they have this great

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<v Speaker 1>way of catching them. They developed this it's like this

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<v Speaker 1>big sort of slingshot net, like like a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>like a giant butterfly net. And I was thinking, like

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Susie and net. It's very Sousian and they sling

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<v Speaker 1>that thing around. And if you've there's a the Discovery

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<v Speaker 1>BBC co production Human Planet has some excellent footage of

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<v Speaker 1>this in their episode about the Arctic. But they sling

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<v Speaker 1>this this net around and they catch these birds and

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<v Speaker 1>like in a day, they'll just catch hundreds of these

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<v Speaker 1>things and they'll they'll catch them and they'll snap their

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<v Speaker 1>little necks, put them in a bag, and then they'll

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<v Speaker 1>take them back back home. Now what are they doing

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<v Speaker 1>when they get home? Do they fry them up? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Because this is not food for now. This is because

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<v Speaker 1>now is a great what are you gonna yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't eat them. You can't eat them all now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's impossible and you are worrying about surviving later. But

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<v Speaker 1>you also can't just uh pile them in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a corner of your house, so they're gonna rot other

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<v Speaker 1>things they're getta eat there. They're not gonna be food

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<v Speaker 1>come winter. So they actually take a page for on

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<v Speaker 1>the the book of the Arctic Fox, which will we're

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<v Speaker 1>up pretty much all foxes will do this. This is

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<v Speaker 1>why they you know, they talk about like a fox

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<v Speaker 1>getting into a inhouse, so will just kill all the

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<v Speaker 1>chickens because the fox's ways to like, well, there's all

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<v Speaker 1>this food now, I'm gonna kill it all and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna bury it. I'm gonna hide it and then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>come back and eat it when it's nice and nasty

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<v Speaker 1>later on during the winter. So it's the same principle

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<v Speaker 1>um they but but instead of just bearing it under

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<v Speaker 1>a rock. They take the birds and they stuff them

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<v Speaker 1>again by the hundreds into a big seal skin and

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<v Speaker 1>then they they and then they seal it no pun intended,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they jump on it get all the air

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. They literally are jumping on this right

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<v Speaker 1>after and they've sown the top right yeah, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and they put I think it's like like seal fat

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<v Speaker 1>on it to help keep the seal, keep it sealed

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<v Speaker 1>and to keep flies away from it. Then they put

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<v Speaker 1>some big rocks over it to keep anything from digging

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<v Speaker 1>it up and and to get the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>air out of it. And then they leave it for months.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when they come back to it once food

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<v Speaker 1>is a little more scarce and they need to start

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<v Speaker 1>getting into the survival food. Uh. All these little birds

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<v Speaker 1>a fermented all right. Yeah, so it's they say that

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<v Speaker 1>the aromas like uh, like a really pungent cheese. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was it Richard Attinborough who like, huh okay,

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<v Speaker 1>totally different voices. Um, but I think I remember saying

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<v Speaker 1>that it's ready when when it stings the nostrils, which

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, well, wow, that that is something I want

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<v Speaker 1>to eat right there. Yeah, when when I was watching

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<v Speaker 1>this episode with my wife for the first time. We

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<v Speaker 1>were like, oh my goodness, there, you know, watching them

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<v Speaker 1>get these happen, We're like, please cook those birds, Please

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<v Speaker 1>cook those birds. And they don't. They eat it. They

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<v Speaker 1>just tear into them. And it's and it's a delicacy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to I don't really want to

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<v Speaker 1>focus too much. I'm like, oh, this is gross food,

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<v Speaker 1>because this this is what's gross to someone else's is

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<v Speaker 1>great to someone Yeah, and it's a delicacy to these two,

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<v Speaker 1>to these guys and uh, and it could easily be

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<v Speaker 1>a delicacy to us if we had developed a taste

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<v Speaker 1>for it. Um. So that being said, I do I

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<v Speaker 1>find it really interesting because I love a survival food

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of it, but I'm also really intrigued by its

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<v Speaker 1>kind of grossness and uh and what it really tells

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<v Speaker 1>us about food preservation, about how important it is. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a few other really cool examples of survival food

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<v Speaker 1>from U believe, Iceland and uh. Uh. Guy I know

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<v Speaker 1>by the name of Andy works for a gaming company

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<v Speaker 1>that's headquartered in Iceland, and he had had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to try several the so I asked him, I shot

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<v Speaker 1>him and he almost like, hey, what was the what

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<v Speaker 1>was some of the more interesting survival foods? Uh, that

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to try because in Iceland now you don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to eat these things, but they're part of the

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<v Speaker 1>culture and they're they're they're they're something you kind of celebrate.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that there is a there is a shark

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<v Speaker 1>called the it's a p shark and it's uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>fer minute. It's called a hack ral, So it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like the same, you know, the same principle. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's uh, it's he said, it's not that bad

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<v Speaker 1>if you you take it with a with a shot

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<v Speaker 1>of of of liquor. See, that's the whole point right there,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. Yeah, And then he said that he said

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<v Speaker 1>that the worst though, was a cold sour ram testical

0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:08.440
<v Speaker 1>loaf called the Springer and uh, he says it's worse

0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:11.440
<v Speaker 1>than it sounds, and it sounds terrible. Ram Testical looks.

0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:15.280
<v Speaker 1>He said the fish jerky was very good, and uh

0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:18.040
<v Speaker 1>he said that the pickled whale blubber was actually fairly

0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:20.520
<v Speaker 1>good too. So so some of these things sound kind

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<v Speaker 1>of kind of kind of gross, but apparently they're not

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<v Speaker 1>that bad. Some of them are sound kind of gross

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<v Speaker 1>in our kind of gross, at least in the Western Palette.

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<v Speaker 1>But but again these are harsh, harsh environments, harsh winters.

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<v Speaker 1>So you gotta take what you have, you got stored

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<v Speaker 1>away and uh and then be able to get it

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<v Speaker 1>out and eat it when times get rough. Well, And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was interesting. This is from Cooking and

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<v Speaker 1>Ancient Civilations by Civilizations by Kathy Kaufman, and she says, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>for thousands of years, the survival and power of a

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<v Speaker 1>tribe or country dependent on its stock and grain harvesting,

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<v Speaker 1>processing and storing greenstocks was of huge importance, and war

0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:59.240
<v Speaker 1>was declared only after harvest um. And one of the

0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:03.359
<v Speaker 1>earliest records of large scale food preserving was in ancient Egypt.

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<v Speaker 1>As we know, what was really important to have an

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:10.720
<v Speaker 1>adiquette adequate stock of dried grain um. And as you

0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.399
<v Speaker 1>know that the Nile would flood seasonally, so they have

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<v Speaker 1>these big silos where they would store it. And records

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<v Speaker 1>from show that the annual flooding of the Nile produced

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<v Speaker 1>surplaces of grain that were stored and kept to feed.

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<v Speaker 1>Builders of irrigation schemes and pyramid tombs, the Great Pyramid

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.920
<v Speaker 1>of Cheops that Giza was built around twenty BC by

0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 1>slaves fed with stores of grain and chickpeas, onions and garlic. Yeah,

0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:37.200
<v Speaker 1>it's I mean, it's the it's the ultimate in a way,

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 1>it's the ultimate survival food because it's it's grain. It

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 1>can it can be kept and then it can be

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<v Speaker 1>turned into bread or porridge or what have you later on. Um,

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and it becomes in early society, but really modern societies too,

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<v Speaker 1>like grain is power, grain is is survival and and

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:57.680
<v Speaker 1>and and bread is essential, especially in an urban environment.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it becomes almost a currency. Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's very telling that, you know, war would sort of

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<v Speaker 1>take a break during harvest because you know, why would

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you why would you, you know, disturb one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most plentiful, bountious times of food available to you, and

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:17.119
<v Speaker 1>you would be wiping out your civilization. Yeah. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>also there are there are different arguments of course about

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<v Speaker 1>like how war really got got started in human civilization,

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:25.600
<v Speaker 1>But there's there is the the argument that you really

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have war per se until we had reached the point,

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<v Speaker 1>as as an agin in culture where we could have

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<v Speaker 1>the silos of grain, where we could have where something

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:36.880
<v Speaker 1>was worth taking. Yeah, we had a surplus of essential

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.119
<v Speaker 1>materials in the form of grain. It's interesting to you,

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<v Speaker 1>just on a side note, that Costa Rica doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of army. And what I love about that

0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 1>is there their whole thing is, well, if you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>if we don't have something some sort of central government

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 1>that has you know, munitions and this power structure here,

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>then nobody really wants to take us over. Yeah. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to take over coast to Rea, I

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>guess the main it's like we really like uh, you

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:06.400
<v Speaker 1>know jungles. Yeah, you want to take over our sloths.

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 1>They're high maintenance. Yeah but no, Yeah, that's but that's

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>one really cool thing about Costa Rica for sure. Yeah.

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:15.719
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so you have to you know, you have

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>these things, like you said, You've got these stockpiles that

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden become very interesting to to other

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:24.880
<v Speaker 1>tribes or cultures to take over. Yeah. It's interesting thinking

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 1>about like grain is survival food, and grain is the

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.120
<v Speaker 1>thing you store away now for for food later. Um.

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel like in the office here and how stuff works,

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I think everybody kind of has like a survival food

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:37.320
<v Speaker 1>stored in their desks. Like today I managed to leave

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:39.400
<v Speaker 1>without bringing my lunch with me. So I've got I've

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 1>got a like noodle bowl in my desk, which is like,

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:44.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, a little plastic bowl with stuff that looks

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:46.200
<v Speaker 1>like dust in the bottom of it, and then you

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 1>add water and water. That's funny. I have that, and

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.199
<v Speaker 1>I have mac and cheese, and then I have some

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.880
<v Speaker 1>cocoa from when it was cold, cold for like four

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 1>days in the winter. Yeah, and I was cool. Yeah.

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 1>You people pulling out oatmeal packs too, Yes, yeah, that's

0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:01.639
<v Speaker 1>the that's a big thing throughout the day to not

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:06.959
<v Speaker 1>just for breakfast, not enough pickled fish year where is it? Um?

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, back to uh to food preservation for

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>just a moment. Other techniques include pickling, uh you know,

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 1>preserving it in a in a vinegar or you know,

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:20.400
<v Speaker 1>some sort of a harsh flood. Um. And and then

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:23.719
<v Speaker 1>eventually we get to the point where we can bottle

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 1>things and canned things, but that really comes much later. Um.

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>The technology for that actually during um Napoleonic times really

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>gets uh gets interesting. Right, This was for French troops, right,

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 1>in an effort to try to preserve food. Right, there

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.399
<v Speaker 1>was a man by the name of effort a P

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 1>P E R T. And uh, I just have to

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>share this bit from James Burke's Connections. James Burke is uh. Uh,

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.360
<v Speaker 1>He's covered a lot about the history of science, and

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>he's big on like comparing, like you know, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like uh these different little paths through technology that leads

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 1>from something um simple to something highly advanced and earth shattering. Um.

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>But he says here um Appert's idea was to preserve food.

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<v Speaker 1>The container for his first attempts was the champagne bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>He had handled these bottles often during his earlier years,

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<v Speaker 1>and as he said, the form of the champagne bottle

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 1>is most convenient. It is the handsomest as well as

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 1>this strongest, and is of the best shape for packing up.

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>So he placed the food. He placed the food to

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<v Speaker 1>be preserved in the bottles, and he sealed it with

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the cork. And uh, as they were in the wine

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 1>business by wire cages. So eventually we're, you know, we

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 1>we learned how to to do this little better with cans.

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 1>But I've actually seen footage of one of these bottles

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and it looks kind of gross because it's like ancient soup. Yeah,

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>why is that so un appetizing. I don't know, but

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 1>this guy was a big you know, he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the perfect way he was envisioning the future,

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>where like, anytime you wanted to have dinner and you

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't have anything preparable, you go under the wine cellar,

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 1>you get yourself a bottle of wine, a bottle of soup,

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 1>and uh you come up and uh have have something. Well, yeah, okay,

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>that's not bad. Bottle of wine, a bottle of soup.

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Speaker 1>That was a really bad billy. Sorry. Um. And then

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you have pasteurization, to which starts in late eighteen hundreds,

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>which again helps us to um, you know, pat rites,

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.239
<v Speaker 1>milk juices, so on and so forth, makes us a

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>much more portable society as well, and freeze drawing space missions,

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>right exactly. Yeah, even more techniques where we can take

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 1>the food of today and make it available for consumption

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>later on. Yeah, and then don't forget nitrates and cured meats,

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.719
<v Speaker 1>talking hot dogs. Oh yeah, so yeah, this is uh,

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>this kind of a smorgese board, if you will, a

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>buffet table of of some ancient up patter, a poopoo

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 1>platter of of ancient and not so ancient food techniques

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>about the evolution of few food and some of the

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>science of food, um, which we're going to get into

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>more detail in some upcoming episodes. Um. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>really fascinating, cause, like I said, the story of food

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>is the story of humans. It's the story of of

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>of science and technology and uh, and so it's kind

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>of neat to sort of go back and sort of

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>lay the groundwork and and briefly discuss some of the

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>trends in the evolution of food. Yeah, like how we

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>went from eating insects for basic survival to paying five

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>for a hamburger and you know one of the toniest

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>restaurants in New York City. Yeah, like hidding, isn't really

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>like a five hamburger? Yeah yeah, maybe Yeah. It's kind

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>of a gimmick at some place. Yeah yeah. And when

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>you actually order the hamburger, they have to like send

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>a guy out to get the materials for it. Yeah yeah,

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. All right, we've got some listeners, males. Yeah,

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 1>let's get out of food and let's get into Matt.

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>We uh recently did math music in Mayhem, another one

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>of our math related episodes, and we had a listener

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>by the name of Graham from Scotland, and he wrote

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>in and said is a pH de candidate in physics.

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<v Speaker 1>I was delighted to see a recent math related podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Whilst these were very interesting, I found your attitudes in

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the introduction disappointing for some reason, however, and then I'm

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>skipped just a bit for some reason. However, it is

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>acceptable to admit to being bad at maths, and I

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>believe that your comments serve only to reinforce that this

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 1>idea is acceptable. I don't expect everyone to have enthusiasm

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>for every topic, but I can't say I've ever heard

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 1>you confess to disliking a subject in the preface to

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 1>another podcast. Uh So I was so saddened by this

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>because I thought, oh my gosh, that's definitely not what

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 1>we're trying to put out there. I think, if anything,

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>we were sort of being apologetic in our our lack

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 1>of math leatness. Um. Yeah, yeah, so, Graham, I hope

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>that you understand that, um, that we absolutely worship at

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the at the math Altar. If anything, we wish we

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>were a lot better. But unfortunately there are a lot

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of people who, um, you know, with journalism degrees or

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>English degrees like ourselves that are in the same boat. Um,

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>and we certainly have dedicated time to math related subjects

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 1>because we think it's so interesting. Yeah, yeah, I guess.

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess we were sort of trying to disarm the

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>non math listeners in a way to say, like, hey,

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>don't run, don't run, We're not going to really get

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>heavy in the math because we're not really heavy math people.

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>But math is still really amazing and let's show you why. Yeah. Yeah, personally,

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a tragedy, the great tragedy of my life that

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have more of it, The greatest tragedy of

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 1>my life. Yeah. But where would you be if you've

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>been warning you'd be ruling this place by now? Oh yeah,

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I would just I would eat the other. But but anyway,

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I think still think Graham makes a valid comment here,

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm happy that we could. Yeah, and I'm happy

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>that we could. Uh, we could we could mention this

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>um in the podcast, sort of address this just in

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>case anyone else was wondering. It's like, why do they

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>not like math all that much? Now? We we we

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>like math, but we we do realize our our limitations

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and uh and his dirty Harry Setiman has got to

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>know his limitation. That's the truth. So thing you Graham

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>from Scotland. And since we just did a food podcast,

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I would love to recite oh to a Haggis, but

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know it by heart. Who's that by Robert Burns?

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>To please? Really? Oh? I guess I have heard of dogs?

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>All right? Well, here's another one related to math. This

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>is from listener Paul. Paul writes and it says, greetings,

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>just got done listening to math music and Mayhem. You

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Brian May's physics background and it reminded me that

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>another of my favorite bands is also very mathematical. Tool

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 1>One great example of this is the song later Alice,

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>which makes a lot of use of Fibonacci, the Fibonacci sequence.

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Here is a link to the video that explains it

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>needs and this one can actually just put this up

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>on Facebook. Of course it will be buried by the

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 1>time this comes. Well yeah, well you can look it up.

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Just look at tool in fibonacci and we have we

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>actually have an article on how stuff works about Fibonacci numbers.

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>If you're not really sure what they written about you,

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>it's quite low. Yes, I think it was written money

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>but so long ago that I've forgotten every most of

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the things about it. But yeah, this is the second

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>listener who's mentioned tool. I used to listen to an

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>awful lot and I never really tied into main connections

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>with most of the the the number stuff, but apparently

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>there's you know, now that I think about it, there

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 1>are a number of tracks that allude to equations, if

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you will, so all right, but we've received a lot

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>of good feedback from people based on that podcast with

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>other UM musicians that are also mathematicians or have some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of math or science background, so it was really interesting.

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